Saving Anthony & Delilah | Dead Presidents Alternate Ending

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Was Anthony being a deadbeat father before he finally came home to Juanita and his daughter?

[@curtis75black]

No !!

[@cocojames4486]

YES

[@asialynn6670]

Yes ‼️

[@queenscarlettpimpsunkiss..5537]

Yups. Plus his pattern makes me wonder if Anthony would've went thee extra mile to provide if Cutty hadnt been involved.. it seems like.. similar to Earn from ATLANTA (series).. Earn would often only try to be a 'Man' when another Man was being a Man for his woman. &/Or when he felt like he was about to lose her.. it wasnt about protecting and providing for the woman and his child who he loves.. but out of Pride & Ego & To Impress other Men.. And that's the same thing i got from Anthony..

[@atiashaunbaker3792]

No he wasnt . he was at war .. What could he do??

[@edouble30083]

As a former war vet myself, I understood why Anthony didn’t write his family. On the surface to those who had not been exposed to the dynamics of a combat theater, he was selfish, inconsiderate, and cold hearted. Some would say that he could’ve wrote his family since he kept in touch with Kirby. Thing was he never had a connection to his girl and their baby as a family unit. All the while he was in war, the concept of being a father was a foreign thought that never entered into his mind. He chose not to distract himself by an imaginary house with a picket fence with a baby he had never seen, and a woman he barely knew. Writing Kirby was his outlet to relief all of the atrocities of war that he was surrounded by. Kirby, himself, was a Korean War veteran. Anthony knew that Kirby knew all the bullshit he was going through. Now to why he didn’t write his father, who was a former marine, I believe that he didn’t develop that type of relationship with him so he could open up to him. OAN, Cutty was in it for the cutty, lol! He wanted to show he had pull over Juanita, even if Anthony had moved in. The moment she took his money the second time, she showed Anthony what was up. Ptsd, unemployment, an ungrateful partner, and being black in a racist society, will make a dog snap the f@&# up. Heavy external pressures pounding down on the delicate mental is a hell only a few can make it out unscathed. I don’t condone Anthony’s means to an end, but I can’t knock the shit either

[@Native5]

I know, I'm a Vet myself. It was hard coming back.

[@edouble30083]

@@Native5 thank you for your service

[@TchallaKilmonger]

Vet here, I can definitely relate, still not adjusted completely, thank you both for hour service@edouble30083

[@w3stcoastallstar636]

🎯🎯🎯

[@jaquicenasheed7374]

Greatly worded brother

[@breyuna]

Anthony shouldn’t have pursued Juanita anymore once he wasn’t able to get over her and Cutty. He honestly despised her. Anthony just thought it was the “right “ thing but that flame was gone.

[@vikkidc3859]

Actually, Juanita pursued him. Anthony told her multiple times before he left and when he came back to move on. She wanted them to be together and he was hesitant. But they're young and it was the 70s so they were both trying to do "right"

[@purplebanana6420]

Facts she wasn't no good for him she constantly demasculated him and she pressed him way top much and didn't show no care for him

[@Westnile8501]

I mean I'm inclined to agree with you except for the fact he Ant wasn't the person having problems " getting over cutty " as Anthony would show up to their shared family apt and witness him exiting. So ....nice try but it was Jaunita that was the saboteur of what little relationship they had left.

[@rjhikups78]

​@@Westnile8501I literally just read a comment saying that Juanita 'deserved' better. We don't even know this girl beyond her being a young high school girl by the time Anthony comes back. We really weren't provided an honest look at her personality and mindset at any time in the movie other than the way she handled the Cutty situation.

[@jsmacks11]

it wasn't until the second time Anthony really flipped. He was upset when he first found out but she explained with him on why she did it, and while Anthony didn't like it, I think deep down he understood and accepted that. She shouldn't have asked him for money though once Anthony was home. She could have kept applying pressure to Anthony to get a better job and I think he would have tried to find a way the best he could. Dude wasn't out the military that long anyways. I just think he needed some time.

[@doowopsoprano9867]

I always wondered at the end when Juanita was crying after the sentence, what it was about? Was she crying like "Omg what am I gonna do now?" Or was it more that she was crying in regret for pushing him to do this which led to him going to prison & her sister being killed? I really wanna know what she was thinkin' at that exact moment.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Maybe she was thinking, "My sister is dead and now the man I love is going to prison for 15 years to life."

[@doowopsoprano9867]

I actually believe that she felt regret & grief over her sister's death & him doing what he did & ending up in prison. This whole story was very tragic in every sense of the term.

[@karenmarsh6396]

Some people DO actually care about the person they have children with, it's pretty natural...what's to wonder about??

[@Supremmo]

@@karenmarsh6396 They just have a weird way of showing it.

[@mercermercepanama6334]

I always thought Juanita crying at the end of Dead Presidents was out of guilt. She was probably thinking "If I wasn't on him so hard about not having a job, he wouldn't have resorted to robbing to get money".

[@Supremmo]

I think Deliah would've went the way of Assata Shakur and did a robbery. During that time, revolutionary groups were pulling off heist. Maybe Anthony should've joined the police force or the postal service. I read that the Police Department during that time in New York were looking for Vets to join their ranks. As for Anthony and Juanita, as a guy sometimes we end up getting with the wrong woman and the right one was close by the whole time. We all fall to the blindspot.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Delilah was young and impressionable. Who knows what she might have become. Maybe she would have done a heist, but hopefully she would have chosen better partners.

