Zeapon Micro 2 Series (600 & 800) | In Depth Tutorial

[@Bostich]

Mine (motorized) came with the NP-F970 battery (thicc) - and I think I need to get some rubber bands, this battery falls out very easily, as in - make sure you orient the device in such a way that the battery is 'Up' or it has a fair chance of falling out. Also came without any of these great manuals, just a very short one describing all the parts.

[@ScottDumas]

Hey, sorry for the trouble there. It seems like that is a problem a lot of people had and the newer motors have been updated with a locking battery port. (the "Plus" model).

[@Mike0193Azul]

Very helpful thank you 💚 I was originally going for the micro 2 plus but think I want the longest 800 size instead with the pan and tilt motor accessory

[@davidp158]

Wow, Zeapon did quite a revision on the base for these sliders. Lots of interesting new features, and it looks to be wider and thus more stable. I wish there was a way to disable the slider motor for quick, manual slider moves. Relying on the limited number of speeds via the motor switches is restrictive. I would much prefer a dedicated remote control for the motorized features than a phone app. Overall, this looks like a fine product, but I'm waiting to see what Zeapon comes up with for a motorized head (and remote control) before investing into this system.

[@ScottDumas]

Yeah they definitely took a lot of feedback from the original. I do agree that a quick "off" switch to go back to manual would be nice, but I've got by decently well with the 3 preset speeds... at least to the point that I don't feel the need to pull out my phone and use the app very often, if ever. I might be the minority there though. A dedicated remote would be interesting, I'll mention it to them. The motorized head I think will be the biggest thing out of all of this. They have an awesome base system and if they nail the design of the head it will be a huge huge hit and it's the last piece of the puzzle a lot of people are waiting for. Very much looking forward to it myself.

[@davidp158]

@@ScottDumas any news on development of the motorized head?

[@ScottDumas]

@@davidp158 unfortunately not yet. I’m hoping real soon.

[@invi_carlos]

This video is great. I am definitely going to buy the 600. Your replies to comments are equally as helpful.

[@ScottDumas]

Thanks so much! I appreciate it and think you'll definitely love it :)

[@ixmendoza4955]

I wish I could get a hold of someone at the company. The support legs did not come with the "kit" from B&H. Seems like a pretty critical component but even the Zeapon site doesn't have them for sale...just the suction cups, wheels and quick release. When one tries to click on the "Find a Store" button, it just dead ends. I've emailed them, but get no responses.

[@artmm1353]

Hi Scott, thanks for the great review. does the motorized version work manually?

[@ScottDumas]

Hi! The new “plus” model is made so you can easily remove the motor and use it manually, but I was told the original sliders weren’t made with that in mind so the results wouldn’t be good... not sure exactly what would happen but it wasn’t officially recommended

[@nexttvc]

Hi nice review. but you didn't mention what ball heads you used on these sliders. I saw two ball heads can you name it.

[@ScottDumas]

Hi! I use a variety and it will depend on if you have any already or have personal preferences for size, strength, plate design etc. The ones I've been using lately are from ARTCISE and I have 2 different sizes, both work great and are Arca Swiss compatible. I had an Arca Swiss brand head before but I'll admit it's a little overpriced. I like the ARTCISE ones because the whole head can pan as usual but also the plate mount itself can pan, so once you get a level setting you can pan without messing up your horizon.

[@nexttvc]

@@ScottDumas Thank you. I love ARTCISE too.

[@bradmarlin2964]

QUESTION - Just getting around to installing the M600 motor on my Micro2 ( as shown ). However, my stock slider belt is attached via an allen-headed screw FROM THE TOP (not the bottom/underside) of the camera mount apparatus and into a THREADED metal connector that's attached directly to the stock belt. Again, not from the bottom as depicted in this video. Parts included with motor are NOT threaded nor is the camera mount apparatus, it cannot receive the threads of a screw.. Items are Micro 2 M600 with the Zeapon Micro 2 E600/M600 Camera Slider Motor.. Anyone have this issue and or any suggestions. Thanks in advance. Both were bought at the same time..

[@charlesnetzler2262]

Just got mine and the screws are bolted on so tightly making it impossible to even remove to attach the motor.

