Science & Civilization: A Conversation with Neil deGrasse Tyson (Episode

Sam Harris speaks with Neil deGrasse Tyson about his new book, "Starry Messenger." They discuss what makes science a unique human endeavor, the tension between respecting scientific consensus and overturning it, confusion about paradigm shifts and scientific controversies, the social importance of probability and statistics, climate change, the consequences of exponential cultural change, social media, social inequality and affirmative action, identity politics and a post-racial future, the wisdom of focusing on class rather than race, and other topics.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is an astrophysicist and the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at New York’s American Museum of Natural History. He is the author of fifteen books-many of them international bestsellers-and numerous articles, both scholarly and for the general public. He is the host of StarTalk, a podcast, and two seasons of Cosmos, televised by Fox and National Geographic. He has received 21 honorary doctorates as well as NASA’s Distinguished Public Service Medal. He and his wife live in New York City.
Website: www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/
Twitter: @neiltyson
November 10, 2022
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[@clouise9722]

I wish sam showed the video of him and his guest in the studio, I think it would really boost the views

[@Alle8503]

I agree, I "listen" with my eyes a lot, very hard to focus if I have nothing to look at, and so much is conveyed with expressions

[@Jason-k-Jones]

@@Alle8503 I'm the exact same, I have to be in a mindstate of deep focus to be able to listen and comprehend everything properly otherwise it goes in one ear and goes out the other where as if I'm able to watch the person speak and their facial expressions it allows to me engage more in the information that's being received, it just allows it to sink in deep within my mind and I'm able to access it with a lot less effort then if I just listened to it.

[@MrSidney9]

@@Alle8503 You’re meant to listen to dish while driving, doing the dishes, or working out (like I am doing right now ).

[@Alle8503]

@@MrSidney9 what a strange thing to argue. I know i can, but as i expressed, it's very hard for me to focus on an intellectual conversation if i can't see the ones talking. When i do the things you mentioned, i prefer music. There's no "supposed to" here...

[@symmetrie_bruch]

that´s actually the whole reason i stopped paying attention to this channel. i don´t think there isn´t a single episode i´ve seen where this precise comment isn´t somewhere near the top. sam either doesn´t read the comments at all or just doesn´t give a fuck.

[@speedymose4965]

Thanks for bringing up SBF. Appreciate you not just ignoring your connection to him. Wonderful episode aside. You two have great give and take

[@crowlsyong]

I would love to hear Daniel Schmachtenberger on your show

[@dustyfairview9062]

Alot of bonus tyson lately. Keep it coming

[@coolbeanstu]

It seems Neil continues to lose contact with nuance the more time he spends dealing with simplistic narratives and questions.

[@andrewomo5429]

Am listening 🎧...hope to learn

[@johnwillis8223]

So I love NDT but I feel like I just listened to 49 minutes of Sam asking questions and Neil sort of commenting on the questions without actually answering them. . .

[@davidcline471]

This is Neil at his best. And his homage to Sam at the end is amazing, really inspiring. Thanks.

[@wasdwasdedsf]

leftist extremist politicvised lunatics think alike, huh

[@hokiturmix]

Please set up the video to have auto subtitle.

[@YiannisANO1911]

This is why everyone should read, even if briefly, the book ''Factfulness: Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World - and Why Things Are Better Than You Think'' by Hans Rosling

[@symmetrie_bruch]

each to their own. but i certainly wouldn´t read anything with a title like that. taking clickbait youtube headlines and making that you´re book title says alot about the crowd you want to attract. and yes that´s almost certainly a publishers title but nethertheless the author had to sign up on that garbage title.

[@YiannisANO1911]

@@symmetrie_bruch if you knew who Hans Rosling is and what work he's done you'd know the book is worth it. Also if you read the book (very easy read!) you'd understand why the book is so important. Its worth it

[@symmetrie_bruch]

@@YiannisANO1911 i know who he is, i´ve seen a few talks and they offered me precisely nothing new. so for me personally it´s probably not worth it at all. that´s not his fault of course i´m sure there a lot of people for whom it does offer something new. i just find it an absolute repulsive title, which just makes it sadder if that title ruins an, as you say, important book.

