2019 Kia Forte Review | Bait and Switch

[@Madman6505]

This is the best car review channel on youtube. I watch it even for cars I don't give a crap about.

[@ABeans07]

Me as well.

[@ChoPi-Eww]

If you like SG, support on Patreon :)

[@homeofthemad3044]

Try Regular Car Reviews, he is pals with savagegeese, they reviewed this car together.

[@sterbprepper4798]

I agree. He does get opinionated at times but no where as near as that redline reviews guy

[@NoName-tz5ji]

His reviews have made me interested in cars I normally would of overlooked

[@monkster9]

"You can drive this car without feeling like a piece of shit." Cracks me up every time.

[@johnbeckham1483]

He has a way with words that get the point across in a sincere way indeed!

[@123andme]

I know what he means... 🤨

[@EdgyNumber1]

This to me, from a mechanic's standpoint is a no nonsense car. Pressed steel TCA's. Easy and cheap to replace. Macpherson struts. Easy and cheap to replace. Rear shocks. Easy and cheap to replace. Handbrake cable. Easy to replace. Port injection. No gunky sticky valves. I see cars for what they are and can tell whether I'm getting ripped off. This looks like a Lego car in terms of stripping it down and replacing serviceable parts etc. I like this. Tip: As with all cars made in warm dry places, get it Crown rust proofed. $500 and it'll last forever. This car gets a thumbs up from me.

[@thundergato84]

Would this car be okay for a first time buyer? I like what this car offers, and the dealership is giving it to me for $15,500.

[@EdgyNumber1]

@@thundergato84 YES. ☺ 👍

[@colt2419]

@@EdgyNumber1 I am debating between getting a hyundai elantra/sonata or the kia forte. The Kia I can get for 14-15k, and the Elantra, which has debatable looks, at 12.5-13k. Kia comes with standard warranties. Hyundai comes with lifetime engine warranty. I am literally looking for the best car sub 15k with warranty. I can work on my own stuff, but a warranty that provides complimentary engine replacements or a 120 month powertrain like kia is always nice. I currently drive a mk4 jetta and all the little things that go wrong with german cars are showing up. I don't plan on attempting to rebuild the manual trans in it when it either needs new clutches or grenades itself, and I should be getting an insurance settlement from an old wreck soon, so dealership time I guess.

[@macaron3141592653]

My complaint is limited to how wimpy the engine is, but apart from that, I love what this car is

[@kenhoward3512]

@@colt2419 Don't put TOO much faith in a super-long warranty from the manufacturer. When it comes to warranty issues, it's the independent dealer, who will likely say anything (including baselessly blaming you for the problem) to avoid doing warranty work - not the manufacturer - whom you'll have to deal with. In my experiences with new cars, between many different brands and dealers, that has been the case, consistently.

[@COYGunners]

This is THE BEST car channel in the whole world. I love how you put the same effort reviewing a small economy car as you put in a 80k super sports car. I really love this channel,

[@bwxmoto]

“The people buying this don’t even know what the hell a torsion beam is”. XD

[@wendellbanks6243]

I kind of disagree. Older people without much money are going to shop this. And this is the information age; anyone who wants to be informed can be. There is also a ton of videos on the Elantra Sport that praise the independent rear.

[@dougn2350]

Not entirely true. I bought a 16 Elantra and I was fully aware it had a torsion beam rear suspension.

[@MuffinRacing]

Mr. Goose telling it like it be lol

[@jo23bulls]

No lies found

[@ArcadianGenesis]

I didn't know what that was until 2 weeks ago when I looked it up online, tbh.

[@foureyednotchstang]

as a mechanic I love torsion beam suspension. You can't beat it for simplicity. It has no struts to replace. It has two coil springs and two standard shocks witch can be replaced in under 30 minutes. Also there are very few moving parts. The torsion beam pivots on just two big bushings.

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

Yeah but god forbid those two mounts rust out. But I guess that’s true of many cars.

[@dougn2350]

Kia/Hyundai/Toyota are the reason GM and Ford gave up on small cars.

[@chocolatewheelchair]

toyota is unrelated

[@macaron3141592653]

No, its because ford and GM are fucking braindead and didn't use their comparably large number of resources to fix obvious downsides to their small cars, such as the DCT in the ford or the crappy engine in the cruze. The reviews on these cars were clear, and lost comparison tests to their Japanese and German rivals for many of the same reasons, and yet Ford doesn't give a shit. And when those lackluster cars failed to sell, they bailed.

[@Dzaal17]

Yup.

[@jamesmedina2062]

macaron3141592653 I agree except it seems that 2nd gen Cruze has a very nice engine without issues. The problems have been in the transmissions. I think Ford and Chevy's depreciate so badly that this also dissuades potential buyers like me

[@roaddog7542]

When not if gas prices go crazy again (think 80's or 2008 when it broke the $4 a gallon mark) GM and Ford are going to be crying for a bailout after bailing on the small affordable car market.

[@polaris911]

What you said at the end is so true. Watching Doug Demuro review $80,000 cars is tiring.

[@kabloosh699]

He's been looking at million dollar cars lately.

[@aaronbryan5095]

Just watching Doug Demuro's face is tiring

[@rightlanehog3151]

"Tiring" is a very kind word with which to describe D.D. .

[@PianoBlackTrimRep.]

Totally agree. I can't believe how many subs demuro has. I wonder what his age demographic is, it's gotta be preteen boys.

[@colinmaynard2879]

Don't think it's the value of the car that makes them tiring 🤔😃

[@JimboJason]

Great review! I agree these more mainstream vehicle reviews are personally more interesting to me because owning them is a reality. I'm sure its fun as a reviewer to make a video the expensive sports cars, but the awesome detailed review you do on the less than 40K vehicles are the ones I will personally sit down and really pay attention to. Thanks.

[@tlcode]

Ex-freekin-zactly.

