Joe Frazier vs George Foreman | Big George Foreman

[@VannTheDawn]

In the real fight, you can clearly hear Angelo Dundee screaming “Stop the fight” before the last 2 knockdowns. It further enforced how dangerous Foreman was, when Ali’s trainer was scared Frazier was gonna die.

[@ppuh6tfrz646]

I heard someone screaming 'You're gonna kill him' not 'stop the fight'.

[@KeithFroehlich07]

Dundee was screaming stop the fight I believe when Tim Witherspoon fought Larry Holmes (joke decision by the way).

[@rickmason6157]

All facts! Dundee was screeching loud "Stop the fight"

[@nolaanderson8770]

Frazier was the undefeated, undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. George knocked him down SIX times in TWO ROUNDS and the fight was stopped. The movie should have shown all 6 - especially the knockdown that got Joe airborne. The movie would not have suffered from being 90 seconds longer.

[@samantharay6098]

@shiningbluenebula incredibly foolish comment.

[@SimplyThatGuy12]

@shiningbluenebula Well that's what happened. It doesn't diminish his memory or respect. It just shows his heart and determination. Nothing wrong with that.

[@Mac1993.]

Frazier got up fast and there weren’t no 8 count according to the actual fight

[@siddigelshareef8633]

"Down goes Frazier!", "Down goes Frazier!" Brilliant 😅

[@MikeMJPMUNCH]

Funny here they only show Foreman knocking Frazier down three times when in the actual fight it was six.

[@thelevisullivan]

And they show Joe on his knees when the ref stops it.

[@EraldoPiccione]

Sure?

[@Respect12948]

@@EraldoPiccionedropped 3x In Round 1 then 3 more in round 2 Frazier didn’t stay down once he got up every time

[@thomasn3882]

More petty stupidity...

[@Xulqvv]

I said the same thing

[@hb120877]

George Foreman actually lifted Frazier off the canvas with an Uppercut...

[@craigwheeler4760]

In this case, the movie actually couldn't sensationalize it more. He literally bounced Joe Frazier all over that ring like a basketball. The problem with Joe Frazier's style was that it could be savagely beaten if you had the power of a Rocky Marciano or a George Foreman. The issue is that the circling and recovery techniques that Ali had were not in Joe's style. He just didn't have the mentality or the skill set to keep away from George. It's a matchup issue, not a pure skill issue. The perfect boxer was Joe Louis. Joe Louis could have beaten Foreman the same way that Ali did. It would take him some film study, and a few rounds to figure it out, but Louis's super high ring IQ and humble attitude in fights would see him win if he survived the first 2 rounds. Much like ALI, Louis had an iron chin. He could, when conditioned, take anyone's punch in his prime. He to shots from Primo Carnera, Buddy Baer and his brother Max Baer. All very large men, all with similar power to George Foreman.

[@AlejandroRivera3031]

Big George Foreman turned the smoke off Joe Frazier

[@EraldoPiccione]

Yes

[@3912James]

More like a pool full of water.

[@diollinebranderson6553]

Sounds like the crowd was chanting "Frieza!"

[@cedricliggins7528]

It's their Jamaican accents

[@christopherthompson1011]

It was in Jamaica so yes

[@brilliant13675]

They also totally messed up Cosells "Down goes Frazier". After he says that three times he says "the heavyweight champion is taking the mandatory eight count and foreman is as poised as can be, in the neutral corner" but they jumbled it up

[@tookster9105]

Damn they just decided to cut out half the fight ig watching joe get up 6 times was one of the most tear inducing moments in boxing with the heart and spirit joe showed

[@code44422]

Foreman’s punching power and sheer strength knocking down Frazier six times is equally impressive as Frazier’s heart getting up six times

[@Kevin-r6s6o]

Why do they always have to take dramatic liberties in movies? What actually happened is much more dramatic than this.

[@kennethgiles8375]

Right lousy reconstruction

[@antoniorakestraw7590]

Punch line "tonight he's just expecting you just a man, but tonight you a beast. Let out".

