The Neo-Noir Genre in Movies | Video Essay

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What are your favourite Neo-Noir movies?

[@stickwoodthebrand]

Has to be either Nightcrawler or Good Time!!

[@kimsanjiyeon6939]

Memento and Blade Runner 2049 for sure

[@Screened]

@@stickwoodthebrand I forgot about Good Time. Love that movie.

[@Dina8485]

Prisoners is great, since you mentioned it

[@Screened]

@@kimsanjiyeon6939 Yeah Memento is top tier. Blade Runner 2049 is a wonder to look at.

[@rhythmoriented]

So many neo-noir films have aged well. Just from the past decade Nocturnal Animals, Drive, Nightcrawler and You Were Never Really Here got better on second watch and subsequently.

[@Screened]

You Were Never Really Here has to be one of my favorite Joaquin Phoenix roles

[@cory5014]

Under the Silver Lake is really underrated imo

[@rhythmoriented]

@@cory5014 yes! Both Under the Silver Lake and its cousin Inherent Vice NEEDED to be rewatched in order to pick up all the hidden nuggets. Great stuff.

[@Zaz5y]

I love all those movies, but would also include Prisoners, Upgrade, Looper, and Blade Runner 2049 on the list too.

[@EvilDogFilmsOfficial]

Definitely my favorite genre!

[@EarthtoAdam95]

My all time favourite genre of film. They’re real, gritty, and don’t play it safe or guarantee a happy ending.

[@davidmitchell-baker1701]

Memories of Murder is one my favourite neo-noirs of all time: three perfectly written detective characters who exists on a spectrum from good cop to bad cop, but as the psychological toll of the murders takes its effect on them, they all move across this spectrum and their behaviour and livelihoods are forever changed, especially as they all lose something along the way. It's shot and scored in such a classical, evocative fashion that reminds me of the great neo-noirs of the past, and it's damn hilarious too. An all time great.

[@Screened]

And that drop kick.

[@davidmitchell-baker1701]

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[@GDRiyu]

Hai... im looking for a movie, something like a detective who chase the suspect/murderer but he can’t solve it... until he want to say a farewell to someone he knew.. he offer cigareet/lighter and his friend received it with different hand (probly a lefthand man) and the detective revealed the suspect... I just wonder n curious what is the movie... my lecture told me that, but he cant remember the title, he just mention “a classic movie” Anyone know about it? Thanks :)

[@sifatshams1113]

One of the most unique and underrated subgenres is the dark comedy. Not just films with cheeky violence (Deadpool, Pulp Fiction) or goofy gore (Shaun of the Dead, Ready or Not), but films that hint at the true darkness of human beings beneath thick layers of satire and/or a deceptively light tone. Films such as: The King of Comedy Kind Hearts and Coronets In The Company of Men Election Citizen Ruth Crimes and Misdemenours The Heartbreak Kid (original) Flirting With Disaster Monsieur Verdoux Divorce, Italian Style Buffalo 66 Wag The Dog A New Leaf The Living Trilogy Unfaithfully Yours Ruby Sparks Under The Silver Lake Nurse Betty Your Friends and Neighbours

[@Screened]

That seems like an interesting theme to explore 👍

[@fennegvdgvd]

Two of my favourite movies probably go into this genre: American Psycho and Thank you for Smoking. Love this kind of movie but don't know many others, so thanks for the list:)

[@elijahalbiston]

King of Comedy is one of the best aged films I’ve ever seen.

[@ryllharu]

Brick (2005) is a really interesting entry into the genre. It does nothing to hide the fact that it is neo-noir, from the deliberately dated vocabulary and style of dialogue, to the character archetypes, and general framework that feels ripped right from the 1930s. But it circles around a very local, commonplace modern setting, a suburban high school. It makes the genre feel extremely relatable, while also using every one of its hallmarks in a very open manner.

[@TheEpicImpaler]

You could say... it subverted expectations

[@rayancedrichaddad1197]

When it comes to the Neo-Noir Film Genre, I'm Enthusiastic. Blade Runner, Drive, The Dark Knight, Taxi Driver, Chinatown, The Silence of the Lambs, Prisoners, Mystic River, Memento, Memories of Murder, Mulholland Drive, Shutter Island. Thanks for this Brilliant Analysis of this Cinematic Genre which will Inspire so many Masterpieces to come.

