Star Trek Into Darkness Pitch Meeting

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JJ Abrams’ 2009 reboot of Star Trek on the big screen was a massive blockbuster hit, and you know what that means… sequel! Star Trek Into Darkness was the follow-up movie that continued the adventures of the Starship Enterprise and brought along Benedict Cumberbatch for the ride-- who they tried very hard to pretend wasn’t playing Khan.
Star Trek Into Darkness raises a lot of questions. Like why did both Marcus and Khan have such convoluted plans to get what they wanted? Why did Alice Eve’s character need to be shown in her underwear? Why did they decide to swap Spock’s sacrifice for a Kirk sacrifice? How does kicking a warp core a bunch of times fix it? Why would Khan think that torpodeos would be a safe place for his family? How are people beaming to other planets and beaming explosives to other ships? How is there any tension when SUPER-BLOOD exists?!
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[@DrMcFly28]

"Mr. Napoleon, you might be wondering why we resurrected you. It's because we want you to build us a new iPhone."

[@ilikestew5719]

Best person for the job

[@HagenvonEitzen]

@@ilikestew5719 He had always been secretly texting with his hand under the vest

[@ProjectEkerTest33]

@@HagenvonEitzen Made me snort

[@ilikestew5719]

@@HagenvonEitzen Is that what that was? Thank you, never knew that

[@DrButthugger]

@@ilikestew5719 Napoleon mastered T9

[@loganjones9423]

“Subverting expectations via character swap even though it doesn’t totally make sense is tight!” Proceeds to switch the writer and business man characters. 5:12

[@SeanTube2099]

Holy poop. I didn’t even notice.

[@MrMighty147]

God damn it, didn't notice that at ALL.

[@TheDarkestMarcus]

Wait! Whaaaaat??????

[@jdub2802]

Haha, I didn't even notice the swap. I was actually going to comment that it looked like the writer and exec were dressed more like how the other would dress.

[@maximummatt73]

At least four commenters not noticing something extremely obvious is TIGHT

[@socaldayve6684]

Man, that list of things that are TIGHT is getting really elaborate.

[@benjaminmazuca2892]

Elaborate things are TIGHT

[@LintSplinter]

I think the list of things that are “unclear” is bigger

[@HarmlessRealityBreaker]

@@LintSplinter the list of things that "I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about" may not be bigger, but still the fact it's such a long list does raise some questions of it's own...

[@Ektalon]

Almost like it’s getting pretty LOOSE . . .

[@michaelesparza4116]

The “nun” bit is probably by favorite variation. Nearly pissed myself laughing

[@VIGNESHWARRR]

"Oh they'll just think he's REALLY into his own name" "Fair enough, it's nice to have some self love"

[@scottloessel6493]

Funny joke but if you are Watching a Star Trek movie it’s pretty safe bet you know who Kahn is. It’s like a Star Wars fan not knowing who Boba Fett is

[@GangstaStan010]

@@scottloessel6493 What about the people that are invited?

@@scottloessel6493 The vast majority of people have seen a couple episodes on TV and never seen the movies. It's safe to say most people had no idea who Kahn was. (I certainly didn't)

[@KhanGarth]

I’d say a fair amount of Trek watchers don’t know Khan actually even though Wrath of Khan is arguably the best Trek movie (First Contact is way up there too)

[@henrybarnhill2443]

@@scottloessel6493 you’d be surprised how many people don’t know who boba fett

[@ghostlyarranger]

The fact that we see the executive producer guy is pitching and the screenwriter guy is listening is tight

[@adisura9904]

EXACTLY

[@ryuk65]

Oh, I'm glad i wasn't seeing things.

[@donxolo225]

It was a joke halfway through lol

[@rakdos36]

I didnt even notice at first until i saw your comment.

[@keithriley6597]

My son noticed. I did not. Is it a mistake? ...or a test?

[@unclecreepy4185]

Everybody: Captain, you’re breaking the Prime Directive. Captain James Tiberius Kirk: I’d really appreciate it if you all would just get all the way off my back about that.

[@makaniwebb9358]

Flouting the prime directive is TIGHT!

[@spacedinosaur8733]

@@makaniwebb9358 it's super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@aztn19]

Well, okay then! 😁👌🏾

[@panzergips6544]

Good comments🤣

[@Beer_Dad1975]

Let me get right off of that thing!

[@invalidacz2624]

I just Realised that they swapped :DD. The Pitcher and the Producer

[@xanderguldie]

Whoa I didn't even notice it lol!

[@invalidacz2624]

@@xanderguldie Ikr :DD

[@fratertzadkiel2863]

I hadn't noticed that either. I was distracted by trying to remember where it was established that Kirk and Spock were friends in this continuity.

[@MichaelGonzalez-hd7kk]

Yeah I was listening/watching while eating lunch and missed it too. After reading your comment, I had to go back and rewatched that part.

