Savate is DANGEROUS with Shoes

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@ignitionfrn2223 Жыл бұрын

0:30 - Stance 0:50 - "Fouetté" 1:45 - Savate shoes 3:25 - Armed to the feet 4:45 - Muay thai roundhouse kick 5:25 - Muay thai side kick 6:40 - Roundhouse kick to the head 8:40 - From savate to kickboxing 9:10 - Rules for kicking 10:00 - "Revers frontal" 13:00 - Back to roundhouse kicks to the head 15:00 - Combinations 17:20 - Conclusion

@SlowDeath1993 Жыл бұрын

Love It. Thanks guys! More Savate, we need more Savate

@KevinLeeVlog Жыл бұрын

Let’s add more!

@SlowDeath1993 Жыл бұрын

Does Savate have forms? What's main balance of the footwork? And more technically can you break down the squat side kick? Seems complicated to execute correct balance in savate. Thank you so much Sir. Always appreciated you videos.

@TheVulgarSkill Жыл бұрын

@@SlowDeath1993Old 19th/early 20th century savate particularly in the military had solo forms you could do as a large group and formation and they're written down in some of the older Savate manuals. I personally practice them for history and tradition's sake but in the modern sport Savate doesn't have forms the way a karate, kung fu, or similar practitioner would use that word.

@jenskunze4384 Жыл бұрын

@@KevinLeeVlogSavate and old-school Okinawa Karate especially Uechi-Ryu kicks with the hardened toe against the solar plexus or to penetrate the armpits makes both very dangerous! Maybe a topic or idea for a video of the future would be that your Master would react to some kicks of Uechi-Ryu or other old-school Okinawa techniques?

@savate.moscow Жыл бұрын

@@KevinLeeVlogWe have more and better about savate)

@BMO_Creative Жыл бұрын

Savate is dangerous period! LOL Savate uses feet like a hard strike rather than a knock back or knock down. Great video Lee!

@KevinLeeVlog Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@MarkoObradovich Жыл бұрын

All compliments Kevin 💪 I am a sports professor and martial artist and this two episodes were just pure enjoyment for me. The comparations and explanations were excellent 👍 Great two videos 😊

@BadYokaiManager Жыл бұрын

My father did savate when he was at the army. He still has a crazy balance and distance management. It's actually quite hard to approach

@lordoffaiyum9727 Жыл бұрын

Great for distance control.

@marioratnaraja719 8 ай бұрын

The 'Professor' barely has any kind of balance

@jacobharris954 18 күн бұрын

Basically You have hugged your dad in years lol

@jordanrock3494 Жыл бұрын

You can train and take punches to the body to where it hardly hurts, but with certain kicks, it's impossible not to feel the pain. Savate pairs so well to improve your kickboxing and karate. Another great video!

@themadrazorback2019 Жыл бұрын

When the Savate folks take the shoes off, might take a look at Uechi Ryu toe kicks and conditioning. Big part of their kicking is toe kicks. Savate Dans Le Due is well worth taking a look at if you love SD arts. Great stuff! Thanks.

@Martel_Clips Жыл бұрын

on the crescent kick chamber in tae kwon do it's to have an "universal chamber" more than for speed, and i think it's also a bit the case in karate. basically the idea is that this way every back leg kick looks the same: the push kicks the side push the semi round the full round the snap kick the inside/outside crescent and the axe they all start by raising your knee to belt height so ythe opponent get less time to identify and react to the kick when i compare note with other people at the kickboxing gym they always find it difficult to read my kicks, while i almost always know whats coming and initiate a reaction

@paulconrad6220 Жыл бұрын

As a fencer who recently started kickboxing, I really want to get into savate

@alanguages 4 ай бұрын

Savate like fencing seems to be finesse and precision.

@crypticnomad Жыл бұрын

I like some of these concepts and the speed at which they would allow us to strike. Depending on the lifestyle a person lives and location they live they may be more likely to run into a self defense situation where they are wearing shoes than when they aren't and these techniques are extremely useful in those contexts. if I'm not trying to generate a bunch of power, my kicks can be pretty darn fast and this gives me some ideas to do some more stabbing teep-like fast kicks as openers for something else.

@Gzussss Жыл бұрын

In our traditional japanese karate style, we sometimes use the ball of the foot during roundhouses and crescent kicks.

