2013 Chevy Impala No Start - Ignition Relay Low Voltage Codes (P1682, P0689)

[@ScannerDanner]

Here is the link to Mitchel 1 DIY mentioned in the video eautorepair.adtrk.biz/?a=10817&c=24&p=r&s1=

[@markchidester6239]

A cool video suggestion is what do you get with the Mitchell DIY. Code discription? Code set condition? Component location? The extent of the wiring diagram.

[@anthonywright9593]

Ha there I was wondering if you know the relay tester model number you used on the Lincoln Town car that had no power to fuel pump I'm doing a similar job on a 2002 BMW 530i.please can you help me? Thanks

[@1MiketheMechanic]

Great video SD. The 2007?+ GM trucks have a similar fuse box that has similar electrical problems. Don't forget about Alldata DIY which can be a better deal. www.alldatadiy.com/index.html

[@bgregg55]

SD is easily in the top 10 of best YT channels.

[@ScannerDanner]

Thank you

[@tnamen1307]

@@ScannerDanner Sir, your videos are very very informative and useful for me. Thanks a lot. Meanwhile, my car Hyundai i20 1.2 has SDVC function in the Audio head unit. It controls the volume of the audio playback bead on the car speed. Now, how do I locate this particular wire going to the head unit and read it's signal?? I'm really interested to trace out this wire where it's coming from and going into!!! Please make video relavant to this SDVC wire of any car. Thanks in advance.

[@SmittySmithsonite]

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[@shauno3697]

I'd jump for joy that it wasn't an $800+ TIPM out of some Chrysler product. Paul, thank you again for another awesome video. Caleb, you deserve a raise.

[@ScannerDanner]

He just got one :-)

[@seftonplayer32]

This man is a genius!! He's one of a select few who are willing to pass on their knowledge. It's a godsend!!

[@Jpilgrim30]

Most of those GM fuse boxes just have somewhere around a 20 gauge solid bare copper wire as traces to each of the terminals inside. Most of the time one of those copper wires just have a hairline crack in them causing issues like this. It hardly takes any flex at all to gain or lose contact. I take these apart and fix them sometimes to save the customer some money or if availability on a new one is sketchy. I usually recommend a new one but some people really can’t afford it and I’ll try my best to help get them going again.

[@Maidi12345]

Hi, I am having the same problem and can't find the replacement fuse box. How do you bypass the crackle without causing any short circuit?

[@salvadorgutierrezr5914]

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[@tnamen1307]

I learned a lot with theory and practical from your videos, especially how to find short circuit, diagram reading, and fuel pump system. Thanks so much.

[@rp5029]

Great content as always and it's obvious Caleb has really been sharpening his video editing skills! Excellent job, guys!

[@lanceratliff8466]

Glad I found this video. I'm having issues with this as well. After watching this I wiggled the relay mentioned in your video And the car started up with no problem. 2012 impala.

[@kc360awareness]

Thanks again Paul, missed the banter between you and Caleb.

[@ScannerDanner]

I don't think Caleb was the cameraman on this one. He did the edits but I don't remember if he was there in person. This video was over a year old, sitting in the archives

[@kc360awareness]

ScannerDanner - he was missed. You two make a good team. I know my 16 yr old and I sure do love working together. I find myself sounding a little like you.... explaining to him how things work, how to plan our work, how to find and follow our direction. Thank you for teaching us all.

[@tnamen1307]

@@ScannerDanner please kindly make video on how to track SDVC wire going to the audio head unit of any car. I'm interested to find this control wire and read it's signal!!! Awaiting your inputs 😇😇😇

[@BLACKSSG85]

Caleb you crack me up flashing those answers in the 23rd minute 😂

[@cobbysparks9891]

Yeah. That was too funny. 😆

[@parochial2356]

Excellent editing and production. Your son is an excellent addition to the SD empire. :)

[@ScannerDanner]

He is getting good. Every video he gets better

[@tnamen1307]

@@ScannerDanner Sir, your videos are very very informative and useful for me. Thanks a lot. Meanwhile, my car Hyundai i20 1.2 has SDVC function in the Audio head unit. It controls the volume of the audio playback bead on the car speed. Now, how do I locate this particular wire going to the head unit and read it's signal?? I'm really interested to trace out this wire where it's coming from and going into!!! Please make video relavant to this SDVC wire of any car. Thanks in advance.

