What is the BEST CHEAP WIRELESS Guitar System - Part II

[@dtwow98]

Really appreciate your videos! I really get tired of seeing crappy amateur videos. Yours are always professional and very helpful. Thanks!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you! I appreciate that

[@marctestarossa]

Thanks for the time you put into those budget wireless systems. I definitely need at least one of those, simply because I have a very expensive hobby: destroying instrument-cables. It's been a problem all my life, wireless systems always used to be way too expensive and I haven't looked into those for quite some years. But now technology got so cheap that they don't cost more than a quality cable. So I absolutely get one of those

[@ferox965]

I've been using the Boss wl 20 for almost a year. I love it. No cables to get tangled on my feet, less clutter, sounds great. I'm a bassist-1980 BC Rich Eagle Deluxe into a Tech 21 dUg Pinnick sig into my Orange Bass Terror.

[@mikehewett4393]

The Boss is a good system BUT you need to be aware that, if the guitar input is used to switch on an active pre-amp in the guitar it MAY not work. my Yamaha acoustic wont work but a self fitted Fishman is fine. The Boss uses a trs plug to communicate between the two units for charging and syncing and fails to connect the power for the pre-amp. Just depends how it is wired. Have fun!

[@Sea_Jay]

I picked up the WS70 after watching a previous video of yours. I am not disappointed. Using it at practice and live gigs and it's solid. Appreciate your reviews on these. Thank you

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! Good choice, and I’m glad you like it 🤘

[@muzikmon2267]

I don't understand the difference between the WS70 and the WS50... Other than The design is different. Does the WS50 50 different receivers in the 70 mean 70? I know they're different manufacturers but it looks like they just repackaged it and made the same thing as the Swift WS50.. Because Swift also has another one call the WS70.. The one that you're using is also a WS70 with a different name. Interesting hmmmmmm..

[@duanekauffman1818]

I was using the swiff audio when opening for Wynonna Judd during a 4th of July event the sun fried it and I had to switch over to wired, other than that I’ve never had interference or issues with the swiff audio. The hot sun seems to me my nemesis . I Bought some XFives so far so good. Had a problem with my pedal board in the sun during a gig in Texas but that’s another story for another time. Great video. Thanks.

[@4deuce31]

I just got the Swiff WS 50 for my Spector bass, and it kicks azz. I run my pedal board through my effects loop on my GK Legacy 500. In the loop is my tuner, Acoustic BPDI, Digitech Drop, and an Xotic sp compressor. It sounds just as good as my cables. My tone is great. If you want to ditch your cord, the Swiff works great. I live in a brick building, and my room is in the rear. I went out into my parking lot, and it didn't miss a single note. No more tripping on cords at gigs.

[@mintonmiller]

a few thoughts; 1. I find that the majority of people who have complaints with products of any kind, is that they do not know how to trouble-shoot, or they simply do not manage their expectations. Cheap products are cheap for a reason. 2. I seriously doubt there are 50 different manufacturers of these products. I worked in manufacturing for a while and I can tell you that many brand names can be made in the same building and can be almost identical. 3. FREQUENCY drives me crazy. I am a ham radio op and what people do not understand is that when you see 2.4 Ghz, that is not a channel, it is a frequency band with many channels. A good example of this is CB radio. CB operates mostly on 27 Mhz. It is devises into channels 10 Khz apart. (a few exceptions to the rule) So channel 25 is on frequency 27.255 Mhz and channel 26 is on 27.265, channel 27 is on 27.275 and so on. The entire band goes from 26.965 Mhz to 27.405 Mhz (channel 1 - 40 respectively). I know most folks do not know or care or care what the difference is between band and frequency, or band/frequency and wavelength. But if people are going to use RF devices (radio frequency) a lot, maybe they should do some research. The reason this drives me crazy is that different bands have different properties that cause them to work very differently. Choosing the right band for the right environment (on the beach verses small room, large room vs small etc.) can make a world of difference. The other reason this stuff drives me crazy is that almost none of these devices from Wi-Fi to the various systems seem to give any information of the frequencies they use. You can get are too close together. So in the CB radio example, if you only have a 4 channel radio and your choice of channels are channels 18, 19, 20 and 21 it will work well most of the time. but if you get interference from a nearby strong signal then the chance of fixing the issue by switching channels is next to none. But if your channel choices are 1, 10, 30 and 40 you would have a better chance. I wish I could find more information on how each band is divided up into channels, what is the band width of a device and what actual frequency it operated on. Your idea of having devices in several different bands bands is a good one. You are using UHF and two different microwave bands and that is a good plan. but even then, it would be helpful to know the actual frequencies used, or at least the degree of separation between channels for each band. One more thing people need to keep in mind, is that all these devices use an FM system as aposed to AM. FM by its very nature is a mode where the strongest signal wins. The further away you are from your receiver, the more chance another device has to override your signal or at least mess it up a lot. FM has a naturally high noise floor so to compensate for that they have a squelch circut built in to them to eliminate the noise and allowing only strong signals to come through. (Strong is determined by the output of the transmitter and also by proximity) Although it limits the range, FM offers a cleaner quieter signal with far less chance of interferences. So when it comes to managing expectations and deciding between cheap or expensive, people need to know their needs and it would be so helpful to have some understanting of how RF works.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Wow, great comment and a ton of details. Thank you for this! 🤘

[@normg2242]

I watched parts 1 and 2 and I really love your level-headed approach. Thumbs up from me on both videos!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you! I appreciate it :)

[@abiolobo]

Muchas gracias! Muy importante tu información! Gracias por regalarnos todo tu tiempo y experiencia

[@saggylobster]