[@LSTORMTheMC]

Delilah was definitely the better sister. Always felt that way

[@shaqulclayton6668]

I highly doubt he would have joined the police force, his Biggest influence on the whole movie (Kirby) was functioning in the criminal underground. He would have had to go against that Completely.

[@khaldounelbey3968]

Let's remember $200.00 in 1973 is the equivalent of over $1300.00 today. If he was tearing her off like that on the regular Juanita could have got herself out of that apartment.

[@rjhikups78]

Let's keep it real. That was for favors......and the 200 was to stunt in Anthony's face. Let's not make Cutty look like some stand up guy. He was buying p.....simple and plain.

[@notplaying]

Then that tells you that he wasn't hitting her off like that

[@EtoTheKay]

​@@rjhikups78To be fair there's no evidence to suggest she was still sleeping with Cutty AFTER Anthony's return home. Yeah, she was still taking money from him for obvious reasons, but I don't think they were smashing.

[@callawaymccord9368]

@@EtoTheKayI honestly believe cutty was pimping Juanita.

[@EtoTheKay]

@@callawaymccord9368 lol stop he wasn't pimping Juanita

[@ramseyabdul1873]

Thank you, guys. This channel is so great. I swear, when it comes to black films, people do not discuss them as deeply as you guys do .... Normally, people just give you the rundown of all that happens in black films but they never dive as deep into it as you guys do, with analysis and theories. I really appreciate you guys and this channel.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thanks so much for your kind words!

[@jsmacks11]

I think this was a Technical flaw in the movie that Anthony came back essentially broke. He explained he didn't develop any habits (Drugs, Sex, Gambling) while in the military. What did he spend his money on? The movie implied that he essentially returned home broke. He bought some clothes (which he probably needed anyways). If he returned back with money, they would be less likely to rob a truck.

[@TanieBaker]

Hmmm interesting theory. It could be a great possibility. Delilah had a calmness about her that may have complimented his transition back into civilian life. They had great chemistry.

[@MsSoul168]

Anthony didn't take full advantage of his post military benefits, the G.I. Bill, the VA hospital. I thought that Anthony could've stayed in the military and went to school, then married Juanita and gotten a house for her and Sarah because he qualified for a VA home loan. There were options for Anthony, so he definitely didn't need to rob that bank truck!!

[@Supremmo]

Good point. I forgot all about that.

[@msfancy6622]

Right!!!!! Even the crack head had enough sense to get his VA bag🤣

[@thestrengthreport7517]

As someone who has Military family members that served in Vietnam. The G.I Bill and military loans weren’t always optional to vets especially black vets like how it is today. I’ve heard stories of how they would purposely dis-honorably discharge people for the sake of not acquiring loans or pulling a medical. Many wounded Vietnam vets came home with no coverages or aid. Some even ended up homeless on the street or worse dead. You can’t take the modern military era and apply it to the time period back then. It doesn’t work that way.

[@mercermercepanama6334]

Damn, I never thought about that! Excellent point!

[@ThatGuy-zt6po]

Yes which is why many struggled with how realistic or unrealistic this movie was. I love it but really. Anthony had a Dad who was a successful Marine who knew how to get it done post military, and he never bothered to sit down with his Dad once and ask him how he figured things out after Korea? Come on.

[@TiaSloane]

I think he should’ve told his family so they could’ve looked out for his daughter and Juanita while he was away …. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yes Nashette!!!! You know his Mama would have looked out for that baby!

[@Nevaeh1]

they didn't even show his daughter or Juanita coming around his family after he got back

[@thestrengthreport7517]

He could have but back in them days it wasn’t uncommon for young adults to start a family and go through the struggle on their own. That was common for black families during that time period. Once you left your parents house you were an adult with your own priorities.

[@paschallhouston]

Him and Delilah would have got along perfect. He was impressed to see her at the Black Panther gathering with her speaking. Not going to pretend I know about that party or movement. But Anthony seen her as a soilder and that is what the Panthers look and train like. That is why he felt comfortable telling her about their robbery plan and knew she would not say anything to law enforcement being a Panther member.

[@Ilevakamcoop]

That kiss she gave him he should of hit lol

[@taneska1]

I think he should've move in with his parents upon returning home...bc basically he's a stranger to the daughter...in addition both he and Juanita are different ppl...help support daughter financially and spend time with her but Gradually come into their lives, that would've given them a chance to see what they both really want

[@blacknbougie8021]

I listened to the rest when I got off & on my home I was thinking "this is a bad azz channel." The breakdowns, the theories, yall perspectives are just eye opening & entertaining af😁. This THE BEST MOVIE REVIEW CHANNEL ON KZbin - PERIOD. #needdeadpresidents

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thank you so much!!!!

[@blacknbougie8021]

@@AxiomAmnesia can yall pretty please review Tales From The Hood?🙏🏽😫? (The original of course). I'm sure yall already have a line up but I'll wait patiently.....idc how long it takes. Just thinking about what yall gon say, gives me the chills.

[@davidrankin9874]

What about Anthony serving his country to protect its freedom? I know Vietnam wasn’t the war that garnered that kind of respect and admiration. This movie depicts all the harsh realities Vietnam veterans faced after serving their country, especially Black vets.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

What does his service have to do with his being a father and possibly husband?

[@pappagetti]

This movie resonated with it's young mid 90's audiences for good reason: THERE ARE NO HAPPY ENDING FOR US. That's how we saw it. Even the movie Friday (A comedy) was a blink away from being tragedy.

