The Cindy James Stalking Incident

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No

[@Indianking08]

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[@u9vk]

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[@beyondtubular2435]

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[@thechosenpsycho6438]

You didn't talk about the police chief that stayed with Cindy for a few months, they dated and he was also a suspect. Considering he knew when she would be alone and where she would be at all times. It also lines up with not taking fingerprints or seeing who's pubic hair was found at the scenes. I think he knew something more and was partially involved.

[@MellowFelloh]

Ah that adds a whole 'nother layer to it all. Interesting. Strange that he missed this.

[@makara5792]

That would also explain the fact that nothing ever happened in the surveillance because he knew about it.

[@myahl8742]

So basically this case is an cover up

[@myahl8742]

@@makara5792 yess

[@preston5020]

I like that theory

[@Delic19]

I've missed you

[@luke.pancake]

we all have :(

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Ikr

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[@venice4005]

Deadass bro

[@davidci]

"Hands tied behind her back" "Ruled as a suicide"

[@ThatsPerverted]

They ruled Rebecca Zahau death a suicide too

[@jupitershanty]

As one does.

[@JonathanCurtis0117]

Someone recreated it in 3 minutes tho

[@heyjoji1954]

@@JonathanCurtis0117 but why would she go through all that trouble? For shits and giggles? This definitely is an unsolvable case cause one of the parties are either lying or incompetent or there’s a completely different party who won’t revel themselves

[@rattoota]

@@JonathanCurtis0117 That was a knot specialist. Cindy was not well educated in knot tying. Them being able to recreate it means nothing.

[@zm1055]

Why didn't you mention how the police chief blamed her for "seducing" him and how during the surveillance periods he kept acting creepy towards her and insisted they needed to sleep in the same bed to make sure she was ok? That was soooo sus

[@desperado3236]

Im gonna take that as being sarcastic as theres no way your not that gullible, right?

[@fukjalen]

@Stephanie S you serious?

[@AngelVocal]

@Stephanie S it Barely sounds like one rip

[@drago1365]

Because you just made this up on the spot. Where in the recording did you hear that when the full recording isn't even available to the public

[@yeetjones927]

@@drago1365 do research my guy, scsretheatre didn't report on the full story he left some bits out

[@NatsumiTakanawa]

Pretty damn sad when people who are being stalked and abused are eventually killed because no one believes them or proper police investigation isn’t done.

[@gooolixx]

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[@sumeetghai8867]

She wasn't murdered but killed herself

[@rip_megatron1016]

The fbi didn’t find him because he had nordvpn installed on his computer

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[@shiningmissingno.8788]

Your profile picture fits perfectly with this comment

[@agenttex5973]

Ignoring the fact that he's back can we talk about how this was assumed to he a suicide? Yeah she's drugged tied up and dead in front of an abandoned house..... *Yea let's call it a suicide*

[@hunters.dicicco1410]

after several incidents of stalking related violence no less

[@Ratmus1]

reminds me of jeffrey epstein

[@saintcaffeinate]

acab man

[@s.m1121]

True. It truly was a tragic way to conclude it was just a suicide when it's clearly wasn't.

[@angel-nv7jk]

Police are idiots

[@Christian-ww6wc]

"The police conluded that her death was a suicide" *Ah its the Dominican Republic all over again*

[@BreakfastSnack]

Most U.S. police stations rule every case that don’t work a suicide. Laziness.

[@wolfm8097]

@@BreakfastSnack what?

[@BreakfastSnack]

@@wolfm8097 sorry I meant to say police officers who don’t work the case right and don’t have any other leads rule unsolved mysterious that seem different than a suciudse. A murder.

[@JEMA333]

LMFOOO or Puerto Rico.

[@josh-kg1rb]

Yes she tied her self up than she strangled herself while tied this is obviously a suicide

[@PlacidSine]

Cindy james: *drugged, strangled, and hands tied behind her back* Police: let me guess, suicide?

[@golkonda8995]

This happens really often, but Not in this case.

[@zach1339]

@@golkonda8995 haha

[@eduardopinheiro644]

@@golkonda8995 no its murder

[@bromisovalum8417]

heh look into vince foster two gunshot wounds in the back of the head, ruled suicide

[@LetthaWrite1inn]

Typical hog reponse

[@efe_aydal]

Good to have you back with another good one. This one can easily be a movie.

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[@LayZKimochi420BlazeIt]

Sounds like the invisible man

[@LEATHERrebelJUSTICE]

He's taken another 7 month break. He told me so.

[@Rubenbauer80]

Sounds like a boring movie to me.

[@xsnowy6210]

reisss

[@sanntti112]

One of the creepiest things about good stalkers is that the person they follow most likely doesnt know their being followed...

[@LosRikos]

Very true, This could've been a stalking of opportunity. Too many details are missing for us to narrow it down to a suspect due to incompetence of the police. then again, hindsight is always 20/20.