[@fabianthorne6831]

Thanks again Mr Paul Danner and Caleb , for the great knowledge and videos you share with us,much appreciation and respect coming from one of your students from Trinidad in the Caribbean.Y'all keep good and safe,blessings.

[@isalmankhan1]

Yes as always learn something new everytime I watch your lectures😉 Thanks for sharing SD👍 Special thanks to Caleb😎 Stay safe Guy's❤

[@Joeelectronicschematicsforauto]

I believe that too many times we rely on the scanner for information that we can infer from the schematic I always like to go to the to the schematic first and see the system but great videos you are a legend in electronics knowledge

[@matthewzoelle9149]

Great video. I deal with stuff like this all the time on the 2 delivery fleets I service. Funny thing is, I’d probably fix the pins or wire in a bypass temporarily till the new part comes in, and in the mean time the fleet manager would probably cancel the part because it’s working and he figures he can same some money. I have a lot of temp fixes like this that I come back a few months or a year later and find still there. Kind of funny, but I guess that’s how they save money.

[@Maidi12345]

Hi, I am having the same problem and can't find a replacement fuse box even in ebay. How do you bypass it without causing short circuit? How do you know which wire is defective/ broken? Thank you!!

[@markhb3346]

Replaced a few on police cars. Last one was human induced due to coworker jamming DMM leads into the fan relay cavities .. Great video

[@Maidi12345]

Hi. Mine is a policd car and I can't find an exact replacement. Do you know if the fuse box without the police package will work? I see that the wo police package lacks a few relays related to spot lights and hdlt mdl only. Also, does it require reprogramming? Thank you!!

[@SmittySmithsonite]

Thanks for the Mitchell DIY links - $20 will save someone (like myself) one big migraine! Great stuff as always, Paul. Divide and conquer! For whatever reason, I forget everything when a car is right in front of me, lol. Stage fright! I really need to step back and thinker a while! Great having your videos to see how things SHOULD be done. "Nope - You didn't" ... LOL! You guys are great together! Cracks me up. Laughing and learning - gotta love it! THANKS, Paul & Caleb! 👍🍻

[@m.b.smoshitoa8325]

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[@ScannerDanner]

Did I answer your question though? What I meant was that if my answer to your question was not clear, then keep watching! :-)

[@m.b.smoshitoa8325]

@@ScannerDanner I UNDERSTOOD VERY WELL.

[@8953147]

Voltage drop testing without fancy tools! You guys make a great team, stay safe out there!!

[@kevinwatson863]

Dude. That was awesome 👌. Same issue and loved the way you analyzed it.

[@BlackWolf-ly4sq]

I'm working on a car now that has, the same problem, however the, burned,wiring was the main culprit, new wiring harness and a new ignition key rotation, fixed it... Good luck 🚘😉

[@benbenplus]

The key to success is understanding DTC. If you don't have a description of the DTC and what triggers this troublecode, it's gonna take a lot of time finding the fault.

[@danielmusat597]

Glad to see you again! I hope to see more often with new videos and stuff.

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[@ScannerDanner]

@@allenramirez2778 I got your message in my support inbox. I'll get back to you in a day or two. Thank you!

[@OzMechanics]

I just recently had an impala with the same issue but actually on the ac clutch relay.

[@carolinastringband]

Stellar job explaining in detail this diagnostic process! Thanks!

[@ScannerDanner]

Thank you!

[@thomaspapa3831]

Another GM fuse box fail except my 3 vehicles are 20 yrs old. Another great video.

[@wyattoneable]

We can see perfectly. Great job explaining your process, great ghrapics and great editing!

