Scottie Pippen & Isiah Thomas HATING and SPITTING on Each others...

Various interviews.

[@eastbee1034]

Scottie voice sounds like if trees could talk!!

[@AS-js7kb]

😂

[@invisiblesun6595]

You should tweet him and ask him to say "I Am Groot"

[@jamelsalter6104]

Kind of interesting seeing Pip defending Jordan in these clips when he’s dumping all over him now.

[@phade2blaq]

When Pippen viewed the last dance doc he was salty at how Jordan was portrayed as winning those titles by himself and Pippen knows that he played a vital role in helping the Bulls win but everybody wants to give all credit to Jordan.

[@renatolocsin2741]

@@phade2blaq just keep in mind that Pip got deeper into the playoffs playing w/o MJ than MJ ever did playing w/o Pip...just stating a fact.

[@chrisdell5679]

@@renatolocsin2741 Well...yeah. He had Kukoc, Armstrong, Horace, Paxson, Phil Jackson and a whole culture that was predicated on standards. Jordan had drug addicts, Kevin Loughery, Stan Albeck AND the Celtics in the first round. The Bulls that one year had an aging Cavaliers. The next year...? 33-31 till Jordan came back, moving them to 47-35.

[@TheSands83]

Now Isaiah is praising Scottie 😂 Thomas is a snake

[@chrisdell5679]

@@TheSands83 Isiah would probably make love to the Varsity coach that kept MJ on JV.

[@1saac2k]

T-Mac reaction😂😂😂😂😂

[@phade2blaq]

TMac was doing all he could to keep from laughing LOL

[@illc8258]

That was obviousely before Scottie starts bashing MJ in his turn !

[@dariusbrown8210]

I'm thinking same thing.... Scottie always taking up for MJ for years and now he doesn't like Jordan 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Breakbeats92.5]

If these two saw each other at a cocktail party today, I'd back away if I were near them.

[@TL2354]

Isiah would destroy Pippen

[@phade2blaq]

LOL Isiah wasn't no punk and he'd fight you if he had to. He always bumped heads with former Indiana coach Bobby Knight and Knight said Isiah always reacted as if he wanted to fight when Knight would get on him about something and Isiah said I did because where I'm from when you get in somebody's face that means you wanna do something LOL.

[@detrickmeadows]

Pippen would kick the dog shit out of that man.

[@invisiblesun6595]

@@phade2blaq Exactly. Isiah was nobody's fool. His intensity took over games. He was the scariest Piston in that era (well, aside from Rick Mahorn😂)

[@beegaming8919]

chicago, here. don't be hating on the Pistons. the bulls wouldn't be as tough without them.

[@whiteg53]

Agreed

[@anthonymajor9410]

F*ck The Pistons!

[@phade2blaq]

Isiah could flat out ball and nobody can take that from him period.

[@DCdc-rn8sz]

that is why the 80s 90s is the best era of basketball..period

[@kingoffyou3026]

Well... It also proves how stupidddd Americans are also.... It's no purpose for hall of fame "basketball" players having fights about who is what

[@itzsmejw]

Agreed 100 percent.

[@phade2blaq]

It was but then like they have done currently, the NBA changed the rules for Jordan because they wanted to market the dunk much the way they're now marketing the 3pt shot so they laxed the rule to give offensive players an edge.

[@lifeallah8005]

@@phade2blaq the dunk? Lmfao then they changed the game for Dr J .. Dominique n many more

[@phade2blaq]

@@lifeallah8005 No no because Dr J got hammered a lot when he joined the NBA. Keep in mind Doc joined the NBA in 1976 and the game was rough and hard fouls were the norm when you went to the paint but as I said the NBA wanted Jordan as the poster boy of the league so they cracked down on rough play so that Jordan could dunk without fear of being hurt. Now the NBA is featuring and marketing the 3pt shot and they changed the rules to make it appealing. Everybody can't shoot like Steph Curry but that doesn't stop guys from jacking up 3s from everywhere.

[@zeriousmeadows2017]

They keep talking about Isaiah Thomas killed his chances of joining the dream team but they never said how did he kill his chances if killing his chances was not shaking the Chicago bulls hands then that's weak as hell because look with bird in the Celtics did when they beat the Pistons they didn't shake their hand either but nobody said nothing about that

[@fineassmar]

Yup and Bird was still on the Dream Team after not shaking hands with the Pistons and walking off DURING THE GAME.

[@natsuuzamaki3871]

It’s not that simple nobody on the dream team wanted him on that team. Don’t you see how much bad blood he had between the 3 main stars on the team? Nobody likes him . He was toxic and would’ve caused animosity between the team and he would’ve broken the chemistry

[@msimelelo1000]

@@natsuuzamaki3871 toxic how?

[@slipkid1267]

@@msimelelo1000 He was the captain of the dirtiest team in the league at the time. Isiah at that moment in time had beef with Magic, he had beef with Larry, he had that incident with Karl Malone, and we all know Jordan & Pippen HATED him. So if the two captains (Magic & Larry) don’t want you AND the best player in the team says he’s not coming if you bring Isiah, sorry you have to leave him out. Petty as it may be, at that time you everything in your power to accommodate your best player to get him to go.

[@patricethomas5368]

Exactly I’m here now digging for why everybody hates Isiah Thomas

[@29larron]

TMac saw the future when Pippen was praising MJ

[@michaelmckoy1518]

Isaiah Thomas was the one who drafted TMac, which is why he was looking at Scottie sideways when he made that ridiculous statement.