[@garf5484]

I mean, yeah, if the victim knows they're being watched then it's not really stalking then, innit? Unless the stalker was caught or something

[@garf5484]

@djs alt yes, nice one bro

[@leroybrown5726]

No, he's right wtf, isn't that the idea of stalking? Come on guys.

[@sanntti112]

@@leroybrown5726 yea he is technically correct I would say, but stalkers would most likely continue stalking if they had not been caught by authorities in some way. Maybe idk.

[@ASPVids]

I was about to go to bed, but then ScareTheater uploaded... Guess I’ll sleep later.

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[@KEWLV1C]

Knot Specialist: “Finally my occupation has some use!!”

[@alexanderblitz4569]

Knot specialist: "my expertise? Really? I haven't been used since 1987! This is the happiest day of my life!"

[@alitaher9558]

Im sure they are more usefull then it seems

[@lucystarlight8887]

Symptoms of Dissociative Identity Disorder typically emerge at about 5 to 10 years old. Even if Cindy did have a sudden onset of DID, it's hard to believe that nobody noticed the body in 2 weeks. There's no way she did this to herself.

[@spoopyweeb326]

Imagine getting stalked and its sponsored by Audible.

[@MrBellerose]

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[@johnnytakisawa]

(In a time with no cell phones) "Hey help!! The house is burning!! Call the fire dept!!" Man starts running to his house to make the call "Well that's suspicious he just ran off without even making small talk...."

[@RealClutchMcGee]

Oh shit I forgot this was in the 80’s

[@jjcoola998]

Yeah exactly he would have to run home or t9 the neighbor but maybe they didn't recognize them and thought they would go to the neighbors house or something?

[@johnnytakisawa]

@@jjcoola998 well they probably never received a 911 call and they probably asked the person that was told to call to come forward and they obviously didnt. So they knew it was suspicious but not because he ran.

[@danielshipp198]

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[@she5139]

the ex husband being a psychiatrist is a red flag to me

[@drelocs2878]

Nah the friend Agnes to me

[@backwardsbandit8094]

Yep. And he suggested a diagnosis that just doesnt work like that at all but the police wouldnt know that because it's not a well understood diagnosis by people who dont have it.

[@Jeff-qk7jj]

@@backwardsbandit8094 yep, I thought the same thing. People don't just develop DID in their late thirties/early forties, and it doesn't seem like he believed that to be the case when he was married to her. He only started going on about it when he realised he was a suspect.

[@linsidious11]

A psychiatrist who probably has access to memory altering drugs as well

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[@kateajurors8640]

Roy saying she had split personality disorder even though she spent two months in a psychiatric ward and they pretty much said no she's fine the biggest issue is the stress of her life being at risk and no one believing her. Makes me think he was an abusive relationship and maybe gaslighting or dragging her throughout a good part of a relationship that she may not have known of. It could have caused the inconsistencies with her stories. Abusive relationships do do this to discredit the other person and make them think that they're insane. Gaslighting doesn't just have to be making you question yourself but it can also involve flight drugging as well. And making others discredit you or making you discredited with anybody else. It makes you second-guess your own sanity so much you do become insane. And wondering if he didn't know someone in the police department. I mean to be honest you can literally turn on Police radios on your phone and hear them. You can figure out if they're staking out a house and just watching it. They talked over there radio all the time. They double-check on locations of vehicles all the time.

[@wired4933]

Well to be honest, DID does disguise itself as being a normal person. So I'd have to give him that. But then again nobody would know and back then nobody was educated about the disorder. I am just sick and tired of everyone putting the blame for negative behaviour on this disorder without any further research. It puts a bad light on people who actually have DID. To develop this disorder someone had to be going through years of extreme abuse in their early childhood and there was no talk of that being the case with her. If someone goes through trauma in later life, they can simply just snap. They can develop mania, psychosis, BPD and other things that make your brain do weird things. I absolutely agree with you by the way. And I don't understand why nobody has thought about any other suspects in this case. I don't think this was a suicide.

[@plvthena]

Even today many mental health professionals don't believe DID exists in the first place. So it's not surprising that she could've had it and not been diagnosed. I'm not saying she did or didn't have it but I don't think those 2 months really hold any weight.

[@somebvnny]

i think some of the most dangerous abusers would be someone like roy who has extensive knowledge of psychology and how the mind works. he'd know exactly how to gaslight her and manipulate her.

[@youllbemytourniquet]

I think you hit it right on the money! I feel that the ex husband is guilty, there’s too much pointing at him

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He probably was and got let out or bailed

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“I was trying to push his knife away” No one: KZbin captions: *applause*

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[@unirytmi5020]

if that body was out there for more than a few days it wouldve been at least partially destroyed by wildlife. also, the fact that a knot specialist could tie the knots in a few minutes doesnt mean that cindy could, along with the fact that tying your hands and feet behind your back is a weird thing to do in a suicide attempt. this case is most likely a murder my guys.

