Scrap Mechanic What Happened?

[@VroomNDoom2602]

The moment chapter 2 comes out, everyone's gonna open their steam library and hit that download button.

[@caydenvandusen7464]

if*

[@Esodilla]

Yea if it ever comes out

[@AlmandoHooker-c5b]

And then never play the game again probably

[@iidogninjx]

Update button*

[@caydenvandusen7464]

@ erm actually, alot of people have scrap mechanic uninstalled so it would be download button and not update for some

[@ericpalmer343]

You really undersold the latest update-- draggable wedges, physics improvements, and netcode fixes are INSANELY valuable to those who are still playing the game

[@mus_xr4653]

Those updates should have been released in 2022. I really want to play this game but the infrequent updates keep me from getting the game. Now I only watch scrapman and kan waiting for the developers to release chapter two

[@ThatDarkSquid]

"undersold"....right... Draggable wedges - all wedges were already achievable before the update. Physics improvements - only improvement is you can put a lot of tiny loose parts. Other than that countless creations were broken because they changed part collisions and weakened the joints. Moreover these physics changes don't only apply to "Smart" physics (which, other than the part I mentioned before, only dynamically changes the physics level depending on creation requirements -> means you could already achieve the same result before update by lowering physics) but also to the others so you cant even escape the creation-breaking changes. Netcode fixes - there are no noticeable ones. Astonishingly it is worse than before: constant player desync which was much better before the update. Believe me, (at the very least for the technical side of SM), this update is virtually nothing but a stepback and people are calling for a rework in the next update. It is quite obvious that this update was just a way for them to just delay chapter 2 yet again and still have the "promised update of 2024". (this by no means should stop people from playing the game or anything of the sort, I know i will keep on playing. It is just such a shame to see how they completely disregard everything that was made before the updates by changing physics and other unnecessary things like hitboxes... same thing happened with survival update.) ok thats a chunky reply.... probaly should be a comment instead....

[@Esodilla]

The latest update was the first in many years and it brought basically nothing compared to the content other games have produced in the same timeframe

[@halalouis3814]

@@Esodilla no? that was a full physics rewrite

[@thej3683]

@@halalouis3814full physics rewrite is a stretch

[@AntPlayzs]

My first ever game on steam was scrap mechanic, around July 2016. I was already watching people like scrapman for ages and always wanting to actually play it. Around 1000 hours and i honestly still enjoy this game

[@Esodilla]

Really, what else is there to do in the game after all these years?

[@UnidentifiedFlyingSquirrel]

⁠@@EsodillaIt’s been a really long time since the last major update, it may not be all to easy to find something fun to do, but it’s still fully up to your creativity as to what to create. The shear amount of stuff that is possible with the system already in place is obscene for a game that technically hasn’t even gone through a full release. I don’t expect anyone to stick by the game for all this time without any big updates, but ya can’t think that there isn’t still stuff to do, it has more streamlined possibilities than Minecraft for what’s possible in game, and look at the amount of stuff that just keeps coming from technical Minecraft! Read this in a casual tone, I mean no hostility!

[@AntPlayzs]

@@Esodilla honestly when I dont play survival, I just do what I originally did and just mess around with other peoples creations and time to time build my own

[@dhlabsgaming1065]

Almost exactly the same thing for me, too, although i got the game later on.

[@eh6802]

i think the most important thing for enjoying Scrap Mechanic is pacing yourself. playing the game for a bit, then giving it a break, then coming back to it is key to leaving the experience with the game fun

[@rose_no]

I'm fine with slow development. I mean, they optimized a lot in this last update, and if quality takes time, I'm not complaining.

[@PitBull51091]

update like this should've been seen after maybe one or two years after 1 chapter (survival release), now we should've seen 4 updates like that, some for gameplay, other for more content... ...and if devs really are working on something big, then we should've seen effects of their work and interest on community and players showed in adding many things to game constantly, not periodically like this...

[@Esodilla]

I understand that but at least some communication would be nice as we hear nothing from them all year except for when they delay it again

[@PitBull51091]

@@Esodilla and what I've just said?! xD better and more often updates also are form of ommunication and in some ways keeping game on top of interest in pples minds... ...now Scrap is somehow almost forgotten and in many ways abandoned...

