FLASH Plot Holes and Unanswered Questions EXPLAINED!

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The Flash was a weird movie, with multiversal travel, time travel, multiple bat-men, and uncanny valley babies falling from the sky. So we're here to answer all of your questions about this deeply strange movie.
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Kevin Hamilton on twitter asks, “The big one is who killed his mom…Barry not even being curious is a bit weird.” Now you did answer your own question in the tweet…it was probvabl;y professor zoom, like it is in the comics and the flash tv show. Zoom is a scientist from the future who hero worshiped Flash so much he gave himself speedster powers, and long story short he becomes a villain and goes back in to kill Barry's mother.
If they ever do revisit this franchise,I’m sure he will be the villain in the sequel. And Bat Bunny has a great follow up: “Barry’s dad being home doesn’t automatically mean Nora would’ve survived. If the thief/intruder snuck in he probably would’ve just killed them both.”
Yeah, so Barry reasons that the intruder would;it would have come in if he knew the house was occupied. His mom was listening to music really loud, but whatever. I’m betting that this is the lie Barry told himself, that his mother would have been safe if only his dad would have been there to protect her. Or, more precisely, his dad would not have been blamed for the murder.
Iut is super weird though that Barry concots this whole idea to move tomatoes up to another shelf, instead of just going back to the moment of his mom’s murder to see who the killer was..then years later he could catch the killer. It’s pretty clear he never did this so the movie could set up Zoom being the villain in a sequel that will never come. But more on that a little later.
Jim asks, “How did flash get his powers back from Clara in the sky? Just because chemicals hit him before?” Yes, that’s it. On the surface, it’s silly comic book logic that they could replicate the exact amount of chemicals that randomly hit Barry when he got his powers-but the same thing does happen in the flashpoint comic. I’ll chalk this up to what Barry says in the movie-that some events are just fated to happen.
Isra Z has a great question that we talked about in our easter egg video: “Why his Lightning changes from white (in JL) to yellow? Is it because of his new suit?” Actually, I think his lightning is blue in justice league and suicide squad, because its the color of the speed force. And his lighting is still blue in this movie,when he makes the cushion fort. So yes, it's because of the suit. The new suit allows him to dissipate the energy he charges up, so that same process must turn the lighting yellow. While other Barry doesn’t have this suit, so his lighting is still the color of the speed force.
Crap bag asks, “Why young Barry didn't stop the shovel from falling and making noise?” Because he is an idiot.
Baitha na on youtube asks, “Why would they think that one kryptonian that just got their powers could defeat another kryptonian that had at least a day more exposure to the sun and militarily training?” Yeah, you’re right. They should have just given up and never tried.
Nah but seriously, they had to do something. And kara had been on earth for a while, so that explains how she could adapt so fast. She did…really get the hang of her powers quick though.
Brude Lau says, “Why did they have to find KAL-EL after restoring Barry’s speed ? Cause imagine that That don’t make NO SENSE.”
Doug: Yeah, that don;t make any sense.
Niegher does the question. Obviously you know why they had to find kal-el…maybe you’re asking why they waited till after finding him to restore bary’s powers. Barry was trying to make events go the way they did in his world, where Superman defeated Zod. and Remember, Barry was useless at the battle of metropolis. I think he only tries to get his power back after because they’re ot even sure if Kara is going to help them.
Andrew Dickens says, “Even if the dad was at the store he was still there very close like not even 20 seconds to when she was stabbed so it still could be him. He was at the store when it was pinned on him and he was at the store when he came and found her having just been stabbed - it proved nothing.”

[@ScreenCrush]

Any questions we missed?

[@daveythesearcher]

How's it hanging Ryan? I always enjoy your breakdowns. Cheers bruv

[@Imthesoulofthes]

He doesn’t care lol 😂

[@sandrawilson157]

How didn't Nora recognize Barry in the supermarket at the end ??

[@naddy7352]

when you explain kraven the hunter? i wanna know him

[@DJMarcO138]

How much Ritalin did you take today?

[@JNel77]

Barry did do the whole “phasing his hand through the chest” thing to one Kryptonian during the battle. It was actually pretty cool and unexpected

[@leokang6841]

And completely destroying the fact that Barry Allen doesn’t kill. Though I liked the scene where two Barrys phasing through a wall and showing the inner part of the molecules vibrating.

[@JNel77]

@@leokang6841 I choose to believe that he merely incapacitated the Kryptonian 😆 Yeah, the wall phasing scene was cool 👍🏾

[@tigerlancer]

I don't know how the flash brothers thought that the zod kryptonians were unbeatable. Even newb Barry stumbled and bumbled his way into accidentally stabbing faora ul to death. Like you said, original Barry phased his hand into another kryptonian guy's chest, cw reverse flash style. Also, the flashes weren't fighting a super OP kal El from ZSJL. They were fighting a bunch of kryptonian purists that didn't like to leave their own home planet and refused to take advantage of the powers that the yellow sun gave them. Also, with some batman prep time, Barry could have told Keaton about green kryptonite and red sun rays weakening kryptonians and canceling their abilities. But it looks as if, in this movie's set rules, kryptonian physiology is affected by any sort of kryptonian weapons and metals originating from krypton, much in the same vein that earthly humans are affected by earth guns and steel metal blades. As long as the flashes have the element of surprise, they could have phased their hands or kryptonian metals into zod's team and turned their brains and hearts into so much mashed potatoes and omelets. Since the usa army were in the desert and getting slaughtered by the dozens, you would think Martian manhunter would break cover and start protecting the humans, but I guess earth was destined to lose, for the sake of the script. Thus, proving Martian manhunter is a chicken shit in every alternate universe. SMH. 🙄

[@linkdk59]

@@leokang6841 Well that Barry was obviously on a darker path already. This was on purpose, to let the audience know what's up

[@senordd]

@@tigerlancer Basically, it’s a fixed point in time in that universe. No matter what he did, he was destined to lose

[@michaelcoles6203]

The most realistic part of this movie is how the cops locked a dude up because they were too lazy to go to the grocery store to get a copy of his receipt.