[@warz3bra245]

Same

[@justwatchinvideos4559]

First time I've seen this channel "The trunk is bigger than my ex-wifes XXXXXXXXXX" ....subbed

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

William Elliott tossing a hotdog down a hallway

[@christianobrien4465]

Good car. Had a 2013 elantra... put 276,000mi on it in under three years as a courier and ZERO PROBLEMS. Always felt like I was in a better car than I paid for and that...is what it's about

[@mikezerker6925]

It’s refreshing to see a car like this in today’s car market... Having the safety, technology and overall usability and fuel efficiency at a good price point! Most cars I see these days seem way overpriced for what you get.

[@cosmin10b]

I'm watching this from Europe. To be honest this is the best car review I ever watched. The car is a daily driver, has everything you need in a car it's simple and cheap to run. Not everyone can afford expensive SUVs or wathever expensive crap manufacturers try to sell us. If you look for a cheap car that is reliable this one looks very good indeed.

[@didafm]

26 grand is not cheap. You can buy a Corolla for 3000-5000$

[@TravisTrilla]

Ya over 20 g's for a 4cyl don't seem like a good deal

[@RandomVideos-re9ux]

@@didafm wtf??!!! what are you even saying lol. corolla costs at least 20k and tops off at 28k. 5000 wouldn’t even buy you a good second hand car lol

[@didafm]

@@RandomVideos-re9ux yeah you can buy a 1t year old corollar for 2500$ bucks. And yes it will be reliable and cheap on gas. Why would you spend 25 grand on a entry level car that is comparable to a 15 year old corolla?

[@RandomVideos-re9ux]

@@didafm i don’t know what to say…….. I don’t think you have the facts right, and it’s pointless telling you all the reasons why the forte is a better package. I’d say go watch more reviews and you’ll get why. About the 2500$ one year old corolla, yea sure you can believe what you want to believe

[@vabch82]

After a ton of research on this car, I purchased a 2019 Kia Forte LXS and I couldn’t be happier. A lot of car for the money

[@thundergato84]

I'm really considering this car. It offers more than my 2017 Toyota Corolla. I'm opting for a 2019 Forte S.

[@maryanncoccaro6214]

I got a new Forte S and I love it!

[@Annie-bk9in]

I bought a 2019 Forte lx back in December and I love it 🥰

[@consciousawakening4799]

Any updates on the forte purchase?

[@T8Videography]

@@thundergato84 my GF has a 2018 corolla SE, i have a 2019 Forte LXS. Driving both of them back to back frequently, we'd both attest the forte is the better car

[@popeyevalls]

Dont we all just wish EVERYONE could be this straight forward and HONEST like this? I love this guy!

[@EchoSigma6]

Finally, a decent car for those living on average (or less) wages after kids, rent, Netflix, and the cell phone bill.

[@palebeachbum]

I considered this new 2019 Forte and the sister 2019 Hyundai Elantra when car shopping. I crossed off the Forte before even test driving because A) the IVT transmission is brand-new and not yet proven to be durable and B) I didn't want a hard riding car. I live in the city where the roads can be rough. So over to the Elantra I went. The more I looked at the 2019 Elantra, the less I liked the updated styling compared to the 2018. Plus, Hyundai was offering a $3k rebate on the 2018 versus $1,000 rebate for the 2019. I test drove the 2018 Elantra and fell in love. It looks really nice inside and out. It's comfortable. It drives well. It's quiet. The fuel economy is stellar. Been averaging right around 40mpg in mostly city driving. The reason I crossed off every other competitor from my list was for one or more of the following reasons: Priced thousands higher at real world prices (Japanese), much shorter warranties (all competitors), bad reliability track records (domestics), lack of mechanical simplicity and low running costs (i.e. turbo engines, CVTs, Direct Injection). The Elantra, and secondarily, the Forte, offer good reliability, low running costs, long warranties, and lower prices. Yet, they still offer lots of tech, handsome looks, and great build quality. I'm gentle with my vehicles, so we'll see how well it holds up with time.

[@moeanthony9308]

Well said and good research. So I guess you don't mind Torsion beam?

[@hisownfool1]

I got the 2018 Elantra Value Edition under similar circumstances.

[@palebeachbum]

@@moeanthony9308 So far I'm not minding the torsion beam at all. The ride quality is quite good. That's not to say it wouldn't ride even better with an independent rear setup, but with the torsion beam in the 2018 Elantra, it's very acceptable. In modern cars, the suspension tuning seems to play a bigger factor in ride quality than whether it's independent or torsion beam rear suspension. I've driven plenty of vehicles with independent suspension that don't ride any better than, or in some cases worse than, the 2018 Elantra. Independent vs. torsion beam rear setup should not be a deciding factor when car shopping. The feeling in the seat of your pants should be.

[@suesan5111]

Don't buy anything Korean, Car or Spying Samsung ELECTRONICS. Hyundai Kia sells $50k Genisis in their country to their own people for $10k MORE, with never honored warranty. They use 20yr old Second Generation Air bag sys. that Never deploy unless your car is struck perfectly strait head on or it drives over a speed bump in a parking lot, to kill or decapitate your under weight front seat child passenger. You don't want to what kind of deal Samsung made with the devil, to become no. 1. Samsung basically provides spying platform(with their phones, TVs, Refrigerators, tablet ), so that NSA and other Spy agencies can spy on you and your loved ones. See these news on airbag deaths an more m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYjTiZedfpWZf6c#searching m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqrSZpuBf5llftk

[@practicalguy973]

I got a 2018 Elantra on clearance to save more money and its great so far. I looked at the 2019 Forte when I was shopping around and I wont trust the CVT/IVT. The 2019 Elantra still has the MPI 2.0L engine and reliable 6 speed automatic with great fuel economy. That's the answer for people who dont want turbo, direct injection and CVT issues.

[@TheAdventureAuto]

This vehicle has an extreme appeal in a "Back to basics" kind of way. I like bells and whistles, but as explained in your Accent video, these are appealing in their own way.

[@nodak81]

The interior has way too many "bells and whistles" for my taste. Like he said in the video, they're trying to pack as much tech garbage in there as they can. Probably to appeal to retarded millennials.

[@weedmastersr]

@@nodak81 Yes, but at least the powertrain will be super reliable, compared to the turbocharged DI junk other manufacturers are putting out.