[@WestsidePiFF]

It makes my day/night when you guys release a video. Always great content and commentary.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Wow, thank you!

[@savel-oe3lx]

​@@AxiomAmnesia kid N:Bushes is sooo sexy!! I love her as a PANTHER!! Ulta Adorable

[@donellwilliams715]

Where Anthony found out that Juanita was pregnant he should have sent some money or told his sergeant that you know the deal

[@marvinwhittaker]

Everyone should've gotten their fair share of the money. Delilah share should've been donated to the revolution cause. I believe they should've gotten someone from Delilah crew to have been a lookout instead of Cleon.

[@BeatsByGamer86]

Giving Delilahs cut to her organization sounds perfect.

[@txsizesmile1]

Honestly I was disturbed by y'all video on Boyz in the hood and the concept of Furious being Doughboy's dad. I called myself hate watching since then but Honestly I'm a fan now. Y'all analyze these classic movies with a fresh perspective and encourage thinking outside the box! I'm now an official subscribed fan. Keep up the good work!

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Lisa, thanks so much for giving us a chance. We weren't lying when we said that we loved these movies. :-)

[@2Pavo]

I would’ve loved a happy ending but I think the problem with Anthony was he was a follower & looked up to others too much. Going to war because of Kirby & doing the bank heist because of outside forces.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

This part! Anthony did have good influences all around him as well. but he chose to ignore their paths and did what he wanted to do...

[@EarleWilsonEarle_Street]

18:01 “The MoFo this side of Nicky Barnes, my boss man Cutty.” He ran smack operation in The Bronx. Growing up, I constantly heard stories about my father before he enlisted in 1980 from his aunts, friends, and parents. For two years I lived with his mother (my nana). Before that all I knew of him was Marine Corps. I thought our family was rich. I barely knew any extended family due to my parents being stationed overseas. So at 11 I begin learning my father was a player during the seventies. First time I watched “Superfly” he told me how that movie inspired him to sell drugs. He once told me cats were different back then. Players had wives, and a girlfriend or two. With that said, I think Cutty did that. Put the wife in a house in the burbs, then kept his distance to shield his family from the consequences of his playing the smack game.

[@breyuna]

Anthony was fresh out of highschool and trying to impress his parents and people of the community that look at him as weaker like the man at the pool hall ( Terrance Howard), and with all that he has blinders on and when they came off he was basically not at all the man or in the position he wanted to be in.

[@reynamc8880]

My grandfather was from Philadelphia and he talks about jointing the army and for several years refusing to even go back to visit because he was just so afraid that something bad could happen while he was there that would mess up his career. He built up so much leave they forced him to go on leave once and told he them he didn’t want to go because he didn’t want to go back to Philadelphia and that was the first time they explained to him that he could take leave and go anywhere he wanted and he didn’t have to go back. He always says the army saved his life.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

❤️

[@kocainekobe]

I’ve come to the conclusion that Anthony had the right plan but the wrong target. I woulda killed two birds with one stone and robbed CUTTY! 😂 especially after that run in on the stairs, Forget what Jose was talkin about. They probably wouldn’t have even needed Cleon and could’ve got away clean😂🤷🏾‍♂️ great video as always!👏🏾 Keep ‘em comin!

[@StylzGTNT]

Hmm, never thought about that

[@loucypherdamorningstar]

People like Cutty don’t actually have money. They just have access to the flow of money in the underworld, so they can pick off some here and there.

[@kocainekobe]

@@loucypherdamorningstar Idk he had Cowboy(Terrence Howard) workin for him and he said Cutty was the biggest pusher “this side of Nicky Barnes” that means he had access to drugs and money in large enough amounts to have workers braggin🤷🏾‍♂️ either way it was a good excuse to get rid of Cutty and get a bag. Better than trying to take an armored truck🤦🏾‍♂️Maybe Anthony and Juanita could’ve got outta town afterwards🤷🏾‍♂️ just a theory

[@loucypherdamorningstar]

@@kocainekobe Good catch. I forgot he claimed that.

[@rjhikups78]

​@@kocainekobelet's not act like cowboy was the only member of his crew......we don't know how connected Cutty was. It wasn't necessary to develop his character for the movie

[@theorderofthebees7308]

I think the issue Anthony had was how he defined his masculinity . He was always looking to be what a man was supposed to be what he thought that was - One way he could have avoided that bus was actually Marrying Juanita that way she could have gotten some military benefits and wouldn’t have been dependent and vulnerable to men like Cutty. He would have had a support system . And perhaps she would have had a better understanding of him because essentially when they got together they were strangers essentially to each other

[@AltRightMustDie]

Why do BW always try to define masculinity??? it makes no sense.

[@ladygemini5967]

I love this channel you two keep me questioning these movies…And I love it

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thanks and that's what we love about these movies! They keep us all thinking!

[@goodlife8044]

I don’t think Cutty was a pimp, I think he was a hustler/ drug dealer.

[@a-train3503]

Yes, that makes sense

[@EDifyer881]

he was only a pimp on Fridays lol

[@a-train3503]

@@EDifyer881 That was his little brother "Pinky"

[@EDifyer881]

@@a-train3503 yes you're right lol

[@a-train3503]

@@EDifyer881 lol, thanks, Pinky and Cutty both say "Young blood when they mad

[@cherylsaliens5451]

I'm so very glad that u guys dove into this film, most of it is based on the book "BLOODS" 1st hand accounts of how different the Vietnam era was for blacks and defined non whites whether drafted or volunteered. While working on my BA history degree this was going to become my thesis post BA into Military Master's my prof wanted me to 'deep dive' even deeper than in Historograpical sources throughout TX and the southern states, families and the VA hospital system. You guys would finish BLOODS in a a couple days it's that engrossing, its also on kindle audio style. Unfortunately ANTHONY in so many ways is my uncle but with addiction, he volunteered after graduation of Industrial Engineering BS and was the oldest &only son, so he was deferred automatically but wanted to go? Complicated Black males who want the excitement of the streets sex drugs and nonconforming behaviors which usually equate into a lack of motivational morality & gender dominance as we saw with Juanita and the Cutty'Cuddy situation.