[@familynerf]

They may have erased daily. most small shops had crappy video systems, if any in 2013

[@giabaonn600]

@@familynerfit’s not 2013. 2013 is when Barry is 18. More like 2005 cuz Barry mom died when he was around 5 yo

[@michaelcoles6203]

@@familynerf Erased receipts daily? The IRS would not be happy about that.

[@michaelcoles6203]

@@giabaonn600 And I guarantee grocery stores kept records of purchases of canned tomatoes in 2008 also

[@Twenty3SkeeDu]

how would a receipt help? they put names on it?

[@andrewshandle]

Batfleck's "knowledge" of time travel was the basic stuff anyone who's read fiction/watch movies would know. On the other hand, Keaton not only had complete knowledge of how time travel _actually_ worked, he seemed to have distain for anyone who believed it worked like it does in Back to the Future when he's explaining fulcrums and why Barry changed the distant past.

[@REALTALKMARS]

But why

[@andrewshandle]

@@REALTALKMARS exactly. In the video Ryan says that Ben Affkeck also knew implying some sort of equivalency, but there wasn't. Keaton knows _way_ more than Batfleck so it's a big plot hole.

[@REALTALKMARS]

How would Going back in time to one moment make a mf turn into an older mf like .... Warner Brothers wtf. It seems like they only hire hack ass writers who have discovered comic books exist like GLORILLA discovered foxes

[@certifiedchaos4643]

@@andrewshandlehe’s 70 🤣🤣🤣

[@Hydro0223]

Actually he was just explaining multiverse theory. Like Dragon ball Z except he had the theory “if its another timeline then the past will likely be different too”

[@ThePower1000]

If Barry technically isn’t in his universe anymore, this could possibly give opportunity for Wally West to become the Flash. How he would do that, I have no idea.

[@leisuregaming2954]

That's what I'm hoping for

[@derangedking117]

I really enjoyed this video, very informative. I’d love a part 2 to this because I love all this multiverse stuff and getting all the details really adds to the movie. Also I like the snyderverse so another video on it would be great before it’s inevitably forgotten/ not talked about once the DCU is in full swing

[@xxreyoxx]

15:51 lmao! That was a great lil cameo question from Paul the HeavySpoilers guy

[@malcolmtaraporewala9932]

The only reason that the security footage in the grocery store was all blurry was because there were two flashes unleashing so much electromagnetic interference by running around in there ... Essentially Barry doomed his father to be accused

[@dudeonthemoon3290]

Well yeah ig but even when Bruce fixed it, his dad didn’t look up so couldn’t see his face

[@onlyrxby]

Wouldn't his dad be picking up a can of tomatoes since his mom didn't get them in the first place, and Barry only went to whenever his mom was grocery shopping in time?

[@malcolmtaraporewala9932]

@@onlyrxby yeah but during that interaction the cameras circuits were fried by Barry's earlier visit so when his dad came it was already not working

[@michaelcoles6203]

They don’t need video. They go to the store and pull up the receipt proving he brought what he said he bought when he said he bought it. Remember, cops used to solve crimes before video.

[@Twenty3SkeeDu]

@@michaelcoles6203 how does that work if he paid cash? does tomatoes bought around the same time window count as alibi?

[@mikelgrillo3378]

I don't think Barry was so much concerned with proving who killed his mother as proving that his father did not. That was his whole focus.

[@Littlescienceguy]

I think saying that Barry was useless in the Battle of Metropolis is a little harsh. Even though he couldn’t get to his dad, he did still save that kid. 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

[@JustAnotherBlader]

Thousands of people died, so saving 2 people is like a fraction of a percent.

[@stellaragent3787]

He really said "🤬 you Paul" with a straight face, that was the best. 😂😂😂

[@psytron939]

I loved this movie, even with plot holes and weird CGI. IM really happy we FINALLY got a flash movie, but its not like I care if Ezra gets recasted and they just restart the whole thing with a new Barry, in fact I encourage it. Sad they ddint tease reverse flash but hopefully they can start with that with a new Barry

[@lanalan4157]

Thrash flop movie

[@dbog5214]

​@@lanalan4157to each his own

[@phoule76]

recast is the past participle of recast

[@Ailwuful]

I have no beef with what actors do in their lives, I'm just here for the movie. Ezra did a great performance.

[@dbog5214]

@@Ailwuful tottaly agree.

[@traderrohan]

Don't understand why critics are trashing this movie , totally loved it, nice interpretation of the multiverse.

[@LonewolfOfSD]

I thought the other universes existed before Barry and other Barry really started messing everything up further. They seemed to be spread out and then sucked towards each other, like the Barry's chrono-bowl became some sort of multiverse destroying singularity. We initially saw two of those universes collide, but they separated and "healed" after other Barry died. So the multiverse is actually a mix of spaghetti strings and meatballs...?

[@Jasmin-lg3gf]

I would also say that the other spheres were other universes and NOT alternate timelines. Alternate timelines aren't the only kind of alternate universes.

[@Jasmin-lg3gf]

It was also shown in the Flash series that all of these alternate universes exist. And each of these universes has its own range of alternate timelines.

[@wecantcontroltime]

its just inconsistent writing .

[@Flipitmixit]

Yup, he's tripping

[@kid9046]

😅😅well whatever the cases be, that version of supergirl doesn't exist no more.

[@marioq8395]

Ideally James Gunn would have just come in and do a hard reset and just said they are starting from scratch. Movies like Flash and Aquaman 2 being delayed due to Covid and other factors made it a bit messy to go from one universe to another. I was hoping Flash would give us a better explanation for a reset like the comics but they didn't see to have a way to do that with what was already filmed.