[@AndersVinkler]

Hi Scott, Great video. I have trouble with the app connecting, to the first version of the slider after the upgrade of the slider. My friend uses android, that works, but my iPhone 8, can´t find the Bluetooth at all. And it keeps comming up as micro 2 plus. And the app freezes!! :(

[@raphaelwong2532]

Awesome video Scott! You mentioned that the motors are all slightly different from the smallest slider to the E800, can you elaborate on this some more? I'm planning on getting the smallest motorized one then down the road buy the 600/800 and use the same motor. Thanks!

[@ScottDumas]

Thanks so much! I'm not sure entirely of all the little differences actually- I know the new motors and the original are different physically on the bottom, making room for the new little support wheels, and there are some differences with the length of the track built into the motors themselves for the different sizes, but I'm not sure if there's anything different beyond that.

[@raphaelwong2532]

@@ScottDumas Great thanks for replying!

[@boyztoyz121]

Scott, thanks for the great video. You mentioned the forthcoming pan/tilt head will work with the 600 and 800. Does this mean it will not work with the original micro 2?

[@ScottDumas]

I'm not 100% sure but I think it should still work with the original as well, or at least I don't (yet) see why not :)

[@boyztoyz121]

@@ScottDumas thanks

[@joshpark868]

Thank you for the review. Def enjoying the landscape shots of the town you live in. I'm hoping these are better than Edelkrone's sliders. Definitely will have to try to rent it. In order for this to be used as a B-Cam slider shot, I really do think it needs the pan motor module. Just a slide motor itself won't make this useful. p.s. I think your B-angle shot of your face can be done differently!

[@ScottDumas]

Thanks for watching! From what I've heard Edelkrone's sliders do have some issues and I haven't had any problems with this yet myself, except as you said I'm waiting for that pan motor to really make the most of it. Hope it's soon! Also, thanks for the advice for the B cam... just got a bunch of new cameras and lenses (switched over to Sony) so working out my angles etc at the moment haha. trial and error ;)

[@LennyandSandi]

@@ScottDumas Yes, this video is extremely spot on--like your other ones! As far as the pan/tilt modules, in this video, you mentioned they would be a great addition for the 600/800 units. Do you anticipate the modules would only work with those two units (600/800); I have the original Micro 2? Thanks!

[@ScottDumas]

@@LennyandSandi I'm not positive but I think they would work with all three including the original :) At least I don't see why not

[@LennyandSandi]

@@ScottDumas Awesome...thanks!

[@DimusTech]

I still think those are the best sliders, I wanted the Micro but now with the newer things like the supports etc. I want the 600, but since I'm still on to getting the R5 (and I'll want to add some lenses later on) those sliders will stay on the bucket list for now. I did though need a slider lately to shoot some upcoming video and ended up using my drawer in the closet since it has smooth rails and also my spinning computer chair to get some other movements (pretty creative ha?) I just have one question, can the motor of the slider be powered by USB-C only without a battery? (I don't want to buy more batteries )

[@ScottDumas]

That's an awesome DIY way to get the shots- in some ways it's great to think through and solve problems like that with creative methods, love it. As for the motor- I'm 98% sure that USB-C will work without a battery in there... tried it a long time ago and I have a terrible memory haha, but I don't think it should be a problem.

[@DimusTech]

@@ScottDumas Sadly I'm not always that creative, or at least not as much as I'd like to be. I actually think I saw it on your video about the Micro2 that it can be powered from USB-C so I guess both of us should have good enough memory? haha! Keep it safe there, we are probably going to be on 2 weeks quarantine here again, but I might use it for some creative new projects, who knows ;-)

[@GlennUpgraded]

Another great video Scott! 👏🏼 Love the attention to details. Zeapon are wonderful sliders! 🔥🔥🔥

[@ScottDumas]

Thanks so much man! Hope you enjoy yours too :)

[@oscarnf]

Great video!! We need the motorized head

[@ScottDumas]

Thanks so much and totally agreed! haha... I've been pushing them to hurry it up for a while now ;-P

[@jonatanlofberg]

Great review! Other than size and price, is there any difference between getting the first Micro 2 motorized, vs the E600?

[@ScottDumas]

Thanks! The base/support system is quite a lot different with extra features including a small but much appreciated one- multiple screw threads on the bottom and/or the built in plate- both which help to avoid the slider spinning loose on a tripod. The new ones also come with nicer carry bags than the original, as well as the new support arms for holding up heavier loads at further distances out from the center on a tripod.

