Save GWSN (Why I'm Worried About GWSN)

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name: Sun
age: 22
pronouns: she/her
favorite groups: shinee, seventeen, gwsn, pink fantasy, twice, saturday
Please keep in mind everything in the video is alleged, I am not stating anything as facts. Everything said in this video is only opinions, formed from the sources I could gather online.

[@daizy_k5040]

TIMESTAMPS: 0:43 - GWSN's Career 6:03 - Company Changes 11:28 - Where is SoSo? 18:18 - The "Like It Hot" Comeback 22:39 - Staff Issues 27:49 - Other Issues 35:25 - Why You Should Support GWSN

[@calc3961]

What sucks too is that they literally have a pristine discography it’s not like the group’s tanking for having no interest or bad voices or bad music. They have what it takes to be big, this is ENTIRELY the company’s fault.

[@irvingchies1626]

Indeed, most of their B-sides are even really good, while most other BIG kpop groups still have shitty B-sides just like 90's and 00's musicians from the west

[@emdawg3]

exactly if they were promoted more they could be as famous as like g-idle or mamamoo

[@autismpete]

FACTS! You not only have good title tracks, but they have some of the BEST b-sides in all of Kpop. Black Hole, Aerialist, Tweaks, Night Aviation... even the b-side dedicated to the fanbase Growing... for Groo is amazing! Yeah GWSN should be way bigger than what they are.

[@shihona]

the weirdest part about gwsn’s situation to me id that the better they do, the less their company seems to care about them. their recent comeback like u said had their highest preorders ever and 2nd highest sales? its their 2nd most liked MV after less than a year and yet suddenly now is when their management doesn’t promote or care for them?

[@jihoonscarat]

It’s very odd indeed. They are treating them like an group with no fans or interest but they have such a loyal fan base

[@shihona]

@@jihoonscarat right😭 + thank u sm for making this video! hopefully their company will see that so many people r willing to support them

[@coco-gf7eo]

pls... so true... pristin 2.0...

[@avsambart]

Reminds me of what Cube did to CLC.

[@SweetforS]

@@avsambart and a little bit of Gfriend

[@yunari3699]

I really think they should capitalize on miya’s popularity more. Send her to variety shows, cast her on dramas and web-dramas even just as a side character. It worked on Astro’s Eunwoo, and Ex April’s Naeun. Considering that Miya’s style is androgynous and unconventional (one might say), people will easily eat that up which can give the group popularity.

[@NubePeluda]

Miya is also an amazing dancer and I feel like she gets lost on their choreos

[@rosemarievicente2412]

They should try it...maybe it will worked.. miya's look and style is not a joke... im sure many people will notice her because of her captivating beauty if that's happen...maybe it will help not just for her but also for her group(GWSN)..

[@Matthew-sl8dx]

I'm pretty sure her androgynous appearence. Is only popular in the west, on her own I doubt she has that much popularity in career

[@brunetteartist24]

Yeah her look definitely stands out comapred to the general female idol look, it would be easier to market her to get more interest in the group

[@HaruShyShy]

The worst thing is that Ascendio is a film company that makes movies and dramas. And miya is an ACTRESS they are wasting so much potential on her and the group.

[@averynakahara3979]

Honestly as a Pre-Debut Groo, this whole situation is so upsetting... Their debut was so strong and the two combacks under Kiwi Pop were decently well funded and promoted... yet then Kiwi Pop changed to Miles and things weren't as great... then finally the change to The Wave Music brought hell upon groodom as we learned what it was like to truly stan a mismanaged group... ngl I miss Kiwipop

[@ahgwsn]

true,,,

[@Nicolesid1]

I remember the excitement around the debut of this group. Something that really concerns me is if the staff isn't being paid, I doubt the group is getting ANYTHING as the artist is normally the last paid. This could also mean limiting on money for housing, and food.

[@jihoonscarat]

Oh absolutely, if staff isn’t being paid, I’m sure the girls aren’t either OR the little they do get paid goes into their debt to the company like most companies do

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

@@jihoonscarat yup unfortunately 😞😔💔

[@sphinxyminx1922]

It's sad because we as fans think "I'll buy the album to support them" but then the staff is not being paid, the producers are not being paid and the girls probably arent seeing the money either. It is really frustrating... I am really hoping they can get through it somehow since GWSN is my fav active(?) group, but its been harder and harder these times. And no, hybe acquiring the company wont help,idk why so many people say that they want hybe to buy their company. Source music is about to debut a new girl group, which they spent a lot of money on, they wont want to manage another one.

[@krishimehta7857]

idk, to me, HYBE acquiring companies seems a little sus to me, mainly because, I feel like some groups aren't getting like proper promotions even though they are under one of the biggest entertainment companies in SK. and then like, they are random disbandment for groups like NU'EAST and GFRIEND even though these two groups had so much potential. It's like HYBE are gaining these companies then disband groups as a soft reboot and use it to promote newer groups that they can control. If HYBE acquired rights to GWSN, then I feel that HYBE would probably entirely change GWSN'S concept or smth like that, idk HYPE seems sus.