[@juliobetancourt5480]

Top notch diagnostic work Great video editing very informative

[@ScannerDanner]

Thanks 👍

[@tnamen1307]

@@ScannerDanner Sir, your videos are very very informative and useful for me. Thanks a lot. Meanwhile, my car Hyundai i20 1.2 has SDVC function in the Audio head unit. It controls the volume of the audio playback bead on the car speed. Now, how do I locate this particular wire going to the head unit and read it's signal?? I'm really interested to trace out this wire where it's coming from and going into!!! Please make video relavant to this SDVC wire of any car. Thanks in advance.

[@ScannerDanner]

You only need to ask this question one time on one video. I've seen it like 5 or 6 times now. I see every comment and this just ends up being classified as spam by KZbin

[@vincescalise4821]

Great diagnosis Paul , Great camerawork Caleb , what a crappy design though for the fuse and relay panel

[@billyyoder8171]

Thank you Paul and Caleb. Great job. I'd be curious if the 2.5 VDC was actually bias voltage. Unplugging relay and testing the voltage on the fuses would explain it was a bias voltage if you still read 2.5 VDC. By wiggling the relay side to side, hearing the relay clicking, seems the poor terminal fitment was on the coil side of the relay, 85 or 86. Have a blessed and safe week to you and your family.

[@ScannerDanner]

Could be! Good thinking Billy.

[@FixItPhillip]

Good job with the diag brotha! -FixItPhillip

[@nicknicu1787]

You found that pretty fast,great video as always! Thanks for sharing! 👍

[@annacermed4468]

Hi man, it has been a while. Always fruitful. Thanks a lot, be safe (from Algeria I).

[@hotpackjay]

Best and easiest to understand that’s SD

[@Autorepairtechs]

Great video paul im glad to see that there are still great diagnosis being performed!

[@arasskanana7144]

You are a good teacher thanks man i follow all your videos on youtube.i thaaaaaanks👍👍👍

[@mdjahidjahidansari6255]

Good job Danner sir

[@labradormcgraw]

Fantastic post-production editing. You don't see these extra touches anywhere else.

[@Pablo_Automotive]

Another Great Saturday thanks Paul

[@monicaprice8635]

I had a 2010 Chevy impala with 190 + miles on it and the automatic transmission went out and Rameys car dealership in Princeton West Virginia put me a used transmission in with no warranty and before the 197 + it went out again and had it towed to Coles cheverlot and the mechanic teat drove it and couldn't find any thing wrong with it. On the way home 1.2 miles it went to having problems, pulled over to the side of the ride and turned engine off and let it sit and had to have it towed back to Cole's with transmission failure. They refused to be responsible and refused to pay the tow and had to take to a Jasper installer in Bluewell West Virginia and traded the old transmission for a Jasper transmission that cost over $4000.00 labor and all. The mechanic at Miller's in Bluewell West Virginia (Dean Miller) installed Jasper transmission and started car and backed it out of the garage and transmission was making a racket. Mr Miller checked out the module and said the wire came undone from soder and fixed the problem. A year plus went by received in mail a recall about the Chevy impala wire can I recommend my money back from GM. Very caring citizen concern Anthony Price. What must I do to get my money back on the recall. Thank you. GOD BLESS

[@djjammindave]

HEY DANNER, I THINK THAT'S WAS GOING ON WITH MY 2012 SRX CADILLAC. MY WIPERS AT TIMES SWITCH TO HIGH SPEED, WAY TOO HIGH THAT YOU KNOW THAT SPEED IS NOT NORMAL. MY CAR AT THE MOMENT DOESN'T START. I PUT IN A BRAND NEW BATTERY IT CRANKS GOOD BUT NO START. SCANNER THROW ME A P1682 - IGNITION 1 SWITCH - CIRCUIT 2. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAW IN YOU VIDEO. I WONDER IF IT IS MY PCM (I JUST ORDER ONE) OR THE PROBLEM LAYS ON THAT FUSE BOX. PERHAPS THE RELAY. THANKS FOR THE VIDEO, I LEARNED A LOT FROM OF IT.

[@FlameDudeUmai]

Thanks for the info and the wonderful videos.. Looking foward for more videos.. Learning alot from you.. Thanks from Mexicali Mexico Franco Perez. God bless you..

[@matthewmcdaniel9600]

Anti theft problem will. Show low voltage.even will crank after changing fuses.

