Scott Cawthon Supported Trump, Now What?

[@pimscrypt]

Someone pointed out that I don't bring up the fact that Scott was doxxed and recieved death threats as a result of this controversy. I absolutely should've mentioned that, and I'm sorry. Scott deserves criticism. He does NOT deserve any kind of threats. Nor does his family. If you are upset about what Scott has done, DON'T harass him in any way.

[@edwinve4112]

You should at least give Scott the chance to improve himself.

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

@@edwinve4112 The LGBTQ+ community owes cis hets nothing, especially when it's been revealed that they had been financially supporting politicians that are looking to overturn laws that protect us and install bills that mean to further dehumanize and harm us, and said cis het folks claimed to be our "allies".

[@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936]

You also forgot to mention that Scott donated to LGBT charities. Maybe he votes for the people who actually believe in some of the values they preach. How are you enjoying Biden's presidency?

[@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936]

@@cannibalisticrequiem you must use Twitter a lot. You should also probably know Scott Cawthon, a Christian conservative straight Cis white male, donated to LGBT charities and disagreed on some of the takes the politicians made, he even mentioned that in the reddit post.

[@pimscrypt]

@@mylastaccountgotdeletedtha6936 If you believe that matters I suggest you give the video another watch. I don’t see how Biden has anything to do with this but no, I don’t enjoy his presidency either. I’m frankly opposed to the entire idea of the presidency though.

[@loziclec.1295]

I think the most important lesson here, for anyone who needs to hear it, is "don't give money to politicians." Like, they already have more than enough money.

[@SemenSonyah]

Common uneducated "politics bad" Just know who you giving money to

[@loziclec.1295]

@@SemenSonyah I mean, basically every politician is a billionaire. You can support whoever you want; just don't bother giving them money.

[@Aster_Risk]

I know this isn't a brand new video, but I just found it and wanted to thank you for posting. I knew nothing about this. I'm cishet and so is my husband, and we always try our best to be actual allies. One of my oldest and closest friends is trans, she and my older sister and grandma are ace, and my younger sister is bisexual. I wouldn't need to know people to support them, but this just makes me more personally invested. I am suspicious of religion and knew Scott was a Christian, so I always kept an eye on that. I really thought it would turn out that he's a religious person who puts the well-being of people before profits and god. I'm sad for all the fans out there that this wasn't the case.

[@pimscrypt]

Thank you for this really nice comment. It sadly feels like a rarity in comparison to the flood of people who decided to support Scott unconditionally, with no regard for the people who were genuinely hurt by these news. I'm glad that this video was helpful, even though I dislike being the bearer of bad news.

[@gabrielchastain6091]

I don't see where he was putting his benefits in profits or god He said his reasonings he felt were helping I don't see why that makes him putting profits or god before people

[@typeblaze6557]

So your judging him based on his political beliefs and religion. He has a right to choose his beliefs he has never actually hurt any one with his actions plus what do you think having a religion is you put GOD before every thing else

[@mike-cc3dd]

So much cringe in one post

[@realizingfiction5935]

@@typeblaze6557Exactly my thoughts so many people here acting like its the most evil thing in the world to have different beliefs.

[@godlikeviolence]

As an enby who used to love FNAF a lot, thank you for this video. Much needed in the sea of people crying ""toxic cancel culture"".

[@pimscrypt]

I'm glad that you liked the video.

[@godlikeviolence]

@@pimscrypt Absolutely! And also big creators should realize they have the power to stir up even more hate towards marginalized groups when putting out statements like this. At the end of the day it is marginalized people who are dubbed "oversensitive" and blamed for a creator being "cancelled", even if the creator decides to leave/retire on their own.

[@fatasiandude412]

Scott cawthon did nothing wrong

[@jeremyallen492]

@@godlikeviolence it's hilarious how you say folks are being "oversensitive" about the matter when it was your side constantly hounding him and threatening his wife that made him quit.

[@godlikeviolence]

@@jeremyallen492 I don't stand for doxxing and threatening people, it's cruel and counterprodictive. If this happened to Scott's family then those who did it should be ashamed of themselves, for sure. I still stand by my truth, a lot of people on my "side" never asked for this kind of shitty revenge and openly criticize it. Besides, doxxers don't truly care about the good of trans folks or marginalized folks in general - if they did they wouldn't have weaponized our hurt and made us look "oversensitive" and like criminals.

[@sonotfetch]

I think if anything, this exposed the massively toxic parasocial relationship that a lot of the fans (esp the ones on reddit) have with Scott. This situation was made 10x worse by that. I couldn't even say that I was disappointed without people going down my throat about how: "Scott donates so much to charity he's a good person roarrr!!!". Like yeah, he seems like a nice guy but he has given money to people who are not nice people and do not want to do nice things. I cannot get over the fact that this guy gave thousands of dollars to people who want to strip my rights as a black trans and queer person. I might still enjoy FNAF to some extent, but I will never participate in the community again.

[@pimscrypt]

From my experience of looking at some of the comments right here, yeah. I absolutely agree with you. I guess that can be a thing in most fandoms, but it’s sad to see who people decide to show their support for when it really matters.

[@mori8706]

It also lured away the pessimistic thinkers, that judge a mans actions than for who he is,, (scott donated 50k to the trevor project

[@oofi422]

@@pimscrypt What Cawthon did was moronic and potentially harmful however as a someone who does not claim to know him personally but was there from the early days of the Fnaf series I can say that his heart is in the right place, which is not enough to justify what he's done but enough to be deserving of some respect at least. It was my own decision to support Scott, everyone is entitled to have their own stance.

[@sonotfetch]

@@mori8706 This is exactly what I'm talking about. A mans actions IS who he is. What the hell are you on about? Like, did you read anything I said at all or do you just lack reading comprehension? Scott donating money to the Trevor Project is kind, but his political donations and the people he supports with that are the reason why charities like the Trevor Project have to exist. His donation is a net 0 if he also supports people that harm the charities he's supporting.

[@sonotfetch]

Also very funny how you add that he donated to the Trevor Project as if that's not also making a judgement based on his actions.

[@Zyfiels]

Im glad you made this video. I had been thinking about looking into this matter on my own as it intrests me and being a fan of the games. But im glad I could watch this informative video instead of trying to sort out the "timeline" of what had happened. The same way I dont feel like spending time into understanding the games supposed timeline...💙

[@pimscrypt]

I’m glad that the video was helpful! And yeah that timeline is so confusing that I didn’t even bother covering it in the last Fnaf video I made.

[@derpzgamer2148]

This is an old video, and nobody is going to see this, but I feel like putting down my opinions anyways. The way I see it, there's a big difference between being a bad person and doing a bad thing, something the internet likes to forget in the "black and white" narratives it likes to push. Scott did a bad thing, he donated money to people he shouldn't have and hurt people. He deserves criticism and the LGBTQ community is fully justified in being upset with him. That being said, I don't think he's a bad person. He didn't do this out of malice for the LGBTQ community - he truly believed he was supporting the best candidates for everyone. I can't say I agree with his assessments, but I can at least understand why he made those assessments. It's one of the many flaws with the two party system - you're often forced to choose between two extremes, and support people who say things you disagree with because you still feel like they even out better than their opponent. How many people supported Trump/Biden simply because they weren't the other? Once again, I can't say I agree with the politicians he supported overall, but this goes beyond what's morally right or wrong and more into the subjective areas of politics. The problem with this situation was how people responded. His supporters sucked his dick and acted like he did nothing wrong, which wasn't the case, while his detractors went from criticizing his actions to criticizing him as a person, calling him homophobic/transphobic/anti-LGBTQ, which also wasn't the case. Then you had the asshats who doxxed/harassed him directly, making everything worse. Under all this pressure, I can't say it's surprising he put out an iffy response and then chose to retire for his family's safety. Ultimately, this was just a scenario where nobody was in the right and everything just kinda sucked as a result. I still support Scott as a person, since I think he's a good person, and would happily welcome him back to the community, but I would not defend his actions nor would I give him money if these donations kept happening. But hey, what do I know, I'm just some asshole making a comment on a 6 month old youtube video.

[@Nyoterasu]

I agree with this 100%

[@orion_x-000]

Facts!

[@Halucygeno]

Being openly and unabashedly pro-life and conservative is not just "a small mistake", it's an active belief someone holds for a long time. It's not as if Scott just "slipped up" or "made a mistake" and accidentally pressed the "donate thousands of dollars to conservative politicians" button - he had a train of thought that led to him thinking that was a good idea. He then proceeded to double down on this, so it hardly seems like he has any intention to change this train of thought anytime soon. I highlight being pro-life, as while his other beliefs can be dismissed as "the party system, choosing a lesser of two evils", he openly owned up to being pro-life, which is basically saying that women should give up their bodily autonomy and not receive proper health care because of some ill-conceived sanctity ascribed to a (literally) brainless, emotionless zygote (I'm guessing because conception is the moment the "soul" enters the body). In light of that, no, I cannot say that he is a "good guy" that "just made some mistakes". His beliefs are repugnant, on a fundamental level. And let's not kid ourselves - is anybody really donating to Trump because of his well though out and articulated foreign or economic policy? Or is it more likely they've bought into the hype he generated with nationalistic and discriminatory rhetoric? The way Scott's detractors treated him, doxxing a death threats, is also horrible, but let's not act as if this somehow retroactively justifies or lessens the severity of his beliefs. "Both sides were wrong" does not mean that the wrongness of either side is excused. And let's not forget that Scott's critics (f.e. James Stephanie Sterling) also received harrasment from his hardcore fans.

[@Nyoterasu]

@@Halucygeno There's nothing wrong or "evil" about being pro-life, there's this preconception that the movement's final goal is only to get rid of women's bodily rights which is a really dumb way to describe a much complicated topic. No, pro-life advocates wishes for the rights of both parties, the life that's to come and the life of the mother to be protected, it's not just about banning abortion but giving the possibility of this coming child to have a chance at life, and I can't say the solution is the right one, I believe there can be middle ground, but I also can't see either side as "evil" because both of their beliefs are valid and I'm not an omniscient being to decide whether which side is more right or wrong, we're only human.

[@Halucygeno]

@@Nyoterasu To argue for a pro-life position, you would need to consider a zygote (a bundle of cells that have yet to develop a brain or nerve endings and certainly do not yet have any thoughts or feelings) to have the same moral rights as a fully grown, sentient human, and these rights must outweigh the right of the mother to have an abortion. Your argument doesn't substantiate either. Simply the potentiality for a life to come into existence is not sufficient grounds to advocate for anything. I could have had many children already if I wanted to. Am I to be considered guilty for preventing the existance of these "potential" children? There is no meaningful reason to cut off this "potential life" argument at the moment of conception. Is it not horrible that every celibate is killing great amounts of their sperm and eggs, all of which "could have" become children? The conclusions your argument leads to are absurd. And yes, it is about banning abortion. If you consider abortion to be morally acceptable, then you're pro-choice and considering the rights of the mother - you probably want it to be easily accessible and part of basic health care. If you're pro-life, you consider abortion to be morally wrong and belive mothers shouldn't have them - so really, you aim to either ban them, make them very difficult to get or discourage them by all means. There really is no gray area there - either a zygote is a person, or they're not. It's either ok to kill them, or it's not. There may be extreme circumstances which would make a pro-life person deem abortion to be acceptable, but it would be a begrudging acceptance - an evil which has to be tolerated. They would still oppose general, widespread access to abortion, which is the key issue here.

