Gyarados Only - Pokemon Yellow - Is it... bad?

Playthrough Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle*
3. No glitches or exploits*
4. No Double-Team TM before level 100*
Other rules:
-- *Pokeballs & Pokedolls are allowed in battle
-- *The badge-boost glitch is not restricted at all
-- *Skipping the Rocket Hideout & Marowak is allowed
-- I play the game at 4x game speed (238 frames per second)
-- My Pokemon has perfect DVs
-- The Trash-Can-Puzzle is automatically solved so times are not affected by RNG
-- The bike is allowed (the bike skip is not)
-- Skipping the bike is not allowed
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
*Double-Team:
-- Almost every Pokemon can learn Double-Team through TM
-- The TM can be purchased in Celadon
-- Using it would centralize the meta
-- Every Pokemon would use it to overcome tough battles at lower levels
-- It raises evasion
-- It triggers the badge boost
-- Banning the TM allows Pokemon who learn it through level up to use it
-- I believe evasion is part of Pokemon and shouldn't be banned entirely
-- I don't want the videos to all be double-team spam though, that's not fun or entertaining
-- Only two Pokemon learn Double-Team through level up: Pikachu & Scyther
-- Minimize is the other evasion raising move, these Pokemon learn it through level up:
-- Clefairy, Clefable, Grimer, Muk, Chansey, Staryu
Yellow Version changes from Red/Blue:
1. You cannot use Dig/Escape Ropes in Bill's House or the Pokefan Club
2. You cannot talk to the trainers in Blaine's gym to battle them
3. Surge, Sabrina, and Blaine do not have Good AI
4. The Elite Four have better movesets
5. Koga, Sabrina, Blaine, and Giovanni have higher level teams
6. Blaine doesn't use Super Potions are full HP
7. The rival picks his eeveelution based on the outcome of the first two battles.
-- Lose in the lab: Vaporeon
-- Win in the lab and skip route 22: Flareon*
-- Win in both locations: Jolteon
-- *You cannot lose on route 22 because you blackout
Terms:
-- STAB
-- Same-Type-Attack-Bonus - a 1.5x damage multiplier
-- Stat Experience
-- The Gen1&2 equivalent of effort values. You can invest in all stats until they max
out at 65535
-- DVs or Determinate Values
-- The Gen1&2 equivalent of IVs (individual values), these range from 0-15
Resources:
-- Gen 1 Stat Calculator: pycosites.com/pkmn/stat_gen1.php
-- All Trainer Pokemon have IVs (DVs) of 89888 (hp, atk, def, spd, spc)
-- All Trainer Pokemon have EVs of 0
-- Gen 1 Crit Rates: www.smogon.com/rb/articles/cr...
-- Crit rate is determined by dividing base speed by 512
-- High crit rate moves determine their rate by dividing base speed by 64
-- All crits have a 1/256 to fail, even if the rate is 100%
-- Crits don't multiple damage by 2, it's a formula based on level
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[@HighPriestFuneral]

I am glad you highlighted the continual presence of the Rival's Sandslash. I think Sandslash is supposed to be his secondary Ace. A Pokemon that counters Pikachu in nearly every way, You want to use Double Team? Swift. You want to use Agility? Go ahead, enjoy the sand in your eyes for the rest of the match. Thunder Wave? Not on this Ground-type. Slash can cut through Pikachu's paper thin defenses in two or three turns and Earthquake will take out Pikachu almost immediately. If you have been relying on Pikachu (and haven't been too overleveled) that is where this comes to an end and you will be forced to adapt.

[@TheWispGuy]

Wow, I never stopped and thought of that. (probably because I used my other Pokémon to deal with Sandslash) Definitely a good Pikachu counter right there.

[@Jerdor46]

I really sat through that thinking "Surely he'll explain why he never bothered Mimicking Earthquake," and it just never happened. The man just brute forced his way with the Hypnosis strat before even trying Earthquake.

[@baldbro3693]

That was absolutely killing me

[@clawsdarklyric]

I came to say the same thing

[@acumenium8157]

A brain fart, I guess. He was using special moves for so much of the run I have to wonder if he thought he was using a physically weak Pokemon or something. Or if he misrembered Hyper Beam as having STAB (it doesn't, with how close HB came to OHKOing Magneton, Earthquake would've easily done it) or something...?