[@shihabrahman6502]

Had to rewatch lmao

[@attieyag]

“Switching the screen writer and producer and making me wipe my eyes and rewind the video because I thought I was having a stroke is TIGHT!!!”

[@kritichaplot5025]

How.. why.. how did this happen....! I literally didn't notice until I read this comment

[@rutwickgangurde3247]

Damn. Didn't even notice it until I read this comment.

[@volleygirl1619]

I thought I was the only one that noticed lol

[@GreatLevellerGaming]

That character switch was a touch of genius, especially because of how long it took me to notice. Never realised how much the two guys look alike.

[@brandonl.garcia2737]

"Sometimes you need a little self love" "The heart wants what the heart wants" Love lessons from Producer guy.

[@SupergeekMikeDowntime]

Seeing the different versions of Ryan swap roles was actually... weirdly upsetting. Like, it shouldn’t be, it’s the same dude, but still super weird and wrong?

[@Deimnos]

I know, right?

[@krcmaine]

YES!

[@andrewj1754]

I think it's best if you get all the way off his back about it.

[@hagerty1952]

Bingo!

[@willvgo2950]

@@andrewj1754 ...or, him to get all the way off your back about that... maybe?

[@Tmb1112]

Avengers, Skyfall, and Star Trek Into Darkness all did the villain gets caught on purpose midway through and talks through a glass case thing between 2012-2013. Actually crazy how much it happened in such a short period of time

[@realgamergirl4638]

don't forget The Joker from The Dark Knight which started the whole trend, the difference being that Batman was with him inside the glass case

[@MSpotatoes]

If you want to be perceived as a clever villain, you gotta get caught on purpose and talk through a glass cage. You gotta do it.

[@mdmn-ARCA]

It happens so often because it's essentially a plot outline from the 2005 screenwriting book "Save the Cat!" by Blake Snyder. I don't think it specifies anything about glass, but the book is entirely responsible for the "villain gets caught on purpose midway through the movie" trend.

[@ambrar12]

hollywood is filled with amateur writers, often just nepo hires from producers. They have no real creativity or imagination and just write in whatever they see in a movie or tv show.

[@emptyvoices31]

Oh yeah....okay, no idea is original anymore and you can't copyright an idea so that means it gets recycled over and over in different movies when the moment calls for it.

[@Djordje_Jovanovic]

For J.J. Abrams, ruining beloved franchises is super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@maximummatt73]

Yeah yeah yeah

[@tf9822]

He's the most high profile lazy writer i've ever seen...

[@BlackMetalGraffiti]

Whoops! - Whoopsies!

[@mormacil]

It's a huge inconvenience :P

[@raphael3515]

J.J. Abrams:I’m gonna need you to get ALL the way off my back there Fans: okay, let me get off of that thing

[@geardog24]

"Is there a good reason for the underwear scene?" "Sexy space reasons of course!"

[@franciscoancer2618]

Well was there a good reason for the Chris Pine scene with two female cat alien girls? (Not that I’m complaining)

[@MinistryOfMagic_DoM]

@@franciscoancer2618 Elon Musk paid for it.

[@franciscoancer2618]

@@MinistryOfMagic_DoM Good to know

[@franciscoancer2618]

@M 40 Good to know

[@dannypockets]

"Oh! Sexy space reasons are TIGHT!"

[@j.p.pelzman7481]

The most amazing thing about swapping the characters is how Ryan still maintained the different vocal inflections, i.e., the producer still spoke like the producer even though he looked like the writer. As people noted, if you were working on something else on your computer, you wouldn't have noticed

[@marcusostrander5971]

I was watching the video and didn't notice till I read the comments.

[@blackdaniels4876]

Literally going through Steam games and came back to watch it visually and was so confused until I read the comments.

[@chrisstrebor]

I'm re watching this from when it came out a year ago, and even after my second watch I didn't realize he swapped personalities until I read this comment, had to rewind lmao as if. Very smooth indeed!!

[@celinelaberge2190]

I only noticed because i rewatched it via a reaction video to pitch meeting.

[@gnocchidokey]

To be honest I primarily identify the characters based on their background. Dude in front of window = writer guy.

[@Mjfox3145]

Best seven words on KZbin: “so you have a movie for me?” Awesome again, sir.

[@stevenloube6784]

Except never said in this video

[@bulletproofdee9886]

@@stevenloube6784 yeah we know I’m sure you get what they are saying tho

[@jennifere.pergola598]

Probably the most unique reason ever to start a war: "The heart wants what the heart wants." Also, "space reasons" is now second to "technobabble" to explaining everything in the "Star Trek" universe.

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

Eh, tale as old as Troy.

[@PatrickAshe41]

The movie establishes that Marcus is in the Federation's version of the Military-Industrial Complex. He did it for money (well, favor/power, Federation doesn't use currency etc.) under false pretenses. That simple. (Not unlike real life.)

[@sabalghoo]

Ever read about Troy?

[@BradTheAmerican]

One of my favorite pieces of technobabble is "bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish." Apparently the Voyager series did that a handful of times to solve .