[@LetsPlayerUltimate]

Completely agree with your stance. Good video. Way to many people in my opinion are unwilling to see what bad thing happen when you donate to people that he did. These people dont get how politics works or how it affects their lives. Its honestly maddening. Appreciate the time you took to do this and the fact you were brave enough to put this out considering his rather rabid fanbase.

[@johnzarek3628]

You completely agree with smearing people who don't agree with you politically? Very intolerant.

[@Weighty68]

Excellent wording and phrasing as always, great work on this video. Probably the most disappointing news of late, but one that’ll hopefully humble a lot of fans and creators alike.

[@pimscrypt]

Please read the pinned comment. Also, again, the donations to charity doesn't outweigh what he's done.

[@ArteFurlong]

I keep seeing it brought up in the comments and while yes the doxxing and death threats is bad but people seem to use it as a "hey, you know this happened so clearly scott is not in the wrong" like a smokescreen tactic to ignore what he has done which is legit awful things as much as people try to pull the nice guy card.

[@pimscrypt]

I completely agree.

[@WAEVOICE]

Since when was making donations tantamount to committing a crime?

[@sonotfetch]

@@WAEVOICE Good lord. It is not just 'making donations'. Stop trying to downplay it as if those donations do not have real impact. As if those donations don't line the pockets of people who are willing to make laws that strip the freedoms of others. If you want to defend Scott, that is completely fine, but don't do so by using shitty and malicious argument tactics.

[@aetherialbeing4223]

@@sonotfetch They weren’t? All they said “donations don’t equal committing actual crimes”.

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

@@aetherialbeing4223 Except that they are. Y'all are purposely misconstruing things to make it seem like we're overreacting for being justifiably pissed at Scott, and then further muddling the truth by deceptively presenting what Scott did as "harmless" because his donations weren't going to personally affect you as cis het people. But hey, cis het folks once again defending their own while attacking their critics and revealing themselves to be anti-LGBT+ while pretending that they're "allies"? Why am I not surprised! It's not your place to forgive Scott or offer him any grace because what he did does not affect you.

[@abeingofpureenergy]

Hi, HeavyEyed sent me! I'm already really into your video style and am super excited to see a fellow nonbinary person talking about the things I find interesting!

[@pimscrypt]

Thank you so much! I'm very glad that you're watching both my and HeavyEyed's stuff, he's absolutely great!

[@goblingirl7248]

If I could like a video a million time over lmao. Seriously though, this topic might be kind of old by internet standards, but it’s still awesome to see someone really going in depth on the actual politics here instead of giving the guy a huge pass again without talking down to anyone. Tysm for making this. Can’t wait to check out the rest of your channel :D👍❤️

[@pimscrypt]

Thank you so much! I hope you'll like my other stuff as well!

[@sonicmeerkat]

When I think of people who need donations the last person that comes to mind is the leader of the richest nation on earth lmao.

[@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263]

He can do what he wants it’s HIS money.

[@sonicmeerkat]

@@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263 never said he couldn't, but just cause he can do something don't mean he should lol. We all know that you only donate to politicians for political favours, it's the entire business model of lobbying.

[@jimmyneutron5755]

I got in to your channel from Five Nights at Freddy's 4 is a horror masterpiece, and I think that could probably go for this channel as a whole.

[@arii9355]

Wonderful video as always. As a trans girl myself and fan of the series since the week of the first game’s release, it’s heartbreaking news. To know someone I look up to thinks I’m not deserving of love or happiness. Trans ppl surely don’t need anymore hate right now. I can’t in good faith support him or his games anymore, it’s tainted the good memories I have with the series.

[@pimscrypt]

Thank you! But yeah, I completely understand. It's frankly unfair how much power a thing like this can have over things that we used to love.

[@trevorpgamer1936]

well he dkid donate 50.000 dollars to dawkos trevor project stream anonymously so he does still care

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

@@trevorpgamer1936 No he doesn't. He did it because he wants to try to win back some goodwill he lost after donating to politicians looking to willingly harm us and strip us of our rights and protections, and doubled down by stating that he feels no guilt over it. He knows there are cishet people out there calling themselves "allies" that will be quick to accept him with open arms and champion him as "someone who cares" the minute he donates to a charity that they performatively claim to support. He's lazy trying to backtrack and cover his ass.

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

@@trevorpgamer1936 The donations to charity doesn't outweigh what he's done.

[@trevorpgamer1936]

@@cannibalisticrequiem I understand your point, although it was anonymous and we don't know if that was truly Scott I can see why it would sound like a quick guilt trip, I don't know much about scott but based on his final message saying that he's recently got support from Lgbtq+ after the incident, and saying he respects everyone how they would want to be treated, I don't think he himself goes on the believes of what he voted on, i think he voted what would be less to stop problems of lgbtq+ bullying in the future, and the 1st and 15 amendment allowing for freedom of speech and his right to vote, if you still hate him or me after this message so be it, but in my eyes I thank and forgive Scott.

[@1000dumplings]

While I 100% agree with you on this video, it feels a little unfair to not mention the doxxing or threats that he received from this situation, in my opinion

[@pimscrypt]

I don't disagree. It was mentioned in the first draft of the script, at the very end, but then I changed it when the news of Scott's retirement came out. It should go without saying that Scott didn't deserve doxxing or death threats, but I should probably have mentioned it in the video anyway. I'm sorry about that.

[@1000dumplings]

@@pimscrypt Of course! I don't think he deserved it either, I just would hate this to be seen as bad optics for the transphobes or people who still support him

[@eclipsingjelly9572]

This video was tearful to watch but meaningful. Although Politicians are hard to pick a side. Nowadays it’s always civil rights vs foreign policy. It’s a tough choice of red and blue. Thanks for making this video! Btw I love the Fnaf 4 video too. Glad you kept it!

[@AuriSchnauri]

Honestly, this was like one of the most disappointing things I experienced in my 18 years of life.

[@pimscrypt]

I feel you.

[@oofi422]

Same, it does hit hard.

[@Cool_Kid95]

@@oofi422 maybe I’d understand if it was someone I especially didn’t like.

[@crhed6328]

Get a grip he made Christian games what did you expect? In a two party political system you can’t blame someone for choosing between 2 evils.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

Same. This news made me genuinely upset. Hell, I am still upset about it and it's been months.

[@rustyyy1k]

In my opinion, Scott is a good man who did a bad thing. There was no need to donate to any politician, but I really doubt he had any malicious intent with his actions. Hell, he donated more to the Trevor foundation than he did to all the politicians combined. I personally would be willing to continue to support him, but I find it completely understandable and respectable if anyone else chooses to drop support of him or the franchise. Just don’t send threats his way, nobody deserves to be told ‘I hope your wife has a miscarriage’. Edit: Take my opinion with a grain of salt, while I am part of the LGBTQ community, I’m not from the US.

[@yall_girl_eve]

Same

[@mike-cc3dd]

He didnt do a bad thing. Thats where you're wrong. There is always reason to donate to a politician when that politician is looking for reelection. Dont be ignorant of the political process. Its cringe

[@8lec_R]

@@mike-cc3dd the political process is cringe. If interested hmu, I'll give you a list if videos you can watch to understand why

[@BluejayStudios334]

I agree and it’s the consumers money do as you wish with it weather you want to spend it then spend it or don’t I don’t care but just don’t send death threats act like adults and move on I still have hope this community heals and I’m a lgbtq member but I am praying for healing about the situation

[@slenderminion2229]

If there's one singular word that describes my feelings about this entire situation, it's disappointment. On all fronts. At Scott because of the political donations he made, at the people that sent him death threats and paint him as a homophobic monster, at the fans that give blind support without acknowledging that the LGBTQ community has a valid reason to be upset. It's exhausting and a perfect demonstration that the world is not simply good and evil like we want it to be sometimes. For my part, i will still continue to support the franchise as a whole, because while Scott has been just one guy developing these games for a long time this is no longer the case. The books have multiple authors, Security Breach is developed by Steel Wool, the movie by Blumhouse and the Fanverse Project primarily benefits the fan creators. Scott's retirement makes this somewhat easier. Scott will surely still recieve money, though i do believe his retirement will stick with him announcing a successor soon, but Five Nights at Freddy's as a franchise is no longer entirely about Scott like it used to be.

[@andrewchen6253]

Well said. It's all a massive shitstorm

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

That's exactly what I hate about the internet, some sort of controversy shows up, and there are 2 sides of it (or so they think) and most of the time they don't realize that they're a middle point, they just think that they have to think the exact opposite as the other side to be right when in reality their both wrong because there's a middle section no one wants to touch because everyone thinks they have to be on one side or the other, and honestly that's what's so scary about the internet. You don't know Scott, you can't make any sort of judgment about him, you can say that what he did was wrong but it's just that all of these people seem to not know that humans can make mistakes, on the other hand, people who think they're able to declare he's a saint. You don't know him, you don't know what he's like, and you can't think that you do. But they all refuse to stay in the middle they all either want to declare him a saint or the devil himself.

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

My personal stance is this, it's possible that Scott really is overall a good person, but it doesn't quite matter. Even if Scott isn't a monster or anything, his actions were wrong, his actions helped to hurt people.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

I don't see how you can be a good person and support Trump at the same time. He is genuinely one of the most vile people I've ever seen, and I've seen A LOT of garbage. Trump brags about s*xually assaulting women and trashtalks Mexicans and immigrants in general very publicly. Unless Scott lived under a rock, he had to know about this, it was public knowledge.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

also as a woman anyone who is pro-life is a huge red flag for me

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

@Sophitia of Hyrule same. It’s basically just a way of policing female autonomy. :/

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

@@sophitiaofhyrule I am Mexican myself, but I don't think it's fair for us to make a solid judgment on Scott, I think it's disgusting when people try to defend an artist because they did something they really like, but I don't think we can make a solid judgment on whether Scott is "evil" or not. He could have just made a mistake because everyone does, or he had terrible intentions, but who are we to decide that? we don't know him, we can say that what he did was wrong, but how can we determine the kind of person he is, and I'm not blindly defending him, I just don't feel comfortable making judgments about people I don't know, I prefer to stay in the middle and say that he did a terrible thing, but I can't say that he's a terrible person neither an amazing human being

[@mike-cc3dd]

His actions weren't wrong. You're wrong

[@clockwolf4359]

I normally go with praising people when they do good things and condemning them when they do bad things, same with J.K R. I'll still enjoy her Harry Potter series until she runs it into the ground in the next five minutes. But her political takes are absolute garbage. Scott's statement reads to me as someone who's politicly ignorant. But honestly he didn't handle this well. He didn't even address what people were mad at him for in his statement. He basically complained about being under attack for being a christian and a republican. Even though that's not what people had a problem with. Then when that statement didn't work he just decides to retire with his millions of dollars. It sucks that he was doxed and threatened. But he still didn't accept any responsibility for what he was even accused of doing. He just played the victim and said he wasn't going to change no matter what, then he ran away. It comes across as cowardly. Not a fan of FNAF, but this still sucks for people who are.

[@TheRinguDinku5454]

Because there was nothing wrong with what he did? Donating, and voting for people you think are right, isn't wrong, and you should not apologize in any way.

[@godessnerd]

@@TheRinguDinku5454 it’s wrong when the people he donated to wants to destroy peoples lives

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

Scott is a coward. Just go back and re-read his "retirement" announcement where he specifically mentions "all of the love and support he received from members of the LGBT+ community". Purposely ignoring those of us who called him out and criticized him, he wields this more as a shield to protect himself. "See? You can't be mad at me! I have some LGBT+ fans who will -feel bad for me- support me!"

