Review | 2016 Kia K900 | Almost There

In this review of the Kia K900 we improve our production to capture the good and bad of this Kia Luxury car including taking LeBrons car away. Regardless, can Kia convince BMW, Audi, Lexus and Mercedes fans to take this car seriously? We highlight what works here and why it won't be long until they nail the formula. Also we compare to the Hyundai Genesis G80.
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Index:
00:00 - 00:57 Intro
00:58 - 3:00 Exterior Impressions and LeBron Fail
3:00 - 7:54 In the Shoppe with Turbowski Underbody Overview
7:55 - 14:37 Driving Impressions
14:38 - 20:35 Interior Impressions
20:36 - 21:50 Final Thoughts
22:00 Outtakes

[@bassistdc]

So many reviewers talk about brand identity and prestige. That means nothing to me. I don't care about badges. Just make a product that appeals to me and satisfies my needs and I'll buy it.

[@georgev5766]

I used to think that way too and for the most part and I still do on lesser investments (other than a car). But... brand prestige and desirability go hand and hand. A car is a huge investment and my mother in law just bought an Elantra GT and she paid almost $32k fully loaded which now (2 years later) she’ll be lucky to get $10k for it. My father on the other hand bought a second hand Lexus for about the same price and that has depreciated about $4k over the last two years. So, brand prestige is a huge factor to consider.

[@pdlxwizard]

I have owned this car for 9 months. 2015 K900, V8, VIP package. $69K MSRP......I leased it with the model year-end clearance incentives for $47K. There is a term in business called price/performance ratio.....and for $47K there is NOTHING remotely in the same league as this car. KIA did nearly everything right with this car. The 425hp V8 is a silken hammer. The ferocity with which it accelerates this 4500 lb car forward is amazing and the 8 speed transmission shifts are undetectable it is so smooth. All who have ridden in it say "THIS is a Kia"......with amazement. That Lebron James drives this car is not surprising to me at all. I have had zero problems, defects, or recalls........unlike my previous Lexus LS460. Not sure if the base V6 model (new for 2016) has different suspension tuning vs my 2015 V8, but, the reviewers comments on ride quality and handling do not match up with my own experience. My business partner just bought an Audi A8 and the ride will rattle the fillings out of your teeth.....ridiculous. Allow me to vent a pet peeve to all manufacturers of full size luxury cars: WE WHO BUY FULL SIZE LUXURY CARS WANT LOTS OF ROOM, A SOFT RIDE, SOFT SEATS, AND A QUIET CABIN. WE COULD GIVE TWO SH!TS ABOUT HOW THE CAR PERFORMS IN A SLALOM, ON A SKIDPAD, OR RACE TRACK. WE DO NOT LIKE HARD RIDING, ULTRA LOW PROFILE TIRES THAT POP ON EVERY POTHOLE, AND WE CERTAINLY DO NOT LIKE BOY RACER, HARD A$$ SEATS WITH AGGRESSIVE BOLSTERS. IF WE WANT A SPORTS CAR, WE WILL BUY A SPORTS CAR. AFAIK Kia is the only company that provides such a car and it is the K900. The Lincoln Towncar was the only other full size, soft riding luxury car and it has been discontinued for some time. THANK YOU KIA. I can cruise in serenity all day in this car and emerge relaxed and refreshed. The seats are plush and soft, yet support my 6'4 250lb frame like a recliner. The Lexicon audio system is the same system used in Bentley's and Rolls Royce. I own a professional recording studio and Lexicon digital processors are among the best ever made. The Kia Lexicon audio system puts the Mark Levinson system in Lexus to shame. Is this car perfect?.....no. Is it better in some areas than a Lexus LS460L....yes. Similarly equipped a LS460L is $95K. Overall the Kia K900 is 90% as good as anything in the $90-100K price range..........for half the money. I hope they keep improving this car, because I will be driving them for a LONG time.

[@gregj4478]

Thanks for your comments, you make some great points.

[@newlive2091]

I want to buy this car bro

[@haroldjamison556]

Generation Kia in Bohemia just got one of these k900,I want it but I just leased my 6th.Kia a 2016 Optima Hybrid LAST YEAR ,Jamal is trying to see what he can do to get me out of my lease,I might have to finance the K900 wish me luck I WANT THIS CAR BAD...