[@nthapa2640]

Literally when hybe debuting 3 gg in future .it could not handle gfriend and already has formis 9

[@SweetforS]

Yeah hybe cannot be a go-to “safe house.” It’s not this weird savior company who is gunna rescue every poorly managed company/group and even then it’s still the company that makes the decisions but now under a larger one. Plus it would just become one boring monopoly which it’s already starting to be. Hybe is good with its own organic groups BTS, TXT, and I’ll include Enhypen too since it’s been related to hybe/Bighit since the beginning even though many want to exclude them. I assume they’ll do well with lesserafim too but I can’t say anything about the rest. Svt is still going well bc they have a solid fan base and have not yet reached the ends of their contract. But if we see a sudden disbandment of then within the next year, then we have an answer.

[@sphinxyminx1922]

@@SweetforS I believe they'll take their time with seventeen, fromis is probably the next in their list...

[@purpleteardropss]

@@SweetforS that's what HYBE wants to achieve - their monopoly. they know they won't be on the same level as big3 in the near future so they are swallowing these smaller companies

[@lavendervvitch99]

I only started really listening to GWSN with their most recent comeback, I went and listened to their entire discography and now I'm obsessed. I don't want to see anything bad happen to this group, they're really so talented and are making such unique music. "I Can't Breathe" is the song that first drew me in - specifically Miya's fancams during their promotions for that song - but all the members are so incredibly gifted. You can bet that if the producers aren't getting paid, the girls probably aren't either - they're putting their whole heart into this for probably no money at all. I wish they were with a better company.

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

Unfortunately bad stuff already happened to them but yeah I don’t want things to turn out even more worse than they already are.

[@SweetforS]

@@gwenmloveskpopandmore I want a comeback so bad. I’ve kinda been sleeping on them. Going to revisit their entire discography (ok well most of it) after this and hope for the best. If they have a comeback, you can almost count on my stanning them. It’s just like these gg’s (fromis_9, wjsn, gwsn, brave girls, etc) I don’t stan bc they never rlly like proved themselves to me. But then sometimes I go back and re-listen and I’m like damn that’s actually pretty good. Im also more of boy group stan than a girl group but I do stan like a good 50-60 girl groups.

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

@@SweetforS well I’m actually a casual listener and probably will remain one until further notice

[@sasklucy]

their situation is made even sadder by the fact that their music is absolutely top tier, just completely on another level, yet they go mostly unnoticed for it

[@gouwon1745]

I remember when they debuted they totally fit an aesthetic I was searching for and ALL literally EVERY SINGLE one of their tracks are pure production quality gold 😭😭😭 Their park in the night trilogy was so strong and I will always support them but why can’t their company just show some small amount of care for them?? There is so so much potential here that’s slowly wasting away :(( I love them so much and watching them kinda deteriorate is absolutely heart-wrenching. :(

[@gouwon1745]

Y’all if they don’t make it I will literally snap I love them so much and it hurts even more being a Soso bias :(

[@escritora84]

I absolutely love GWSN, I've been following their music since their debut. I really believe all the name changes of the company are to either 1) dodge taxes or 2) the company is a front for something else. I swear it seems like all you need to open an entertainment company in Korea is a toothpick and some bubblegum, it makes no sense.

[@joesama3282]

It is the same with their tech company and home renovation contractor company from my experience working with them for several months. Their tech company usually start small watermark based budget and start up a company then make a deal with China factory to make cheap products, but they will exaggerate their products to attract those gullible investors usually some retirees or rich but clueless son to invest on their "surely profitable products" and then run away with the cash. For renovation contractor company is common to encounter scam which is shockingly 70% of the time, they usually demand 50% deposit before they even have yet to start hacking and drilling your new home and then ran off with your desposit closed the company and open new one somewhere else with new company name. Kpop companies are no different small or big, they are sketchy to the extend. SM ent had try to dodge taxes many times during their operation and their scandals on that is nothing new already. Small kpop companies are hard to track because they have little to none of track records and no-one cares. The government also are not that firm to put laws and controls onto these shady practices by company which exploiting child labor, locking them into contract, debt, etc... Seem like actors company is more legit than kpop company because their contract were review by the flim association most of the time

[@paninilist4678]

I'm so glad you're making a video about them, they are a perfect example of their company mismanaging them, because they're pulling the numbers, especially on their instagram, like Miya gets like 30-40k likes on her posts, and their music is unique and pretty easily digestible, but their company has no idea what to do with them, so i'm excited to see what you have to say. :)

[@ごはん-y8z]

I'm Japanese, so I don't understand all the contents of the video. However, thank you for making such a video. The members are unique and talented people, and there are also starlists who coordinate to suit each person, and I think the songs are wonderful. After all, I think that the lack of motivation of the office and poor promotion are the reasons why it does not work. Even if you keep moving after your debut, the life of an idol is short. I think the offices that can't make the most of their talents are doing something wrong. I've managed to get an album that's out of print now, and I'm working hard to make money for them.

