Do Or Die | The Steve Dangle Podcast

[@Hawkeye-4077]

The leafiest outcome would be them tying it up only to lose in game 7

[@CP_SplitTheDefense]

My girlfriend said this today 😭

[@Merc306.]

Theyll take 4 and 5 lose in 6

[@people3865]

I been telling that one all day 😂😂😂 3 OT wins then an 11-0 loss in game 7, at home

[@Dawg476]

Overtime

[@Wuwoot9863]

Dont forget the goalie on the other end. Florida legend ALEX LYON.

[@willbobig]

“They don’t want it. They don’t skate, they don’t score, they don’t hit, they don’t fight, they float. They don’t hate to lose.”

[@chebatenaley2134]

if ya cant win dont play! 😂 leafs need to go out and sign Jim, Jim and Jim for real

[@LightSpeedRecords]

Mannnn sadly the whole game I was yelling at the tv “LAY THEM OUT FOR KNIES” AND IT NEVER HAPPENED WTF

[@VED34]

it’s so sad because this is such an accurate way to describe this core. Time to move on

[@willbobig]

@@VED34 All I could think of during G3 was this scene. Resonates with me real hard. Nuke the core.

[@showdown2006]

@@chebatenaley2134 so y’all 3 are named Jim?

[@ADragonNamedSpyro]

Bennett, Tkachuck and Cousins have shook the leafs core, Theyre playing like they just got their ass kicked by the school bully and they came back for lunch money the next day/game

[@jacobfleenor1714]

Speaking of O'Reilly being susceptible to the locker room bad vibes - same thing in buffalo. different bad vibes but he's for sure impacted by the guys around him

[@scallaghan61]

pure Steve depression until the pizza

[@joshbehehe]

That blue lipstick bit completely jinxed leaf’s nation. Damn box head

[@act_morris]

“Don’t do that please, this is a brand new table” 😂😂😂

[@ddmath]

Thanks, I needed a laugh to start this show. No matter how bad, or whatever, we all need to remember that it's just a game folks.

[@wilseph1]

Someone cue up the Ilya Bryzgalov clip!

[@709mash]

Hear hear.

[@DonutsRgud13]

Why heff to be med?

[@wookiev344]

Millions of dollars, people also depends on jobs of playoffs. Umm it's an elite league. Not a beer league. Just a game??? Lmaoo found the poser😂😂😂

[@DonutsRgud13]

@@wookiev344 all of that based on a game bud. Get your priorities straight and stay in school

[@nolananderson4782]

The Leafs and finding new devastating ways to lose in the playoffs, name a more iconic duo

[@B2Roland]

It isn't new. The leafs are a joke. The rest of the league doesn't even think about them.

[@katienoelle97]

And this is the Kraken without McCann or Burakovsky!

[@philtorrez4198]

Kraken have serious depth, something that matters in the playoffs!! Who knew!?!?!?

[@people3865]

​@@philtorrez4198Not Dubas! Lol

[@jameson1239]

@@people3865 the leafs depth is the only reason they scored last game

[@powwowken2760]

I think Dubas probably keeps his job at the end of the year, although it might only be a short extension. Keefe on the other hand has coached his way out the door in my opinion, all of his systems were easily solved in both rounds and yet he doesn't seem to make any adjustments, let alone have a real backup plan. The best example is the drop-pass focused breakout is getting torn apart by Florida, so what do we do? Ice the puck repeatedly while trying for low-percentage stretch passes... That's all we've got? REALLY?!

[@theSoundOfAWomanWhoLovesYou]

I agree with all of your complaints about Keefes coaching, but the issue with that is how closely related he and Dubas are. I don't think we will see Dubas sans Keefe for an extended period of time, which is unfortunate as Dubas really proved himself to be a capable GM this trade deadline.