[@munchycrackrs]

yeah i agree it’s pretty clear it’s not a suicide

[@jayydogg7110]

Girl: is tied up, drugged and strangled Police: Hm looks like a suicide to me

[@iaopwn9463]

She was insane in the membrane and wanted attention. It was a suicide.

[@theoriginalCmac]

I'm sure it wasn't decided that easy. After taking all of the information in and doing an investigation, they concluded it was suicide. They didn't just look at the body tied up like you said and arbitrarily decide it was suicide.

[@jayydogg7110]

@@theoriginalCmac Lmao yeah I commented before watching the video which in retrospect was pretty dumb

[@jayydogg7110]

Tbh she was pretty crazy and it definitely is possible she tied herself up and stuff

[@reyesenigma7943]

@@jayydogg7110 Why do you keep trying to make it seem like she's crazy? That's just ignoring the whole last chunk of what ScareTheater said in the end, along with how she was in a mental hospital for 2.5 months and didn't exhibit any "craziness". Mental illnesses don't just choose to show themselves whenever they want like some Gotham fuckin' villain.

[@pastel6408]

Dang, this is the worse case of stalking I have ever heard. Poor cindy. ( I am sorry I didn't know that there are other cases of stalking that are worse, no need to yell at me.) [ the thing I don't get about this case is if she was crazy and mentally ill, how would she tie her hands and legs together and how can her body not be noticed by the jogger and the teens, but when the cops came and looked into the body, they said it had already been decomposing for 2 weeks?? Sorry my memory of this video is kinda blurry. But doesn't this seem suspicious or something?]

[@goldo1107]

She wasn't stalked man. Are you serious? She did all that to herself. The cops never in any instance found any evidence that there were other people doing it to her. Only more mounting soft evidence that she was doing it to herself. Plus family members said that the person that recorded the message def sounded like her. She was just nutz. The story itself of her doing all that to herself including leaving that message for herself is creepy as hell.

[@nullbuttler5908]

@@goldo1107 how are you so sure, I mean the man did run away after he was asked to call the fire department. Also nearing the end of the video, the time of the bodies decomposition and the location is just inconsistent. Overall don't be so quick to jump to conclusions.

[@LunchSays]

If you look at this case a little more, and not a little 16 min video. You would agree with the official report

[@nullbuttler5908]

@@LunchSays no I don't think I would. Plus overall the police made many mistakes throughout the case. My case still stands

[@goldo1107]

@@LunchSays Right, this is not the first person on youtube to do a vid on this case, lol. I've seen it like 5 times already and have googled and done a bit of research on it. The content creators on youtube try to make it seem a little bit mysterious than how it appeared to the police that investigated this, lol.

[@kibblesona]

Roy Makepeace's history in the field of psychiatry could definitely explain a lot in this case. Gaslighting Cindy is a very possible explanation, from the voicemail he allegedly received to claiming that she had "split personalities" known now as DID. He could've very well painted her as a "crazy person" and his profession as a psychiatrist being used as to convince law enforcement that he knew what was "wrong" with her. We know that she alleges abuse during their marriage as well as her claiming that he was in fact her stalker. Being married to a person would certainly grant access to information like location, identity (even after legally changing her surname), etc. We should also consider that in the time period that this took place (late 70s-80s), domestic violence legislation was nowhere near the level it is today. It was hardly acknowledged as a problem and in extreme cases that WERE in fact investigated by police, the men were listened to more so than the women. I'm not going to rip on a dead man and say he did it but given the evolution of psychiatry, domestic violence laws, and forensic science, I think this case would have a totally different investigation (and possibly outcome) in today's society.

[@kibblesona]

I know a LOT of things don't add up in terms of Makepeace's sole involvement of the stalking and eventual death of Cindy James. I think there were multiple parties involved, regardless if one of those people was indeed Makepeace. This is far from a clear case and like you said, the likelyhood of there ever being a clear verdict is scarce. Take everything I say with a grain of salt, I'm merely speculating and I'm sure with more research, I would have a different analysis of it all

[@ssharkbait]

@@kibblesona also saw comments about her involvement with the police chief who during the surveillance period insisted they had to sleep in bed together. Being that he was the chief he could easily get rid of evidence or influence the outcome of the case.

[@AcherontiaStyx]

Also, wouldn't it be really easy to fake that voicemail as a way for him to create an alibi? Why would he even have that in the first place, the message didn't refer to him at all.

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[@dbzgal04]

When Cindy first met Roy and became romantically involved with him, he was still married to his first ex-wife. So there's also a theory that the first ex-wife was behind the stalking.

[@reddie1705]

Did... Did they really treat a stalking victim like an insane person? She LITERALLY had a knife through her hand and was almost choked to death, but yeah, she's crazy I guess

[@aurelionight]

Even if she WAS 'crazy', that still warrants way more empathy than the police showed her. ... Probably intentionally, if the comments mentioning the police chief are true.