Excellent presentation and recommendations. As I watched the presentation I pretty much came to the same conclusions that you did prior to your recommendations. I guess that says something. I've checked out the frequency bands on my modem, which is basically 2.4 and 5.8. I'm going to investigate frequency range of my hearing aids. For the last 55 years I have pretty much just played in my own guitar room and occasionally with friends just to enjoy music or unwind. This price range should be perfect for me. As long as there's good return policies there's little risk of not finding the right equipment. You really have a knack for making videos.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! I appreciate that 🤘

[@ianmarcinkowski]

Thanks! I appreciate your take on this. Not enough practical advice from gigging musicians in the demo/review space. I really just want it for home play and bringing to jams at the local bar. Preventing cable tangles is tough on a cramped stage with people cycling on and off the stage all night. I just ordered a Getaria 5.8ghz on because it was the best looking one I could see on Amazon Canada.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! Enjoy, and these are completely useable for that setting. Just make sure it works with your guitar setup, and always have a cable on standby just in case if you use it live 🤘

[@miguelteixeira1979]

Regarding Fuzz, it's pretty simple. Mainly for fuzz face type of circuits, the pedal needs to see the pickup impedance. So don't use buffers or wireless system before.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks for the comment! I’m not a fuzz guy so that makes a lot of sense 🤘

[@RogervandenHaak]

Love this and your other video on cheap wireless systems. Very clear and lover your pragmatism and common sense. Thanks!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you!

[@lennyevans4724]

Thank you for your reviews, they are much appreciated for the odd wkend gig guy. If I'm doing a large venue, I'll always go back to using a cable as I don't want to mess around with something that may or may not work and I'm too cheap to buy the expensive gear... at least at this point.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Hey, it can’t hurt for sure! Seems logical to use a cable if you are worried about your cheaper wireless. Again, I’ve done a gig with one of these in front of 60k people, so they CAN work, but it’s up to you to decide if it’s worth the risk. Thanks for the comment!

[@zapshotsmedia]

Great review and even better part 2 immediately followed part 1. Appreciate the update and went for the swiff for my active bass.

[@Five0Music]

Awesome “tone snob” commentary!! I’m soooooo sick of hearing comments from dweebs griping that their $50 gear works like $50 gear. Or that their $50 gear doesn’t have the capabilities of $1000 gear. You get a thumbs up on this video for that section alone!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks Rick! I appreciate that 🤘 People like what they want for sure, and every musician has different preferences. It does drive me nuts when a “tone snob” shops in the $50 wireless department and then gets upset at me because I use these (as a non-tone snob). It’s pretty baffling. I appreciate the comment 🤘

[@MichaelFeldman71]

Tone Snob, when you say it, it makes perfect sense and isn't judgemental. Replying for a friend! 😅 Your whole point around that idea is really well explained. Thank you

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you!

[@dooniehead]

I really appreciate your candor. I am a “tone snob” But here I am wanting to get a wireless system, a cheap one at that. So I can walk around. After I’ve spent thousands of dollars on peddles and Mogami cords. thanks for helping me reevaluate what in fact it is I’m going for. Because as it seems, you can’t have both. Tone snobs sometimes there are things that aren’t there. Lol thanks again

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you for admitting to it lol! It’s refreshing to see that in the comment section 😊

[@dooniehead]

Yes Scott, I admitted to it, you know that’s really the first step. L O L. I bought rt after the stumbled your vid. I received my WS - 70 yesterday. Less than 3MS of latency. The difference is so minimal and the freedom is so liberating. I will never be tethered to another peddleboard or amp in my life. And that particular one, well I was 35 yards away from it and I still heard it perfectly fine. Outside of course. Lol. Thanks so much for your suggestion. You’re the one that even had me consider a wireless. don’t know how it happened or wireless systems have come so far. I know they have, but I got some really bad opinions back in the day that turned me off the wireless forever. 30 bucks. The cord I was using was 10’ Mogami it cost 2x as much. But every other one of my connection cords /patch cables are mogami. I think it’s the best of both worlds. You need to be being paid for the video. I am buying at least three more. Before these people change their mind on the price. Lol. Last word, the thing that put me over the top and sold me what is your quote on how you never really gave it much thought. You just connected them and went for it! That was the line, even if there was a slight tone lessening or some thing. there’s nothing a few twists of some knobs that can’t straighten that right out. You’re the man Scott rock on🎸

[@ScottUhlMusic]

@@dooniehead I'm so glad to read stuff like this :)

[@mattaltman2810]

I bought the Boss on a recommendation from my lead guitar player. It works great but sometimes I find that, even when I go through the link procedure, his Boss and my Boss interfere with each other. Not all the time but I switch to a cable and his Boss works fine. 🤷‍♂️ Gonna try a couple others based on this video so Thanks for doing this!

[@jramnorway7985]

Thanks for the video 🤘 I use the NUX and never had a problem with it 🎸🎸🎸🎸

[@bradsims7089]

Your last video convinced me to get the amoon even with the dropout. Thanks for finishing my research for me! Reading specs can only get you so far. At a certain point, you just need to listen to somebody that's used it.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Awesome, great choice, and glad to help out 🤘

[@SirLoinMagroin]

Thanks. You are my go to guy on wireless. That said: I was one of "those guys" that said the #2 and #6 were unacceptable, even though I understood that they are fine "most" the time. That being said, I'm in a Condo that my router says I have well over fifty 2.4ghz and 5.8ghz competing signals not even counting mine as well as others remote heli/quad signals, a radio station about 200 meters away, an ambulance and fire station 300 meters away, a police station 550 meters away, a couple taxi stations, etc,etc. That's why I ordered the Swiff WS-50 from your excellent reviews as well as Lekato WS-80.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! Yeah it definitely sounds like the swiff audio would be the best choice for you. My router gives me trouble as well 👍

[@N4T5A]

Thanks for this. I've been following your channel for years now. Keep at it man!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you! 😊

[@rondroider8904]

Finally, a very good video for cheap wireless guitar system. Subbed!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks!

