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[@sdgelectronics]

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[@tookitogo]

1:42 FYI, that’s a Europlug, not Schuko. (Schuko is actually short for “Schutzkontakt”, or ‘protective contact’, referring to the PE contact. The Europlug is unearthed, and has thinner pins than Schuko.)

[@SeanChYT]

Pretty interesting soldering station there! I have invested too much in genuine JBC 245 tips now to seriously consider this I think, but it's very cool to see new stuff from Aixun.

[@tookitogo]

6:07 That charger is a knock-off Apple charger. Apple has used the same system of snap-on plugs and cords since introducing it in 2001. The plugs (which are officially called “duckheads”, no joke) and cords used to not be available separately, but are now orderable accessories. (Apple also sells the complete set of all duckheads as the World Travel Adapter Kit.) But you can also just slide a regular figure-8 (C8) power lead into it. It looks janky but is perfectly safe and reliable. In the real Apple chargers, the metal stud is the earth connection, used only on cords, not duck heads. (Smaller charger models use a plastic stud.) I wouldn’t count on the knockoff’s stud being connected to anything.

[@jaro6985]

Southchip Semicon SC8201QDER - Synchronous boost converter, 2.7 to 30V in, 2.7 to 36V out, 2A gate drive. For anyone wondering.

[@brianwood5220]

Great review, Steve. And a great bit of kit from Aixun, I'd be very happy to have it at my home workstation. Thanks for sharing.

[@temyraverdana6421]

Thanks a lot for the review very appreciated. I have a question: have you misure some residual voltage in the tip during soldering? See you next

[@teslatrooper]

This is really tempting as an upgrade for my TS80P

[@Keiuran]

Hi SDG, I recently spent a lot of time watching your reviews to help pick out a new soldering station and hot air station (I went with Aixun T420D and Atten 862 hot air station) and noticed a lot of your newer videos aren't in your playlists. I think it would help others a lot if you could add more recent videos to their respective playlists when you have an opportunity. Thanks!

[@sdgelectronics]

They should all be in there now, I updated them a few days ago.

[@emmettturner9452]

How much did you spend on your T420D?

[@Keiuran]

I only needed a single handle and found a seller that sold it for $210. There was also an Aliexpress sale at the time that saved me $50 when combined with the cost of my hot air station.

[@emmettturner9452]

@@Keiuran Sweet! Now I know I’m not wasting my time waiting for a similar deal. :) Thanks!

[@acoustic61]

Cool! They should make more stations that run on power bricks. Like 120W C245 model.

[@magnets1000]

Left button increases temperature but moves the menu cursor down? Both buttons have an up arrow? LOL I could never get used to that

[@ZuNunchaku]

some reviewer has down pointed button

[@tokin420nchokin]

Wonder if they just put the button in upside down

[@DirkFedermann]

I wonder if a IEC-60320 C8 cabel (the figure 8/infinity connector) could fit into the power supply. That way you could still use it and don't have to have this big thing in a socket.

[@tookitogo]

It works perfectly, I’ve used Apple chargers that way many, many times. The only exceptions are the comparatively rare polarized C8 plugs (where one side of the figure-8 is rectangular), and with some C8 plugs whose grip area is too thick because they added really fat grip ridges.

[@elvinhaak]

Whjat can you do with the USB-connection on the PC and what can you set with using the WIFI ?

[@MadRC]

I’m just finishing my review. Did you spot the issue with external adapter and battery in that of both are connected you can’t turn it off. It just crashes. Also then if you remove the usb C and turn it off it turns its self back on. I have fed it back to them. Overall it’s a great iron

[@sdgelectronics]

Hmm I just tested it, it happens with their adapter but with the power supply I was using in the video it works normally.

[@MadRC]

@@sdgelectronics that’s interesting. I’ll test that now to Ok just tested and it’s the same on a few supplies for me.

[@ploxiln]

@@sdgelectronics here's another puzzler: the station is labeled with input: 9v - 15v. But the charger is labeled as only providing up to 3A at 15V (... or 4.8A at 20V to give the 96W rating). This is typical; pretty much all high-power usb-c chargers I've seen only provide more than 3A at 20V or greater. (The reason being that devices should prefer lower current and higher voltage, up to a point.) So how could it be getting 80W, at 15V? Maybe the supplied adapter will actually allow ~ 5A at 15V? (And some other high-power usb-c adapters will too?) Probably more strict/proper usb-c supplies will have issues with it.