[@Sunkem1Not6Hacks]

So a good apology means more to you then having your family threatened and being doxxed... Literally, you only put one sentence about the doxxing the rest is you calling him cowardly for not responding to the controversy and for him retiring. Maybe his thoughts were jumbled when he saw his address on the internet? Not defending Scott for his terrible political beliefs but to me you can't, as an oppressor(since you are against him personally calling him a coward), dictate what he has to do to make it up to you. If the doxxing didn't happen I would have agreed but thats not the case

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@Kiwi Balls I've never heard of that before is trump actually pro LGBT I'm curious to hear this If he is pro LGBT that is great news

[@Sylvia_Corvidev]

This is honestly one of the most morally complicated controversies I've ever seen and I don't even know what to think. I swear to god everytime I think about this whole situation I go back and forth on it so many times. Steel Wool has put some implied trans and gay representation in FNaF Ruin though, so that's nice! Good job Steel Wool :)

[@mpleandre]

The big mistake is to donate to politicians. I honestly don't care about what the LGBTQ or anyone else thinks, it's just donating to politicians what makes me disagree with Scott.

[@mike-cc3dd]

Are you unaware of how politics works? It seems so

[@mpleandre]

@@mike-cc3dd I know how they work. But donating to them means you trust in them, and for a Christian man that's just not okay.

[@jayray1714]

Rich people don't donate to charities out of the goodness of their hearts; they get something in return.

[@the-experiment]

Yep that’s totally why scott donated to the Trevor project anonymously

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

@@the-experiment That *is* why he donated to The Trevor Project. He wants his LGBT+ audience to see it and "realize" that "he's still a good guy and an ally" in order to get back in our good graces because he knows how bad his first post of "I did what I did and I'm not sorry" and hopes donating $50k to The Trevor Project will be enough to convince us as easily as it did for the cishet "allies" who were already willing to forgive Scott, even though it's not their place to offer him that grace and forgiveness since his original actions affect you in no way at all. The donations to charity doesn't outweigh the bad that he's done.

[@Aster_Risk]

@@the-experiment He gets tax breaks. He wanted people to know he donated to a politician since those are made public. The logic you think you're using isn't there.

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@cannibalisticrequiem ya know I'm gonna be bold here and say that his original actions haven't seemed to harm you in any way shape or form either You are still here And trump failed to do any harm Maybe the Trevor project was his apology he is trying to help but people who can't see anything past the window think that he is an evil being who hates the LGBT and dosent care at all like you And arnt understanding and understand the man tries his best to help Every decision he makes isn't gonna be in line with yours but he hopes he can help people live better lives He says In his post He was voting for issues that he felt would hurt you in the long run if they weren't dealt with Plenty of people fight for the here and now But the future needs to be thought of too and the possible dangers that could set everyone back to square 0 He probably wants to make sure that dosent happen And people who don't call him an evil monster should not be ridiculed and declared "allies" and fishers for having a more forgiving heart than you

[@gabrielchastain6091]

Just because he is Rich dosent make him immediately a prick who just wants more money It is just as likely he donated to help people But you just decided to mindlessly put him the same realm as every other rich person

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

I’m glad your fnaf 4 video wasn’t taken down because I wouldn’t have found your channel if it was, since that was the video that was recommended to me on the algorithm. I’m not really a fan of fnaf so I didn’t know anything about this and I’m not really upset about it like a fan would be, but it’s still a bit of a slap in the face because I had heard he’d been so nice to his fans.

[@aspiringcoconut6561]

Informative vid, thanks!

[@pimscrypt]

No problem. 👍

[@justpuka1754]

The only thing that really fukin hurts for me Is that he could apologize, he could have donated money to LGBT related charities and he would been fine but no he has to be not only extremely childish but cowardly running away from his problems like that. That shows a character ,was he even "good" person to binging with or did he just donated money on other ppls streams to make it seem like he is good guy so ppl would play his games? I don't know anymore, I am trans guy that loves fnaf but how can I move from this massive middle finger that Scott just stabbed me with, how can I draw his characters and enjoy their design anymore? this is truly hurtful hope wool steel studios will treat us better :\

[@based980]

he already has donated to lgbt organizations and has openly supported lgbt?

[@justpuka1754]

@@based980 no i meant as a sorry for supporting a lot of people who going against us and kinda want us dead, pretty cringe ngl

[@based980]

@@justpuka1754 people are allowed to have political opinions.

[@justpuka1754]

@@based980 not really if other people's life is on the line.

[@based980]

@@justpuka1754 they arnt?

[@JCOdrjones]

Scott Cawthon is "Doug Walker nice". You hear stories of Doug being nice, but also being extremely useless and unhelpful and uncaring, that it helps make you realize that being nice doesn't immediately mean "he's good". Or essentially, those few lyrics from Into the Woods

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

"You're not good, you're not bad. You're just nice."

[@vivimos_en_una_sociedad7758]

Sounds forced af

[@DD-sy2iq]

I honestly don't give a fuck that he supports Donald Trump, the fact that this was such a controversial issue in the community is absolutely fucking ridiculous

[@brainypepper1621]

You’re awesome, Pim. You deserve more subs!

[@pimscrypt]

That’s very kind. 💜

[@enthargaming9700]

Also (in Praise of shadows) sent me😂 and he was right you’re awesome! Keep it up, also love your makeup when u do it!🌈

[@manticore6963]

9:13 "I'm a republican. I'm a Christian." Call me a cynical asshole, but these two factors are the reason, why I wasn't really surprised abut Scott supporting people like Trump. Don't get me wrong, I get why people are upset - but I'm surprised that people seemed to act as if this was something out of the blue. The guy made christian games on massè, no one should be surprised that he puts politicians with "christian" values over those that actually support LGBT+ rights. And I honestly don't believe him, when he basically claims that he made these decisions from an economical standpoint - he voted/donated based on the values he sees as most important, and those are conservative christian ones. --- Regarding wether it's okay to buy FNAF games or not - it's honestly a tough question and I'm glad you made clear that it's okay to still buy these games if someone really wants to buy them, as well as adding your reasons why you won't buy them any time soon. I have to pre-face - while I support the LGBTQIA-community and trans-rights, I'm a cis, (most likely) hetero man; so I don't have the same stakes like an actual transperson for example. It's likely that I, for some people, have no right to say something in that regard due to these factors. Also, I never bought any of the FNAF games, so it would be way too easy for me to say that I won't buy any of them in the future and everyone else shouldn't either. I think, the most moral decision would be to never buy any of his games or other merch and I don't blame anyone for doing so. Even applauding. But I'm weak, and I guess also somewhat of a hypocrite - as a huge H.P. Lovecraft-fan, who is aware who Lovecraft was and what he stood for, it would be hypocritical for me to advocate boycotting Scott while still buying anything under the sun that has the words "lovecraftian" in it. It's a very similar situation to J.K. Rowling - on one hand, it's a franchise that many people still enjoy to this day, on the other hand you don't want to support people like Rowling, Lovecraft or Cawthon and what they stand for. In the end, I can't outright say that it's "the right decision" to not buy anything related to FNAF. It's the most moral decision, because that money still goes to people like Cawthon and Rowling, indirectly supporting the people they support. But I think, no one should expect everyone else to do so, because these franchises are so near and dear to many people that it would be like expecting everyone to go 100% vegan. (I'm using an exaggerated example btw, I tend to use these)

[@pimscrypt]

I agree that it maybe shouldn't have come as a surprise. Still I, along with a lot of other people, gave him some benefit of the doubt. Personally I didn't want to judge him for something I didn't know was absolutely the case. It's a difficult issue, for sure. I feel that one has to look at things like these one a case by case basis. Lovecraft, for example, isn't alive anymore. He isn't benefiting from his work anymore, and since it has basically become it's own subgenre it's a little easier to pick and choose what lovecraftian fiction you want to consume. J.K. Rowling, who's alive and who's still writing harmful things about LGBTQIA people, is obviously a different thing. Still, boycotting Lovecraft's work is just as valid as boycotting Rowlings, I feel. If you only want to boycott one of them, that's fine to. As long as you can explain to yourself and others why you think it's okay or not.

[@edgarbenitez3470]

Oh no he’s a conservative Christian I wonder if that means he can’t care about other people. That’s literally ur point, ur judging some guy you don’t know on the fact he’s openly pro life and Christian, and that he donated to people that politically don’t have the same beliefs that you do. that’s not being cynical that’s being biased. Still I enjoyed ur reasoning because I feel the same way about being hypocritical by giving money to J.K Rowling for some of the stuff she does, I’m not trying to shit on ur comment, I just don’t think everyone person who’s a republican or Christian is actively the worst person on sight. But that’s just me

[@thefollowingisatest4579]

Assuming this because he's Christian seems not only cynical, but also wrong? As in, there are many christians who don't have this issue, including but not limited to those who are members of the lgbtq community. As for the other thing, yeah, no argument, if someone willing identifies themselves with conservative politics then nothing should really surprise about this.

[@crhed6328]

Let’s say he donated to Biden. Would he still get canceled because Biden does not think of the LGBTQ community all too well. It’s a lose lose.

[@pimscrypt]

Yeah it’s almost like… he didn’t actually have to donate to anyone.

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@pimscrypt or he donated to people in hopes of supporting other views that arnt ethical or people views such as the second amendment, money concerns, or over seas.affairs His donations are being seen as evil but certain other issues he may fear would actually cause more damage to everyone including the LGBT if they arnt taking care of

[@gabrielchastain6091]

Probably not the other reason he got cancelled is because people have a naturally negative view of trump do to his more controversial statements and ideals

[@Sharous_]

Not saying this fixes everything but Scott also donatedd 50k to the Trevor Project.

[@pinnstree8769]

No, it doesn’t, but it isn’t really a situation that can be fixed or needs to be fixed. He’s definitely lost a lot of fans due to this, but there are solid arguments on both sides. Personally, I do not believe it’s a bad thing he’s voted and donated to these people. People often forget you can vote for someone and not agree with everything they’ve said. Not saying its the case, but this guy is only listing the politicians personal beliefs. Their opinions don’t always evolve into policies. He believes their policies run the country the best, he doesn’t have to share the opinions

[@jonasribeiro2001]

It fixes it, he tries his best. People are just cruel

[@TheWholeEntireCake]

Uh, if I stabbed you and then gave you a bandaid I would still be held accountable since I caused your need for a bandaid in the first place.

[@liviwaslost]

The anti lgbt people he supported are the reason why donations like the Trevor Project exist.

[@Relcilisity_Official]

@@pinnstree8769 hate you kind of people

[@hf.1906]

This whole situation still makes me so sad as a trans gal. Fnaf was such a big part of my childhood, and I had so much appreciation towards Scott being an aspiring video game developer myself, I don’t think I can quite convey how much this has affected me. There have been more instances than I can count where I think back to a memory of the games or my experience with them, and it just gets tainted by Scott’s actions. I was so genuinely excited about Security Breach too…

[@pimscrypt]

I think the best thing that we can do is basically do what Scott himself did when he was at his all time low - use this as a motivator to do better things. If Scott wasn't the person we thought he was, the person we looked up to, then we can be that person. Or at least try to be!