@cringusmoss9937 Жыл бұрын

I have a theory of training that a school should train in boxing gloves, mma gloves and barehanded. Include in that training in the heaviest boots you own (steel toed or snowboarding boots), tennis shoes or running shoes and barefoot. The differences in movement of the hands with bulky gloves vs barehand are vast and you can get really tripped up when you are unfamiliar, getting stuck or gassed easily. Same with steel toes; you're gonna be more powerful but you'll tear your knee apart without specific forms. It also tires you out and restricts your ankle mobility. Not only will you learn the strengths and limitations of each loadout you will also make better decisions in footwear for every day use. Finally it will also prepare the student to engage in any contest with reasonable confidence. If someone wants to box or kickboxing you can throw down with big bulky gloves, mma and grappling/takedown while wearing gi, street clothes and bare chested. Alternatively Joe Badguy at the bar can catch hands that don't break and you can transition seamlessly to toe kicking around blocks with hardened shoes. As we know you hit completely different with the hand depending on how protected they are and the feet are no different. You could key muscle memory of style to the equipment, instantly breaking out the right style depending on the gear worn. So many boxers go bareknuckle and punch too hard or can't make a fist because they ONLY train with gloves. Wing Chun masters with any gloves, particularly boxing but even mma have trained the margins of range of motion so intensely and narrow margins that the extra bulk or weight can unbalance or even snag. Let me know your thoughts! As always fascinating and informative video. I'd love to see you do Sil Nim Tao with 16 oz gloves and sticky hands with MMA gloves to test how the forms vary and practicality is affected.

@jacobharris954 28 күн бұрын

That is style idea, I will steal it when I get back into training

@jameswright6256 6 ай бұрын

These videos where you have different martial artists going through similar techniques and strikes from there styles are great, make more of these please 😂

@chasecarter8848 11 ай бұрын

I love how recently sport fighters are learning ( reinventing the wheel) that things like shoes matter. There are literally those out there who claim that if you can't fight barefoot you can't fight at all. To which I say, try my boot in your shin and let's see if you can even fight my shoe...Also, do these guys wonder around barefoot? Do you know what a foot stomp feels like boot v bare foot on tile or pavement? It's the same idiocy as them that say brass knuckles will hurt you more than your opponent. Which is only true if your opponent has the knucks. It's good to see some honesty Re Fighting V Sport.

@teovu5557 10 ай бұрын

Look up this old savate masters fights and instructionals from the 80s and early 90s .....hes f'king fast and smooth.

@SHaDyFiGuRe Жыл бұрын

I love the comparison in styles! I always admired the chambering aspects from Karate and Taekwondo, being a karate black belt it helped me immensely transitioning to Savate style of kicking. The aspect of kicking with the toe is exactly like fencing with your feet in my opinion 🤺 Awesome Video😁

@KevinLeeVlog Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@thattrickytrickster612 Жыл бұрын

I always thought that Savate would be very good in a self defense situation against multiple opponents. Use a boxing style stance and maneuver away from opponents and using headmovement, use karate as a base for proper footwork and power generation for straights, and savate for balance and the kicking with the shoe, prioritizing speed to "pierce" in places it would really hurt a guy enough to put him down for a while. Add judo for throws, BJJ if you get tackled to the ground, and wrestling for overall explosiveness and takedowns and you got yourself a pretty good basis for self-defense. Oh, and don't forget the weapons work.

@anotheret1064 Жыл бұрын

so basically everything?