[@jdtractorman7445]

You are recommending the same thing I would, with the wiper issue and those relays basically non serviceable, time for a new fuse block. At least it doesn't need programming. Isn't it crazy to think that some fuse blocks need programming. Something funny too is Saturn Ions have an integrated BCM/interior fuse block as one unit. Talk about begging for stuff to go wrong, LOL.

[@roadkill5333]

Oh, Mr Paul Danner!! How can I gingerly point out the error of your ways, without enduring the “Wrath of Caleb”?? 😉 You are the one and only, mighty teacher to the dumb and dumber, and worse!! (I am one of the worse.How y’all doin?) At one point you ask, ON CAMERA, “what this, ign vol”!! Sir, if the mighty Mr MANLY SCANNLYDANNLY, don’t know, and don’t tell us, we are all doomed!! There is no hopie hopie, for us dopie dopies!! ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW!! Other than this, one tiny flaw, I’d rate this vid a 11.5 out of 10!! The editing portion was ok, Caleb ain’t all that, and a bag of chips, yet!! YET!!! He’s getting there, tho!! Lol thanks Caleb.

[@jonmic4232]

Excellent diag as always. Thank you.

[@edwinlomonaco6754]

Had this exact issue with a Chevy Blazer SS. It would start and run until the IPDM got hot. Then that same circuit you're testing would drop to 2.5 volts. And the engine would shut off and you had a no crank condition. The same happens to Chrysler, Ford and Nissan products.

[@kasundoph.788]

Nice vedio sir danner..thanks fo the tuturial.. from Philippines

[@nancylewis7142]

thanks for all this information Paul.

[@throttlebottle5906]

scannerdanner, checkmark in box beside "not a hoarder" at least when it comes to video lol

[@shaungreen8713]

Very nice! Thank you! From Illinois. 👍👍👍

[@SaadElectric700]

Good job my friend / there is a factory defect in Fuse Box

[@labradormcgraw]

(6:52) "...and the flow chart pretty-much sucked." It takes a seasoned professional to know all the correct terminology. So impressive.

[@a.ghafoormalang3267]

Thanks for the lesson lam learning from you master 👍

[@tubeyou0925]

24:06 That guy in the background is absolutely captivated lol Let him know about Scannerdanner Premium XD

[@luismarty1685]

Great video as usual Paul.

[@JulioHernandez-rv6rp]

Danner contigo aprendo diagnóstico más inglés 😂

[@michaelsmdk]

Very good video! Helped me a lot! thank you!

[@iankelly2110]

nice diag paul

[@aymaneng6763]

Good job danner

[@odishoodisho4904]

Great as always thanks for sharing your knowledge

[@rubengarcia6920]

I seen 3 of those fuse boxes just do some crazy stuff

[@amr-50]

Thanks danner great video as usual

[@BLACKSSG85]

Alldata now has these diagrams FYI Paul.

[@marshmellow1323]

Awesome work danner 👍

[@neverstoplearning382]

Thanks for sharing master Danner. Regards.

[@kasundoph.788]

I really like troubleshooting especially this kind of troubleshooting but i dont have any diagram and scanner..i am hoping soon

[@Joeelectronicschematicsforauto]

whenever I hear a customer took out the fuses and put them back I always panic because they might put them in the wrong place that's why I try to match everything up with the fuse cover make sure

[@HypeTv100]

2016 malibu lt 1.5 have both these codes does a new fuse box need programing

[@Mikes_Repair]

Great job guy's!

[@whitetiger8652]

Thanks Paul!

[@fascistpedant758]

I've seen the Mitchell and Alldata DIY service and they didn't allow access to much of the service info. Maybe they've changed recently. Thanks.

[@rahrah8076]

Just buy the Mitchell on demand or all data and you will have full access and it comes on CD disk or external hard drive off eBay..not sure if it’s legal or not..lol

[@rahrah8076]

I’ve seen the full software on dhgate or aliexpress and you can buy it..

[@ScannerDanner]

It is not, that is pirated material and is HUGELY frowned upon by me, as I too am a seller of digital content.