[@Respect12948]

Joe Frazier was so loved because of his none stop swarmer style he’d be a hero to a lot of people and foreman did him like this in front of those people who loved him Imagine seeing your hero get absolutely trashed

[@anieshajackson1701]

Then the same thing happened to Forman Ali whooped dat ass and made him look like a complete idiot

[@Respect12948]

@@anieshajackson1701 I mean foreman beat his ass for 7 rounds then Ali knocked him out

[@bbcsoaphistorian123]

@@Respect12948he didn’t really beat Ali up Ali was blocking most of the punches and he still landed some great hits

[@STAT87]

@@Respect12948he beat him up for that many rounds? ??? LMAO 😂WHAT😢

[@Respect12948]

@@bbcsoaphistorian123 foreman was the aggressor,had him on the ropes most the fight even if it was mostly partially blocked shots hitting the arms he was still in control of the fight to the viewers and seemed to be beating him up till ali landed those punches in the 8th Obviously throughout the fight Ali had good moments coming back but foreman was ahead on my score card 5-2

[@shawkiamassey8939]

Let’s go George Foreman let’s go we gotta win this man

[@danyael5867]

This was history of the making.

[@rickyramirez2957]

I’m just saying as an Opinion. They should’ve just re acted the entire fight Because in real life the fight only lasted like 5 minutes I would’ve have loved to see George hit Frazier down 6 times like what had actually happened

[@kennorton1478]

What a phenomenal man Foreman is. he no doubt deserves a movie and many books. in the reality show "Better late than never" he was the only recognizable face everywhere they went around the world. not Willian Shatner not Terry Bradshaw not Henry Winkler but George Foreman is worldwide figure.

[@dorkistantkd6233]

1:57 definitely broke the ribs

[@DrHorror9091]

George said he was scared to fight Joe Frazier, but both in the movie and in real life he looked liked he wasn’t.

[@kaydotcontent]

Not even this movie managed to capture the devastating way Foreman destroyed Frazier.

[@gavinfox1678]

I'm sorry but does anybody know how great fraizer is give him his own damn movie but nobody want to talk about the guy who put ali on his ass where is his movie huh

[@ppuh6tfrz646]

Probably because he lost his two other fights with Ali and Foreman put Frazier on his ass eight times.

[@gavinfox1678]

Pal a pro is when you have tried your hardest and no one can say you didn't, a pro is a man who loses his 0 losses and still fights with people like ali and Forman

[@AXL664]

Same with Henry cooper and Sonny Banks

[@taejoonpark9613]

Thats what I'm saying

[@taejoonpark9613]

​@@ppuh6tfrz646getting knocked down is apart of being great, losing is apart of being great if u lr only losses were against Ali and Foreman u must of been a damn good fighter

[@christopherthompson1011]

The movie made it more closer than the real fight 😂😂

[@salimmerikki7027]

Am I the only one see that Joe Frazier deserves a movie

[@borood1188]

No matter how good of an actor this man is he still cannot duplicate Foreman’s power punches.

[@JackSparrow-wn1on]

Foreman said he only feared one fighter and that was Frazier … his mom watched Frazier hit opponents and turn their back …

[@dennisgreene2544]

Just getting started

[@ppuh6tfrz646]

Davis looks more like Ron Lyle than George Foreman.

[@3912James]

My wife's friends criticized how the actor playing George Foreman looked nothing like him and I replied that that's nothing compared to the actors who played the Temptations in the 2 part movie.

[@asadismail6791]

does anyone know the background song

[@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube]

*I usually don't use caps but I have to here* The director just didn't convey what Foreman's punches sounded, looked, or felt like at all. They were UNGODLY powerful with an INCREDIBLY loud thud. I am a retired HW that fought in the '90s and '00s and I had the privilege of being a sparring partner for George before his Adilson Rodriquez fight. This movie didn't come close to making you feel what it was like to be in the ring with him and that sucks. They could and should have. What an unforgivable error. And yes, he did hit that fucking hard. I was lucky enough to spar some of the hardest punchers of the era and a couple of them are amongst the hardest punchers in history--e.g., David Tua and Samuel Peter to name two--and Foreman hit CONSIDERABLY harder. They were heavy like getting hit by a bowling ball ... LITERALLY. He was MASSIVE. His arms were like big legs and his hands were ENORMOUS. I mean ENORMOUS. I'm 6' 4" and have a very big frame and the 1st time I shook his hand, move just disappeared into a black hole. What people don't realize is that they weren't just thick as hell, they were long as hell also. Mass wise, they were likely twice the size of his opponents. He had NBA center hands with knuckles the size of those huge, thick, flat-topped strawberries you see at the store. But the real advantage he had was strength. Holy shit. It wouldn't surprise me if he could just get right up off his couch and curl 200 lbs whilst eating a sandwich. Not long before, right before I stopped lifting heavy weights and went to mid and light weights so I could remain really strong but not be robotic, I bench pressed almost 500. I had an 82 inch reach so that's a lot. If it were 76, it would likely be 600. I couldn't push him an inch ... not a single inch. Read Holyfield talk about this. I would put my entire body into pushing him and he would throw me back with one arm. ONE ARM. It cost me some teeth, half of the vision in my right eye, and I have had a number of surgeries from it, but I feel like the luckiest guy on earth with what I got to experience and whom I got to experience it with. Oh, the stories I have to tell. I've been thinking about writing a book. For what it's worth, I started boxing to pay my way through school. I was part-time for a lot longer than I thought because I made a career out of it. When I retired, I was finally able to get my Graduate Degree in Evolutionary Biology. Cheers P.S. I sparred James Toney when he came up. He's the worst human being I've ever met. I have no idea how he hasn't been killed yet with the world he lives in. He's that bad.

