After a long day at work staring at a screen, I get into a car and stare at a screen, then I go home and stare at a screen
@JJ-wi2uw7 ай бұрын
It's screens all the way down.
@xx1337 ай бұрын
Though I hope you’re staring a bit less at the screen while driving 😅
@GTC4cam7 ай бұрын
@@JJ-wi2uw I see what you did there. Well done.
@brandonobaza86107 ай бұрын
@@JJ-wi2uwNice pfp.
@socalguy977 ай бұрын
I hear ya. I’m burned out on screens. I considered this and had to pass. I went the Lexus route instead. Thankfully (and I’m not joking) some of their newest vehicles are outdated and have a more traditional feel of a car as opposed to BMW and others who now pride themselves on selling rolling iPads.
@rogue49987 ай бұрын
it's so thoughtful of bmw to keep the used market from collapsing
@Hawkborne6 ай бұрын
Their dedication to making sure vehicles depreciate as far from their MSRP as possible in a single year is admirable.
@ChrisPatrick-q6k5 ай бұрын
This will hold it's value better than the G30
@verde6295 ай бұрын
@@ChrisPatrick-q6kPrices will drop at the same rate lol. It always has
@kace28525 ай бұрын
Thank you bro, exactly!
@LOGICAL-JAYАй бұрын
Exactly..ill stick with my 2022 540i sport for now
@KrazC7 ай бұрын
Every time I see a modern BMW I scream "Look what they did to my boy! 😢"
@ghostridertom7 ай бұрын
You made my day with your comment ;-)
@faheemabbas39657 ай бұрын
BMW is dead to me. We’re never going back to peak automobile.
@michaelschneider-7 ай бұрын
.. Your GF reference is a bullseye! .. What happened BMW styling department? .. Yo BMW AG! .. Where is the wagon, estate or Kombi version? .. We get craps here in N. America. .. Okay, we'll keep our '23 MB E450 wagon. .. Cheers, Vail, Colorado P.S., Not every N. American got infected with the SUV flu. .. Hot Rod wagons rule!
@papa_pt7 ай бұрын
even worse than styling is actually driving one back to back with a classic. Almost completely soulless
@GooseVan7 ай бұрын
I no longer look at it, problem solved.
@bedlambikes7 ай бұрын
Automotive interior designers are heading towards the day when a 35,000 and a 150,000 dollar car literally have the same dashboards, and it’s embarrassing to watch.
@navsofour28926 ай бұрын
@japanwatchconnection Then they should lower the price to a Mazda or VW territory this interior looks as cheap and insipid as a Levis blue jeans under a Suit, it is not just about the screen..., long way to downgrade this cannot be called luxury anymore.
@smokesgtp4 ай бұрын
Race to the bottom...
@LOGICAL-JAYАй бұрын
Yep...I totally agree
@jerryburdick80517 ай бұрын
Looking at the dashboard used to be a beautiful thing. This is like walking into a Best Buy.
@UAkovalchuk7 ай бұрын
Best comment 😂
@vitreoushumor7 ай бұрын
It will age so poorly
@Rew1236 ай бұрын
Ok boomer
@CaptainFordo216 ай бұрын
@@Rew123you just have awful, awful taste, zoomer.
@bigguy4u9896 ай бұрын
@@Rew123go play on your ipad kid
@maxmustermann1947 ай бұрын
"It's like I'm picking up my phone and driving it around." Brilliant comparison, this is how I feel about most EVs and I'm not even 30 and very used to tech.
@echodelta21727 ай бұрын
regardless of whether you're used to tech or not, the human brain craves stimulation and engagement. Flat screens with no tactile feedback do not support this.
@darmokt7 ай бұрын
For all the crap BMW got for the i3's exterior styling, it doesn't drive like a smartphone. It helps that the curb weight was very light for an EV and lighter than a current Golf. New management came in and threw that all away in favor of 4000-5000lbs boats.
@maxmustermann1947 ай бұрын
@@echodelta2172 I just don't feel anything driving or being driven in an EV. No emotions. The tech is cool, but I don't get into the car to play angry birds with it's steering wheel.
@RAZGR1Z7 ай бұрын
@@maxmustermann194I don't even find the tech to be "cool". Nothing about it is really innovative. It's a "sidegrade" at best and downgrade at worst. Electric motors were used to power carts in the 1800's.
@dylanpage41067 ай бұрын
Manufacturers implement “tech” and “futuristic” design trying to appeal to younger people but it only applies to old people trying to feel young. Young people like the e46 and e92. Because they are naturally aspirated and simple.
@s4nder867 ай бұрын
"What do you think?" - "I don't know". Still the best review channel out there.
@herrbrahms7 ай бұрын
BMW: the only automaker that has worked harder than Honda has to piss off their old fans.
@goncalo337 ай бұрын
Why Honda? Edit: Mitsubishi would've made sense.
@faheemabbas39657 ай бұрын
@laszlopanaflex5613New Yorkers and NoHesi fans.
@ShaiyanHossain7 ай бұрын
honda is gong BACK to its simplisitc designs after years of people saying they looked weird and yall mfs still complain about it@@goncalo33
@Johnnygga7 ай бұрын
@laszlopanaflex5613damn very succinct 😂 so true. Nobody able to buy these new cars get angry about them for no reason at all I feel like this happens in every generation
@rickmartinez37817 ай бұрын
And VW.
@Swr887 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up loving cars in the 90s and 2000s, I lusted over BMWs. My parents bought me subscriptions to C and D and R&T and I went to a school with a level of wealth high enough that I got to ride in a lot of my friends’ parents’ BMWs so I read a lot about them. I can’t believe how far this company has fallen. They just don’t make lust worthy vehicles anymore. The formula is so simple but they seem to be pandering to the marketing department over the people who actually would buy these.