[@Pacmon0]

Great point. Gotta read Bloods. I came so close to going, but we were not trying to win the war so I taught school for deferment. So if in general, soldiers not treated as heroes, evne worse for Black soldiers given the era. On the other hand, as a vet Anthony can get a job with NYPD.

[@candicecarter405]

She didn’t go to the parents because they were sneaking. She was sneaking with him but never brought to the house like a high school sweetheart. She didn’t have a relationship with his parents to go to them

[@donjuan3793]

There was nothing to keep Anthony off that bus he felt like in his mind that was the best choice where they did mess up is taking cleon on the mission 😂😂😂

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Okay, but Joe was a hot mess too! LOL

[@donjuan3793]

@@AxiomAmnesia lol but joe ended up dying and cleon snitch on everybody

[@darryllittle7705]

@@AxiomAmnesia but it was Jo idea and plus he was the only 1 in the group with the knowledge to build a lethal explosive

[@rjhikups78]

​@@donjuan3793Joe dying is sad but had nothing to do with them getting CAUGHT. Although it added to his sentence, Cleon and his testimony ultimately got him bagged. Should have 1) not included him, or 2) let Kirby snuff him🤷🏽‍♂️

[@EtoTheKay]

​@@rjhikups781 or 2, yes. But the easiest option is 3. Get the hell outta town the second you got the money!

[@theorderofthebees7308]

Side note - Everytime I see the scene with Anthony giving out Christmas gift - and you see the kids jumping on the mattress, I always think - look at Hip Hop being born

[@EtoTheKay]

Everytime I see that scene I'm like wtf they doing in the hood giving out toys when they should be in Mexico by now!

[@bigcartoonyIIV]

Curtis Mayfield song back to the world seems like it was anthony's life story. I think Anthony messed up ever since the beginning of the movie. His Gf was annoying. He should have went with delilah. Kirby was a bad influence, and seemed cool. Why Anthony didnt get a check for his service? Anthony biggest mistake was going find jaunita, and her putting him under extra pressure, and cutty tapping that a*** ..lol Skip purposely ODed. Skip got addicted in nam. My cousin's dad was a Skip. Cutty was a dope dealer, and juanita was a 304,

[@AxiomAmnesia]

You said a whole lot right there! LOL

[@marqueswilliams345]

Cutty was a drug dealer not a pimp I think Cutty dressed like that because it was the 70s

[@Gigglingsiren]

He should have stayed with his parents longer. I think his father would've been good source of wisdom on how to move going forward.

[@First2lineup]

One thing Anthony should have done before he tried to robb the armored truck he should have went back found Cutty and beat his ass.

[@mercermercepanama6334]

Yes, definitely. I wanted Anthony to get payback on Cutty so bad! Cutty was a disrespectful piece of s**t!

[@davidsims5796]

I agree

[@Truthtella]

Just wanted to point something out are the military. It didn't matter that he didn't marry her because he could have added the baby to his dependence status later and recieved the back pay from the time she was born. Its dependency pay not marriage pay.

[@kingarthur1728]

Just got off work & this video is a great way to start my relaxation! 💯💙

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Perfect and thanks for watching! :-)

[@asiasmith8090]

Chileee this is my favorite movie so it’s near and dear to my heart. I think Juanita was crying because she lost her best friends one being her high school sweetheart, and the other being her sister. From what we seen in the movie her and Delilah had a good relationship. It was always weird that Anthony kind of flirted with Delilah. But that’s just me. He also couldn’t adapt well when he came out of the war out he was even more confused than before. I feel what Delilah was talking about as far as being part of the black panther movement soothed Anthony because of what they stood for, and Anthony felt that he was done wrong by America or the Man. Versus Juanita, the mother of his kids she’s working as a nurse’s aid and she’s the breadwinner and has been footing the bill since graduation. Where Delilah has no responsibilities. Also, Anthony needed to seek help and Anthony never did seek help to heal from trauma. They never actually got a real chance to be boyfriend and girlfriend, and then parents that was stripped of them when he decided to go to the war because and the only reason he went to the war is because he thought that would make a man out of him trying to follow in his father’s footsteps. Kirby went to war to both male role models in your life the war and he felt that war equals to you becoming a man. Then going to the war caused even more problems. Anthony was just searching for himself and the outcome that he got was a horrible one.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Juanita did lose a lot in this film by the end! This really is such a sad story!

[@dajahm1214]

I love this channel, it is very thought provoking.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thank you Darren! We love these discussions!

[@patrickdukart3298]

It is established that Cuddy is a pimp. After his first scene, Anthony and Juanita go up to her apartment and Anthony says "What the fuck? You got a pimp hanging around my baby?"