[@brucebaker810]

What does a god need with a starship? Space reasons. ====== Tribbles. Like Covid. But cuter.

[@tayzonday]

I always despised this movie. Screen Rant despised it more enjoyably.

[@Elucidarian]

Hey! You're the guy from that other KZbin channel! KZbinrs commenting on other KZbinrs is tight!

[@Cre8Lounge]

but the chase is epic!

[@Jebu911]

Yeah kinda turned sci-fi into just fantasy.

[@Orlor]

I despised all the Abrams trek. Well, the first two actually. Never saw the third one.

[@Elucidarian]

@@Orlor the third one was probably the best, which isn't the highest hurdle, I know.

[@RRW359]

"Why even shoot at people? Just beam bombs into their ship." *happy Stargate noises*

[@timmy3982]

If anyone wants the actual Star Trek canon answer... shields prevent beaming of any kind, same reason they can't beam off the ship if they're being fired on.

[@NetAndyCz]

It is nice when show addresses its own loopholes:)

[@vinceb8041]

not to defend technobabble and space reasons, but isn't it established in star trek that you cannot transport onto a ship if it has active shields? They say that a couple of times before teleporting i think

[@RRW359]

@@vinceb8041 Usually but sometimes they can get around it. Usually by some kind of thing they made up on the spot (knowing shield frequencies, reversing something's polarity, ect.), but sometimes they can teleport without explanation because the writers forgot about sheilds.

[@karlhans6678]

I use to watch Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis every midnight, great show.

[@theslantedroomstudios]

I literally stopped listening after you character swapped, I did not see that coming! I thought I was losing my mind 🤣

[@Bucko1126]

Huh, I had this playing in the background and didn't notice, I had to go back and watch it again after seeing this comment!

[@bbqR0ADK1LL]

I've already had 2 coffees today & I didn't notice... what do I need to take?!?

[@ClabberHead]

Thanks! I didn't even notice he did that!

[@fabioguedes4872]

Subverting expectations is Tight!

[@JonathanVelez]

Lol same. Had to rewind it a bit to double check when it happened.

[@bignoknow]

Even on days where I feel sad, I know I can watch Pitch meetings and smile.

[@iClone316]

Same here

[@ladylightning3810]

Me, yesterday.

[@mkultra2456]

Stop being sad.

[@hibbidyjibbidyy]

felling sad is tight!

[@imgkl]

So I’m not the only one, who thought Khan was really into his own name. TIGHT!

[@alm2187]

Naw, HISHE made a similar joke. Then Khan says something like "c'mon, guys! I was a big deal to the Star Trek fans!" BONES: "What's...Star Trek?"

[@keithdavison2960]

@@alm2187 HISE is tight

[@smilinmadman2811]

Letting us know he is Khan was super easy and barely an inconvenience

[@artembentsionov]

According to the comics, he gave himself that name. His original name was Noonien Singh. He was a street kids in the slums of India before being picked up by some corporation seeking to build an army of supermen. He and the other kids were genetically modified and then overthrew their masters before starting to plan the takeover of the planet. They do it in the 90s and win in like 2 weeks, at which point Noonien decides to give himself a new name

[@smilinmadman2811]

@@artembentsionov TREEKIE!

[@dixiecronin7791]

Yeah I just completely lost it at "I feel like I've seen this scene a thousand times before!" "Make it 1001, sir, because we're doing it too!"

[@matthewsager925]

His character swap is one of the reasons he's so successful. Ryan, you magnificent genius!

[@craigleewilliams]

🍻

[@timbradshaw5481]

How did you notice this? lol

[@dhirajgawande007]

I noticed 1 minute after the swap😂😂

[@thefunnyguy2388]

I didn't notice till I saw this comment 😂😂🙌🏽

[@deveyous6614]

Who else watched it again because they didn't realise the swap until after reading the comments?

[@gaschneidr]

Me lol

[@Dargonhuman]

Yes.

[@Pauly421]

Nah it was noticeable from the get go

[@MrTerron888]

Lol came here to say the exact same thing!

[@sanvandi]

Same. Thank you, comments!

[@granite_planet]

3:01 I _love_ how fluently the writer gives these evasive non-answers without missing a single beat of his pitch :D "unclear" "maybe" "apparently so"

[@eacalvert]

Kinda like me answering questions for customers when they ask very obvious questions

[@Cabochon1360]

I find myself wishing J.J. Abrams had been an insurance salesman or something.

[@TheFifthBeatle06]

Along with Zach Snyder please somebody make them do anything but movies

[@DanielRichards644]

just restrict him to TV, he did after all bring us Alias and Fringe, or just not allow him to work with established properties at the very least.

[@leob4403]

@@ohio and self confidence. JJ Abrams seems to be confident in his abilities even though they are very limited

[@bwtrader]

Insurance with lense flares!

[@georgegrogee5991]

He's a great director.