@JasonFlorida6 ай бұрын
Exactly, I owned so many Bmw's of the early to mid 2000s and really enjoyed the car, the ride, the experience. These have zero substance
@zwmack2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@LOGICAL-JAYАй бұрын
So true..I used to drive the 1995 840ci back in 1997 and I would of never guessed in a million years that they would produce such a tamed car like this..they're straying away from the ultimate driving machine that they once were to a computer on wheels 😅..
@thrinmon7 ай бұрын
Losing physical HVAC controls is such a crime. I don't understand why companies do it. There are some controls (HVAC, radio controls, seat controls, etc.) that should absolutely remain as physical switches. I shouldn't have to take my eyes off the road to choose where the air is blowing from, or sit through menu lag to do what could have been done instantly before.
@czrem18 күн бұрын
Cost cutting. It's cheaper to use a screen for everything than actual buttons and switches. The younger generation loves this garbage.
@stefndogg7 ай бұрын
Car designer opinion on the exterior styling- It is very obvious the designers had a challenge to make the styling work for both ICE and EV powertrains. The proportions (namely the very tall side profile) are a direct result of having to package for a battery pack. They tried to break it up with the black lower trim to hide a bit of the height.
@SilverScarletSpider7 ай бұрын
this bmw 5 series looks like it was designed for china to be a bmw knock off
@ccvr67 ай бұрын
It’s ugly
@bigprocrastinator7 ай бұрын
100% Worst part is they used black molding or paint at the bottom to make it seem less tall. No wonder also why they had to lengthen it
@AsAngelsFall2217 ай бұрын
That's just a long way of saying it looks like a Honda Accord.
@michaelw62777 ай бұрын
@@SilverScarletSpiderha, it’s true… it does look like a copy of a BMW
@dil69697 ай бұрын
It's bizarre seeing BMW make the same interior and UI design mistakes in 2024 that 25-35K plebian cars used to make 5 years ago. There's a sea of gloss-black plastic and a newfound reliance on touchscreens for most interior functions. I'm sure it's something any driver could get used to, but this over reliance on screens and overuse of gloss black is going to date this thing very quickly.
@norwegianblue20177 ай бұрын
BMW uses even more plastic under the hood.
@hecticphusion7 ай бұрын
that's what tends to happen when you decide to hire a design director that has barely any experience in the industry
@alexanderamaye-Obu7 ай бұрын
I agree with the goss black and plastic but i have an A8L 2019 and the touch screen for climate controls literally is just as fast as buttons just will take 1-2 days after you get it to get used to it its like getting a new galaxy
@TK-gd9td7 ай бұрын
Because of economies of scale it becomes cheaper to install these mass produced screens while analog parts become rarer supply thus more expensive for them to put in their cars and less profit for them.
@kristoffer30007 ай бұрын
@@norwegianblue2017 Plastics of today aren't the same as plastics of 30 years ago or cheap electronics, you can make plastics do pretty much anything you want them to
@dannoyes44937 ай бұрын
SavageGeese is the only channel that can make a video about a modern BMW that is both watchable and interesting. Well Done.
@DB-sd3cw7 ай бұрын
What's up with these comments just meat slobbering the channel? Has to be a bunch of AI generated bots
@dannoyes44937 ай бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw No, I'm very much alive. Although, I wonder about you.
@CaptainFordo216 ай бұрын
@@DB-sd3cwgod forbid we enjoy their work.
@ensureants2 ай бұрын
@@dannoyes4493you’re glazing. There’s others channels that do the same or better
@weltonreds7 ай бұрын
I like that Marc is quick to acknowledge that while the engineering tech is good it can't escape the fact that it's an imitation of what automotive engineering really is.
@azo50007 ай бұрын
Thank you BMW for putting art on a display in a car that is to be driven. That definitely won't be a distraction for anyone whatsoever, especially when driving.
@ShaiyanHossain7 ай бұрын
new bmw drivers dont care about driving
@JasonFlorida6 ай бұрын
The art should be the car... Not an app or add on
@sovsouth7 ай бұрын
This "glue lots of ipads to the dash" trend looks god fucking awful.
@terronalexis17 ай бұрын
A shame really.
@Digiphex7 ай бұрын
Has much to do with a destroyed German economy, self-destroyed really.
@TypeTuber7 ай бұрын
They figured out how to do it and save money compared to integrating things properly.
@henkondemand7 ай бұрын
I don't mind it since most of it is set it and forget it but I can see why it's too much.
@sovsouth7 ай бұрын
@henkondemand I mostly mean it looks tacky, I've never used a car like that so not sure how it is to live with or whatever.
@bernie63557 ай бұрын
I really miss gauges that had dials. Seemed to give the interior more style.
@s4nder867 ай бұрын
More difficult to read though, giant digital numbers is where it's at. Even my 2013 Civic has a nice digital speedometer, not some ancient looking sun dial.
@frankolamar7 ай бұрын
@@s4nder86 Not really though, most modern analogue gauges have a digital screen in the middle of both gauges... so you get best of both worlds, would prefer that over some amazon fire looking tablet on my dashboard.
@andrettransformer7 ай бұрын
@@s4nder86 Anyone driving a civic should not have an opinion on car design
@s4nder867 ай бұрын
@@andrettransformer Civics look better than BMWs nowadays, the one in the video included. I'd never buy a German money pit either way.
@Johnnygga7 ай бұрын
@@s4nder86absolute cope lmao
@AdminAbuse7 ай бұрын
Good to see that BMW fully commits to soulless husks of cars now
@michaelschneider-7 ай бұрын
AdminAbuse.. That's a cold, bold statement. .. Agreed. .. The 3 German manufacturers sure have succumbed to the practice of culling their cars into rolling iPads ...
@fredwilliams78937 ай бұрын
Lmao! Yep!