[@jayofthedeadd]

Ironic that his last name is "Makepeace"

[@marisolf.limpangog9692]

Hahaha

[@andredavila3731]

Imagine having a last name like that tho

[@jupitershanty]

Riiiiight?! More like Break-tha-peice.

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@@jupitershanty Breakpeace

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@@JM99-Official jolly good call man.

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@Episch the 2nd whats wrong with roblox and i really like his videos so why does it matter

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[@mulberrymoth]

Ok it’s weird though that her husband said she probably had split personality, yet he didn’t seem to mention any times during the marriage that her personality switched

[@97ktlee]

True. And her behavior started only 4 months after the divorce. I looked up the age on onset for split personality disorder, and 80% of cases develop before age 20. So with these 2 pieces of info, I think it would be a huge coincidence if she developed it so soon after a divorce.

[@penyu1913]

yea that is super sus

[@samanthapurdy2053]

Could it have been the husband?

[@looniemoonie5955]

@@samanthapurdy2053 probably, or could have been some unknown third party.

[@misanthropic985]

Her husband didn’t say that, her Psychiatrist did. Did you even actually listen? They said it right after they played her own voice on recording saying dead meat and Cindy. So sick of reading comments like this that are completely wrong!

[@sunflowertripp5401]

Tbh the “woman’s” voice on the phone also sounded like an old man changing his voice to me

[@MistaCatsby]

I would bet money that the husband did it. There have definitely been cases of psychologists being abusive people and using their expertise as a cover, Multiple Personality Disorder was commonly attributed to people who didn't have it. The voicemail and fire make me think there were two people involved. Also police definitely mishandle cases all the time, especially domestic violence cases. They wrote her off as crazy because it was easier and maybe, like other comments have said, a person on the force was involved, cops do cover for each other afterall. Any time a woman is killed and the cops shrug and her husband says she was crazy, I'm going to take it with a pile of salt.

[@user-fe8gx3ie5v]

The ex-husband was in South Africa when that happened, so it couldn't have been him. At most, he could've asked someone to do it.

[@drelocs2878]

I believe the ex had an insurance policy on his ex wife and both him and Agnes as well as her husband tried collecting it. I wonder if she had one.

[@backwardsbandit8094]

One thing that people need to know is that DID is a coping mechanism to escape past trauma, not create more. The alternate personalities exist to protect the core and yes while some of them self harm and commit suicide, it's because its seen as an act of mercy so that they wont have to live fragmented anymore. It's also extremely rare/basically unheard of for people with DID to not have vague memories, it feels like you're recalling a dream but they're still memories nonetheless. Also switching can take some time to transition. Often they just stare into space and and sit perfectly still for a while. Anyone around them would notice this including the person with DID. If she really had DID to an extreme where she was another person, then she would know and most likely seek psychiatric help. It's incredibly suspicious to me that a man educated in psychiatry would profile her with DID knowing the true nature of the disorder.

[@smrtfasizmu6161]

Multiple personality disorder isn't often diagnosed to people who don't have it, in fact, it is an underdiagnosed disorder. He simply lied that his ex wife Cindy had multiple personality disorder.

[@DoziPNG]

@@smrtfasizmu6161 A lot of psychologists, counsellors and doctors seem to be quite unaware of the disorder, or not believing in it if they do happen to know. Often it's switched out for schizophrenia or 'imaginary friends' which can really make someone feel like they're lying even when they're not, and they often get pushed into those boxes. People seem to fear sufferers of DID like they fear 'psychopaths' or anti-social disorders, when really both tend to not reach the extreme or even be all too similar to what is depicted in movies. It's really damaging and concerning because the people who need help can't seem to get help, or at least not for the right thing.

[@ChicaBuenosAires]

I think Cindy was witholding more information, perhaps in fear people wouldn't believe her (which matches her diagnosis at the psychiatric hospital). I think she blamed her ex-husband in an atempt to cover up for the real stalker. The voice recorded does sound like a woman, so it could be possible she was being stalked by a group of people including a female. We'll never know unless someone comes forward. May she rest in peace.

[@CaptainBarnaby198]

Cindy's sister did it. Roy and Cindy's sister murdered and chopped up the young couple on the cruise and hid it as best they can. Cindy discovered what was going on, and made the claim to the police and nothing came of it. However Roy and Cindy's sister weren't okay with someone knowing what happened and decide she needs to be eliminated. That's why the call saying "Cindy Dead Meat" sounds like Cindy, because it is actually her sister. That's my half-assed theory.

[@scillavanilla5356]

That is actually a really good theory

[@thisreplywillbeuselessbuth9879]

But that doesn’t really add up because they would have just killed her outright since they need her dead. Assuming this wasn’t self imposed, the stalker tormented Cindy by attacking her in over 100 instances. With your theory there’s no reason they wouldn’t have just killed her the first time.

