Schopenhauer On the Vanity & Suffering of Life

A reading from Arthur Schopenhauer's "The World as Will and Idea" Volume III, chapter 46 "On The Vanity And Suffering Of Life" translated by R. B. Haldane and read by Expatriate. This comes from LibriVox and is in the public domain. This is a version of an upload from the previous channel. Note, the audio has been slightly edited.
#Philosophy #Schopenhauer

[@czarquetzal8344]

Schopenhauer's philosophy is not pessimism; it's realism.

[@LuisFlores-mc2tc]

It is as close to the void you can get without falling in

[@mism847]

It’s not realism at all.

[@Daniel-ef7nk]

​@@mism847so you believe life involves more joy than pain? If you do I think you need to take a more unbiased look at it.

[@nahuelpatania3522]

Exactly. I always thought the same. Saying it is a "pessimistic" philosophy implies that there is a more "neutral" philosophy with respect to which Schopenhauer's philosophy is negatively biased. For me this is simply REALISM. I don't find what Artur expressed false at all.

[@Daniel-ef7nk]

@@nahuelpatania3522 yes it only takes a bit of effort to see that life invariably involves more pain than pleasure, but most people do not think clealry

[@DawsonSWilliams]

Schopenhauer resonates with those of us who have experienced the adversity of life.

[@Dutch_bastard_23]

And those of us who refuse to accept the standard miss America speech type consolations/motivations of: "just go and do what feels right", following senseless and deceptive instinctual drives, "and you'll feel better. Pull yourself up from your dark pit bla bla etc etc" (jordan peterson)

[@mism847]

⁠@@Dutch_bastard_23The last one is true, though. You need to pull yourself out of the dark. And your drive doesn’t need to be deceptive at all, in fact it should be as reasonable as possible.

[@lynnfisher3037]

Everyone and everything experiences aging illness and death. This absolutely is hell. 😂😂😂😂

[@lynnfisher3037]

​@@Dutch_bastard_23BLA BLA BLA Dutch😂😂😂😂

[@languagegame410]

o, beloved Arthur S... one of my favorite German thinkers... how furiously i did feast upon his published works... ravenous in my appetite... and so sorrowful when the last page of the last book was turned before my weeping eyes in this ever dimming world.

[@kimyunmi452]

arthur's books are the consolation of my life and will be the consolation of my death.

[@kimyunmi452]

O..wittgenstein..why are your eyes teary?

[@Animalis_Mundana]

Luckily he tells you it's mandatory to do multiple readings, at least twice to grasp what he's saying. Pretty sure the second time would be even more fruitful.

[@greatexpectations6577]

My prophet, my savior.

[@MMAGUY13]

I never realized that life is only suffering when I was a child I would suffer but not realize it as I get older and I look back at everything. I realized most of the time I’m not happy with school getting up early being off Saturday and Sunday, thinking work is Monday and that gave me suffering all the hard jobs trying to pay the bills The medical problems, my wife leaving me for five months, slamming my fingers in car doors, and now being old and only going to have Social Security to live on which is not enough I hate it life and I look forward to death

[@mussaramadan]

You forgot your first kiss, woman, toy, favorite meal,.......

[@MMAGUY13]

@@mussaramadan if there was no God, then it was not worth it. I’d rather have not been brought into existence and stay sleeping, then to be in a fetal position on my deathbed going into the blackness after a lifetime of struggle. But yes you’re right there are moments in life where it is joyful and I’m taking my cross and I’m going forward. Jesus says he will fold his universe up and make a brand new one made for happiness right now God is dealing with the Devil with man’s rebellion with sin as soon as that’s all destroyed then we will live the way God intended

[@mussaramadan]

​@MMAGUY13 God is real the proof is the universe. This universe is marvelous made by a marvelous God. So we are a products of a marvelous God. The suffering is just one part of that product, and it's necessary, and Jesus came with a message from God to us, "minimize the suffering "

[@MMAGUY13]

@@mussaramadan amen. I have the same worldview as you were in a world, cursed by God at the beginning with Adam and Eve, and I’m waiting for the redemption of our souls and a new creation. In the Bible agrees with me men’s days are short and filled with trouble. You could just look out your window and see war, disease and poverty, but I’m following Christ.

[@mism847]

If you didn’t realize it, there probably wasn’t that much of it. If there was a lot of suffering in ones life, anyone would be able to notice it in themselves without any shred of doubt. I’m sure you’ve had good moments too.

[@tonysandy7803]

Loneliness is a withdrawal symptom from contact with others (unconscious addiction). To be alone is the choice to deliberately withdraw from the company of others (conscious choice). It is the desire for interaction with others that leads to conflict and misery.

[@lynnfisher3037]

The UNTENIBILLNESS of OPTIMISM. Felt that all my life. Now in my old age it screams it's truthfulness.

[@Mostafa.7600]

That's so great! Thank you so much for uploading it.

[@akelofgren9468]

Relief always create new disturbance problems

[@mism847]

And relieve you of the old and put you in a better place.

[@akelofgren9468]

Dangers of life of what can happen shows in that there gives not royal protection but really,shows that suffer can take you for nothing

[@JB-du3qv]

This essay is just one banger after another!

[@lynnfisher3037]

Maybe you should go to your SAFEROOM 😂😂😂😂

[@akelofgren9468]

Schopenhauer is The Great one really because as he say men are regardless to each other so peculiar to everyone

[@bronsomccor2642]

Life is just a slow painful death

[@lynnfisher3037]

Bingo!!!!!