[@GodBroly]

Except it’s not just the chemicals you can see young Barry touch him and a spark of speed force reaches out to old Barry which restarts his connection

[@DVidamuerte]

Thank you! Kara zapping him with lightning twice did nothing. But as soon as younger Barry gave a little speed force spark, he started healing.

[@pgkrzywy]

yeah that’s what I thought also :)

[@bayleyaustin2202]

The way they portrayed how he moves people angered me lol. In the comics he has a protective aura that protects him and whatever or whoever he’s touching from the effects of moving at super speed. He can also turn this ability on or off to hurt opponents. Thawne can actually turn it off with other speedsters. He did it to Jay Garrick recently and syphoned his protective field while he was running and Jay burned up from the friction. I was kinda bummed the movie didn’t hit on it. I think the show did at some point. Hence why he could also put other people in Flash time when he was

[@FernandezF13]

🤣Spaghetti is a trigger word for the man in blue, I would not have guessed that. Thank you for taking the time to hit the questions it is fun to dive deep lets just remember to come up for air!♥

[@varunsatish101]

I interpret barry not learning his lesson and saving his father in the end as being a reflection of human behaviour. We always repeat the same mistakes in one way or another which eventually leads to the same outcome. Barry here tried to change the lesser of the two evils he had( saving his mom and his dad in the process or not being able to save his mom and lose both of them) , so he chose to atleast be able to not lose his dad. I personally didnt have a gripe with it as showing these heroes as not perfect really makes them more relatable than making superheroes seem like ppl who can never do anything wrong and will never repeat mistakes.

[@death_au]

I think you're wrong about the events of this movie having created Adam West Batman, et el. Those universes are colliding due to the damage Barry is causing, but they always existed separately. We even see Jay Garrick in his own chrono ball changing his own timeline. Perhaps the Keaton Batman universe we see in this movie was created by Barry's meddling, but that doesn't mean they all were. Hell, there are probably other Batman '89 universes out there as well

[@lancemaness5519]

I really don’t understand the hate for this movie. I smiled ear to ear the whole time.

[@haljordan777]

Some people are stupid and/or their hearts are full of hate.

[@RX552VBK]

The film was a convoluted mess.

[@ChrisTookFlight]

Snyder cult, Marvel fans and Ezra Miller haters 😭 honestly the movie was set up to fail even tho it was really good.

[@silenthero2795]

Because you're not the only one who can hold an opinion.

[@wokenbrilliance9034]

Because it’s easier to hate..and it’s more fun I can make one hate comment towards the movie and get like 20 replies

[@valentinfranco6396]

OK, but the issue in regards to Barry’s dad and the store still doesn’t make sense. His dad was about to walk in the front door… You could see him on the front lawn outside of the window walking towards the house when the mom suddenly screams and he runs inside to find that she’s been stabbed. So regardless of whether he went to the store or not, he was still at the house at the time of the stabbing.

[@stickist]

Yes, Yes, Yes! Exactly what I've been saying. Tomatoes high or low does not matter. Dad's face on video does not clear him. Dad arrives home at the same time in both timelines. All the police see in both timelines is that Dad is home with his hand on the knife. Tomatoes change nothing. A store receipt or eyewitness from the store who saw Dad or a still-warm car engine does not matter to the police.

[@Darkworldinc1313]

In the movie, it shows his Dad pulling up and getting out of the car when he hears his wife screaming because of the attack. He can't be in the driveway and in the house killing her at the same time.

[@daffashofwanp.s5525]

Professor Zoom and Zoom is not the same person, Zoom is hunter zolomon (the one with black glass lenses), while professor Zoom is better known as reverse flash/eobard thawne and he's the one who killed nora allen

[@Blacktears999]

Thank u

[@xxreyoxx]

Yes thank you. He confused the two.

[@dbog5214]

Who's the evil flash in the movie? I heard they call him sabotar or what ever.

[@xxreyoxx]

@@dbog5214 i thought it was Savitar as well. But "Dark Flash" will do i guess.

[@daffashofwanp.s5525]

@@dbog5214 it's a dark flash version of the movie, but it have similarities to CW's savitar, that's why people calls him that

[@Wooshey_Wooj]

14:05 that’s what I always feel like when I watch movies like this. There’s like a eerie feeling that they still lost if that makes any sense. Like nothing was accomplished. Just made worse. I’ll because the metaled with time. Imagine something like this happening to you and then coming back to the present just to see a whole bunch of different people being the new versions of your love ones.

[@haljordan777]

3:02 In response to that question, why would Zod think that a Kryptonian that just got his powers could defeat another Kryptonian who had at least 9,000 more days exposure to the sun?

[@Aikut03]

18:05 Ya i also thought of the same word - BADASS Atlantians vs Kryptonians 😢 We missed it. Would have been the perfect flashpoint adaptation!!

[@kojikabuto8426]

Why would having his father home prevent his mothers death if he were home would it be that both of them get killed instead???

[@JoshDaGreat16]

Yes. Barry doesn’t even try to figure out the motive of why his mother was murdered. Not at all.

[@michaelkaggwa4915]

@kojikabuto8426 the killer thought that there was no body left as home after the Father went to a store so to enter and steal and that is when he killed the mother

[@kojikabuto8426]

@@michaelkaggwa4915 well that is a question of many why didnt barry even find out who the killer is first if it is just a simple burglar then having his father might scare him away what if it was something else like a reverse flash he did not even try to find that out

[@321jono]

I could be totally wrong, but I'm prettttyyyyy sure that somewhere in the comics, it's been explained that the speed force actually protects people from harm while the Flash moves. Explaining why he can catch people falling from building and stuff, without snapping their necks. Could have been in the N52, or another era of comics, but I remember that being a thing. I didn't even notice he couldn't touch people until you said it in this video lol.