[@ハーブ佐竹]

I'm Japanese Groo. I've been waiting for a while when I saw a video about GWSN on Twitter. Thank you for creating an easy-to-understand video. Everyone is sad because the Japanese fan club has ended due to the influence of Corona and the schedule of activities has not been announced. I hope they can work as soon as possible. (I used a translator. I'm sorry if it's hard to understand.)

[@ごはん-y8z]

日本人だ！ こんなに魅力に溢れたメンバーで大好きなのに、広告に力が入っていないことと公式の動画に字幕が入っていないことが残念です。自分が宣伝しないと！と思って韓国語を勉強し始めましたが、間に合わないんじゃないかと思って泣きそうです。まともな事務所に移籍しないかなぁ…

[@ハーブ佐竹]

@@ごはん-y8z ほんとその通りだと思います！日本語供給とちゃんとした宣伝さえあれば絶対刺さるって人いっぱいいるはずなんですよ。スキルと楽曲はもちろん異彩を放っているミヤさんが日本人っていう親近感もありますし、事務所がちゃんと給料払ってないから逃げられたPDは今Billlieで実力バリバリ発揮してますし…🤔すぐにできる解決手段がないから余計にもどかしいんですよね。なんとか本人たちがいい方向に動けるかどうか見守るしかないという…。

[@inplane9970]

After IZONE's disbandment, I'd be devastated if GWSN disbanded too. I love the elegant concepts that these 2 groups pull off because the entire market is so oversaturated with girl crush and bubblegum pop right now, with huge emphasis on the former. Especially with a B-side bop like Yolowa, their discography is a whole gem.

[@lunarialoonatic]

I recommend IVE

[@usagitsukino8284]

What's after like?

[@emilyconnor3911]

I love this group, I'm so worried. They changed companies, what 3 times? Then the news about the producer came out and they've been pretty silent. I hope their company treats them better.

[@precious8129]

It hurts so much seeing talented people with good music getting screwed by their own companies.

[@CaraTheStrange]

Its sad to see theyve disbanded, hope the girls can salvage their careers

[@WarriorUnknown]

When I first saw their concert in Dallas, Texas back in 2018, they've been my top favorite group ever since. I'm really glad you're covering this! I just cant understand how a group with a fantastic comeback and a great discography get little to no promotion afterwards due to management. The group deserve so much better.

[@infinitesession5439]

You got to see them live!!!!

[@The_Super_NOVA]

It's groups like this that could have benefited so much from being on Queendom 2, but the people in charge had to make wacky choices instead. I would love to see GWSN collab with WJSN on a project with a concept like Puzzle Moon or Save Me, Save You. It's so sad to see how stinky management is bringing such an amazing group down. :(

[@purpleteardropss]

every group on queendom 2 is alright choice but Kepler... i don't understand till this day why are they there. no hate to them ofc

[@The_Super_NOVA]

@@purpleteardropss I could not agree more, but I've been too afraid to say much because people get triggered so easily

[@morphogenetic_]

I discovered GWSN with Like It Hot but it's their b-side I Can't Breathe that completely sucked me in. Seriously, it's so good. I've always felt like they were a little unpopular, so it was a good surprise to learn with this video that they have many fans. It was not a good surprise to learn the actual reason for worry :/ I love billlie too and I've definitely noticed some similarities in the concepts/aesthetics and even the sound, I didn't know the producer went to mystic story, that made a lot of sense! It's horrible they weren't paid when working for GWSN's company. (Also I always pronounce it as "gweh neh sehn" in my head :p)

[@evamariegapulan3510]

Lmao I pronounce it as "jyusn" in my head

[@SweetforS]

I just read the letters

[@jihoonscarat]

EDIT: I had to cut out a small portion of the video, because YG manually claimed me for using their song. (Which btw was fair use but okay) so around the 38:40 minute the video skips slightly ! Sorry about that Thank you all very much for watching! Feel free to tell me your thoughts in the comments and if you want to add any more fun info about the group or the members, go ahead💕 my sources and the people that helped me with this video are linked in the description box!

[@kpopandotherthings6853]

Thank you for the help. I honestly thought they were a subunit of WJSN when I got in to KPOP

[@jihoonscarat]

You’re not the only one 😂 Some people think it’s the same group

[@paninilist4678]

It's crazy because compared to other groups that you have talked about, they are super small and have a small fan base, but the fans are there and they have shown support, but the company seems to be undermining how big GWSN are and how much more they could be. They also stopped producing their older albums as well, TOSOTM is harder to find now too, so how can fans support them if they have nothing to sell?