[@dolphboothe5510]

The planning of the robbery was the downfall of everything...putting a extra man on the corner w Skip was a bad idea, the get away car was too far from the robbery, Joe not knowing how many armor truck guards was on in the trucks, and where Anthony and Joe was hiding at was VERY BAD choice to hide...the truck backed into the dock leaving the driver and passenger side mirror looking directly at the bottom of the stairs...him going to war would've led to a bad outcome, he would've most likely became a junkie or a drunk...the planning of the Robbery is the dividing factor

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yeah, that whole plan was a mess!

[@EtoTheKay]

While the whole plan was a mess, and they lost Joe and Delilah over it, they still coulda got away with it and had a happy ending. What killed the happy ending? The group not getting the hell outta town the second they got the money! But what do they do? Chill in the city they just committed a heist in for days, or even weeks, going to the hood and giving poor folk turkeys and toys 🤦🏽‍♂️. This movie is top 5 all time for me. But the ending kills me. All they had to do was get the hell outta town the second the heist was complete.

[@mercermercepanama6334]

Oh, yes! Bringing in Cleon was a huge mistake! When the police officer came along, Cleon froze up just like Skip did in Vietnam. Moreover, Cleon's demeanor actually made the police officer suspicious of him, and as we saw, Cleon ratted everyone else out. Another grave mistake they made was sticking around afterwards. They all should have left New York IMMEDIATELY. It made absolutely NO SENSE at all to stay in New York after the fact. They could have gone down south or possibly up to Canada. When Kirby and Anthony finally decided to leave town towards the end of the film, It was too late by then because the police were already closing in on them after Cleon ratted them out to the police. I neglected to mention that Joe blowing up the armored truck was also a huge mistake and was completely unnecessary because all of the money in the truck could have been completely destroyed; thus defeating the purpose of the robbery.

[@Mike-ts2ey]

The first thing Anthony did when he got stateside was get a job.

[@paulgardner5079]

I watched this movie with my grandfather, who was a Vietnam vet, and we both enjoyed it. I actually mistakenly thought it was a different Nam movie called the walking dead with Eddie Griffin.

[@MrGreen-nl3yv]

Cuddy didn't care at all because look at it from a logical standpoint. If he really cared then why didn't he let her stay at his house? That dude probably has a few women on the hook and keeps them around just in case he falls off or needs a place to stash the illegal items at. He doesn't need respect because no matter how noble he is his lifestyle creates enemies and enemies will hurt people who that person cares about. it wasn't like he was James St Patrick trying to get out of the game. Far as Delilah and Anthony being together I say it would have been good if Juanita didn't have his children because then it would have been awkward. What if Delilah and Anthony had a child after him and Juanita how would the Thanksgiving dinners be? Hey kids, let's go to your grandmothers house so you can see your sister/cousin, NO! 😂

[@AxiomAmnesia]

The only way we would advocate Delilah and Anthony together is if he never got with Juanita to begin with. LOL No to the sister/cousin thing! LOL

[@Nevaeh1]

They only talked a little about how Juanita lived before Anthony came back. She and Cuddy might've been living together, but his lifestyle was too much for her, causing them to break up. Men like Cuddy aren't usually one-woman men. His lifestyle also came with the risk of them getting killed, robbed, or arrested at any time. That roach-infested apartment might've felt like peace for her. I also think Anthony waited until he found a job to see Juanita because if he didn't find a job, he would leave town again.

[@davidsims5796]

Cutty made me sick

[@taurus_1977]

Maybe Anthony didn't want Juanita to know that Delilah was part of it, which would make her despise him for getting involved in the robbery that sent her to the up-per room.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

They knew she was part of the robbery because she was dead with facepaint at the scene.

[@scorpiolady73]

I just howled at "So I was in the Marine Corps". I hear you on how you spend your money (or really DON'T spend your money) while on tour. 100% agreed. Semper fi!

[@comedianByronKelley3438]

Man I got a 15 year old I ain't seen her in 6 years my father tried to give her money. And my BM called the police and I'm still paying child suport

[@kelly1743]

In the midst of moving so we haven't been online. Can't wait to Comment in detail. I would connect to the net JUST to download your stuff to watch offline.

[@doowopsoprano9867]

What about the poor kids/ families in the neighborhood that they gave Christmas presents & the turkeys to? It makes the most sense that they used Delilah's cut to do that which is most likely given her character the type of thing she would've done herself had she lived on. Hasn't it occured to anybody that at some point behind the scenes or in a deleted scene, she expressed exactly what she wanted to do with her cut & Anthony was only doing what she may have wanted him to do with it? Some trivia also: there are deleted scenes that have not seen the light of day. Btw, I'm loving these videos lol

[@AxiomAmnesia]

DooWop, I'm not buying that Anthony was doing Delilah's will with that money because they didn't take her while cut and do anything with it. They split it amongst themselves. Yes Anthony gave part of his money away, but that was part of HIS cut. You never hear him say anything else about Delilah. That action was his will and feeding his own ego. It had nothing to do with Delilah or what she would have wanted.

[@fadeblac5633]

Or maybe they gave her money to the Black Panther Party.

[@doowopsoprano9867]

@@AxiomAmnesia you know what? I stand corrected. I completely forgot what Kirby said after Skip & Cleon got into it. He said "Y'all is here fightin' & we got over $300,000 to split of 5 ways.". After counting in my head. I realized it was only Anthony, Skip, Kirby, Cleon & Joe. So yeah, youse were right. My apologies. And That's foul as f*ck on their part.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

@@doowopsoprano9867 It was sho nuff foul! LOL

[@doowopsoprano9867]

@@AxiomAmnesia Poor Delilah. She gave her life for nuthin.