[@phade2blaq]

But now Pippen trashing Jordan so what gives.

[@darrenshacknofsky8759]

Isaiah is right about Pippen. Isaiah LED the Pistons to back to back championships and almost a 3 peat: Pippen meanwhile was Robin to Jordan’s Batman. He was the second player on the team and no match winner.

[@middlfingazup2446]

Scottie Pippen was robin to batman cause that’s what they got labeled. Mj won one single important game w/out Pippen in uniform after the bulls got him. Mj who gives no credit to anyone gave him one of his mvp finals cars. Pip made the game easier for everybody on those squads and they’ll tell you and he did while Mj was worried about scoring titles and who did the scoring. When Mj retired out of nowhere a few weeks before the season they won 55 games and got robbed in the playoffs against the knicks. Pip one of the best 2 way players to ever play the game w/elite D that’s getting u 20 while fighting for shots and can create for others as well as himself. There isn’t a lot of that since the nba began. The media marketing tool has dumbed the game down to where we call players 1 way players & 2 way players as well as people really believe 1 way good/great players are better than 2 way good/great players and more valuable when that’s impossible. They have hall of fame 1 way players rated over Pippen when he’s better than any 1 way player that can ever be named from the hall of fame on down. He’d make it harder on the 1 way guys than they could ever make it on him but he gets called a Robin. Even the way Isaiah who was raw talks about him and truth be told he’s not a better basketball player than Pip. Overall game isn’t even looked at anymore. When Mj played Pip was being called the best all around player in the game including Mj himself saying it after Dream team to Phil Jackson. The way tv sports media and image creation along with marketing is a lot of people get told what they see and sometimes to uplift some players others get underrated. Pippen & Klay Thompson are at the top of that list. They call Pippen Robin but Mj had to wait on him to beat Detroit. They won 55 games without Mj. Robins can’t do that

[@darrenshacknofsky8759]

@jimmie parker Jordan, Olajuwon, Robinson, Malone, Barkley were all better than Pippen in the 90s. So definitely not top 5. In the 80s he wouldn’t have even been top 20.

[@middlfingazup2446]

@jimmie parker 🎯🎯🎯🎯 Even when Mj retired a few weeks before the season the core he was with won 55 games and people act like that means nothing. They skip that year and say what the bulls record was when Mj came back but they forget to add Horace Grant left. He underrated too. Guard multiple positions, was averaging double doubles and almost double doubles just getting 8, 9, 10 shots a game. Unless you a big it’s still hard to do but he was a non-big.

[@middlfingazup2446]

@jimmie parker Yup without Rodman it’s a wrap

[@globaloutdoorinnovations7511]

Barkley was better 90,91,92 and 93. Pippen was better than Barkley in 94,95,96,97 and I wil not count 98 due to the injury. Cieling wise Barkley was a tad better but that’s because most of you fools value point and nothing else. As good of a scorer as Barkley was Pippen’s defense was light years over Barkley and Pippens points would be historicly 7-8 ppg less than Barkley in the glory years. Sorry I’ll take Pip because of EVERYTHING Pip does that Barkley can’t.

[@TheSands83]

The bad boys were far from old in 1991😂 Stephen a smith lack of basketball knowledge stuns me sometimes

[@AnthonyWilliams-xz4di]

Why wasn't they

[@TheSands83]

@@AnthonyWilliams-xz4di because they weren’t old😂 Thomas was 29. Dumars 27. Rodman 29 laimbeer 33 and aguirre 31. There starting lineup…there avg age of the starting 5 was under 30..bulls starting 5 avg age was 28.. the pistons avg age of starting 5 was 29.8…. That’s far from and old team😂

[@AnthonyWilliams-xz4di]

@@TheSands83 they were old In terms of basketball

[@TheSands83]

@@AnthonyWilliams-xz4di 😂 no they weren’t..29 isn’t old for a basketball player dummy it’s the absolute prime… so to you the bulls were old? 😂

[@mexia23]

and now Pippen taking shots at Jordan cause he in his feelings about Last Dance

[@NBADUNKMAN]

It's just sad that such a great player became so delusional. First comparing himself to Thomas, then MJ. You were a great and underrated player, but for real, go to the park, Scottie.

[@TL2354]

Pippen isn’t great

[@kingoffyou3026]

@@TL2354 pippen was considered better than Jordan . Mike just ain't miss

[@itzsmejw]

Lie Pippen is Great. He was a Co Captain 👨‍✈️!

[@phade2blaq]

Some players thrive in systems and some thrive with other players so in Scottie's case the focus of the defense was always on Jordan so that freed Scottie up but when he went to Houston and Portland, he was not the same player then he started calling Barkley fat etc etc because he was not the player he thought he was.

[@rayhall8469]

OUTSIDE OF MAGIC JOHNSON, ISAIAH THOMAS WAS THE BEST POINT GUARD IN THE NBA

[@phade2blaq]

No PG Isiah's size (5'11") could take over a game on both ends of the court the way he did. He scored 25pts in he 3rd vs LA in the '88 Finals playing on one leg because he had sprained his ankle in the first half which Detroit was cheated out of because they had LA beat and LA knows that but they called a ticky tack foul on Laimbeer putting Karren at the FT and LA won/

[@phade2blaq]

Bar none and in some ways he was better than Magic and Isiah had a high basketball IQ and not many people give him credit for that.