[@rahrah8076]

ScannerDanner I new it was pirated software..I thought it was odd when I was looking at them on those websites..I haven’t bought any I use the Chilton library for all my wiring diagrams and information..

[@shenalally2214]

I replaced my battery when my 2010 wouldnt start. Key woukdnt turn OFF without a jump or a new battery. Now I have engine light ON with code C0899-00.

[@DanWallis86]

Great work mate.

[@ralphdanysh7760]

Could you explain how to separate the Delphi pa66-gf14 fuse box for 08 Impala 3.9 v6. Studs have been removed and all fuses and relays. The box seems to be held together by six tabs which I can't get to release.

[@holliday4580]

i just had my 13 impala no crank right after turning it off. after trying multiple times i cycled the key a couple times and it started right up. could that be a bad relay or ignition switch problem?

[@gregfaint504]

Hey mate, can u shed some light on where u access your wiring diagrams please? I’m an auto sparky in Aus, and always struggle with finding wiring diagrams for vehicles. Cheers mate. Awesome vids!

[@ScannerDanner]

eautorepair.adtrk.biz/?a=10817&c=24&p=r&s1=

[@georgewesly6513]

Interesting

[@throttlebottle5906]

but what if both relays were failing, assuming the one that was swapped is good could be a mistake also ;) don't ask how I know! done it before lol. maybe even all of them in that box from same lot/line

[@fp8007]

👍 Nice video Paul ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ stars my friend 🤓

[@anthonywright9593]

Ha there I was wondering if you know the relay stester tool model number you've used on the Lincoln Town car that didn't have power to the fuel pump? I'm doing some similar work on a 2002 BMW 530i

[@ScannerDanner]

It is called a uActivate tool and it is only sold by my friends at AESwave.com They are on back order right now, but email them, mention my name, and they will put you on a list [e-mail]

[@anthonywright9593]

@@ScannerDanner thank you Mr. D

[@markferraro5250]

Hey SD great video have those fuse boxes been an achilles heel for GM it seems like its been

[@ScannerDanner]

Yes they are

[@nasirlSteptoe]

Hello i have that same problem drove the car and it cut right off on me and i have a evap code now aswell

[@PhillyDee215]

Cool video!!!

[@robertbruneau112]

So which code was triggered by that secondary relay loose pin? 1682 or 689? thanks

[@ScannerDanner]

Both? I don't remember

[@Johnkb2059]

I would just put some Thin copper strands of wire around the terminals of the relay and plug it in

[@Discretesignals]

I wouldn't do that on a customer's car. What's to say it doesn't come back for some other fuse block related issue. If it's your own vehicle, have at it.

[@billyr9840]

Nice !

[@JD-iu3vi]

Curious if it was pin fitment on the relay pins or a bad solder joint on the relay socket on the PCB.

[@ScannerDanner]

Without taking the box apart, I can not answer that. Remember, other circuits were affected too (wipers intermittently not working)

[@alfredemerson1139]

I have seen this also coming up on my ram2500, where the fuse box is not sealed for moisture

[@mikeyshoemagoo0384]

So I have a 2005 Buick Rainier that's giving me the run-around it had the u100 switch at one point but I cleared it and it hasn't came back but I do have the ignition switch circuit to and I have a p2176 a minimum throttle body position not learned along with a p0449 in a p0443 which is the EVAP purge control solenoid circuit and the EVAP vent solenoid circuit but what's weird is sometimes it starts do you think that's more of an ignition switch or an ECM problem any help is greatly appreciated

[@ScannerDanner]

Test for power on the purge and vent solenoids first! No, it's not the ECM

[@jarvispryor279]

I have an 08 impala 3.5, Could this cost a misfire on all cylinder? I have codes for a p0689 and p0300

[@ScannerDanner]

Let's move this to my forum www.scannerdanner.com It is free to join and we can definitely help you. I have 28k global members and hand picked moderators who've been with me for years and know my material inside and out and are there to help me help you guys. It is just too difficult to offer back and forth messages here on KZbin with stuff like this and we also can't share pictures and images here like we can on the website. Hope to see you there!