[@ItsTheGuy77]

I'm not a Trekkie. I don't hate Star Trek, I just didn't grow up with it. Never seen any of the shows, except for Star Trek Discovery season 1, which was a chore to get through. I've seen like 2 or 3 of the old films & this new trilogy. My point is, I don't really have a stake in this universe/fandom but I *REALLY* hated how they crashed the Enterprise in every freaking film in this new trilogy. Hands down one of the most iconic ships in all of fictional history & they destroy it every time to get like some kinda emotional response from the audience but doing that every fricking time does like the complete opposite of that.

[@jonmcdaniel8492]

That's the beauty of Star Trek: it gives everyone a different reason to hate it, unlike Star Wars, which everyone hates because it is repetitive crap.

[@ingetamna]

I always thought it was to show how crazy loaded Starfleet was that they can afford to rebuild a ship of the line every 2 years when Kirk gets it blown up :P That or JJ just really likes building/exploding ship scenes

[@ItsTheGuy77]

@@ingetamna I think it's the second one. 😂

[@carlrood4457]

It's a problem with a lot of action film making today. It's all about spectacle and impossibly high stakes. There's a problem with creating a sense of danger without huge amounts of destruction. Note how Wrath of Khan was able to create a sense of danger while keeping the ship mostly intact and Search for Spock made destroying the ship seem like killing an old friend.

[@joshuapray]

To be fair, destroying the Enterprise had been a standard trope in the series for decades before the new trilogy.

[@connyhale4102]

"Is the guy that's been frozen for three centuries really the best guy to develop new technology?" "Apparently so." Priceless XD

[@willvgo2950]

time reasons

[@NitpickingNerd]

maybe the 72 other augmented guys were also working with him on that at first

[@dancrane3807]

To be fair, all Khan would need is, say 4 years of education/training to be up to date. He's still way smarter than the average bear. And I'd rather have a blood thirsty, vengence driven guy on my team, instead of people brought up to be pacifists.

[@amcconnell6730]

@@dancrane3807 It would be like resurrecting Sir Isaac Newton (died 294 years ago), and asking him to make a new iPad....

[@claudewinters2091]

@@amcconnell6730 well, couldn't we do multiple resurrections? My trifecta would be Newton, Oppenheimer & Einstein for the next generation ipad... Maybe throw Telsa in there somewhere....

[@jamesbrown4092]

My personal names for the movies are: Star Trek: Lens Flare Star Trek: The Rip-Off of Kahn Star Trek: Seriously? They Made Another One? Star Trek: Even the Cast Don't Want to Do It I was kind of expecting, "Cold Fusion? Is that a thing?" "It is now."

[@maximummatt73]

Star Trek: Is TIGHT

[@Stingra87]

Star Trek Beyond is actually the MOST Star Trek of the JJTrek films, however. It's easily the best and, much like how Solo died for the The Last Jedi's sins, Beyond died because of how bad Into Darkness was.

[@migueltrujillo8929]

Star Trek: Lens Flare is also a rip-off of Kahn as it recycles a lot of plot points from Star Trek II as well

[@avocadothecat]

Star Trek Beyond is by far the best of the new movies (ok the bar was low)

[@stephanebedos2112]

Star Trek Beyond was perhaps the best movie of the J.J Trek, but it's still a piece a fuming garbage compared to ANY TNG or DS9 episode.

[@TharosTheDragon]

"Just beam bombs onto their ships" This is actually an established strategy in Stargate: Atlantis.

[@matthewmullin6042]

Even in Star Trek you can beam anything onto a ship as long as their shields are down. Its the presence of the shields that stops transporting bombs onto other ships.

[@jasonwalker9471]

@@matthewmullin6042 Yeah. It's actually done on occasion too. There was even a memorable scene in Star Trek: Voyager where we see it from the other side. The shields go down, then a torpedo materializes inside and explodes. It happens. Usually though, you're firing barrages of weapons at a hostile ship, and then between one impact and the next the shields fail, with the still-incoming volleys destroying the ship. No beaming necessary, because if their shields aren't up anyway, you can just destroy them using conventional weapons without complicating things with transporters.

[@BriefNerdOriginal]

Plus, the attacking ship also has to lower the shields to beam something.

[@hades4438]

@@BriefNerdOriginal This is a good point. And if you do not have shield, any damage can be deadly.

[@katywolffis7678]

Yup. I was thinking the same thing.

[@MagiCaleb]

Based on most of these comments I feel like people didn’t notice his own character swap half way through...

[@apu_apustaja]

It wasn't half way. It was more like 5/6th of the way. **my nerd face goes here**

[@markuhler2664]

In my defense they do look a lot alike.

[@jotheunissen9274]

@@markuhler2664 No they don't Movie pitcher guy has glasses

[@KyngD469]

@@markuhler2664 yeah yeah yeah, he has glasses. They look nothing alike. 👁👄👁

[@apu_apustaja]

@@markuhler2664 I really don't see the resemblance myself...