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

@@paninilist4678 yeah unfortunately I’m scared they’ll just disband

[@paninilist4678]

@@gwenmloveskpopandmore yeah with the lack of communication, I get scared one day I'll see a post on their instagram announcing their disbandment

[@felicityb93]

If you take nothing else away from this video, realize that fan support is not enough to keep groups going. If they have a bad company that can't promote them (or refuses to, in the case of GWSN), they're going to fail. It drives me crazy when people say groups don't last cause they don't have enough fans or that they weren't talented enough (which... you know what, let me keep that thought to myself) when the reality is the company isn't putting any money into them. You can have the best everything, but if your company isn't promoting you, it doesn't fucking matter. For example, LABOUM's Journey to Atlantis went viral a few months after Rollin' did (which I was v excited about because a) Journey to Atlantis is a fun song and b) LABOUM is a group I've been rooting for since forever), but their company did absolutely nothing to take advantage. And, as a result, the shit went nowhere. It's not enough to have a big fan base; you have to have a company worth a damn.

[@venus-phobic9298]

Holy cow! I was hoping you would make a video on these girls I loved them ever since debut and have been worried when I heard there was mismanagement going around I thought I was the only one who was worried!

[@twiceology1019]

These girls have one of the best discographies in 4th generation. Their music is simply exquisite. They deserve everything.

[@shysnow8]

I feel so bad for Gwsn and all the staff members. They all work so hard and aren’t getting what they deserve. I liked Gwsn since their debut and I believe they are really underrated. They deserve more attention and they have really good songs! The concepts are also interesting and they have a unique sound. Idk why their company doesn’t want to promote them. They have potential to be big!

[@cielphantomhive8505]

動画を出して下さってありがとうございます🙇‍♀️ 日本のグルーもGWSNに会える日を夢見て諦めません！！頑張りましょう！

[@choerrysmaid6299]

I've literally been a kpop stan since snsd and i just wanna say that 4th gen groups are a hit or miss, its so hard to find groups with nice discographies, songs that are an easy listen and somehow catchy beats, gwsn provides all those qualities in every single one of their songs.

[@HeavenlyLove47]

they definitely have the best discographies among 4th gen. it’s sad more people don’t listen more. unfortunately this always happens, groups from the big 3 will have more popular songs even if the songs aren’t that good :(

[@hennapoikola8843]

i have been a fan of this group since pre-debut and their songs have always been top tier. I literally don't give a shit about music video production value i just want their company executives to get it together and make some strategies. Also I wonder if miya ever got paid for designing the album covers... This group is so skilled that if they had resources and no existing contracts they could pretty much produce albums themselves. It's such a waste.

[@teeleaf9252]

Ever since becoming a kpop Stan I've learnt so much about the importance of marketing and promotions as well as album sales and the industry treatment towards idols as whole... From companies mistreating and letting down their groups because they did not put in the effort to promote them the way they deserve to be... I got into Gwsn when I got an ad for Bazooka and I was hooked then they disappeared for a while and when Like It Hot came out, I expected the song to do much better then it did, I was waiting to see it on studio choom and several shows that they did not get to go on and I honestly hate when this happens. These women work hard they are talented and so sweet I want them to have the recognition they deserve, I'm really fed up with the mistreatment of idols I wish we could do more but asking questions and trending their names really do help, I'm really glad I came across this video.

[@SleepyRue]

They should really use miya popularity to their advantage like if they promote Miya to like variety shows and become mc for mcountdown etc etc. they will become super popular especially with miya androgynous style and look it's different in kpop so if they push miya to variety shows to promote GWSN i think it would be good for them.

[@sferedog5152]

Wonderboy, Black out, Kind of cool, Yolowa and Melting point are some of my favorite b-sides. They provoke some feels that no other group has. Their discogreaphy is truly top tier.

[@kpopandotherthings6853]

Company: *goes bankrupt* Same company: *makes film*

[@minus2.0arts]

omgggg gwsn is my fave like since i discovered the keys album and wonderboy (aerialist) is the bop! i thought everything okay since their ig still active, lena was in uniform cf, miya got endorse, etc. but i never know their company is totaly upsetting :(

[@Ana-qr8dj]

im like 90% sure that their ceo is just keeping all this money to himself!!!! i hope that their contract runs out soon and that they can move on to another much better company!! i love gwsn so much, theyre all such talented girls and i hope they get much better than this soon!!

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

Thank u for releasing this! I really love their songs like Bazooka (1st song I heard by them), Like it hot, and puzzle moon. It’s a shame all of the crap and shit they went through because of their company.

[@Crying_On_Wheaties]

I'm honestly scared for them! Their company is treating them the way Pledis treated Prestine and New'est. Like the fandom and support is there! Why is it so hard for them to just promote them and get them recognition!? The group would have been so popular by now if the company was consistent.

[@thatchillingeffect]

One of the best discographies in kpop. Period.