[@phade2blaq]

No doubt and keep in mind Isiah is all of 5'11" and still he gave people the business. Check out the videos of Jordan guarding him and Isiah is torching Jordan and I think that may part of the reason why Jordan dislikes Isiah because not many people got the best of Jordan but Isiah did every time they played because John Paxson, Steve Kerr, BJ Armstrong and Craig Hodges could not guard Isiah so Jordan would have to guard him.

[@foreverblessed9240]

It's always room for Isiah Thomas pippen a hater now he saying lebron better than mike even said he was at on point smh pippen kids step daddy is a Jordan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cobrakainevereverdies6940]

HERE in CHICAGO - We wouldn't have picked Isaiah either. See, it's SIMPLE. The guy talks too too too much trash and has an extremely "BAD REPUTATION". Name me someone on the Dream Team with even a 50% the reputation like Zeke's, even if we brought up Barkley up in the conversation ?????????? As talented as Isaiah Thomas was at the time and always being a LEGEND and YET still getting knocked off; from nearly EVERY NBA job he had, after his playing career - He's simply a "black eye to the NBA". In 2020 with him visiting Chicago, since this city hosted the All-Star Weekend........HE STILL TALKED TRASH. I'm like, you "really really keep it real, to the streets....don't ya" ????? Majority of Chicago hated him and his antics in 2020 just added on. IMAGINE WHAT FOREIGN FOLKS WOULD'VE SAID, IF HE "DID" GET THE JOB OVER JOHN STOCKTON ???????? (That's that guy)

[@dylanlanzuela7305]

"I wouldn't even say that they were old. They were....DEFEATED." Man, Morgan Freeman is cold.

[@phade2blaq]

Detroit's time run out plus Isiah had hurt his wrist on his shooting hand and he was done after that then he tore his Achilles about a year or so later and he retired at age 32.

[@phade2blaq]

The Bulls did defeat the Pistons but remember after that 1990 title, Isiah had to have surgery on his shooting wrist and he was done by then plus they had lost Mahorn to the supplemental draft so the team wasn't the same but people do not realize that the Pistons almost had a three peat had it not been for the ticky tack foul called on Laimbeer against Kareem in '88 because the Pistons had LA beat until that happened. So the Pistons would have won it in '88, '89 and '90.

[@dylanlanzuela7305]

@@phade2blaq dude, Bulls lost in game 7 because of Pippen MIGRAINE, so don't use that Isiah had surgery excuse. Pistons were DEFEATED by the Bulls when Zeke was only 29.

[@williepickett8241]

a lie Isaiah was born in 61 mj was born in 63 Isaiah choose to leave early he knew he was defeated by the Chicago bulls

[@michael_carmichael]

​@@phade2blaqDude, gtfo with Isiah's wrist injury. He had the same FG%, assist and turnovers. And Mahorn wasn't even there in 1990

[@washredskin887]

Stockton was no doubt a great player but he was not as good as IT.

[@Renegade-jk4ux]

Isiah was better at scoring. Stockton was an elite assist man, defender, and excellent free throw shooter, and three point shooter.

[@Dubblesteel]

Pippin needs to stop with all that lying, Isiah was better than Stockton, all day.

[@theairportchauffeur7142]

Better? No Doubt. You Gotta Get Along With Your Team Mates.

[@rampantcolt]

How? Stockton is the all time steals and assists leader by A LOOOOONG shot. Stockton is better all day.

[@robertfrazier1377]

@@rampantcolt Remember Stockton played more yrs than both Magic and Isiah and never lead his team to an NBA Title.

[@derek5499]

I've watched them both play. Stockton was a great player don't get me wrong but I would take Thomas over him and John Stockton was one of the best point guards ever. He didn't have a flashy game and he wasn't as athletic as Isiah but he was a great true point guard. With that said I think Thomas was better but they were both unbelievably great

[@rampantcolt]

@@robertfrazier1377 just because he didn’t win it doesn’t mean he wasn’t better. You can’t be the steals and assist leader and not be the best pg. and he didn’t play with a cast of great players like Thomas and magic.

[@scrubled6854]

That clip from isiah cut to pippen on first take just waiting for his response was a little funny & a little awkward it was quiet as hell in there for a second.

[@jayyarbrough9902]

Dream Team = Mean Girls

[@ExodusPessoa]

lol

[@elviracatherinetalaoc2070]

I like it when Zeke's voice sounded like Mike Tyson.

[@herrickkang2229]

Isiah Thomas is among the best super star players

[@roneldeleon8704]

No. Nevah .... Steph is greater over Isiah. AI is better than Isiah. Russell is better than Isiah. CP3 is better than Isiah

[@mr.z9309]

remember, jordan got isiahs thomas nephew to wear his jerseys. thats why isiah mad mad

[@arthurmorgan9944]

@@roneldeleon8704 Iverson, Cp3, Westbrook, all 0 ring. Isiah Thomas 2 rings

[@123slasher.16]

@@roneldeleon8704 did Steph lead his high school team to a state title game? No, Isiah did! Did Steph lead his team to a NCAA title? Isiah did, in less college time. Did Steph lead the USA to a gold medal in college? No, Isiah did before he even played his first college game. Isiah Thomas was a superstar at every level, including the greatest McDonald's All American team ever (1979).

[@123slasher.16]

@@arthurmorgan9944 add a NCAA title to that as well and MOP and MVP Awards for those titles PLUS the MVP of the 1979 gold medal game in the Pan AM Games.