[@jsmacks11]

I kind of see why Deliliah didn't get her split post death. The money would have either went to: 1. Her parents 2. The Black Panther organization 3. Juanita 1. Her parents I'm guessing that it would be highly likely that her parents DONT accept the money. Also they just lost Delilah to the Robbery so they might be inclined to tell the authorities and even if they don't, I'm sure the COPS would be paying extra attention to their movements and transactions after knowing that Juanita took part in the Robbery. 2. The Black Panther Organization The Black Panther Organization around that time was most likely already under deep infiltration from the FEDS. Knowing that Juanita took part in the Robbery the Organization would be the first place for them to look and any suspected increase of spending, the FEDS would have cracked down hard. 3. Juanita My guess is most of Anthony's money was intending to go to her anyways. 1/3 of the money going to her would have been too much I'm thinking from the rest of the group. My guess is Anthony's intention was if Bokeem didn't spend his money recklessly was to wait for it to die down and try to get back with Juanita possibly trying to get them to leave New York for good. $60000 in early 1970s was alot of money and they could have bought a house for like $20000 in a much cheaper slower paced city in the with still much money to spare.

[@mscott3309]

When i first seen this movie when i was a teen i didn’t blame him from robbing the truck but now as acult that works for the department of veteran affairs its so much benefit he could get . If he has ptsd he could got compensation for that , education benefits, health care he even could have got a job with the VA because veterans get preference over civilians, but the thing is this was in the 70s so I’m not sure how much he would have got been a black veteran so we do got to keep that in mind . Racism was still in full effect back then

[@raylgreen1]

The Main reason why the second kid is in question in my opinion is the reaction she gave when he asked her if that was cuttys baby in her stomach. Her face looked unsure to me like she didn't know

[@jsmacks11]

It's hard to say that staying in the military would have been better for Anthony. The Vietnam War stopped in like the mid 70s. One or two extra years is a long time when you are at War. From his perspective, it increases the chances of him being killed. It also alienates him further from Juanita and his daughter. I think he wanted to come home to Juanita and his daughter. Also from Anthony's perspective, he has no idea on how long the War will last as he can't predict the future like we can. If he joined the military in a non War time, this would have been a different movie as he would have most likely written home, called, or even visited and probably got married to Juanita while in Service. I wonder though why Anthony decided to not be a Cop or work for a Security firm after coming home. I think he would have gotten a job fairly easily with his credentials. The pay would have probably been a little better than his butcher job and more stable and he would have had a better chance of moving up the ladder. His military record didn't mean much to most employers but a Police force or Security firm would have most likely hired him because of his record.

[@therealmarlonbellamy]

This movie hits different now that i’m an adult and retired military. Anthony would have been better off with Delilah and he should have stayed in the military & got stationed away from home & expanded his horizons. Cutty was a pimp and he was using Juanita. Can we please get reviews on the following black military movies: A Soldier’s Story The Tuskgee Airmen The Walking Dead (Not the AMC series) Antwone Fisher Red Tails

[@caliobzvr]

This movie is actually based on a true story from an anthology book full of memoirs of experiences from Black soldiers in Vietnam called "Bloods". It was Kirkland (aka Ari S. Merretazon), whose true story was detailed in the book Bloods: An Oral History of the Vietnam

[@jsmacks11]

I think Anthony not joining the military might have improved his life a bit. If he didn't join, he would have most likely stayed with his girlfriend and most likely married her. He probably would have got a normal 9 to 5 job. While he had some criminal influences before the military, I don't see him really inclined to a criminal life. One thing Anthony did seem to have was focus. I think he would have tried his best to make the best out of the situation. Maybe he would have had temptations into the criminal life but I think with minimal street experience, combat experience he would have tried to keep away. I see him somewhat distancing himself from his friends who go to military. Maybe him and his baby mama don't stay together but it probably would be a much cleaner breakup than what happens in the movie. But what could lead him down the criminal path is whether there are no jobs or not for him. But I would see him more or less as a small time criminal than someone who robs trucks. That said based off of the movie I somewhat see him joining the military as inevitable. A healthy, mentally competent, no criminal record Black individual was a perfect candidate for the military, that's why all of his friends ended up there as some clearly did not want to go.

[@michaelrossLegit]

What did his baby mama do wrong he wasn’t there for her and Cutty was

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Who said she did something wrong?

[@cocojames4486]

​@@AxiomAmnesiaa FEW ppl hate her for the reason just stated..... thAts why this question was just asked.

[@blacknbougie8021]

You know what she "did wrong." She's a blck woman & we don't deserve relief. If we aren't long suffering doormats, we're labeled "thots" & the like. Lord forbid she just wanted some help, someone to take the edge off of being poor......oh nah "Juanita ain't shyt!" - most bmales.

[@cocojames4486]

@@blacknbougie8021 RT if she was a YELLOWbone she wouldnt be so hated.... but shes a coco brown woman so its all FEET on her neck smfh 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@blacknbougie8021]

@@cocojames4486 as a "yellowbone", I agree. Although WE'RE ALL 304's in their eyes, liteskin women are given a tad bit more grace....which is something I don't respect at all.

[@solomonkush5687]

Just found this channel love the videos keep doing what you doing

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@KokettaKnowles]

I really enjoy the different perspective on the classics of my day.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

❤️

[@davidrankin9874]

I agree, Anthony should have done right by his child.

[@Mad-UpperCuts]

(need dead presidents) 25:55 realistically Cutty was looking at it like, dude was back because he feel off. And he would not stick around. So Cutty might have felt like he was waiting Anthony out, before he got tired and left again

[@AxiomAmnesia]

That could be true. Maybe he felt like Anthony wasn't solid since he had previously abandoned his family.