[@gabrielinostroza4989]

I think something that makes these movies resonate even harder is the fact that we live in the information age. Questing for the truth in a maze of contradictions and noise, finding it too tough and complex to fully accept or wrap our minds around and questioning who we are as a result has become the experience of every single person and not just the detectives. I wonder if a movie will ever tackle the anxiety of living in a world of fake news and algorithmic manipulation.

[@_scabs6669]

Great explanation, very poetic. Neo Noir movies are essentially noir films made in color, or since the advent of color. Instead of using light and darkness to create alarming visuals, they use jarring colors or neon light to achieve the same psychological effect

[@SonOfAlma]

okay here are my top 3 favourites neo-noir films not featured on this list with a short synopsis: 1) The Night Comes For Us (2018) - Stars Joe Taslim & Iko Uwias, an Indonesian martial arts action film about a gangland enforcer who kills his own men to save a little girl from being killed in a town he went to massacre. he then has all of them after him and his former crew. 2) Running Scared (2006) - A gritty crime action thriller staring Paul Walker, Vera Ann Farmiga & Johnny Messner about finding a runaway kid who just so happens to have a revolver on him that was used to kill a dirty cop. he needs to find the kid before the police do. it's also one of the few films to use shaky cam well. i know it sounds weird but filming the shootout scenes in this film like John Wick wouldn't work. 3: Wrong Turn At Tahoe (2009) - Stars Cuba Gooding Jr., Miguel José Ferrer, Harvey Keitel & Johnny Messner. A crime boss kills a drug dealer suspected of trying to kill him only to piss off another crime boss who the drug dealer was working for.

[@snitchbstudios]

I'm diggin' the new logo.

[@Screened]

Much appreciated 👍 I spent a bit of time on it

[@RocioCeleste.89]

I want to live in the aesthetic of Blade Runner and Oldboy. Somehow it reminds me of my childhood.

[@Screened]

Blade Runner definitely 👍

[@MCH-23.Quintus]

I'd love too but then I remember it's in the same universe than Alien so idk lmao

[@bobybot9320]

@@Screened That's strange how dystopic settings still find ways to be attractive to us, it's probably due to great movie makers

[@RocioCeleste.89]

@@MCH-23.Quintus 😂

[@jashardwallington]

@@MCH-23.Quintus wait what its in the same universe as alien

[@eop8151]

Gone Girl is such a great neo-noir. One of my all-time favorite movies!

[@pierrezapata90]

Finding a gem like this in youtube is a magnificent experience. Love these video essays

[@jakepulford6297]

Le Samouraï (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1967) I think it’s the earliest film I’ve watched that re-examines the noir formula.

[@joshuagregoire9504]

Isn't that regular noir?

[@gunmankhan8167]

Holy Shit! I was literally reseaching this genre for a book I'm writing and this pops up in my inbox. Maybe its a sign?

[@Screened]

Looks like a sign to me 🙃 Enjoy

[@domokato]

(psst, your searches are being tracked and fed into recommendation algorithms)

[@Theomite]

Say you're thinkin' about a plate of shrimp. And outta nowhere, somebody'll say "plate" or "shrimp" or "plate of shrimp" outta the blue, no explanation for it. No point in lookin' for one either. It's all part of a cosmic unconscious.

[@Spoeism]

or Google owns KZbin? As a fellow writer, we can't mistake algorithms for synchronicity ;)

[@julilolmo19]

The editing is top notch as always And the new logo is amazing Congrats

[@Screened]

Thank you very much 👍

[@Scarethelocals]

Park Chan Wooks "OldBoy" is either Neo-Noir or Noir, I'm no expert. I do know that, that movie was incredibly shocking and unforgettable. It wasn't edgelord bs or defined by it's shocking reveal. You feel what Dae su is going through. Hopeful and full of vengeance, then paranoid, manic, unsure as he falls down a rabbit hole. He's almost broken and you can feel everything before he's captivated and finds hope again... Maybe even love. Quickly it's all taken from him and revealed that all of the change he's gone through and the suffering he overcame to seek revenge... Was planned and the tables turn when he realizes he's on the other end of revenge. Then it feels like everything inside of you, through Dae su, is broken and everything you felt is wrong. It's almost impossible to reconcile, and it somehow goes further and it's a soul-stealing evil. I've never felt such despair, it's like losing all senses, and ability to talk, no arms, no legs and you're alone and immortal. He doesn't quit. He can't win but he refuses to lose and it's a very human ending. I probably butchered that but it's an experience and I've never been the same.