[@frandavilacardenes]

Scotty Pippen vs Isiah Thomas? C'mon Scottie... go to the park.

[@santosjones6186]

Isiah should have been on the dream team period!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@duftyboxing]

🎯

[@nathanlawson313]

Isiah had just won back-to-back championships add was cheated out of a 3rd straight from refs worst calls in history. His coach was picked to coach the Dream Team. ...It was obvious he was supposed to be there

[@HajimeNoJMo]

@@nathanlawson313 Indeed, I am inclined to agree, but I wonder how it would’ve worked out since a majority of the team hated him (and still hate him)

[@roneldeleon8704]

No.he should not be on that Dream Team.. He doesn't belong there. He is not a star. He is a bully and he is not qualified..

[@denmarkreid3771]

Period!!

[@Headahhpodcast]

To say the pistons were old when the bulls could beat them is crazy cause they were barely 3 years older than the bulls 😂🤌🏽

[@avace917]

Didn't the Pistons beat Chicago the year before Chicago beat them?

[@mariesettles4734]

Scottie go to the park.😂😂😂

[@phade2blaq]

LOL

[@juandenny3198]

Thomas was better then Stockton.

[@scottwingate3712]

Scottie Pippen shouldn't have been on that team nor stockton

[@aaronyarb4988]

Scottie who???? Pip what??? BAD BOYS 4 LIFE!!!! Oh, by the way, the guy at the end agreeing with Pippin gets no love!!! #BLOCKING!!!

[@TL2354]

Pippen

[@joseyeastwood]

It doesn't matter what Isiah says about MJ it will never make up for the fact he wasn't on the Dream Team he will never get over that sh!t.

[@phade2blaq]

Because people know he deserved to be on that team based on merit. He had won 2 titles and he was an 11 time all star so he deserved to be there.

[@rcdenson1]

Zeke should have been on that team and that's the "real", but equally and enough can't be said about it ( because Zeke is still in denial) he burned that bridge, he made that bed, and he had to sleep in it. He took being "Bad Boys" too far and it effected his relationships around the league with the elites. I wish it had been different for him and for MJ ( MJ needs to let it go too, if he's truly the "Better Man" and super competitive, let that crap go and stop pouting and complaining about Zeke, like a little kid)? I can't stand seeing two Brothers, the tops at their positions, at each other's throat still, after all these years... add Scotty (the proto type, the original... Point Forward) to that list too! Brothers got to stick together or divided "we fall". Like Rodney King pleaded... Can't we all just get along? 🙏😁

[@depannist]

@@rcdenson1 where is Jordan complaining about Zeke? In the Last Dance, he said he Zeke “was” an ahole for doing what he did. Where today is Jordan saying anything about Zeke?

[@rcdenson1]

@@depannist I don't know what MJ is saying about Zeke today but I doubt if it's anything different than what he just said a couple of years ago in "The Last Dance" series. The blood is pretty bad between them two and neither really seems to want to let it go, especially MJ who went straight to Vulgar descriptions when describing Zeke ( and tells you all you need to know. Zeke has his sly slick little ways of putting down MJ and the Bulls, but I've never heard him hurl insulting vulgar words describing Mike. I don't think those guys will ever get past that era of the late 80s and early 90s. When all this bad blood was created?

[@db-hj9cu]

It's funny after the last dance pippen said he'd pick LeBron over Jordan 🤣🤣. That's why everyone shouldn't be an analyst because their bias guides their opinions

[@middlfingazup2446]

Pippen said that way before the Last Dance but had to backtrack his comment cause of the public and of course MJ. I’m not saying he didn’t say more after the last dance but years ago he said that

[@phade2blaq]

He did say that but he's on a video bashing Isiah for saying it. Pippen has no morals and that's why the Bulls cheated him out of that money because he signed a bad contract because he's stupid and now Jordan's oldest son Marcus is dating Pippen's ex wife Larsa. I know that has to sting for Pippen LOL

[@db-hj9cu]

@@phade2blaq yeah pippen definitely not the sharpest tool lol

[@amihogatai8432]

people hate hard. scottie is the same person who has been saying stuff about michael his running mate, right? nuff said.

[@ryanbaliwag2533]

The question who would you pick if you build a team, MJ or LBJ ???

[@parmanduke]

IT would've been vinegar in a bowl of candy for the Dream Team.

[@Proudathiest1]

Do people honestly think L James is anywhere as good as Jordan? I mean I’ll be honest I stopped watching basketball when M.j. Retired I figured what’s the point now. Magic, Larry and Jordan are all gone . But I’ve watched a good deal of his best plays and what not . I mean he’s pretty good and all but not on same level as Michael

[@winstonperra8070]

Well LeBron is so great u even mention his name here.

[@ricardosanders-nm7lj]

yes he is a all around complete player

[@Proudathiest1]

@@winstonperra8070 he’s pretty good no doubt about it . But we are talking about two completely different categories. One is pretty good and the other being Michael is the breasted player that ever lived

[@hasanmustafaa7735]

@@Proudathiest1 Man quit smoking or drinking or whatever you are doing. You don't AVERAGE 26 POINTS PER GAME FOR 20 YEARS and not be GREAT. Jordan was spent after 13years of gunning. You need to stop watching basketball again if you can't see that,!!!!