[@MelodicTurtleMetal]

Maybe he thought cloyster was too big a problem... Though keeping Thunderbolt over blizzard would solve this

[@Jerdor46]

@@MelodicTurtleMetal Maybe, but I feel like a MS of Mimic/Surf/Blizzard/Rest could've done the trick.

[@Sniwott]

I feel that an easier solution would have been to Mimic Sandslash's Earthquake, so it's more powerful than Hyper Beam and you could probably just outright oneshot Magneton

[@Zachmand3r]

I agree and I think that would have worked

[@shimauta1941]

Hyper Beam and Earthquake are both physical in this gen and Hyper Beam is 150 power even if its accuracy is lower than Earthquake's. Since they'd both be using Gyarados's attack stat instead of special stat Hyper Beam is still the better choice in terms of raw power.

[@williambrinkmeier1772]

@@shimauta1941 earthquake is 99.6% accurate and 200 base power vs magneton its better in every way .

[@Zachmand3r]

@@shimauta1941 ya but eq is super effective so it's 200 base power vs 150 with hyper beam

[@shanoc5902]

If you watch at 35:15 Hyperbeam almost KOs it as is too, so going from effective 150 power to 200 should guarantee an OHKO, and with the flying typing Sandslash can't hit an Earthquake during the mimic. Seems Scott has gotten overly reliant on hypnosis and is trying to use it where it's just not a good fit.

[@Speedrunner0218]

I can now see, based on the moveset, why Gyarados got his own video

[@motokuchoma]

Scott talking about Gyarados not getting Earthquake was extra ironic when he forgot it can mimic it off Sandslash and make the champ a cakewalk. So just dock 5-6 minutes off the time Scott took if he figured that out.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I’m going to do another run with a completely different route. There was a bigger misconception I had when filming and writing this one. Too late in production to add it in. So both Earthquake and this other improvement will get a chance to out perform this result.

[@derekjack8941]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon can’t do our boy Gyarados dirty! Lovin the content man! It’s also kinda nice to see not fully optimized runs. It feels like the community gets a chance to input solutions and you actually revisit them. I appreciate it.

[@LovevonMelenEkman]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I came back to this video and the comments because it FELT like there should be something you can do. I couldn't think of it, but it turns out you already have a plan! So excited to see what it is!

[@InfernosReaper]

@@LovevonMelenEkman that's what's great about this channel. Scott doesn't just do a bit and call it the best. He is always striving to improve and does. The guy's like a shonen protagonist, always improving

[@TheMoogleKing93]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon the year is 3022. Scott's Thoughts brain has been uploaded to an AI has just finished his 219th redo of his Gyarados solo run, updating the strategies honed in 2058. "Finally a run I can be happy with" it thinks.

[@brandontownsend3457]

Oak really is a calm cool and collected veteran of Pokemon. Just walks into the grass, casually tosses a pokeball at Gyarados, and gives it to a 10 year old to tame it.

[@patrickfrei9322]

Your runs are those with the best interface to follow all the stats and moves... huge respect for the extra effort you put in for that!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks so much Patrick! I’m glad it makes a difference!

[@stanbrule9357]

​​@@ScottsThoughtsPokemonIt makes all the difference, Jrose got me into these solo videos and no disrespect to him but being able to see all the stats in real time makes it more interesting, helps me a lot too I've been doing my own gen 1 test runs just for fun

[@Lightborn1311]

"They're pretty easy to knock out, because our box is bad and we have ice cream for Sandslash" 🤣 Also side note, anyone else picture giving Sandslash an ice cream before the fight, and it's just so happy for the ice cream it refuses to fight you?

[@rtyuik7]

Enemy SANDSLASH used LICK! (on the ice cream!) It's super delicious!

[@mistermr2147]

I would give a Sandslash Ice Cream

[@_..E]

As an engineer, I've really enjoyed watching your process on this get more and more systematized and efficient. I first found your channel a few months ago, and it quickly became my favorite of the channels of this type. Really cool stuff.

[@jameswhite2308]

Agreed! It went from both moderately amusing and moderately annoying strats-wise to just being straight impressed and only occasionally like "what the heck man, why u no teach EQ with mimic?!?!?"