[@CaptainBarnaby198]

@@thisreplywillbeuselessbuth9879 This is true. My initial thought was that she didn't make it known that she knew about the murdering of the couple. Maybe they were hoping she would get the message and not say anything, and maybe she had threatened to release more information or something. It could also be possible that they simply hoped they wouldn't have to kill her over it, after all it was wife/sister they would be murdering. If I recall correctly, it was shown that she was withholding information during her polygraph test. Could be due to her knowing more information about the supposed murders Roy and her sister did? I dunno, like I said the theory didn't have a whole lot of thought put behind it.

[@somemonkeystirnerite]

@@thisreplywillbeuselessbuth9879 well when someone murders they don’t just go for the kill usually people plan which consists of stalking a lot of times so maybe they didn’t kill her instantly for that exact reason.

[@prod2k_]

I'm glad you're back. This video is really sad man ):

[@Herro710]

Why did KZbin hide this channel from me for so long lmao . Currently binge watching

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[@colin72]

A man outside the house ran when someone told him to call 911? That’s exactly what I’d do if someone told me to call 911... run to call 911.

[@phukyerpheefees]

Without so much as a yell of "ok" or even a thumbs up? 🤔

[@colonelcorneliuscornwall3547]

Without an “okie dokie”

[@ericp.2879]

Without a "You got it, champ!"?

[@tinypoolmodelshipyard]

Without a "sure bud"

[@confidewithme]

They probably found out someway that he didn’t actually call 911, for example only 1 call came in or all the callers were identified.

[@fncysntakind]

THIS NOTIF MADE ME SCREAM BRO. I MISSED YOU

[@Not_Westly]

*When he was needed the most, he returned.*

[@dillsw19]

That phone call was literally like something straight out of Scream.

[@mainhoodie]

Is it just me or everybody else also watch the videos because it is interesting even thought they become scared and paranoid of everything?

[@carmensavu5122]

*raises hand*

[@alphascorpii3757]

I am currently already going down a spiraling mess of misanthropy, these kinds of videos being a large factor. But hey, it’s interesting. I wish I were a bird in a not-touched-by-humans place.

[@gurrier3877]

@@alphascorpii3757 that's really poetic

[@alphascorpii3757]

@Conor Purcell A month later, I start to have an infinitesimal appreciation for humanity. I see we have potential, yet many us choose to go a terrible path. Too many. It’s hard to appreciate when all we’ve seem to have done has also resulted in some unwanted side effect, and of course the people themselves can be such carpet burns. Myself included. I pray often to whatever entity(ies) exist in the universe, that whoever struggles will be safe, whoever has not will not, and justice will be served for all. I understand this has the chance of being false hope that could lead to disappointment, but I stay by it. Another thing that adds to my hate for 90% of mankind is my love for astronomy. When stars like UY scuti exist, and definitely much bigger, what’s the point of us? The only thing to wonder about now it how far we’ll get in space exploration or if we ever will, will we ever be an interplanetary species? I better focus on the greater parts of us, or I’m done for.

[@mainhoodie]

@@alphascorpii3757 Wow, shakewho?

[@VioletValk]

The king has returned.

[@marveldc5146]

Get this man a shield 🛡

[@markgrech309]

ScareTheatre please never EVER leave us

[@cloversonthehill]

I don’t believe in heaven, but god I hope Cindy is there. She doesn’t deserve what happened to her

[@user14690]

Sucks that she had to go through this slowly and be confused and scared, rather than just one time. It’s really sad and depressing, poor lady :(

[@user-fe8gx3ie5v]

No one does.

[@4KT-AL]

No one cares

[@drillbit8280]

@@user-fe8gx3ie5v people believe in heaven

[@r.c.l2569]

God is real. Seek him

[@crystalsmith5062]

I have missed you and these cases. Welcome back

[@johntaylor1416]

I was beginning to think you quit youtube. Im glad to see a new video upload. Keep them coming bro.

[@MW222-s8u]

I have been stalked in the past I was lucky to get out alive, poor Cindy is one of the casualties that didn't 😔

[@Sb_Bry]

I'm glad you're ok:)

[@sham9505]

What did they do?

[@vanajalekkala5098]

@@sham9505 probably just following but nothing violent

[@godza8107]

@Andrew Kristensen ...

[@m.shoaib1172]

@Flower 34 me

[@LosRikos]

Im leaning on murder pretty comfortably, Humans are strange animals. There are very plausible reasons for EVERY single thing in favor of suicide. Lying in a ditch with amnesia? hmm interesting it involves a stocking, were they hers? we need very minute details on these things. amnesia could have been brought about by a possible drugging. that may have been an attempt at her life, the only reason we have doubt is we dont know if she took a drug test after that. What the precautions are. etc. What do yall think? We already know about polygraph testing and it's not acceptable in court because it relies on the nervousnessbof a person. She was very shaken up about the whole ordeal. going into making a firm statement about a stalker is terrifying in itself. X for doubt boys.