[@RedQNZ]

I miss those old school super quiet super soft riding big sedans that as soon as you go on the highway people would go right to sleep like this 80s Caddy Ihad for a while. And I really wish they would bring back velour couch like seats what did they cancel those? I had a navy blue velour seats in my old Caddy and everyone loved it "plush" warm in winter cool in the summer I never heard anyone not like velour seats...I totally agree not every sedan has to be some boy racer 4 door sports car with noisy interious....feel every bump and hard seats

[@PtJudeRI]

I bought the V8 VIP version last month as well. Used with 22k for $29k. I really like the car, I can see where the V6 may have its issues, but Im super happy with my car. Im shocked at how quiet and smooth it is. Its a monster for long drives and highway commuting. For $29k, you show me a car that can match up...

[@Tripp55]

Please, please review the new, 2019, K900! Other journalists have already put out videos but I really want to hear your point of view after watching this.

[@robertlevy2162]

The qualities of your vids are straight savage keep it up

[@rohith96]

Your reviews have some of the greatest shots I've seen. Keep it up!

[@peter300pete]

watching your reviews feels like watching a drama movie. it's so enjoyable. keep up the good job...thanks

[@j1dobbs]

lol nice selection of music and i like the taking it to the shop part. Funny interactions. Subscribed.

[@Thenevisian]

keep the great reviews coming! !

[@apocalypznow]

Great review, very entertaining and informative.... as usual from you.

[@octoparrot36]

you should have a lot more subs! Your review content, quality and presentation are on point. Thanks for all your efforts.

[@racso5628]

Love your reviews! The format really works for me and I love your humor, sarcasm, and vocabulary. The Turnowski crash is due to the removal of the I. iTurbowski is far more reliable. 😄😂

[@gsxellence]

So what do you think will happen to the K900 (Kia doesn't market it much anymore) now that the Stinger is out and the Cadenaza (Also might I add not advertised) has been updated/further upmarket.

[@BikerJim74]

thanks for the excellent review.

[@farrgone]

Great review, Man! I truly enjoyed this. Nice punch lines :-D

[@deandrewolf5996]

I admire your objectivity and straight honesty without bias

[@JMotorCity]

I love a really solid, muscular rump.

[@HangingTree]

Love the review!

[@ModernDayMixtapes]

Would love to see you review an Infiniti Q50S, especially with Direct Adaptive Steer and the tech package

[@navarro543]

savage had you drove a car thath do the same wen going to a broken paybment?

[@edkelly145]

As stated before, I think your reviews are the best. Your knowledge of the K900 suspension (older) was why your reviews are so great! Thanks. Ed

[@JustinKelly]

I'd get a Genesis over this. Also did you get a response to the Elantra suspension compensation? (Or whatever)

[@savagegeese]

I got a response it was PR lingo that made zero sense!

[@JustinKelly]

savagegeese Oh... Well its too bad. I want to get something else, tired of the cars suspension/poor acceleration.

[@booniedavillier504]

Savage is the shit! Dude has presidential road blocks for him to review his cars... AWESOME!

[@ravipeiris4388]

Watching this in 2023, I would love to still see Scott join Jack as part of this channel 🎉. Regarding Kia, please improve your dealership and customer service experience.

[@yurieu5872]

If youre not buying their brand new shopping SUVs, they will not treat you well.

[@charleslewis564]

In the process of researching this particular year of k900. Thank you , the colors both interior and exterior, I am looking for. Leaning toward the v6 rather than v8. At my age, close to retirement, do not want to go wild with purchase price. And beside that, this is a rare car, not too many are on the road. Can you do an update?

[@scottieray]

This reminds me of the KIA Amanti my parents owned. It was just several degrees away from being a fully-formed product.

[@HemiLyfestyle]

yeah you right

[@pauldouglas1188]

Hi, I am considering purchasing a 2015/2016 Genesis G80, Cadenza, K900, or Grand Cherokee. I was just wondering whether you felt that keeping the K900 for 7+ years is something feasible. (Considering depreciation, the ride of the car, overall sales, mechanic costs, and anything else relevant) Great reviews, btw. Lack back, but very detailed.

[@BigChungusthe3rd]

Paul Douglas good question!

[@tbvjqor123]

So what did u get?