[@musiciankellett]

Thanks for the helpful advice and guidance. I bought the Lekato WS70s and straight away found they ruined the sound of my Gibson Les Paul so returned them. Thinking I am a Tone Snob (as per your vid) I went for the Lekato WS50 expecting to return them too. But the sound of the WS50s, while not quuuuite the same as a cable, was more than adequate and works fine on gigs with passive pickups on a Strat and on a mandolin plus -PLUS!- active pickups on my acoustic guitars as well. Very very nice top on the mandolin sound.

[@coryjohnson4135]

Great video man, super educational and thorough! Many thx!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you!

[@jfchabot3949]

Great job, maybe a detail would help other’s Don’t forget to look at your pickups specs I use DiMarzio X2N mostly and that’s the highest output pickup I have a Xvibe 2.4ghz and a Gemini R10 512-541.7Mhz I can’t find any real difference… I use them on a active bass pickup Both great, never had problem

[@donniejean]

Haha same, I like the lights and buttons!

[@stmaclca]

Excellent I watched both part 1 & part 2. My line 6 G30 transmitter got damaged. You helped me make a decision on a replacement, I use both active and passive basses so going to go with the Swiff. Many thanks :)

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! Great choice!

[@allrakk419]

Did you get the swiff ws-70?

[@stmaclca]

@@allrakk419 Yes, I got the Swiff WS -50. I am happy with it, however when plugged in to my tuner, 1st pedal in the line when activating the tune / mute switch I get a popping thru the amp (its a Korg pitchblack) I then bought a NUX C-5RC no problems with popping noise thru amp. I do use both and take both with me to gigs & rehersals. Also I made a box (totally passive) to sit on my board to plug the wireless unit into it holds it upright and away from any stray feet then a patch lead to tuner. Both wireless systems are great. Thanks to Scott again he made my decision easy.

[@tlmacalpine]

I really appreciate your reviews of these systems. I’m curious if you’ve considered the frequency response differences and maybe this goes to your tone comments. I happened to notice that the Swiff uhf system only lists a response range from 30hz to 16khz where the similar Lekato system has 20hz to 20khz. I’m still new to all this and so maybe that difference is not obvious to the common ear but I thought I’d ask. Cheers!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! And I don’t hear any real tone loss between them. Anything from 80hz-15Khz is usually fine and almost all of these are at least in there

[@mikehewett4393]

30 to 16k will be fine for a guitar or other instrument. The Lekato is designed to also be used as a wireless TRS connection so, will transmit recorded music, for example. 20 to 20k is roughly what you will find on any PA system.

[@oao8227]

I've been using those brown Amoon ones fore over a year now since I saw one of your earlier videos. I haven't had any issues with them but I always have a cable there just in case. They also make little sounds like something rattling inside them, they've taken a few tumbles. So far so good. I'd love to get Sennheiser wireless guitar setup for more peace of mind but I already have an awkward time having one body pack for my Sennheiser EW-300 IEM. I do tribute band stuff with uncomfortable costumes and several guitar changes. I can't imagine having to have two body packs. Luckily the ammoons haven't crapped out on me. Though I should definitely get another backup cheap wireless. Love all your videos man. Even though I don't necessarily plan on building elaborate rigs I still love to watch the videos. I do have a couple of Widi Jacks that I will start using very soon to Midi my new Ampero Stomp. I recommend your channel to plenty of folks who ask about wireless

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you! I really appreciate that 🤘 and for the sennheiser, if I play a show with one guitar I put it on my strap, but if I have to switch, I usually leave the wireless on my belt, so I can unplug and plug in the new one. But if you are doing costume changes, that might be tough haha. But it’s an option! If the ammoon is working great for you, getting a 2nd or backup one is definitely the way to go too for cheaper 👍

[@oao8227]

@@ScottUhlMusic The costume changes/wig changes are hectic sometimes and even mustaches and whatnot. Switch from 3-4 guitars. I struggle enough with the IEM body pack haha. Keep up the great work with the videos! Cheers

[@pod7450]

Thanks for this. I got the Lekato WS70's and they work like a charm for me!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! Yeah it’s a great system! Enjoy

[@DaVinci0963]

Thanks for the info and your videos! I use Getaria 5.8G to practice with everyday and have owned them 5 or 6 months. I don't have any problems with interference but the tip about router interference was excellent. However, if I get careless with my phone when I'm doing something off of KZbin and get it next to the receiver I have to move the phone. This only happens when the phone is literally inches from the receiver. I don't have to move the phone but a foot to alleviate the situation. I use a BOSS ME-80 and forget and prop the phone up on the board too close to the receiver. Derp....

[@captainkirk70]

The Joyo is fantastic. Highly recommended.

[@captainkirk70]

8 hr battery and no latency that ive heard. I've had mine 2 years with zero problems.

[@chrislopez9156]

Thanks for the super video. I bought a 5.8 and 2.4 Getaria wireless system. Going to try out the Swiff Audio and Lekato 900mhz

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Good choices!

[@kernelxsanders]

The reason why some don't work with active pups are because when they are plugged in, the see a voltage and go into "recharge mode". The ones that work with active pups are able to distinguish a charging voltage vs preamp voltage.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup, that’s correct! Thank you for your comment 🤘

[@neysonza]

What? They have different connections for guitar signal and charging. And guitar signal is AC and is too low even the ones with active pickups. Your comment is wrong

[@louiscyfer6944]

kernel, that is complete nonsense. they don't charge through the 1/4" jack. they don't work with a tive because the input is high impedance, instrument level, the active pups overload the input.

[@kernelxsanders]

@@louiscyfer6944 I guess you've never owned any then, because many of them most certainly charge via 1/4 jack. Don't just assume you know what you're talking about lol

[@kernelxsanders]

@@neysonza I will refer you to the response I just made to the other guy.