[@gabrielchastain6091]

Scott loves and cares for you despite what it may seem Please do not let this ruin your love for a great game series and dislike Scott He had noble intentions as he said he was concerned certain issues would be more endangering to the LGBT then helpful and he wanted to take care of those first even if he had to vote for characters who themselves do not like your group It's not impossible to use a status who hates your group to actually help your group on accident

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@pimscrypt Scott is the person you thought he was I still have no reason to believe he hates the LGBT his decision may not have seemed wise but I'm sure as he said he was worried about certain issues that could cause more harm than good to the LGBT group and he wanted to eliminate those first to help the group It's not impossible to use a party who dislikes your views to trick them into actually helping your group

[@BoiFluffyFurry21]

@@gabrielchastain6091 Thanks Gabriel Chastain for the reminder. This controversy nearly broke my enjoyment of entire FNAF franchise especially that is has my childhood game now. I genuinely think Scott cares about everyone regardless. It might be that, he just don't know that the money he donates to might be bad person. Ik that it still doesn't justify the mistake he made but at least we know him. I hope this controversy will help Scott learn a lesson the next time he donates his money and hopefully be a good.

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@BoiFluffyFurry21 yes but I don't think it's that he didn't know He stated he voted for them for issues that he felt were important This could include Considering Scott is a republican Fighting against gun control Stronger military And so on He may feel that keeping the country safe And making sure we have the ability to fight the government if it becomes corrupt is important And no one thinks of this but after all What good will the LGBT community be if it cannot defend itself against a violent force If a rival of America with different, anti gay and anti trans managed to invade Saying it's wrong wouldn't stop them they would just hurt you or others because they don't care what you think And having guns is important in the case the government tried a similar situation Perhaps that's what Scott meant with more important issues There are plenty who fight for the movement now but what about future events that could be endangering to the movement People need to be able to fight oppression not everyone will listen to words or protests I think that is what Scott is thinking in a sense I have no reason to believe his support of those candidates was intent on harming the LGBT rather he agreed with some of their other views which most of the LGBT supportive candidates did not share He Didn't vote for those candidates because they wanted to enact gun control or weaken the army which Scott would see as a danger for everyone in the country including the LGBT His action were noble in my opinion despite what it may look like on a surface level I see no reason to say that Scott is anti LGBT I think he is a very nice man and still loves everyone

[@roach2110]

I wanna see the dislike to like ratio so bad 😭

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

Me too man, me too

[@Sylvia_Corvidev]

I have the chrome extension. It's a near exact 75% like ratio, meaning 3/4 of people liked the video, and 1/4 disliked it. Far below average, but not horrendous.

[@Glassandcandy]

“The fall of the Roman Empire shows why gay marriage will end in a disaster” Rome fell in 459, about a century after it legally banned homosexuality and anything even remotely reminiscent of “gay marriage” (the question of whether it EVER had gay marriage in the sense that we think of the term is also dubious, complicated and fiercely debated by classicists and historians btw). That means that during its most successful and prosperous years, Rome allowed homosexuality, and that AFTER it was criminalized was when it really started to unravel and ultimately collapse. Regardless, the whole idea is moot because the collapse of Rome had nothing to do with morality, sex, or cultural mores, it had to do with structural flaws within the imperial system, inability to form a standing army of citizens and reliance on foreign mercenaries creating a massive debt crisis, a MASSIVE refugee crisis from Goths fleeing Atilla the Hun, destructive civil wars prompted from legitimacy crises, and things like that. You know- actually dire situations with objectively bad consequences… But even so, if you’re going to make a bullshit post hoc propter hoc argument you should ATLEAST make sure you get the order of events correct. How anyone listened to that trite Carson was spewing is beyond me. It’s ironic that such a lauded brain surgeon has proven to be, himself, brain dead.

[@enthargaming9700]

Yeah, pro tip… stay out of supporting politicians, they’re all just the worst😂 at least he donated to the Trevor project too🤷‍♂️

[@theskinman1948]

This is absurd. The man has the right to vote for and support whomever he wants, and that is none of your business. If you are actually seriously upset by this...I don’t know what to tell you. It’s easy enough for me to still enjoy and support creators whose ideology and beliefs I don’t always agree with.

[@pimscrypt]

Yes, as I said in the video, he has the right to do so. Just like you have the right to reveal just how little you care about trans people by posting this comment. But that it’s none of our business? You do realize that we are taking about PUBLICITY appointed officials, right? That his donations are PUBLICLY available to see and that his decision to donate has a real life impact on the minorities those PUBLICLY elected officials don’t like? Sorry, you are wrong. It’s absolutely the business of the people.

[@cowboywithapistol1985]

@@pimscrypt I'm transgender, been out for 5 years. Transgender Christian at that. Even if they enjoy Scott's content and say that he should have a right to believe and support whatever, doesn't make them transphobic. They even said that they don't agree with his beliefs. I see this more as them explaining that they believe in freedom of the First Amendment in all ways (Though this doesn't stop people from calling you out) and separating the art from the artist. You and I see differently than other people and we aren't going to always see eye to eye. That doesn't make us or them wrong. Transphobia is based in lack of understanding, corrupted religion, and ignorance. There is always room for improvement. We have to be patient with them, just like we expect them to be patient with us. Great Video as always though.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

@@pimscrypt thanks for showing me that you don't actually care about trans people, you just want a reason to hate Republicans and Scott Cawthon.

[@edwinve4112]

@Fritz Philogene II Yeah they only see one side of the coin.

[@Aster_Risk]

@@edwinve4112 If you are trans and support Republicans, than you suck as a person.

[@Effiecent-7356r]

True fact: Donald Trump is a pleasant and decant man he is not as crude, sleazy, obnoxious, lazy, selfish, arrogant, self-centered, boastful, self-righteous, spiteful, perverted, and lawless he is a kind, nice, respectful, polite, outgoing, sympathetic, generous, patient, independent, considerate and fierce person who makes wise decisions. He's no fascist he's a republican and that's why I always call him the "Real Batman."

[@pimscrypt]

There is absolutely no way that this comment wasn’t written by Internet Comment Etiquette Erik. I refuse to believe anyone would write this and mean it.

[@comradeerik]

God damn it. As someone who is both a transsexual guy and Christian, I'm so fucking disappointed. As a trans person, I really hope he doesn't actually think transphobic things.

[@ryankmanpbb5248]

You claim to be a Christian yet slander the Lord’s name in the same comment?

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@ryankmanpbb5248 god does not care if you say goddamn it Many christians say it all the time God does give to shits about him saying goddamn it as nowadays that words is no longer used as a damnation but an exclamation and casual phrase therefore it's insulting meaning is no longer used God does not care about what you say They are words and mean nothing in the long run But it's good you love the lord enough to want to defend him from harm

[@gabrielchastain6091]

He dosent I am sure He said he had reasons and things he worried would actually hurt the LGBT in the long run if he didn't take care of those first

[@ryankmanpbb5248]

@@gabrielchastain6091 I’m sorry but that just isn’t how it works. 3rd commandment says to never take the name of God in vain. Those don’t change over time just because more and more people are disobeying them.

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@ryankmanpbb5248 ok so does every christian who goes to church but says the gd need to go to hell? God is loving and he would not send you into an eternal hell of pain and suffering because you said god dammit That's dumb and he is still going to love you, that person, and me regardless

[@r4k00n5]

I'll always stand with Scott when it comes to this. It is none of anyones business who he supports or who he gives money to. He is his own person and it is unfair to hold him to a greater standard. Leave the man alone.

[@theridley6451]

People have the right to support and not support who they please this goes for him AND his fanbase. To some of us politics are about morals. Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

[@bfFAN221]

@@theridley6451 Soooooo... where are the criticisms and consequences of the extreme sections of the Alphabet community then?

[@theridley6451]

@@bfFAN221 well for one the LGBTQIA doesn't try to have people killed for being born different. The most extreme things that have been done by people in the LGBTQIA community were ironically done by fringe members who are REPUBLICAN but even then we don't stop people from getting married, getting proper medical care, being able to adopt, and so forth. The punishable offences that you could even name are what? Stfu and go touch grass

[@ryankmanpbb5248]

@@theridley6451 yet the LGBTQIA were the ones threatening to murder Scott’s family. Stfu and go touch grass.

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@theridley6451 there are some members of the LGBT community who do willingly harm people who dislike them which is wrong

[@sampellegrino3504]

why omit that people were threatening to kill his family and hoped his wife had miscarriage? or that he donated 50,000 to the trevor project?

[@pimscrypt]

Please read the pinned comment. And as I said in the video, his donations to charity does not outweigh his donations to the GOP from a moral perspective.

[@sampellegrino3504]

@@pimscrypt i'm sure you are well aware people are going to watch the video but few will read the pinned comment with a very large puzzle piece

[@pimscrypt]

Well it’s too late to change the video so that’s sadly the best that I can do.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

"He donated money to a charity so he's good now!!" He's so rich, 50,000 are pennies to him.

[@knightatyourservice7512]

So, I dive in in the situation and I feel safe to share my POV of the situation. Before that I need to clarify some stuff: First, I don't consider myself a FNAF fan. I always respected the franchise and Scott for being an example for how a game developer should be. I'm mentioning that before I want to make it clear that I'm not saying what I'm saying with nostalgia glasses. Second, I do NOT agree with his actions. Those politicians have shown anti-LGBTQ+ statements and Scott should have put more thoughts if this was a good idea or not. With that being said, I don't consider Scott being a bad person. In his Reddit post he made it clear that the reasons why he donated to those politicians wasn't linked with the LGBTQ+ community at all. Now many people said that, if you showed your support to someone, than you stand for everything that he/she said. While your support helps every aspect of the spectrum, politics are much complicated than that. Politicians always did or do stuff that is controversial or not right at all. All you can do is to pick the lesser evil or not be implicated in politics at all. And if you want to help your country, you had to help politicians. There's no other option. And if Scott felt like some stuff other politicians said would harm the community, than he shouldn't support them. Again, I do not agree with his actions and I also agree with the fact that Scott has his heart in the right place considering that he wanted to help those politicians in order to help others. And how much do you think these politicians would have actually affected the LGBTQ+ community? I don't know about you, but the community doesn't seem to pull back at all. Also, I would like to brought up Scott's $50,000 donation to The Trevor's Project. This project is meant to help the LGBTQ+ people. In total, this donation (with all the money sent at once) is bigger than all of the money he gave to politicians (from time to time). I brought that up because I don't think he did that to save his image, considering that it was originally an anonymous donation, but I don't think a homophobic person would give so much money to this charity. Scott should just be told that his actions aren't right. But, calling him a bad person after all that he did in the past is not right. Criticism shoul be used to improve, not to cancel people. But, unfortunately, people blew it out of proportion to the point he decided to retire (maybe he had that plans for a long time and the timing is a coincidence). And no! Be getting doxxed should not be considered a succes, but a failure considering that we should help people to change for the best. And his family shouldn't suffer for that. Overall, Scott isn't a bad person. He just wanted to help, but his actions weren't right. Also, I appreciate you for making this video! I needed a lot of study to come to know the controversy better and to come to a conclusion and this video certainly helped.

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

Just keep your opinions to yourself then. I'm fucking sick of seeing cishets fall back on "I don't think he's a bad person, he just made a mistake, let me waste your time by typing out a thesis of why you should listen to me and stop being mean to Scott" bullshit. You don't get to tell us how to feel or shame us for not sharing your shit opinion. It doesn't matter if *you* think Scott's a "nice guy". He fucked up, dug in his heels and said, "Yeah I did what I did and I'm not sorry about it". He's basically saying, "Yes I donated to anti-LGBT+ politicians and I don't care." (Honestly he should've just said, "Fuck you queer fans, I got mine!") And him donating $50k to The Trevor Project doesn't absolve him of what he did, it doesn't make up for it, and it doesn't change him saying "I'm not apologizing for donating to people who actively want to harm you and strip you of basic human rights that I already have as a cishet white man", because it's obvious he did it in order to get back into our good graces. Just as he used LGBT+ fans as his personal shield in his "Retirement" post, saying he got an outpouring of love from many members of my community which reads as "See! These queer fans still like me! Why can't you change your mind and forgive me???" Cishet bootlickers like you need to learn to shut the fuck up and stop using tone-policing and respectability politics to silence us and gaslight us for not doing what *you* did, which was immediately forgive Scott, or handle the situation with kid gloves by protecting Scott and giving him grace (that only seems available to cishet folks) like MatPat and Dawko, and every other cishet KZbinr that also conveniently calls themselves our "allies". Stop telling us how we should've reacted and how we need to feel because it makes *you* feel bad when it exposes people like you and Scott as the performance artists you really are.