[@guphord]

@@PitBull51091 updates are not a form of "communication"

[@PitBull51091]

@guphord yes, they are... In this particularly case when you are still developing your game, you want players to stay in and come new, and if there's nothing new then pple are quitting and forgetting about it...

[@the_adrigues]

I believe smaller, content adding updates (doesn’t have to be anything related to chapter 2 and its lore) would be better than silence for many, many years.

[@thej3683]

Definitely

[@Atomizer_E]

As someone that plays SM once every 3 months, the mods are straight up how the game stays alive And with the new physics, more stuff can be done with said mods All praise Fant man, all praise Fant

[@guphord]

“all praise fant” 😭😭😭what

[@Atomizer_E]

@guphord Fant is the guy thats made the most leaps in SM modding He legit turned the entirety of Scrap Mechanic into an RPG, its wild really If it wasn't for him, neither me nor quite a few players would still be playing Scrap Mechanic

[@guphord]

@@Atomizer_E it’s extremely narrow minded to attribute the whole scrap mechanic modding scene and a major part of the community living to just one person. the game has always had a large community of modders so i’m not sure where you got that part from. sure, no one really made survival mods other than him, but that’s because they weren’t officially supported for a long time and because they’re very hard to make well(in fact i believe fant mod is actually extremely bloated and in fact isn’t made too well, despite all of its original content.) i also dont think the “leaps” he made were extremely substantial, and what on earth do you mean he made sm a Massive Multiplayer Online game, MMO? It also isn’t out of the subject to mention he doesn’t have a very good reputation in the community.

[@Atomizer_E]

@guphord Fix a few spelling mistakes, wasn't awake fully yet when I sent that As I can see from the POV of a guy that just browses the workshop, and not really caring about the intricacies of behind the scenes dev drama Fant is one of the oldest still running mods that is still updated with content that is fun to play with that doesn't completely change how survival works And I never attributed the entire community, I'm just going based off of Workshop download counts From the little history I do know, Fant helped push modding forward by creating some of the first modded AI (Unless I'm wrong, which I'm perfectly fine to admit)

[@CharmingHostilities]

@@Atomizer_E Hard to understand you with Fant's dick in your mouth. Unless you actually are Fant, and doing a poor job of shilling yourself.

[@rabidlawnmowers]

Unless I missed it, you left out the detail that, per Axolot, the game has been in development since 2011. It might have gone early access in 2016, but they'd already been working on it for 5 years at that point. Giving us a total of around 14 years of development for a game that is still early access, and hasn't even had a "chapter two" that they've been teasing for around 7 years. Axolot has their players figured out. The players rate the game highly, because they enjoy the small amount of content they have. Other new players buy it, based on those reviews. Then they only have to release an "update" every few years, and that keeps the gullible players still hooked, and generating positive reviews. There's plenty of businesses in the "real world" that have delayed product release, or just never released their advertised goods. And those companies get lawsuits, criminal charges, etc. But Axolot avoids all this by just going "Oh, it's early access" and that frees them of all wrong doing. 🙄

[@Qus-m8v]

Hey dude, I loved your video, I haven't seen a cool conversational video about scrap mechanics in a long time. I would like to translate it into my native Russian. It will expand the scrap mechanic community and help promote your channel.

[@Qus-m8v]

@@Esodilla Expand the scrap mechanic community and help you grow.

[@Qus-m8v]

@@Esodilla I'll translate your video and post it.

[@thej3683]

I really hope that the next scrap mechanic update can revive the game a little bit. Underrated vid tho ❤❤

[@NeutralChaotic]

This game is literally in development hell. But when you check the wikipedia article on it, you can see in the history that there's shills for Axolot that clean up any negative commentary about the game.

[@guphord]

no matter what anyone says or their opinions on anything, the complete lack of transparency is by far the most detrimental action of axolot. it is quite simple really to just show off some stuff they’ve been working on currently in a random tweet, and if there’s nothing new, they can give us further context an updates on old teasers that we still know nothing about. the bottom line of everything is that everything would be far better if they cared enough to talk at all.