[@aaronbryan5095]

@@weedmastersr like the Cruz that Turbowski talked about and the Honda's 1.5 turbo.

[@aaronbryan5095]

More interested in the new Mazda 3 though. Mazda is showcasing the 3 at Tokyo Auto Salon with some extra accessories.

[@JHuffPhoto]

No turbo. Check. No DI. Check. CVT that successfully mimics a regular automatic transmission? You lost me there. If I want a CVT then I want it to act like a CVT and merely hold the revs while changing the ratio. Otherwise I may as well have the proven reliability of a conventional automatic. At least a manual is offered. Should prove to be good daily transportation if the CVT holds up.

[@burns1210]

I watch car reviews all the time, and they're all the same. But none of them put the car on a lift! Subscribed!

[@hammies.]

Appreciate your honesty, you seem professional but also like you're just a dude who likes cars. Most unique car reviewer I've seen, keep it up

[@GeekyFast]

My long, exhausting search for a well designed and value priced compact sedan is finally over. Thanks for shedding light on the Forte! I just brought a 2020 in FE trim with a 6 spd. 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@lancer717]

I’m getting the same one this weekend! How do you like it so far?

[@GeekyFast]

@@lancer717 It's been everything I expected for a "no nonsense" compact. All of the tech and safety features have performed quite well. Even the full coverage insurance is fairly affordable! I drive moderately in 30% city and 70% hwy. I see a consistent 30 mpg I feel like some upgraded wheels and a better shift knob would help dress it up a bit. I 100% reccomend it to someone who likes to get what they pay for.

[@lancer717]

James Jackson your reply is highly appreciated. Thank you

[@GeekyFast]

@@lancer717 My pleasure! I hope they continue to offer a sensible, low maintenance compact. Everyone is trending toward turbos and direct injection. 👎🏼

[@ziprock]

i never thought of kias much until my mom bought one 12 years ago. her spectra lasted almost ten years with just brakes, tires, and oil changes. last year it needed a muffler. im glad to see they are keeping it simple.

[@eperot]

I have to say, I now look to Kia as the savior of the low priced car. I've always been a German car guy but my girlfriend has a Forte 5 door and I am constantly impressed by what you get for your money. I don't even see the torsion beam rear as an issue having driven a Mk2 VW GTI for 18 years...they still handle just fine. At this point, Kia is delivering a product with amenities not present in my BMW 330, and although there's no way in hell I'd trade, I will say that whoever is looking for a reliable and inexpensive new car would be remiss if they didn't seriously consider these. Great review, as usual.

[@infiltr80r]

Hyundai/Kia are designed by a German in Germany though. TBH it also feels very (budget) German, just what I wanted. Doesn't have the expensive maintenance Germans have.

[@charger19691]

I have more faith in Kia than any other car brand. They actually care about what they design and build. While other car companies are resting on their cocky asses and screwing their loyal customer bases with substandard quality, Kia keeps pushing harder to build quality vehicles at decent prices.

[@Maxfli82]

Danny Rumbles agreed. Especially Honda. Their new designs and reliability have gone down so far that Kia actually beats them in those regards now and has more features for less. People still buy them for the name now I guess.

[@harveybirdman74]

I think Nissan has had the biggest fall in terms of quality. I never thought ten years ago I would be placing Kia above Nissan.

[@charger19691]

harveybirdman74 , Kia fought it's way to the top with hard work, improving design and listening to its customers.

[@1quickster]

I couldn't say it better myself. You get their basic vehicle it has more standard features than anything in its class.

[@mindspinn311]

I’m starting to consider KIA and Hyundai over Honda/Toyota/Mazda/Subaru and that’s never happened before.

[@Dzaal17]

Your review of this car directly impacted my decision to purchase it. Owned it for 6 months now, and I couldn't be happier. What can I say, I love gadgets! Thanks for the info and for all of your very honest and in depth reviews! You're my favorite car guy on KZbin hands down. The stiff ride quality furthers my illusion that I'm driving something a bit sportier than this actually is... XD I'm a bit phobic about the reliability of the CVT as well, but 10 year, 100k mile warranty! Can't beat that. Edit: I have the 2019 EX Launch Edition with all of the extra shit. WORTH IT! And, it's super orange. The color has grown on me considerably.

[@timothyhh]

As a turn signal enthusiast I can appreciate different approaches to their placement. But yeah, if ever there was a place you did NOT want turn signals it's pretty much right where they are on the Forte.

[@kiffstevenson2784]

I have to say, I love the 2.0 Atkinson Nu. I've got a '17 Elantra I plan to keep for about 46 years, and I've got a family of gibbons that I'm training to change the oil for me every 5,000 miles. I anticipate no problems. And let me tell you, there's no way I could get them ready to clean intake valves, so MPI is great too.

[@TheDevonParker]

Isn't the service interval 10,000 miles? The oil should still be amber in color at 5k.

[@TheDevonParker]

@@kiffstevenson2784 Depending on the vehicle oil changes are not cheap if you're using the correct product. A modern GTI for example winds up costing about $80 if you are using the correct oil in the vehicle. Use better oil, like Amsoil full synthetic and change the filter every time with a high quality unit, and stick to the suggested change intervals and your engine will likely last to 250,000+ miles with today's ICE cars. Changing oil earlier than the recommended interval doesn't provide any benefit if the oil you're taking out is still in spec, and it will add up in cost over time. If you tow or drive your vehicle hard a shorter change interval may be needed, but provides no benefit to the average driver. Regular maintenance has a larger effect over a vehicle's lifespan than early oil changes.

[@infiltr80r]

Also bought a '17 Elantra. But I'm in Asia so I got the heavily stripped out 1.6. I like it but Hyundai went too cheap - the rear seats don't even fold, never mind having a back-up camera. It's a bit sad for a mid-size sedan.

[@joskjj3625]

@@ady9910 Hyundai lambda engines are reliable to

[@koreymayo8884]

@@TheDevonParker I would never go 10k between oil changes as it will shorten the life of your engine!