@tednugent11007 ай бұрын
really needed a laugh today, thank you
@JasonFlorida6 ай бұрын
With buck tooth grills like bugs bunny 🐰
@ChrisPatrick-q6k5 ай бұрын
Such BS
@Da__goat6 ай бұрын
My dad bought a 2015 528i, he still has it with more than 215,000 miles. He doesn't beat on the car and doesn't drive it like he's Max Verstappen, so all of the components have held up rather well. He was in the dealership waiting to get his car back as they were changing the oil and some filters and transmission fluid and he sat in the new 5 series. When he came home he told me that it felt like he was sitting inside of a NASA computer or working on a terminal docking station at Bear Stern back in the 80s, where the computers took up an entire room.
@smokesgtp7 ай бұрын
That four banger for 60k is nuts....
@michaelv68704 ай бұрын
As nuts as a Toyota 4 banger for 55.
@bassandtrebleclefАй бұрын
@@michaelv6870the 4 banger in the Camry is 55k??!!
@danmayberry11857 ай бұрын
An orthopedic shoe interior wrapped in recycled Lego.
@TheCarGuru7 ай бұрын
Comment of the day!
@iHaveTheDocuments7 ай бұрын
The exterior definitely looks like it was made with Legos. It's got no flow. Apparently they like this crap look in China so BMW uses it
@RAZGR1Z7 ай бұрын
recycled Mega Blocks.
@thewiseguy35294 ай бұрын
Tonka toy
@bassandtrebleclefАй бұрын
Love the description!
@boxer4engine7 ай бұрын
The E39 looking at this going…NEIN
@hassanger81287 ай бұрын
A broke boomer said so
@watchandjewelryloft47137 ай бұрын
The more BMW ventures away from it, the more I yearn for an E39.
@CaptainFordo216 ай бұрын
@@hassanger8128why are you so hell bent on shitting over anything from the past?
@1MTEK7 ай бұрын
Appreciate the Clive Owen reference. If I were head of BMW, my first edict would be "remember how to make a proper sports sedan, never abandon physical controls, piano black is fireable offense, and to you designers: enough of the weird sh*t!!"
@drewyager40207 ай бұрын
This wins
@On2wheels947 ай бұрын
sounds like Audi. But they screwed up Quattro
@albertogonzalez17467 ай бұрын
Sport sedans are for the 90s. We’ve moved on
@assaultlick21697 ай бұрын
@albertogonzalez1746 who is we? The c9mment sections are filled with condemnation, not praise. Beyond the subjective issues, which still see most people disapproving, their are a myriad of objective issues where they are regressing creating a product that is frustrating to use. Its crap, stop coping
@GoldenCroc7 ай бұрын
Well sure. But you would either make BMW go bankrupt with those decisions, or be removed as the head of BMW before it got there.
@ollyyung56737 ай бұрын
my e39 touring wagon has just been elevated to god status.
@charliesomoza59187 ай бұрын
70.000 $ for 4 cylinders, cutting cost interior and plastics everywhere?? What a joke!!
@m00nkinftw7 ай бұрын
Yet another modern car that falls towards the giant screen trend where most physical controls get replaced with an iPad slapped to the dashboard.... EDIT: Please don't read the comments below, it's pure cancer
@nafnaf07 ай бұрын
Yeah I hate that they got rid of the shifting lever too. To control the air rate you have to go into the menu. iDrive7 was definitely better
@antonykao7 ай бұрын
It's cheaper that's why
@Sparkpluggy7 ай бұрын
Still way better than the system in Mercedes, which forces you to operate the touchscreen or a touch sensor to change the radio station. In BMW, you can still use a scroll button on the steering wheel to do so.
@Toutvids7 ай бұрын
Its a terrible trend, no doubt.
@MichaelBertolino7 ай бұрын
BMW did it right. I'm so tired of people complaining about every implementation of these when some are done great
@lardiop7 ай бұрын
How this channel doesn't have over a million subs is beyond me. Top tier content.
@Angry_Gnome7 ай бұрын
They will eventually... But yeah, they should've been there already. Best automotive content on KZbin.
@TheHoosiers20087 ай бұрын
Because they don’t scream at you and drag out a drag race to 60 for 10 minutes.
@TheDad7777 ай бұрын
They’re not pretty enough. And normies don’t appreciate their honesty. Normies just want fluff.
@devongee17767 ай бұрын
Car reviews have always been slow growth. This is a passion project that you can make a living off of. There's only so many ways to review a car and LOTS of other people are doing it. These guys do great work. They'll get to where they deserve to be. But bear in mind that they so far haven't been afraid to deliver huge criticism and commentary on the flaws of vehicles. That hurts who will give cars to you. Other channels have more access because they don't talk down on the cars. Carwow comes to mind. Never any real negatives. And as a result, Mat Watson gets a lot of cars and a lot of eyes.
@BarbWaltersMusic7 ай бұрын
@@TheDad777 Doug is a weird looking goof
@L.J.R._7 ай бұрын
Man. . . .Mark's entire mood and demeanor at 9:40 perfectly encapsulates how I feel about the new 5 series.
@jamesrebbechi52477 ай бұрын
They’ve really ‘jumped the shark’ with this one.
@GrownandHealthy7 ай бұрын
Love the playlist Easter Eggs... Truly men of exceptional taste and comedic timing.
@benny17727 ай бұрын
Makes me want an older 5 series even more
@omnimoeish7 ай бұрын
Hard to find them these days.
@hassanger81287 ай бұрын
You can't afford both, anyway
@crimsonpirate17107 ай бұрын
Same here. I bought one
@TopoIl126 ай бұрын
F10 is a piece of art compared to this walking smartphone.