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

LOL, James "what the heck man, why u no teach EQ with mimic??!?!??" made me laugh out loud. There's a follow up video. Wanted to release it the day after, but it has taken way too long...

[@bvd_vlvd]

19:25 that transition was hilarious! Imagine going outside to buy a spray for your pocket skull kraken and you appear in a 10 storey building

[@Skipatronic]

That Brock fight was very intense. Regular Onix < Water Onix

[@Aaron.Seabolt]

I’m making a prediction that Gyrados is going to be OP. But I could be wrong since this is Pokémon Yellow version.

[@dragonslayerz2220]

Slow Growth rate. It's gonna be underleveled.

[@Shenaldrac]

@@dragonslayerz2220 Still gets S tier.

[@cuitkul]

@@Shenaldrac The problem that it has only Tackle for 20 levels, and then it gets just Bite

[@Shenaldrac]

@@cuitkul Yes, and _in spite of that_ it still makes S tier at the end of the video.

[@michaelclark2458]

@@cuitkul and pre dark move bite.

[@tophmidnaYT]

I really appreciate the art for the more notorious trainers that Serena made for these videos. They add an extra level of quality on top of the already impressive interface and editing

[@rejectx7798]

We have Ice Cream for Sandslash is the most wholesome blooper I ever heard.

[@MightPKHannover]

your rant about wing attack and peck was so funny, love it :D great video as always!

[@youtubemixup756]

Actually caught the premier on time this week. Very much love your content Scott. The strive for perfection makes my adhd brain happy.

[@Destiny4Travail]

I've always loved Gyarados. I leveled one from a Magikarp on almost every play through of gen one, or fire red leaf green.

[@HomeCookinMTG]

Honestly it's hardly even worth it in gen 3 IMO. In FRLG I'd persnally rather use Starmie.

[@skateboardious]

@@HomeCookinMTG intimidate can be really useful tho

[@HomeCookinMTG]

@@skateboardious Ive just never found it necessary in FRLG, even nuzlocking, almost every important battle has an encounter that walls them entirely. I just think Starmie uses the super wide move pool better, being that it has much better special attack.

[@Kurzwife]

I cant help but use gyarados in almost every game with physical/special split . Especially rom hacks with higher difficulties. Intimate, dragon dance , massive sp def and the fact he's a water type is just so good.

[@HomeCookinMTG]

@@Kurzwife yea but I was talking about vanilla FRLG. EQ Gyarados isn't as good in those games since you can't use it on Agatha's ghost types due to levitate, and for everything else a super effective move is probably gonna be better. I solo'd the whole e4 in with a Starmie in a hardcore nuzlocke lol.

[@Wild-by5hl]

Love how your videos take me to other content creators. Been checking out Vanman inbetween your uploads. Always great when you drop a video

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I'm glad you can find other people through my video! That's the goal.

[@valor1omega]

It's cool to see how you guys learn from one another. Great video as well.

[@paulwells8457]

Great stuff as always Scott. It is becoming increasingly apparent that a lack of badge boost options can really hurt higher tier mons final times. The optimisation on this run was enjoyable none the less. Keep it up mate!!

[@dragonlord4194]

Finally a great and fully evolved Pokémon. Nice to see the greatest Gen 1 water type get his rerun! Really nice video and until next time!

[@johnnyrankin]

Been looking forward to this one! Top tier video as usual!

[@ryanlane680]

The animation sequence leading into the elite four gives me the same rush I had when I played this as a kid, great stuff man

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

That makes me so happy! I'm glad it did something for you.

[@Abigdummy4life]

Tbf, aside from balancing issues, Lockstin's video on the dragons has a reasonable theory on why Gyarados isn't a Dragon type (Chinese dragons that abuse their power can be demoted to mere flying serpents by the gods). But still, I love this water serpent either way. Lance, Cyrus and Lysandre made Gyarados so damn cool these days. Hands down my favorite Gen 1 Pokemon of all time, even though it's EXTREMELY common in many casual playthroughs.

[@thenerdbeast7375]

5:05 the tiny Gyarados at your feet killed me! XD It may have not been your usual style but if I were you I would have had Gyrados closer to its natural size behind you like Onix behind Brock in the same picture!