[@jameson1239]

So I was looking at coaches available if they let keefe go and the one that really stood out was Bruce Cassidy

[@LetsGoWrongboarding]

@@RG-lr4pk he would say that, that's his current coach

[@erikmacaluso]

​@@RG-lr4pk"the same guy who can't build a winning team said his coach is one of the best coaches of the last fifteen years" lmfaoooooooo

[@Kraken_What]

I’m happy Steve is FINALLY losing his blinders on the Kraken! CPA last night was the loudest I’ve heard an arena in a very long time!!!

[@bunsw2070]

Climate Promise Area. Sounds like a bathhouse exclusively for bottoms. Should be The Krack House.

[@Hockeyhobo89]

I’m honestly scared of what this team will look like next year.

[@mathesonrittenhouse]

Worst, and therefore likeliest, scenario: Leafs win next two games, management decides losing in six isn't so bad and nothing changes.

[@lpquagmire3621]

The Leafs got out of the first round for the first time in almost 20 years; that's something to build on for next season.

[@shawnagar6016]

if swept there might be some changes to this teams core...

[@idk2865]

yeah sorta think we wont be good next season lol idk

[@Merc306.]

​@@mathesonrittenhousebeen sayin this!

[@NaturlDisastr]

Drove a work van around Toronto with 435,000km on it. It burned oil, the brakes cut out, the rear leaf spring broke through the floor, and the back door didn't lock. I kinda miss it

[@tayj1008]

When Adam 1st mentioned Pizza i thought Panago was coming back

[@TekkTekkk]

been waiting for this pod all day 😂

[@solaireflaire7113]

Jesse becoming an eye test guy, absolutely losing his mind here

[@yardsaler5417]

Jesse’s been out to lunch like twice a pod for a year on his takes on players

[@StonedSpagooter]

@@yardsaler5417 Jesse has never had great takes he just always jumps in with common sense we are all thinking when one of the other says something stupid

[@FilipeBrasAlmeida]

It hurts. The pain is real. Irrational, yet very real. But there was solace to be found in this episode of commiseration. Thank you, kind sirs.

[@basedvisa]

I miss the panego pizza presents in the intro

[@DonutsRgud13]

It’s good to see these guys continue after all these years still supporting Toronto amateur hockey. Good on ya guys 😂

[@JeremySeago]

The "which team shouldn't get the #1 pick" segment aged like milk immediately. I'm surprised none of you mentioned Kyle Beach

[@CatarinaPereira-op9pd]

I know that this would be miraculous but what a story if the Leafs had a comeback. I know…..I’m rolling my eyes as I write this.

[@Kraken_What]

I’m happy Steve is FINALLY losing his blinders on the Kraken!! CPA last night was the loudest I’ve heard an arena in a long time!

[@sc1344]

That b nice, but there is no way in hell. Hell, theres no way they win the next game

[@mattwynn6190]

The Pinkerton/MTG factoid might be my most favorite tidbit of information I've ever heard on this pod

[@lastsinnersa8002]

Well, the Blackhawks got Bedard...One wonders whether the reaction to Game 4 or the Blackhawks getting Bedard will be the more explosive reaction in the next podcast.

[@ThatsBadTV]

Adam absolutely nailed and summed up exactly how I feel just before the first segment ended

[@InsignificantNick]

Going from an ASMR video to this will be intense.

[@randysgutful]

Keefe is definitely done here. I'm not sure how many times he needs to see this same story play out before realising playoff hockey is different. As for the players, its just a shame our two very best guys can never elevate their game when it matters. That equals failure every time. Other teams have stars that explode in the playoffs, ours trip over themselves. 9 years of the Shanaplan and we're frankly no closer to winning anything.

[@motelbobby4104]

9 years and we're better off with bozak and dion? Give your head a shake jeez everyone so hyperbolic all the time no wonder leaf fans are such an embarassment all the time

[@deltagolavista1]

1:21:00 The Montreal Canadiens did not improve their draft standing last year since they finished last, so they can still 'win' the lottery 2 more times in 5 years. The Devils, who picked second, (and now the Blackhawks) however are effected by the 5 year rule.