[@Johnwilkinsonofficial]

"just because an entire scientific field doesnt agree with you, doesnt mean you are correct" - great line for our time 😂

[@HopDavid]

Just because Tyson can't cite any sources backing up his claims doesn't mean he's correct. Jonathan Adler was asking Tyson for a source to back up his Bush and Star Names story. Tyson's response: "One of our mantras in science is that the absence of evidence is not the same as evidence of absence." Tyson often can not find evidence supported his stories. That is because they are nuggets pulled from his butt. Tyson, Harris, Dawkins et al aren't about the evidence. Let this clueless clique become known for lack of critical thinking skills.

[@REALdavidmiscarriage]

lol that was a slip up. But most important scientific milestones were made by people who did mot agree with the scientific consensus and they too were met by extreme criticism! But they prevailed and thats why we are where we are today!

[@HopDavid]

@@REALdavidmiscarriage Tyson's errors aren't wrong speculations at the frontier of physics. He botches freshman math and physics. He gets history horribly wrong. His mistakes are those of a sloppy scholar whose primary goal is to entertain. He has very low standards when it comes to rigor and accuracy. I couldn't care less if his fans think that the James Webb Space telescope is parked in earth's shadow. Or if rocket propellent scales exponentially with payload mass. I do get pissed off when he uses his addled and wrong history to support his talking points. Using false history to push a narrative is a serious offense.

[@REALdavidmiscarriage]

@@HopDavid you have to get more specific...

[@HopDavid]

@@REALdavidmiscarriage I've already mentioned the Bush and Star Names debacle. Where in the wake of 9-11 Tyson has Bush bragging that his God is the God that named the stars. What Tyson calls an "attempt to distinguish we from they." When Bush's actual speech was a call for tolerance and inclusion, delivered from a mosque. When asked to produce the speech he remembered Tyson could not. But he defended himself saying "One of our mantras in science is that the absence of evidence is not the same as evidence of absence." With a great deal of arm twisting Neil admitted he confused Bush's eulogy for the Space Shuttle Columbia astronauts with his 9-11 speech. However in neither speech did Bush try to set Christians above Muslims. That fantasy comes from Neil's preconceived notions. There's also Tyson claiming Newton figured out Principia on a dare before he turned 26. In only two months. And that Newton invented calculus in the same two months on the same dare. I count five false histories Tyson has spread. describing each one would be many walls of text and I have limited time and energy. Also it would require an attention span far longer than what a typical Sam Harris fan could muster. I have made a list of Tyson's bad math, wrong science and false history. Google "Fact checking Neil deGrasse Tyson". Google gives a number of hits matching this title. But my list is hopsblog. For some reason my list is not on DuckDuckGo. My list also has a number of examples of Tyson botching basic math and physics. If Tyson's fans had a clue their noses would be bloody from facepalms. But Tyson's addled b.s. passes for cosmic wisdom among these clueless posers.

[@jestermoon]

Take A Moment Thx Sam. Stay Safe Stay Free

[@parrmik]

his new book should be called "So you want to be a high school science teacher".

[@buckchile614]

Walter White?

[@dirkhullinger1396]

The oil painting wasn't damaged by the soup throwing, but its frame was. The National Gallery released a statement after the protest, confirming that the “painting is unharmed,” despite “minimal damages to the frame.” The museum did not address the politics behind the protest.Oct 18, 2022

[@bourne817]

Was hoping to have a podcast before the midterms about the midterms. Oh well.

[@FlexBeanbag]

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[@dundabird3203]

Sam, have you ever thought of having Greg Graffin on the podcast?

[@tmaris]

Was thinking about SBF and the podcast Sam did with him. Glad you brought it up.

[@jackied962]

well SBF did give all his money away, does that still count as effective altruism?

[@darylallen2485]

@@jackied962 😂

[@TheDiveDawg]

what about DRG or TMS?

[@anewman]

@@TheDiveDawg I believe AOC is a better question. Atleast there you have CRT and TDS as topics to explore.

[@wasdwasdedsf]

​@@jackied962 all of other peoples money away*

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

I love listening to great🧠 brains!!! 😀 🧐🤓🥳 It helps my brain get better too.🤕 I like playing with and trading on the brain market.🤯

[@user-he8qx5nv7y]

Looking forward to this one. Nice one Sam.

[@zorbys1]

Sam is talking tooo long.

[@Jason-k-Jones]

@@zorbys1 so he's not allowed to do an introduction? And he isn't allowed to give out his opinion and reply to what Neil is talking about? This is a podcast, a conversation. This is how it works, I understand you may enjoy just listening to Neil speak and if that's the case, there's countless other videos with Neil speaking alone, he's even got his own book which there's an audible of and he's the narrator so you might aswell watch that if you don't enjoy someone else's voice/opinion.