@stocksxbondage6 ай бұрын
2021 m550 for $45k is looking great right now
@chrisdimis917 ай бұрын
A couple days ago i walking on the pavement minding my own thing. Suddenly i saw am F10 parked next to it. And oh boy i stopped and looked at it. The lines the elegant design the design of the enterior. Pure class and presence. You're intimidated watching it. And what a better way to start your day than watching an E60 driving by at the same time admiring the F10. You start thinking what went wrong and BMW went from elegant and timeless designs to something that doesn't have cohesiveness. I cannot wrap my head around.
@ahamsandwhich7 ай бұрын
I have the same feelings. I have an F10 and I’m continually in love with the design and proportions. I get so sad when I park next to new BMWs. All the soul, class, and character has basically been wiped from then. I’m hanging on to my F10 until it explodes.
@chrisdimis917 ай бұрын
@@ahamsandwhich She's a keeper definitely. Hopefully i can buy an f10 in the near future.
@rickmartinez37817 ай бұрын
I think the E60 has stood up well. It actually looks better now than when first released. It was just too ahead of its time.
@chrisdimis917 ай бұрын
@@rickmartinez3781 It wasn't a bad design. It was super elegant and simple. The lines where clear and laid back. Chris Bangle made a statement. I admire the E60 since it came out. But everyone was saying that it was awful. And here we are more than a decade later and the Bangle era designs aged like fine wine. And everyone loves them. To me a design of a car must be pleasing to the eye. Clean lines that doesn't confuse your eyes. Watching a car more than 10 seconds without looking away.
@genericsomething7 ай бұрын
@@chrisdimis91Not everyone loves Bangle's designs. I still hate his designs, and I think he was the worst thing to happen to car design over the last half-century.
@panama-canada7 ай бұрын
Now it looks like a Camry. Nothing like the old Beamers.
@JasonFlorida6 ай бұрын
At least the Camry doesn't have a ridiculous and ugly front grill
@dannyl70355 ай бұрын
I saw new Honda accord 😁
@stevem23235 ай бұрын
@@JasonFlorida It does.
@filetofish76885 ай бұрын
@@JasonFloridaThe 2025 one does lol
@billshoe221917 ай бұрын
I agree with Mark, I would want the prior gen 5 series with an attractive exterior, physical climate controls inside, and a V8. Focusing so heavy on the tech ensures this will age horribly. Not to mention an exterior that looks awkward at best
@clee198210136 ай бұрын
I have G30, ever since F10 they have not really been Sports sedan of the olden days
@0x80807 ай бұрын
😋 still loving and maintaining my F10 550ix. $12k with 90k miles. At 129k miles. Just did my first major work. Replaced the front lower ball joints, control arms, thrust arms, wheel bearings. Love this car. Underrated for those who can turn a wrench.
@alangil407 ай бұрын
Likewise, I still have my E60 2010 535i 6-speed manual M-Sport with N54 power and a tune. Bought for half price in 2012 with 30k miles, now going on 150kiles and in amazing cosmetic shape. Interior still looks new. Not as good looking as the F10, but other than the rear, looks pretty good with M-sport treatment (think M5). It's just a tad bigger than the E39 I used to have and I still really enjoy the way it drives. Not numb like new 5 series cars. And yes, being able to turn a wrench is key.😮
@TypeTuber7 ай бұрын
Yay, a 2.0L Turbo, how inspiring. “We’ll just toss that in there and call it done”
@NomenClature-o8s7 ай бұрын
The government is literally forcing them to leave 6 and 8 cars behind…and soon, they will force an EV on you. Careful who you vote for.
@mro94666 ай бұрын
2.0L Turbo in a 3 series E30/E36 = 🤤 2.0L Turbo in 5000 lbs Tank = 🤢
@JasonFlorida6 ай бұрын
So gross 🤮🤢🤮🤮🤮
@montaver24557 ай бұрын
Feels like there was a lot of cost cutting going on with this car, particularly the interior materials
@hotdog92627 ай бұрын
you sat in it?
@TheGio777gio7 ай бұрын
And the design department
@jr18857 ай бұрын
I’m sure if the interior felt cheap they would’ve mentioned it.
@hugos24757 ай бұрын
@@hotdog9262I have. There is definitely extensive cost cutting.
@ajlee69337 ай бұрын
Interesting that you think this. I just watched CarWow new video comparing the 5, E, and A6. Matt mentioned that the 5 Series interior had the highest quality.
@mrd50247 ай бұрын
This car is dystopian. I do not want an iPad controlled car for babies.
@justkiddin19807 ай бұрын
It saves money or it extends profits…
@electrikoptik7 ай бұрын
You can thank papa Elon for this dumb trend.
@Digiphex7 ай бұрын
Exactly the word I was looking for. Depressing, dystopian and other d words.
@Blank007 ай бұрын
@@justkiddin1980if there was another badge, let’s say an Acura badge on this car, y’all will call it cost-cutting
@papa_pt7 ай бұрын
@@Blank00you just said the same thing.. cost cutting saves money and extends profits for the manufacturer. Hopefully it ruins their reputation too!
@legacyjeetkunedo4927 ай бұрын
BMW has lost its way.
@54tristin6 ай бұрын
I drove BMW for 30 years. Two years ago my lease on a 440 I’m with a standard transmission ended, and the bmw dealer had no cars to sell or lease. I bouGHT an Acura TLX S, and gave up on BMW when I saw the pig nosed, auto only, new 4 series. I no longer get into my car for a short vacation , I drive to my destination,feeling empty. Thank bmw for abandoning the people who made you.
@john.maynard7 ай бұрын
I used to get so excited about a new Bimmer. Now I’m just saddened. Great review, though.
@user-oy4cz9uo3n7 ай бұрын
Looks like a fancy Honda Accord on the outside LOL
@onepingonlyvasily7 ай бұрын
I was going to make the same comment.
