say NO to uncle Ben's, Use Brown Rice Flour

how I prepare brown rice flour substrate and sterilize it in 1/2 pint jars for inoculation. it helps to be familiar with the original PF Tek to fully understand the equipment and lid configuration in this video.

[@lbar2458]

Cant wait to see whats next. Especially when u make substrate. I decided to try uncle bens i inoculated 4 bags its been 3 weeks and its going slow. Anyway one bag looks contam but other 3 no sign at all. Im with you i think u can be extremely clean and uncle bens may still contam anyway.

[@jok325635]

takes 90 days with uncle.

[@poodytanx8611]

Almost did uncle bens when I first started but after more reading I just bought everything I needed and went straight to monotubs and never looked back.

[@mycopsycho3130]

Right on 👍, so much more contamination control with the classic PF Tek. Thanks for contributing facts 🍄👍

[@natureshealing7094]

I grind up my own rice as well ha

[@LoganAddisMusic]

I have a nutribullet blender, will that work?

[@mycopsycho3130]

I have used a cheaper version before

[@natureshealing7094]

I typically just finely break up the brf cake when it’s fully colonized into the substrate. Great flushes. Just have to be careful during harvesting your flushes because it will tear up the substrate really easy

[@mycopsycho3130]

I do this as well with my first jars, then once I have a good Liquid culture, I switch over to popcorn in pint jars because it colonizes faster.

[@NewfieBrody]

Good to know. I should be harvesting in a couple of days.

[@mycopsycho3130]

@@NewfieBrody love to hear it! Hope you have a plentiful harvest

[@NewfieBrody]

@@mycopsycho3130 I'm happy with my first flush:)

[@mycopsycho3130]

@@NewfieBrody🥳 I'm really glad to hear it!!🎉 Harvest time makes this hobby so rewarding, and it's so exciting when you have success. Happy growing 🍄

[@Enochulate88]

That your wbs grain and grind it to a flower an it works the same .

[@mycopsycho3130]

True, as long as you sterilize it in a pressure cooker. This is the original pf tek from the book written by Terrence McKenna, it is meant to be able to be done without a pc. After all that's a big part of what my channel is all about, showing people how easy it is to succeed in this hobby. Thanks for the input🍄🫠

[@sleonard2649]

Great vids! I'm curious if you get much contamination using spore cultures for inoculation straight to PF Tek? I've had to first grow out on agar before going to spawn to isolate good mycelium from contaminates... maybe I just got unlucky with my spore syringe supplier.

[@mycopsycho3130]

I have very little contamination when doing PF tech, and have never lost a whole batch of jars. I have limited my suppliers to those with excellent reputations such as Michigan Mushroom Man and Grumpy Gills. I don't even use the contamination barrier most of the time since I use modified lids. Its not a bad idea to go straight to agar, but I only do it with my homemade syringes.

[@M0RGAT0RY]

I just bought my 1st batch of spores; plus I had to buy shoebox bins, coco coir, etc. I only have so much money, thats why I went uncle ben's tek. When I get paid from work, I will buy a pressure cooker and a SAB... I couldn't find any Uncle Ben's at any of the places I went to. I did find cups of 90 Second Brown Rice, and thats what I am hoping will grow.

[@mycopsycho3130]

For the record this brf jar Tek is designed to work without a pressure cooker. You boil the jars for 2 hours. Good luck my dude 🍄🫠👍

[@mycopsycho3130]

Also, just buy the materials in steps, all you need right now is the stuff for this Tek, it will take about six weeks for the jars to fully colonize. While they colonize you can focus on buying the materials for the fruiting process. While that goes for another month to six weeks you can get your drying materials.🫠

[@mycopsycho3130]

You don't need a SAB until after colonization as well

[@SirDydimus86]

Instant Pot will work just fine. You'll need a fairly large tote which can be a bit clunky depending on where you're lab is. Most of us work in the kitchen so if you're there you might as well just use the heat from the oven for your sterile workspace! Just be careful if you have a gas stove. UB definitely coddles the newbies but it is still an easy way for someone to get into the hobby.