@leplombier3272 Жыл бұрын

the unrestricted kicks armed with shoes are only one of the many unknown aspects of the original savate which is basically a hybridization between the techniques of street fighting and fencing (from the base of the aristocracy of 'old regime). The martial art bears the name of a military shoe (a bit like the rangers of the time) made of particularly hard iron boiled leather and whose sole could be cut in order to have a sharp edge. But this is only one aspect of the original savate as it was designed by the masters and forgotten with after the massacres during the 2 world wars and its impoverishment by the transformation into sport (in order to make competitions of international kickboxing) Indeed, savate is a real complete martial art. It includes the practice of weapons (mainly the knife and different types of leaded cane, see a gadget cane containing a point, the baton but also fencing with foil and saber (which was a real weapon of war) It is precisely because the savate included the practice of weapons that it kept in its system such mobility and distance without developing the handling of the fists or the logic of cashing a blow (we do not cash a stab). unlike English boxing which is basically a sport (competition) where weapons are prohibited. Apart from the distance of the fist, it is precisely the most dangerous distance against the knife and at the time Paris was filled with gangs of sociopathic, alcoholic and ultra-violent pimps killing for fun. Of course there is in the different styles a whole set of open or closed hand striking techniques from all angles. "French Boxing" being basically a style among others resulting from the hybridization of savate techniques with that of English pugliat (English boxing) by one of the masters of the time. (charle lecour) But these blows are in fact a transition towards one of the lost specialties of savate and that some in France are recreating: The Parisian wrestlingt which is a wrestlingt with strikes. Indeed, France was a very great country of wrestlers. Once the distance was reduced, the fists were used as a transition to a wrestling game including "wrestling blows" (elbow, knee, head) as well as projections and very dangerous holds. (but never any ground work, too dangerous on the street) Voila, that's THE savate. It will be reborn despite the reluctance of the older generation who sabotaged it from the inside to win medals and our intellectual elites who have deliberately renounced our traditions (out of pacifism and a taste for exoticism). Yet when we work on the question it is largely comparable to what can be found in Asia even on the philosophical level with hygienism and stoicism (tradition of warriors from ancient Greece to Rome)

@frankhassle9366 Жыл бұрын

I'd pay good money to have you work me over....rough me up, make me feel like a real sissy-pants....you up for the challenge?

@bartangel4867 8 ай бұрын

despite of this I think savate is very interesting and it is underestimated but if you really lose point if you hit someone with a shin while trying to hit them with the shoe that is probably one of the reasons why savate isn't more popular.

@dbuck1964 Жыл бұрын

Shotokan teaches using the ball of the foot for roundhouse kicks for a similar reason, it hits like a hammer and penetrates more deeply.

@nicolaspeigne1429 Жыл бұрын

As a guy who work with steel tipped shoes, learning savate would make me feel like i'm carrying a sword

@MansMan42069 Жыл бұрын

imagine wearing sabatons (actual metal foot armour)

@GOBRAGH2 Жыл бұрын

The shoes change the kicking experience. It's an interesting art I don't know a lot about. I'd be interested in seeing more Savage videos.

@devs.4254 10 ай бұрын

I'll never forget when in 2004 I saw a skinhead land a perfect kick with the toe of his boot under a guy's chin. His victim was out cold instantly- we teenagers thought he had died with how pale he went. The man wasn't a martial artist, he just knew his distance. Shoes, and especially boots, change things dramatically

@lordoffaiyum9727 Жыл бұрын

Bruce Lee had books on Savate and was a fan of using it.

@dirtpoorchris Жыл бұрын

Once you learn how to angle your heel or footpad into every kick you can do a pretty amazing amount of damage. The right type of shoe makes this even better. I used to practice hundreds and hundreds of heel kicks to face level in steel toe boots with extra heavy rubber tread for the weight. Savate shoes look light and strong but I never used one. A savate master can prolly hit you right with the corners of the sole so it really really hurts. Savate shoes kinda remind me of horse shoe on a scary horse.

@DarylSauerwald-g7n 10 ай бұрын

Kicking shoes or boots have a part of European combat arts, the Greek Honor Guard still wear a shoe with a nail at the toe. I think this may be a factor in the evolution of Savate.

@mickaelcousseau8749 Жыл бұрын

Nice video guys To complete your video, I hope you did (or will do) a video about the parries and ripost that come against the savate kicks 😉

@KevinLeeVlog Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@mellonhead9568 Жыл бұрын

savate improved my kicking balance 100%

@mangeybum1443 Жыл бұрын

im here for these collaborations all day. this is like a torrent of premium content.

@creaturebrushstudio656 Жыл бұрын

Love it! More Savate, please.

@hyde184 Жыл бұрын

Interesting martial arts, really. I would like to try Savate someday.

@KevinLeeVlog Жыл бұрын

You should!

@thesergiorevengeshow Жыл бұрын

try the Cung Lao Butterfly leg sweep from his Sanshou days, especially if you end up 'too close/inside' and need a sweep/escape - or transition it into a kneebar/sambo knee pinch submission (Bas Rutten has a really good knee pinch maneuver that can be gotten to from the Cung Lao Butterfly sweep).