[@94462]

Lol 😂 you must have been hella satisfied when Randy Couture submitted him in their UFC fight

[@13Gangland]

Quit lying on KZbin

[@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube]

That's the engagement you chose to take part in? Aside from that: is was MMA and he was ancient. Other way of they boxed. Grow up, man.

[@kaydotcontent]

Hey dude, in case this is real (which I don't doubt it), thanks for sharing it here. George is by far my favorite boxer ever along with his mentor, Sonny Liston. Can you imagine Sonny had even bigger hands? He was also a little bit smaller than George, but George himself said he was the strongest man he ever knew. Every time they sparred George had to back up. Can you imagine George Foreman backing up from someone? That would be a sight lol The strongest and most powerful boxers of all time those two. Period.

[@kaydotcontent]

By the way, that last part caught me off guard. Is James Toney really that bad?

[@lmiller9178]

This was unfortunately a very bad style match for Joe.

[@H.K.5]

Foreman was a bad stylistic match-up for anyone apart from Ali.

[@RyanJ504]

I'm no boxing expert whatsoever. But it seems like the Ali-Frazier-Foreman fight results were driven by matchups. A smaller in-fighter like Frazier could crowd and stalk Ali, but make himself relatively easy pickings for a big slugger like Foreman. Ali, meanwhile, had the ability to match up with almost anyone in his prime because he had speed, size, and power. Any boxing academics care to comment? Am I on to something or were there entirely different factors that drove what happened?

[@SimplyThatGuy12]

That's actually how it is. I'm not really a boxing expert but I know for a fact styles makes fights. Frazier was tailor-made for Foreman and could give boxers fits like Ali but could not deal with big punchers like Foreman. Joe's handlers also made him avoid Sonny Liston because Liston was just all wrong for him. For Ali, he struggled with pressure fighters but was able to dominate big punchers. Foreman? Could smash small guys but not so much against slick fighters.

[@ronrobertson59]

They should have let Georgia play himself he still looks great.

[@Ffeoli1039]

you don't think that would look silly? He looks great for his age, but he's still almost 75.

[@cerromeceo]

That's the worst Archie Moore casting ever 😅

[@elmerwarfield6741]

Also Foreman didn't get hit by Frazier like it's showing in here, Frazier hook and Foreman admit this miss Foreman by an inch. Foreman kept pushing Frazier keeping him off balance and from going in and under Foreman.

[@jerichobeach2967]

Frazier scored one good clean left hook early in the first but thats all i can remember from him. Joe couldnt get position

[@mustafaatalay212]

several times frazier hit him initial point of match

[@anthonydileonardo8156]

the guy playing Frazier was in a lot better shape than the real one

[@ovuakporoyeabegha9816]

It'll be impossible to make a movie about Frazier now since he's passed.

[@cedricliggins7528]

That AI Cosell is hilarious

[@chad3232132]

Pretty insane Foreman fought Frazier twice, absolutely destroying Frazier both fights, winning by KO by the 5th round both times. Frazier's 4 career losses were to either Ali or Foreman, but his fights with Ali were always hard fought while the Foreman fights were one-sided beat downs.

[@shadicalplayz8932]

2:00

[@richardoliveira153]

Frazier didn't take Steroids 😂😂😂

[@LMLR187]

I think it was a creative decision to cut back on the beating. They didn't want to make George look TOO MUCH of a monster despite what Doc told him in the dressing room.

[@texashistorian7966]

Foreman should have fought Frazier and Norton sooner and put the fight off with Ali a couple years later to maintain longer domination.