[@sdgelectronics]

@@ploxiln yeah that's a good point, it must be temporarily overloading that supply, though I think generally it's not designed to be run without the battery installed

[@bobweiram6321]

I don't understand why the handle should be placed as shallow as possible in the cradle. You mentioned it prevents the heat from traveling back up the handle. Does heat obey the laws of reverse gravity?

[@AndreaAustoni]

heat raises to the top

[@bobweiram6321]

@@AndreaAustoni Hot air rises to the top, not heat. The thermal conductivity of air is far less than the metal part of the iron itself, otherwise your hand would burn during use. Putting the iron at a shallow angle would make a marginal, if any, difference.

[@overamped23042]

I don't suppose you solder much...

[@bobweiram6321]

@@overamped23042 MYOB

[@Nicolas_dG]

But why the wifi on a soldering iron? i dont get it...

[@JonnyFix]

Because of the low cost of this and other similar units that don't have the reduced temp standby mode could it be that the materials used to construct the case and holder aren't suitable to be around high temps for extended periods? Turning the iron off is preferred over higher cost of materials when competing in the market.

[@sdgelectronics]

In this case I think it's just a missing feature

[@umanetsoleksandr5652]

Cant understand why aixun denied supporting T245 in this model. 80W power covers power delivery of most of C245 cartridges including massive tips as 908 or 939 in practice works 😮

[@Keiuran]

Yeah it's strange because this would've been a winner for me if it did. I already had a very good USB power supply and this would've been perfect instead I got a T420D

[@dukeiiigmail]

245 requires 24v/5-6A , 210 and 115 run on 12v/ 1-5A. There's no way to boost a two pack 18650 to meet the power needs of 245. They could made 245 as "power connected only" option and provide a bigger 150w power brick.

[@tookitogo]

@@dukeiiigmail What makes you think it’s impossible? The high-current 18650s typically used in power tools are capable of 20-30A. At 7.4V, that’s around 150-220W. And as the original comment says: 80W covers most practical uses just fine, and even standard 18650s could handle that just fine. In either case, there certainly exist boost converters that could do it.

[@umanetsoleksandr5652]

​@@dukeiiigmail C245 in genuine JBC stations or Aixun T420(D) needs full power (full wave of AC 24V RMS) only for few seconds when it heating up. You can see many measurements in videos on this channel or at eevblog to confirm it. For examle in "coin test" massive genuine 908 tip provides no more 60...65W. Even GVM H3 pass this test.

[@dukeiiigmail]

@@tookitogoconsider the efficiency loss and much higher power consumption, would 10+ min of running time be practical?

[@hoggif]

I wonder how they come up with that kind of UI. Up-button scrolls down, o-button up and down-button is ok. Why they chose to no use up-arrow for up, down-arrow for down the the middle one for ok. There is no way to understand that. If you need portable use, usb-c powered devices and a powerpack are so nice. Pretty rare need though but at least you need no extra psu for that.

[@aixuntech]

Thank you for your kind suggestion, we will improve the operation logic of the three buttons in the next version through OTA software upgrade 😊

[@in2dodo744]

Thanks! Do you know the sequre s99 and s60p ?

[@olDirdey]

is there voltage at the tip?

[@jaro6985]

Good question since the input supply is not grounded.

[@gamerpaddy]

they dont ship it with the battery anymore.. received mine today after ordering it at the video release day and they didnt include a battery for it. overlooked the description where it states "doesnt include battery for shipping reasons". its just two 18650 2600mAh with a 2S bms on a jst connector isnt it? gotta weld my own

[@sdgelectronics]

Yes, just in a 2S configuration

[@chuckthetekkie]

I like how they are using a clone Apple charger. Also keep in mind that their are sometimes putting wights inside to make it feel like a genuine Apple USB-C charger.

[@AdityaMehendale]

It's a shame they didn't inset the USB and handpiece connectors. Every time someone pushes the station back to the wall, it's going to damage the connectors. It would have been such an easy feature to include.. sigh. 5:05

[@M.E63]

One thing I don’t understand is I thought the C210 tips can only do 20W ?

[@jaro6985]

Spec is about 24W continuous 40W peak from JBC, these clones drive the tip much harder. Its not clear how long they will last running at 80W. I would prefer an option in the menu to limit maximum power.