[@みぬぬ]

Thank you for having made this video. I’m just typing from Japan. I appreciate your hard work. There is a big movement of trying to be back GWSN on a stage on twitter in Japan though it absolutely doesn’t work. As you know, The wave music, GWSN belongs to a management company, have not issued any proclamations after the come back with Like it hot in May 2021. Official twitter is barely still posted but they are posted their selfies only once a week on average. Save GWSN🌳Keep watching🌳 I hope I can see them on a stage again. Here again, thank you for having made this video🤞

[@avanatorx1637]

Gwsn are one of my ults and I truly pains me to see the miss management of the girls, their music is genuinely some of the best of 4th gen. What I think is that they need to put effort into promoting gwsn on variety shows and channels like studio choom. Promoting them on interview channels, things like "showterview" ect. But who knows if those things will even happen because the company seem to not really care at all. They are all so young and have so much potential they deserve a real chance at what they have put so much work into.

[@beomkyutie1112]

just finished watching the video and it is so well made, thank you so much !! there's something i want say regarding han jungsu and this is no hate to billlie, but i think it really is low of him to practically copy and paste the lore he worked so hard on for gwsn for billlie with barely any changes. it disables gwsn from even continuing down that road, yes he made it but just sucks that things that were synonymous for gwsn like their interesting and long song titles are no longer for them. also in their albums there were things connected to lore etc but it was all gone in the other side of the moon. I just hope people stop comparing the two groups now they know this history since its very bittersweet haha

[@twigtwig2404]

Thank you so much for this video, I discovered gwsn during bazooka era and became a fan, but fell off when they stopped putting english subs on their youtube vids. (I would do anything for subtitles on their videos again I genuinely enjoyed them so much) Blew my mind when in Like It Hot there was a whole other member that just hadn't been mentioned. Hope the company steps up or the girls can start other projects we can support them on.

[@sunnybear178]

I knew there was a reason I felt Billlie was familiar. That actually kind of sucks because GWSN really did have a distinct image and some really good songs, unfortunately people tend to forget that that every industry has a business to it and that clearly was the change here. I really hope people don’t just amount this change to just “blame the new girl group” like it’s literally a business room situation. This is a common thing that happens in most music industry across the world, with that being said the company just didn’t try to fill that hole and are the only ones responsible for GWSN’s decent. Hopefully, they can find a way because they’ve shown they’re capable to grabbing attention.

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

Yeah reminds me of MLD Stans blaming Lapillus and TFN/T1419 when it’s not even their fault

[@GIRLYISMS]

When I tell you pinky star was one of my top listened songs of 2021….it’s amazing, the fact that their company isn’t using this amazing music well to promote is ridiculous.

[@nale15]

I think the company is the main problem here. I hope the higher ups in the company changes and better people are employed. 😯😯 The group is so talented but companies always ruin their talent.

[@jihoonscarat]

Absolutely!

[@sunghengchan6050]

Please they're so underrated and their stroyline so beautiful hope they got a chance to join competition show like Queendom 🙏😭

[@lys8779]

Thank you for this video! Thank you especially for going in depth about Soso's hiatus, the Like It Hot promotional/album/inclusion/printing issues, the staff payment issues, etc because I feel a lot of people who have heard of #savegwsn don't actually know these details. I've been a groo from debut and it's been devastating seeing how promotions and management have declined drastically over time, and Ive honestly lost hope at them becoming bigger at this point I just want them to be active and happy :(((

[@cassie721]

Another song I would recommend is Night Aviation, I feel like I'm freaking floating whenever I listen to this song 😍

[@jihoonscarat]

such a great song!

[@groocement9061]

動画を出してくれてありがとうございます😭こういう動画を見て色んな人にGWSNのことを知ってもらえたら嬉しいです。

[@Ash2theB]

When companies file bankruptcy usual the company will either find a new company to take on their assets or the old business creates a new business or subsidiary to move assets over from latter so they don’t get confused during the liquidation of the old company. Also you need a lot more money than what they raised even if it was just for their well being or to pay off debts from production and management of the girls.

[@amendozap]

the "thoughtless use of foreign words" just reminds me how BIBI had to censor the word "Kireidatte" (japanese for "pretty") on her song BINU on several live performances despite the song also saying NAKED several times with no issue lol

[@onlylaboum]

Swin Lee? omg. he often produces for LABOUM, my favourite girl group. i vaguely remember that he produced for GWSN but didn't know that this happened. damn.