[@DIVA-MC-7]

Here's my experience with those wireless.i got the swiff audio like you highly recommended and there's really low noise, I like it, I use it for rehearsal all the time. I also got the rowin one because I wanted to turn in into a wireless inear monitor (like a another famous DIY youtuber explained how to do it) and I did, it works pretty well, there is some noise to it though. The thing is I have 2 passive basses, and one active and I noticed that the swiff audio has less output volume compared to the rowin one which is 2,4ghz (which a more noisy signal), so now if I need really good output (I switched the pickups on the pbass) I will use the rowin and use the cuvave/mvave wireless inear monitor that I got and its spot-on! For 20$ cheaper than getting a rowin and turning it into a IEM. I use the swiff audio on the active basses only now or if i dont need much output ill use it on a passiv one. I tried the NUX one at a studio it seamed to work fine but the setup was awfull so i founs the bass not sounding so grwat, ill have to test it on a real amp or a DAW. So I decided to build a high quality cable I must admit it's great!! What a pain to choose between freedom and "tone" or "sound" 🤣😅 thanks again for those reviews Ps: always Chek the tip of your Swiss audio WS because I used to plug mine into a secured neutrik female jack and it would pull the tip a bit out of its socket. I would have very much noise and not know why, has soon as I noticed that , I put the tip right back in deep and it's perfectly sounding again. Now I Chek every single tip of my jacks.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Awesome! Thanks for commenting with your experience with these systems 🤘

[@jackfrench7176]

Could you link that video about the in ear sustem at all?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6DcnHqAh8iDhtk 👍

[@Ghazwan-rb2ov]

I’m planning to get NUX one

[@LevitatorMusic]

I get so happy every time you say Nu-X instead of "nucks".

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I said “Nucks” for a while to be fair hahahaha.

[@akumusik3582]

Thanks for doing these Videos 🎥💯

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks for watching 🤘

[@keokiheller4351]

Another great vid dude! Yes please on that Phoenix system! Aloha!🤙🏽🏝😎

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Definitely will be doing a video on that one. Might be a little while, but I plan to get to it!

[@Albion12345]

I’ve used the Phenyx pro one for a while now. It’s very cheap feeling and even sounds like something rattles when you shake it. I think it’s where the connector joins with the plastic. That said, it has worked fine so far with my les Paul type guitar and as a diy iem. It also has a volume control which is pretty nice. Their more expensive unit runs on 900MHz and has a ac-powered box as the receiver. It’s supposed to be really good and we might try it at our church sometime.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yeah I reviewed that one here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYnbaoCKerefnqM It’s quite nice! I’m curious to try their portable one. They are actually updating the design now for it

[@Albion12345]

@@ScottUhlMusic oh cool, I didn’t realize that. I wondered why you said you wanted to get it when it’s released lol. They posted in their Facebook group that they’re coming out with a really nice dual diversity wireless mic for around $150. But that was back around thanksgiving and no updates since then.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup they mentioned they are working on that one too. I’m stoked to try it out once it comes out. They make a lot of great stuff!

[@acidbran]

I have two sets of the WS 70 and one set has broken at the swivel. They work but are coming apart. I only use at home and for lessons. Some interference now and then. Swiff died rather quickly also. I think I'll bite for a more expensive set today. Thanks !

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Dude… thank you for the common sense comment! I really appreciate it! Cheap ones have their limitations. Gotta spend the money if you want more reliability. I appreciate the comment 🤘 Sorry they broke, that’s definitely frustrating.

[@acidbran]

@@ScottUhlMusic The cheap ones aren't robust enough, at least for me. Going with Xvive as they seem to be better, yes more money but I'm sick of buying these every year. Thanks for a great video.

[@acidbran]

@@ScottUhlMusic Xvive are in my Kemper now, just got them today. Feel more robust than the cheapo ones for sure.

[@JohnOhkumaThiel]

This taught me a lot about how to make a successful channel. This is my opinion, like it or not.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks!

[@forshigity5000]

I need one for the bedroom studio. which do you recommend? Thanks and subbed.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Really any of them. Still my recommendation that I made towards the end of the video! But always try it out, make sure it works when you get it, and if it doesn’t then return it and get another one 👍

[@LastFinal-bo2nw]

Thank you so much! These videos are exactly what I needed. I’m trying to put together a convenient and portable system for jamming and messing around with loops, beats ect. Especially on the go. (Outside /at the beach/ backyard/ forest) What I’m considering: focusrite solo 3 + blackstar fly 3 (battery amp) + cheap WL guitar system WL transmission to audio the interface -> into iPhone or iPad garage band -> output mini amp via short cable However that lekato with the option of transmitting straight into iPad has sparked my curiosity. Would that function properly. Obviously I would only be able to play the track via speaker but it’s only about making fun solo jams .

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Just be cautious with compounded latency. Too much wireless and then going into an iPad can cause compounded latency. Just be aware of that 👍

[@johowohoj]

I’ve been using the brown Ammoon unit for a couple years and it has not failed me unless I didn’t allow it to charge fully…I use it weekly at rehearsal and the occasional local gig, including crowded bars and outdoor festival type settings…Not sure what the lifespan of these batteries are like though so I’m thinking about picking up another pair…I see on Amazon that the ammoon is not available but there is an identical (although different colored) looking unit called lekato…Well, thanks for your informative video…

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup, the Lekato is almost the exact same thing. And that one has worked so well for me over the years. I too will eventually buy another one when the battery eventually does die (still going strong after 2 years). At that price it’s worth it. Thanks for the comment 🤘

[@EsteemHeadshots]