[@MarioMateo]

When I got into SavageGeese, I wished he had reviewed the Kia Korte Koup 2011 I bought in December 2010. It's still my daily driver. I bought it at a time when (like he said at the end) I had to buy a car, to go to work, and do my daily tasks. And I love my car. It's been super dependable, I've put a lot of miles on it, and the only things that have gone wrong are silly stupid things, like the dome light bulbs. Replaced for $6 at O'Reilly Auto Parts. I've driven it on long trips, for years. Miami to Jupiter, to go surfing. I've driven it from Miami to CHarlotte, twice. It still runs great. Zero engine problems. True, it's not the most comfortable car. The Koup versions are even tighter spaced, but you get used to it. I also bought it because I loved the way it looked. Even though crushed when my girlfriend at the time was embarrassed by it, and made me feel bad about owning a Kia. I think it still looks good, and she was wrong. I didn't want to buy a Honda Civic like every other broke bro in Miami. I wanted something different, something special. They stopped making the Koup in 2015, I think. I'm never getting rid of it. I think the first gen Kia Koups are classics, no matter what anyone says. It's cool to see that they've evolved into a really cool, modern car today. In 2010, having cool and heated seats, separate climate controls, and an infotainment system like this for $26,000 was unheard of.

[@dchawk81]

Dude I had a 1977 Olds Cutlass eih no original clear coat remaining and a rear door that didn't open without a fight and groaning against the front door. She loved it because it had bench seats and was never embarrassed. Anyone...male or female...who tells me my car isn't good enough gets the same reply: "buy me what you think I should drive and I'll drive it." Usually shuts 'em up.

[@datastorageable]

Best video review of the Kia Forte on the internet. I watched your earlier short. I just bought this car yesterday (before seeing this video). Very happy I did. Bought this as a daily driver instead of using my E46 M3. Great work and I subscribed.

[@lofiguy8136]

How's the gas mileage you're getting average on a daily commute on your new car? Congrats on your new purchase.

[@datastorageable]

@@lofiguy8136 The gas is fantastic. It's insanely good, especially compared with my other car (BMW M3) that uses almost twice the money using 91 octane and then getting about half the distance to the tank. I have the IVT and the Kia posted numbers are very accurate, 7.7/5.9/6.9L/100 km and on a mostly highway trip, I can get better than the posted 5.9L/100. In my M3, I fill for $85 and can go about 380 kilometres while the Kia Forte with same exact trips and routes will go 700+ kilometres on $55.

[@skyhawk21]

Hey man, I got American version with cvt. Do you have cvt tranny? When in normal drive mode and when you set cruise control, does rpm jump 500-750 more higher than what it was set at when driving a specific speed using your foot on gas pedal? My car does. only in manual sport mode the Cruise control sets rpm at the same as driver has it using foot. So either a bug or glitch in computer logic programmed wrong with higher rpms which cause mpg loss.

[@datastorageable]

@@skyhawk21 Yes, I tested this and mine does the same thing. Not exactly sure why it does this.

[@jasont.9559]

Every car I've ever driven with an automatic does this. Why do people think that cruise control is supposed to provide better fuel economy? That is not it's function, it's simply there as a driver convenience and nothing else. It has always been the case that you get better mileage controlling the pedal yourself.

[@JakeDrives1]

I see what KIA did here... This is literally a car that'll run almost forever with very minimal maintenance.. it still has most of the style and features of those that won't go the distance. I think 26k is too high for one of these but the low 20's wouldn't be too painful. The styling looks great too, the location of the exterior turn signals that Hyundai/Kia seem to be doing now across the board are STUPID, they should've made the tail lights blink red. I'm very interested to see how the CVT holds up. It looks to work great. Seems like an effortless, cheerful little car with a different set of tires.

[@JAYJAY-ch4ik]

This car is dirt cheap. Buying of of this in Sg is around 90k usd. I could buy 3 of this in America lol.

[@bassace5143]

Definitely my favorite car review channel. Honest feedback, and you show the under body and suspensions. Thank you for making such good content.

[@lovelaine4475]

I don't know anything about cars, but I am a current 2010 Kia Forte owner (coming up on 190,000 miles!) looking into buying a new vehicle, and this was such an informative video! Thanks for putting this together and introducing me to some new terms!

[@jackwood8307]

I own a 2011 Kia Rio and have been very happy with it. A few minor issues, blinker switch and a ignition coil failed which was handled by the warranty. Get around 30 mpg combined driving. I would buy again for sure. Kia’s dont deserve the dissing they get just because they are Korean.

[@Karmy.]

We used to have a 2005 Kia Rio that we ended up taking to a junkyard at 97K miles due to the transmission failing in it among other issues

[@gregblack8550]

Koreans don’t deserve the dissing they get because of Kia!

[@mikezerker6925]

Chuck Iringtwice you must have forgotten to change the blinker fluid, that’s why the switch broke!

[@Jaiysful]

Must say, prob the only car review channel with PERFECTLY placed camera angle for the driving segments. It's not 100% potato shake cam aiming at the face of the driver with no angles of the car at all. Subbed

[@Jmh2989]

I just bought one exactly like this. Thankfully no rattle like you mentioned hearing in this one. I like the seats. And I have no idea what a torsion beam is.

[@timothyxxxpaul]

I just bought one last week and I find myself driving around just to drive. You cut the bs and talk real shit. Subbed.

[@philballphotography]

I have to say I am impressed with KIAs thought process. I have a 2014 Optima, 2.4 GDI, serviceability is great (compared to similar cars) and so often manufacturers (especially Japanese and Germans) forget that. I actually like my leather seats (Im sure they are different from the forte). My car doesnt have any weird rattles or squeaks and is VERY quiet on the road. The car has been reliable too, although there was a bearing issue they found. Mine hasnt suffered from it but they have given lifetime warranty for and even changed the software to detect bearing knock for us. Its an appliance, not a performance car for enthusiasts and as such works great, good gas-mileage, great features. Mine isnt a CVT, 6 speed auto, which shifts when I expect it to (take note Chrysler) but my biggest gripe is that the traction control is way too intrusive, hopefully they have fixed that. Driving in the wet often has me turning it off for quicker launches from a light, and turning it back on in case I hit puddles. Anyway, great review of the Forte, it matches up with the things I have noticed on my Optima. It definitely makes me think a stinger would be a great car. People do need affordable daily driver "appliance" cars and its so nice to have cooled seats and other similar features my car even has heated rear seats...