[@Mad-UpperCuts]

@@AxiomAmnesia totally agreed. I was also thinking, Anthony's family was side eyeing him about not claiming the baby and her mama. they just didn't speak on it,. But they looked him it a Lil funny

[@Hispandinavian]

He probably could have just reenlisted and then just got the F away from New York.

[@damianstarks3338]

This alternate ending video to this movie is perfect.

[@NostalgicVibesNetwork]

Thanks!

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thank you for supporting the channel! 😊

[@victorvictorious8692]

All he had to do was call Dominic Toretto and he would’ve got off the bus. Oops mind blown.😊😊😊😊

[@lakeshagadson357]

there are people in military service that live in north Carolina

[@inmymind1386]

That fire a** content we love

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Awww thanks!!!

[@garrymiller1497]

That second child i think was cuttys fosho

[@thetarotdetective3363]

My thoughts exactly 💯

[@stevekasan1575]

NEW SUB! Glad i found your channel and really enjoyed the deep dive to what i think one of the best America Saga films in Dead Presidents. It really needs to be regarded to that standard. The story is the classic tale of tragic figures in America bucking the system, yet, falling prey to the system. You see it from films in the golden age of White Heat in Cagney to the works of Scorcese. Butch Cassidy and Sundance, etc. Back to the "What if" of this narrative. Honestly, i think the heist would have worked. Even with all the same players except you switch the positions of Skip and Cleon when that beat cop came in. OR, if Skip came over and talked his way, even when things popped off Skip would have blindsided the Cop-sad to type-they would have made it out.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

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[@TrueCrimeTVTime]

I think the responses easily prove how sexist our culture can truly be, and shows the level of disdain people have for women for no apparent reason. And the sad part is that many women have experienced a deadbeat similar to Anthony, but will still defend other men just like him. Also, this movie is a great example of what black people mean when we say that we don't want to stand for that damn national anthem. You had all those men shipped off to Vietnam and they left being called the n-word and called back to the same Jim crow system, just redesigned in the form of economic oppression.

[@Yammyalexis91113]

What about the GI bill my dad had a GI bill and went to community college after he came back from Vietnam. Didn’t Skip have money from the GI bill to be able to go back to school he could have had that Anthony to go to school to get job training

[@FirstNameJackLastNameHammer]

Cutty was a SIMP, and Anthony was a deadbeat...

[@MissSimone02]

So, I personally believe that Juanita isn't completely irredeemable, but she was terrible towards Anthony. Not that he didn't kinda deserve it, but it seemed like she got pregnant the second time way too fast and Cutty was still dropping money on her. I don't believe Cutty does things with no strings attached. So that's why I believe the first child is his, the second child isn't.

[@MsSoul168]

Cutty was no pimp because you never see him with other women. Pimps and drug dealers weren't one and the same. Juanita was a woman he cared for and financially provided for Sarah. I'm sure Cutty had many women that he was dating, and Juanita was just one of his many jump offs.

[@Supremmo]

He was involved with one of those vices. Cowboy works for him.

[@isaiahbing2192]

Cutty was a drug dealer not a pimp Cowboy mentioned his name in a same sentence with Nicky Barnes

[@darryllittle7705]

Cutty was likely an upper level heroin dealer in early 70s New York City making several thousands a day

[@damianstarks3338]

This channel just got my subscription.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thank you! ❤️

[@damianstarks3338]

@@AxiomAmnesia Your welcome keep this content coming !

[@TYMOONMFB]

Delilah money went to those kids he handed out toys to and the turkeys cause she was for her people 💯🙏🏾

[@AxiomAmnesia]

No it didn't because Anthony didn't take Delilah's share. Her share was divided amongst all of them.

[@davidsims5796]

I just learned something new

[@dolphboothe5510]

Me personally don't have a problem with Juanita, she did what a single mother is supposed to do, so flowers 💐 for Juanita 💐💐💐💐💐

[@Ninohollywood1718]

He should of never went to Vietnam That was his down fall to everything like most black Americans that went at that time .

[@edouble30083]

Also an E5, or Sargent, in 1969 was $254.70 a month. I’m sure he didn’t have a lot to bring back home

[@blamedarius9809]

I love that I've found this channel this is my favorite movie of all time. I cant wait to view the other videos and with that being said. I feel as though the reason Dalillahs cut wasn't recognized is because she had no offspring and nothing to leave it to. no legacy to leave anything to so naturally she wouldn't get it .True it could have went to Nita and ultimately a portion did but thats why I feel her share wasn't honored.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Welcome to the tribe! ☺️

[@asialynn6670]

He Should Have Got With The Sister, She Genuinely Liked Him🤷🏽‍♀️

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Yep!

[@MsSoul168]

​@@AxiomAmnesia I always thought that Delilah was way too young for Anthony.

[@fraz72]

@5:53. Anthony would've been fine if he stayed in due to doing 26 months in Vietnam. He basically did the equivalent of two tours. At some point he would have gotten a non deployable assignment to burn some time until the end of the Vietnam war and possibly made a career out of it

[@goodlife8044]

I think Anthony was rebelling against who his brother was. The mama wanted him to be like his brother and that’s the last person he wanted to be like. The brother is giving golden child vibes. Anthony the black sheep of the family.