[@brishondrake6142]

Wow, that is the first time I've seen you use a ratchet lol

[@emmanueldoomson3849]

I am one of your student I'm in auto I'll be watching you about 6 months ago I love the job but I don't have tools to work with please if you can help

[@ScannerDanner]

email me at [e-mail]

[@tnamen1307]

Sir, your videos are very very informative and useful for me. Thanks a lot. Meanwhile, my car Hyundai i20 1.2 has SDVC function in the Audio head unit. It controls the volume of the audio playback bead on the car speed. Now, how do I locate this particular wire going to the head unit and read it's signal?? I'm really interested to trace out this wire where it's coming from and going into!!! Please make video relavant to this SDVC wire of any car. Thanks in advance.

[@ScannerDanner]

There is no specific signal wire. Your radio is a module on a communication network that shares all kind of information, one being the speed the car is being driven for the speed sensitive volume adjustment. You should be able to simply turn that mode off within your radio

[@tnamen1307]

@@ScannerDanner but in the Audio head unit diagram, one pin or wire is designated as SPEED.

[@tnamen1307]

@@ScannerDanner since the car has SDVC function which can be enabled or disabled as per user option, the idea came that there must be a signal wire coming from the vss and going to the head unit, and subsequently used for controlling the SDVC function. Please help find locate such wires. Thanks.

[@ScannerDanner]

@@tnamen1307 where does the other end if that wire go? If it goes to another module, it is a communication wire

[@tnamen1307]

@@ScannerDanner other end not shown. Bdw, will back probe to this particular wire at the head unit side with car moving with multimeter gives a signal to confirm that it is the correct wire??

[@smms5056]

👍👍

[@mdjahidjahidansari6255]

Sir how do you find any car wiring diagram plz tell me this about site sir I hope you replay my comments and I am from india

[@ScannerDanner]

I posted the link in the description and pinned it in the comments. Not sure these sites will help you in India

[@RickeyMason]

I was getting this problem also it would cause my etc/ecm fuse to blow car would shutdown engine power reduced, check engine, service stability track, and etc.

[@RickeyMason]

I’m assuming I need to do the same

[@ScannerDanner]

Different problem if you're having a fuse blow. You have a short to ground on that circuit. Find out what is all on that fuse and start doing some visual inspections. You'll find the proper diagram here (listed under "power distribution") eautorepair.adtrk.biz/?a=10817&c=24&p=r&s1=

[@kesha1402]

@@ScannerDanner hello I'm having same issue as Mr. Mason no blown fuse just a code for ignition relay swap with new relay after about 50 miles happens again. service stabilitrak, reduced engine power then cuts completely off. 2014 traverse lt

[@ScannerDanner]

@@kesha1402 what was the issue with the car in the video? Bad power distribution box I think?

[@kesha1402]

@@ScannerDannerok, I will try changing this, thank you so much I hope it works

[@bigguy8586]

Scanner dinner, the troubles with my 2004 cayenne s just got worse. I left the moonroof open during big rsindtorm. When I tried to start it the next day, it started but with tons of lights . Troubleshooting has led me to the passenger side fuse panel on dash. Half of it has no power. What would cause half the panel to have no power? Aren't fuse panels powered by one main line?

[@ScannerDanner]

sounds like you have a module on the CAN network that crashed the network. I would focus on the modules on the floor area. You can have a BCM or another module that powers up a main relay that would then power those fuses that are dead

[@ScannerDanner]

In fact, the starting point for you would be to find out what powers those fuses, then back track your problem from there. It will lead you to the problem for everything in my opinion.

[@bigguy8586]

@@ScannerDanner thanks for replying. That's what I'm thinking is that there is a relay that must be powered via module that Powers up the fuse panel. So if I check schematic and find that relay, I could pull it and switch it to check for relay itself if no function check module power and ground, continuity of the line in between module and relay. If that shows good then look at why module not controlling relay. How would I do that without a spare module?

[@bigguy8586]

@@ScannerDanner does that link to the diy website show pin # for modules and where they individually go?

[@ScannerDanner]

@@bigguy8586 visual inspection first, find the module filled with water :-) Any luck?