[@T8Videography]

On my 2019 kia forte, the traction control will actually let you slip tires for a second or two before it cuts power. It's been the best TCS I've ever felt

[@kia-thepowertosurprise5325]

Simplicity, reliability, value for money !!! 👌🏆👍 Kia Forte & Ceed & XCeed Hyunday Elantra & i30 & i30 Fastback

[@mneo212]

First time seeing your reviews. I've watched a lot of car reviews and your presentation is one of the best. Great job...got my sub!

[@freshtowels3917]

As a owner of a 2019 Forte I can say that it feels very expensive and there are no creaks or rattles. It is a solid car. This is my fourth Kia because Kia's are solid very well built cars. My 2019 Forte feels like a luxury car.

[@johnbeckham1483]

What a great testimonial! I am becoming "sold" on KIA Motors and in particular their Forte!

[@jasonapplebaum1288]

They are coming out with a forte gt. That has the 1.6t. With a independent rear suspension.

[@Praenuntium]

I'd be interested to see that. I have the Elantra Sport, would like to see how they compare.

[@mrk2ovtec]

@@Praenuntium are you in the Facebook elantra sport group? If not go on Facebook and look for elantra sport north america

[@fatboy19831]

It is not going to be worth the money they want for it. With the Fiesta and the Focus ST off the market, this is a good time for Kia.

[@Neanderthal75]

That's the dreaded 1.6 they were beta testing on us in the Veloster Turbo. It's tuned for economy and I don't know what Hyundai/Kia is doing, but they are definitely de-tuning from its full potential. The ECU is pulling on the timing and doesn't' accelerate like a turbo should. Just google "the wave veloster turbo" . Not sure why not just turbo-charge the 2.0L instead and forget about that 1.6 already, it's weak and it's becoming obsolete and slow with all the STs and GTIs and whatever budget rocket buckets out there or coming soon.

[@ather1276]

I have planned it over a year ago to buy it. I knew when Hyundai put a 1.6T in Elantra Kia is gona do the same

[@OOnti-dz4jd]

My daughter just got a new LXS and she absolutely loves it. She had an older 3 series bimmer.

[@32dsmitty]

Awesome review. I just purchased one. You are so right about smooth and rough pavement handling. I could do with out the smart tech apple and android. Basic aux bluetooth stereo is all they need. Would rather have better suspension. Over all its a really fun car to drive. Cant wait to see what the SS version will look like.

[@vanceshepherd1618]

Thanks for this. So many mechanic videos just scoff at Kia, without necessarily explaining why you shouldn't buy one. I just found myself car-less, and you turned me around with this straightforward, easy to follow overview. At least it looks like these cars aren't expensive to fix.

[@johns2473]

Do a review of the gt one

[@akillis7797]

Best car reviewer I have ever watched, thank you so much for this was looking at getting one of these in the FE manual. Trying to decide between this and the basic VW Jetta.

[@9shot]

I love the humor and always love watching a Mr.Geese Video

[@willcolip7975]

I bought this car in the 6 speed manual back when they were first released. After driving it for nearly a year I couldn’t agree more with this review. It’s not the perfect car, but it achieves exactly what it’s intended for at a great price. I would recommend this car for anyone that needs an efficient commuter with lots of space. I am 6’3” and 350lbs and I fit in all the seats and even the trunk very easily. I have driven both transmissions and I can confidently say that the CVT version accelerates significantly faster than the manual model. Great review!

[@johntyson]

Kia!? Nah, bro. I only watch car channels that tell me about the Mclaren 720s every other day and other hyper cars that I’ll likely never even see in person, let alone own or drive.

[@aryalsuresh1]

Doug Demuro. The channel which people watch only to comment on "Doug is the type of guy...".

[@ChoPi-Eww]

Yeah I want to know who this Uncle actually is, bcs he's more like my in-laws

[@johntyson]

Joshua Jacob While I appreciate your enthusiastic and wordy response. The sarcasm in my original post was so thick I didn’t feel it was necessary to label it “sarcasm.” Personally, I drive a Ford F-150 and my wife drives a Hyundai Sonata hybrid. Also, I hope every Mclaren 720s burns to the ground while Porker watches.

[@johntyson]

Joshua Jacob No worries, man. It’s hard to convey sarcasm in text. You’re my boy, Josh Jacob!

[@infiltr80r]

Let's not forget the average viewer is also 15 years old, won't own a car in 3-4 years. They're the main target audience.

[@BlazinDumpster]

I appreciate the thorough reviews you do for the more "basic", or affordable car segment. Thank you.

[@danielescobedo8460]

Hello Great review, I bought a Kia Forte 5 201 hp new in 2015, The only Problems I have had with it Is two sets of tire change's at thru 105,000 Miles. And I get 33mpg. Still going strong At 130,000 miles, So looks like I will be changing a set of Tires in about 150,000. It is the Manual Transmission.

[@warcrabcyber9908]

i am impressed by your thorough reviews , breaking down the engine , suspension, accessibility to change parts etc. this is what most car reviews nowadays are lacking. the reviewers complain and complain about irrelevant things like soft touch dashboards. hard touch plastics. then they get in the car and floor it, and expect every car in every segment to drive like a sports car. before i purchase a car, i would like to know i am not purchasing a beautiful money pit. i would take a mediocre interior if i know the car is reliable and will last me 6 years without issues.

[@Lunaticked]

Good thing Kia has a 10 year 100k warranty on the drivetrain. Even if the new cvt blows up at 60k miles, you get a new one for free.

[@zaks9919]

You think.... .,here in ontario they are still not replacing bad motors from 5 years ago., claiming incomplete records on oil changes etc ...do you think a competent mechanic can't tell whether a car has had required oil changes by just pulling the cam cover ...warranty here is not worth the paper it's printed on!!