[@rabidlawnmowers]

This. It takes a whopping all of 1-2 minutes to think up a sentence or two for a tweet, or FB post, or anything else, and to post it. Even if they're working 200 hour weeks, which they clearly aren't, there's still 1-2 minutes to say "hi".

[@Esodilla]

Exactly, it isn’t that hard to post something every week, like a picture or something to show there still there

[@maxdavies9958]

I still play it, your only real limit with what you can do in the game is your imagination, I'm forever building new machines.

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

you know you done messed up when your most popular content creator on your game (scrapman) now only plays your game on mondays 😭 great video though!

[@Esodilla]

Exactly there’s nothing to make content on on the game

[@the_steamtrain1642]

I feel like another factor is that the game is no longer unique, while you can make intricate suspension systems other games like space engineers have managed to take over the voxel building game scene and I usually point people in that direction unless they really want to play some parts of SM that other games don't have

[@wulfsthe7739]

great vid i loved the game and have been playing it for so long but honestly i was more frustrated by the physics than the lack of communication

[@Esodilla]

Yea the game needs a lot of quality of life updates along with content overall

[@wulfsthe7739]

​@@Esodilla i think physics are way more than just qualety of live there a core mekanic of the game and its sad to have a realy cool consept in your head for a cool elevator desin or something just for the physics to glitch out and it all breaking as soon as you turn it on That was ok in 1018 or something but having the same problemd nearly 7 yeahrs later is sad to see

[@DanielleWhite]

As someone who only recently started to play Scrap Mechanic (for various reasons I did not have a system capable until this month) I feel like I am able to enjoy it without the disappointment because my expectations were never for what should have been

[@Esodilla]

I feel like the Survival mode is empty and doesn’t have much to do in it

[@pieterdewulf4137]

the main reason as to why the updates take so long is due to sm having its own physics engine. when they run into a problem they have to fix it themselfs as there are no other people using the same physics engine

[@ThisGuy151]

Really good video, only thing that stood out to me was the *pop* sound almost every time you show an image, its kinda annoying after some time. Also i think using different images for "exiciment" (Ninja 20x in the video) or "axolotl" would improve the video, for example the first time you talk about "Axolotl" you show the logo of the company and after that every time you mention it you show different pictures of real axolotls, and again chill with the pop sound. Anyway great video for a channel with under 200 subs. Here before one million

[@dhlabsgaming1065]

Not a bad video at all! feels like it is from a mainline youtuber!

[@Landee]

I would really love to know why ppl dislike the video Good job anyway, just lower the sound of sound effect next time pls !

[@Thetitaniumsteppermotor]

I do see the frustration as i play geometry dash and had to wait over 7 years for a update that kept getting delayed. But especially for 3D games, development is a hard thing when adding features as the smallest changes can cause errors in the code to show. So sometimes slow development is nessacary to complete updates

[@Kotekoko_pl]

i wached scrap mechanic on youtube since 2016 and played it since 2020 its my most played game on steam but the devs dont care about the game anymore so unfortunately i had to swich to trailmakers this year beacouse its still alive and it still gets updates I wish it would still get updates beacouse that game made my childhood

[@cheeseguy97860]

I Love This Video Its So Amazing

[@Aurora99342]

i had enough time between the major realises to study to be come an actual mechanic

[@metelluscimber]

I appreciate you putting this information together. I don't know if Scrap Mechanic's story is much of a cautionary tale for devs though--didn't they sell a lot of copies and make a ton of money, thus making it so they could take as much time as they wanted, or just call it quits if they wanted to? It's more of a cautionary tale for gamers, or at least a reminder of the agreement between devs and gamers, being that they owe us nothing, other than the current state of the product, if we buy it in early access. I have over 3,000 hours with the game, so I'm find with the $20 I spent on it. One of the negative Steam reviews shown in the video had about 4 hours spent on it. You can barely scratch the surface in that time. I'm not defending Axolot's lack of communication and broken promises--that frustrates me--I just like to keep things in perspective.