[@seanpollard3393]

1st off, this has to be your most unlucky video ever. 2nd, to see how much your scripts, animations, and gameplay have improved. I love your channel. Can’t wait to afford to be a patron!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks Sean

[@Phil-S8]

Pokemon Yellow was the first game I played, and Gyarados was the first Pokemon I got to level 100 (from a level 5 Magikarp no less). The nostalgia is so real...

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

That’s awesome! Especially going from level 5-100 with a slow growth rate Pokemon!

[@Karamuto]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon depends on if he leveled it actually or used the missingno item glitch 😄

[@maxmercurythemm827]

@@Karamuto I don't think he'd remember it as something special if he used the dupe glitch to feed it rare candies though (i don't remember the first pokemon I did that on).

[@Jac735]

@@Karamuto in yellow that's unreal it's hard getting a pokemon to level 100 unless you keep grinding or some type of code you can to do that

[@Moonkitvelvet]

@@Karamuto lol it sounds like they were a kid, probably didn’t know how to do the glitch

[@StraMou93]

07:18 I don't know why but after you spiralized around the stairs I laughed a lot 😂😂😂😂😂

[@OmniscientVoid]

That battle versus the Champion, with your narration of course, had me rolling laughing!!! 31:57

[@zerraticz]

Hello Scott and Denis! I'm glad I get to catch the premiere this week! I had to watch last week's video a day late, but not this time! I've always thought Gyarados was one of the coolest looking Pokemon, but I don't ever remember being impressed by it as a kid. I'll be curious to see what it can do in your expert hands!

[@MrZachensation]

The art is really enjoyable. The final 4 art has such intimidating poses, I wouldn't mess w/ that Agatha.

[@togakhan1274]

Why not Mimic Earthquake from Rival Sandslash final fight?

[@tazdingod3001]

That was awesome! Thank you! Kinda expected for Gyarados to do better but hey - I still love it!

[@alextrujillo472]

Right before you thanked Sabrina I said to myself " I never realized the drawings of the trainers includes all of the Pokemon they fight with. That's a really nice touch. I'm glad I did his Patreon" I also have told you before I love when the Pokemon are sad or happy when they win or lose.

[@miguelmarinblanco6367]

Nice video as always, keep going with the good work!, a couple of weeks ago I got an ez flash and tried this run in real hardware just as I got it(gba with a rom-using your guide for the universal pkm randomizer :D), so no perfect ivs and no 4 times speed, and im quite sure that i have not even close your game knowledge and optimizations, but i want to tell you some differences with my playtrought, 1 - i beat brook a level earlier because i tried to get some crits (lv 13-14 not sure) 2- i got the jolteon team for rival battles (extra exp early so less grind) 3 - i prioritize claciums over carbos to get better rolls vs some pkm 4 - i use the pokedoll glitch (my bad, i will try not to use it again, i wanted to go fast xD) 5 - i didnt use mimic at all, my final moveset was tbolt, ice beam, hyper beam and surf. Things to consider: beat the game at 3:25 and level 59 (I think that the time is lower because the pkdoll glitch and less "bump" and use of the bike over walking normally at 4 times speed) the final rival battle vs jolteon have 3 main benefits, 1 thunder misses 30% of the time (vs 100% of thunderbolt of magneton), 2 jolteon can go for t.wave or thunder, and t.wave misses 25% of the time (more chance to survive there), 3, jolteon is less bulky than magneton, so it can be ohko by hyper beam. I love to play gen 1 pkm and your videos motivated me to start this kind of challenges, and i was very surprised that as I try this challenge, less than a week after i ended it, you upload the very same that I try, i love make this comparison, and i hope that i can do more challenges like this one and try to improve my times and game knowledge watching your videos. Gracias amigo! Nos vemos in your next video. Cheers!

[@rtyuik7]

i just wanna mention how much i appreciate all the Subtle details in the editing for these videos...specifically, i mean things like at 21:30, the way Magneton's Cry sounds, as the image pops up onscreen...or how just about every '69' or '4/20' that appears onscreen usually has a teeny-tiny ^(nice!) next to it...i just like how you made the effort to put those "easter eggs" in, almost as much as i like finding them lol

[@rtyuik7]

ooh, also 31:24 to 31:45-- against the Dragonite/Dragonair xD

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I always want the viewing experience to be fun!