[@akelofgren9468]

I was overwhelmed by

[@akelofgren9468]

Mostly because there is no mam pleiadians christ who helps me fom moron jerks, there's schopenhauer

[@travisedwards8299]

The Will to life , means your true essence self conditioned by Natures tricks . Schopenhauer wasn’t saying that is all we are . There is the Better Will too or better consciousness ( our true self ) will and consciousness is used synonymously with Schopenhauer

[@akelofgren9468]

Of all inhuman crazyness now even my daughter react mental,crying

[@akelofgren9468]

Schopenhauer is so fantastic for so often like Leopardi said that when nobody loved him they could throw him in Tibern,and Lermontov how wengensed girls later for they had earlier punched mocked him.But in another planet where love is reality nobody needs to talk anymore in such loving planet

[@akelofgren9468]

Bright: everybody would decline such a gift if he could see ....it before him,rather a dept from the first day that have been contracted

[@akelofgren9468]

Everyone is just survive by devaur others,the beast a grave of 1000 SO FLATTERED TO BE BORN INTO

[@akelofgren9468]

Immedical soul with heartache every noun

[@akelofgren9468]

As a musicianartist in north l have seldom contact to musicworld,but Schopenhauer

[@lynnfisher3037]

Yeah life is just great. Would like to know who put me here without asking my permission.

[@IbrahimHoldsForth]

25:53 Schopo schmooooozes about David Hume

[@lynnfisher3037]

And that means what exactly?

[@akelofgren9468]

Cant or the days to Joy and knowing whar ever has been were better not to be

[@akelofgren9468]

In 1800th Paris it was HONEY for artists nowadays it is just kickings upperslopeS so it is just good with S.

[@lynnfisher3037]

WTF?????

[@languagegame410]

👍👍👍👍

[@akelofgren9468]

Life rather than a gift[ if knowledge was there everyone would decline it ]more [Cisero Schopenhauer]like a dept that,from 'first day,have been contracted.this can change if some people not more opress others

[@akelofgren9468]

For instance in pianoworld to have mother father, people around who loves you like in case Rubinstein, Chopin Pavarotti so instead we have Schopenhauer this, repulsion:Polansky, Strindberg :a dream play, Martinsson:aniara

[@IbrahimHoldsForth]

who did what now?

[@paulheinrichdietrich9518]

Is that a sentence?

[@mism847]

That is not a sentence

[@lynnfisher3037]

What ARE you blabbering about?

[@akelofgren9468]

Tainted sins(dumb jeks) rain their plaige on men(titan much) immedical soul, heartache every noun, reject every relief OLIVIATION like dogs

[@jasmelsingh4696]

❤

[@akelofgren9468]

Adversity happy artists can not see blind

[@akelofgren9468]

, rather than create a future hell,the sin lies in The world, a kin to hell

[@Andreorlov607]

I wonder what would A.S. think and say about present germany situation in europe

[@akelofgren9468]

I mean it's rare

[@akelofgren9468]

The Will is an EFFORT HOW FRUSTRATE ITSELF,

[@lynnfisher3037]

There is no T in Spinoza

[@sizzla123]

hmm

[@mism847]

Share your thoughts

[@akelofgren9468]

Bright:something agreeable is displaced with something disagreeable,living beast a grave of thousend,we feel care,not absent of care,we feel fear but not security,the way regardless men treat others is injustice,cruel,hard. The way l Wonder why as pianist Rubinsteins lifelove humanlove can hardly be my way or can it ,the bad sometimes brings about the good [Schopenhauer wondering about Leibniz]

[@lynnfisher3037]

Please please stop. No one understands you

[@akelofgren9468]

TO YELL(PUNCHE KICK)3 TIMES A DAY ON HUMAN IS VERY HEALTHY (THEY DID MUCH WORSE AGAINST ME

[@akelofgren9468]

Inhumen love like a tiger hurricane said Schopenhauer, and in Molieres ' Misantrop(nonhuman) and the loved fury' when Alcaste saw his belowed a promiskious gossip one he said go,as in scen from 'Victor/Victoria' when the loving girl erotik got a soap in her mouth from the man think on another

[@IbrahimHoldsForth]

this performance is decent but the narrator blows it by reading Schopo's quotations of other authors in their original language....

[@lynnfisher3037]

Yeah he totally blew it. I'm sure you would have done SO much better. When will we be able to buy your upcoming book? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mism847]

Glass half empty kinda guy. Got a lot of wisdom and intelligence in spite of his illogical misanthropy, though.

[@Daniel-ef7nk]

It us not a half empty glass thing, he showed that life inherently involves more pain than pleasure, I have talked to lots of people and yet never found anyone who claims to have more joy than pain after a little inward look in their lives, not even the most lucky ones.

[@lynnfisher3037]

Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@turtleanton6539]

Indeed. And it is not in spite it is because of it

[@akelofgren9468]

WORLDS EVIL really causes GREATEST PAIN lndivids only exist by devaur eachb other filthy beats A GRAVE OF THOUSENDS

[@HappySlapperKid]

Badly narrated

[@lynnfisher3037]

Thank you oh great one😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@akelofgren9468]

Men so full of plague so he can't receive Christianity at all:Vianini. Cicero :men is here to pay their peneltry. TANKS MAM FOR THAT

[@lynnfisher3037]

OMG help us all😂😂😂