How about a video about wireless systems for "line in" XLR & 1/4 signals? That would really help out DJs who are looking for ways to go wireless from controller to powered speakers and from headphones to controller.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I use this one to go wireless to PA speakers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3iohZWLgrCtfZY

[@tankdarla637]

Well explained. Subscribed!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! 🤘

[@jakisvindornakiju4765]

Not gonna lie, I think that the best purpose for those cheaper wireless systems is... in-home convenience. If you live in a smaller flat/appartment/house with no spacious rooms, this is going to spare you a lot of hustle with the cables. One of those things you can't appreciate until you have one of these. In my case it was the Getaria one - cheaply looking but definitely serving me well. For a year so far :)

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup, I agree completely! However, I do still bring these with me and they work quite well. My singer uses one as his main one and it works great too. I see a lot of people playing live with them. They won’t always work 100% of the time, which is why I bring my $1k sennheisers to the big shows. But for the price, these are quite amazing. But anyone using them at home? Absolutely worth it!

[@timbopie4504]

Hey man, great channel, subbed. Found you looking for these reviews obviously. I'm with you on the cable thing lol. Wondering if you've tried the newer version of the Lekato WS 80? It came up on Amazon as the newer version when looking at the WS 70. Thanks, great videos.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! And I cannot find which one is the WS 80, is it the 2.4ghz one? If so, I would go with the Swiff Audio or a 5.8ghz one instead 👍

[@268Brookland]

I’m watching this because I have the swiff system and it would not work in my pedal board 😂. I thought there might be a recommendation of one of the cheap ones. I definitely did not expect the swiff to be the number 1 recommendation.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Haha well with these cheap ones they don’t work with every setup. That’s just part of it. Swiff works great for most people, but not yours. Try the NUX ones or spend the money to get entry level Shure or sennheiser 🤘🤘

[@RobCmusic]

I have a Lekato WS-70. It sounds a lot closer to my guitar cable than my Boss WL20. The Boss has a significantly higher output. The Lekato sounds nice to my ears, but I do get random short dropouts with it. I haven't used it live yet, this is with the transmitter and receiver about 1 to 2 meters apart. I will try it at a gig, but I guess I'll see how it goes.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Try changing the channel on it if you are getting dropouts. Here’s how you do that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f16Xl59pibuFZtE

[@RobCmusic]

@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for the info. I had no idea. There was no manual with mine, so I assumed it was just as is! I also came across the WS-70 branded as Swiff Audio here in Thailand in an online store.

[@MrFlexitron]

I've used a couple Lekado 2.4 and 5.8GHz wireless systems. To me thay seem to be fine most of the time. However, I've experiences drop outs and glitches from time to time but luckily, not when I was playing live. I recently purchased the Sennheiser XSW Digital Base Set for instruments which also transmits on the 2.4GHz band. Since I just got it, I've not really had enough time for a full review. So far, it's working great. I'm courious if you've had any experience with the Sennheiser XSW systems. I also have used and still use the Shure GLX16 system, Sennheiser EW 100 G3 portable, and the Boss WL-20.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Out of all of those the EW series is the best! The XSW is too expensive for something on 2.4ghz imo. My sennheiser ew 500 is extremely rock solid, but obviously much more expensive than these

[@AlitaBeyay]

I don’t know if it’s the best, but I bought the Swiff . Works great and I like it because it’s beautiful to look at, I probably would’ve gone with the Nuex because I like the charging case. But when I made my decision, I happened to show up on Amazon when they were having a flash sale. Three hours left so I got it for only $38 out the door.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Swiff is my first recommendation to people 🤘

[@AlitaBeyay]

@@ScottUhlMusic this one just looks five times better than then the Guitario which made top five first video. This one looks worthy of my guitars. Thanks.

[@cyclejammerj7227]

I ordered the Swift Audio unit today (used ur link). As well as subscribing to your channel. I have 4 active pick up basses, so we'll give it a go. I'm totally with you about bang for the buck on these units. You get what you pay for. And yes, I've paid more for cables than $60. And I'm defiantly not a "tone snob" so with all this said. Thank you for the awesome "real" videos.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you! I appreciate it 🤘🤘

[@sseltrek1a2b]

really practical stuff, here...thanx...

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thank you!

[@pipelineaudio]

Thanks for mentioning it. How do none of these reviews mention the fact that these things cannot handle even a moderately loud pickup without distorting? In contrast to the video, not all (or even probably, many) of the pro wirelesses can handle louder pickups either and have no way to trim. This is a different issue than the electrical problem with active pickups and some of these

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Glad you found the video that does mention it :) I saw your other comment. There’s no way I can test our gear with every pickup/pedal/amp combo. So my best advice is what I said in this video. Test it immediately. Return it if it doesn’t work. And buy a higher end one if you find that these don’t work for your setup. They are cheap for a reason. Best of luck. I highly recommend that sennheiser one I replied on your other comment 👍

[@parthmenon]

The Guitar Gadget man!

[@ScottUhlMusic]

🤘🤘

[@derekjamesteague3845]

Enjoying the vids. I'm the video of the Swiff WS 50, you said it operates in 500mhz-900mhz range but in this video you say only 900mhz. Why is that?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

The website is confusing about it. It says 500 or 900mhz range. But the only ones I’ve got were in 900mhz. It’s pretty confusing.