[@knightatyourservice7512]

@@cannibalisticrequiem So, I've just read your response (I'm sorry for taking so long! I've just saw this!) and I want to address some things here, but first, if you are too angry at me, just give yourself some time before we can talk so we can have a decent conversation. I don't acuse you for being overly angry. I know what I've said might be controversial and really rub some people in the wrong place (if that's an existing expression in English) and I'm opened to hear criticism. I'm not responsible for wasting the someone's time considering that I don't have any control over how someone is managing his time. I'm sorry if you find my comment a time waster. Now, I have to ask you something: if my post was a waste of time, why you decided to waste even more waste of the time, instead of just ignoring me or even report me for hate speech? Your actions enter in contradiction with what you think. I just don't understand why you did that. And I didn't demanded at any time to anyone to listen to me. I'm just a guy telling what I think and who wants to listen, good, and who doesn't want, still good. I don't told anyone to share my opinion and I didn't blame anyone for not sharing my opinion. At the end of the day, I'm not more important than anyone in this comment section. All my criticism goes against people who attacked him and said stuff like "I hope your wife will abort" and stuff like that (that doesn't include people that are disappointed by his actions). When you response at bad with bad, you just prove that you are not better than the one you are criticizing. Scott explained why he donated in the first place and not at any point he said that he tried to erase the LGBTQ+ community from the face of the Earth. He donated for improving the live of the black community and for protecting the country against the enemies. He also noted that other politicians had nicer things to said about the queer community, but he thought that they might harm them more. He actually said that in the Reddit post. He might not stand by their views but his money were sent with the idea that politicians will only use the money to what they said they will do after they will become leaders. And, as far as I know, most of their controversial views didn't entered in their promises, but only in their bumd speeches, so no money would have been sented to anti-LGBTQ+ campaigns. You said at one point that him donating to the Trevor Project doesn't solve anything. So you think those $50K plus what people donated on that live stream doesn't help the community at all? You know, the money that he donated over time have prooven to be useless for the politicians cuz they've lost anyways. Have you ever thought that he might have thought like: "Ok, I'm aware where my donations went, but I think I should have atleast tried to donate to the causes that the politicians don't support so I can have both the assurance that the politicians will do what they promised without hurting anyone". I'm sorry, but I find the lack of appreciation for the donation disturbing, like you are saying: "I don't care he is helping the comunity at all". I'm optimistic that you just didn't said what you actually wanted to said. I do thing signs of change for the better should be encouraged. You can't jump over this paragraph if you want cuz it doesn't really add to the discussion. About the "cishet white man" thing... Do you realise that saing that white man are bad is insulting for the white folks that are trying to help marginalized groups? Like you can lose supporters like that. Now his retirement kinda feel definitive by this point. We didn't heard anything from him in a lomg time and the controversy is now long gone so he would have returned by now if it was just a false statement. And about queer fans, he donated to queer creators in the past and they've said that he was respectful. So, no. He isn't homophobic. He would have do his best to avoid them at any cost if that was the case. And I'm sorry, but if the queer fans can forgive him, then we should take their opinions in consideration cuz they are the community in question. I don't say the one that don't agree with him aren't valid. I'm just saying that the LGBTQ+ opinions vallue more than people outside the the community in that case. And your last paragraph did said something that you are not able to actually know, but just assuming you are right: that I "immediately" protected Scott. Let me begin by reminding you that I am not a FNAF fan, so there wouldn't be any emotional reflex to make me jump straight with the conclusion. I have been loking for info and opinions about the controversy for a few days before I came to a conclusion. And, again, I'm not forcing anyone to do what I think it's right. In fact, if someone thing something it's right and he/she don't do anything about it, than that person is a bad person. Also, your assumption that cishet people are the only one protecting Scott. I've seen and even you mentioned that people from the LGBTQ+ community are supporting him. So no. It isn't just one type of person thing. For the last, I hope that explains better over what I feel for the situation. I hope we can at least have a civilized disagreement and we can be more civilized to one another. Looking over my response, I hope I didn't said anything to insult you, but if you did get insulted, then I let you know that this wasn't my intention and I'm sorry. Lease teach me respectfully as I tried and help me fix my wrongdoing if you find any. I believe, as human beings, we can all fix one another to have more better people than just erase the bad ones and remain with the same amount of good people on Earth. Kind regards!

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@cannibalisticrequiem you clearly didn't read a fucking word that guy said and all you read was It's not all bad And you are now putting yourself on the same level as the racist or the homophobes and blindly screaming why he is a terrible person And are giving people who views your group as unstable or incorrect and aggressive even more fuel and reason to believe so And in essence you just idiotically gave people who dislike or disagree with the LGBT who read this even more reason to dislike you Therefore damaging your movement

[@gribblothewise6380]

I agree with what you said in the video and I think you handled this very well. Honestly I believe Scott isn't a bad person, just misguided. My main issue with the controversy is how most people just don't want to hear the other side. I've seen so much hatred from both sides and it sucks. I believe people should form their own opinions on issues like this and they shouldn't be hated for it. Whether you don't want to support Scott or you want to continue supporting him is completely okay, no one should try to tell you you're a bad person either way.

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

Ah yes, the typical centrist excuse. "No one listens to each other anymore uwu", "No one should make you feel bad for supporting people who are actively working to strip others of marginalized identities of their basic human rights and protections, thereby continuing to demonize and other them for not being what society tells them to be, because that doesn't make you a bad person!" 🙄

[@gribblothewise6380]

@@cannibalisticrequiem No, I just believe that politics is not all black and white. I also believe people's intentions should be taken into account. If Scott went out and said "I supported these people specifically to destroy gay people," or anything of the like I would one hundred percent agree that he's a piece of shit; but he didn't say that. He stated he wanted to build a stronger economy that would benefit everyone, and I personally believe that's a fine thing to vote for.

[@Aster_Risk]

@@gribblothewise6380 "I just want a stronger economy, guys!!! Stop picking on me even though you have totally valid reasons!"

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@Aster_Risk You 100% missed his point

[@gabrielchastain6091]

I'm not the smartest wordiest one around but I'm not mad at Scott at all I believe him when he said he was trying to help He is just a man he's not gonna think of every single result to every action he makes He probably meant he was more concerned with financial issues and other issues that he felt needed to be addressed first so we could continue to grow and progress undisrupted And he has every reason to think he will be cancelled You saying well you won't get cancelled in a way that makes him sound like he was exaggerating is bullshit You may not dox him but other people will because they are that offended And that is exactly what happened so he was right I do not think he had any intention on voting against the LGBT If your pro guns but you vote for a democratic candidate who hates guns but has other views that you feel are more important at that moment then that dosent mean you hate guns It annoys me heavily how people can love a man so much and get alone with them To suddenly throwing them to the side and not wanting any association with them Because they have a different view then you do I'm still livid about this stupid controversy today the fact that they turned on him who worked his ass off for years making content for them because of one mistake he made and then doxxing him and wanting to hurt him is bullshit Scott was not trying to destroy or harm the LGBT Whatever his reasons are he had good intentions But because his reasons didn't perfectly match there's they throw him away and treat him like a monster or a horrible person when he has done so damn much for people He shouldn't have to apologize It's ever more annoying that someone dug into his personal life to find dirt on him and give info that is his own business to other people I just see it as Scott wasn't trying to damage the LGBT he was trying to help them and just cause you or I don't see his personal reasonings for thinking that voting for those candidates would help the LGBT his reasoning might actually be smart and actually be helpful But instead of taking his word for it they immediately assumed he was a liar and was assisting their enemies But please don't treat him like a monster or hate his guts his intentions were not malicious #Istandwithscott #lgbt are normal people too I don't know I'm not the best debater but everyone is human and people shouldn't be despise Scott for his choices Even though they may seem dangerous that most likely wasn't his intention

[@JoystickDrummer]

I've never bought or played any of his games before and now I'm definitely never playing any of them. Excellent video as always!

[@pimscrypt]

Thank you so much! 💜

[@THATRANDOMDUDE99999]

How will Scott Cawthon, creator of popular horror game franchise Five Nights at Freddy’s, live? Knowing JoystickDrummer won’t be playing his point and click survival horror games. 🗿😔

[@edgarbenitez3470]

@@THATRANDOMDUDE99999 I imagine he’ll just cease existing due to the horror of it all

[@yourfatboy5359]

@@THATRANDOMDUDE99999 true 😭

[@nanuqo2006]

To vote for / donate to a certain politician you don't have to agree with 100% of their practices Also, I find it strange how you left out the fact that people doxxed and sent death threats to scott if you wanted to cover the whole issue

[@pimscrypt]

You don't have to, no. But the money you donate will be used for the things you don't like about that politician as well as the things you like about them. Your intention then doesn't matter. And yeah, I agree. I should've mentioned that. It's in the statement, obviously, but I should've mentioned it directly as well. It's not the best solution, but I will write a pinned comment to clarify.

[@dangamertop9253]

@@pimscrypt Ok then, who is better than Trump to support. Only 2 answers: A) Trump B) Nobody (maybe the best option)

[@aetherialbeing4223]

@@pimscrypt Scott donated to them as he believed the belief he shares with them is the most important when running a Country. “Intention doesn’t matter”, no it does if you’re criticising the person

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

@@dangamertop9253 Lol. The funny thing is that you present this like a bad TellTales Game where we only get two extreme options because you're trying vainly to make a "point" when someone with a brain will tell you "Neither of those".

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

You're going to agree with them to some extent if you willingly donate to their campaigns. But hey, cishet people once again getting butthurt over LGBT+ folx not agreeing with them or playing by their rules of respectability politics and getting mad that you're immediate forgiveness of a cishet celebrity isn't shared by us because you don't speak for us or get to offer grace to people who do reprehensible shit like funding individuals looking to strip *us* of basic human rights and protections, something that does not personally affect you at all? Why am I not surprised!

[@arussianspy3114]

Ya god forbid someone doesn’t agree with you better get rid of him

[@pimscrypt]

Nobody got rid of him. He retired.

[@pinnstree8769]

Tilted towers is back

[@gummygrenade]

Personally, as a trans woman and a fan of FNAF, I will continue to buy Scott’s games. The GOP is largely not a great political party. I don’t think every member is a bad person (though, to my knowledge, every current member in congress is), and I don’t think Scott is either. I think he’s a man who’s unfortunately found himself in a situation where he falsely believes the word of liars and isn’t able to comprehend the harm he’s doing. That doesn’t make him a bad person, it just makes him deeply flawed, as we all are.

[@johnzarek3628]

I commend you for being willing to try see things from other people's perspectives. Trying to ruin people's lives because they have different (mainstream) political options than you would be very intolerant.

[@J4M_1]

Oh I’m a bad guy for having a certain political opinion, oh, now I need to go into hiding, oh I’m the bad guy, oh, my entire life is jeopardize now, imo I don’t really care if he donated to trump, republicans or whatnots. It’s now a big deal. Scott also donated to charities, lgbtq+, etc

[@pimscrypt]

Maybe you should watch the video before commenting buddy.