[@Fallphoenix18]

I discovered GWSN in 2020 on the day they released Bazooka, and to this day its my favourite song of all time. Imagined how I felt when I discovered just how terrible their company was :( #savegwsn

[@sabrinaleedance]

Puzzle moon and Bazooka are life changing songs to me.they trasncend me to a higher realm , im sad of how they ended uo but happy the girls are finally free

[@polzzza]

That moment when I started stanning Billlie because they somehow reminded me of GWSN because of their cool magical concept with a mysterious storyline... I stan both of the groups, they are my ults, this is so sad, really 😭💔

[@fitrishamsur436]

omg samee, im really shocked when im listening to billlie's bside and they remind me a lot of GWSN. TT TT i hope GWSN can comeback

[@basma7806]

as a casual listener the producer change was really obvious to my ears (casual as in i know all their songs LMAO im j not a proper fan) and disappointed me but god only if i knew how horrible it was for them. Someone please save them from this company wtf is this president like who goes on vacation and say IM STRESSED LEAVE ME ALONE when u havent paid ANYONE for their work. LIKE DUDE PAY UR WORKERS TF?? WHY R U SPENDING THEIR PAYCHECKS ON UR VACATION

[@kaleidoscopekingdom]

I super appreciate this video. Wow 😣 this info is so hard and hurting to hear. I mean children could have managed them better. I keep seeing this in kpop so I don't get too invested in smaller groups because they disappeared soon as I get attached to them then the back story is so tragic they become more heroes than idols to me. Again thanks for the video and keep posting about what's new with gwsn. Peace ✌️

[@alanamileras2329]

I really wish MNet had done "Road to Queendom 2"-GWSN and several that MNet scr3ew33d over like FANATICS, Cherry Bullet, Natvre, probably Natty as a soloist [in "Idol School", "SIXTEEN"], as well as larger groups like Weki Meki, , maybe a 2 member CLC sub-unit since all but 3 are gone and Yujin is temporarily in Kep1er (doubtful, I know...), Everglow (since they're unknown in Korea), Dreamcatcher (since they don't have a win yet, somehow), Weeekly, Lightsum, Billlie, etc. could have really used it. I don't know why MNet opted out of it this year (probably because the ratings from the boys' RTK version weren't good?), but in order to cleanse their reputation and bring goodwill from viewers, it would have been smart for this reason.

[@02puwina]

yujin is only in kep1er temporarily? man wth): how long is she staying?

[@yeeunlatte]

GWSN deserves so much better. I love their sound and concept and their music (especially their bsides) is so good

[@mavenism]

i love gwsn sm but i'm worried rn because of their management..

[@jihoonscarat]

Absolutely same here. They have SO MUCH talent and potential

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

@@jihoonscarat but it could all be ruined because of their company 😔😭💔

[@NH-ns3ut]

They have a great discography, their bsides are awesome and this sucks cuz they aren't famous because they aren't from a big company. I hate this new system that only lets groupd from big companies become popular

[@intellectualhumour]

I'm so worried about their future. the group is talented. Their company is doing a bad job managing them. Hopefully this situation can be resolved soon.

[@miwami.]

I really hope these beautiful girls get justice. God, my heart actually feels so happy when I see them and their music LITERALLY heals me and makes me so happy... I love them so much and I hope they can escape TWM tbh 😭 For now, us groos will stay strong and wait patiently for their next comeback 💕

[@ari_bear_]

Thank you so much for making this video! I had no idea what has been happening. I did follow GWSN since their debut but drifted off from kpop after 'Red Sun' was released (have to focus on uni stuff T^T). Honestly, they are very talented and hard-working, they have the potential to become big!

[@fromisgunner]

Such a sad situation. This group needs to be acquired by a subsidiary of a big entertainment company. They simply need funds. They got 2 top tier legitimate vocalists in KPOP, a chick magnet, difficult but pleasing to the eye choreo and criminally underrated discography.

[@jihoonscarat]

Well that’s the thing, they are connected to HUGE companies with a lot of money. So why is no money going to them

[@fromisgunner]

@@jihoonscarat ​ they had big budget MV's and stages till Red Sun tho. Honestly, I think the guy who started the group had a great vision but piss poor execution and made poor decisions along the way. After digging in a bit, he seems to be more of a creative director than a someone you can trust to make smart CEO decisions. That, or this whole thing could be an elaborate money laundering scheme. Just frustrated as hell cuz this group had crazy potential!

[@mirachan9217]

Your enunciation is getting much better. I’m glad. Sometimes I can’t understand what you’re saying ;-; I’m happy to see you continue to improve. I love your videos regardless. Keep up the good work and thank you for your efforts.

[@mattevans6752]

This video is secretly an incredible GWSN guide. I learned a whole lot!

[@jihoonscarat]

I’m glad you did !

[@ZootedKitty]

I've casually listened and followed this group through the years. It makes me so sad to see them in the position and state they are currently in. I can tell they love doing what they do and they really work so hard. Their discography is so solid and the art for their albums is always so stunning. This group doesn't seem like one a company should give up on. They are passionate and so are the fans. I really hope that they can get the help they need and that Groos get answers.

[@keumjo]

Thank you so much for doing a video on them! It's a great way to have more people to be more aware of their awful situation at their current company. GWSN is such an amazing group with a such a flawless discography, and it's such a waste how their company is treating them right now.