[@louaguado995]

Aren't cheaper systems kind of like Bluetooth receivers? I've noticed plugging my phone with a wire has a fuller sound than when I use the Bluetooth. Guitar wireless systems seem the same, their frequency is limited and they cut out some of the bass response. Of course that can be adjusted with the EQ of an amp or pedal or PA

[@ScottUhlMusic]

No, they are not Bluetooth. You cannot use Bluetooth for live audio because of latency. But some of them use 2.4Ghz which is the same frequency as Bluetooth and wifi

[@steveliberty]

I use these systems in a way that is perhaps less common -- I use one wireless system from guitar to pedalboard, and another system from pedalboard to amp. As long as I use low latency sets, I don't notice any latency issues even though the latency is cascading. But what I do bump into sometimes is that the signal coming out of my pedalboard is too hot for the 2nd system. I get digital noise when I am hitting that 2nd wireless system too hard. If I turn down the level coming out of my pedalboard, the digital noise goes away. One system that I have found that works better than some of the others in that second position is the Getaria 5.8gHz system (black transmitter, silver receiver). They don't seem to mind the hot signals. The Swiff UHF system seems to suffer a lot when the signal is too hot, as do the ammoon / Lekato ones that are sort of shaped like a guitar. So I stick to theBlack/Silver set for output from my board. And my favorite system for the 1st position (guitar to pedalboard) is the Lekato WS-70. Very reliable. Granted, my setup is not the same as yours so YMMV. Thanks for the great videos.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks for the comment with your experience with them!

[@LRHutch]

I might try the Swiff, but I know I will order a Shure with the belt pack to replace my old one. Thanks again for your opinion and explanations on these units. Yep I'm a tone snob lol that's why I'm going to order the Shure.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Hey! You know what you want, there is nothing wrong with that :) And Shure makes amazing stuff!

[@steveliberty]

I know you can't try them all, and especially can't review hem all. But I thought I would mention another inexpensive wireless that I have tried. It is the BrianFay Wireless System. It comes in 2 versions. For $100, you get the transmitter and receiver in a case that charges the wireless (sort of like Earpods). For $50, you get them in a case that doesn't have a built in battery, but you can charge them in the case by connecting a power bank to the USB C port on the case. This is a UHF system, and I am having some good luck with it so far. Caveats? Just 1 - form factor might not be for everybody. But BrianFay offers an accessory that can help solve the form factor issue as well.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

hahaha great timing Steve, my video on the Brian Fay wireless comes out tomorrow :)

[@steveliberty]

@@ScottUhlMusic Looking forward to it :)

[@MichelleTaylor1]

Something that I didn’t hear you mention is that some of the flip models can loosen up and become floppy after a while and so don’t hold the position. The Boss system wins in that regards as it is a solid unit. 💁🏼‍♀️

[@ScottUhlMusic]

That is true 👍

[@gemzentaurus5537]

It will be nice to know the make and model of the home studio Wi-Fi router that's causing the interference with the Ammoon transceivers? Have you tried updating the Wi-Fi router firmware? A router firmware update might correct the interference issues you are having. You can also try to manually change the channels your Wi-Fi router is using to transmit in the 2.4Ghz & 5Ghz frequencies (consult your router user manual for automatic or manual channel configuration). Switching to a less congested channel will alleviate the interference the wireless devices are experiencing.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yeah I do need to do that with my router. I know my singer did that with his router, so that is always an option 👍

[@daveoppelt1340]

I have the xvive and I've had no problem it.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

That's the important part! If you found one that works for you, awesome!

[@cugir321]

I have a "double" magnetic wireless pickup (acoustic) cut out from time to time....I'll have to check the input volume.

[@Michael777Simmons]

Awesome thanks

[@ScottUhlMusic]

🤘

[@ericdrabs7457]

Hi, Thanks for the interesting reviews.I was wondering if they do the job for bass guitars???

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Most do yes, but always test it once it arrives!

[@dr.tolgademir]

Hello Scott. This is the best video about these wireless systems. Thank you very much for sharing this. I have a question. I am using Lekato WS 80 (2.4Ghz) and very satisfied with it. There is only one issue. When I connect it to my Boss GT 1000 Core and select the acoustic guitar patch (some other clean tones also) it makes a terrible hissing and buzzing sound. Using that patch with cable makes the sound crystal clear. When I use my Lekato by directly connecting to the amp has no issues at all. Do you have an idea about this problem. Thank you very much

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks! And yeah that unfortunately can happen with the cheaper stuff. I have no idea why. But that’s part of the risk with cheaper wireless it seems like

[@dr.tolgademir]

@@ScottUhlMusic thank you for your answer

[@fredd036]

Great videos! Have you checked out cheap wireless monitoring systems? I'm looking at ways to monitor through wireless bluetooth headphones, but can't seem to find much information on that.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup! I’ve done multiple videos on those: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6DVfZ-Vq92Md5Y kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6Swpa2Jqql7Y9k kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6qqhIWvibyVnqc

[@JoeServia]

I bought the SWIFF system based in this video. I have returned it. Here’s why… I was intrigued by a new frequency that would be less likely to experience disruption. However, when I tested it, I found that it reacted negatively to my picking attack. When picking aggressively, it would clamp down and soften the attack. I had to pick gently to overcome this, but this is not realistic if I want dynamics in my playing. My Xvive U2 had none of these issues. I am curious if others found the same. In addition, the sound quality was somewhat inferior, but I could have lived with that. Thoughts of those who had purchased the SWIFF?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I just shot part III to this video series and it will be out sometime soon. I know that some people can have that problem with cheap stuff. My swiff works great for me and my singer. My best advice is to try it and return it if it doesn’t work with your exact setup (sounds like you did that 👍). Don’t want to risk it? Save up for a Shure or sennheiser and don’t use cheap stuff 👍

[@Jason22Douce]

Just adjust your amp to compensate for the 'tone loss' change the wireless systems make to your sound. Easy peasy 👍

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Exactly!

[@deepsynth3495]

Please do some more hx stomp videos. I really like your vids.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Thanks, I’ve done quite a few of them and I’m working on more. You can see the playlist here: Helix/HX Stomp Tips kzbin.info/aero/PLeo7dSvjxGd5UFEIVqymu_F5Ar-lDDg_R

[@deepsynth3495]

@@ScottUhlMusic your snapshot video is seriously helpful. Thanks man.