[@timothycc711]

Well I just purchased a 2015 Kia K900 non VIP V8 version used for $15900.00. The V8 is powerful and the interior is wonderful. I do wish the chassis soaked up road imperfections but I believe the V8 chassis tuning is better in that regard then the V6. With just 52000 miles I'll get something that Ze Germans can never provide...reliability! I mean if you thought the car was a good value before for $64K what about at $16K?

[@hoppysport2872]

Have you experienced any carbon build-up on the valves from the GDI direct-injected engine?

[@timothycc711]

@@hoppysport2872 No. I get 21mph in town. I am a spirited driver though. I heard if. you dont get on the engine and drive conservatively it builds up.

[@EchoSigma6]

Well, your insight of entering the luxury market by being value added and vanilla bland boring was correct. KIA has discontinued this model and they now have the Stinger. Can you please send me the winning Powerball numbers?

[@spencer2230]

weird question, where did u get that coat you are wearing in the shoppe ?

[@savagegeese]

Hugo Boss.

[@jaredshelton4718]

I just test drove one of these the other day. Super quiet, super smooth, and that V8. Omg that V8, just a wonderful car. I want one so bad.

[@mercedesbenzs600bash]

How was the ride quality over bumpy roads????

[@jaredshelton4718]

@@mercedesbenzs600bash A little choppy on broken pavement but overall veryyy smooth.

[@mercedesbenzs600bash]

@@jaredshelton4718 Much appreciated...

[@waynerm002]

Beautifully done as usual. The K900, in my opinion could have been better but I believe the audience for this car in Korea wasn't the sporty crowd, so we end up getting what the Koreans feel we would want. With the new German talent Hyundai/KIA has now, I hope they improve the next generation a lot more. Sorento and Optima are vastly improved, the new Cadenza has been released in Korea and that looks nice. Interested to see how it is when it gets here.

[@savagegeese]

Yes Cadenza could be cool. Hoping as you said new influence will help.

[@ravipeiris4388]

Not just what the Koreans want, but the rest of the world.

[@mightyiggy]

Are you going to review a Kia Cadenza?

[@RCMarty]

Looks awesome man, the focus was not too sharp nor too soft. The drone shots are on point and I love your rolling shots. The beauty shots are beautiful *pun intended* Big thumbs up brother, great looking review !!! You asked me to watch the clip to give my opinion, so here's just a couple of nit picks : Not a big fan of the shot @1:25 from a distance as the rest of the scenery takes your eyes off the car in the middle of the screen. At around the @2:25 mark the rolling shot is kinda jittery but it's just nit picking. It may have been caused during rendering.

[@savagegeese]

Good eye. 1:25 was junk I should have cut it. 2:25 was jerky, it was a move I tried on my 8 foot slider and it was sloppy. Thanks for reviewing it, trying to clean up mistakes from past videos. I appreciate the critical perspective!

[@RCMarty]

savagegeese You really did awesome work man, Kia on the other hand kinda fell short on that one. They need to up their game if they want to be taken seriously and want to play with the big boys.

[@msndotnet01]

please review chevorlet malibu 2016-2017

[@JuanHV2000]

hey...make a video with the last K 900

[@kwame76]

Are those Halogen HL? OMG at that point point..

[@chrisg2779]

Leased one of these back in 2015, Kia had about 14k into the lease. So the price was insane. It was cheaper to lease than any mainstream mid-sized sedan. The dealership experience was terrible. Most people at the Kia dealership didn’t even know what it was. But this car was very very nice. A true mile eater on the highway, super quiet, good engine, and everyone who got in it was shocked it was a Kia. These cars are everywhere in Korea (K9), surprised they even sold them here but it did expand the public’s perception of Kia. The Stinger helped as well. Nowadays a nice Kia isn’t such a shock. I’d imagine this car is super cheap to buy these days, and I’d recommend it if you enjoy a modern Lincoln Town Car experience.

[@makoshark69x96]

KIA DOESN'T HAVE A PRESTIGE PROBLEM IN KOREA.... BUT IN AMERICA, KIA IS NOT A LUXURY BRAND ! EVERYBODY WHO SAT IN ONE AT THE AUTO SHOW WAS SURPRISED AT HOW GOOD THE INTERIOR WAS ! KIA WOULD HAVE SOLD MORE IF THEY REMOVED THE KIA BADGES ! BUT THOSE KIA BADGES ARE EVERYWHERE ! THE WORST LOCATION IS RIGHT ON THE STEERING WHEEL ! SO AS THE DRIVER, YOU ARE CONSTANTLY REMINDED, THAT YOU ARE DRIVING A KIA ! THERE ARE BLANK LABELS ONLINE THAT WILL COVER THOSE KIA BADGES !