[@gabrielchastain6091]

Insulting those felt hurt is not helping them realize Scott isn't evil Infact your giving them more fuel to be upset

[@TheGuyWhoseesall-ii9uj]

What do you think of Scott as a person? Hopefully not as some irredeemable monster lol

[@pimscrypt]

It at least appears like he means well, which doesn’t negate the harm he’s caused, but to me it signals that he certainly could change for the better. I’m just not gonna sit and hope that he will.

[@TheRinguDinku5454]

He did nothing wrong in my eyes, people are allowed to vote and donate to whoever they want. Scott is a good guy, if you're upset by the fact he has different opinions, then ignore him. #thankyouscott #scottdidnothingwrong

[@pimscrypt]

Saying that “Scott is a good guy” when you presumably don’t know him other than in a parasocial way is pretty bold.

[@dangamertop9253]

But you can't say he's bad too.

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@pimscrypt But that dosent mean he isnt

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

His "opinions" are the reason trans people get murdered.

[@willporter1716]

Scott Has a different political opinion oh nooooo he’s such a bad person for HAVING A POLITICAL OPINON come on man he’s not a bad guy and y’all know that

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

I have never understood why political opinions are some trivial thing to certain people, it's how you think society should be Run. With an opinion on a movie or a ship, it won't actually hurt anyone. People's rights are not in that Category

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

His political opinions affect women, people of color and the LGBT.

[@rangermobile9238]

SCOTT CAWTHON FOREVER

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

Thank you for this video Pim! I'm glad to see someone who is actually part of the LGBT+ community (a fellow enby like me) speak up about this, and call out the bullshit, unlike the typical responses we got from cishet "allies" like Dawko and MatPat where they over-extended themselves to protect Scott, opting to treat him with kid gloves, and affirm that "while I don't agree with what he did, I still support him and the games" which didn't shock me at all, because no matter how much cishet "allies" want you to believe that they're "on your side" and "care about you", they will protect their cis-heteronormative peers first every time. Yeah, it sucks Scott received death threats, but I can't forgive him for what he did. He proved that his "support" of the LGBT+ community was a lie and meant nothing with how recently he donated money to politicians looking to punish us for being ourselves and existing. You don't get to donate to The Trevor Project and say "I'm an ally of queer folx", while also donating money to the likes of Tr*mp, Carson, McConnell and their ilk. You literally can't claim to care about us, while then donating to organizations looking to exterminate us. That's not how it works. Doxxing and death treats are not okay, but cishet people also do not get to tell LGBT+ folx how we should feel or that we can't be angry when an "ally" actively fucks us over. I don't feel sorry for Scott because his harassment ended pretty quickly, and he's going to be fine in the long run. It's LGBT+ folx who are going to suffer in the long run because of the politicians he donated money too, and still have to deal with fair-weather allies turning on us when we behave in a manner they don't approve of, and decide we deserve harassment for it. We will always have to deal with harassment for who we are. Scott doesn't.

[@pimscrypt]

A short answer to a long and very well through out comment, but all I can say is that I couldn’t agree more!

[@gabrielchastain6091]

How come Scott and dawko or anyone are cishet allies for saying that they don't agree with him but don't hate or dislike him and his games You realize that they don't need to hate his guts or stop playing his games to not hate or dislike the LGBT

[@gabrielchastain6091]

Well actually while he won't get as much there will always be people now from your group who arnt as humble as others who will make it there mission to bully and harass him for life so yeah he will have to deal with it Because just like you He is still vulnerable to people or disagree with him

[@gabrielchastain6091]

He does care by the way once again He was concerned for future issues that may have caused you far more harm if not tooken care of first You didn't even ask what he was voting for them was for you just assumed he wanted you gone That's stupid That's like saying a republican who likes guns voted for a democratic who hated them means he actually hates guns even though he may have been voting for them for another issue that he felt needed to be taken care of like ensuring freedom for all or maybe he thinks the minimum wage should be higher for all Scott most likely voted for these candidates for other issues he felt would cause issues later on for the LGBT if not take care of There are plenty who fight for the here or now but what about the future and instead of seeing that way you just called him and anyone who doesn't have his guys a fucking ally You sound idiotic And you screaming names hatefully at people ignorantly makes you seem like a moron to outside parties who will indefinitely be drawn away from your movement by your idiotic and hateful name calling

[@pabungus]

Breaking news: Man has political opinions which are different to yours. This person knows two equations: republican = bad democrat = good

[@pimscrypt]

I will never not find it funny that people on here keep assuming that I’m supportive of either of those political parties. An absolutely americapilled take.

[@pabungus]

@@pimscrypt I’ve actually taken Brit pills since I was a kid, not too sad about that though those guys in the states have it pretty rough, or so I’m told. But to be fair you aren’t necessarily painting either of these sides in a moral grey are you? I guess that’s the side-effect of videos like this which are really political but aren’t necessarily meant to spark a debate of any sort, you are just meant to go “oh, these people are objectively terrible I guess, moving on”.

[@SeattleWaffle]

Video "why tulsi?" Me, *spit take * , oh you sweet pure child you don't know who she is and what she has done/said...

[@pimscrypt]

Well the point of the video is to explain to folks who don’t know so.

[@mori8706]

Scott just donated 50k to the trevir project

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

So? Watch the video again. Suddenly donating to a pro-LGBT+ organization does not automatically negate all of the money donated to anti-LGBT+ politicians looking to strip us of basic human rights and protection, nor does it "prove" that Scott is suddenly rethinking his stance which he made abundantly clear in his first post that he has no intention of changing. All it does is prove that Scott is aware of the backlash and valid criticism he got from the LGBT+ community, and is swiftly attempting to remain in our good graces by making a pittance of a donation to a pro-trans organization. ($50k is not much considering how much he has because of his cash cow franchise.) And, as Pim pointed out, these charities would not be needed if cishet people just showed kindness and empathy to the LGBT+ community in the first place, instead of demonizing and othering us, and attempting to eradicate us. You cishets will cling to doing the bare fucking minimum as "proof" of your "support" of my community, and it's gross how many people will let you get away with it because we've been so thoroughly beaten into acceptance of meager scraps. So no. Who cares if he donated to the Trevor Project? He did it out of fear of being "cancelled" (again, as Pim stated, no one is going to cancel Scott because no one actually cares that much that he donated to an actual fascist and his cronies) and because he's trying to get back the goodwill he lost. Fuck Scott.

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@cannibalisticrequiem nor does it mean that it isn't his apologize and that he has realized his mistake and is trying to fix it

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@cannibalisticrequiem he already said he did not care about being cancelled and is trying to make amends for hurting you as he probably feels as if he has hurt people badly and wants to show them he does not hate you but instead of seeing that you just saw him trying to make y'all happy to forgive him and that he should go fuck himself

[@gabrielchastain6091]

@@cannibalisticrequiem quit calling anyone who says anything against you a cishet in every comment you reply to your not helping outside parties see the LGBT as anything but what you are And that's a name calling hypocrite Please stop you are damaging outside people's views of your party and are making enemies harming the LGBT

[@obliviongigan6360]

@@cannibalisticrequiem You're arguments are so stupid i lost all of my brain cells

[@dracorex426]

I feel including Tulsi Gabbard's transphobia in this discussion may have been a good idea.

[@pimscrypt]

I honestly didn't even know about that, but yes. That just makes things even worse actually.

[@Areliableguy]

I think I like scott better now

[@jonasribeiro2001]

Scott is a good guy

[@liviwaslost]

Good people can still do bad things.

[@Relcilisity_Official]

@@liviwaslost🤓

[@belle5896]

Sorry but I cant watch this. I dont want to ruin scott and fnaf for me...

[@pimscrypt]

I understand and respect that, even though I think everyone should be aware of this. I guess I’m thankful that you left a comment though!

[@belle5896]

@@pimscrypt that you for your understanding. I will probably watch it some time soon but at the moment I couldnt handle such a thing bc I love these games and I grew up with them

[@how8955]

Hey Jimbo! Did you know that at the time Scott donated it was before all this crazy claims about these people came out, now aint that just quackin-crazy Jimbo?

[@pimscrypt]

You clearly didn’t watch the video. Or you’re just straight up lying. And I’m not sure why.

[@CH3TN1K313]

OH NO!!! HE VOTED FOR A PRESIDENT THAT MADE HIS NATION BETTER & WASN'T ASHAMED TO ADMIT IT!!! OH NO!!! Losers, keep exposing yourselves.

[@pimscrypt]

Yup, you sure did.

[@CH3TN1K313]

@@pimscrypt Like a video you spent your time on & posted to bash someone you "respected" until you found out his personal beliefs hurt your fee fees? seethe

[@pimscrypt]

Dude you’re the one who’s outing yourself as a fascist sympathizer. It’s hard to be much more of a loser than that. But keep trying if you want I guess.

[@CH3TN1K313]

@@pimscrypt AHAHAHHAA "fascist sympathizer"... Oh no no no no! lmao SEETHE. Loving America = "fascist sympathizer" lmao. Keep going, please don't stop!

[@pimscrypt]

Loving America and claiming that Trump made America better is not synonymous. You wrote that Trump made "the nation better". Trumps is a fascist, or if you want to get technical and call him a pseudo-authoritarian or whatever. It would seem to me then that you are a fascist sympathizer. The fact that you don't realize it yourself is perhaps as funny as it us alarming.

[@mr.x6313]

So the fuck what?

[@AnthonyMatheus22]

I became even more of a fan of this guy! from Brazil 🇧🇷

[@MichaelO2000]

I’m sure you know this cause you seem to have tons of knowledge of this series already(Which is a reason this video is so good!), but the newer fnaf games aren’t developed only by Scott. FNAF HW and FNAF SB are made by Steel Wool Studios. An indie company, but still a company with more than one person working on it. Scott seems to have creative control and collaboration on these projects. But he is not the sole developer anymore. The FNAF mobile game Special Delivery is made by Illumix, another company. Scott also at one pointed posted that a AAA FNAF game associated with Universal was planned. Even though FNAF had started out as an indie franchise, it has become part of the gaming industry system that you talked about. Does a portion of the money still go to Scott? Yeah, currently it does. But I think if it does in the future will depend on the nature of Scott’s retirement.

[@zerr0432]

I honestly wish I could separate the game from it's creator 😔. Why did Scott have to do this.

[@pimscrypt]

It really fucking sucks. :(

[@yourfatboy5359]

Do you even know why he donated the money

[@WAEVOICE]

Yeah, how dare he exercises his freedom to the extent that he's *seemingly* supporting someone who's striving to bereave others of theirs!

[@zerr0432]

@@WAEVOICE was this comment really necessary?

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

@@yourfatboy5359 Yes. Scott gave a flaccid excuse of why, and the bigots bought it hook line and sinker.

[@sleepngnight]

L

[@_dFour_]

Ladies Gentlemen and Non Binary Individuals, dont forget... pirating and not talking about the product outside of your inner circle is a thing you can do. Don't kill the author, kill their revenue!

[@THATRANDOMDUDE99999]

Mm yes, because pirating is somehow now accepting. 🗿

[@_dFour_]

​@@THATRANDOMDUDE99999 yes, especially nintendo stuff ;)

[@THATRANDOMDUDE99999]

dFour Objection 🗿

[@zerr0432]

So crimes are now ok? 🗿

[@THATRANDOMDUDE99999]

@@zerr0432 Apparently.

[@thearmellocityarchive6601]

When did we politics get in the way of human decency. Why is it so horrible that Scott is conservative. Can we look past politics for once?