[@rabidlawnmowers]

If you want to put it in perspective, then actually do so. There are PLENTY of games that are less than $20, also created by indie developers, that have gone to full release in a fraction of the time that Scrap Mechanic has been lingering, without the problems and lack of communication from their developers. There are games that are $5-10, of similar crafting, world exploration type ideas, that are far more stable, fully released, etc. If they don't know how to develop a game, hire people that do. If they don't know how to communicate with players, hire someone to handle PR. But there's absolutely no reason to defend a company that has mad millions from sales, and somehow can't muster more than 1-2 communications per year. I agree that you agree to the "current state" of the game when you buy into early access. But that also just provides a copout for developers. This game has been in development since 2011. Is it really okay for them to keep taking everyone's $20, and they can just brush off complaints with "oh, well, it's early access, we don't actually have to give you more"? "early access" is a BS escape, too. In any other product, failure to produce product on time is a breach of contract. With penalties. But in the gaming world, you can let stuff linger as long as you want, and gamers just have to suck it up. Even if they complain, oh well. You already made your money off all the chumps who bought in.

[@metelluscimber]

@@rabidlawnmowers or just move on 🤷‍♂

[@trashcanwithasideofsalt]

2:58 tbh, critics be like; we got a slightly better physics system ADN SCALEABLE WEDGES LETS FUKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@srairidas9096]

Wasn't expecting scrapman here but hey

[@trashcanwithasideofsalt]

how to tell ppl played scrapmechanic during the hype: (they thought the game always had a fast pace dev team L tbh, not OG's like quite a bit of us.)

[@dimon8363]

i love subnautica!😁

[@PitBull51091]

THIS GAME IS STILL PLAYED THANKS TO MANY GREAT KZbinRS (like kAN, ScrapMan, Moonboo), NOT BY DEVS THEMSELVES... ...ALSO SOME GREAT MODS KEEPS INTEREST INO THAT (FantMod, Crashlander, Raft gamemode)

[@nod4mag397]

I agree that the wait for chapter twio has been way too long, but you are comparing the game to two entireley different games. It would be better to compare it to say Trailmakers and Screw Drivers

[@Esodilla]

I was comparing Scrap Mechanic to those games because of the delays in Silksongs Release and the launch of No Mans Sky, not the genre itself

[@benditogames]

honestly i started playing the game like a couple of days ago and so far it's honestly not bad, i have a potato pc so i feel like the smart physics are kinda saving my ass, and I've been spending a lot of time on my first survival world , it's kinda bad sometimes in terms of how the cars handle but i feel like that's part of the game though learning how to make your cars better and how to grind more efficiently

[@Esodilla]

What other games would you guys like to see?

[@PitBull51091]

and now even chapter 2 will not uprise again this ame to full glory... NMS from Halo Games did very well in updates, and still after 8 years from release is updating content... ...and second thing: SM is still in EA, so is in even worse state than NMS and many other games, which didn't do well on premiere...

[@thangie.t.d]

thay are a small team thay don't have the man power to releace on time

[@Esodilla]

4 - 5 years is a crazy amount of time though no matter the amount of people

[@UnidentifiedFlyingSquirrel]

@@Esodillathey are doing a LOT with the chapter 2 update, for it to actually work and be playable it takes time for a smaller team. Though I do think they could’ve trickled content slowly that they were done with rather than waiting for just one big update

[@Esodilla]

Yea I agree with that

[@WarrenTaylor-vg8zr]

As a someone who likes to make games as a hobby, making games is considerably more difficult and complex than you think. The amount of bugs, recoding, and trying to get things to work can make something that seems simple take several months to do. Considering that they are not as big as some game studios, kee

[@guphord]

still no excuse for the lack of transparency and communication

[@pokey5509]

It's not a multi-million dollar AAA company so it's fine.

[@thej3683]

Yeah but 5 years is CRAZY for any team

[@cheeseguy97860]

@@thej3683 you know what else is crazy

[@B4evrtru-26]

yeah, its sad

[@Tygertec]

dude, leave the 1 dev still working half time at the game alone, he's doing his best! yall have no patience, who cares if a game comes in 1 year or 10 years... if it's good ppl will play