[@mycopsycho3130]

@@SirDydimus86 nice

[@Ho11ow661]

Btw you skipped a step during your fast forward. After you wiped it down you added something that wasn't in the bowl. Not sure if it was extra brown rice or vermiculite

[@mycopsycho3130]

My bad, it was vermiculite for a contamination barrier🍄🫠

[@Ho11ow661]

@@mycopsycho3130 thanks

[@mycopsycho3130]

@@Ho11ow661 right on, I'm here for any questions🫠👍

[@Ho11ow661]

@@mycopsycho3130 I am wondering, what is the purpose of the contamination barrier of vermiculite? The jars have already been sterilized in the pressure cooker, and the lids have been shut so no contamination should be going through. The only contamination would be from injecting the needle which would bypass the barrier anyway. The only use I can see for the vermiculite would be locking in more moisture

[@mycopsycho3130]

The contamination barrier is an old school technique mostly used because the original growing method called for using the metal lids with holes punched in them for inoculation. These holes are covered with breathable tape, this tape has to be pulled back to stick the needle in. At this point contaminates can and WILL get in. The vermiculite captures these contaminants. before they get to the substrate. I use modified lids so I can bring my brf all the way to the top. For the record, contamination is hiding everywhere, you can never be too careful, any defense against contamination is a plus. Happy growing🫠🍄

[@felipetomaz1087]

90 minutes steam, no pressure also works for me

[@mycopsycho3130]

Nice

[@tedkravos7129]

Can you use perlite? Isn't vermiculite same thing as perilite? They both hold water.

[@mycopsycho3130]

Perlite is porous and can hold some water, but doesn't do as good a job as vermiculite for water retention. Verm. works more like little sponges.

[@kylebrowning88]

Perfect answer. This video made me a subscriber. Watched a few of your vids before, but I really like your attitude and approach. I feel I could learn a thing or two, while having fun.@@mycopsycho3130

[@Yuukoo15]

Good shit brother, I’ve been delaying for the longest

[@lilcrzipassions9316]

How many of these jars, per shoebox/tote/monotub of substrate- do you crumble and transfer over into??? One per shoe box sized tote?? And, how’s the yield? What ratio jar mix to substrate, do you use?? Thanks for the amazing content and help!!!

[@mycopsycho3130]

So I usually just do these in the beginning for spore germination. Then once colonized I transfer to a grain, I use popcorn, but there are other choices depending on your capabilities. The grain jars are one pint, so we are also increasing our Mycelium, I then dump the colonized popcorn into the dub tub with some Coco coir. I have a few videos on the whole process, give it a look and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for the support I'm glad my videos helped, happy growing🫠🍄👍

[@SilverPhoenix-PlazmaMoon]

​@mycopsycho3130 So, this method is better than just inoculating a popcorn bag/Jar directly? I've had really bad luck with Uncle Bens with contam, and have some BR jars that are doing well... I can't wait to try this honestly. Thanks!

[@shanefagan5215]

how do i sterilise my grain if i dont own the glass jars, i have plastic

[@mycopsycho3130]

To be honest, I'm not sure

[@dustinhebert8676]

I've never seen someone use hot water. Does that not add extra moisture to your jars?

[@mycopsycho3130]

Never have an issue, I prefer it as an extra precaution because I use an instapot

[@Enochulate88]

You said a cup of water and didn't say how much brf you used...

[@mycopsycho3130]

Your right I didn't specify, but In the very beginning of the video I said the ratio is 2:1:1. 2 cups of verm and 1 cup of water and one cup of flour

[@SirDydimus86]

All ratios will be verm:brf:h20 2:1:1. Multiply or divide based on volume

[@southern-samurai]

Is this for any species or wood lovers?

[@mycopsycho3130]

It works for any mushies you can get spore syringes for. I know some shrooms come in little plugs that you nocc up logs with.

[@Enochulate88]

Can you do this without verm?

[@mycopsycho3130]

The verm is for longevity, it holds moisture for the mycelium.

[@nathanthayer]

why cant we just use the brown rice flower its self

[@mycopsycho3130]

You can, mycelium really likes a chunky flour tho. And I find the rice to be cheaper than the flour

[@RawTubeTV]

How many CC's of a spore syringe would you add to these jars? Thanks!

[@mycopsycho3130]

I go about 3/4-1 cc per jar spread out amongst the holes

[@mycopsycho3130]

I believe the original Tek has 4 holes in the lid and says to squirt a 1/4 cc in each.

[@RawTubeTV]

@@mycopsycho3130 Thanks so much!

[@richardjordan9092]

There is literally 0 point of spraying the inside of the jars and everything else when youre pcing the jars anyways lol.

[@mycopsycho3130]

Agreed, but since I use an instapot I like to take all precautions since it can only get to 12-13psi instead of the ideal 15. But thanks for your comment anyways, hope it made you feel better