[@GreedyCorporation]

Bro you got some quality content, you deserve far more subscribers, nice work man👏👏👏

[@Screened]

Thank you 👍 Hopefully in time

[@GreedyCorporation]

Sure hope you do! So again thank you, keep it up!✊

[@greenakutabi]

Memories of Murder by Bong Joon-Ho, who gave us Parasite. It's my favorite Neo-Noir movie ever and honestly one of my favorites all time.

[@Screened]

Memories of Murder has the ability of just lingering with you

[@greenakutabi]

@@Screened It's been years since I've first seen it and I've never been able to shake it.

[@SNOWSOS]

I love these videos

[@Ashhley_the_shawty]

Looking at your content I'd have never guessed you were a guy into movie essays.

[@jothishprabu8]

Thanks for not spoiling anything :)

[@BingFox]

I'd like to give a shout out to animated films that I think are neo-noir, films like Felidae, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Metropolis (2001 anime), Ghost in the Shell, and Batman: Mask of the Phantasm

[@_scabs6669]

Original Film Noir movies were basically cheaper Westerns set in the cities. Instead of exploring the wild nature of man out in the wild west, you're exploring the vicious and corrupt nature of man which is the same in the urban setting. Both also rely heavily on "on-location" shooting. Also, the "detective"figure (who doesn't have to be a real police detective) is the same character as the lone cowboy, except he wears a fadora instead of a cowboy hat and rides a Cadillac not a horse. Both protagonists exist outside of standard morality, instead following their own code. Both usually have a drinking problem, or addiction of some sort. And just as the cowboy rides into town alone and rides off at the end alone, the neo noir protagonist does the same.

[@shazi1913]

The background ♬ ♪ ♫. The voice. The quality. And the time.... These things are so amazing to me, i Apreatice every second, watch a video 10-20 times to see everything, Thank you ♥‿♥💙🧡💚.

[@anisheshdas362]

This video made me cry for some reason! Seeing all those characters and their tragic stories, I guess.

[@carrier_wave6801]

Not sure if these would fall completely under the Neo Noir label, but as a lover of Noir style, I would add The Place Beyond the Pines, Inherent Vice, and Burning as some titles people with similar tastes might enjoy. My personal favorite is BR2049.

[@alanflaco2081]

Amazing. I love all these movies. If I had to choose one it would be 2049. It’s a world expanded on from the original that creates a possible reality almost like a warning. It’s intriguing to see a world like that.

[@ronaldeatman6603]

True Detective series is kinda up there.

[@andreluizazevedo479]

Chinese neo-noir movies are incredibly good! Looming Storm, Long Day's Journey Into Night, Cities of Last Things and Wild Goose Lake are great examples. Also i noted that just like the use of lighting, cigarettes are widely used in the genre, and i realized that they are a very efficient mood definer, any chance you can make a video about the usage of smoking in movies and what they can represent/accomplish?

[@cattycatalina]

Cannot tell you how excited I was for this video. As usual, you touched on everything and more. Thank you.

[@Screened]

Glad you liked it 👍

[@tzmrmoon2472]

Man your honesty the best

[@Screened]

Thanks we try 👍

[@marcc3514]

Body Heat (1981): 'You're kind of stupid. I like that in a man.' Kathleen Turner to Bill Hurt. A key line in the movie exploring the dark heart of human soul or in other words a great noir movie.

[@Maros_Mari]

Thank you for this inspirational essay. For anyone who loves this genre I would suggest some of my favs: Bladerunner, Delicatessen, Fallen Angels, Millenium Mambo, Chungking express, 2046, Sion Sono's work, Paprika, amongst others

[@benmelman9505]

Even though I consider myself to be a "horror junkie", I must say that neo-noir is THE most consistently high-quality AND enjoyable genre for me. But, it's a niche genre. And my favorite films blend elements of psychological horror/thriller with a noirish aesthetic or mentality. BLUE VELVET, AMERICAN PSYCHO, CAPE FEAR '91, THE KILLER INSIDE ME and even the first SAW movie (parts of it) qualify as "psycho-noir".

[@0x1337feed]

every single one of your videos is a treat. Thanks

[@Screened]

Enjoy 👍

[@suryakantpatre4812]

Thanks, the timing of this video is great because after two weeks I have a presentation in neo-nior cinema.