[@turnne]

This car is not for those that are want pickiness to the nth degree. Its designed to be a great value...not to be a top of the line with all the fine details

[@user-co6vj5gm6z]

How about a video about the new K900.

[@ClassicJunk88]

the decription of the suspension sounds just like my 1999 nissan altima haha

[@hasibc]

I am waiting for your 2019 kia k900 review.

[@darkspher4]

LOL love your tshirt and your review

[@METAx55]

Mr.Geese sleeps in a cuddle tunnel of Kias, Hyundais, and Mitsubishis every night.

[@savagegeese]

+vindapanda Get me out of the tunnel!

[@user-zr4ms4zn3s]

+savagegeese great job thanks a lot for the really extended reviews that you make...I got I question though...some of the other reviewers on youtube actually say that k900 is even better than the new genesis when it comes to interior quality just like all kias are better than all Hyundais...well being an owner of a hyundai I really don't know what to believe what is your opinion about this...which company makes the best quality products of the two...thank you again

[@savagegeese]

+Βασίλειος Πράππας They are so similar now it's almost identical. However the K900 has some things on interior that are better than Genesis G80. Headliner, leather some materials, switches, but the K900 is more a Equuis competitor. So its not totally apples to apples. I dont think the K900 is a huge difference than Genesis bottom line in terms of interior quality.

[@mercedesbenzs600bash]

The K900 or the G90 decisions decisions decisions,I'm leaning towards the G90,but I'll see....Don't know why the G90s don't have a PANORAMA sunroof,a lil weird...Really good review my man,hopefully one day you can do a comparison between the K900 and the G90.....

[@makoshark69x96]

WHAT KIND OF MAN WANTS A PANORAMIC ROOF ? ONLY GIRLY MEN LYK U WANT SOME NONSENSE LIKE THAT ! REAL MEN ONLY WANT A REGULAR SUNROOF !

[@matt2342]

I have a used one, 60k miles, now at 80k. No issues feels great and very quiet. I may not have purchased it at $60K. One last point, the oil filter is in the engine bay!

[@justindunn4641]

lol great video and nice shirt.

[@wasdwasdwwasd]

I think a special LeBron edition would help shift sales.

[@corpnupe85]

I appreciate you having a real mechanic look under the chassis of the vehicle in your videos.

[@zacharyf.568]

it seems like hyundai gets the new platform first. then kia gets it a few years later and just updates the styling with alot of the vehicles.

[@JRCxyz]

Zachary F. What other vehicles does this happen with?

[@BMWE90HQ]

I love the shirt lol.

[@AH-bm4ts]

The livery companies should buy up the used ones to replace their aging Town Car fleets but it looks like Chrysler 300 and Camry hybrids got that job.

[@MrRaymondo219]

Lol he looked like the old man from family guy when he did the acceleration test

[@towrnghrybear]

This car isn't "big" it only has a 119" wheel base. The turning radius I'm told by others is amazing for such a small car.

[@AuxKipchak]

To me this is almost the luxury equivalent of a sleeper. Want the luxury features but don't want the stigma that comes with the badge? Here you go. With boat anchor like depreciation resulting in $22k for a 30k mile car with VIP/V8 used they're pretty compelling.

[@timothycc711]

Lol I waited a year and purchased a non VIP model with V8 and 52000 miles for under $16k. Couldn't beat the luxury and performance at that price with anything on the market. Plus with Kia reliability i think i did well.😁

[@cartere9981]

@@timothycc711 thats a lot of car for the money especially when it was over 50 grand

[@kacekace3676]

I purchased a 2015 white on white v8 car. got it used for 32k. 26k miles. not to bad of a price for what I got. by 28xx the dash leather has warped and began coming off. the arm rest, and driver seat leather is wearing off. ac compressor Needs to be replaces. transmission clunky hard when downshifting. the problem could enter seem to be resolved. the did take care of me and let me trade it back in, and I leased a 2016 vip car. it's black with beige. I prefer the white. it's cool. let really hope this one doesn't fall apart.