[@pimscrypt]

Your personal politics very much influences what you even define as “decency”. In Scott’s case, the decent thing was to give money to people who hate trans people, who’ll refuse them the medical care they need, refuse them their rights and even their existence, and leave them in the gutter. That’s the only lack of decency here. It’s very easy to ask if we can “look past the politics” if those politics don’t affect you. Not everyone has that luxury.

[@thearmellocityarchive6601]

@@pimscrypt I’m not a trump supporter but I feel we should look at the other things that Scott’s done. Should we cancel a person who saves people from a burning building because they are conservative?

[@thearmellocityarchive6601]

@@pimscrypt besides how do you know that Scott specifically believes against trans people?

[@pimscrypt]

If you think that this is about canceling someone I don’t think you’ve watched the video. Or enough of it.

[@thearmellocityarchive6601]

@@pimscrypt sorry bad wording on my part, what I mean is that we shouldn’t refer to a conservative as bad or inherently wrong and ‘should be criticized’

[@dangamertop9253]

7:04 I don't get it, what is he saying wrong?

[@ChuChuTren]

Nice bait.

[@dangamertop9253]

@@ChuChuTren I'm actually being serious right now, what wrong did he say

[@pocowoso1436]

@@dangamertop9253 He said nothing wrong lmao, he was speaking truth

[@dangamertop9253]

@@pocowoso1436 Yes, and this guy puts this as an argument of Trump being bad

[@liviwaslost]

Calling Mexicans rapists, sexist comments, and probably other stuff.

[@edgarbenitez3470]

Dude everyone who’s mad at Scott, y’all are part of the problem, ur condemning some dude because he’s donating money to some that you (and I) don’t agree with, but that has nothing to do with the games he creates or all the good things he’s done ( the other donations, the initiative to help other small devs make their own games are some examples) u guys are just mad because he’s not left leaning, you think he donated to specifically oppress the left or to boost racist people in the right, but I mean literally he just did what in his head thought was right, he gave his financial support to people that he believed deserved it, and he got threats to his self and his family for it, as for the creator of this video, it was very well made (except for the omission of the community threatening Scott wtf dude that’s mad important) I just think ur enabling everyone to hate on some dude who is a republican and everyone treats it like he’s some sort of psycho for it.

[@pimscrypt]

The majority of this comment makes me feel like you didn’t watch more than a couple of minutes of the video. Apparently you did though, so I really don’t understand why you’re present arguments that I’ve already answered. As for the doxxing and death threats, please read the pinned comment.

[@edgarbenitez3470]

I think I expressed myself in a shitty way, I agree with your point, i really agree with your metaphor about Scott’s donations fueling problems, and donating to other places that only stop the issue not the cause, I just think that ur point at the end is great, but this video is just gonna be taken as a further Opportunity to shit in Scott Cawthons coffee. I’m definitely the person who thinks this an exaggeration, but that doesn’t mean that I agree with the actions he did, I just don’t like the cancel culture around it and dislike the fact that other people (specifically not you) use this as an opportunity to just go on Twitter and continue to be psycho losers who cancel anything that moves. Also this is the first video I’ve seen from you and I subscribed ur cool af, I just hate cancel culture

[@pimscrypt]

I think I understand, and I’m glad that you like my work. I don’t agree about the cancel culture thing though. As I said in the video, I don’t think that anything is going to change for Scott. He’s still a millionaire and people will still buy his games. The only difference is that he retired, which he chose to do himself. I honestly can’t name a single case where someone had their entire lives ruined because of supposed cancel culture. Unless we’re talking about people who ended up in jail which… they deserved. Hell, Kevin Spacey is getting new roles again, and he was basically the face of cancel culture for a while! The truth is: cancel culture isn’t real. If anything it should be consequence culture, because actions do have consequences.

[@edgarbenitez3470]

@@pimscrypt you know what, I admit reading ur comment ur kinda changing my mind on it, that’s a good perspective on the fact it doesn’t change his bottom line

[@pimscrypt]

I'm glad that you are open for other perspectives, really!

[@RageAllCaps]

It shouldn't be any of yours or anyone else's business who scott donated money to.

[@pimscrypt]

You do realize where Scott got his wealth from, right? The fans that has bought his games over the years have every right to be upset about him using their money to support lawmakers that’ll make some of those fans lives a living hell.

[@RageAllCaps]

@@pimscrypt The fans gave him money for his games, which he delivered. Who he supports politically isn't anyone's business. It's completely irrelevant.

[@pimscrypt]

@@RageAllCaps Writing it twice won’t make it more true.

[@liviwaslost]

People have the right to know where people donate.

[@RageAllCaps]

@@liviwaslost It shouldn't matter. It's like harassing someone into telling you who they voted for.

[@johnzarek3628]

You previously considered Scott a great person and a great artist, but then he had a different political option than you. Pim is the most intolerant person ever.

[@Reptilemaine]

Bruh these people go way to far trump 2024!🇺🇸

[@typeblaze6557]

Ok so people are mad at him because he chose to be republican he has a choice and he can choose his beliefs what makes me mad about this is people can’t respect other peoples opinions any more

[@pimscrypt]

He has a choice, yes. Just like I have a choice not to agree or respect him because of that choice.

[@typeblaze6557]

@@pimscrypt yes you are correct but the fact that people are threatening him over this is insane

[@pimscrypt]

@@typeblaze6557 That's a completely different issue. No one is saying that the threats against him were justified.

[@Halucygeno]

Lesson learned - if your shitty political and moral beliefs (he said he was pro-life, yikes) come to light AFTER you've built up a considerable fanbase, it's all fine and everyone will conveniently compartmentalise art from creator while continuing to produce FNAF content and milk the franchise's popularity for views. I don't think I've seen a single of the major channels that built their following on (or pivoted towards making) FNAF content take a real stand and stop covering the series. The biggest joke was when MatPat made a video denouncing Scott's actions, yet said that he would continue making FNAF videos "for the community", carrying on as if nothing happened. Does it not occur to him that he's basically a walking advertisement for Scott and his IP at this point? I guess money has the final word.

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

I'm not trying to attack you, please understand that what I'm about to comment I want to do it respectfully I really have no intentions to hurt anyone in any way but let me ask the following questions, in your opinion, should all of these people who have made some sort of content and gotten something out of it get rid of everything they've done? this being, all of the fnaf fangames, fnaf fanmade vhs tapes, fnaf songs, and even fnaf inspired projects such as Harmony and Horror and walten files, all of these people who put a lot of effort into doing something unique, not even directly supporting the original creator, should just give up on everything they've worked on because of something someone else did they had no control over?, please understand that I'm not trying to say you're absolutely wrong and I'm right, I'm jus trying to share another point of view on this. my point is, if someone does or gets something inspired or based on FNAF, should they stop doing that because someone else did something they had no control over. E.g. if someone was developing a fnaf based game and put a lot of effort into it but just realized what Scott had done, should they cancel the project? I'm not trying to say you're wrong to stop supporting the franchise that's your choice, I just want to have an honest discussion.

[@Halucygeno]

@@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu Short answer, no. You don't need to delete all your past content or stop being inspired by FNAF because the author turned out to be a prick. Long answer, you definitely should STOP ASSOCIATING with them afterwards. Make all the fangames you want, keep your old videos, but making new videos about the FNAF lore (cough cough MatPat cough) or speculating about the new Security Breach DLC while acting like the whole "donated thousands of dollars to Donald Trump" thing is water under the bridge is just intellectual cowardice. They ARE acting as a conduit for Scott's intellectual property, they're basically free advertising. I guess these days everyone has completely lost faith in boycotts as a practice, but I'm not even concerned about effectiveness at this point. If you stop making FNAF content, I seriously doubt it will cut into Scott's bottom line (it's a phenomenon, a franchise too big to fail), but it will at least show that you're principled. If I was a dev working as part of the "Fazbear Fanverse Initiative", I'd quit. I'd still work on and release the fangame, but I sure as hell wouldn't do it with funding from a Trump supporter (I don't know how much the Fanverse Initiative devs get paid, maybe I'd change my tune if it was life-saving stuff and they needed it to work on the games full-time or something). I find it appalling that Phisnom (the FNAF+ dev) had a falling out with the fandom after the release of Security Breach, and NOT when it turned out his source of funding is an unabashed conservative. Finally, let's not delude ourselves. Some have defended Scott on the grounds that he's a private individual with entitlements to his own opinions. On one hand, yes, he is an individual. On the other, whether he likes it or not, he is a public figure: an owner of a hugely profitable multimedia franchise with countless merchandising deals. He isn't a scrappy underdog indide-dev making games from his bedroom anymore, he is partnering with studios to release games for all major platforms. People cannot just be totally nonchalant about the political views of someone this influential. I'm not saying "go doxx him". I'm not saying "go harass him on his social media". I'm not saying "delete every FNAF video you've ever made". I'm not saying "stop being inspired by the FNAF aesthetic and gameplay style". I'm saying "stop making content promoting the main FNAF series, and if you absolutely have to mention it for some reason, remind people that the author spent their FNAF money donating to anti-trans politicians". And I'm sorry if this comes off as condescending, but giving up on FNAF really isn't the end of the world. I'm very young, and even I know that fandoms come and go, you move on, life continues. There are many, many things out there you can take inspiration from which aren't made by shitty people (or at least openly shitty people). These KZbin channels aren't continuing to make FNAF content because it's the only interesting horror game in existence. Thare are plenty of other, more niche horror fandoms they can branch out to; most FNAF KZbinrs actually already do this, posting videos about less known horror games between their main FNAF uploads. So why not just stop doing FNAF and fully jump ship to horror variety content? Because the huge FNAF fandom rakes in the views, and they have no principles. It's as simple as that.

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

@@Halucygeno Hello, first of all, thanks for replying, I think you are an understanding person, and I'm grateful that your response was so respectful, I hope that you keep on understanding I just want to try to share my point of view and not trying to attack or harm anyone, so I keep on replying in hopes to develop a civilized discussion. So if we forget FNAF for a moment, let's say that hypothetically I am a very huge fan of Arcane, it is one of my favorites shows of all time and as for today, there hasn't been any sort of controversy on the creator. So let's say that I hypothetically I consume Arcane, content, music, videogames, and merch. Years go by, and by let's say 2035, it is revealed that the creator of the show molested several people at some point between this time. So should I in your opinion, stop supporting the franchise the moment I find out, even though this event happened way before it was revealed, meaning that it was okay to like and support it when I was shielded behind the protection of ignorance? I mean, you say that there are other content creators who aren't aholes that we can support, but that's only as far as we know, and we would have to dispose of each of them when they're revealed to have done something terrible. So as for now we are allowed to like all of those other content creators, but as they are revealed to have done something bad we take them out of that list, and as for the shield of ignorance I mentioned earlier, if someone tested a game and they thought it was truly enjoyable while being shielded by ignorance that at that time people didn't know what the creator had done. But someone else finds out about the game after the reveal of this event, they are no longer allowed to try it. But if they had tried it a day prior to the announcement of the actions of the creator it would have been okay

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

Sorry for replying twice but if the comment is too long KZbin will delete it. So all of those other content creators who as for today have not yet been known to have done anything terrible we are still allowed to enjoy, we'll be allowed to enjoy them today and we'll be allowed to enjoy them tomorrow, but if by 23rd September of 2024 one of them does something terrible, it takes away our possibility to keep consuming it. Like all of those content creators that today we are allowed to enjoy and consume we are bound to wait for them to do something bad for it to not be a possibility for us anymore. So it's always going to be up to the creators whether we are allowed to consume their products or not. Not up to us, the range of things we are allowed to like is not up to us, it depends on something we have no control over. They, the creators have the power to take all of that away from us and we have no power over it. And I am so truly sorry to contradict you but I don't think there's anything simple about this matter.