[@jupitershanty]

Ahhh.."I'm leaning on murder pretty comfortably. " Mind if I use that in a song?

[@citizen694]

the death was actually ruled out as an “unknown event” i don’t know how they got the idea that the polygraph was indicative of false statements when this thing called ANXIETY is a thing. she was on morphine if i’m correct. ex husband is da man in my eyes.

[@kateajurors8640]

Yeah probably murder I mean I live in a neighborhood and I've only called the pump two times and more so to just kind of have someone turn down their music at 4 a.m. that is literally shaking my windows. Call the cops because there was an aggressive dog roaming around the streets that was foaming at the mouth. Animal control that I needed to have the cops called First and they would come out with the police. So I called the police. And they treated me like I was some crazy bitch that calls in over the grass being too tall. I've lived out in the country and quite frankly I don't want to call the cops for anything. But I could tell this dog was probably rabid and I'm not allowed to discharge Firearms inside the city limits. Also who knows maybe the dog had just gotten into something and was sick. Definitely didn't want to be shooting anyone's dog especially when I know little kids are up and down the road. I'm wondering if she didn't get treated like this as well. We literally have a condemned house at Ben next door to us for about 10 years it's been condemned before I've ever lived here. There were over 30 people who are doing meth and crack living in that house at one point. The new homeowner had come and tried renovating things and tried getting rid of them. I had to start calling the police whenever they showed because they were stealing water and electricity from me. Cops acted as if I was the problem not the 30 people living in an abandoned house that all the other neighbors had issues with as well. I eventually relied on my neighbor rather than calling the police. What if her stalker knew someone in the police? Or paid someone off. They obviously believed him saying she had split personality disorder. That's signs of him being abusive right there he's gaslighting her and making her seem as if she's insane to discredit anything she says. But cops don't see that. They see one lady calling him all the time she ain't dead yet and if the guy is broken in and stabbed her in the arm if you wanted to kill her he would have so they were probably thinking she was staging this for attention since she's divorced.

[@oriaaane]

Murdered by a very manipulative and intelligent man. If only drug tests were done more easily then. If this happened now, she would go to the ED and the first thing they would do is a drug test. Though tbh I think her own drug use is an issue in this, given her appearence.

[@oriaaane]

@@kateajurors8640 That first one is a non-emergency thing, there's a number for that, don't waste their time

[@oldrussianlady7110]

Finally u upload I’ve missed my favorite KZbinr

[@MrsKwan-fz6mf]

Your videos are always a treat and darken my night.

[@chughes415]

Audible has the in-depth podcast about this case right now. I just binged like 6 hours. It’s heartbreaking.

[@MintyGrreen]

"Cindy, dead meat" I felt sick to my stomach

[@Snatchystashy]

@@piebagels She did it to herself. It is evident if you do the research.

[@nuclear9977]

@@piebagels they were playing with their food

[@joshhh1230]

Please upload more. I understand quarantine has been tough, but if you are running out of ideas or anything please go to your subreddit - there are so many great video idead. If there are other issues with uploading or personal life please tell us because as fans we look forward to uploads and sometimes can be left hanging when no video is uploaded for weeks. None the less, great vid, Scaretheater :)

[@user-hp7qn1em5m]

This sounds like the real life version Of The Invisible Man

[@852internationalconnect]

Damn right. Earily similiar

[@TeenageStudentNinjaKid]

it sounds more like scream to me like with the phone call “cindy dead meat” it’s very simmilar to the phone calls in scream like “sydney..”

[@BG-ph8hp]

More like “Gone Girl”.

[@M_K-Bomb]

This is a really intriguing case. Like, it has a fair bit of depth so much so I could see it being adapted into a full story. What a great find.

[@PooDotStinkPants]

Great to see another video from Scare Theater, hope all is well.

[@misslissy7795]

I couldn’t imagine having DID, let alone DID where one of your personalities wants to harm or kill you. As they say reality is often stranger than fiction. I don’t believe she did this to herself nor do I believe she had DID, but there is many, many unanswered and unanswerable questions in this case for sure.

[@brooklynnlaurick1859]

A person with DID living with an alter that is trying to kill them is actually more common than you think. The thing about alters is that they are there to protect you from trauma (it _is_ a dissociative disorder, after all). Unfortunately, "protect them" can be misinterpreted as "remove them from this traumatic world." Consequently, the alters make attempts at harming the system (and therefore the host) in order to cease the trauma. This is one reason why suicide rates among DID patients are so high. The reason I don't think this is happening here, though, is that an alter's attempts at suicide don't usually include tying themselves up or leaving themselves in a ditch. Remember, this is _alter's_ body, too. Their "job" is to remove trauma, not cause it. Either way, it is a sad situation. She didn't deserve to die so young regardless of how it happened.