[@hothotheat3000]

I just wanna know why Kara’s English is so good if she was in Mother Russia her whole life.

[@bondons237]

She was on a ship to earth I'm assuming it was programmed to teach her the knowledge she needed when she landed.

[@HustleWorldEnt1]

Dammit Paul! 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣🤣 🍝 What is Spaghetti? He must've thought this is Jeopardy! 15:54

[@peterlenham3180]

I dont think Barry creates those realities, I think they already exist. Its possible that other Barry's from other realities also create those realities with all their time travelling. Or these realities just exist already. I think its best to leave it open to interpretation.

[@thezeek2745]

Nope

[@peterlenham3180]

@@thezeek2745 Like I said, open to interpretation.

[@madhurdhingra4525]

​@@peterlenham3180I think it's like the Schrodinger thing - if the cat lived ( in this universe ) then it died in another . So every time travel choice is a ripple that creates them.

[@peterlenham3180]

@@madhurdhingra4525Possibly, like I said its open to interpretation.

[@marcosdheleno]

i think the movie showed that, those realities already existed prior to him messing in the chrono bowl, which is why we see them crashing into it as they continue to mess things up. if he was creating them instead, we would see them being created, possibly moving away from the chrono bowl.

[@affanshaikh8492]

Ok so, I think many people including Ryan are confused about the ending.... Barry accepted his fate! he accepted that his mother had to die and returned the canned tomatoes at it's original place. Look at his hands, they're pointing downwards, 4th shelf I think. he looked up because he knew there was a camera but he can't help his dad. he did not knew that his dad was going to be free... he just came back. Now what I think happened is, think of the chronobowl fulcrum as a ship navigating the ocean, 1 degree of slight turn and the whole course changes. Similarly when barry was going back in time for the first time to save his mom, dark flash pushed him out of the chronobowl, thereby changing his course. Also, if you remember, there was a baby in the shopping cart when barry first visited his mom, that baby was Crying. but when he went back in the end, that baby was Smiling, which kinda indicates that this is yet another timeline he's running back into

[@gabetimefilms]

i didnt realize the baby was smiling! Good eyes

[@manuelmendez6022]

Good observation. I think a lot of people hating on this movie just didn't get it.

[@marcosdheleno]

@@manuelmendez6022 wrong, i disliked it because i "got it". the movie is just dumb. it show time and time again things that it said wouldnt happen, happening. for example, it showed how even 1 of the flashes alone would be enough to kill every kryptonian there. he doesnt, it shows the 2 barry before they run back in time, after they return, meaning, they are still present during the fight. but for some reason, even though barry 2 returned thousands, if not millions of times, he could never win against zod? but he is shown comboing faora to death with ease? the movie is a mess.

[@sophiawilson8696]

@@marcosdheleno remember these Kryuptians weren't on Earth long they haven't develop their abilities as yet. But they fast and strong with suits on. Barry in meeting with Superman the first time was able to dunk and push an little.

[@andrewshandle]

Big plot hole is "Young Barry" goes from being an annoying clown, and after learning that "Old Barry" went back in time to save his mom and meeting Kara for like 2 minutes, he goes _hardcore_ the opposite direction and goes crazy screaming that nobody dies! Young Barry's personality shift in the third act is just bonkers.

[@ked49]

He was struck by lightning. You need to get checked out by a doctor. lightning changed some neural pathways

[@oscarortiz1529]

This could be easily explained through his lack of maturity. An 18 year old in some ways is still a kid in their mind. Kids can be impulsive, not take things seriously, and throw tantrums. All things young Barry did

[@johndinh2913]

I mean… when you realize that your other times line’s mom died and he went back to fix it, I’m sure it’s slap in the face to realize how serious things are

[@sewison7990]

​@@johndinh2913excellent point

[@Hydro0223]

He didn’t get the powers from the sky he got it from the lightning from past Barry. This is based on The comics where future Barry ran so fast that he became the lightning that gave him his speed.

[@j.j.q1379]

For the keaton question and why he was a hermit? Someone mentioned that bruce needed Alfred to make sure he was eating, taking care of himself. Alferd was a father figure to him. And since he died there was no one to make sure of that anymore, and when you lose everything i think you would be a hermit too. Plus Gotham was safe. And he didn't have a reason anymore to care. ( plus the actor who was Alfred died in real life,) so this is actually the best answer to that.

[@fatrunner]

The cctv footage showing Barry's dad would not be enough to prove his innocence because in the flash back you see him walk up the driveway just as Barry's mum screams. So time wise he could have easily killed her still.

[@samtheram210]

Exactly, idk why he didn’t mention this.

[@Tri-Fi.Guy.3]

Maybe it took dad a bit longer to find the can because they were moved. This could have caused him to arrive home later then what originally happened.

[@Lakerlova83]

Best breakdown channel!! Big ass fan of you and Doug! Keep up the great content!

[@kryptonson]

He didn't create the Adam West Batman. The Adam West Batman was one of the Batmen that was shown in the scene of the multiverse. They all already existed in other universes, he just was able to see them.

[@stellaragent3787]

Nope... he definitely created all of DC that we've seen bud, how do you not understand this...?

[@kryptonson]

@@stellaragent3787 I understand it much better than you apparently. It was the multiverse, it was already in existence, but since Barry was messing things up so much it was causing incursions and other universes we starting to be affected. It’s really not hard to understand.

[@stellaragent3787]

@@kryptonson apparently not champ you literally just tried to pull some bs out your ass smh, I would say nice try but we both know it wasn't...