[@21972012145525]

I can’t believe in 2022 there’s not video and only half the podcast

[@fmradio42]

and they both have millions

[@grahamHAYNES]

Don’t leave it so long next time Sam 😊

[@AGILISFPV]

Please do video along with audio, sam. You'll gain viewership like mad.

[@mousquetaire86]

When Neil started a sentence with "Let's take the bell curve......." -I initially assumed he was referring to the book :)

[@annabee75]

Both Sam and NdgT aren't climatologists.

[@matibraun2023]

Have you ever had a conversation with Tim Minchin?

[@LeesReviews69]

Just started this. I don’t want to cringe though if Tyson doesn’t let Sam speak

[@williamrapp2782]

This might be Tyson at his best. I love his science communication, but he does have his flaws.

[@NilsExp]

What are the costs of this podcast, other than time?

[@matteframe]

editing, production, equipment, marketing, admin... the same kinds of costs every podcast has

[@PhysicsPolice]

4:20 welcome Neil

[@CaravanseraiSouthValley]

Thank you. Save me time, life’s only real currency.

[@stephenbyrneireland]

Fantastic. And Neil's new book is fabulous

[@HopDavid]

So.... Would you say Joan of Arc was burned at stake for being a cross dresser? Or would you say maybe the war between the France and England had something to do with the underlying cause? Tyson is the flip side of Trump. Trump and Tyson are opposites ends of a culture that put tribalism before truth. Tyson has a number of histories that his fans like to repeat. They imagine them to be devastating salvos in the in the culture war. And so they are. Tyson's stories are often nuggets he has pulled from his butt. Tyson likes to say scientific literacy empowers you to know when someone is full of excrement. And we have the delightful spectacle of Tyson feeding one steaming pile after another to his audience of self proclaimed skeptics. Let Tyson, Harris and their clueless clique become known for credulity and dishonesty.

[@user-dk9or8sk1x]

Seems unlikely. He's kind of a dolt.

[@mikhailvladislav8294]

My astronomy playa!

[@miranda92051]

idk the lack of video and the incompleteness of this video makes it a bit difficult to warrant watching it. Interesting guest and host though!

[@myninja1822]

First time I have been interested in listening in a long time.

[@benyamin7363]

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." ~ Oscar Wilde No Sam, what you saw on Twitter is not a distortion of human discourse. It is the honest reality.

[@Brian-nt1hh]

Don’t miss the dialogue between these humans ever

[@matthewkilbride1669]

It’s odd that a seemingly significant portion of Sam’s KZbin audience listens specifically because they don’t like him (judging by the comments anyway)

[@Christopher-md7tf]

They're not really listening, they just like to bombard the comment section as if that's going to achieve anything.

[@HopDavid]

A significant portion of Trump's audience follow Trump to call out his falsehoods. Which is commendable. I don't know that much about Sam Harris. I do know that Tyson is a source of falsehoods. Tyson and Trump are flip sides of the same coin: A culture that puts tribalism before truth. That values celebrity and entertainment more than rigor and accuracy. Do iconoclasts that question your dogma disturb you?

[@matthewkilbride1669]

@@HopDavid a) Trump doesn’t have an audience in the same way Sam does (I.e. a specific forum like a podcast). B) I don’t have a problem with iconoclasts, but I just think it’s a colossal waste of time to spend your time listening people for the specific purpose of disagreeing with them. An intelligent give and take with someone when you differ on certain topics is fantastic, but lurking to pounce on opinions you disagree with is anti-social behavior.

[@jmc5335]

@@matthewkilbride1669 To call the breaking of an echo chamber anti-social, especially considering The Guru's supposed dislike of echo chambers and his supposed support for free speech, is quite ridiculous

[@matthewkilbride1669]

@@jmc5335 Breaking an echo chamber is good, yes, but surely you’d agree there are more and less effective ways of doing so. Most of what I see on here just looks like low-resolution trolling and name-calling, which has the opposite effect, i.e. reinforces the echo chamber. It’s like Trump’s battle against wokeness; all he ever did was feed its flames.

[@N0RZC]

Such a comfortable voice, could listen to this dude talk all day haha (Sam Harris), Neil's got a very intelligent voice aswell

[@HopDavid]

Do you listen to him a lot? And you never smell B.S.? Tyson's credulous fans lack critical thinking skills.