[@kode-man23]

🤣😂🤣 The speech-to-text bit had me rolling hahahaa Also, I thought for sure that "linearly" was going to feature heavily in the bloopers, so kudos for getting that word out with no issues.

[@joshgregory1763]

I never knew that 1.5 times experience increase thing. Thanks for the deep dive you do into the numbers.

[@bradlauk1419]

Timestamp?

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

It's actually not the case anymore since Gen 7. However since Gen 6: If a Pokemon evolves by level, they get a few bonus exp (around 1.2). I.e. a level 17+ Bulbasaur or level 37+ Charmeleon.

[@luizbezerra4373]

(W)rapping lass with her sprite singing some rap was the best thing I've seen today, thank you

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You're welcome Luiz!

[@an3582]

I love the Rappin' Lass Image! That flow she got.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Such flow.

[@artje90]

learned something new in a pokemon video props doesnt happen often but cloyster having such amazing statline compared to the rest like gyrados damn. keep it up

[@Yahaali]

You hands down have the best production.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks so much Yaahaali! Working really hard to make each video as engaging as possible!

[@TheWispGuy]

How bad could Gyarados be? 1:20 Oof, I never knew that. This is gonna suck. .-. 1:47 Imagine the look on the Lass's face, since she could've taken down a behemoth like Gyarados. 12:00 Okay, I know I saw the PokeManiac's art in the Nidoran run video - unless it appeared early, I may have forgotten - but I think this is the first instance that the Status Condition Jr. Trainer got artwork! (Unless I'm wrong, correct me if so!) I also never commented on it before now, but I love that the Selfdestructing Hiker is holding a bomb! Sarina has done a great job on all of those pictures she's drawn for your channel! 13:32 Although it would be incredibly silly, its fins could function for Wing Attack. XD 16:42 Oof, what a turn around... You almost had Erika too! 21:50 And I thought Gyarados would breeze through this fight... At least the second attempt went better. 21:21 Okay, those little edits made me chuckle. XD 48:06 Pretty good run of Gyarados! If that's foreshadowing to a Red/Blue run, I'll be looking forward to that! BONUS 50:49 Okay, the Ice cream mistake was pretty funny. XD

[@octosage2861]

earthquake misplay aside watching Mr. fish's wild ride was a joy to see out of most of the gen 1 playthroughs.

[@georgiosvavliaras1066]

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS YESSSSSS

[@rickardudd218]

Probably seen this 5-6 times now, the re-watch value of your videos are really high. I hope my comment does something for the algorithm.. Take care Scott!

[@wildresin6292]

I was waiting for the vid i was one of people suggesting it to you. Gya is a monster.

[@PlaguevonKarma]

Thank you for the flashing lights warnings, it's appreciated

[@lucaspereira9722]

I would've never expected for gyarados to be slower then poliwag 😲😂

[@MightyRyan1337]

Gyarados being a flying type instead of a dragon type always baffled me. Also I remember the anime making Dragon rage seem like a super powerful move when in reality it's trash lol

[@leonardoluiz7487]

Not saying it's better but since you didn't mention it, did you damage test mimic on Sandslash's Earthquake for magneton?

[@FreeSpeechArtandWrestling]

I also like how you take the frustrating trainers and you have character designs for them. And it brings back a lot of memories because I remember in rock tunnel how when I played it as a kid that if you got hit by self-destruct on your best Pokémon, you were stressing because you didn’t want to do the rock tunnel all over again and you also felt like wow they give a Pokémon such a overpowered move it early in the game like that.

[@special_kitty7195]

I always used this dragon even I. Gen one. It was one of the few backsprites that didn't look horrible. Good work you did this Pokemon justice.

[@sashasscribbles]

Thanks for the fun video again!

[@LovevonMelenEkman]

One thing I would love is seeing more footage, OR graphics, showing the routing and environments and other cute information from the games outside of the battles.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I'd love to show more footage, but then the videos would be like 2 hours long, or they would be a bunch of rapidly flashing lights... I'm going to make a VODs channel and upload un-cut runs with my live commentary in case people are curious.