[@SuperCisMan]

It really could be either or. BUT if you've watched the screen crush videos about this film, stellaragent3787 is correct, When Barry went back in time he created more universes and timeliness, which are likely the ones we see in the movie.

[@kryptonson]

@@SuperCisMan he did, but that doesn’t mean that others weren’t already in existence. And most of what was seen was preexisting in real life anyway, it seems like they just gained access to other universes as well as possibly creating more themselves.

[@BibekGhosh88]

Wow!!! that's some deep research you did there.... thank you

[@jacobholly2096]

My question is why couldn't they make young Barry eobard Thawne in disguise if I remember correctly the reverse flash in the comics changed his face to make himself look like Barry to confuse everyone, couldn't they have done that with young Barry/eobard to show a different way he gets flash powers as well which is why young Barry in the movie ends up crazy and angry .

[@srka42]

Not sure if Barry insomuch as created new universes but created momentary portals / bridges / windows into other timelines as they already existed given the explanation door time travel the movie gives. The “TV” verse represented by 50’s Superman w/ CW Jay Garrick / Zolomon as it’s core Flash (weird ik) 80’s Superman Movie Verse & A New “Elseworld” Verse w/ Nic Cage as one of it’s Supermen. Those timelines were out there already, and I’d like to think The Flash gives room to interpret they’re still out there with a Infinite Multitude of Crisis level stories to tell. Love your channel.

[@Eldritch-1]

He's Batman... a genius intellect in any universe.

[@anthonycolon5138]

With the explanation of how time travel works, does that mean that barry can never get back to his original reality? Once you create other variants of Barry, arent they free to also create their own futures?

[@blairco]

What I got from it is as soon as he interacts with a previous timeline he renders it null and void unless he came upon it the exact moment even a single atom of himself interacted with it. He would look around and change his perspective on X or Y and form an opinion then it all starts again.

[@cre8tivemediavault72]

Barry running forward with his legs moving in reverse still looks sooooo damn weird every time I see it! Why did they do that and who thought it looked cool enough to put into the movie?

[@SneaksBL]

I loved the video but I think the assumption that this movie would reveal the new Batman was the fault of some fans. They never said that would happen, which is why when the George Clooney scene happened I took it way better as just an inside. We gotta stop expecting things and just watch these films.

[@andycalmes4201]

Amen! 🙌

[@jaylerd]

I lowkeye enjoy every time Ryan says "Days of THE Future Past" like that's the title

[@ashimroy3891]

Sir, but the Flash Series says that Zoom was an orphan, named Hunter Zolomon who turned into a serial killer and on the night of his electrocution, he gets his powers due to the catastrophic failure of the Particles Accelerator experiment by Dr. Wells.

[@Vadakin597]

I think ryan got hunter zolomon and eobard thawne mixed up, thawne is the reverse flash who killed barry's mom and is barry's arch enemy ofc, he is called professor zoom while hunter is wally's arch nemesis called zoom

[@rashedulhaqueshimul]

He's talking about Professor Zoom, AKA Eobard Thawne. (Also Hunter Zolomon's origin in the comics is way different.)

[@ked49]

The cw show also called nazi reverse flash professor zoom. Comics both hunter and eobard go by reverse flash and some form of onomatopoeia

[@paulzbylut6770]

i laughed out loud at work, when you said fuck you paul! not only cuz i get the joke from watching his channel too, but my name happens to be paul as well 😂

[@grapeshot]

I remember in Batman & Robin. George Clooney's Batman said this is why Superman works alone so I guess there's a Superman in that Universe already.

[@peterlenham3180]

Or he was being sarcastic.

[@andycalmes4201]

@@peterlenham3180of course he was being sarcastic…but the fact that he’s aware of Superman means there is a Superman in that timeline

[@peterlenham3180]

@@andycalmes4201 Or he was just been sarcastic. No proof that Superman is around in his reality. It could just be comic book Superman in his universe.

[@andycalmes4201]

@@peterlenham3180 riiiiiight. There’s a comic book Superman. That’s logical

[@peterlenham3180]

@@andycalmes4201 Hows it any different than DC comics in the MCU? Eternals mentioned Superman, and that was supposed to be the comic book character in that film.

[@hallongview]

Could this also explain why Barry's dad looks different between the two movies, other than just being a simple recasting? He did go and Rewind time in Zack Snyder's Justice League twice

[@culchiefilms1791]

12:15 No Barry didn't create the multiverse. He almost destroyed it but he didn't create it. You could say he created Keaton's universe, or atleast the version of the Keaton's universe in this movie. Same with Clooney's universe, but that's it.

[@pgkrzywy]

yeah that’s my take also, we have to remember that Ezra’s Flash was in CW Barry’s universe in the Arrowverse Crisis crossover which ended the multiverse* *or so we thought :D

[@culchiefilms1791]

@@pgkrzywy Yup that's what I was thinking too. I was afraid to say it though incase someone tried saying that scene wasn't canon.

[@SuperCisMan]

How did "Dark Flash" punch Flash out of the chrono ball if Flash hadn't changed anything yet?? He didn't didn't save his mom, didn't meet younger Barry or give younger Barry his powers, etc. He didn't change a single thing yet! So how did Dark Flash even exist already??

[@sewison7990]

Truth

[@AceSpaceSpades]

I don't remember Zoom being the one to kill Barry's mom??? Wasn't it Reverse Flash in the series and also in Flashpoint?

[@ked49]

Professor zoom is eobard thawne. Zoom is hunter zolomon. Because professor zoom can school zoom

[@haljordan777]

Ryan got Professor Zoom mixed up with Zoom. In his defense, he smokes a lot of deathsticks.

[@qnzpapi1006]

The beef between heavy and Ryan is awesome

[@srayj]

Bruce can look different in different universes, even though he has the same parents, for the same reason you don’t look identical to your siblings. Only a specific sperm meeting up with a specific egg will create that exact genetic combination. So, even if the same parents give their genetic material to Bruce in different universes, the slightest deviation can result in the Batmen looking more like siblings than exact copies of each other.