[@CouchEconomyTX]

Im not even a big film guy and yet I’m subbed to multiple film video essay channels

[@RoshDroz]

I guess Neo noir is one of my favorite genres without even realizing it since I've seen every single movie you discussed and I really don't watch many movies

[@GlennDavey]

I just realised Bill Burr has been reminding me of Joe Pantoliano for about 10 years

[@Screened]

Yes! I realized the same thing while rewatching Memento!

[@LukaSzent]

I used to think they were the same growing up. I was watching Baby’s Day Out like “hey, there’s that funny guy again.” 😂

[@sunriseraymusic]

Id go as far to say that even Netflix's daredevil, (with more action ofc) probably goes somewhere along the line of Neo Noir. I honestly never even thought of these cool movies and shows to be in the same category, Great Video.

[@prathamraina9445]

great video and dissection, referenced so many movies AND put them in the description, while giving a book to further deep dive. you're amazing!

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Glad you liked it 👍

[@midnightmosesuk]

A film which I don't think has been mentioned yet, it's a Chinese film called Black Coal, Thin Ice. It's a good example of neo-noir, in fact, I'd say its better than most.

[@janus1124]

The best neo-noir film of the last decade is without a doubt "Drive".

[@NoOne-uh9vu]

Not even close. There where better Neo Noir flicks all over the place. Even Refn's own Neon Demon is a more interesting take on the genre than Drive which was too formulaic and lacking depth or new angles. Watch the far superior 1978 "The Driver" from legend Walter Hill to understand why its copy cat "Drive" is nothing special.

[@NoOne-uh9vu]

@Sydney Barrett Yes, once you look past the deliberate cheese its a pretty inventive take on the genre and gets better with repeated viewings despite the expectation to the contrary

[@NoOne-uh9vu]

@Sydney Barrett If you mean the Argento Suspira I agree ;)

[@melanydelgado2019]

Neo noir is probably one of my favorite genres! Seven, The Usual Suspects, Nightcrawler are some of my favorites

[@GDRiyu]

Hai... im looking for a movie, something like a detective who chase the suspect/murderer but he can’t solve it... until he want to say a farewell to someone he knew.. he offer cigareet/lighter and his friend received it with different hand (probly a lefthand man) and the detective revealed the suspect... I just wonder n curious what is the movie... my lecture told me that, but he cant remember the title, he just mention “a classic movie” Anyone know about it? Thanks :)

[@bb1111116]

You covered some of my favorites; Chinatown, Taxi Driver, Blade Runner, Blue Velvet, Fargo, Se7en, The Usual Suspects, Memento, Mulholland Drive, Inception, Gone Girl. * I’d add; Blowup, Blood Simple, Body Heat, Mona Lisa, 12 Monkeys, The Crying Game, Basic Instinct, Dark City, Fight Club, Lost Highway, The Departed, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Watchmen, Looper, Shutter Island and the new Nightmare Alley. There is also comedy/neo noir; After Hours, The Big Lebowski, Inherent Vice.

[@corradoguglielmo1386]

your videos are so well-written

[@Screened]

Much appreciated 👍

[@greteb1951]

In my film studies class, we just finished momento and spoke about neo-noir. This can’t just be a coincidence.

[@Screened]

It's the mystery of the algorithm

[@xynystervolt]

Praise the algorithm

[@loganwelty7094]

Absolutely love the New-Noir. Some of the best movies in the last thirty years have come from this genre

[@Screened]

A lot of good movies to choose from 👍

[@mdee8784]

Brilliant commentary. Love this genre

[@fernan2342]

Tom Cruise as a villain was a welcome surprise

[@mayukh9536]

Great analysis as always. Thanks.

[@Screened]

Much appreciated 👍

[@danielflores2492]

Loved this video man first time watching your videos but you've earned a subscriber

[@Screened]

Welcome aboard 👍

[@mike4088]

Been following this channel since the cosmic horror vid. Always making good vids!

[@Screened]

Thanks for coming on board with us👍

[@do9138]

The best example of neo-noir is Body Heat. Director Lawrence Kasdan said it was inspired by the highly recognized film noir Double Indemnity. The plot for the first half of Body Heat is very similar to the plot of Double Indemnity. A man of questionable ethics is convinced to kill the husband of a woman he thinks he is in love with. The second half of Body Heat is very different from that of Double Indemnity, and of course the femme fatale of Body Heat survives. But the ending of the film Double Indemnity is very different from how the work ends in the novel, too .