[@jr6178]

@@hasanmustafaa7735 Spent? LeBron is still chasing MJ ghost and falling short

[@paulwilborn6863]

It's the truth Detroit Michigan is my home town

[@tomfilus8043]

IT would torch Stockton, Magic, and Jordan in his prime. Larry Bird was not a guard. His Celtics teams were better than the Pistons until the Pistons matured and the Celts got old. Thomas's Pistons were better than the Bulls until they got old and the Bulls matured. Take a look at the timeline and the league expanded. That meant you could win titles with 3 guys instead of 6. With the expansion, the NBA had to take international players or downgrade to the weak CBA players. The Lakers didnt have the competition that the East had. Philly, Boston, Detroit, Chicago and the Bucks.

[@whiteg53]

I don’t agree Zeke was an American citizen not Ewing 😆😆😆

[@thurmondanthony9304]

T Mac tho 🤣

[@albertreuscastello1849]

Jordan & Pippen vs Thomas & Laimbeer. Real Rivalry

[@phade2blaq]

Oddly the only people who have been asked about how they felt about Isiah who played on the DT were Pippen and Jordan. No one lese on that has ever said publicly what they thought.

[@renatolocsin2741]

MJ cowardly lied when he was first asked about if he had anything to do on IT's exclusion from the DT. He was NOT man enough to admit what he really said on a phone conversation when asked how he felt about IT being on the DT

[@AngryOldHoops]

Wrong. Don't say things you don't know about. They were all asked, only some of them chose to speak about it. Among the people you left off the list was Magic Johnson, who also said Isiah would have hurt the team chemistry.

[@P3ac3806]

You can't deny facts!!

[@torri10101]

80s and 90s are the best era in human history... Period👽👽

[@phade2blaq]

Yes they were! People don't know but prior to Magic and Bird coming along, the NBA was on its way out because teams were becoming "Too Black" in the eyes of the White fan base and people had actually started cancelling their season tickets then Dr J showed up in 1976 and in 1979 Bird and Magic showed up and then of course there was those epic battles between the Lakers and Celtics with Philly crashing the party a time or two.

[@renatolocsin2741]

@@phade2blaq i knew all that & I also know the damn truth of why MJ retired in 1993. MJ was just so very lucky that there was NO social media during the 90s. All hell broke lose during the investigation of MJ's dads murder, what they discovered had to be concealed, & Nike who was MJs major sponsor then, literally spent MILLIONS covering up for MJs vices etc....... The NBA together w/ Nike joined forces to conceal all these (the truth) because the NBA could NOT afford to absorb a scandal that deeply involved MJ (who was the face of the league then). This is why MJ literally owes his life to Nike etc.....

[@renatolocsin2741]

broke loose

[@elroz1675]

of the big ones from that era, there was a Bird-Magic rivalry and all the rest (Celtics-Lakers and their hall of fame lineups) and there was a Pistons-Bulls. Both were very competitive...but the latter one was toxic and remains toxic. Is that bad? Do we have such emotions and controversy with current rivalries? No. Those 1984-1991 rivalries STILL get coverage and put asses into seats. Thank you Sixers, Celtics, Lakers, Pistons, and Bulls!

[@gilbertreyes6750]

Isiah will put the dream team in trouble Half or the team do not want him Period.

[@eastbee1034]

Detroit never swept chicago but the bulls swept the pistons in the playoffs!! After 1991 the Pistons NEVER got out of the first round so of course Jordan never had the chance to beat the shet outta Zeke again once Jordan got to his peak powers!!

[@kevinc764]

Zeke and Magic were the best point guards at that time. It's a damn shame that Zeke wasn't on that team.

[@itzsmejw]

Agreed

[@phade2blaq]

Bar none and keep in mind Isiah is all of 5'10"/5'11" at best and still nobody could stop him plus Isiah had mad handles and was doing crossovers before anyone knew what that was because he attended the camps of harlem Globetrotters greats Curly Neal and Marcus Haynes and they taught him how to dribble when he was like 10, 11, 12 years old.

[@larrysmac]

How true-Scottie Pippen couldn't carry Zeke's jock.

[@vincesavage3086]

Put up head to head numbers and get back to me 🤣🤣

[@larrysmac]

@@vincesavage3086 Please, don't flatter yourself, or hold your breath.

[@mr.z9309]

@@larrysmac so with that statement, scottie does have the better numbers. case close there.

[@jeremyvanbriesies1940]

Pippen is a 2face too ...He lately turned against Michael himself ...🤣🤣🤣

[@shawngaither-opd-671]

Pippen can't hold Zeke's jockstrap. Zeke is an ALLTIME legend. Funny how people forget.

[@kmslates1973]

Lets see how the pistons do in this era, the starting line up be fouled out in the first quarter:P

[@TL2354]

They’d make these vagina players cry

[@johngrygiel1494]

Stockton over Isiah ? Please . And I loved the Jazz ….

[@Panafrocanam2]

You'd be surprised how many make that silly argument esp from a guy with no rings. BUT people pick and choose when it suits them

[@nathanlawson313]

I saw Isiah and Stockton live. It isn't close. Isiah had a gear Stockton never had (see playoffs 16pts in 90sec). Blows my mind when people have Stockton #2 PG all time. Like, he was never top 5 player in any single season. How does he jump to top 5 PG all time? Stockton was not that guy. In 1,686 games his career high was 34 puts. He scored 30+ in 11 games. Total. He ran Utah's system well, and played forever. I have him in 15-20 range all time. Isiah was that guy - High score of 52pts. He beat Magic, Bird, AND Jordan.. Twice. For 2 championships.