[@thobiasmartin4768]

So they have the tech (in other stations) to detect the 3 types of cartridges but only support 2 and it's a special connector that isn't compatible with other Aixun Handles... Only a 2 cell LiPo so I'm guessing they are boosting the voltage (Power looses) to get the proper power in the cartridge too (all JBC tips being designed for 24v if i'm not mistaken) All of this is really weird and disappointing. I have a 420D station and it's lovely. Modified it quite a bit to fit my needs but the base station is solid so why not use the 420D controller with one less port and made for DC it doesn't make sense to me. (Of course it's more complicated than that but they already have a solid base to start with that's what I meant) Guess I'll have to modify one of these cheaper stations that take all 3 types to use a 6S Li Po and call it a day. Most of them use a switching PSU anyway so it's already DC

[@dukeiiigmail]

210 and 115 run on 12V, guess the 2 pack 18650 battery was boosted up to meet that. 245 runs on 24v which is too much and not supported. As a matter of fact you can run 245 with 12v, it only draws around 30w hence very slow.

[@secozbay]

is it able to plug c115 handle? thanks for the review.

[@sdgelectronics]

Yes, plugs straight in

[@secozbay]

@@sdgelectronics thank you.

[@idr3aming_inc]

Next review brand from forward theirs have many good hot air and solder station

[@cdyoutoob]

Oh why oh why the F did they not support the T245 hand piece. Goes to show that no soldering station can seemingly be designed without at least one stupid avoidable design decision. No support for brass cleaner in the station. Battery powered devices like this should use external systems so users can opt for different sizes and quantities based on their needs. No sleep mode, no IEC mains supply. Seems very targeted to those playing with drone, UAVs,

[@curtlundgren6867]

The included USB power supply is a ripoff of an Apple MacBook power supply, right down to the mechanical details. You should be able to find a UK adapter, or you can use either a polarized or non-polarized 2-conductor power cable plugged directly into the supply. Thanks for the review, well done as always.

[@aliemlek]

👍👍👍👍

[@antibrevity]

I'm glad that AiXun is trying to build a brand, even if it's based on cloned JBC technology, but they could definitely improve the firmware. The arrow buttons here are likely a manufacturing error as the item photos show them pointing in opposite directions. This aspect needs QC attention. The pricing is weird as they want an extra 43USD for 2 extra tips. The marketing is also awful as the AE photos show that this station has "5G technology" for firmware updates and a "neural network control algorithm" for rapid heating. It's hard to stomach that level of stupidity and borders on fraud, even if it's actually just incompetently exuberant Chinese marketing. It also lists both WiFi and Bluetooth, but 1. there's no Bluetooth functions listed or needed, and 2. I have zero desire for my soldering station to be an IoT device connected to China ;). Over-the-air firmware updates are acceptable, I guess, but my experience suggests that these companies never improve their existing products, but instead invest all their effort into upcoming models. Existing customers seem meaningless to them except as potential buyers for their next model.

[@JonnyFix]

He can't win! Wiring reversed, buttons reversed, the joy of buying low end entry level stuff 😄If he can end up with two poorly assembled devices I wonder how many more are like this.

[@MadRC]

Still no new fw for the quirks on this unit. Im a little disappointed in Aiun on this one.

[@adredy]

First thing in here replace battery connector.

[@ricardoferreira2811]

These flimsy crap produts made in china are worthless. Last year I bought a soldering station JBC BT-2BQA 140w for 225€, EU shop, warranty that will work if needed, quality construction light years ahead. Sure, double the price but 10x better than this toy garbage.

[@sdgelectronics]

This is one of the cases where the construction is better than the JBC equipment I own.

[@thomasleerriem6872]

You need to be a handy person when you buy chinese junk: flipping buttons, reseating connectors so they are at the correct spot etc...

[@jstro-hobbytech]

Theyre just shitting out statiins ehh haha. I have the t3a and t3b and my bext will be a metcal or rral jbc. Ali express is decent for gear like that but you cant get them to honor a warranty to save your life. They want a bbc narrated video documentary on every moment spent with a device. You jump through hoops and they still yellow dick ya. Ive been ripped off on ali so many times. The dispute option is just smoke and mirrors. The seller ultimately decides, its not like amazon or a reputable site. Your reviews are great. You must make a fortune on local buy and sell sites haha. I donate my old gear.