[@SomnathBhattacharjeewwe]

This channel is highly underrated

[@shrimpflea]

Good video. You could go very deep with this genre. One correction: In Blade Runner Deckard's job was not to capture replicants, it was to kill them.

[@najeefulton9020]

Watched the whole playlist on "Doomed Romances" a couple days ago. Now this video on one of my favorite film genres, definitely hitting subscribe now. Good stuff! Respect and love, ✌🏾

[@Screened]

Welcome aboard 👍

[@thedonjj8629]

Great video like always! Keep up the good work my friend!

[@Screened]

Much appreciated 👍

[@rockstar2012r]

Such an excellent video. I watch plenty of cinema based video essays and yours are always of A+ grade. Good job, guys and keep making them 🔥 My favorite Neo Noir films would be EVERYTHING Denis Villeneuve does, se7en, donnie darko (if it can be considered one).

[@Screened]

Thank you very much 👍 yes everything Denis Villeneuve does is great

[@JB-bq2qj]

My favorite neo-noir is Heat, inspiration for the Dark Knight

[@kakash1431]

Wanted to thank you for putting the movie title in the corner :)

[@glenndouglas8822]

Only just found the channel and what have you done to me😂🤣. Binge Watch Alert. Finally a film channel with intellectualism on a Kafka scale with a prose worthy of Kerouac whilst sipping a nice cup of English tea. Respect from England ✌️

[@vb_blokeboi7251]

brilliant video, screened rules forever

[@THX1178]

Nice video. Noir isn’t a term ‘we use retroactively’ though. It was coined in the 40s and the first book on ‘Film Noir’ was published in the 50s

[@DyeBaller499]

I don’t get how you only have 277k subs. Your work is amazing.

[@Screened]

Much appreciated 👍

[@lucasnunes2453]

Amazing video as always !!

[@Screened]

Much appreciated 👍 hopefully it expands your watchlist

[@JuanAbril1030]

Not sure if this movie counts as Neo-noir, but I loved Gattaca!

[@Screened]

I think it could be. A science fiction neo-noir

[@JuanAbril1030]

@@Screened Right!?

[@TheSkour]

Abril es gay

[@anishsawan6496]

Interestingly i have also been on fhe search for neo noir movies recently. Especially asian neo noir, which makes the definitions even looser but also gives it a veru different perspective (especially since neo noir is such a broad term). From chinese movies like Long Day's Journey into Night and Black Coal, Thin Ice to South Korean classics like Oldboy and the maybe-neo-noir-i-dont-really-know of india's Ugly. My current goal is mostly going through the Asian movies which have been classified as neo-noir (or close to it), with more of a focus of east asia, and understand what the common trends are and how they are different from each other and also their american counterparts as a whole.

[@Screened]

That could be its own theme in the future

[@anishsawan6496]

@@Screened yes absolutely!

[@MrMeowMah]

Definitely check out Memories of Murder!

[@anishsawan6496]

@@MrMeowMah already have! It is my fave bong joon ho movie along with parasite.

[@honnashankara3681]

We don't really want the truth we want a good story. That's going on my wall rn!

[@1995yuda]

Top notch content 👌

[@Screened]

Thank you and enjoy 👍

[@nickdaniel3840]

Wow this is very well done! Great job!

[@pip7990]

I mean all the homies love neo noir. Nightcrawler, Drive, who doesn't love it?

[@ДрагошРобовић]

I think Russian Brat and Brat 2 is one of the best neo - noir movies. It is portraying 90s Russian criminal life, classical morally confused protagonist and has some seriously melancholic aesthetics.

[@nimava2336]

Amazing and intricate video essay! I would be happy to watch more videos on Neo-Noir!

[@Screened]

Glad you liked it 👍. More next week

[@Chocolatepain]

Neo noir is my favorite genre actually

[@erikr6349]

The machinist is a good one with christian bale

[@Oveyz]

Damn I didn't comment earlier as I was going to point out the best type of Neo-noir to me where the blade runner movies, only to stop, thinking "that's probably not neo-noir actually". Dammit lol

[@devilman-g2f]

Unlike other genres neo-noir never dies, it just evolves.