[@MsHojat]

​@@HopDavid I'm guessing that he's referring to Harris, not deGrasse Tyson. Also even if he was talking about NDT, he wasn't referring to the factual correctness of his statements, but merely their voice.

[@saimbhat6243]

It is called A.S.M.R voice lol. It is deliberate and its purpose is to make even B.S sound thoughtful.

[@Solo-ef2us]

Does intelligence usually smell like BS to you? Let me guess you listen to the greatest tiktokers of our time, real critical thinkers.

[@HopDavid]

@@Solo-ef2us Google Bush and Star Names. That was the title of Neil's account of President Bush's 9-11 speech. Tyson tells was Bush was attempting to distinguish we from they by bragging that his God was the God that named the stars. When Bush's actual 9-11 speech was a call for tolerance and inclusion. It was delivered from a mosque. Turns out Tyson confused Bush's eulogy for the Space Shuttle Columbia astronauts with his 9-11 speech. However in neither speech did Bush try to set Christians above Muslims. That fantasy came from Neil's preconceived notions. That is just one of five false histories Tyson uses to slam religion. Tyson also makes embarrassing mistakes when it comes to math and science. He will tell us the rocket propellent rises exponentially with payload mass. Or that JWST is parked in earth's shadow. Neil deGrasse Tyson will drop a steaming pile and credulous people like you or Sam Harris think it's intelligence. That is because you lack critical thinking skills. Let this clueless clique become known for stupidity and dishonesty. 🤣

[@a57hgyygav3mjs9]

Sam and Neil would like to be a flies on a wall on some of those scientific discussions behind closed doors of some our influential organizations/institutions, .... We could have inside presentation of how science works in those organizations/institutions. That is what is missing and could be eyes opening. Otherwise it is a lot of hot air.

[@KarmaPaym3ntPlan]

5:03 to skip past “gosh, how awful about recent thing”

[@juanReflex37]

The BEST Sam Harris.!

[@MSTSomejanBegum]

💚💛💜Wonderful👍😍

[@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy]

09:10 - burn

[@TJ-hs1qm]

21:11 dude science is NOT about believing anything... you measure it and if it fits you hypothesis and if others can repeat it too then you are maybe onto something which might end in a new theory. But please stop saying "believing" in the context of science.

[@GunBreaux]

Why does NDT come off as suave and chill with Sam Harris but arrogant with Joe Rogan?

[@chrisrevel2801]

Him and sam are clowns

[@OneEyedJackNLD]

Ahhh cool! I have wanted to hear these two for a while now.

[@HopDavid]

How is it that Tyson's fanbase are clueless that Tyson is a source of misinformation? Don't you make it habit to challenge claims to see if they are supported by evidence?

[@jeffpatterson4061]

@@HopDavid 🇨🇦 An example of your evidence? I should only take you at your word? By the way, no one is perfect, that I've ever heard of. So why the scornful tone?

[@jmags2586]

@@HopDavid Source?

[@HopDavid]

@@jeffpatterson4061 First example: Tyson's *Bush and Star Names* story. This was Tyson's account of Bush's 9-11 speech. According to Tyson, Bush was bragging that his God was the God that named the stars in an attempt to distinguish we from they. Bush's actual 9-11 speech was a call for tolerance and inclusion, delivered from a mosque. He was exactly the opposite of the divisive demagogue Tyson described. Turns out Tyson confused Bush's 9-11 speech with his eulogy for the Space Shuttle Columbia Astronauts. However in neither speech did Bush try to set Christians above Muslims. That accusation came from Tyson's preconceived notions and imagination. This addled fiction was a standard part of Tyson's routine from 2006 to 2014. It was often delivered to large audiences of self proclaimed skeptics. For example TAM6 and Beyond Belief. Sam Harris et al evidently swallowed it. Evidently none of Tyson's friends ever gave him a heads up. Tyson likes to say scientific literacy empowers you to know when someone is full of excrement. And here we have the delightful spectacle of all these "skeptics" swallowing Tyson's steaming piles, no questions asked

[@HopDavid]