[@kacekace3676]

Madeline Monahan yes it has been better. ten again I only have 1600 miles. the soft close door on the driver side stopped working. other than that it fine

[@WKaliberr]

I love Kia

[@jy787]

I guess that k900 is based on old genesis and equus body. New genesis and g90 body prabably much better because hyundai brought BMW M head cheif manager or something like that person.

[@christamblyn6780]

Arby's bathrooms are loud. I mostly hear groaning and poop splashing.

[@El_ReyJ]

I own a 2015 with the v8 it’s my favorite car I’ve ever owned

[@khunopie9159]

What was the geiger counter for? Detecting radiation from the N Korean nuke tests?

[@blackst331]

decibel meter..

[@savagegeese]

My Geiger counter is made in Korea and only detects Dennis Rodman.

[@shiinkun]

Just bought my K900 and the dealer was nice enough to include an anal thermometer. [citation needed] Cars these days and their standard features, whew

[@shadowfallenable]

ahahahahahha..so basically "I can fit 2 bodies in the trunk huh!!"!!!

[@ianjung1164]

I have 2016 v8. This is a great luxury car.

[@reaniegane]

Ian Jung Do you agree with the video that ride is a poor quality for a luxury car? Does it bother you? How does it compare to Equus?

[@guydivosta4075]

very nice to upload it in the middle of the night to wake all of us because of KZbin app notification on our phones :) go to sleep to your latina woman!

[@HemiLyfestyle]

Great review, kia kinda started to late with luxury lol

[@stuna101a]

Look at all that extra room under the hood for that V8.

[@aquaticko]

I'm really interested in Kia's and Hyundai's (i.e., Genesis') efforts in the flagship luxury segment going forward. Not just because I think they're improving over time--which seems to be the consensus, anyway--but because the conditions that allowed this kind of mediocrity to sell are gone. This generation of Korean luxury is the last one that has enormous tariffs to protect its only important market--South Korea. Hyundai/Kia have gotten away with dramatically overpricing their luxury cars in the domestic market despite the lack of any competency-based justification, and combine the disappearance of that moat of import taxation with the declining nationalism of Koreans which also helped boost sales of these vehicles, and I think, I hope, Hyundai/Kia are going to quickly realize that they have to do much better, much more interesting cars.

[@aquaticko]

On these luxury models, it can be tens of thousands more. The Kia K9, which is our K900, cost 85 million won in 2013 in South Korea, which is equivalent to about $80,000. A Hyundai Equus of the same year started around 65 million (~$60,000 won) and went up to over $100,000.

[@sprague49]

So I gather that it’s mainly in the suspension system where the K900 falls short of the G90. The Genesis irons out even the crappiest roads by all reports.

[@ThousanWhite]

I don't mind that the K900 looks too much like other luxury brands. I do mind that it looks too much like the cheaper Cadenza.

[@underratedcritic1983]

If Gilbert Grapes mom sat in that car, you would need to replace the suspension.

[@RazVlogs]

That shirt tho.. lol

[@justinjones1644]

It's a more expensive Azera! Maybe a few more bells and whistles. :-P But oddly, my 2012 3.3L makes as much power as this 3.8L? Hmmmm.

[@MrRaymondo219]

I think the engine is on the Atkinson cycle, not sure if I spelled that right

[@Systolic120mmHg]

Even though I admit that this is a real great looking luxurious car... the general public still do not associate KIA with luxury, so people won't look at your car the same way as a German luxury no matter what as long as that KIA logo is on it. KIA should do what most other manufacturers do.... have a separate luxury brand. Toyota > Lexus, Honda > Acura, Ford > Lincoln, VW > Audi, etc.... KIA simply cannot change public perception of a luxury car under the brand of KIA in North America...

[@BigChungusthe3rd]

Systolic120mmHg I don't care what other people think about my car... I just want the best car possible regardless of what badge its wearing

[@mastertry1935]

Gensis is from Hyundai, Kia however is coming out with new badge for premium models soon I heard

[@AllexxxRose]

the only bad thing about this car is why would i by one if can get the genesis which is way better and more attractive

[@507JoseBrown]

i agree, i think k900 is getting old

[@AllexxxRose]

+carmelo jose umm ju i mean is just a big kia rio while the genesis is very unique and 9 out of 10 will turn their heads to look at them

[@507JoseBrown]

Allexx Rose yesss ... genesis is much modern ,,,

[@Nitronerd]

This bro simply had his mind made up before he got in it. Look, critiquing a big luxury car as a sports car is ridiculous. I've driven the Kia and Hyundai luxury cars against the caddy, Audi, Lexus, BMW. The Korean luxury cars are awesome.