@teovu5557 10 ай бұрын

cung le(lay) you mean ....never heard of no fighter named cung lao unless you're talking about mortal Kombat. Lol

@thesergiorevengeshow 9 ай бұрын

@@teovu5557 hahah, yes. Thank you

@manuelzapata1192 Жыл бұрын

Savant would be good for self defense. Most people walk around wearing Some kind of shoes. But very interesting video MR. Lee

@flykyrt81 Жыл бұрын

@Kevin Lee, with regards to kicking with the toe. Have you ever heard/ seen Uechi-Ryu Karate? They have some real toe kicks, but crazy painful looking conditioning for the foot.

@flykyrt81 Жыл бұрын

Great job btw, bringing more light to Savate! They don't get enough attention/love. I look forward to more from the Professor!

@KevinLeeVlog Жыл бұрын

No I have not! But thank you for letting me know! I am gonna have to look into it!!

@maxhensley1685 Жыл бұрын

@@KevinLeeVlog Uechi ryu has some of the most impressive conditioning I've encountered outside Shaolin monks who basically make a living around martial arts performances. I trained briefly with a Uechi ryu sensei, where a bunch of his students attested to having watched a student who decided it would be funny to see what happened if he attacked his sensei by surprise. The instructor whipped around and hit him with a spearhand to the chest which tore his pectoral muscles on that side. They called an ambulance for him, and the EMTs had to cut his shirt off. I watched him do some pretty painful finger and toe conditioning, but he told me that there are other practitioners out there who take it to a much higher level than he did.

@JaSon-wc4pn Жыл бұрын

Monkey claw video next Kev On a rope pad A work out for the fingers

@raccoonmyroom6861 Жыл бұрын

I'm super curious how the kicking in savate impacts the hands now. Great video!

@leplombier3272 Жыл бұрын

with or without real shoes?

@raccoonmyroom6861 Жыл бұрын

Competitively. Like in a Savate competition.

@caninocan6157 4 ай бұрын

⁠⁠⁠@@raccoonmyroom6861con o sin zapatos te dolerian, más aún con zapatos, como sería en una compteción de Savate o en la calle.

@albebelt3013 Жыл бұрын

Savate is dangerous with or without shoes. You have boxing punches and kicks...so...could be really effective.

@avgnfan26 Жыл бұрын

Kevin I just learned your wing chun school is a reasonable drive from me (about an hour) could you please tell me about pricing/class time/extras I would love to go

@thesergiorevengeshow Жыл бұрын

16:07 yessir, hit the ops on the inside of their lead leg with a turning/round kick of sorts, then Same foot, go into a pushing/snapping low side kick, targeting the ops Back leg knee-to ankle, as you are landing = ops should be on the ground or off balance/stumbling back a bit

@dirtpoorchris Жыл бұрын

Is it Savate where you get more points if you do 2 kicks and 1 punch and all 3 land?

@wiseSYW Жыл бұрын

this made me realize savate is a weapon-based martial art.

@redwithblackstripes Жыл бұрын

Yes, this is also why the sport form has so many restrictions, it is because at its core it is not about competition but its about giving you the relevant skills in an actual street fight.

@Cipher_Paul 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, which is why savate practitionners are at a heavy disadvantage when they're put up against other fighters without being allowed to wear their shoes.

@thomas.m2250 9 ай бұрын

Which is funny because some story says that because of laws that forbiden strikes with your fist or with weapons the French created savate because the law didn't precise anything about striking with your feet. So savate allowed you to defend yourself without having any problem with the law (in the 19th century). Some people consider Savate as Fencing but with shoes

@raccoonmyroom6861 Жыл бұрын

Thoughts on what we can look for in a shoe for every day walking around?

@dhalav Жыл бұрын

shoes whose tip and sole are rigid, you can't use trainers or sneakers

@mellonhead9568 Жыл бұрын

bro if i attack u on the street dont kick me with your toes please...... P.S im gonna mug u tomorrow at 10 am see ya!! ;)

@garrettglass586 Жыл бұрын

Took a fouetté to the arm the other day and that hurt like hell. I love Savate.

@myvt5360 Жыл бұрын

Since I have been in wing chun so long...it is funny seeing wing chun instructors speak. Our elbows, innately, do not leave a certain point when we are illustrating things. 😅😂Great video, thank you.

@antre_du_retro Жыл бұрын

Can't get enough of savate 🥰

@SuperCucko Жыл бұрын

But do i NEED the reinforced shoes? You guys should test how well this works in typical sneakers.

@guytakamatsu7326 Жыл бұрын

Interesting comparison between karate and Savate.

@FightCommentary 11 ай бұрын

I want some savate shoes!