@@jmags2586 *"Bush and Star Names"* was Tyson's account of Bush's 9-11 speech. Tyson had Bush bragging that his God was the God that named the stars "in an attempt to distinguish we from they". When Bush's actual 9-11 speech was a call for tolerance and inclusion. It was delivered from a mosque. It turns out that Tyson confused his 9-11 speech with his eulogy for the Space Shuttle Columbia Shuttle astronauts. However in neither speech did Bush try to set Christians above Muslims. That accusation came wholly from Tyson's cognitive bias. The story came from his imagination and preconceived notions. Tyson told this story many times from 2006 to 2014. For eight years it was a standard part of his routine. He told to to large "skeptic" audiences that included pop science celebrities like Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins or Michael Shermer. Not one of these "skeptics" objected to Tyson's false histories. There were perfectly content to swallow Tyson's fictions instead of doing authentic research. We watch the pundits accept Tyson's erroneous opinions as fact. The Bush and Star Names isn't Tyson's only false history. There are also his false histories regarding Copernicus, Ghazali, Newton and medieval Christians. Tyson has spread at least five false histories attacking religion. And much of Tyson's math and science are also wrong. But don't expect Neil's clueless fans to notice when he botches freshman physics, though. Tyson, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins et al will not acknowledge these errors or make an effort to correct the misinformation Tyson has spread. Doing so would be embarrassing for The New Atheists. Here we have the public spectacle of these hypocrites failing to follow the advice they like to dispense. What happened to challenging claims to see if they are supported by evidence?

[@asafzilberberg6648]

wonderful and much needed

[@DennisMoore664]

Found this one earlier for someone else's video and since it's appropriate here too... "We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special." --Stephen Hawking

[@user-dk9or8sk1x]

Apes, actually. Not monkeys. Guess Hawkings isn't that smart after all.

[@craig.gearhart]

Love it

[@Johnconno]

An asteroid? Can't Titan be renamed after him? Most people wouldn't even notice.

[@jayw6034]

Destiny on Lex Fridman, Neil DeGrasse Tyson on Sam Harris. The content gods are smiling today

[@ManicMindTrick]

Destiny is a half-wif on most topics and manages to be as irritating as Shapiro.

[@PetraKann]

Utter nonsense

[@dylanwynne7757]

@@ManicMindTrick You’ve got to admire lex for his eclectic group of guests though, really keeps you engaged.

[@TheKentuckyNightmare]

Who is "Destiny?!"

[@ManicMindTrick]

@@dylanwynne7757 I would rather see Destiny buried in Internet obscurity. Destiny, Vaush, and Hassan really show the sorry state of political commentary.

[@JonathanLoganPDX]

Einstein physics transcends and yet includes Newtonian physics in the same way that algebra transcends and includes addition and subtraction.

[@JonasAnandaKristiansson]

Yes

[@aroemaliuged4776]

Neil Tyson is an ego with supernatural powers

[@Im_Really_Jesus_4real]

Reading through this comment section and realising what a conceited bunch of know it all’s Sam Harris seems to have attracted as a viewer base

[@Mrguy-ds9lr]

Finally an honest comment. Both these guys fell off the map a long time ago.

[@garyandsandrahamlin872]

I think as soon as we get private enterprise expanding in to space, you’ll see an explosion of progress being made. Governments are too cumbersome and inefficient.

[@hainezy4853]

The internet isn’t big enough for Neil’s head

[@scottmayers2438]

An example of paradigm shift in today's education is to teach 'top-down' through abstractions rather than the traditional bottom-up approach whereby you learn 'foundationally' like Newton or Einstein. This change, while politically necessary to keep students interested in taking science at all, creates a problem in that it favors those who are more trusting UP FRONT of things that should require proof before accepting, those who ca[n] memorize better than reason, and those who are 'clerically' minded. Students are discoouraged from theorizing, for instance. The institutes rely more on copyright accreditation to respect those who came before them rather than be skeptical. You are only permitted to be 'philosophical' only AFTER you invested in and reach a master's degree. Traditional learning focused on deductive logic and learning by understanding step by step WHY some theory is or is not true. Another factor is paywalls that lock out those who cannot afford the access to science that wealthier students are favored for; Much of the direct observation process is denied to the general public. The Lost-cost fallacy also imposes those who invested in four or more years to get to the privilged point of getting the 'proofs' for themselves have a tendency to NOT discredit 'heroes' of the Instutes. There is also a problem with the fact that where some past theories that are logically unsound are not being challenged because of the needed effort to UNDO any or all those who relied on the prior theories. Thus, instead of fixing the problem, you are expected to build from the falsifiable foundations as though there is no conflict by redefining things to sound as though unique and unrelated. [Like how space was deemed not a 'medium' and forced Einstein to find ways to evade it in Special relativity. Although GR later reintroduced it, he still had to turn time into an entity that changes rather than the things within space itself.] I have too much to say on this but will shut up. This is not even likely to be read by Sam or Neil which just proves another paradigm shift: Setting up 'feedback' comment spaces like this that only mislead us into thinking that we matter as an audience and are locked out to actively participate in the debates that are needed to truly understand the issues fairly. [Edit: spelling.]