[@JamieDewolfFilms]

Thanks for you great video! Just got my M800 tonight and on set up saw right away that it 'skips' or changes its pace (even manual) right at the center making for an uneven slide. It's almost like it gives way right at the center than catches back up. There a way to fix this? Do I have a bad model?

[@ScottDumas]

Hi! Sounds like you might possibly have a loose belt? I'd check that the connections to the center base are tight- otherwise, something more complex might be happening and I'd try and get in touch with Zeapon, possibly with a video showing the problem. Sorry if that doesn't help much!

[@edwardscruggs6555]

Very well presented and informative! Thank You 🙏

[@viceroybrownbill9681]

Hi Scott, love your review .Can you help ive got the E800 slider can i buy a new track from the motor end the track is missing the 3/8 female screew. Thanks in advance Roy

[@ScottDumas]

Hi! I'd advise you to check in with Zeapon- if you can't reach them by email, maybe try out messaging them on Facebook. They should be able to help you out. Cheers

[@viceroybrownbill9681]

@@ScottDumas Hi Scott, thanks for getting back so quick. Will try them on Facebook. Cheers

[@petarlupic7244]

Great review. Can you help? I can't pair the Sony camera to work in timelapse mode. I tried everything. I have a shutter cable, the slider works but they trigger the camera. If I turn on the timelapse on the camera, the app launches the trigger but they are not synchronized

[@frubo_ssg]

Thanks for your interesting ad - I just got the short Micro2 - but the stand doesn't have wheels - would have been - would have been an nice add on

[@ScottDumas]

ContentCreation by frborsch yeah unfortunately the original doesn’t come with the new base... I’d try contacting them and ask about it because it may be something you could get separately, at least the wheels to add on

[@frubo_ssg]

@@ScottDumas Thanks Scott! Guess I'll follow your hint. Best wishes, Rudi

[@ScottDumas]

@@frubo_ssg Thanks! I actually just saw a post on their facebook page talking about the wheels being available separately :)

[@rivierafocus5762]

Hi Skott, could you help me find the cable you are using to connect the slider to the camera?

[@ScottDumas]

Hi! This one was provided by Zeapon, you could possibly get one through them. I’m not much of a time lapse specialist so I’m honestly not sure what requirements the cable would have if you were to get another brand.

[@alchimista83]

Hi, great review. I have just one question: is there any news about new features? on the app there are some functions which are still not available and I can't find anything about a day of deployments.

[@ScottDumas]

Unfortunately, nothing that I know of yet as far as a pan/tilt motor at least

[@beautyofmyplanet]

Could you please tell me the weight of E600 and E800.

[@MOTIONTOGRAPHY]

Have you used the zeapon timelapse trigger yet?

[@ScottDumas]

Just to test its functionality, but I'm not a bit time lapse shooter myself. I have that included in one of my newest videos about the motorized pan/tilt heads if you're curious :)

[@itzikyeh]

Thank you very much for your great info review. Well done, I appreciate that a lot. I tried the original E2 and sent it after 1 day back, since it could not hold a bigger fluid head....do you think the E600 can hold it without any wobble? Thx a lot!

[@ScottDumas]

Thanks for watching! The mount is almost exactly the same so if you were having trouble before it may be the same now. I haven't had any issues with small to medium sized heads, either ball head or fluid head style... but it may depend on what you use.

[@davidp158]

It seems that the head mount is 1/4x20 which is disappointing. I wouldn’t trust a heavy video head and camera on such a small screw.

[@ScottDumas]

@@davidp158 Yeah that is a bit of a downer at times but I think it's inevitable since there's no way to smoothly downsize a 3/8 to 1/4 for heads that need it like smaller ball heads. I would only worry about it when using it with heavy cameras on a steep incline though, and the vertical payload is limited to around 4kg anyway (including the head itself, and even then 4kg is borderline)- which shouldn't put toooo much stress on it. I guess because of that, the 1/4" screw is not too too bad.

[@ScottDumas]

All you could ever want to know about the Zeapon Micro 2 series of sliders!

[@billyoung9538]

Do the new suction cups work with the original slider, or are they limited to the 600 & 800?