@bigbufobufo7 ай бұрын
Nailed it
@THESLlCK7 ай бұрын
because all new cars are exceedingly chinese.
@paulbugoni28467 ай бұрын
Time to grab a cpo last gen 5 series. Excellent video as always.
@OdyTypeR7 ай бұрын
The time to grab a cpo last gen 5 series is 2003. Still an excellent video.
@georgeprotopapadakis47527 ай бұрын
LOL that is exactly what I did
@paulbugoni28467 ай бұрын
I’m looking at that also. B58 For The Win!@@georgeprotopapadakis4752
@josephclout36337 ай бұрын
I love the fact that at 08:58 the speedometer is blurred out but the speed is still displayed on the HUD
@salvete58477 ай бұрын
I love the new 5 series. Good looking, great quality and just overall my favorite car. Fair price as well. But thats my opinion. I just in love with this car :)
@BarbWaltersMusic7 ай бұрын
This thing is HUGE now, wow
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow7 ай бұрын
That's what my woman says, too.
@headcas6207 ай бұрын
It's even huger in person. They're starting to roll them out the leasees at the plant in spartanburg. I was like damn what is that?
@FRVulgar7 ай бұрын
Will never forget my old, e34 524 td, with leather interior, Victor steering wheel and Kenwood sound system. What a car it was. When I was young 😁 This? I would not even if I could.
@Kid_Ellipsis7 ай бұрын
You can still drive the old ones! What may surprise you is how flimsy and cheap they feel compared to these modern cars we mostly claim to hate. Still great fun though and I guess that’s the point.
@MrPink-7 ай бұрын
Once i saw this new 5 series i bought myself a G30 5 series..... Imo that classic bmw interior is peak design.
@allanmedrano3278Ай бұрын
Also…you know what’s lacking.. genuine excitement from either of you guys… that’s very telling! Great revirw
@RKO8597 ай бұрын
My fave M5 is from the late 90s to early 2000s. The E39 i believe. They look beautiful.
@nickscapellato82487 ай бұрын
The last generation 5 series was one of the last good looking BMWs.
@junyaiwase7 ай бұрын
It was so good looking, why did they do this😢😢😢
@justinadejobi50437 ай бұрын
Looking at the refresh for the last gen, I knew the next generation was going to be ugly. BMW tend to go yo-yo with their designs. One gen they look nice, the next gen you're scratching your head wondering if they got rid of all their designers and used new hires that wanted to make something that looks nothing like the previous team came up with.
@simonflower63566 ай бұрын
@@justinadejobi5043 I agree…the 2021 refresh made a good-looking car slightly uglier. With this new model, it’s just plain ugly.
@cpg80007 ай бұрын
HVAC controls are so small how the hell does one use them while driving on a bumpy road?
@supraJZA80s7 ай бұрын
@suspicionofdeceitthe heat from the car igniting on impact keeps you toasty
@Wilantonjakov7 ай бұрын
you have to buy a subscription service first.
@beaulunawolf11987 ай бұрын
I'm just glad there are some companies out there that still build sedans like this. All the American brands have basically given up and some of the Japanese have too. I'll never understand this love affair a lot of Americans have with crossovers and massive SUVs... which is ultimately why sedans and smaller cars are dying.
@gunesinan8147 ай бұрын
There is a significant corporate vehicle market in Europe, and sedans and wagons are the choice of body style for executives.
@THESLlCK7 ай бұрын
You’ve never seen a Lexus sedan?
@beaulunawolf11987 ай бұрын
@@THESLlCK I said "some" of the Japanese manufacturers.
@THESLlCK7 ай бұрын
@@beaulunawolf1198 the only japanese company not selling sedans is mitsubishi
@michaelschneider-7 ай бұрын
@@gunesinan814 .. Yo BMW N.America, .. Where is the 5-Series wagon? .. N. America gets craps.
@OnlineCitizenTV7 ай бұрын
I watched the whole thing at my breakfast earlier today. 2 boring dudes, they don’t talk how excited they are with the EV ranges, the screen features, etc But I wanted to know how it handles, the engine, the suspension, the ride quality. The 5 and the E series are the two of you!! Lost in the “marketing gimmicks” but still want to offer a quality ride. Love your boring car reviews! Keep it up.
@porschedoc16 ай бұрын
You don’t buy a luxury sedan to race on backroads, you drive it from the suburbs to the city and back. This ‘fourbanger’ is a very well designed four cylinder engine from a great enginebuilding brand. It is modern and refined. Six cylinders appeal to our nostalgie feelings , great sounding, but thirsty ( amazed at how frugal these modern BMW’s are). Whe have evolved from coal to cleaner energy….. so embrace the progress.
@Anamnesis7 ай бұрын
Remember when they had real designers working at BMW? Ooh yeah I memba...
@Toutvids7 ай бұрын
They went to Kia.
@faheemabbas39657 ай бұрын
They did go to HKG. The problem is that it doesn’t mean much for many people because their cars are fire risks. Genesis had a fire recall recently. Therefore, HKG cars don’t exist to me and BMW is dead.
@NomenClature-o8s7 ай бұрын
Like Mark Bangle?
@machina_spirit7 ай бұрын
$70k for a 4 popper 5 series… just wow
@hotdog92627 ай бұрын
its optioned out, base I6 is 65k
@ElegantPotatoes7 ай бұрын
@@hotdog9262what a scam
@THESLlCK7 ай бұрын
@@hotdog9262oh that smooths it all over then
@wangshuokevin7 ай бұрын
How about a 90K C63 4 popper? lol
@THESLlCK7 ай бұрын
@@wangshuokevin how about a 800hp hellcat for 80? Why the semantics??
@darklegion77807 ай бұрын
OLD IS GOLD
@faheemabbas39657 ай бұрын
And at this rate with how cars are becoming, forever will be unfortunately. We will never see another golden era in cars ever again.