[@terrencemulligan2082]

Ii read it and agree

[@XXVIII333]

when you talk about smoking and whether or not it causes lung cancer, then I wonder, did they ever look into other data concerning the smokers. Do most of them live in big cities where there is a lot of petrol fumes, or does the majority or a great part of them engage in other activities that causes damage to the lungs. I think often, but I don't know, that such things are not included in research.

[@buckchile614]

The study should have a fruit/vegetable picker, a city dweller and a rancher(who may run heavy machinery) who all smoke. The control can be a non-smoker

[@CodyvBrown]

Sam gives Neil many chances here but Neil just falls back on canned stuff he's said many times before.

[@user-dk9or8sk1x]

He's a fraud.

[@piesho]

6:28 Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait! Is that Sam... laughing?

[@BreckThePanther]

Sam sounds like he inhaled helium on this one.

[@yamishogun6501]

De Grass Tyson's smoking analogy is wrong. He jumped from 8% of chain smokers get lung cancer, but it isn't the case that 8% become chain smokers following their first cigarette.

[@DavesGuitarPlanet]

The irrepressible NDG. First half: 'This guy is a national treasure.' Second half: 'Sure glad I don't live with this guy.' :-)

[@USS-SNAKE-ISLAND]

If you dig into his past, just a little bit, which I did, you may end up, permanently, in the "glad I don't live with this guy" camp. For me, the good of him, doesn't out-weigh the bad. There are better voices for science. He's been given a pass that I don't believe he deserves.

[@stevenlee1448]

@@USS-SNAKE-ISLAND what did he do?

[@davidcline471]

@@USS-SNAKE-ISLAND clearly dont agree with his biased and uninformed take on race in america, but let me guess, you’re as white as i am? Lol

[@wasdwasdedsf]

@@stevenlee1448 uhh, is a leftist extremist who supports all the talking points of the democratic party?? told people to unquestioningly take a batch of rushed, untested chemicals responsible for a 40000 percent increase in vac adverse events in 2021??

[@OTOss8]

I know a lot of people love Neil deGrasse Tyson but I'm not as crazy about him as many people seem to be. I feel like at times he can come across as being a bit condescending. I think his interest in getting people to be enthusiastic about science is laudable but there's just something about his appearances over the years that I'm not exactly wild about. Cheers.

[@TheVigilante2000]

Sometimes less is more.

[@cpobyrne1]

You just need to embrace your inner geek 🤓

[@Theactivepsychos]

Have you listened to the origins podcast with him?Lawrence Krauss and NDT stalling each others flow Nonestop. I love both but sometimes they are incredibly annoying.

[@OTOss8]

@@Theactivepsychos I haven't but I think I will. I appreciate the recommendation. Cheers.

[@OTOss8]

@@TheVigilante2000 Absolutely.

[@sunnyinvladivostok]

NDG putting good ol' heartiness in science

[@bobdpa]

Only 21 honorary doctorates 🙄

[@mikerobinson7206]

Audience capture is another reason some well-credentialed thinkers who otherwise ought to know better become trolls or contrarians -- they want to build their platform and increase revenue, so what's the easiest way to do that? Cater to those who engage most fervently. Jordan Peterson and Brett Weinstein are prime examples. Whether their time in the public eye created or revealed their current personas, it's hard to say. Probably a mixture of both.

[@user-dk9or8sk1x]

Peterson and Weinstein are simply stating obvious truths. While Tyson is full of Woke nonsense.

[@certainperson9869]

Very illuminating discussion. One of the Chinese proverbs tells a story of 6 blind people touching a different part of an elephant and each believing vehemently what the elephant looks like, a wall, a cylinder, etc. It seems scientific discovery is similar to that. We only know the truth if people collaborate and hold discussions together. The problem is that the general public may follow one of those 6 blind people's beliefs to the edge of the world, without any effort to finding out the truth.

[@guilbertbabcock6500]

O Sammy boy, you are something else.

[@robanderson1470]

Lab and life are two different experiments.

[@something-uj4eq]

Has Sam given us his take on Elon buying Twitter?