[@ScottDumas]

@UDcorn no longer looking for now, thank you for the offer though. Will keep you in mind for the future

[@ScottDumas]

@Bill Young I believe they should work, as long as you have a 1/4" screw (like on the legs) they should work with anything :) Can't remember exactly if the original base has those screw threads or not (I had a pre-production version of the original base and I think it's changed since then)

[@billyoung9538]

@@ScottDumas just thought I would let you know, after this video and the original micro 2 video you convinced me to order the micro 2. I had been researching what I wanted in a slider for quite some time, but I think the thing that won me over was the expandable modularity of this system. I ultimately want to have a motorized slider, but most quality motorized sliders are quite expensive. The fact these start as budget friendly quality non motorized sliders, and can be upgraded to be quality motorized sliders is a huge bonus, but the suction cup mounts were the tipping point. I've not seen another slider system anywhere near this price point with this potential, and it just opens up a lot of potentially interesting shooting options in the future..

[@ScottDumas]

@@billyoung9538 Awesome! Very much appreciate the input and happy to hear you like the system! :)

[@tfarfolini9742]

Do You think it is possible to add some (DIY maybe) parallax system to it? I own micro 2 motorized.

[@ScottDumas]

The closest I've come reliably/stably is to put the slider on a video tripod head and pan the head as the slider moves side to side.

[@nomad0714]

Hi Scott, Nice thorough review of the E600. Between the E800 and Micro 2 Plus, which one would you suggest. I like the flexibility length of the E800 but the portability of the Micro 2 Plus. Do you think the E800 will come out with a v2 or upgrade in the coming months like the Micro 2 did with the Plus?

[@ScottDumas]

In reality I use the micro2 or 600 more than the 800... I think the 800 really needs the support arms even more and it’s sometimes more trouble than it’s worth for a few quick shots. The 600 can get away without them a lot more often, and of course the micro 2. As for the “plus” update, that’s a good question. I’ll see what I can find out!

[@ScottDumas]

It seems that there isn't an immediate plan to upgrade the 600/800... they were already an incremental upgrade from the quality and design of the original Micro 2, but they're not compatible with the newest version of the motor.

[@nomad0714]

@@ScottDumas, thanks for the quick reply! If you were to start from scratch, which would you get first, Micro 2 Plus or the E600? For my use case, I will probably need a short (portable) and long slider (flexibility for interviews). Just wonder if I get the new Micro 2 Plus first and then wait for the upgrade of the E600/800. Your inputs would be appreciated since you have used both sliders. Much appreciate!

[@TomsOutdoors]

if you buy with the motor included can you change back to manual mod without any accessories?

[@ScottDumas]

I'm not sure if anything has changed but in the sliders I've got the motorized version does not come with the extra track you'd need after removing the motor. It 100% can be removed easily but you'd need that little extra piece of track to take its place. I'll double check if that's still true and also push them to please include it so that people can revert it to a manual slider if they want.

[@ScottDumas]

I just checked in and apparently some users reported that going from motorized to manual sometimes results in less smooth footage, so they don't recommend it and that's why they don't include the track in the kit.

[@DawahProject]

Hi, Scott! Thanx a lot for a great work. If I’ll by motorized version, will I regret for not having a possibility to manual slide? I just afraid that engine will break down one day and I will lose any possibility to work with slider. Or maybe one day I’ll want to slide manually

[@ScottDumas]

Hi! I'd say you won't regret it unless you're stuck without a battery. In terms of usage it works very quickly and easily, and I wouldn't be too concerned with it breaking down for quite a while at least.

[@credacrum]

Great review, i have the standard Zeapon Micro 2 slider. Do you have any idea what size pulley bearings the sliding unit takes?

[@ScottDumas]

Thanks so much! I have no idea unfortunately, but if you'd like I can try and find out? Or you could probably get in touch with Zeapon through Facebook fairly easily. They may be on holiday for a week or so starting now, but otherwise they're very responsive.

[@credacrum]

@@ScottDumas Ace thanks. I'll give that a go!

[@straightyankinem917]

What model is the smaller slider that you didn't describe? Thats the one I'm interested in. Thanks

[@ScottDumas]

That's the original, not sure if it has any special name besides the "micro 2"

[@straightyankinem917]

@@ScottDumas would you happen top know what size it is? thanks

[@ScottDumas]

@@straightyankinem917 it was just about 30cm if my memory is correct

[@aa-vr8li]

Hi Scott, After telling you about my problem with my M600 bag,zeapon answered my email immediately, but they still didn't offered me a proper solution. I don't care anymore tbh. I bought the m600 and after a month i ordered the motor.i contacted them first because the motor was not available on amazon germany, so they sent me a purchase link to aliexpress. After commenting on your chanel they offered me to purchase the bag for freaking 45$ including shipment which is crazy, i kind of thought they'd be nice enough to send me the bag with the motor i ordered for free or maybe for a lower fee,but they didn't. how can i carry my slider now after i receive and install the motor? The idiotic part is,that they could easily manufacture a fixed size bag,that both M600 and E600 could fit in it, then those who had bought the M600 could still use the bag after they've upgraded to E600.