@seempeeson771 Жыл бұрын

Try this with steel toe caps very dangerous

@ethanbaran6158 Жыл бұрын

Imagine savat with PNW heritage boots, like 2-4 lbs of leather with rounded or pointed toes.. oof..

@adamjones1982 Жыл бұрын

More savate content.

@andresvalentin6924 Жыл бұрын

As a martial artist myself, now I'm gonna start wearing sneakers with steel toes after watching this video.

@KevinLeeVlog Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Chuckies_pie 5 ай бұрын

Yeah now obviously shoes help especially in self-defense it's easier to use the toes,but not on karate or kickboxing and Muay Thai also. Not having front kick is a problem for me as that's one of the best kicks to the head , smack right on the jaw we see it in the ring and also in defense. Im not really ok with shoes for kicks in a ring sport either. Im not saying savate isn't adaptable to other tournaments but the practitioner is disadvantaged without them for sure.

@Velcos_Mix Жыл бұрын

Best point for me 9:18.

@swordpvnk Жыл бұрын

Anyone know if there is anyone teaching savate in Ohio?

@mactysonkarate Жыл бұрын

Always hope one day that a Savate fighter who transitions to Kickboxing one day masters the Karate Roundhouse with the ball of the foot. Since that will open up more of their Savate combinations.

@jacobharris954 Жыл бұрын

For someone who does wing chun could compare them with wing chun kicks

@KevinLeeVlog Жыл бұрын

That’s my next video! There is a lot of similarities!

@leplombier3272 Жыл бұрын

@@KevinLeeVlog it's normal, wing chun, old savate and ancient karate have a lot in common. It is an individual combat technique, armed, designed for urban combat and not a battlefield like jujitsu or the old medieval chivalrous fight. On the other hand, if it exists for traditional karate and old savate, I don't know if wingshung includes wrestling techniques, arm locks and projection.

@KemalKaratatar Жыл бұрын

İf you make shock attack with two speedly steps jumping in front of his face, he will see knees on his chin ☝😎

@KevinLeeVlog Жыл бұрын

😳😳

@rudellclark3897 7 ай бұрын

do KYOKUSHIN KARATE

@JoshuaEFinley 10 ай бұрын

I always forget this is called Savate.

@obscurelines Жыл бұрын

This clearly calls for a crazy man to take some of these kicks to see what they are like. Please get Houston Jones involved. That would be magic.

@serranodrums Жыл бұрын

For sure this dude is Bruce Lee’s nephew🔥

@bartangel4867 8 ай бұрын

Someone losing a point because they hit with their shin instead of a shoe is absurd. on the other hand not taking a shoe into consideration in a fight is also absurd. one should not divide martial arts that should work together into styles that compete against each other . there are things you can learn from all three boxing muay thai and savate. infect if someone could integrate all three they would be most rounded fighter and would have an edge over any of those fighting styles separately. you wouldn't use savate if you had no shoes. on the other hand if you had steel toed shoes your best bet would be savate. but that does not mean that using your shins would be useless. with typical shoes you should be able to use both your toes and your shins because both would be useful. I can understand that in savate hit with a shin might not count. and there should be time in your training when you only try to hit someone with shoes rather than shins even if you practice other martial arts involving kicks if you wish to be a round fighter. but deducting points if someone happens to land with their shins that is not a good idea at all. martial arts is supposed to be martial. I'm not a good athlete and i have no experience with martial arts (I hit the pads from time to time but that is about it) but it seems pretty obvious even to me that while martial arts can't really be called self defense it should be as close as realistic fight as possible. obviously you wouldn't be biting in a gym or even a ring but a martial arts is supposed to help you in a hand to hand combat (in some forms of martial arts armed combat as well) and you shouldn't make illegal kicks in a fighting system that involves kicking if they don't involve kicking the opponent when he is on the ground or something of this nature. because savate uses shoes It makes sense if the only thing you are studding is savate to not count hits with the shin. but deducing points if one happens to land with their shin is like deducting points if opponent blocks your attack which also makes no sense.

@padraicogawain3162 9 ай бұрын

Kickboxers freak out with fear and apoplexy with the idea of wearing shoes in kickboxing. Ridiculous hypocrisy coming from people who think nothing of throwing knees and elbows to the head. Truth: The shoe is both a weapon and a protection for the foot. More kicks are possible with shoes on and fewer feet and toes get broken.