[@backwardsbandit8094]

@@brooklynnlaurick1859 alternate personalities can be suicidal but it's out of mercy. They wouldn't leave her malicious and threatening messages as that would only create more trauma for her.

[@brooklynnlaurick1859]

@@backwardsbandit8094 yes, I totally agree. That about sums up what I was saying.

[@somemonkeystirnerite]

@@brooklynnlaurick1859 yeah it’s pretty weird if you think about because it’s like a parasite taking over someone’s body but it’s their own personality taking over their body.

[@dustinchen]

u just wanna blame it on a man lol

[@HidinginmyHome]

I have experienced a stalking incident too...

[@BSNetwork]

You have a great series, I hope you're covered by a big horror channel

[@HidinginmyHome]

@@BSNetwork I just want some help.

[@Ghostofthegallow]

Nice series bro :) keep up the amazing work

[@SkeletalsBoneWorks]

@@HidinginmyHome keep up the good work amte

[@grim_reaper_luckydeath1416]

Really tell me

[@Gladiux0]

I feel like audible is stalking me at this point.

[@myatrx7105]

for real

[@UKEDNHAT7]

We missed you bro, every time you upload it's automatically a good day.

[@SpikeLaur]

i get scared easily so ;-;

[@zimtheailen1919]

I dropped this channel after Tyler’s Last words. I only searched you up to see if you were still active. And I have to say you have come a long way. I just have to Congratulate you

[@yuurou7927]

From my experience and guesses: 1, People can be blind af, the body sat there for 2 weeks until the jogger found it is not impossible. 2, Cindy was extremely unlikely to be suffering from a severe enough mental disorder that can lead to suicide. 3, Multiple suspect murder probably is the No.1 possibilty, the ex-husband had no motivation to provide the woman voiced clip, in fact he has no motivation to record it. People don't just keep recordings like that and when the police came knocking with no hard evidence on said matter, people usually will not make the matter more complicated. If the police got no dirt they'll go away eventurally and the current matter will resolve itself, so why provide voice clip? The only explanation would be mental pressure to Cindy. Cindy's mental health was harmed by "people don't believe her", providing a voice clip to the police showing a possibility that Cindy had mental disorder would only make things worse. It did lead to her being convicted into a mental hospital which decided she had no sydrome. 4, When people are under attack and constant threat, their judgement will be clouded, so Cindy's multiple unreliable accuse towards her ex-husband can be explained by this. It cannot be counted as evidence for her possible mental disorder.

[@resavaccc]

Yeah no, there is no way it was a suicide, it's physically impossible, someone murdered her and the police covered it up

[@hermesapollo7783]

That voice message gave me chills. Absolutely terrifying that this could happen to anybody.

[@Pobloproductions]

When you say you’re the first but you’re really not

[@hackernews5280]

Mann.. the longer vids from you are a blessing give us this more often 💓

[@danielthepenguin]

It takes a long time for scaretheater to make videos but it is worth the wait

[@Chimpmanboom]

When police have no leads...”meh suicide”

[@aj-sj6xc]

Honestly this case is terrifying to me, imagine someone is always stalking you in your home and you cant do anything about it.

[@duruozzz]

Hey ScareTheater, hope you are doing well. I live in Turkey and sadly femicides are very common here. Since this case ressembles a femicide, I had the idea that maybe you can cover up a femicide story on your channel. It would be absolutely great for us Turkish women and girls because we fear every time we go outside yet nothing is done to protect us. After your videos, I become interested in the cases and do my own research. Perhaps if you do a video on a Turkish femicide, people will learn more about this crucial and fragile topic.

[@thedimitrije384]

Your country is not only against women,but against its neighbours civilians.Constant bombardment of Armenia,Syria,Yemen.

[@thehendo5824]

Димитрије Цветковић And? Is the commenter personally bombing those countries? No. So be quiet.

[@duruozzz]

@Idk Idk do you live in Turkey or are you just criticizing it? Not to be political but every country has its good and unfortunately bad sides :/ Every day there are new conflicts concerning different countries. It can be Azerbaijan and Armenia, USA and Iran idk you name it. Its not for us to decide who is 100% good or 100% bad because there is none 🙃

[@duruozzz]

@@thedimitrije384 I didnt write that comment to blame the government because it isnt only the Turkish government who doesnt prevent these femicides to happen. As we see in this video, which was not in Turkey, the ignorance of murder of women are everywhere. I wrote that so that people can be aware and learn more about the lives lost, not just blame the government for everything. Although the government "helps" the killings by not punishing the killers, its still not government who decides to kill innocent people, its the citizens themselves and every country has its citizens. Im not even going to get political and talk about Azerbaijan and Armenia, and Armenia's attitude towards Azerbaijani women...