[@dreadpiratedan]

you missed the most hilarious moment in the film - when khan tells the dying girls dad that he can save her, dad says "who are you?" and the the camera just slow zooms in on khan for a good 6-7 seconds while he smirks and doesn't say anything

[@silversurfer8818]

Kirk is the only Starfleet captain with the same level of knowledge in science as everyone else in this comments section!

[@pentelegomenon1175]

He's one of us!

[@jonmcdaniel8492]

Having the same level of knowledge of science as everybody in the comments section is TIGHT!!

[@islamadam8502]

"Is there any reason for the underwear scene?" "Money!" "That works!"

[@GeneralMattimo]

"So we can show it in the trailer"

[@dannyr2976]

In all seriousness that minor scene received a lot of backlash. Yet every other comic book film or other Chris Hemsworth 'shirtless guy' performance gets nothing.

[@islamadam8502]

@Danny R I guess it was a part of the film's advertisement so it was not commercially minor (though needless in all cases), and Chris Hemsworth gets criticised for his shirtless scenes, in fact in an interview he had to justify appearing shirtless in "Bad Times at the El Royale" saying that it was a part of his character and not for selling tickets.

[@dannyr2976]

That's fair enough, but we see good looking hunks running around doing shirtless scenes, including Tom Holland supposedly playing a 16 year old as Spider-Man, but there doesn't seem to be the same level of criticism. I'm not opposed to guys providing sex appeal for an audience, I would just prefer less outrage when a woman does it. These scenes are mostly not really necessary for the film's story and just a bit of fun, not deserving over offense.

[@devanhinskey9001]

Fanservice is TIGHT!!!

[@UnleashthePhury]

I remember being so irritated in the theatre when they killed Pike and gave Kirk the Enterprise after taking it away literally five minutes earlier, because I thought they were going to do an interesting thing with the characters. It would’ve been far more effective if, after spending the movie learning valuable lessons about the burden of command, Kirk has to helplessly watch as Pike sacrifices himself to save the ship. But no. Couldn’t possibly do that when you’ve written “Spock yells ‘KHAAAAAN!!!’” Already.

[@jesserothhammer7378]

I never realized how skilled of actors writer guy and producer guy were until they swapped. They don't even look alike, but still managed to pull off each other's characters.

[@genericname2423]

We need a Pirates of the Caribbean pitch meeting

[@ChrisHarings]

EVERY SINGLE ONE

[@CamGregory]

Yes

[@DrevDRV]

Yes and unrelated...gremlins and karate kid

[@mediamaniac898]

Pirates of the Caribbean Pitch Meetings would be TIGHT!!!

[@dinocha0s]

Super easy! barely an incovenience

[@kratosGOW]

Are you happy your demand was fulfilled?

[@mediamaniac898]

@@kratosGOW I just hope he continues, with the next three.

[@pdzombie1906]

The only reason this movie is worth existing is Benedict Cumberbatch... And now a Pitch Meeting. Thanx!!!

[@artman2oo3]

Well, is Burnadick Camperback really all that?

[@throatwobblermangrove8510]

Who is Bandersnatch Cummerbund?

[@ItsTheGuy77]

Wow, you guys are being SUPER disrespectful. It's actually Battlestar Counterstrike

[@jimh472]

Even the acting strength of Bernadette Campershell would not repel bad writing of that magnitude.

[@artman2oo3]

@@jimh472 I think, though, that Barbiecar KenDurango did try his best, though.

[@INajnaR]

I was in edge of depression... and I accidentally found him a month ago... Binge watched all the pitch meetings, his own page sketches.. Thank you Ryan George 🙏🙏... You literally break the demon’s (depression, stress, anxiety) neck and saving our days.... 😍😍

[@willvgo2950]

Did he do a backflip before snapping the bad guy's neck & saving the day?

[@milestrombley1466]

Admiral: "Why the hell did you hide your ship in the water?" Kirk: "So my female crew can take their clothes off and go swimming." Admiral: "What?"

[@pandapower3076]

Seems legit to me

[@onkelpappkov2666]

Kirk: "What?"

[@Jordan-Ramses]

At least that makes sense. It's way better than running into a volcano to freeze it with cold fusion. It's irresponsible but it's not, you know, impossible and fatal. It shows a basic understanding of what clothes are and what swimming is.

[@RashikaRai]

The swap threw me off. Thought something was weird; had to go back few seconds. Subtlety is tight!

[@CaptChrispy]

"So the Space movie Pitch Meeting doesn't have a visit from the AD-stronaut?" "No." "Well that seems kinda weird."

[@Gladiamdammit]

"I'm gonna need you to get all the hell of the way of the way off my back about that."

[@willvgo2950]

@@Gladiamdammit Well, let me get off of that thing.

[@shikhar.awasthi]

Whoops!

[@michaeldally7995]

@@shikhar.awasthi Whoopsie!!

[@hueowen2786]

I don't care enough to verify it, but I believe the AD-stronaught only appears at the end of videos on the Ryan George channel.