[@visforvicky]

GWSN is my favorite girl group and The park in the night: pt. 3 is my favorite kpop album like EVER, an i've been a kpop fan since 2009 ;_; It really is heartbreaking seeing them in this situation specially because we as fans can't do anything to help. At this point we tried with increasing album sales, mass e-mails, trending hashtags but the communicaction with the company is just horrible. I imagine that if they're not paying their producers and employees then the girls aren't receveing money either which is so sad since we know how much effort they've put into everything. Their music is so amazing and i haven't found anywhere else a group that is a consistent as them with just putting out EXCELLENT albums but their future seems dark if the company doesn't act quick. All we need is a little push, maybe if MNET had donde Road to Queendom again it would've been an amazing opportunity for them, but even just simple stuff as adding eng subs or creatin more content for fans, anything will help. From the 4th gen another group i stan is Stayc and in their case I feel like their company has done exactly the opposite as kiwi/miles/the wave which is putting a lot of content consistently.

[@jinchihoshi5910]

I wished they actually went to queendom 2 it would help out so much like SO MUCH even though it’s ment but still getting into a show where so many people are watching sense the first queendom it’s helping even groups like wjsn who is on the show getting more people into them loona too with even their fandom being bigger than others internationally it can help them gain more in Korea as well this show could of helped gwsn BUTT noOo it’s that stupid “having to have at least one win” rule I heard they had or something like that and it’s SUCKS because groups like gwsn, Billie, purple kiss groups who are rookies could of been on this show to show that they have it and giving it all

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

6 months later and the news broke out that their company is closing and they’re disbanding (although nothing is officially confirmed) sad :(

[@precioustomiya]

I've already said it many times but thank you for making this video! I know you've worked hard on it, there is a lot of specific and complicated info so I thank you for sharing it so people know what is going on with them. Hopefully this will at least increase GWSN's fanbase even a little bit and make it easier to spread any more issues that come up about this company! Thank you AGAIN this means a lot to every single groo currently struggling with this situation 🌱💕

[@jihoonscarat]

I’m so glad I could use my channel to address the situation because these girls deserve so much more 🥺 thank you’d for your support and help 💕💕💕🌱

[@precioustomiya]

You're welcome, it's the least I could do! 💕🌱

[@K-MasterGirl]

Did I just spend nearly an hour watching a video about things I already knew? Hell yea and I’ll do it again!!!

[@kirbyloverrr7]

Thank you so much for making such an informative and thoughtful video, seriously, this situation is so unfortunate. I’ve been a groo for a year and it just makes me so sad to know that it’s not even because they lack fans or support, it’s because of their company. I’m trying to stay positive and not let it affect me but I really wish we could make a big impact so that the company AT LEAST becomes more open about the situation and communicate more with us. These girls are so passionate, they are literally like sunshine, they bring happiness in so many peoples lives, they deserve SO much better than that. The people who worked in the company and didn’t get payed also deserve much better. As groos, we’re trying our best to help with the little we can do, so thank you for contributing with this video that hopefully will reach many people!!!

[@Kokola-qh9wp]

If the company didn't even pay the producer I'm sure they didn't even pay the idols :( I feel so bad for them, they're being extremely mismanaged :(

[@jihoonscarat]

Oh most definitely they weren’t. Since most companies have the “brake even” contracts, the members probably owe the company

[@aprils1888]

I lately see so many of these save #'s. Besides GWSN, I also saw them a lot with groups like HOT ISSUE & G-REYISH... the nugu girl groups are not doing so well receantly, I fear.

[@clarysage1298]

i don’t know much about gwsn besides what was said in this video, so if i’m misunderstanding let me know, but a big part of me wonders where the money for their comebacks is going. with so many unexpected sales for albums and a comeback fully funded by fans, it can’t all have gone to covering previous costs right? especially if the staff, producers, and most likely members aren’t being paid.. the only person left is the ceo. what the hell is this guy doing with their money?

[@akeothi1190]

By the looks of it from the leaked phone conversation- it appears to be going towards their vacation time 🙄

[@CandaceInColor]

@@akeothi1190 leaked phone conversations?

[@aprils1888]

No but like there has to be something about gathering funds on makestar, like something fans don't know about, which makes the whole process less appealing for companies. Because like, if it was actually as good as it seems, wouldn't every group use makestar and have multiple comebacks a year. Even nugu groups like S.I.S were able to get all the money they needed in one day. So why don't companies use it. Lately, if a groups hadnt had a comeback in a while, I just start spamming their comment sections with makestar. I had to wrote like 100 comments to MAKA MAKA by now xd

[@2vlyyy]

im a newer fan, i've probably only been stanning them about a month now but, they are one of the most talented groups i like. their concept is crazy good, the styling always top tier, their choreography is amazing, the girls are all incredibly talented vocalists and rapper. they are really great all-round so its so upsetting to hear about how terrible their company has been. i'm gonna continue to support them online seeing as they are becoming my ults even after such a short period of stanning. hopefully their situation gets enough attention and their company does something