[@rnegtr]

The 2.4 NuX unit does NOT work with all active pickups and the manual even describes that issue. It has a 3 conductor plug which is the problem. I can’t speak to the 5.8 but if you buy the NuX thinking it will work, test it first and be sure you can return it if it doesn’t work with your active guitar. (It does not work with my LTD EC with active Fluence pickups).

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Good to know! I don’t own any active pickup guitars, so I appreciate comments from people who do. And yes, ALWAYS test it immediately with you guitar. Especially when buying cheaper products 👍

[@ImmyT89]

I sold my WS-70 and baught the WS-50. I found that altho the WS-70 is good in terms of signal frequency, it sucks your tone so much (only has 86db dymanic range). The WS-50 which has true 110db, much closer to real cable tone. I play aggressively that's why I noticed immediately the volume dip when using the WS-70. Its as if the signal/output is compressed. Unlike the WS-50 which sounds so full and rich. Even compared it to my Mogami cable and the WS-50 tone is so close. The only downside is it runs on 5.8ghz which is not so bad 😅

[@TheBassDrill]

I found an interesting product M-vave WP-8 - compact 2,4 Ghz wireless system with powered box and type C usb ports about 35$ on ali. Also available on reverb for 45$

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Interesting! I’ve done the reviews on the ones with the rechargeable boxes (NUX and Brian Fay)… but not at that price. It’s still 2.4Ghz, but that’s pretty cool!

[@TheBassDrill]

@@ScottUhlMusic and I found another one - Swiff Audio WX503. Close analogue of the Nux B-5RC with charging from jack - based on 5.8 Ghz and a little cheaper (about 90$).

[@davidfranky1986]

dont apologize your correct some people just terrible

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Haha I’m not upset with people, it does just get a little irritating when people go “why isn’t this $40 wireless not everything I get in a $500 system??” It did get tiresome after a while haha

[@andrew6889-p5c]

I got the lekato WS 50. They worked for only a day. Lekato sent a free replacement after a few emails. The replacement seems to work.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nice! Yeah, they are usually quick with responses. Thank you for being logical about it and realizing it might have just been defective :)

[@tonyisonfire]

I got the leakato ws70. It I sent them back. They have a lot of base noise as you play a note. They have a sort of noise gate that closes the signal when the volume of the note is fading away, so even with distorted sounds you lose at least 20% of dynamic, tapping is impossible for this reason, th guitar just doesn’t emit sound case this “gate”.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Addressed in part 3: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III kzbin.info/www/bejne/roPQnpqohtR7kLc

[@misahel924]

Check the Aroma arg-07 AND Aroma arg-06 very Peculiar systems

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Ah interesting… it has a tuner built into it. That’s pretty cool! Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll look into that one 👍

[@muzikmon2267]

Don't all these come with specs so if one is too hot before you buy another one out look at the output of it in the specifications and then find another one by looking at that manual or call the company to find out what that output is make sure it's less. Rather than just buying them and trying them over and over again.. I would hope they have specifications on the output and input.. stuff like that

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Yup, always problem solve if you have a known issue 👍

[@vernonsalibad7343]

Nice review and explanations here. I do have some of tye cheap Wireless guitar systems (2.4Ghz). It does work, does not cut off my tone. Although I do observe that it disconnects my phone on my Home WiFi. I wonder what system can work that does not cut off my guitar tone, and does not cut off my phone connection to my Home WiFi (not a WiFi 6 nor 5.8GHz router)?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I like the swiff audio one for sure 👍

[@timclaus8313]

Not sure if you have tried them, but I have had very good luck with a Carvin WG5 units. About 150 bucks, so outside of the low price range, but still good bang for the buck.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I just looked it up. 4 channels and on 5.8ghz…. Eh it’s a little high priced for me imo. But if it’s working great for you, that’s what’s important!

[@timclaus8313]

@@ScottUhlMusic Main thing is no interference, drop outs, sound is good, and works well with acoustic guitars, active and passive electrics. As you have mentioned, always good to have more tools in the tool kit.

[@TheBadNexus]

Thx dude

[@ScottUhlMusic]

🤘

[@luiscardona8723]

Hi good morning! I just saw a Koogo brand with a guitar wireless that also has the function of a headphone amplifier for monitoring. It looks amazing, can you check it out? Greetings from Colombia 🇨🇴🇨🇴

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Hmm… that’s interesting. It’s currently on sale for Amazon prime day. I see it has an aux in and a headphone in. That’s interesting… I wonder what would be the use case for that. Because you wont hear any guitar processing at all and would be a direct signal from the guitar. Thanks for sharing it with me! I appreciate it. I just wonder who would benefit from that? Am I missing something? Let me know, and thanks again!

[@luiscardona8723]

if used in the opposite way, it serves as an in-ear monitor. You connect the transmitter to the mixer and you connect your headphones to the receiver. just as you showed it in a monitoring video for 100 dollars

[@ScottUhlMusic]

@@luiscardona8723 ahhhhhh. Interesting! I didn't really think of that. Now you don't even need the headphone amp... although you wouldn't have a way to turn up or down the volume. Very interesting. It's like $28 right now... I might have to get one to see how it works. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@luiscardona8723]

exactly, if the only thing is the lack of volume control but it is very cheap. I'll be watching if you ever bring it to the channel. Thank you very much for all the information you bring us, I had already given up buying wireless phones because of their cost until I found you 😀

[@ScottUhlMusic]

@@luiscardona8723 Well, I just ordered it haha. It might be a while till I get to it, but I'm going to try it out. Thanks for the suggestion and for following the channel!

[@pdtheowl9292]

Lekato WS-70 for me!! Liked it so much I got another, toured in Connecticut with them, have been playing almost all my shows with them over the past half year

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Awesome! Glad it’s worked out so well for you 🤘🤘 It’s a great system

[@94SexyStang]

Good to hear, just ordered Kekato because the shipper was Local.