[@LivingLife128]

@@zaks9919 i read on the internet so many folks saying KIA like to deny legit warranty issues by saying it was not service at a KIA dealer. this is one of the reason that keeps me from buying one. i expect a company to honor their warranty when its needed.

[@forexdragon]

Why this guy knows his auto mechanics. My first time watching. Awesome channel!

[@freshtowels3917]

I love everything about my 2019 kia Forte

[@Kyle-rl2ni]

Honestly most informative car review video I've ever watched

[@happy543210]

i remember when vinyl seats were the cheaper option and cloth seats were the premium option in cars. now, vinyl seats are a premium option because everyone pretends that it's real leather! what a world!!

[@Jack-eg1gw]

I have a 2020 Forte. I just turned 10,500 miles in a year and a half of ownership. ZERO rattles,squeaks or any type of noise. It’s a very quiet car and the stereo is not bad for a stock unit. It handles fine for everyday driving and the gas mileage is the icing on the cake,combined 33mpg. AWESOME. It’s only a year and a half old but no problems or issues. I paid $19,200 and I love it. It does what it supposed to do and I doesn’t break the bank. THIS REALLY ISN’T A BAD CAR!!!!!

[@ryanlittleton5615]

I'm not really the biggest Kia/Hyundai fan, I'll always be a Honda guy. But Kia really has a real winner here in my opinion. Great review as always BTW.

[@TheArrenes]

Awesome review. Tired of the typical walk around and interiors. You went to the crucial points of interests...motor, suspension, servicing and accessibility, technology etc. Loved it. Look forward to seeing more.

[@t.k.morris]

Have you tried the new Forte GT with 1.6L turbo and multi link rear suspension? And a manual option!

[@MrZacho7]

I have to say it because I own one, 2020 forte EX is 👌🏻 for my commuting needs. The torsion beam construction in the back for the suspension.. I do have to say can be very annoying in construction or bumpy roads, but it is very smooth otherwise, and what I expect in a car this size. I’m already near the 50K miles mark since Aug 2020 and I’ve no problems. I do regular maintenance and try to get certain maintenance done to keep everything clean and in tip top shape and it doesn’t disappoint. Definitely one I’ll be keeping for years even if I stop commuting because I personally think it’s a very comfortable car. Small things like the piano black plastic in a lot of areas I’ve always been annoyed with, but the styling (especially those rear LED running lights when they’re on) just make me happy with my purchase. The fact that I get comments on this car being good looking, especially for being a Kia, I think is a good thing because I know I didn’t pay an arm and a leg for it.

[@csdstudio78]

This cvt is miles ahead of nissan's... I thought Nissan had improved theirs until I saw your Maxima review where the input bearing started to whine from overheating... their tell tale sign of premature failure, on a brand new car.

[@consciousawakening4799]

Some of the Maximas 16-18 model years seem to have gotten higher reliability scores. However, their transmission history is skeptical like you elude to.

[@TheAliLeba]

This channel is definitely underrated. Some of the best car reviews I've seen. Also very funny the stuff he says sometimes.

[@orlandocolom]

That's actually the only CVT that I can tell I really like. I don't know if more than the new Toyota's with launch gear, but if this feels the same I'd go for it. I saw a 0-60 video of this car and it makes the same seconds as my 185hp Sonata.

[@tonywong8134]

Even at 1080P, your videos are so crispy. I don't even need to change my resolution to 4k.

[@techpappee]

The torsion beam rear, VW and Mazada have reverted back to torsion beam rear setups for their compact vehicles. The new Mazada 3 and Jetta have them now/again. I like the styling. I prefer it over the updated Elentra. As for the IVT, it is under warranty up to 10 years so there's that piece of mind. On reviews of high $ vehicles I agree. I like watching Yuri and Jacob (straight pipes) but they've been reviewing a lot of vehicles most can't afford lately. I don't bother watching 60K, 100K+ reviews of a vehicle I'll never own. I will but only if it has new tech or is a new vehicle introduced to the market. I understand doing it, especially if viewers ask for it. They're not usually for me is all.

[@radudeATL]

I'm commenting as I'm watching, and this is the first car review I've seen on KZbin that takes you under the car AND under the hood with a mechanic to discuss the mechanicals. Plus,, the reviewer is hilarious. I'm a HUGE fan and have subscribed. Love this content.

[@gsmack9636]

Damn this guy done a great job on the video. Great video love the details

[@WC3fanatic997]

Completely impartial, brutally honest, detailed and informative, fantastic cinematography, everything from track-heavy monsters to econo-shitboxes, top to bottom and everything in between . . . I still dont understand how you aren't more famous by now. after all these years. What even are people watching if not you?!

[@vr6gls]

This was a great review. I have actually been considering a Kia Forte as a daily driver, since my GTI is going to be turning into the race car. The Forte seems like great value for the dollar. I am suspicious of the CVT transmission though. Guess I will have to test drive the car to make a final judgment. Thanks for the informative review Savagegeese! 👍

[@shamblerockshamblerock6985]

I watch car reviews all the time. Just love to learn and see and compare. Small, large, fast, slow, cheap expensive....I enjoy cars. But I will say, you are probably the best overall reviewer I have ever watched... You speak in terms that I understand and can absorb 100%. For my family of 5 we have 6 cars...3 convertibles, 2 are roadsters, family sedan, econobox ...you get the picture..so I am always looking at what is available and how they compare to others in its class. I really appreciated your exceptional review here and will likely go through every other review you have done to date. Larry, thanks a million for your professional, candid, intelligent and no B.S. detailed review. I hope you get 100,00,000 hits on KZbin because right now, you are at the top of the review chain. Hoping car companies invite you to review their newest cars as a perk. Good luck and please don't stop with the reviews.

[@vapeking466]

Kia and Hyundai are doing big things and they have the best warranty in the auto industry to back it up!

[@STEVE33437]

This is one of the most interesting informative car videos I've seen and I've watched 1000's! Great job!