[@linkdk59]

I don't even think it's the same parents though. That wasn't Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Lauren Cohan was it? (i am not sure actually, but it looked like an old timey photograph)

[@4891MR]

Michael Keaton is 71. Robert Pattinson is 37. Adam West would have been 95. I don't see how it could always be the same parents.

[@ultimatewall-crawler5292]

@@linkdk59No, the parents were different. Batman explained his reality was merged with the Flash’s past due to changing the past.

[@marcosdheleno]

the problem is the movie doesnt explain it properly. the simple answer is, he hopped dimensions when he returns from a change in the past. let me ask you this, if he, instead of running back to the present, decided to stay in that timeline, would affleck morph into keaton? no he wouldnt, the reason he ended up in a present with a diferent reality is because he changed a point at a "crossroad". where multiple universes colide. and as he was push away, he ended in that particular variant. if someone came to our time, and shot, lets say, elon musk in the face, this wouldnt change our past. it wouldnt make bill gates the owner of apple, or make hitler black. what it would do, is make the person who did that, end up at a diferent reality than the one he left off.

[@4891MR]

@@marcosdheleno If time travel is possible, then it's inevitable that it will be used in the future. And if your past had already been altered by time travelers from your own future, then changing your past would ripple into their lives and have a butterfly effect on any hypothetical number of previous existential dominoes.

[@MavenCree]

You: Trying to answer all of these questions about time travel. Every Doctor Who Fan: WIBBLY WOBBLY TIMEY WIMEY! (That's all you need to know!)

[@sadib100]

Henry wasn't a half hour away when Nora was stabbed. He was pulling up in the driveway.

[@himsoni85]

Yeah, I was wondering the same. The explanation from Ryan doesn't make sense. He was outside the house when she was stabbed and she died in his arms. So proving that he didn't do it based on the CCTV footage is impossible.

[@haljordan777]

@@himsoni85 The footage only proves that he went to the store to get tomatoes. Something his receipt would have proved. Plus there should have been register CCTV footage. What store has CCTV in the aisles, but not at the checkout/register?

[@Skyrus646]

I would assume She was killed when he was at the store. Post mortum can give the actual time frame of it happening.

[@sadib100]

@@Skyrus646 You don't need to assume. Just watch the movie.

[@jeffmaholland6509]

Two questions here… 1) this is the third time on film Barry time travels to change something. First, slightly reversing time to be able to charge the motherbox at the moment it hits the water…and then to reverse time again at the end of the movie after he tripped trying to build up enough power. So are these creating different timelines too? 2) This one hurts my head, but probably just filmmakers ignoring continuity… The Flash movie has Barry-1 taking Barry-2 to the crime lab to recreate the accident that gave him powers. BUT in Justice League, Barry already has his powers before getting “basically the lowest job you can get at the crime lab”. So how did he get his powers if he didn’t work in the crime lab?

[@ked49]

1 that was time dilation so no new timelines 2 he was going for a degree in a related field. He asked “hey, I’m interested in csi work can I have a tour” the once they let him tour he starts touching everything including the chemicals

[@chiefnochillsteph4146]

This movie has some good surprises like young Barry making our Barry more likeable, credit to Ezra for playing opposite himself and really pulling it off. I thought it was awesome that they turned him into reverse flash. Other than that they executed these ideas half-assed-ly, and chose weird cgi and cheap marvel copying. Why do we all know that DC has the better ideas as far as what we want to see live action but can't trust anybody to get DC right outside of a Batman solo? I appreciate that Ryan didn't do as much to protect/defend this movie even though he gave them more excuses they deserved.

[@kooliokatz2540]

Gotta admit it, after all these years being a massive flash fan, it was surreal watching a flashpoint live action movie on the big screen

[@bebopman5]

I find it hilarious they did a referential “this is how time travel works, not how it’s usually perceived” scene trying to debunk the time travel logic from Endgame, but they end up doing basically the same thing in a different font.

[@Yoda_Saint_Cloud]

Supergirl wasn’t n infant when she left Krypton. She was already training with her mother to be a warrior. She knew about her abilities under a yellow sun. Clark on the other hand, had no idea about his powers until they start manifesting. That’s why she popped out of her cell and was instantly wrecking shop. She knew she could do those things. She was sent to Clark to protect him…..with her powers….

[@molefemashiane]

Having Clooney as Bruce at the end was a HUGE injustice to Battfleck

[@shad0wf1sh74]

If Zoom was Barry's mom's killer then why did he need Barry's dad out of the house to do it? Zoom can move so fast he appears invisible so he easily could have done it in a room full of people. Also, Zoom would have wanted Barry's dad to be present to be framed for the murder as it adds to Barry's hunt for justice which creates the Flash. We know Barry's dad being at home prevents the mom from being killed so either it wasn't Zoom or it's inconsistent writing.

[@ked49]

Without Barry Allen as the flash professor zoom doesn’t exist

[@culchiefilms1791]

Well as soon as Barry went back in time, he changed the future and the past. That new timeline was now destined to be destroyed by Zod in 2013 meaning there no longer is a future for Reverse Flash to travel back from

[@shad0wf1sh74]

@@culchiefilms1791 True, but still very likely the original person who killed Barry's mom still killed her, which of the movie intended it to be Zoom is laughably improbable. The idea Zoom would be deterred from killing Barry's mom is as weak as the spaghetti sauce Batman was making

[@haljordan777]

@@shad0wf1sh74 You only think that because you understand Professor Zoom's motive for killing Nora about as well as Barry understood time travel. Zoom's true goal is Barry's dad being arrested for Nora's murder so that Barry becomes the Flash. If Zoom killed Barry's dad then Barry won't become a forensic scientist in the hope of getting his father out of prison. His father would be dead, not in prison so Barry doesn't become the Flash and Zoom doesn't get his powers. Zoom killing both of Barry's parents would create a Grandfather paradox. He doesn't get his powers so he couldn't go back in time to kill Nora in the first place.