[@pdtheowl9292]

@@94SexyStang Prepare for a great experience!

[@somewhereelse000]

I only have experience with the Lekato (WS-70?), and I found my compressor didn't run efficiently and feedback was difficult to induce (Tele into a Lonestar). I also noticed a massive volume jump when I went back to a lead.

[@AndyC-vc7cj]

I recently bought the Getaria 2.4G product and was shocked at how well it worked. Easy setup, works fine even 3 feet from a personal computer streaming content on a 2.4G network and our home is about 50 feet from high voltage lines. All good, though mechanically the product seems pretty cheaply made…plastic housing and slide power switch. I would love to go wireless headphone to replace the wired I often use to maintain marital harmony. Lots of the reviews of inexpensive 3.5 to Bluetooth transmitters suggest unacceptable latency. Thoughts or suggestions?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

You always get what you pay for, but if you find a good one it’s definitely worth it! Getaria has been great for sure!

[@markus-xf1kw]

How do these work with distortion im thinking about picking them up?

[@AndyC-vc7cj]

@@markus-xf1kw opinions vary, but other than relatively short battery life before needing recharge, I have no regrets. That is coming from someone who can’t hear the difference between a $30 Mogami gold plated contact cable and a $10 no name cable though. I typically play rock/blues with a bit of metal-ish thrown in if that helps.

[@abhishekdani7]

Scott sir, what abt LEKATO stero wirless system 2.4ghz?? i watched ur vids and brought Getaria WL, i want another with stero what's your suggestion???

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Lekato is good for these cheap ones. Just be sure to watch part 3: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III kzbin.info/www/bejne/roPQnpqohtR7kLc

[@hermansnoeckx]

I had the getaro and the sliding switch gave up after only four months, I life in a humid climate perhaps the rust got into it, then I bought another one on 5Ghz, no 5.8Ghz where I life, it played fine until you touched the volume knob and all hell broke loose, scratching sqeeling and you name it' I even replaced the volume pot on my guitar thinking that that was the problem but nope, so completely unusable on stage, problem is that the 6.3mm jack can be unscrewed from the boxes and reveal a small stereo mini jack underneath it, after some search on the internet it seems that the wiring ( internal so not fixable ) between the stereo mini jack and the 6.3mm jack is wrong so if you can unscrew the 6.3mm jack, don't buy it.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I suggest watching this video to find the right one for you: 5 MUST-KNOW Tips for Cheap WIRELESS MUSIC GEAR! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYaxc3ufaqtml7M

[@asianman7232]

Have you tried the joyo?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

🤣 that’s the one I do get asked the most about haha

[@ddubbz1979]

But I seen that CFG advertises that 2.4 has less latency. Have you noticed 5.8 has more?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

No, I’ve never noticed that before with any of them

[@phillineminettepunla7382]

What is your recommendation guitar transmitter for church set up?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

For wireless I always say to start with the swiff audio. That’s been my favorite. If it doesn’t work, return it and try one on 5.8

[@franktriggs]

When I've tried to plug a digital wireless into my vintage unbuffered Jen Doublesound fuzz/wah, which must be first in the chain, I get nothing out, no signal at all. Edit: I think it may have something to do with impedance. As it needs to see low impedance from pickup.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

That can happen with these cheap ones. That’s why it’s worth trying immediately, if it doesn’t work, return it 👍

[@ibendiben]

Any of you know a wireless system that works for keyboards/digital pianos? Smoothhound distorts badly... Wonder why.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

That’s the risk with cheap stuff, but most of these should work fine with keys 👍

[@donald-parker]

Unless I missed it, you didn't mention if the "active PU" models also work fine with passive PUs. That would be nice to know if you are switching guitars.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

I haven’t heard of this. Can you elaborate?

[@donald-parker]

@@ScottUhlMusic Sorry for not being clear. I'll try again. You mentioned a couple of cheap wireless brands advertised specifically to work with active pickups. My question is, if you buy one of these, do they work on guitars without active pickups as well? Or to put it another way, if you use both active and non-active pickups on different guitars, do you need two different wireless units or will one work with both?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

@@donald-parker Ah gotcha. Yeah they'll work fine on guitars without active pickups too!

[@alexharden848]

I’m drawn to the Boss. Have you got anything against it except the price?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Nope, boss is a great unit. Built very solid and great battery life. I wish it bent/swiveled so it didn’t stick out, and I wish it was on 5.8 instead of 2.4… but it’s been actually quite reliable.

[@michaelb.42112]

My guitar player and I (active bass) use the BrianFay Wireless that lasts 36 hrs on one charge. The ONLY "problem" is it looks like a pen, so it doesn't look good on front input jack guitars like an SG, but we LOVE the performance of the BrianFay Lollipop. $89 bucks nearly 5 star reviews.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

Interesting, I’ll have to check that one out. I just looked it up, I like that it’s UHF. But yeah, that is one ugly looking wireless lol 😂 Why didn’t they make it bendable like most of the other ones?

[@ScottUhlMusic]

It looks like they sell a right angle adapter specifically for it. That’s interesting. I’ll have to check this one out. Especially if it’s in 500mhz or something. Thanks for the comment!

[@michaelb.42112]

@@ScottUhlMusic What ??: That's new then. I'm gonna buy two right NOW. Thanks Scott !

[@michaelb.42112]

I just ordered 2. So, Will said every single person who has gone to buy gear from his craigslist ads said they ask about the BrianFay.

[@ScottUhlMusic]

@@michaelb.42112 Nice! Yeah I'm gonna have to check this one out likely. I need to see what frequency it transmits on, but I'll look into this one. Thanks for the comment!