[@luellapenvennen6623]

I’m so sorry you are living in the middle of that. I won’t comment on political stuff or my personal beliefs, except to say that my heart goes out to you. You deserve to live a healthy, safe, and free life. ❤️

[@NibblesTheGuinea]

scare theater bro I've been here since day 1 I saw you're channel grow from less than 100k to almost 1mil now I went back to your vids bc I was bored and im so glad you finally blew up you deserve it

[@fetalalien1369]

This channel always churns out good stuff.

[@Babyclownn]

When I worked in the funeral business my main job was removing the bodies and you would be surprised how easy they can be to miss given the right circumstances. If they had relatively little fat, the area was cold to cool, and low humidity decomposition can occur without having a noticeable smell. I’ve had a few people tell me they had walked past where a body was on multiple occasions and can’t believe they didn’t notice. As for the other circumstances, I can’t really say, but from my experience, yeah they totally could have missed it.

[@mdstanton1813]

Grey pubic hairs...I've read about this case before but didnt recall that...love your level of detail Man your channel is big now. Well done ❤👌

[@hypocriticalsatire3966]

That notification gave me a nose bleed

[@loganmansiongames]

Thank Goodness you're not gone, ScareTheater! I missed you!

[@birkabein]

Hello Mr Theater thank you for providing me with this content

[@z0mb1egutzz]

As someone with Dissociative Identity Disorder, this straight up couldn't be that. The hospital would have noticed her dissociations at the very least. Many systems I know also have more than one alter, several of which are there to prevent the body coming into harm.

[@kuraikusanagi7892]

Not just that. The knife not getting fingerprinted, the cigarettes and pubic hair, the guy who ran as soon as her friends asked him to call 911, the fact she was found in that building a week or two after her death, yet NO ONE who had been there had seen anything? Yeah, this was a murder in my opinion. And the police failed. Then tried to cover their tracks by ruling it suicide, even though the coroner said they weren't sure

[@thatdudederek8]

Scaretheaters alive, thought the government got you

[@elfiebranford9330]

This is definitely one of the most suspicious incidents I've never heard of, at least until now. The death being ruled as a suicide doesn't even sound just fishy, it feels like there's more behind it.

[@solarred8]

Finally you're back, take me away into another mystery.

[@somedude2384]

This is really horrifying. This is a nightmare come true. Glad you've returned btw

[@ded3944]

We did it boys, he uploaded

[@greeny5727]

"This video is sponsored by audible" after ''in 1889 cindy james was found in an abandonded house dead and tied up" bro i cant stop laughing

[@battykat7086]

"Split personality" is called DID (dissociative identity disorder) btw! Anyway uhhh why DIDN'T you mention the police chief being a suspect? That's a pretty big piece to have missing....

[@pimentocheesesandwich839]

No one cares

[@bv83x]

@@pimentocheesesandwich839 pretty sure some people were genuinely curious considering it's relevant to the video

[@Lo0ny_T0ons]

No one asked 🍷

[@Javii1]

i believe it was called multiple or split personality back in the day. I could be wrong tho

[@spugintrntl]

Hey, I was just thinking about you last night, wondering what you were up to. And here you are! Welcome back!

[@WilliamMckenzie-fg8qt]

It's always a good day when scaretheater uploads

[@Aguilar_Ernest]

Nice to see you've uploaded a vid. I've recently subbed to you and been going through your vids. I have enjoyed your content thus far. 🙂

[@buffor-664]

I had my volume on loud cause I was listening to music, and I forgot, then I clicked on the video

[@pookiedukie4967]

*THIS VIDEO IS SPONSORED BY AUDIBLE*

[@buffor-664]

PookieDukie yeah that's what it was

[@brooklynnlaurick1859]

I usually have my volume off when there's nothing plugged into the audio port, but for some unknown reason it was on full blast and when I clicked on the video my whole family got to hear *"THIS VIDEO WAS SPONSORED BY AUDIBLE-"*

[@buffor-664]

Brooklynn Laurick I had Raycons too so it was unintentional earrape

[@torrinmcgeehicks8698]

Mommy scary Theater ur back yea!!!!!

[@ASPVids]

...”mommy”?

[@torrinmcgeehicks8698]

@@ASPVids is he not ur mommy?

[@hornyleftbuttcheek856]

Lol

[@JM99-Official]

yes

[@D3arD8ughter]

Wow

[@Saint_Dan132]

Great to hear from you again bro, Stay well

[@kapatidtomas]

I am so committed to doing my school work that I forgot that this channel actually uploads, back for a bit then I'll be back doing my school work

[@PatrickC139]

Bedtime stories actually did a pretty good segment on this case with quite a number of details.

[@GGTaino]

“Two grays pubic hairs” lmaooo

[@jd6493]

I listen to this at 3 am and I literally scared that I can't sleep

[@sonical232]

good

[@intergalactictitanium]

Good

[@KawaiiPinkPunkStar]

I had this case saved on KZbin but the video I had didn't have this much info! Thank you for this.