[@AmataTai]

I love catching my level 7 gyarados with the Mew glitch in red/blue- so OP

[@shadowdragon714]

which pokemon do you need to face in order to get Gyarados to appear instead of mew?

[@AmataTai]

@@shadowdragon714 I can't remember >~< Once I get to that area I do the mew glitch with everyone from cerulean cape to the park past Vermillion - you can get a lvl7 gengar and chansey in there, and pretty sure one missingno for early item duping (I remember it being a vulpix, and could be redone as long as you let the vulpix ko you)

[@HomeCookinMTG]

@@AmataTai the only issue with doing that to get certain pokémon is that their level up movesets are trash lol.

[@AmataTai]

@@HomeCookinMTG since Magikarp has nothing, this one of the times it's strictly superior XD

[@streetguru9350]

Holy shit I made a premiere. I just hope Sacred Fire/Aeroblast Broken Smeargle is in the pipeline. *Gamefreak, why TF doesn't Gyarados learn Thrash???

[@sebasimp]

i love the extra professor oak battles at the end

[@grundgutigertv6170]

I love the trainer art your friend added. Nice work! Send her my regards please

[@jameswagoner1460]

Have you ever thought about putting the current opponent’s move set on screen? Next to your current move set and PP maybe? Just an idea. I love your vids man, keep up the great work!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I've wanted to add opponent team, a tooltip describing the trainer (items, ai, notable facts), the Pokemon's movesets, and their stats. I wanted to do this in August 2021. I implemented it a bit in December 2021/January 2022 but I didn't like the aesthetic and felt it needed a visual over haul. I'm working on re-implementing it but other things like finishing the videos on time have taken priority.

[@danw3576]

Goddamn, the "peck" discussion was easily the peak of this video.

[@Salnax]

Ah yes, everyone’s second favorite Pokemon that should totally be a Dragon type. I’m predicting that Gyarados will start a bit poorly, due to poor level up moves and the Slow growth rate, but will catch up once you start getting TM’s, especially since it’s great stats were even better in RBY. Though not having a decent buffing move will keep it from being top tier.

[@Holthyr]

I loved gyarados when growing up. It was my first favorite Pokémon and dethroned much later only by suicune. Anyways I always belly-ached about how it didn't get dragon typing too but supposedly Japanese see dragons as creatures of honor at least within the title dragon. So because gyarados are so known to lose control of their tempers they are demoted to water/flying instead of water/dragon.

[@andersonantunesdeleu8591]

Another successful job Scott! You're so cool! But let me just tell you one thing, if you mimicked earthquake against the champion wouldn't it be easier for you to beat Magneton? I was just wondering about it ...

[@christiecat5367]

Gyarados is my fav Pokemon - SO HYPE

[@matttypes2695]

If Gastly, having no fists, can learn Ice Punch, then Gyarados should be able to learn Wing Attack or Fly.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Fact

[@JJ-qo7th]

For your considera tion: 4x weakness is definitely a reason to delay fighting Surge, but 2x weakness isn't always. Water types often (not always) have very good special. I was talking to someone about this when they were surprised that Raichu lost to Vaporeon in a Gen 1 battle. I wasn't surprised. Vaporeon has HP, Special, and to a lesser extent Defense. Raichu mostly has speed.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Delaying the battle post tunnel is better, but not by that much

[@rtyuik7]

(also, toward the end, after the bloopers, i think "Oak-kay, how do we do?" or "Oak-kay, here we go!" or something to that effect would be a neat way to introduce the segment...like, as a regular thing, or until it gets too cheesy/repetitive)

[@garrettblaylock8297]

good video enjoyed it Gyarados is awesome

[@qweschuning]

Living for the bloopers

[@brianknieling9742]

There was a decorated General with a heart of gold That likened him to all the stories he told Of past battles won and lost And legends of old…

[@cdajah6920]

Grass electric venomoth.. the bane to all water/flying types. I’m proud of you to defeat the brick wall!

[@darianclark3980]

Gyarados is such an amazing Pokemon! Great Immunity(except Stealth Rocks), Intimidate, just an awesome design! I'm really hoping it finally gets its Gen 1 OU Status in the still in development/ongoing RBY metagame!