[@Panafrocanam2]

@@nathanlawson313 we know why... Don't get me wrong he's a top 10 pg I believe but he's Not better then Isaiah

[@phade2blaq]

Stockton was a great PG but he ain't Isiah. Isiah was doing cross-overs before anyone knew what that was because he had learned dribbling from Harlem Globetrotters greats Marcus Haynes and Curly Neal as a kid growing up in Chicago.

[@phade2blaq]

LOL Stockton did not have the physical tools Isiah had. Isiah could and did takeover games and Magic has said that many times in that Isiah was the only PG from that era who could take over games on both ends of he court and he did. Stockton couldn't do that but usually the people who say Stockton was better are usually white much the way people claim Bird was better than Magic. Bird was a better shooter than Magic bar far but after that, they're qual in that they both could take over games.

[@nickbradfordsr80]

Zeke got left off bad and bougie

[@ForzaMilan-di2zd]

My Pistons paved the way for the Bulls to dominate. Bulls had no competition in the 90's. They had the Knicks really. We cleared the way for them taking out Magic & Bird

[@mr.z9309]

so you're saying the pistons were chicago bulls doormat? i agree.

[@eddiewilson3724]

92 cavaliers were really good, 93 knicks, 96 magic, and 98 pacers, plus the 97 knicks were legit, people forget the series were the knicks players got suspended in the fight in the ecsf vs the heat, that knicks team was loaded and would have gave the bulls problems, yall trippin if you think the bulls had a cakewalk to get to the finals in those years

[@derek5499]

@@eddiewilson3724 all the teams you mentioned would have gave most of today's playoff/finals teams a challenge. I think some of yesterday's Eastern conference playoff teams would have won in today's game. I'm sure I'm going to be called an old head and I'm being nostalgic but I'm being honest. I have no reason to lie because I really don't care. It was just a different game and era I guess

[@kingoffyou3026]

@@eddiewilson3724 it was catered for Chicago... Nobody on the Knicks could dunk, except John... Both Jason Williams and the other Williams dude for the bulls bench was dunking all over the Knicks.. also Horace pippen Jordan Myers... Come on.. that's 8 players all above the rim.. the hardcore Knicks got 1 , 6'2"... Player

[@casiemny1219]

@@kingoffyou3026 y’all just be saying anything online lol

[@tw69hands2]

Scottie Pippen doesn't make any sense. Isiah Thomas, a 2 time NBA champion and multiple year All Star and league MVP, wasn't needed? John Stockton never won any championships, Christian Laettner never did nor did he do anything as an NBA pro.The Dream Team didn't need those two. Isiah is better than both of those players and was better than Pippen too. Pippen was best known as Jordan's valet and didn't do anything after the Bulls team was broken up.

[@prestonthomas746]

Isaiah Should have been on the Dream Team before Scottie!!! Scottie was only Great when his Daddy Jordan was on the Court! And Bottom line is The Pistons Ow n.v ed the Bulls for a way bigger part of t hff at Rivalry!! The only Reason they finally beat Detroit is they became Too old!!

[@derekhallett8756]

Isiah should have been there regardless. Scottie they could have done without.

[@CroPETROforeverNBA]

Im no fan of Scottie, but Isiah made out of himself the DEVIL himself in the eyes of his opponents, to everyone except Magic back then, but even Magic turned his back to him later on. It's one thing to be tough (like Knicks durin 90's) but it's totally another thing to BEAT UP SOMEONE, say awful things about someone (like Rodman & Isiah said in 1987 finals that Bird is a star only cause he is white), then refusing to shake Bulls hands, going out before the end of the game, I am sorry, but it's one thing to be tough and it's another to be GARBAGE, and Isiah is a Garbage as a person, I respect his game etc... but that guy is a garbage, and 99% of Dream team would agree, no one wanted to play with him, NO ONE, and it would destroy the chemistry of that team.

[@derekhallett8756]

@@CroPETROforeverNBA I agree bro. He was not the beloved. But no doubt more accomplished at that time than Scottie Pippen. When the excuse from Pippen was that they already had Point Guards, the only Point Guard at that time more accomplished than Isiah was Magic. Isiah should have been there over John Stockton, And many others who never won anything.

[@derekhallett8756]

@@CroPETROforeverNBA I don't like Pippen either😂. He will always be in Jordan's shadow in my opinion.

[@CroPETROforeverNBA]

@@derekhallett8756 Look, Im no fan of Scottie, but it's no argument: Isiah or Scottie because they played different positions, so Scottie wasnt in his way considerin that, you can make argument Stockton or Isiah? Ok, I would pick Isiah, but you have to admit Stockton was... a ... God... da.n legend.

[@derekhallett8756]

@@CroPETROforeverNBA Yeah this is no argument whatsoever. Just making the point that at that time Isiah was more accomplished than most of the guys chosen to the dream team. Including Stockton was my point.

[@stevehorton7524]

We heard Isiah say I DONT MIND IF M.J said he didn't want me on the team , NOW he's still accusing M.J of keeping him off the team ????? Make your mind up , you said you'd be good hearing that MJ didn't want you !!!!!

[@ultronsigma2419]

Speaking of being snubbed. Shaq should’ve been on that Dream Team instead of Christian Laettner.

[@cbeyond1957]

They won without him. That's the point.

[@ronaldbryant7710]

I totally agree with Scottie and everyone know Isaiah is jealous of MJ, although Isaiah was great enough to be on the Olympic team the way his Detroit team played which was football. The Pistons during Isaiah tenure was playing to hurt guys which was and will never be what basketball was meant to be. I would like to say Isaiah behind Magic Johnson would be my second greatest point guard but the was his team played and they attitude caused him a lot and at some point he needs to understand and admit what everyone else understands.