[@its_myo]

aaaand you were right. 💀

[@shrimpified4413]

The man went on vacation with the staffs money.. the staff should sue the man for not giving them the money they signed up on

[@travelerscramine3828]

omg that so fuck up. I feel bad for the staff and gwsn

[@shrimpified4413]

@@travelerscramine3828 it's not true but I feel like he would do that because he said "im on vacation" on the dms while the staff was begging for their payment

[@travelerscramine3828]

@@shrimpified4413 yo, i think its real😧

[@shrimpified4413]

@@travelerscramine3828 could be, we will never know 😳

[@Serena-Vanderwoodsen]

Aw you uploaded!! 😭 I’m listening to this whilst doing my uni work. Thank you for another long ass video, I appreciate it very much 💙

[@leahlecomte3301]

i really hope this group stays for a long time and gets more promotion in the future, i absolutely love love love the music literally every track they've put out is amazing but i feel like i never hear from them ever

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

It’s easier to call them Girls In The Park better than GWSN in order to not be confused

[@gabrielnalom4930]

Thank you for making a video about them!! Ive been getting really into them recently. And their discography is definetly one of my favorites. So i very glad you covered their situation

[@user-zf1bw3fv4n]

I miss GWSN so much.......

[@seungsluvv]

Fist of all I love your videos and thank you so much for taking so much time making the videos. I think that especially when you’re a small company the fans should be the closest to you. I don’t get why so many artists and companies go completely MIA when they have problems instead of informing the fans maybe they can even help. Like just tell us what you need or what your problem is and we can find a solution. Every GWSN member is so talented and it’s quite rare seeing them getting involved in their own releases like that. We saw so many groups go down bc of the lack of infos and desperately waiting fans for updates but it never came. Why can’t at least one company do it right? 😭 maybe they can go busking again or upload more yt videos, I don’t want to see them not get what they deserve

[@LeafAnnie]

Love the video, always interesting to learn about the darker sides of Kpop. I think it would be interesting to see an update video though, like a big video for most, or all, groups you’ve done videos about, like a “why I’m still worried about x groups”

[@jihoonscarat]

That could be interesting 🤔 I’ll look into making one of those ❤️

[@limnaee1812]

I remember when I was casual kpop listener years ago and saw their busking videos of bts etc and I thought oh cool dances haha and I like the girl with short hair. I didn't know they were a kpop group or anything

[@jhm2732]

I hope they comeback even if it's with a single album if they cannot afford a mini, it's better than keeping them on hiatus for a long time. Also, MVs can look good without that much budget if groups like ICHILLIN or LABOUM can do it, why not them? It just seems like their company is preparing for another group to debut so they won't "waste" more money on them and its sad, kinda like what happened with Momoland, who got Yummy Yummy Love because of Natty Natasha's offer for a collab

[@cosmixexy]

I don't know if it's okay to say this.... But i ain't supporting the new group at all

[@HeavenlyLove47]

@@cosmixexy i don’t see why the company thinks their new group would do any better…if anything fans will be disappointed the company is ignoring gwsn and just not support the new group. smh these companies man

[@cosmixexy]

@@HeavenlyLove47 for real. Like. Do you people have marketing team?

[@elliemariepark]

This channel is always worried hope she's okay

[@whatever9097]

I’m so glad you’re talking about them! I really like GWSN and I’ve been worried about them for awhile.

[@HorrorHound87]

I was watching your videos the previous night and today so I feel very fortunate to catch your new video on GWSN , Jihoons 😊 and I've subbed to the GWSN fan support account on Twitter retweeting your video upload. Thanks to you I now have ANOTHER K-Pop group I'll support and enjoy 🇰🇷🕺🥰😎✌️

[@Mashka14]

Informative and Fascinating video on a talented girl group who had the potential to be really successful but unfortunately these girls had a lot of issues within the company and with the staff as well.

[@najmaht.a.1314]

I stanned them since debut I’m crying rn 😭😭

[@jennaeveliina313]

All of this listed here doesnt look good.. It doesnt matter ever if the group is overflowing talent and capability, if the managment and the head of the company is rotten.. to this looks like the company is in deep trouble and as much as we all can see the girls potential, the company it self might not survive, not with these kinds of leading skills.. this is truly heartbreaking..😒😔

[@gwenmloveskpopandmore]

Yeah In 2018 they were doing pretty well for an underrated group even being nominated for many rookie awards. But then everything went downhill.

[@siennahartle9069]

This group has a flawless discography. Like it Hot was one of my top ten songs of 2021. I really hope they’ll be ok

[@jkumo6563]

The park in the night pt 3 is my favorite Kpop album of all time. I've always held on hope for another comeback with a flawless album like they always do, but as time goes by I begin to lose hope :/ It pissess me off how incomptent their company is. How hard is it for them to grab a phone and post a statement on social media about the situation of the group? I'll wait patiently for more of gwsn