[@stephenhendricks103]

SG hit the bullseye when he mentioned the Forte in the context of "new drivers." It's a car packed with tech. And it's premium tech. A vehicle that parents can buy and send their kid off to school with the safety systems they feel good about. It's roomier than the competition. Susie or Billy can travel back and forth on holidays loaded with stuff or out with several friends. Likewise, for recent grads buying their own first car while drowning in student loan debt it's also affordable. And that 41 highway mpg will jump off the window sticker in the showroom. At the end of the day in the market segment KIA is aiming for a CVT (especially a good one) and torsion bar suspension won't be a deal breaker. Few buyers will even notice. KIA no longer advertises an MSRP thousands of dollars less than the competition. They're selling features and value for the price. But the fact remains that KIA dealers are likely to be more flexible in price negotiations than Honda or Toyota dealers. Getting a discount of a few thousand bucks isn't difficult, especially for upper level trims. And comparing feature for feature the Forte will likely come out ahead of a Corolla or a Civic for many customers. Toyota and Honda will sell many more Corollas and Civics but Kia buyers will feel they got a better deal for their money. Finally, KIA's game doesn't end with the Forte. Brand loyalty isn't what it used to be but selling a first car to a customer is still valuable to a manufacturer. If a first time owner is happy with a vehicle they're likely to take a serious look at the next step up the model ladder. When the time comes KIA will be ready with an Optima, a Sorento, or even a Stinger.

[@guppy360]

Stephen Hendricks lol sending their kids to college in a brand new car to wreck, what goofs.

[@stephenhendricks103]

@@guppy360 You may not be in that income category but parents spending $50K+ per year on college costs worry less about the cost of a new car for a kid.

[@dchawk81]

@@guppy360 Believe it or not, nowadays a lot of parents are taking the "new car will keep my kid safe in a wreck" approach instead of the "old car cheaper to replace if my kids wrecks" angle. They kinda value their kids a little more than the car these days. Especially since insurance is a thing. It doesn't work for all household budgets but it's happening a lot.

[@thundergato84]

I wonder if I can get a good price on a 2019 Kia Forte. This Kia offers more than the current Corolla. And it has Android Auto!

[@stephenhendricks103]

GIlbert Galvin: I"ve found KIA dealers more willing to make deals than most other brands (especially Toyota). But keep in mind that a Forte won't be discounted as heavily (in terms of $$$) as higher priced models. If you can get as much as 10-15% off MSRP, you're probably doing well. I've found the best strategy involves (a) researching exactly the trim level and options you want ahead of time; (b) set a price you're willing to pay and stick to it; (c) if you can, put down a substantial down payment or pay cash and have a strong credit rating; (d) cast as wide as possible a geographic net for multiple dealers and let each know that you're comparing prices; and (e) shop seriously toward the end of a month. You can usually get a slightly better deal because manufacturer "holdbacks" and other dealer benefits are based on total monthly sales. In addition, don't fall for a salesperson telling you he/she will "show you the invoice" to convince you that's a rock bottom price. It's a common scam but the invoice does not represent the "holdback" and other benefits a manufacturer provides a dealer based on total vehicle sales. Be careful when dealing with the "finance guy." You'll probably be forced to talk to him/her even if you're planning to write a check for the purchase price. And you'll probably be told that the fantastic KIA warranty the salesperson bragged about should be supplemented by an overpriced extended warranty.

[@roaddog7542]

Savagegeese and straightpipes are the best down to earth car review channels on KZbin.

[@thomasruggiero4828]

I have a Kia Forte and it’s awesome!

[@johnn8117]

Goose you make good comprehensive reviews. I hope KIA will make a competitive GT version that can go up against the next gen GTI. There should be an enjoyable sporty daily driver that the average goose can afford and still pay all the other bills that life brings. Also I know you have posted many videos and are constantly making new ones but it would be nice to see you respond to more of the viewers comments. Not necessarily this one. Thank you.

[@MrJmoering]

Thanks for this honest. I have a 2016 Kia Forte @100k miles it been a great car.

[@JoshuaAmoah]

Your videos are really at another level. Kudos.

[@Audiotecamusic]

you convinced me to buy it, im from mexico and the reviews in spanish are not as detailed as this one, i will go for this in january o febreary for the Forte2019 EX Aut is my option thanks for the video

[@bryanuchiha6166]

Omar Longoria nah Get a optima man Way better

[@Audiotecamusic]

@@bryanuchiha6166 actually Maybe true but my budged can afford only this segment(forte) maybe the next time can step foward yo the Next segment(óptima).

[@EduardoRodriguez-kb4gj]

Yo igual de Mexico, bro. Siempre si te fuiste por el forte? Yo igual me decidí por este aunque la versión básica porque no había para más 😅

[@Audiotecamusic]

@@EduardoRodriguez-kb4gj aún no me lo consiguen tu cres jaja según en dos semanas me lo tienen por el color es un poco difícil

[@EduardoRodriguez-kb4gj]

Omar Longoria que color? Yo lo quería negro o rojo y no tenían ninguno, no sé cuánto se hubieran tardado... así que opté por el blanco.. pero maldito asueto hará que tome más tiempo jajaja

[@oscarmercado4170]

Dude, we need more reviews like this. Subscribed

[@bigbean78]

I’ve had my eye on the Elantra for a while. I went to the Detroit auto show on Monday, and the Forte wowed me inside and out. Comparing it to the Elantra, i much prefer the the Forte. You can get a 6 speed manual as well, and it doesn’t skimp on the features when you do. I checked out every car Kia had, from the Rio to K900. All of them were impressive, as was their entire display and attitude. They are actually trying to win over buyers with their cars, whereas Ford and Chevy are giving up on them.

[@alexandergoldman]

no question...agree with SG that the amount of tech in the Korean siblings, Hyundai and Kia are really impressive. Also, for the infotainment, I've yet to experience ones that work better than Hyundai/Kia (had a '17 Santa Fe, loved it). Ergonomics are absolutely first class. Informative and entertaining vid

[@99900062]

I just bought a base 2019 KIA Forte. I don't have one issue with it. The negatives this guy is talking about, are wrong. He gets paid for doing this, and he has to find things (wrong). The interior is beautiful, comfy seats, everything is wonderful. 30 city, 40 hwy. 147hp. The price and quality beats every 2019 in it's class. Once you see it, you can't even call it a "compact." The trunk is huge. You are so proud of it, you can't wait to drive it, and love driving it.