[@EduardoMartinez-rs3bu]

@@Halucygeno you also mentioned something very interesting, how if you must talk about the creator then you must also talk about what they did. This could also be a way of dealing with the problem. A real example, JK rolling is a terrible person, and when you support, the franchise you support her, but what if for every mention you do of the Franchise, you also do mention of the terrible things she's done. That way people know about the franchise but are also aware of the creator's action. And if we speak monetarily, what if they also support LGBTQ communities while supporting merchandise of Harry Potter. Example, if they buy a $50 dollar item, they also give $80-100 to a community that supports the LGBT community.

[@Thefnafperson2000]

yes I get it that your mad that he doesn’t support lgbq and he said he would but you got your heart broke bc he didn’t do one thing right, how many other things has done for the fans and yeah I am gay but lgbq is just a Community the heart of lgbq is the people and no one can brake that yes they do really good things like donating money but he never said he hates the lgbq like this other people did but point is don’t focus on one bad thing he made games,books and a movie which I can’t wait the 2nd comes out but don’t treat hime like this, be treated the way you wanted to be treated.

[@chipotlethief9538]

Scott didn’t just “do an oopsy” he donated to people who share his beliefs. So….

[@Leff16]

wow this comment section is in denial

[@pimscrypt]

It really is.

[@spiritboxgamer2787]

@@pimscrypt Not the echo chamber you was expecting?

[@sm3argleliker]

nah most just don’t care, myself included

[@ThanosBup]

1 2 amogus sussy

[@ジェニスタ]

Scott Cawthon supported trump, now he's dead to me

[@theskinman1948]

You need to grow up.

[@ジェニスタ]

@@theskinman1948 Sorry I can't stand behind a creator whose ideology demonizes my existence, I am grown up enough to know who's a good person and who isn't.

[@patrokus6889]

@@ジェニスタ if he supported Biden you could just as easily say he's racist. Don't be an idiot because you disagree with his politics, he stated that he donated to them for reasons independent of their stance of the lgbt community. He has donated more money to charities that support the lgbt community than he has to republican candidates so cut the crap. He created a community with many people in the lgbt community and at any point could have alienated them, but instead he went as far as making mangle non-binary, cut the bs and grow up, he isn't demonising you because you are demonising him. Your jumping to conclusions and making a villain out of a man who did more for the community than your sorry ass ever will. From my perspective your making a villain out of a good man, hence making you a bad person.

[@theskinman1948]

@@ジェニスタ so because Scott’s political and social inclinations air more on the side of Trump’s than Biden’s, he is a bad person?

[@ジェニスタ]

@@theskinman1948 You can't be much of a good person if you support homophobes and racists. Please, let's not have this discussion

[@christiankalafut5572]

You should have stayed out of this one. Stick to children’s video games please. Imagine people actually disagreeing with you over a highly controversial topic and that it doesn’t mean their evil. Imagine that maybe you have got it wrong, another amazing, humbling experience.

[@klipsfilmsmelbourne]

He is Christian he knows the Christian Gods commandments I think he still follow the laws

[@thestoic4629]

At least he didn’t donate to the democrats

[@johnzarek3628]

This is such an intolerant video. The artist that you previously liked happens to like some mainstream politicians that you don't like. Therefore you make a smear video about him. Terrible.

[@pimscrypt]

Smear video = Pointing out something a person has done and stand by doing

[@pocowoso1436]

For the record, I now have even MORE reason to praise Scott. Him supporting Trump was amazing to hear. People can do whatever tf they want, Pim. People have different opinions, so shut up lmao

[@pimscrypt]

That you claim that people have different opinions and that people can do whatever they want in the same sentence as you tell me to shut up is pretty damn ironic, don't you think?

[@pocowoso1436]

@@pimscrypt Was I referring to your right to have an opinion? No. I was referring to yourself being an arrogant douche

[@pimscrypt]

@@pocowoso1436 You mean unlike you, who told me to shut up and called me an arrogant douche because I said some things about a video game developer that you have an seemingly unconditional fondness for?

[@dangamertop9253]

@@pimscrypt Well, your opinion is that other opinions are wrong, so ur basically saying shut up, just in other words.

[@pimscrypt]

@@dangamertop9253 Criticism and telling someone to literally shut up about their opinion is absolutely not the same thing. Scott can say and do basically what he wants, just as I can say anything about those actions - just as much as you are allowed to bring your perspective to the issue. If you think that Scott didn't do anything wrong - just say that. You don't have to try and rewrite the meaning of critique in order to justify your beliefs. But yeah, in my personal opinion, the belief that what Scott did was right is simply trash. And you have to deal with that.

[@theyawningowlbear6758]

And then what was once a decent icon of pop culture, turned to trash after creator departure from death threats given by unstable minded individuals who were easily triggered on difference of choice, and opinion. This lead to the eventual passing over of the torch, to incompetent developers, bringing us the dumpster fire that is now security breach. At that point I realized why fans walked away. Everything that gave this man's series its horror substance is no longer there. I don't care about his politics, I care about what he produces, and is it entertaining for several hours of my day. Sadly it's downhill from there. Thank you to the tools who had nothing better to do but harass this man. Be it star trek, star wars, marvel, dc, warhammer, or whatever stirs your lower bowels to utter disgust, you never cease to amaze me at your softness and lack of control. If you saw something you didn't like or agreed with, just stfu and walk away.

[@johnschmar481]

Eh. People can have their opinions. It doesn't really matter if Scott votes for this or that, I just wanna play good vidya at the end of the day. I wouldn't call it bad or evil like most, and for stuff like this I'd just say that you should separate the art from the artist. I don't really think that info like that should be anyone's business anyways.

[@pimscrypt]

It's very easy to say that it doesn't matter when you don't belong to the group of people who would be affected by it the most.

[@crimsond4210]

@@pimscrypt it doesn’t affect you in any way, you just want to cry and complain about something. Grow up the real world isn’t always going to agree with your political stances.

[@pimscrypt]

@@crimsond4210 I do believe donating to and voting for politicians who literally promise to make lives worse for certain groups of people would actually have a real life affect on those people, yes. You do realize that politics isn’t just something people argue about online, that it’s something that literally controls your life, right?

[@crimsond4210]

@@pimscrypt the politicians that you claim “literally” promise to make your life worse did no such thing. Get off the internet you’re brainwashed.

[@Jonnymad1245]

​​@@crimsond4210 they don't research he donated to any politicians who he likes the policies that left and right

[@alliu6562]

“Better for the community in the long run” This man literally supported people who want to ELECTROCUTE US until we stop being LGBT+. Like in WHAT WORLD lmAO? Anyways it’s. It’s horrible. I only watch fnaf vids if I think I’m trying to support a smaller creator

[@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263]

Proof they want to electrocute people? Where is it?

[@Relcilisity_Official]

🤡

[@oyaoyasimpoyaoyaoya5254]

I still really love fnaf. Scott is a bad person, yes. But I separate the art from the artist. (Fnaf was made by Scott but Fnaf is not him, Scott made fnaf but he’s not fnaf) that’s my view point.

[@Relcilisity_Official]

🤓

[@gabrielcitrowske8897]

I know this is old but can you tell me how he is a bad person? for donating to someone you don't support? he can have his own political views just like you have your own. He literally donated to them in private and he didn't ask anybody to look through and find who he donated to. He wasn't trying to start a whole debate. How would you feel if somebody searched through your personal life and found this and now everybody is attacking you because they have a different viewpoint.

[@oyaoyasimpoyaoyaoya5254]

@@gabrielcitrowske8897 yeah searching through someone’s personal life is not okay at all. But the whole point I am trying to make is that how he donated to a cause that could actually hurt people. Especially now, just look at the US, and all of the bills being past. Those bills put people in danger. Scott might not be a bad person, but him donating to an organization, that support these harmful bills, isn’t okay. I really don’t care about who or what he supports, as long as it doesn’t hurt multiple people.

[@gabrielcitrowske8897]

@@oyaoyasimpoyaoyaoya5254 But it's his money he can do whatever he wants with it. Just because he donates to a president doesn't mean he supports everything Trump does. You can't just make assumptions that he's a racist, homophobic and all the things people claim that Trump is. He supports Trump because he thinks he would do the best on running the country.

[@oyaoyasimpoyaoyaoya5254]

@@gabrielcitrowske8897 I know that it’s his money. But by donating his money to Trump, is in turn supporting Homophobic, Transphobic and Racist bills. Scott doesn’t deserve to get doxxed or get death threats. I’m not saying he’s homophobic etc, I’m saying that he supported a person that is homophobic, racist and transphobic,that’s it. I don’t support his action but I can support his game.

[@tekimpo]

Now you acknowledge this is a free country and people have the right to support any candidate he or she wants and you move on with your life.

[@pimscrypt]

I'm curious about the relevance of the claim that "this is a free country". You do realize that I'm not an american, or that there are hundreds of thousands of people who previously supported Scott who aren't either? I'm gonna entertain that thought though. Yes, people are free to support Scott as much as they like. They are also free to *not* do that based on the reveal of this information. I am likewise free to make a video about why I personally think people shouldn't support him. I'm sorry if that bothers you.

[@ZAYSATORU_]

Shout out to Ben carson!

[@pimscrypt]

I’ll give him one thing, few people have managed to be completely wrong as consistently as him.

[@GooeyGremlin]

Big oof.

[@pimscrypt]

Yup.

[@elijahoettel1325]

The existence of this video is sad and disgusting. Shaming someone for believing one way, even if you disagree is wrong. He had the right to disagree with you, and that is not bad, we all have the right to have and form our own opinions, and him expressing his is by no way a bad thing. He doesn’t have to change, people just have to tolerate each other and allow each other to believe what they believe. Honestly super sad.

[@woighthreene]

Your acting like people aren’t allowed to not support someone because of their actions that is ridiculous

[@crimsond4210]

@@woighthreene you’re all acting like he did something horrible when in reality he didn’t. He can decide to do with his money what he pleases. Point blank period. Grow up and stop crying

[@woighthreene]

@@crimsond4210 yea I’m literally saying I can choose not to support someone because of how they are using the power I give them. Freedom of speech

[@crimsond4210]

@@woighthreene not supporting him is one thing, demonizing him for his political beliefs is another. And for the side who claims to be inclusive and reasonable it’s quite ironic.

[@woighthreene]

@@crimsond4210 demonetizing wtf he got money from people. People can choose to stop giving money if they want

[@yourfriendlycynic654]

Sorry but would you be making a video if he'd donated money to far left politicians? I seriously doubt it. Who's business is it who he donates money to? How can you seriously justify villifying a man so much just for being on the opposite end of the political spectrum

[@pimscrypt]

I wouldn’t be making a video about him if he’d supported a far left politician because far left politics actually acknowledge that trans people deserve basic human decency.

[@yourfriendlycynic654]

@@pimscrypt Far Left politicians would also cause far more damage to society than any of the people Scott donated to. If you can't see that, you're blind. Does the trans cult seriously mean that much to you?

[@Jonnymad1245]

​@@pimscrypt he has donated to democrats as well and donated to LGBTQIA charities if you did research you would of known but you're tol focused on trump 😂

[@RichConnerGMN]

@@yourfriendlycynic654 "trans cult" average rightist

[@simnm8057]

​@@pimscryptfar left politicians support grooming and genital mutilation you expect normal people to support that lmao