[@terrystanley8216]

Great job as always fellas. I'm going to totally check out the book y'all recommended.

[@Screened]

Enjoy 👍

[@goosebumpsemiliano9104]

My favorite Crime Neo- Noir: Taxi driver and Drive favorite Thriller Neo-Noir: Collateral Favorite sci-fi Neo-Noir: Balde Runner Favorite Action Neo-Noir: John Wick and Atomic Blonde Favorite Dark Comedy Neo-Noir: Fight Club

[@Screened]

Good list. That's what I like about Neo-noir, so much to choose from

[@goosebumpsemiliano9104]

@@Screened Yeah many options. Can you talk one day about sub-genres. That could be interesting to analyses

[@alicenestpasmonprenom5784]

Fight club??

[@alicenestpasmonprenom5784]

FC is technically not a neo-noir film!

[@goosebumpsemiliano9104]

@@alicenestpasmonprenom5784 kind of

[@Camiloquai1]

Great video. Thanks

[@MrNormalPerson]

I can't believe you didn't mention Who Framed Roger Rabbit.... or is that just noir?

[@Screened]

Yeah I just had a lot of clips to work with so I couldn't include it but it is a neo-noir movie. It parodies the original tropes of the genre.

[@MrNormalPerson]

@@Screened Fair enough - great vid, I'm going to go through it again when I have more time.

[@eclipsewrecker]

I’d use Neo-noir to describe movies that hit on al but one or two elements; like the missing narrator in some.

[@StevenBishop-c9r]

Body Heat is the first one to come to mind

[@DonJuanDecepticon]

Be alot cooler I'd surf shark's logo was an actual shark surfing, I'm sure I have stated this previously but like aot of Neo- Noir characters I have arrived at the same conclusion, be it futile or not.😉

[@pepeishere7529]

It would be better if it was a shark doing Crack-Cocaine.

[@moonriverdiver]

Red Rock West and (same director) The Last Seduction.

[@andreferreirasiqueira8424]

How about Sin City? One of my favorites. And that of of Bergman, the knight playing chess with death

[@WilliamSunPetrus]

Underrated channel btw

[@jbm421]

You got it wrong with Memento. Leonard didn't kill his wife's killer because his wife didn't die in that attack. The story of how Sammy Jenkins killed his wife is actually the story of how Leonard killed his wife. Remember Teddy telling him that Jenkins didn't have a wife, and that his (Leonard's) wife had diabetes. The trauma from his condition and the guilt of killing his wife cause him to deteriorate so much that he didn't even remember that his wife had diabetes. Also, Nolan clever spells it out for you in that ending montage. Leonard replacing Jenkis in the institution and even a shot of Leonard and his wife in bed with the words "I did it, tattooed on his chest". That's the truth that disturbs him so much that he then plots to kill Teddy.

[@RaulEndy]

Watch The Hater from 2020. It is a Polish movie which I think come under the neo-noir genre. It's available on Netflix.

[@Screened]

I will look it up 👍

[@sergiopena8121]

My favorite Neo Noir is definitely Blade Runner.

[@blameline]

Check out 1985s Trouble In Mind with Kris Kristofferson and Keith Carradine. Great Noir.

[@MrBeckenhimself]

The killer does not have to be punished in noir. There are tons of noir stories where the killers walks free. A classic noir story often has no happy ending. Neo-noir is nothing more but something that uses the classical noir characteristics but came after the classic noir period.

[@Cherriheart]

Poignant, as always!

[@Screened]

Glad you liked it 👍

[@JoshAtkinson]

Lots of great titles here, but Bound and The Grifters are great Neo-noirs too!

[@mangoesboy]

Such an interesting video. I am subscribing it.

[@williambarbosadasilva9536]

Audience from Brazil here!

[@bijikedelai]

the "that's literally me" genre

[@j.m.w.5064]

The video is quite a bit too sure about it's definitions... What noir is, how it developed through it's at least THREE different stages, if Neo-noir is a rabbit hole that would lead to neo-neo-neo noir or if it's rather a collection of tropes that give a certain noir-stylisation or flavour to a film? Would a film emulating the style of the 30s as it was depicted in the 60s be a classical Noir made today or Neo or simply nostalgic? You sound like you have it all figured out before. Whithout addressing that all these and many more questions can be raised but not probably not definitely answered. It's a nice video about the history of noir but... I really wouldn't be so sure about all of this.