[@shaneholman902]

I think Sam and Elon are in bad terms rn

[@something-uj4eq]

@@shaneholman902 why’s that?

[@bobf5360]

@@something-uj4eq because Musk is an egotistical jackass who is too irresponsible to control anything more than a toy train set?

[@wasdwasdedsf]

@@something-uj4eq cause sam is has had his brain broken, and is now an authoritarian, censorship promoting, electio meddling, shell of his former self?

[@jrgengrelllykken1083]

Hi Sam, just a comment to your frustration about soup throwing youths: It is difficult not to name Greta Thunberg as the adress of a "youth in need of help". Please look at some of the recent intervjues with her. She is probably one of the most healthy and wise individuals in hear age-group! 🙂

[@link6563]

Ponzi, crashed imagine my shock. I made a comment saying it was a scam on that video also. Am I surrounded by morons

[@aroemaliuged4776]

Sam for your dignity and self worth Please get men that haven’t been ….. Joscha Bach ..

[@yamishogun6501]

A 2015 survey created by two climate scientists had over 1,800 fellow climate scientists respond to over 70 questions. This was an early question: Q: “What fraction of global warming since the mid 20th century can be attributed to human induced increases greenhouse gases? More than 100%… 17% (over 100% due to the adobe effect) 76% to 100%……….32% 51% to 75%………..17% 26% to 50%………….5% 0% to 25%……………7% Unknown…………….9% I don’t know…………8% Other…………………. 3% There is clearly not a consensus in terms of the degree to which humans are responsible for the temperature rise.

[@lonzo61]

It's interesting--no, frustrating--that every time I see Tyson interviewed, there are those who will comment and you can immediately surmise their politics. And the comments are nearly always the same: "This guy is so arrogant, blah, blah, blah." They just don't get it. I suppose it's not their fault, but it's frightening to know there are so many in the the world who think he's full of it. But, I understand people have to have a god in their lives, along with Tucker Carlson. And for those of you inclined to push back on my own comments, I am not a fan of liberal media; and I loathe the WOKE religion. It's actually worse than yours...probably maybe.

[@JBrooksNYS]

Great episode! I can NOT stop farting!

[@nathanwood5977]

😂

[@benyamin7363]

Great. Comments are being deleted here. It should be abundantly clear that Sam is not really an advocate of free speech. Thus is leave from twitter.

[@Mrguy-ds9lr]

Funny, 2 shills for the system, talking about shills for the system. Sad.

[@TheKentuckyNightmare]

Oh, boy, a new note has been dropped into the echo chamber.

[@randygault4564]

No, Newton is not a "special case" of Einstein's physics. Newton is a rounding error that we chose not to care about. That makes it handy, but not right.

[@emiliaanton6897]

Buttons 🤣

[@LiViro1]

Whenever I hear Tyson talk about race or other social issues it seems he's unwilling to follow his own advice and goes straight to emoting. It would be interesting to listen to a conversation between him and someone like John Mcworther or Coleman Hughes.

[@mrpopo8298]

Yeah, I noticed that too.

[@lovewinrobles513]

V

[@Cryptum404]

This channel has gone down hill

[@darnytoads]

Sam suggesting that Greta Thunberg "just needs help" (therapeutic help), now there's that Sam mouth that gets him in so much trouble. Lol. And so unnecessary.

[@matttzzz2]

Neil loves the sound of his own voice.

[@quartzparchmentshears8368]

He's the interviewee...

[@beksinski]

I know, right? Those high falutin public speakers. Always speaking in public.

[@grimtrigg3r]

As do I. A brilliant man.

[@matttzzz2]

@@quartzparchmentshears8368 lookup "joe rogan neil tyson cringe" and you'll be awakened to neil's cringiness

[@whitb6111]

I love it too

[@CDX7]

Really not a fan of Neil the past few years. He does a lot of interrupting and always wants to assert himself as smarter over the silliest details, usually semantic related nonsense. He's been saying the same few things forever now that were profound the first time but not anymore. I wish Sagan was still around to talk to Sam about science.

[@HopDavid]

And so much of the stuff he repeats his wrong. How many times have you heard him say Newton invented calculus on a dare?