[@Zorgdub]

I want to scream: "Mimic Earthquake to take out Magneton!" at the end. The tunnel vision is strong on this one.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Soon.

[@davehaines4766]

Hey Scott, as you get through the dex of gen 1 I've been having bets with myself as to who will be quickest and earn the top tier spot. Contenders are poliwhirl (amnesia will be huge), mewtwo obvs, although it learns its best moves too late, and mew. On watching this though dragonite has jumped, has a much better solution to brock and the same movepool with better stats. Lorelei may be a problem though! Looking forward to seeing them all, keep up the good work!

[@mistermr2147]

For Dragonie, starting with Wrap slows it down a ton, and there's nothing great to take on Agatha. It's good but nowhere near the top unfortunately. Starmie will be good but its Special might be a bit too low.

[@Colin1Moriarty]

Wow that move set at the start is abysmal.. really makes Gyarados go from pseudo legendary to pseudo legenbarely! After Brock though it makes sense that the coverage it has and stats make it breeze through the mid game! Not gonna lie now I really need @VanMan to do a Gyarados video cause I need to know how it performs with its peak move set haha!

[@mycreativeandgamerschannel]

"Abit ruff and abit hard what else would you expect from Brock' Lol That what he said

[@Schlaym]

After over 20 years, I STILL learn about hidden items in gen 1. Never knew about the rare candy on cycling road!

[@gabr.7878]

I was thinking how this would be even close to a challenge, and I was like Gyarad-oooooooooooooh when I remembered the starting moveset

[@victorjavilescolon8521]

Nice video!

[@williambrinkmeier1772]

Mimic earthquake from sandslash for magneton should be 200 power vs it compared to 150 hyper beam and earthquake gives you more options vs the rest of his team.

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

0:25 - ye know, that Gyra backsprite actually reminds me a lot of magikarp, so they did something right with it

[@GraceAndGlorySmash]

There's a gen 1 thing where you can use the daycare to overwrite HM moves with levelup moves since it automatically replaces them. Would you consider using that in a run? The daycare might be a little against the spirit of the challenge, but it'd be cool to see the moveset flexibility sometimes.

[@danielotano8677]

Feel like that would waste time

[@josephgarcia8209]

1:17 I would catch my starting pokemon in Red/Blue version with a gameshark as a kid. I can confirm that in those versions, catching a wild Gyarados its starting learnset will be Bite, Dragon Rage, Leer and Hydro Pump. Completely broken, and good to know it was changed in Yellow.

[@isaacboyer2694]

Would a moveset for the champion of surf, thunderbolt, blizzard, and mimic (to get earthquake from sandslash,) have done any better?

[@shadowtitanx3962]

Ah Gyarados. Or, should I say "Water Onix". In all of the Generations, Gen 2 Gyarados is the worst version sadly due to not having any good Physical coverage options and the Special stat split happening, dropping its 100 Special Attack down to 60. But, past that, Gyarados is a powerhouse in any other Generation, even in Generation 1 due to its solid Special stat and wide coverage. Especially Dragon Dance, move coverage options in Power Whip for Rotom-Wash (Yes. It gets that in Gen 8), Stone Edge for Zapdos, Earthquake for any grounded Electric types, Bounce for Flying STAB, and Waterfall's 20% Flinch rate in later Generations.

[@grundgutigertv6170]

Im currently doing a lotad only run in emerald. The grinding is really bad. Without a water move, Wattson turns into a brick wall. Thanks for the material to listen to while leveling up. Ill make sure to watch as soon as a venomoth comes on screen.

[@acumenium8157]

Mimicing Earthquake in the Champion fight would've made Gyarados win it first time. Hyper Beam almost one-shotted without a crit, and Earthquake will be 50 BP stronger (100 * 2 = 200 vs. 150 Hyper Beam). It also eases RNG massively against Exeggutor since you no longer waste a turn against him Mimicing Hypnosis. Basically, think of it like this: worried about Sand Attack? Valid, but it's less run ending overall than missing Hypnosis.