[@brandontrinidad9091]

Around that time, Muhammad Ali was found guilty of declining of his draft in the army, and the world champion is vacated. Joe Frazier won the vacated title and had a solid reign but lost it to George foreman

[@jaypandya7441]

Frazier beat Ali, Foreman beats Frazier. Ali beat Foreman. Simple power doesn't matter

[@cedricliggins7528]

In the actual fight Frazier's gloves were yellow and green not orange and green like in the movie

[@emir3861]

nice

[@percyvaughan]

I don't remember seeing Frazier land any left hooks. Another Hollywood dramatized version of the real fight that had 6 knock downs.

[@DvornyashkaDiaries]

This is fuckin horrible to watch honestly. I love Foreman and he is probablyy favorite heavyweight of all time. But man that was public execution.

[@La.2blea.ivan04]

As I watched this film I imagine if George fought Tyson in his career and seeing the fight again in the movie

[@legacyteam5581]

Carlos Takam and James Toney both portrayed Joe Frazier.

[@JAWrightonline]

Toney was a better likeness.

[@JDezi4BVlog]

This is one fight I feel like the movie didn't do justice. It should have been a bigger deal that he knocked down Smoking Joe Frazier 6 times. I mean he literally lifted him off the ground with an uppercut. That's not something you glaze over. Put respect on Joe's name lol

[@TerranceFoster-kw4sw]

George put the smoke out 😂😂😂😂😂

[@danyael5867]

1:03

[@LifeOfRy]

No portrayal of Howard Cosell will come close to Jon Voight’s in Ali

[@dorkistantkd6233]

1:57 oh that was head nvm

[@adiangarcilazo7328]

Any one else think joe looks a little big in this movie compared to real life

[@H.K.5]

Yeah the actor playing Joe here looks around 240-250 lbs even though the real Joe was only around 210 lbs.

[@Fuckyourpoliticaloutrage]

Yup

[@LoganSewell83]

The real fight was much more violent. Foreman almost sent Frazier to Valhalla.

[@WOLFSENT1]

The guy they picked to play Howard Cosell, sucks out loud

[@bekindandmerciful5145]

this doesnt do the real fight any justice. The real fight was the greatest spectale on earth

[@chrisruth7057]

George Forman loved Joe Fraziers style that's why he beat Joe so easily

[@an8dr2a]

Frazier was floored 6 times in 2 Rounds! Damn this Movie is so Unaccurate!

[@keithkimmeysr953]

Frazier was up at 2 for each of the 6 knockdowns in first fight 2 KNOCKDOWNS in 2nd fight he was up quickly for the first knockdown the final knockdown Joe got up to beat the count maybe 7 or 8 count

[@therealkalilarchie24]

2:55 down goes frazier

[@GabeNeeley-gs5lz]

Is it js me or does he look like Apollo creed

[@Blockmount]

1:23 1:41

[@dylanbanks7022]

Phl 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

[@Oneironaut9]

Except, not quite.

[@benjaminmee3751]

That stare down isn’t realistic at all. Joe looked like he was going to murder George. He had a face of stone.

[@rickmason6157]

A stupid change up for the movie.Real life he destroyed Frazier like it was Childs play.

[@Changeproductions21]

"Goahge Foahmen!"

[@deki1ify]

👍😂😂😂

[@Tank4Life]

There's some bad casting here.

[@h.e9536]

Fake news scene. Cosell picked foreman to win

[@wheelinthesky300]

I could do a better Cosell than that guy. Otherwise, good reenactment.

[@alessandrosarnerlla3545]

Knocking someone down aint knocking someone out........i feel sorry for frazier's fans but thats not such a big deal.....it can happen to anybody at any giben time.....cooper knocked ali down wsy back.....and it was far more impressive....

[@JAWrightonline]

The problem with your massive denial is that not only was Frazier knocked down, he was knocked down SIX TIMES IN THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS. And let's be real: Frazier was out on his feet after the fifth knock down.

[@H.K.5]

A lucky punch isn’t the same as getting knocked down six times.

[@Fuckyourpoliticaloutrage]

Frazier was knocked down six times and Angelo Dundee, his trainer at the time was literally yelling "stop the fight" in fear that Frazier was gonna die. Stop underplaying it.

[@housemonkey3000]

😅😅😅 Carlos Takam

[@timburns1499]

Foreman destroyed Frazier

[@paulstephenson5815]

Awful film , so much stuff was made up

[@smokingjoe3173]

james t was a better Frazier impersonator in the ALI movie..than this guy..and he doesn't look like Joe either