[@IsaacG8]

Omg, seeing the characters get swapped in this video was trippy. Even though it's both done by the same dude, it was still crazy to see the roles reversed.

[@ScriptedEntertainment]

“Oh subverting expectations via character swap even though it totally doesn’t make sense is tight!” Ryan George is simply a comedy genius, perfect comic timing 😊

[@meinkanal7443]

Saw PitchMeeting. Clicked PitchMeeting. The heart wants what the heart wants.

[@binky2442]

The switched places of the producer and the scriptwriter right after they said that Kirk and Spock switched places was subtle but amazing. I loved it!

[@sarinat3101]

Making sense of this movie was super difficult, very much an inconvenience.

[@MadTurnip]

I had to watch it twice to realize that at 05:17 they switch places.

[@peterroe3389]

The best thing about this is how switching the characters shows how he acts them so differently but so subtle I watched every one of these without noticing. His acting is an unnoticed talent.

[@King-ci8sk]

Took me a good second to realize the swap when you were talking about the swap. Bravo

[@Bendesho]

"Is there a good reason for the underwear scene though" "The actress is really hot" "Oh, right, right"

[@stephenshoihet2590]

Hot actresses are tight!

[@MichaelGonzalez-hd7kk]

Actually I would probably imagine they are fairly loose...

[@willvgo2950]

@ebulating "Oh, baby junk is ti-" "Nope. Don't say that."

[@Acrosurge]

Beaming equipment/weapons/torpedoes onto a ship has always been a thing in Star Trek, you just can't generally do it when a ships shield's are up. Dampening fields also prevent transport. But also... yeah, beaming across the galaxy does make starships obsolete.

[@shadowcruiser874]

finally someone talking about the shields up restricting beaming

[@bad-people6510]

@@shadowcruiser874I mean yeah, being unable to use transporters while the shields are up has always been a rule that Star Trek sometimes follows.

[@steviesteve5198]

You know Pitch Meeting is a good show, when you can watch him talk about a movie you've never seen, and couldn't care less about, yet you love every minute of it.

[@drummerboythx2213]

Just Googled “Cold Fusion”; yeah, that wouldn’t work.

[@ntokozomyeza634]

Thanks for doing the work. I was curious but lazy

[@SHADOW1414]

Yeah, cold fusion never works.

[@carlos2004]

you probably googled hot fusion, because obviously cold fusion makes things cold since it has cold in the name.

[@kennyg1358]

They used Arnold Schwarzenegger's Dr. Freeze technology.

[@Creshex8]

@@SHADOW1414 👍and YOU certainly know what cold fusion is by that response...

[@MaesterMike]

The way you swapped characters makes this much favorite Pitch Meeting ever. It’s so subtly done, since they don’t even acknowledge it outside of the episode’s “tight” moment.

[@joelyt1682]

I was so confused when they switch and then I realized that it's the same person and my brain just died.

[@ocp997]

Now I want him to do Star Trek 3 with the sentence: "OH, and they will kill all the space aliens with *classical* music!"

[@robotrix]

No, "Puberty Love"

[@brucelucasjr5856]

One could say he sabotaged their ships.......thank you. I'm here all week. I really am. I have no friends. Please laugh at my joke

[@Lpwyse]

I love how the characters are truly the voice inflections. Clothes don’t make the man apparently.

[@namaskaracharya3782]

It was almost impossible to focus on the conversation without laughing when you swapped the roles 🤣🤣🤣

[@theladyamalthea]

Yes! I was so confused at the swap! Seriously don’t remember anything they said after that.

[@supahsuit]

I think it would be hilarious if you covered the expendables

[@eliehosfield7780]

Yes please

[@himynameis3664]

Why is it once u watch one of these pitch meetings it's just straight down a rabbit hole of binge watching every pitch meeting ever uploaded? Anyone else no?

[@ABC-yt1nq]

Like a damn bag of chips: I'll just taste one and BINGE BINGE BINGE!

[@christhornton8219]

"The heart wants what the heart wants." Hahahahahahahaha

[@superflea72]

"Oh, you flipped it!" characters flip instantly...this is why you're the best dude! 😂😂

[@cross172]

Didn’t realize that Writer Guy and Producer Guy swapped places near the end of the video. Very clever, Ryan!

[@rockyh8795]

Proving yet again that JJ Abrams is criminally overrated.

[@GreenFalcon926]

Not as a director he's not. As a writer, yeah.

[@sparrow7984]

I'm willing to put the blame on Damon Lindelof. The guy also wrote Lost, Prometheus, and Tomorrowland... All completely filled with nonsense.

[@GreenFalcon926]

@@sparrow7984 LOST was amazing, wtf drugs you on? I want some.