[@yamishogun6501]

Harris' ego has also been huge when he discusses climate change and covid - two scientific areas that he has been repeatedly wrong on or uses strawman arguments. Harris isn't a scientist, and it shows. (His "neuroscience" PhD was almost entirely philosophical thesis along with a few undergrad level biology classes at UCLA)

[@HopDavid]

@@yamishogun6501 Tyson was lead author of just 5 peer reviewed papers. And all of those from the 80s and 90s. He hasn't done any research in decades. And, judging by the stuff he gets wrong, hasn't opened a textbook in that time either. I don't know much about Harris but he sounds the same: a pop science celebrity posing as a scientist.

[@mikeferns3572]

I knew when I listened to him on your podcast that there was something fishy with the guy.

[@comets4sale]

Sam softballs Tyson, especially on Kuhn. Expected harder hitting engagement. Not that I dislike Tyson, just go deeper.

[@jameshallahan769]

In any other time period this is completely a judicious handling of the subject. In the context of COVID, however - without giving massive accounting for how millions we’re failed by “scientific” consensus, and additionally for how brave mavericks who went against consensus proved right again & again - this is the most egregious treatment of the subject I’ve ever heard, and my face is tired from cringing 😣

[@baranpourtahmaseb-sasi1421]

This was a podcast host spending more time talking about how they wanted to talk about something, rather than the guest talking about that something. "Command of language" indeed...

[@RyanCoomer]

I work at KFC in a suberb 40 miles west of Chicago and lick the receipts and customers credit cards before giving them back to them at the drive through. Some cards have a salty taste and sometimes the cards stick to my tongue. .......

[@briankaul1201]

bro wut?

[@chickenstrangler3826]

How do you get sticky cards off your tongue? Asking for a friend.

[@LevelofClarity]

This is excellent. Keep up the great work.

[@OKULTRACOMEDY]

You're a doctor?

[@bellezavudd]

Doctor of crusty chicken and finger licken credit cards. Oh boy

[@matthewroush1170]

Sometimes when I'm listening to these talks, I'm reminded of the saying/quote "Think of how smart the average person is, and then realize half of people are dumber than that"...like imagine your cousin Bobby listening to this and getting anything from it, or rethinking his views on covid or climate change or whatever. Then remember that many of those in that half vote. You can teach statistics and science all you want, but remember that half of those kids are going to pass the class with a C or lower without ever really grasping the material, they just barely get through the test. I don't know the solution, but it doesn't give me much hope.

[@mestanley1753]

Your so smart.

[@matteframe]

@@mestanley1753 you make me loose my mind sometimes

[@mestanley1753]

@@matteframe It is said there is a fine line between genius and insanity.

[@HopDavid]

Tyson's following imagine they have above average intelligence. The opposite is true. Tyson manages to botch basic math and physics. And he is really, really bad at history. But his fans generally don't notice.

[@matteframe]

@@HopDavid like him or not, he makes a pretty good (and obvious) point that basic science and the scientific method isn't taught properly or thoroughly in our schools...

[@nyworker]

29:00. "It draws a larger circle around Newton....."....EXACTLY...but this is what they have not done with religion so all they do is try to refute and cancel religion.

[@stevenj6421]

C'mon #SamHarris ....be more ALTRUISTIC .. than this for profit model

[@Mac-ku3xu]

An actor posing as a scientist.

[@annabee75]

Two self serving ego ecco chamber talking"public intellectuals" that don't want to lose that status. Sam doesn't even think of himself as the general public. No ego there.

[@XXVIII333]

some actors do method acting, in the same way scientists should do method research. Maybe.

[@yamishogun6501]

Neil De Grass Tyson - master of the strawman argument

[@randygault4564]

Tyson's approach seems to be to blame the public for being too stupid, instead of blaming the scientific edifices for being too elitist. If you need people to be numerate to make your case, you don't understand your case. Even if it's math.

[@northernbear13]

Sam, at the 13:50 mark: "The cure for scientific mistakes is just more science, more testing, more data, more scrutiny, more criticism." Yes, that's true Sam. And yet, throughout the pandemic, weren't insisting that the solution was clear, that no further data was needed, and that any scientist who dared to scrutinize or criticize the common narrative was a danger to the common good, should shut up, and should be denied any platform to express their concerns?

[@backpain100]

That's because the data was clear on the vaccines. There was no need to spend more time and energy on that subject anymore. I disagree with people losing their job or being censored when they speak out the grain, but that doesn't mean they're right, or their questioning of the vaccine is worth while. This is almost like spending time and energy to find out whether the earth is round or flat. It is clear that the earth is a sphere already.

[@aroemaliuged4776]

Neil desegregation Tyson is so such his own ass