[@earthangelic278]

Hey yall. Came Back To State My Take On This. I Feel Like Anthony Made Very Poor, Selfish Decisions Especially With Juanita From The Beginning From Not Marrying Juanita Like You Stated To Everything Afterwards. He Was A Deadbeat In The Beginning. But I Sympathize W. Him Bc He Was Only A Kid Trying To Figuring His Life. I Understand Her Resentment Towards Him. Hell Any Woman Would Be Angry Or Hurt In That Situation. Everybody In This Movie Was Struggling. Also I Believe Sarah Is Anthony's. Cuddy Would Have Said Something About But He Kept Saying " I Took Care Of Your Woman And YOUR Baby" During The Film.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Heyyyy!!!!

[@earthangelic278]

The Only Way Anthony Could've Avoided All Of This Would Be Him Not Going To Vietnam

[@brandonk5993]

With Anthony being in the field, without a dependent. He was probably making $600 or $700, which would be around $5,000 during that time. Why was he broke when he came back? Look at his parents, he sent money to them and not to his own child.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Hmmm... It never occurred to me that he may have sent money home to his parents. I'm not sure I agree though. Anthony's parents seemed well-resourced before he even went to war.

[@tonymolatto1904]

You guys should do a video on Hussle And Flow the movie on how the movie is about Nola and not Deejay. In the beginning of the movie for example the title of the movie shows Nola in the title. Interesting concept.

[@albertharris2306]

Why didn't he kill cuttie and take his money?

[@Kairenovations]

When they were at the table arguing didn't Anthony ask if the baby was even his

[@michaelwilliams9179]

I can somewhat understand why he messaged Kirby an not Juanita. Kirby was a vet himself. So he understood what war was like. Talking to Kirby was his way of venting. Now while is at war he’s taking life day by day that’s how he survives. Thinking about Juanita would just make each day longer and longer. It would drive him crazy. Knowing he can’t be there, what if he doesn’t make it home? Distracting him from the dangers at hand. Back then ppl went to war expecting to die. It was different because we all have the mentality of making it back home to our families. At first we died for them but now we live for them. Unfortunately regardless of his reasoning he was a dead beat

[@Bosskawz_Beats]

He wasn't a deadbeat he didn't know he has a daughter until at war he got a letter then he came back

[@jsmacks11]

I'm thinking Cutty was a pimp based off of his dress style (basically what the movie implies). if he wasn't a pimp he acted like one. Cowboy compared him to Nicky Barnes who was a Drug Dealer. Looking at Nicky Barnes dress code, was more of that of a respectable Business Man than a pimp. Nicky gives Organized crime vibes not necessarily pimp vibes. That said Cutty's flamboyant image could be more of Anthony's exaggerated imagination. From his mind he sees a guy in a nice suit, he is envisioning a Pimp. Nobody really says exactly what Cutty does, only that he is comparable to Nicky Barnes which implies Drug Dealer but not necessarily. He just could have been talking about how much money and power he has. There is also no reason why he couldn't have been both or neither and did something completely different. I think in the end it doesn't matter. We all know Cutty was a Criminal and a high ranking one, and have enough street skills to easily subdue a special forces Marine. Juanita had to know Cutty was a Criminal and relied on him while Anthony was gone (to what extent we don't really know). She continued to rely on him once Anthony came back.

[@dionbamazing]

Im a vet..this movie is soo true on so many lvl's...MASTERPIECE

[@alleny1761]

Personally, I think Anothy should have stayed in the military. He could have traveled the world like he told Skip and Jose

[@67psychout]

Could he and Juanita have moved in with his parents? Could his dad or brother had helped him get a better job?

[@jphuture]

Cutty was compared to Nicky Barnes ! Dudes like that had their hands in a little bit of everything illegal

[@koguma.newyork1]

great analyses

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Thank you!

[@breyuna]

Juanita did not owe anthony a thing.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

This part.

[@blacknbougie8021]

I agree. Wth was she supposed to do?! Smh

[@elifoster4367]

So it's cool Juanita had a drug dealer around Anthony’s daughter??? Why didn't she just break it off w Anthony??? Why talk down & disrespect Anthony til he snaps??? She still had Cutty coming around afterwards while Anthony had grocery bags in his hands, you cool with that too??? Brother fought a whole war in Vietnam to keep y'all safe in America, & Juanita don't owe Anthony a thing???? How did y'all Black Women get so arrogant?????

[@blacknbougie8021]

@@elifoster4367 "Arrogant"???😂😂we don't have to bow down & humble ourselves to you powerless bums. Juanita needed & DESERVED HELP. she found it in Cutty. More power to her💅🏾

[@rjhikups78]

​@@blacknbougie8021needed help..... sure. Found it in a pimp/playa/hustler? Be for real.😂 Cutty wasn't providing anything substantial to her....just some bread for booty.

[@blacknbougie8021]

Ok if I don't comment throughout the video I'm gonna forget my comments so forgive me. Idk if Delilah was a better fit for Anthony bc she was still revolutionary & he still would've ended up doing what he did. I do think that Delilah would've been more understanding of his lack of employment & financial woes bc she understands & empathizes with the bmales plight possibly more than Juanita.

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Comment along the way! We love that! :-) Thanks for watching!

[@blacknbougie8021]

Damn Height ain't show Anthony NO LOVE🤣🤣🤣He said the homey was a deadbeat. I'm hollerin 😭 Idk I try to empathize with his situation but all in all....I guess he was🤷🏽‍♀️

[@AxiomAmnesia]

Deadbeat don't negate you as a human! It's just my descriptor for him! 😂😂