@thereallotharmatthae7 ай бұрын
Will cling on to my F31 335d xDrive. Peak pre-big screen BMW. Normal dials. Buttons. Loving it. 100k miles on it, but will keep it forever.
@martinshelton12477 ай бұрын
New 5 series is excellent I love my 2024 BMW it’s fully luxurious vehicle much bigger. The previous 5 series was more like a compact vehicle but still nice. I love thé bigger size new 5 series. Good job BMW you done well on the new generation.
@norwegianblue20177 ай бұрын
I would much rather get the Cadillac CT5-V with the turbo 6 that starts at $51k.
@jkliao64867 ай бұрын
The problem with that is, like cadillac claimed, where the CT5V is aiming at competing with A4's, 3 series and c-classes, it acts like one. Despite its exterior dimension, the interior dimension is much smaller than your A6's 5 series and e-classes and more aligned with a class below. While you might be able to get away with claiming backseats are for noobs for the CT4's, where it's not usable on a daily basis and much much smaller than an A3 or similar car, you can't do the same when someone is shopping a luxury sedan like the 5 series when backseat room is definitely something they need.
@norwegianblue20177 ай бұрын
@@jkliao6486 The CT-5 is deliberately slotted in size to be in between the 3 and 5 series. People shopping a 3 series might appreciate the extra room. People who think the 5 series has gotten too big, might appreciate having something sized more like an older 5 series.
@jkliao64867 ай бұрын
@@norwegianblue2017 Then like you said, the CT5-V is not a 5 series competitor. In fact, if you sit in one, you would realize the rear leg room and head room is barely any different from a 3 series. If anything, the head room is actually less than a 3 series because of the sloping roof. That is not an in-between product, that is a strict 3 series competitor, from price, to tech to options, except it's less practical than a 3 series because it's a bigger car from the outside, so more difficult to park, maneuver and less efficient daily-wise or performance-wise because of all the added weight.
@nateisright7 ай бұрын
Cadillac interior is awful though.
@norwegianblue20177 ай бұрын
@@nateisright I disagree. The interior in the V and the V Blackwing is quite respectable.
@lane56867 ай бұрын
Current BMW 5 series doesn’t hit the same as the previous generation. I’ll take either the Lexus IS 350 F Sport or the Acura TLX A Spec over this honestly…..Lexus GS too 😅
@freepadz62417 ай бұрын
Those cars are ancient
@Platos-Den7 ай бұрын
So is a 57 chevy. Whats your point?@@freepadz6241
@lane56867 ай бұрын
@@freepadz6241 And they hold value
@THESLlCK7 ай бұрын
@@freepadz6241I’d rather own a relic than a sterilized robot that doesn’t do what I want it to do
@kristians27047 ай бұрын
tell me you're biased towards japanese brands without telling me. Those cars are ancient and completely different price and segment.
@ErwinSchrodinger647 ай бұрын
"Hey Tommy, this car is great. Wow! Just wow! No physical buttons, caked on screens, it's more iPhone than car. Hell, even the engine is partially plastic. This is wonderful! Tommy! Be careful with that coffee!" Coffee spills over the screens. Car short circuits on the railroad tracks while a train is approaching. Dale and Tommy... best friends... 1965 - 2024.
@ShadowBend7 ай бұрын
I feel like in the past even the standard BMWs were something to aspire to own, not so much anymore. Of course the M cars were always something special, but I remember various versions of 3 series and 5 series still being something to aspire to. Now especially with those screens they just don't differentiate themselves enough.
@Deetroiter7 ай бұрын
This is so true. BMW was THE vehicle to aspire for that you ‘made it’. Many folks don’t even look at them as a made it vehicle these days and more of a normal, typical run of the mill commuter. Still an expensive vehicle, but that blemish on their image and market really hurts a lot. Being known as a luxury vehicle but more and more people aren’t seeing you as one. This leads to either BMW needs to adjust their market, which they won’t/cant, or they need to persuade consumers to see them as still being a luxury vehicle, which they’re losing ground with each day that passes. BMW is in a tight place with no way out it seems. I know for myself, I still see Mercedes as classy, upscale, etc and a ‘made it’ vehicle. But a BMW, in my eyes, is like an “oh…that’s cool. I guess” type of brand. I wouldn’t even consider one if I was out looking for my splurge purchase. Another thing I really think hurts their image is that so many vehicles these days are priced at crazy prices, easily pushing $60-70k. BMW blends right in with everyone else and it conveys cheapness when people start wondering why a Hyundai costs the same as a BMW, or a BMW is the same price as a Hyundai. A difficult spot I wouldn’t want to be in as a company!
@mattwilliams74547 ай бұрын
It makes the TLX look like the deal of the century
@srsbsns76737 ай бұрын
No joke. Yes, the 5 series is bigger inside and out. Especially the back seat. Yes, the 5 series gets better fuel economy. Yes, the 5 series has better drivetrains. But the TLX looks much better inside and out. The TLX has physical controls. Oh, yeah, and an A-Spec is $10-20k cheaper than a 530i. A Type-S is $10-15k cheaper than a 540i. Hard to see where that extra money goes, when the driving experience is synthetic, there are nauseating screens everywhere, and everything that made BMW great is gone.
@MSilvermanCA5 ай бұрын
I test drove the TLX. Thought it was awful.
@michaelv68704 ай бұрын
Why would i drive a Honda when I can drive a BMW?
@mattwilliams74544 ай бұрын
@@michaelv6870 the style. The performance. The value. The reliability.
@michaelv68704 ай бұрын
@@mattwilliams7454 Exactly.
@frankalvarez96367 ай бұрын
Appreciate you showing the weight of the vehicle!