[@mannyverse6158]

Why is he even viewed positively at all? All he does is make trash

[@sleepysera]

@@mannyverse6158 He makes entertaining movies/shows that also look amazingly good. Do they make a whole lot of sense? No. But it's enjoyable and pretty to watch regardless 🤭

[@Towelietowel]

My favorite part of this movie was the fact that I didn't have to pretend to like it to spare my Trekkie Dad's feelings, because he hated it too.

[@MindHunger]

"Why is J. J. Abrams doing these movies?" "Space reasons."

[@bigdaddychemster1201]

Why not just beam bombs onto the enemy ship: In Trek canon, you cant beam through shields.

[@leonpaelinck]

yeah to be fair, Khan allowed them to be beamed on the ship

[@rer1rer148]

So when Khan lowered the shields they could send him a real torpedo instead.

[@BradTheAmerican]

Well, some transporters can, just not Starfleet ones under normal circumstances. There have been some technobabble situations where they were able to on a few occasions.

[@rogermwilcox]

Blah blah blah shield reset cycle blah blah blah shield harmonic frequency blah blah

[@ChasehaWing]

Isn't it once you shoot at the ship enough the shields go down? Why not use the transport bomb thing as a finishing move?

[@androssteague]

Villains who deliberately get captured to talk to the main characters: Kahn, Loki, Joker, John Doe (se7en), Lord Blackwood (Sherlock Holmes).

[@to819]

Silva in Skyfall as well.

[@blupunk01]

The first time I ever remember encountering this trope was in The Silmarillion when Sauron allows himself to be captured and taken back to Númenor where he engineers the destruction of their civilization by talking the King into invading the Undying Lands.

[@martandaditya6940]

Would Micheal Scofield from Prison Break count? Or the Four Horsemen from Now You See Me?

[@joshuapray]

Doesn't this happen in at least one of the Mission: Impossible films as well?

[@androssteague]

@@joshuapray kind of. When Philip Seymour Hoffman gets captured in the third one he does escape but the capture wasn't his doing. The same with Solomon Lange in Fallout.

[@middleagedsheldon]

"Make it a thousand and one, sir. Cause we're doing it too." lmao😂😂

[@nerdock4747]

*Loki would like to know your location*

[@sageweinberg4167]

seeing screenwriter guy and producer guy on different sides of the room felt oddly weird

[@qsqzqz]

Subverting expectations via character swap is tight!

[@tordurhansen333]

I DIDNT NOTICE ...Im daft! :(

[@Menaceblue3]

@@tordurhansen333 During the talk about Kirk dying instead of Spock, switching around the deaths from wrath of Khan

[@tordurhansen333]

@@Menaceblue3 Yes I saw it the second time around. Thanks though :D

[@vulpes6144]

I love how Ryan reverse the Screen Writer Guy and producer Guy's clothes when they are talking about reversed positions between Spock and Kirk.

[@mikekasich836]

Reverse cowgt

[@DLJohnsonHonourofKings]

I knew something was off when it happened. It made me laugh.

[@Ryan-xh7pe]

I totally forgot Benedict Cumberbatch was in this movie, he nailed it

[@illCMAC]

"Space Reasons" killed me! Speaking of space, can you do Event Horizon? Also would love to see you pitch the Sin City movies!!

[@kellnola]

Both seconded, great choices!

[@gwendyp125]

I'm so happy every time I hear the: "yes sir I do". Also, Oh my gosh, the character swap 😂🤣

[@leightoncressman6188]

Actually I will address one point it’s been established since the original series that you can’t beam through shields and yes I know but that has been inconsistently held but it’s generally been the rule throughout the series and even windshields are down I would imagine they would have other methods to block transporters.

[@Warlock8ZERO]

"They can just beam bombs onto the other ships? why even shoot at people, just beam the bombs over." Whoopsie! Literally what happened on Stargate as soon as they got their hands on beaming technology lol.

[@insignificantgnat9334]

Didn't the show promptly create technobabble reasons why it wouldn't work after the first couple of times it was tried?

[@Warlock8ZERO]

@@insignificantgnat9334 Yeah basically jamming technology which was a thing before this but for most races it wasn't an issue because having shields stopped it too most of the time, but jamming was necessary for the Wrath as they don't use shields at all lol.

[@artman2oo3]

I’ve always thought that a good last-ditch desperate effort if a starship is in a battle, is losing badly, and their warp core is about to explode, beam the warp core over into - or near - the ship that’s attacking them. And then it blows up.

[@Jim4815162342]

TOS established that you can't beam through shields.

[@hassathunter2464]

Yeah, SG was pretty good about these kind of things. Also came to mind when that part came up. Except for, you know, the 3rd shot Zat'nik'tel

[@GG89262]

Very important scene for the movie. The "underwear" scene. Only part I remember from the movie. It was a "tight" scene.

[@PhantoMace2012]

It’s SO surreal seeing Producer guy standing where Screenwriter guy should be standing while holding papers

[@gizmo123265]

My eyes genuinely didn't register that he switched characters around until right at the end 😂😂 Ryan's a legend!