[@shad0wf1sh74]

@@haljordan777 not saying he would kill Flash's dad, having Henry arrested is a big part of Zoom's plan as it causes Barry to become a CSI looking to exonerate his dad rather than just being a vigilante to avenge his mom. What I'm saying is Barry's dad being home prevented Nora's death as seen in the Keaton timeline. If Zoom was the one who killed he would have done it regardless if Henry was present as he could have been in and out faster than the eye could see and would have left Henry to take the blame. The fact that Henry being Home prevented Nora's death was a pretty good indicator it wasn't him...... P.S. never challenge my comic book knowledge 😂

[@sergneo]

This has to be one of the Best videos I’ve seen on time travel in regards to comics.. 😎😎😎😎😎

[@jamesvaughn7477]

Does this film open the possibility of Ezra Miller being replaced as the Flash?

[@mrbluesky4838]

Very much so

[@ked49]

Yes

[@oscarortiz1529]

Yep. Ezra flash ended in a timeline with Clooney Batman who we know is not going to be Batman in Gunns DCU. The new onscreen flash will be someone else in the new universe

[@TheRealReVeLaTioN]

On behalf of Paul, “Shut the #@$& up Ryan Arey!” 🤣🤣🤣

[@REDDEVIL9269]

That opening scene was weird and very unneeded the rest of the film was really good

[@BrotherMag]

Lol the Cgi babies

[@minimoe2807]

Agree, it was actually kinda distracting

[@balthazarasquith]

I bet Miller insisted there be babies in it. Honestly if to catch a predator was still about it wouldn't take long to get to Miller 😂

[@TacoYoMaMa]

I liked it, showcased his powers plus it was so goofy that it was fun imo do.

[@AlSween]

Nothing was wrong with the scene.

[@PopeyeBjj86]

😂😂 That heavy spoilers bit 😂😂

[@gregr3720]

People ask dumb questions. It's like they have to be spoon-fed every detail. I liked George Clooney as Batman /Bruce Wayne. It was the movie that sucked. I saw "The Flash" and I liked it. It was a good movie. The CGI didn't bother me. It was alright. People just like to bitch about everything. Like they're experts themselves.

[@sleinadb]

CGI never bothers me...and you have to have some suspension of disbelief to enjoy superhero genre movies. But if a good bit of your audience has so many questions about the mechanics of your movie and story telling, you might need to think about that as a filmmaker. I enjoyed the movie...but I walked out if the theater with the same comment as Ryan. Cut the multiverse time travel stuff if you can't do it better. It also takes away stakes. Oh, Batman died? Let's just go grab a new one! I get it...this allows characters to go on infinitely. But they have done that already without muddling up the water with time/universe travel shenannigans.

[@syang670]

Michael Keaton "Bruce" mention that Gotham is at peace, which is why he didn't dawn the cape anymore.

[@BrotherMag]

Who else cringed when the teenager said "i love you ?" It reminded of erza's real life grooming charges 😮

[@ianlau6950]

it reminded me of the fan ezra choked in that one video, thought that was gonna happen lol

[@BrotherMag]

@@ianlau6950 ooo so much worse. Lol

[@jordanbomb32]

I went in Ezra charges KZbin hole after the movie 😂 it's so awkward and creepy and sad when he offers to punch out the fan that's nervous to take a photo. What a way to needlessly ruin your image over a photo. He must have been really stoned on something strong to be that aggressive. That coupled with his already potent mental disorder

[@izzyr9590]

I love how most of these questions are just stupid nitpicks or pure blind and ignoring the actual movie…

[@rubendevereaux6086]

Why can't people just enjoy movies at face value anymore? Yes they're going to be plot holes in things that don't fit, but that's just the way movies are

[@nicholassemelak6224]

Spoiled people. Everyone knows everything now

[@Lksongbyrd]

What an L take

[@laminnabam2752]

That's a very stupid statement.

[@wvttie]

Because when the plot holes are big as hell then of course were gonna notice

[@Thereferenceguy2001]

You must be new around here

[@kiddprofit2500]

“Is he trying to hack that computer with a flip phone?” *❌DENIED *❌DENIED

[@idioticfun1901]

Zoom got scared seeing Barry's dad, pissed his pants superfast and ran away.

[@DefConprime28]

@18:16 this was also answered in the TV show sliders why Jerry connell's character was a girl and a different version of himself I used to call it the pizza paradox. If I give you dough cheese and tomato sauce what can you make immediately everybody says pizza, I say calzone. Proving that you're getting the same product just cooked differently or made differently with the same ingredients Therefore it's why you can have multiple looking different Batman etc etc and why Grant gustinson and Ezra millican both be flash

[@sophiawilson8696]

I remember that show, it was different universes. The different between you been born a female or male. Is one x ineast of 2 xx. A male have X and Y.

[@linkdk59]

Wow, great video! You even answered some of my own questions.

[@michaelgeral9397]

Its amazing how industrial accidents usually leave people injured or die. Super power by chemicals and electricity is so far fetched.

[@DariusSayers]

Did you miss the whole part where Bruce told Barry he'd destroy everything, and then Barry deduced that if he only made a small change it wouldn't have a massive effect on things?

[@sneakernickel]

Older Barry does phase during battle in the desert...just before he tells young Barry that he's "got this."

[@lykanbluepaws]

Mr Destiny was actually Released in 1990, love your work though man never stop being so awesome.