@jr18857 ай бұрын
Surprisingly the 530i isn’t the volume seller for the 5 Series, it’s actually the 540i. Not the case with Mercedes or Audi. The E350 and A6 2.0T are the volume sellers.
@leviathan52077 ай бұрын
Wellp, apparently not in Germany. We don't get the 40i.
@tudornaicu097 ай бұрын
@@leviathan5207same here in Romania. The only way to get the B58 engine is to buy the 550e. But i guess that’s how it is now in the european market
@jr18857 ай бұрын
@@leviathan5207 correction, in the US. I’m not familiar with other markets, but here in the states you’re most likely to spot a 540i on the road before any other engine.
@johnshaw3597 ай бұрын
BMW 5 Series drivers want at least 6 cylinders.
@herrbrahms7 ай бұрын
No thanks. I want a 5 series with a 1. manual transmission, 2. inline six, 3. manual parking brake, 4. physical HVAC and radio controls. What made the 5 series special long ago was the mix of comfort on the inside with an enjoyable driving experience and poise. This is now a German Buick with little draw for the enthusiast driver. iDrive was fine when it stayed in the background out of the way. Making it the only interface for major elements of car control was stupid. At least it's not completely butt fugly.
@damilolaakanni7 ай бұрын
E39 is your best bet. It doesn't get better than that.
@iana36s7 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for the modern buyer who thinks this car’s interior features are an improvement from the past. Yes having better performing sound systems and HVAC system etc. is a step in the right direction but trying to make a car interior function for a tech nerd who thinks he or she is sitting on a couch with his iPad and PlayStation in his hand is not only dangerous it saps all the enjoyment out of the driving experience. This review was boring because the car is disconnected from the driver. Might as well have an autonomous driving vehicle at this point.
@herrbrahms7 ай бұрын
@@damilolaakanni Yep. My two BMWs are 10 and 20 years old respectively and in great condition. They make nothing today that interests me.
@faheemabbas39657 ай бұрын
@@herrbrahmsmodern “fun” cars are dead. EVs will make it worse if the governments around the world don’t give up on them. Just be careful who you vote for…
@Calx917 ай бұрын
It was only a matter of time before BMW completely ruined the 5 series
@brandonobaza86107 ай бұрын
A BMW 5 series with 4 cylinder. It's like powering the Titanic with a beanie propeller. "How do you like it?" "It's great. I can't wait to bowtie it around a telephone pole after too many Chablis spritzers."
@A52_E927 ай бұрын
And now the next m5 weighs a little under 1,000 pounds more than the last one
@OdyTypeR7 ай бұрын
But the EV version will have nearly perfect weight distribution: 3250lbs on each corner 🤦
@yzhan2257 ай бұрын
Wild that this can be optioned at 70k and still be stuck with the base 4 cylinder turbo engine.
@smokesgtp7 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's unbelievable
@phillyphil15137 ай бұрын
unfortunately this is what it's been since the both the F10 and G30 5er generations starting back in 2010, so 14 years at this point.
@TehMykleMedia7 ай бұрын
FYI you guys blurred out the speedometer speed, but the HUD speed is visible still.
@ilcomendante5 ай бұрын
Did no one at BMW protest against the destruction of decades of work on cockpit refinement? If people wanted a computer on wheels, they would just go with Tesla or literally any Chinese copycat. Why are European premium manufacturers shooting themselves in the foot like this? If anything they should go the opposite way. Cannot compute 🤯
@jmh2117 ай бұрын
LOL i lost it when it zoomed in at "B58" mentioned
@CaptCanuck44447 ай бұрын
BMW is so boring and uninteresting now. No longer an aspirational brand.
@wonderboy19987 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that do not get excited with these Euro brands?
@faheemabbas39657 ай бұрын
Euro brands are dead to me. Modern “luxury” cars aren’t worth it anymore imo with the exception of some Lexuses.
@Deetroiter7 ай бұрын
Two different cars and markets but after driving a ‘cheap’ Tesla that does 0-60 in 3.5, when cars like this BMW try to push ‘blistering’ times at 4.5 seconds but cost twice the price, it really just doesn’t impress me at all. I think the biggest thing with BMW and other manufacturers like Harley Davidson, etc is people these days more than ever don’t want to be associated with stereotypes of certain brands. Every brand is going to have them, but some more than others, especially BMW. Plus, the price just doesn’t match for what you get. There’s many more options these days that have fantastic options, performance, styling etc for much cheaper. People are willing to get 90% of the same features for much lower prices than what that extra 10% offers for way more money.
@hassanger81287 ай бұрын
@@Deetroiter yes, that's why BMW sakes figures are skyrocketing
@IAmTheHound6 ай бұрын
@@Deetroiter apart from straight-line speed though, the BMW is better than the Tesla in every single respect - handling, braking, build quality etc. Wouldn't get either though personally.
@kj98327 ай бұрын
It's official dudes, the first ugly 5 series ever, unfortunately
@67tomcat7 ай бұрын
100%- truly sad.
@LnDSuv7 ай бұрын
Yeah, although it's not as ugly as other BMWs
@user-dibribhsvj36d7 ай бұрын
Fan boys praise this design along with fulgy g80/g82 in bmw subreddit.
@kj98327 ай бұрын
@@user-dibribhsvj36d typical fanboys behaviour. Doesn't change the ugly
@NomadJedi7 ай бұрын
@@user-dibribhsvj36d BMW subreddit is a place for you to flex your newest acquisition. Bonus points if you say "first BMW, I'm so happy". It's not a place for actual discussion.
@scottsummers41547 ай бұрын
For the money, I would go the IS500, CT5V, TLX Type S route.
@chynacash31387 ай бұрын
Yeah particularly the TLX-S and Cadillac CT5-V for me over this BMW.
@plusultra2437 ай бұрын
Wow 5 series with 4 cylinder engine
@bassandtrebleclef7 ай бұрын
We shouldn't have to get used to expensive cars. We should want them and aspire to them.