[@dominickalvarez942]

You should review the 2020 Kia Forte GT 2. I only seen 1 good car review but I would like an insight with you because you like getting under the car and actually examining it. Plus your videos are the best out there and that’s a fact!

[@Affalterbach1967]

Only Patreons heard 5:26 , all ten of them.

[@stupid8911]

Bigger than her loving nature?

[@aaronbryan5095]

Give me spoilers 😂😂

[@nickcelmic6790]

His ex-wife's * is make-believe, just like Jesus Christ. I want to see some proof.

[@skip741x3]

Dude ,you are one of the few people I can listen to review a car i have Zero interest in, Yet still keep my attention and keep it interesting..Thats a Good sign bro! and a rare one! Your enthusiam for for All cars comes thru

[@tweker69]

Just bought mine today.. The rear end is a little stiff though. But that's why they make aftermarket parts. $18,500 @289.00 a month .

[@2004cyrus]

Tweek congrats on your new Kia!! Did you have to put money down for that payment?

[@tweker69]

@@2004cyrus only 1 grand

[@thundergato84]

I'm considering getting one. The dealership is offering it for $15,500 for the Forte LXS.

[@thundergato84]

Which trim level did you get?

[@tweker69]

@@thundergato84 ours is called the LSX

[@joetarrant99]

For a CVT, those shifts are pretty damn impressive no doubt. Solid review by Mr Goose here! I'm linking the new interior POV shots and camera angles.

[@RickTorn]

Kia packs more value into their cars than anyone. And feature the best warranty by far. Have loved my trouble -free Optimas, Sorento, and Stinger. Excellent fuel mileage too.

[@maryanncoccaro6214]

I love my new 2019 Kia Forte! 10-yr. 100,000 mile warranty, the best you'll find, 5-star safety rating, 30 miles to the gallon, 40 highway. Drives and handles as well(or better!) than any car Ive ever owned! And, it's a beautiful mother-of-pearl silver! For the price, it's loaded! Keep up the good work, KIA!

[@roberttarter3589]

i bought Kia Rio on your advise and I love it. I can afford most any vehicle out there and I get a chuckle when I average 40 MPG. Will probably sell my wifes Merc C300 with 90 k miles and buy a Forte for her to drive daily. This is a great site

[@Steve-wf3vv]

Oh C’mon car snobs. Modern compact cars have more features than many luxury cars had just 20 years ago. The Kia in this review had more features than a $40K Cadillac Deville did in the mid 90s. The direct injected turbo does affect longevity though.

[@FireAngelZero]

I purchased a 2015 Kia Forte used. In the used market this car is a very good value. I bought mine with 25k miles, PFI 1.8L engine. It does everything I need and honestly I'll keep the car until it dies. I still have a conventional 6-speed Auto with no "IVT" but honestly that cars been bulletproof. Outside of regular maintenance this car is solid for the price.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Kia makes a great first impression lol I would be curious to see some owners thoughts after a few months of owning it. But from what I've heard, people with the manual are really happy with it. They also get to enjoy a lot less complication and electronics coupled with an NA 4 cylinder. This just goes to show that turbos in small cars are pointless, this thing gets like 40 plus MPG

[@savagegeese]

I agree with all of that.

[@NotLikeUss]

Owned mine since 11/5/18. No issues at all so far. Loving everything about it & its very zippy!

[@shadwick2330]

I own the a 2017 forte5 with the 1.6t with dct and I still love it. I currently have about 40k miles no complaints. Do wish I had the updated interior but other than that has everything I need. Plus the turbocharged engine makes it fun daily. But interior is outdated and the exhaust is a bit quite but you can fix that yourself ;)

[@dae86ify]

I own a '16 Forte Koup SX and I still enjoy that car as my daily driver. Almost 30k, regular maintenance and no problems thus far. Styling won it for me over similarly priced vehicles. Looked at the ST Fiestas, Civics and Corolla before finally deciding on my 2nd Forte after my first one got trashed in an accident on the interstate. My 2011 Koup SX had upwards of 60k miles on it, only thing that needed replacement was a transmission temperature sensor around 45k I think. Will I ever buy another Kia? Probably not, but they are great cars for the money. The two experiences I had purchasing brand new vehicles from Kia was easy from start to finish and I was able to negotiate quite a bit on the sticker price.

[@orbitalair2103]

@@NotLikeUss Have the seats 'settled'? I remember the sportage had hard seats at first, but then it got my buttprint, haha. Kia, still hard plastic and hard seats. I would like camry seats, and tiny or no touch screen.

[@Vanguardkl]

I have a 2010 kia forte now at 200,000 km and running perfectly. You're correct in that is super easy to service and everything is in reach and accessible. No reason to change . Keyless entry push start good audio I've added Bluetooth and my phone does everything i need, plus auto headlights, cruise control etc etc.

[@shinbakihanma2749]

I love savage geese videos, especially the guy at the end, saying he hates savage geese😂🤣

[@YasumotoUS]

on a 90's version of yelp. or a mock-up of the site. either way, good content!

[@HelloWorld-uw5wj]

That savage geese I hate him I hate him

[@myvideosrockthehouse]

Keep at it man. I think you are well poised to be trending on most Demuro's fans in the short term. There is room for all good content right now and its refreshing to see your objectivity is paying off. Funniest things are anchored in truth. If i could buy stock in you i'd buy.

[@Sayua-chan]

Did you just roast 90% of car journalists? :D Now, that is savage

[@Natethegreat200c]

Mark, I know you won’t believe me, but a fully loaded dart gt doesn’t feel like it’s built to a price point. Nappa leather options, Alfa chassis, soft touch front , rear doors, and dash board. Stitched arm rest on all 4 doors, and arm rest. Very good interior and build quality or the segment. The trans is a Hyundai transmission as well.