[@smonkey001]

One more good thing about this car. deal to bad sales, kia offer huge discount with it.

[@AlexPotvin]

They put Optimo h426s on that thing? Canadian Civic tires? Seriously? lol Regarding how poorly it drives: Well, that's because all the reviewers are testing it on smooth pavement at corporate events. You'd think people would see through the bullshit already.

[@jovianlitany]

My friend, you are the Ken Burns of grease and gasoline.

[@EchoSigma6]

Hey, that’s a Chef John line...

[@dnsuper]

arbys bathtoom stalls sound like torture chambers

[@naturesounds3957]

i would be a lexus ls460 2016 these cars depreciate

[@descriptiondescriptiondescript]

LOL at 3:05

[@andybub45]

Very nice car, but my grandfather got the smaller Cadenza instead, and it has lots more than the lexus we looked at. I'm starting to treat kia as a luxury brand. I dont know why people put V8s in sedans, they are overpowered.

[@RealtimeReviews613]

After owning a Hyundai Genesis sedan and seeing how unreliable their electronics (nav, heated cool seats etc) are i will never touch another kia hyundai product again! Not to mention the awful head office and service department

[@507JoseBrown]

and what car do you have know

[@edkelly145]

+DoubleD 613 I am on my 3rd Optima Sx. After 6 years of ownership, I have not had a single problem. My 2016 Optima SXL is even better then my 2013. I see a higher end Kia in my future.

[@thomasnew8606]

another worthless piece of info...what vehicle (if you were really an owner). to help if anyone is still looking here - I have a 2013 Hyundai Genesis sedan 5.0 RSpec with 96,000 miles. The vehicle looks basically new and drives like a BEAST!

[@navarro543]

People paid attention at the ride part,thath the real problem with this car.

[@geosh10]

Our local Arby's bathroom stalls aren't that quiet! Please, Please, do your research on "quiet bathroom stalls" before you speak about them! Otherwise, good review! P.S. Scott buy a new belt & some allergy medicine!

[@savagegeese]

Arbys around here are like 5 star hotel bathrooms, have soap and running water too. Scott was allergic to the K900.

[@quicksilver19tv]

@savagegeese your Arby's ref is on point here in California. Hilarious!

[@rmendoza720]

I really do hate hanging up on my mistress with low-quality buttons

[@hootieTV]

wow he looks a lot older without his hat

[@F_r_a_n_y]

"The rear end or the rump"

[@F_r_a_n_y]

I'm one of them.

[@MrTomengle]

You sounded like you really hated this car.

[@tommartin1223]

I love the reviews. hate the garage talk section. just no desire to hear snarky comments for however long it goes. seems like forever

[@savagegeese]

+tom martin Thats the beauty of being able to skip over segment, not for everyone.

[@BigChungusthe3rd]

savagegeese I love it

[@willgeorgiadis6472]

That's the best part ya twat

[@cartere9981]

Stick with your casual reviewer then who only talks about positives

[@WeKnowTheTruth2012]

Everytime i hear kia it makes me wanna kms

[@hyperwebbing]

The car sucks for the price. Even at $35K new ,zero miles ,these things would not fly off lots.

[@haroldjamison556]

IGOTTA HAVE THIS CAR

[@leaf4267]

It looks like this guy hates Kia. That's what I feel

[@savagegeese]

Actually really like most Kias

[@leaf4267]

No offence but my family has 3 Kia and none of them has a single pro since we bought the first one 2 years ago.

[@silentrefusal9911]

hidden leaf I don't get it. When and where did he say he hates Kia? He just gave his honest opinion and told exactly what he felt inside and outside the car. I really don't see anything hateful related to Kia or Korean engineering

[@UnsyNZ]

Meh, the front looks like an ordinary family sedan

[@Liquid_Cooled]

When Kia/Hyundia develop their own identity then I'd consider it (not really). I just can't see myself getting a Korean car.

[@ssr1680]

ITS better than Acura RLX

[@a7i20ci7y]

God, I love hanging up on my mistress.

[@MistrMcGill]

prive-acy...fill-tree...cam-bridge...yall are weirdos lol

[@DarkRendition]

Sounds like a Russian submarine.