[@skeetermania3202]

Sandslash doesn’t even have Sand Attack in the champion battle, so even that’s not a valid concern.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I tried earthquake and it didn’t one hit. So I wrote it off and went back to hypnosis. I didn’t run number on it, but I’ll show those off very soon! :)

[@skeetermania3202]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon What level did you test at?

[@acumenium8157]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I'm really surprised that Earthquake wouldn't have one shot when you showed Hyper Beam doing ~90% or so to Magneton without a critical hit.

[@joshgregory1763]

Nice run

[@charlessegale6493]

0:21: *sees Kingra* Yeah, I feel you, dude. Also yes, I do believe General consensus agrees that the Gyrados sprite is indeed that rare occurrence where it looks much better in Red/Blue than Yellow. On a related note, I actually think the Green sprite for Blastoise looks better than the Blue sprite. Both are chonky, but the Green sprite at least looks cooler. This is the case for several other Pokémon as well such as Eggsecute and Ponyta.

[@dustinarnold5569]

Really should have mimicked EQ on the sandslash for the champion fight. Moveset would be mimic (EQ), surf, thunderbolt, hyper beam. The blizzard for exeggutor wasn’t needed because good AI would just use leech seed and it would take a bit to t bolt/hyper beam to take it down but you wouldn’t lose to it. Then you’d have coverage for everything else for the easy win. Otherwise great video as always

[@roryrevolution2348]

I always struggled to decide if I wanted to use Gyarados or Cloyster in my playthroughs but I didn't realize until now they even tied in base stats too lol honestly I think the only reason Gyarados is a flying type at all is because it it was a Dragon or even a pure Water type Game freak thought it would be too overpowered. Especially since you can get one early on. But on another note, I love the fact that in PLA you can find a flying Gyarados.

[@williamtheconqueror1260]

Hi Scott. I love your videos! If you have time then I have a recommendation: Do two generation 1 playthroughs. In the first use each gym leader's weakest pokemon. In the second use their ace. Compare your times once you are done. What do you think?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Neat idea!

[@PhildoBaggins]

First time seeing back sprite?? You didn't grind a karp as kid?? Man that was such a great experience to FINALLY get Dos.

[@LetsRot40]

I don't think I've ever played gen 1 without a Gyarados 😝 I can't imagine not using this bad boy. Same with Abra/Alakazam. They're the epitome of what being a pokemon trainer is about: sticking with your fish through thick and thin until that loyalty is rewarded with a versatile beast of a pokemon!

[@priestesslucy3299]

Some people don't have the patience to grind a Magikarp. Especially the type to run through the game with a single Pokemon as if they were a digimon tamer instead 😋

[@salamense6791]

did you test using mimic for earthquake in the champion battle?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

it survives - sometimes

[@888Grim]

12:12 Cool to see that the status jr trainer got her art =)

[@MeriadocMyr]

8:49 i feel like after the 3rd, maybe even the 2nd, harden water gun would do more damage with it's higher base power and stab

[@grinbrothers]

The only issue I see Gyarados having is it's 4x Electric vulnerability... which is off-set by it's great special (rest in peace my Nuzlocke Voltorb; wasn't able to one-shot the rival's Gyarados). Given how beastly Gyarados is, the title of this video certainly intrigues me. 2:00 - An early loss here would have been hilarious. Terrified a poor early route lass with your Gyarados only for it to be felled by a Nidoran. 12:00 - Hooray, the Pokémaniac has art. I kind of forgot they looked like scientists originally. An the status condition Jr Trainer. The Rock Tunnel Four all have artwork now; so awesome! 16:42 - "This is easy." Famous last words. The irony of losing to the Grass type Gym Leader Erika is hilarious. 31:31 - My brother had a similar thought process in thinking Grass types resisted Fighting types, not realising this was because so many Gen 1 Grass types were part Poison. The results were interesting to see. A limited move-pool early game and slow growth rate were obstacles, but as others have pointed out, the Champion's Magneton would have been a non-issue if you just Mimic'd Earthquake.

[@jamesadkins7150]

“I took the dome fossil, after all the dome fossil is the best fossil.”……shun the non believer! 🤣

[@madddd1]

Well deserved S for my not dragon dragon angy fish, tho very bottom. With there was a setup move to oneshot everything with hyper beam