[@ked49]

To everyone complaining about him “saying the wrong speedster” and that “reverse flash killed Nora Allen not zoom” I have some news for you I have to admit I have never picked up a comic of any kind but I do have a general knowledge of comics so my wording may be off. As well as when everyone donned their different personas. At one point in dc’s history flash put a spare suit of his in a time capsule set to be opened on the far future. In the far future a low level villain known as The Professor witnessed the opening of the time capsule and became obsessed with the red and yellow suit. He steals it and runs some experiments. His experiment revealed it has some fast moving particles containing an unknown energy. He synthesizes a new speed force. His experiment also happened to reverse the colors of the flash’s suit. He donned the suit and added the onomatopoeia for fast onto his villain name and traveled back in time to meet his idol, the Flash. He did like that the hero he idolized wasn’t like he thought and declared himself the flash’s opposite a reverse if you will. Now onto a different man. The life of this second man is surrounded in tragedy. His parents were far from the best. This drove him to study psychology and the criminal mind. He had a girlfriend who was involved with a case. He didn’t know that there was a supervillain involved with the case and was fired from his job after his girlfriend’s father died from this oversight. The case left him with a bad knee. He then had is spine shattered by a telekinetic gorilla. He begged his only friend to go back in time to save him from his injury. After the flash refused he broke into the cosmic treadmill to go back himself. It gave him the power to slow down time. He named himself an onomatopoeia for fast because he can walk again after being paralyzed for so long and tried again to get the flash to help him. After flash refused he decided his existence to making sure the flash has suffered as much as he had because flash would come out the other side a better hero. So he called himself the reverse flash because he wants flash to suffer and aliviate his own thus reversing their lives. One of these men is named Hunter Zoloman, one is named Eobard Thawne. If these two one killed a flash’s unborn twins via energy blast to flash’s pregnant wife. And the other bullied the child version of a flash leading to the point he kills flash’s mom. Now you the commentators are who are mixing these three aspects of both characters up. Not screen crush

[@r01d2]

interesting how everybody who talking about "Bootstrap Paradox" try to explain what it is using any crazy metaphor except a Bootstrap

[@kylehicks9018]

Did Screencrush just publicly admit that the movie bombed because the Snyderverse fans didn't see it because it ended the DCEU? Stunning reveal.

[@Cerfpve]

This film had absolutely nothing on JL Flashpoint Paradox animated movie.

[@adamstewart9052]

18:18 The parents would probably look different as well, each Batman had their own parents, they don't all share the same versions.

[@JacobDean88]

You are such a good channel! Always well done!! Thanks for all the hard work!

[@EliotHochberg]

I think one thing that’s missing from the fulcrum time travel explanation is why the past would change. In this video, you mention a ripple effect that will go backwards, but that doesn’t quite sit right with me. Instead, the way that I’ve been thinking about it is that in order for the new future to exist based on the change that happen, it drags events from the past in order to line up. Innoway, it’s kind of like how magnets work in an electric motor. If they were permanent magnets in it, if you only make a very small change, then it’ll pop back to where it was, but if you make a large enough change, then it will snap to a new position where everything lines up again.

[@kinglibra6179]

"🤬 you Paul!" 😂😂😂 Best line ever!

[@freemantheartist]

Best cameo was Heavy Spoilers! :D

[@TPRES_74]

I had a lot of the same questions as most but realized it's just a Movie. Nothing more nothing less. We're not supposed to think that deeply because we actually have common sense.

[@4891MR]

I've got a question. They put Christopher Reeve in there to look all judgey at the Flash for time traveling. But would he really, when he did the same thing in his own first movie?

[@wolfgangdarkly]

8:50 In the DKR, it was partly the "peacetime" reason, but also the loss of Rachel. Watch all your videos, even the ones about films I have yet to see. It's all about Doug!

[@marcosdheleno]

16:35 wrong. the movie told us that barry isnt "changing the past", he is changing his return point. he is jumping dimension. the scene of in the chrono bowl proves that all universes exists at once. that means, his original reality still remains with his father locked up in jail, now having to deal with the fact his son is forever gone. that's the whole point of the spaghetti scene. its to show that, in fact everything is a mess meaning, he is jumping to a universe that is completely diferent from his original one. let me ask this, if he returns to the moment his mother bought the can of tomato, if he had stayed, would bruce wayne morph from a young affleck to an older keaton? of course not, that's because he ISNT changing the timeline, he is changing his return point.

[@TheRandompaint]

Thank goodness for rhe ONE camera in ghe grocery store pointing right there😂. You're telling me there were no other camers that could catch his face?

[@Make2wo]

If you think about how time travel work in the comics and the movies, Barry not actually fixing or resetting anything. What was created won’t be destroyed. Every time he travel, he’s actually creating a new timeline leaving the other timeline with those consequences. The first Supergirl and Keaton/Batman is still dead when he try to start over just to see another version of Supergirl and Keaton/Batman die. Just because The Flash left the timeline to enter another timeline, it doesn’t mean the previous timeline cease. In the comics it’s always perceived as the old universe change or disappeared, only for later to realize a version of that universe still exists.

[@jrausseo1]

Okay, when Barry saved his mom and started to travel back to the present, he was able to see the changes in the time stream, including memories of his new life. Why didn't this happen at the end of the movie when he moved the can of tomatoes? Shouldn't he have seen all the new memories with George Clooney?

[@MyNameBeeKayy]

So my understanding is that by the end, he's traded places with another flash that went on a similar flash point arc. Maybe Grant will be the new DCEU Flash lol but yeah Ryan's right. Multiverses are a mess, like everything is connected but anything that doesn't fit or make sense can be written off as a parallel existence. And it creates more head canon than sequential continuity. It would've been hilarious for Barry to make a Deadpool reference about how DC couldn't afford the other heroes. Thanks for the amazing content