[@ScottDumas]

Hey really sorry to hear about this. I'll see what I can do but I agree it should not cost that much if it costs at all. One of the main oversights they made- including a case that doesn't work if you expand on the system.

[@aa-vr8li]

@@ScottDumas thanks

[@BRTHStudio]

Hi, When will be a motorized pan and tilt head for this sliders ? In the app I can see the options... Thx

[@ScottDumas]

Hi! I unfortunately don't know when it's coming... but it IS coming haha. I've been encouraging them to get it out ASAP but that's all I know for now.

[@shutterhouse]

Where is your Zeapon Beany :😁 Like the new cam angles

[@ScottDumas]

SHUTTERHOUSE Zeapon! Send me a beanie!! Haha ...thanks for all the support man

[@aa-vr8li]

Great review. Finally zeapon made the right choice and choosed you as their ambassador. Btw,can you ask the company if they are releasing a pan and tilt module?

[@ScottDumas]

Thanks so much! :) They are working on it... I'm not sure exactly when it will be ready but it is under development (and I've been pushing them to get it out quickly haha)

[@edwinmumbe95]

@@ScottDumas can i buy the manual slider as i await for the release of pan/tilt module & buy it separate then fix it to the manual slider ?

[@exclusiveperfection5609]

My zeapon micro 2 e800 stop working rite out of the box. It went backwards and would not go back forwards. It was a waste of $700

[@ScottDumas]

I'm really sorry to hear that! Definitely worth a hassle free replacement, were you able to get in touch with them and resolve it?

[@tjpenton]

Returned mine. The foam between the main plate and the rails wore away in less than two month, causing the main plate to have slack and wiggle in it. Wiggle = unusable shots. Disappointed.

[@ScottDumas]

T.J. Penton really? I’m surprised to hear that, sorry! I’ve been using my original micro 2 for well over a year and it’s working as good as when I first got it, and I use it on a nearly daily basis.

[@tjpenton]

@@ScottDumas Trust me, I loved mine as well. Very smooth and I love how compact it it. But once wiggle play showed up between the head and the rails it was useless. I took it apart, checked every bolt several times. And it was the internal foam that just either soften up or something, causing the slack. Was lucky to return it, since it was out of the 30day window.

[@ScottDumas]

T.J. Penton that’s too bad man, I’ll have to keep an eye out for it

[@zahraahmadi3134]

Tbh the costomer service is not good. I got the m 600,and after q while i decided to order the motor. I contacted the costomer service to see if they can send me a bag(not for free),because the m600 bag will no longer be able to fit the e600. They said we can't send you one because of the shipping costs,they didn't even offer me a price. Great product, but bad costomer service

[@ScottDumas]

Sorry to hear that, I'll give the feedback to them to be careful with how they handle those situations. From what I've heard, they didn't originally plan to sell the bags individually at all but they are now considering to stock some resellers with them and make them more available. Let me know your email address and I'll try to get them sorted out with you

[@zahraahmadi3134]

@@ScottDumas thanks man you're awesome, ive already contacted them but they may listen to you much much better. Here is my email address:[e-mail]

[@ScottDumas]

@@zahraahmadi3134 Got it, I'll pass the info along.

[@leowong7335]

Cool tattoos，buddy :)

[@ScottDumas]

Thanks!! :)

[@FlyTyingMaterialsSYBAI]

Bad product, it has a design flaw! If the slider is on legs, for example on a table, there is a big shake when moving around the middle of the track - this is caused by a bad design: the support wheels go through the connection between the motor and the profile of the slider, there is a gap where the wheels sink into ... If the slider is on a tripod, this problem does not occur, but if it is placed on a table, it is unusable! Oh, so many reviews here, and no one has noticed ?

[@learnenglishaudiobook5052]

this is the worst experience i've ever had.they can't help you.they make broken alts in a short time and they won't help. they waste your money

[@ZEAPONTech]

why you keep leaving comment everywhere but don't reply ?