[@vernlloyd772]

The Pistons weren't the only team that played like that people were just mad when they started doing it and beating their favorite teams. Karl Malone busted Isaiah head open. Kevin McHale tried to fuck Kurt Rambis up. Robert Parish punched all on Bill Lambeer that's the way the game was played but they just didn't like that the Pistons did it and beat their favorite teams

[@bobbyjohnson9409]

Why was it football? Cause Michael couldn’t take it? If you knew what you were talking about, you’d know the Celtics and lakers of the 80s could get down and play like Detroit did. And your boy Michael couldn’t succeed in that era

[@bobbyjohnson9409]

@@vernlloyd772exactly. I’m a lakers fan and agree with u.

[@ronniemackie4741]

Scottie come on Thomas was a bad dude you can't take this away from this guy

[@kingpete3160]

Yeah but they got swept and struggled to beat the bulls in 2 game 7s series to win they took Scottie out of the game by getting in his head and it had work they couldn’t stop mj so they went to the bulls next best player and that was Scottie

[@brianfergus839]

1:30 say WHAT??

[@jerrybarnes1698]

Scottie Pippen is one guy who's totally honest about how he feels about IT. And he should feel that way because IT is a phony and they tried to end his career with football style physicality.

[@basel7441]

Scottie is quite the hypocrite now.

[@eastbee1034]

When Isiah wants to diminish Michael's legacy, Isiah says how great scottie was!! But you often hear Zeke also say scottie was not a great player!! Zeke talks out of both sides of his mouth!!

[@hasanmustafaa7735]

Stop lying, show us a clip or quote where Isaiah said Pippen wasn't s great player!!!!! Pippen should have been left off the Dream Team. Zeke was an exciting player. Stockton, Malone, Pippen , Mullins were all BORING PLAYERS. Put ISAIAH and Dominique Wilkins on there and The Dream Team still wins handily, but they would have put on a much better SHOW.

[@Realdealrob]

Bulls wasn’t anything without Jordan. Pippen was just his backup bf

[@eastbee1034]

@@Realdealrob FACTS!!

[@eastbee1034]

@@Realdealrob NO teams feared Pippen!! They slapped Pippen around like a lil betch!! Oakley, Barkley, X-man, Ewing, Rodman, Lambeer, and more would intimidate Pippen!!

[@c.p.h.9264]

BAAAAAAAAAAAD BOYS! ☝🏾

[@louisgutierrez8048]

if Isaiah says scottie is nobody then what makes him think scottie voice played a role in keeping him out..I would look at urself for nor being chosen

[@2amaysn]

Pippen has done a total 180.

[@terencejones8422]

Scottie was scared as hell playing the Bad Boys...😅😅 Some of us was there...and Isiah always talked highly of MJ two faceted ass

[@phade2blaq]

Most teams were but if you go back and look at the Celtics of that era, the Lakers etc they all played Bad Boy basketball but when the Bad Boys did, they were thugs and hoodlums because the NBA was upset that Detroit crashed the LA-Boston party and that was never suppose to happen.

[@mardukmd6729]

0:16 reggie miller "BUT..?"

[@LuisHernandez-so8ll]

Stockton has the all time assist . Thomas has dumars rodman and stars.

[@winstonperra8070]

Try watching Stockton highlights.

[@kmslates1973]

he also had malone duh

[@Panafrocanam2]

Poor argument Luis, Malone was the star on that team and much better then those u mentioned. U clearly know nothing abt basketball if u think those folks were better then Malone

[@saucy840]

They were beating you guys, Scottie > We were young 💀💀💀💀

[@phade2blaq]

Isiah and the Pistons beat LA and the Celtics when LA had Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Coop, and Byron Scott. They then beat Boston with McHale, Parish, Bird and DJ and they beat the Bulls with Scottie and Jordan so Isiah beat all 3 and none of them can say that because because LA lost to Chicago in '91 and Boston was done after 1987/1988.

[@depannist]

@@phade2blaq the Pistons beat the Lakers with Magic missing half the series.

[@invisiblesun6595]

Were the Pistons a better team? Athletically, no (aside from Rodman). Mentally, from 85-90 I would say yes. MJ himself had said much later that as a rookie his 84-85 team physically were as good as any of his championship teams. Mentally however, they weren't even close. I mean let's face it, Orlando Woolridge should have been the missing link between Wilt Chamberlain and Shaquille O'Neill. Instead I give that one entirely to Hakeem Olajuwon.