[@SC-mq1eh]

Do the wrath of khan next, that would be TIGHT!!!

[@StuartQuinn]

It's way too good!

[@SC-mq1eh]

@@StuartQuinn TWOK is awesome - but it's "super easy, barely an inconvenience" that it happened to be chekov found khan and khan knew chekov in the 1st place, right?

[@StuartQuinn]

@@SC-mq1eh that's true, but in general the film hangs together and makes sense doesn't it? Or am I just blinded to its logical flaws because it works so well dramatically and emotionally?

[@SC-mq1eh]

@@StuartQuinn Nostalgia goggles! Makes us not see all sorts of flaws

[@MS-uz4ix]

@Stuart Quinn Pitch guy: So the big reveal comes when Kahn and Checkov recognize each other. Producer: Oh, so the guy that wasn’t even in the episode that introduces Kahn recognizes him? How is that possible. Pitch guy: Because continuity. Producer guy: Well ok then!

[@MrMonk-ph8dr]

“What about people in the audience who don’t know about Khan?” I’d guess they’d just assume he’s some self-important Mongolian.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

Yes, people died, but no dogs were hurt so happy ending.

[@ReigningInTheKitchenWithRon]

Having just rewatched John Wick, having no dogs die is probably in everyone's best interest anyway...

[@AdamGoodtime247]

Plot twist: 3 of the crushed skyscrapers were filled exclusively with puppies.

[@willvgo2950]

@@AdamGoodtime247 Some people better die for that.

[@palpamemes_66]

5:18 I got so confused there for a second. 😁😁😁

[@RobTunes]

CHRIST, THE WHOLE FIRST MINUTE - I really never thought about how nonsensical this opening scene was.

[@willvgo2950]

I'm gonna need you to get aaalllll the way off my back about how nonsensical the opening scene was.

[@JasminMiettunen]

I think the childhood clips established their characters somewhat, one being reckless and another stoic, but still has feelings for loved ones. Sure, you could show that throughout the movie, but it’s not like the beginning was completely nonsensical.

[@JasminMiettunen]

ShaolinDave McAlias I'm gonna need you to get aaaaalll the way off my back about my comment having absolutely nothing to do with the volcano thing On a serious note, I was commenting on the flashback scenes in the beginning if Star Trek 2009, that they also did a Pitch Meeting about, and somehow mixed up the videos

[@CigarDoug]

@@JasminMiettunen mixing up videos and commenting on the wrong one which leads to unnecessary ridicule by other fans is TIGHT!

[@mateotokic3841]

"Any reason for underwear scene?" "Actress is hot!" "Oh, hot actresses are TIGHT!"

[@Menaceblue3]

Yeah yeah yeah!

[@ItsTheGuy77]

"Well, because fan service & also Beeeewbs" "Wow wow wow, Objectifying women is *tight* " "Yeah yeah yeah"

[@Jarsia]

"yeah, I suppose they would be. Are you speaking from experience, sir?" "yeah, yeah, yeah" "That's pretty Weinstein of you, sir" "I'm gonna need you to get ALLL the way off my back about that"

[@ItsTheGuy77]

@@Jarsia "Ok, let me get off that thing"

[@thecouncilofnine4692]

Producer: Is there any reason for this woman to be on her underwear? Writer: She is going to be played by Alice Eve. Producer: We will start shooting this thing tomorrow.

[@bent3736]

I was impressed with how well Producer Guy adapted to the role of Screenwriter Guy and vice versa.

[@emperman]

At this point youtube will think i have a crush on Ryan i rewatch so many of his videos. Soothes me lol

[@RandKin]

Having a crush on Ryan is tight

[@jimmyfelton2825]

For everyone who doesn't know his main channel is called Ryan George watching every single one of his videos and dropping some thumbs up and comments while you're at it is super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@PeppyZeb]

They really ballsed this film up. Being able to warp to any planet makes spaceships redundant and being able to beam explosives onto a ship or near it makes combat redundant...

[@bensonsj98]

"For space reasons" basically sums up all of Star Trek.

[@elarion8701]

"I can tell you about a guy that jumps into a volcano, and you kinda can get that thrill without having to jump into a volcano..." Also from one of Ryan videos -)

[@loganhorvath1349]

“Getting captured on purpose as part of your master plan and then talking to people from inside a glass cell is tight” Lol

[@bonniemessick8570]

Loki

[@billc.2627]

For those times you need something to happen, regardless if it is logical or not in a Sci Fi film, always go with Space Reasons. And if someone questions it, make sure to tell them to get all the way off your back about space reasons.

[@MrJdecoy]

Alex Kurtzman is watching this thinking "Uh...I don't get it"

[@ironmantim33]

Marcus wanting a war with the Klingons was probably the only realistic part of it. For the same reason Cheney wanted war with everyone in the Middle East.

[@ethansissyshouseofgames5914]

These are the only things I watch Screen Rant for! You should do one for E.T. or something else old school. P.S You’ve saved us all movie rental money.