@rimmerblues15867 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@electrikoptik7 ай бұрын
BMW become a mockery of itself.
@faheemabbas39657 ай бұрын
BMW is dead to me. Nonexistent.
@tyler9517 ай бұрын
I'm holding on to my 2006 E46 330ci ZHP 6-MT with dear life. My 2017 F25 xDrive35i X3 less so but I really enjoy it too. Still able to reasonably DIY a lot of stuff with a good scanner.
@JRB417 ай бұрын
I drive a 2011 BMW 328i xDrive Sports Wagon, 6 speed manual, single hump I thought new in late 2010. I’m NEVER getting rid of it, and if I have to, I will be getting a Porsche, never ever again am I getting a BMW. They don’t drive like a BMW, and they look like a Kia.
@ricodog36524 ай бұрын
I’ve had Audis, BMWs and Mercedes. BMW is always the best for the first 20,000 miles. Then the thrill is gone. The fit and finish on the Mercedes and Audis make them a more pleasurable car for the long term. At least as far as sedans go.
@sapphir87 ай бұрын
Why go to the screens and remove physical buttons? Easy. Start locking features behind a paywall. Much easier to do via a touchscreen instead of a physical button.
@chrish95027 ай бұрын
Don’t worry Jack I watched the whole video. The Ad revenue should allocate another colorway for the paragonia sweater for you.
@UsaSzerelem7 ай бұрын
Probably because I am not Chinese and I lack the sophisticated taste of that country that this car was designed for, I tend to navigate to other vehicles that I find more aesthetically pleasing.
@hotdog92627 ай бұрын
exterior in for example sapphire black and classic sport(base) looks significantly better. interior is meh
@floodo17 ай бұрын
Nice laptop, tho I’d prefer one without the steering wheel. Can I upgrade the ram?
@junyaiwase7 ай бұрын
It’s soldered on to the motherboard
@xrstopherpopp1207 ай бұрын
BMW has sold it's soul.
@RoyBelluomini6 ай бұрын
Saw the writing on the walls for the 5 series last year. Ordered a ‘23 M550 before they took out the V8 out and turned to all screens. I decided to buy my ‘21 M340 lease out because of the same issue. The B58 is a phenomenal engine. These 2 sedans are the last of BMWs classic modern interior. I had a ‘24 7 series loaner for a week. I couldn’t stand the screens. Hopefully BMW finds their way when my 550 lease is up or I will be buying that one out too and take a hiatus from any new BMW.
@ThatWasherNerd7 ай бұрын
Sat in one of these at the Pittsburgh autoshow this last weekend, and I was disgusted with its interior/exterior design language, as well as its general complexity in controls. If I'm the target demographic for tech and I can't even figure out how to use it while sitting in an autoshow, I have no idea how people use it while driving.
@ShaiyanHossain7 ай бұрын
whats funny is that the people who can afford these things new are probably like 45-65 yer old people who don't even know how to close apps on an iPhone
@gettcouped7 ай бұрын
gimmicks are so annoying and really hinder this vehicle, but J & M really know about something we don’t and that is how great the drivetrain is.
@S8ER7 ай бұрын
Calling out BMW... I'm here for it.
@stevec97047 ай бұрын
It saddens me as a long time BMW owner. I may keep what I have until the wheels fall off, whether sooner or later.
@Lazirus9517 ай бұрын
$70k for a 4 cylinder is something I just cannot comprehend.
@bidzej867 ай бұрын
Oh good lord, that steering wheel looks cheap... And why the heck do they insist on using glossy finishing on the elements that you touch most often???
@christopherlaflam63837 ай бұрын
It is a shame GM decided not to offer its Cadillac CT6 here in the states any longer. I saw a video on the version offered in China and it's just gorgeous. And the latest version offered in the U.S Caddys own turbocharged V8 (and all wheel steering!) for a short time, with other versions offering a twin turbo V6. If the luxury makes can offer new sedans in the U.S market, my can't GM and Ford?
@MuitoDaora7 ай бұрын
Because people don't buy it.
@GTI_Man7 ай бұрын
I didn’t see that the CT6 got discontinued in the States, what an absolute shame. At least you can get a great deal on a used example.
@papa_pt7 ай бұрын
Because it made little sense next to the CT5 EVEN excepting Blackwing, the current CT5V is a great sports sedan. Without a doubt more excited to drive than this.
@chynacash31387 ай бұрын
@@papa_pt Agree - The Cadillac CT5-V would appeal to me a little more in this segment, particularly the refreshed 2025.
@omnimoeish7 ай бұрын
@@chynacash3138 The 2025 CT5-V is chef's kiss. There's few cars I've wanted to actually own more.
@willjam4657 ай бұрын
When I saw the profile in the thumbnail, I had to do a double take as I thought it was a new Accord yet the title said 5 Series (no disrespect to the Accord). BMW are doing their best to make the enthusiasts look back on the Bangle era with actual fondness at this point. Something I never thought I would say…
@goncalo337 ай бұрын
I always found Bangle's cars to be gorgeous. I'm yet to understand why people hated them. As a bonus, they aged really well.
@willjam4657 ай бұрын
@@goncalo33 I owned an E90 M3 and loved it. Best car out of that era. 5 Series has grown on me, but I just don’t care for the 6 and 7 in their first Bangle iteration. Still find the E38 and E39 to be the best looking BMW designs.
@oddherlofsen56174 ай бұрын
I love my 550e . Nr. 5 5series since 1997. Driven 13000 km in 5 months through Europe from Norway to southern Spain.
@faheemabbas39657 ай бұрын
This company is dead to me. RIP old BMW. We’re never going to see another peak in the auto industry ever again. All of the best cars have already been built. It’s all downhill from here.