[@ogarcia9745]

Yeah they had good point guards but explain to me Christian Laettner on what was he great at college basketball? LMAO who was he supposed to Doctor Who? 😅

[@kmslates1973]

thats a hard one z or stockton really

[@MrDreFunk]

Zeke shudda been on that Tim over Chris Mullins, furthermore Shaq shudda been there over Christian Laetner! I’ll drop my own mic

[@gideonlau2707]

Prime Bulls V Prime Pistons 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bulls be sweeping them bums

[@JosephAdams-ly1lx]

That BS next to Magic is Zeke who else MJ said l don't want to play with him and it was over period

[@1stshepherd]

MJ said that Isaiah is the 2nd best behind Magic. Not showing respect to MJ and the Bulls by not shaking hands kept him off the Dream Team. isaiah chose NOT to shake hands, MJ chose NOT to have isaiah on the team. Petty or not they both made choices. Only isaiah is suffering from the choice. As he said, Dream Team is the only thing missing from his resume'

[@TL2354]

Isiah

[@vernlloyd772]

And the Celtics didn't shake the Pistons hands the year before but they don't talk about that so Bird shouldn't have played either

[@1stshepherd]

@Vern Lloyd MJ was dealing with his circumstance with Thomas. isaiah didn't shake MJ & Bulls hands. Dumars shook his hand and said it was only right because after every loss MJ shook their hands

[@jr6178]

@@vernlloyd772 the Celtics had to leave the floor to different situations teams and rivalries. The Pistons purposely walked past the Bulls bench with time left. That sticks in people's head

[@rickmemmer5625]

@@vernlloyd772 you’re misinformed. The Celtics situation was over security concerns -look it up.

[@Hippoking32]

Keep in mind that John Stocktons prime and hayday were the years jordan and pippen were in their prime with the bulls. No one thinks that isiah or magics teams could touch the 90s bull's during their run. Why would the jazz not beating Chicago(the team most of us consider to be the Goat team) in the finals be the difference between isiah being better than Stockton?

[@tiyukitv6508]

The DreamTeam never needed isiah in the line up. They can kick Stockton out easily for him, that is very much true. but the question is... this is a couple of weeks long event. who want to be with isiah for more that an hour? 🤭✌️

[@TL2354]

I do. He won

[@ismaelcruz2148]

Now pippin says that Jordan was horrible

[@miguelcarrasco9042]

Isiah was way better than John Stockton. Please no comparison.

[@amihogatai8432]

listen to isiah on the "pivot" podcast. maybe you might understand the pettiness of some of these players.

[@ProfessorofTruth]

At least Zeke's not wearing a weird, out of generation hairstyle.

[@mauricemoton1069]

Some people still wear out of generation hairstyles. What’s your point?

[@ProfessorofTruth]

@@mauricemoton1069 Maybe they shouldn't.

[@mauricemoton1069]

@@ProfessorofTruth Maybe they should. 👍✌️

[@Paul-uo1vw]

Even Grant Hill used to destroy Scottie.

[@darrenhiga5254]

After Jordan's son hooked up with pippens ex and scottie had a book.. he became isaiah.

[@big-l5771]

The dream team didn't ban Ishsa Thomas Thomas banned himself. He had no friends

[@phade2blaq]

That's not true! Isiah was a team guy and stayed locked in with the Pistons. Now know this Laimbeer a White guy from an upper middle class home in the suburbs of Chicago whose dad was a company President but he was labeled a "thug" by the press and I'll give you one guess as to why he was. Because he was cool with Dumars, Vinnie Johnson, Isiah, Mahorn, Rodman, Dantley, Mark Aguirre etc all Black dudes. To this day Laimbeer has remained close friends with these dudes. I'd bet that the Celtics, Lakers and Bulls players from that era do not stay connected. I'd bet that they do not. I've heard Byron Scoot say that he hardly ever sees magic or Kareem or Michael Cooper so that tells you right there that these guys weren't close outside of playing together.

[@IronMan_thno]

This explains why the only time pippen chooses Jordan over LeBron, is because Isiah chose LeBron. Pippen has changed his mind too much and out of spite chose Jordan. Those guys hated Isiah for doing what they did, and beating them.

[@robertmontague2225]

Pip has changed his tune on MJ since this was shot,he hates him now

[@PipoCollins]

Funny enough I do not think Pistons or Bulls could have won without this two guys in their roster, I liked to know if anybody fought for Isiah Thomas to be in the dream team??? not saying anything does not mean you wanted him there.

[@JosephThomas-gi8ow]

No he isn’t…

[@JK-br1mu]

That's a total myth and weak excuse that Stephen A uses for why the Pistons got beat by the Bulls at 2:54........the 1991 Pistons weren't old, they were in the middle of their primes. Isiah barely turned 30 at the end of the season, Joe Dumars was 28, Rodman turned 30 that May, Salley was 27......Mark Aguirre was 32, Laimbeer was older at 34............Michael Jordan won 4 of his 6 rings when he was older than Zeke was in 1991.

[@nsp74]

this hatred for each other, makes these supposedly respectable sports heoes,unrespectables

[@michaelbirmingham4216]

Why still hate I like both players think there both great players

[@cameronhirtle7316]

Pip made a great point though. By 92, Stockton was becoming a fantastic PG and Magic is Magic, so there probably wasn't much room for Thomas. The walkout didn't help that, plus didn't he injure himself at the end of the 91 season?

[@fieldofdreams1986]

Zeke was better than Stockton......He shouldve been on the Dream Team.

[@raulrolon6526]

Pippen would of dunked the ball on Isaiah Thomas with Isaiah still holding on to the ball

[@josephadams1253]

Zeke hating on MJ and MJ hating on Zeke both got issues

[@phade2blaq]

But the thing is when Jordan came to Chicago, Isiah reached out to him and helped him get settled in and showed him around the city. Isiah's sister and Jordan's brother Larry used to hang out as friends when Larry came to Chicago to visit Jordan and get this, Isiah's nephew used to live with Jordan during the summer because Jordan was his fav team and Jordan was his fav player so how did it go from that to what it is now. That all started when Detroit showed up and began winning titles and Jordan became salty about it.

[@sabeto5527]

Ngl, I feel bad for Isaiah Thomas.