[@maxpayne9041]

Suffering for a full year really sucks fans want a reason to be happy for once i think we deserve it.

[@jasonlippert747]

i fell that the kinship with the Minnesota Wild growing by the second lol. I'm pulling for you guys as always. I love wathcing your team, and hate what I'm seeing right now because it is so familiar to me as a Wild fan.

[@Trustkillx]

The curse is the blue lipstick hahah

[@Rob78169]

Lol. Cant believe Marner after the game said... Got lots of looks, just not falling in!! Are you kidding me.

[@sc1344]

Talk about being delusional

[@roguewavecreative]

this is so funny. I know it’s schtick but it’s like SNL hockey. Meet the new boss same as the old boss. This is how this team has consistently played almost since the beginning. Consistency. That’s it. Plus, Florida is doing a really good job of mucking it up and BOB right now is bobbing:)

[@zardeth9591]

We want Florida 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Let's add this to "It was 3-1"

[@F34RTHED34DMAN]

Biggest american fan reporting for duty😂

[@philtorrez4198]

Cheers bud!

[@armthesharks6904]

I'm at least top 5

[@TrueCanadianTV]

Been waiting for this since the game ended

[@spencerabdo5144]

I love being in California and hearing these adds. Like “Damn, I should add a dip to my order. You know, from the pizza joint half a continent away from me.”

[@ryanbreeze2312]

Core memory unlocked from Steve’s shirt!

[@raygaub9861]

Negative or not, this fan base has been fairly positive to the point of delusion with their defense of Dubas and the Core until this point. You guys really hung in there with them and are a great fanbase.

[@TheFusionmix]

Bobrovsky looked at Playoff Philip Grubauer and went "oh hey I can do that too"

[@ngrosskurth]

42:00 I'm pretty sure the Bruins didn't lose 3 consecutive games all season either, and I'm not sure if I should feel vindicated or more pissed off the deeper Florida goes.

[@Waders27]

Boston lost 3 straight just before the all star break.

[@ngrosskurth]

@@Waders27 that's right. I blocked that from my memory 🤣

[@aaamm4010]

Man I take this Krakens team over the leafs any day of the week they are a pleasure to watch

[@aaamm4010]

@@theseanie9958 for a second year team simply amazing , you are correct it's none stop

[@RichardCalder67]

Also unfortunately they have lost 4 games in a row once this season, the western road trip. VGK, SJS, LAK and ANA, they haven't lost 4 in regulation, but OT actually matters in the playoffs :(

[@thebeagles2025]

Game 4 is not a do or die game. Game 3 was. Can they still do it? I believe they can. I believe in this team. But for the first time in my life, during the fifth game against Tampa, I said to my wife, "If they can't do this, I'm done. If they don't care about us enough to do this, then why should I care about them? If they don't win this series, I'll never watch another hockey game." And here we are. After round one was over, I thought, New York, Boston, Tampa, Colorado.... they're all gone.... all the Leafs roadblocks are gone. There is no way they don't win the Stanley Cup this year. And again, here we are. It's almost like they think winning the first round is enough for us. I said to someone today, they all collected their final paychecks the last week of the regular season. Maybe they don't like playing for free..... I love this team, but there isn't a single player that I love more than the team. They do not need a re-build. But something needs to be done. They grit and heart. They need a Doug Gilmour or a Wendell Clark. This summer, I would offer Auston Matthews for Matthew Tkachuk. I'd keep Marner because I believe if you put him on a line with two well trained chimpanzees, they'd both score, 30 goals. They'll never get value for Tavares, but I'd do what I could to get rid of his cap hit. And Murray is dead weight and I'd try to trade him for a 25 year old Giordano, if he even exists. This hockey club has done this before. Go Leafs.

[@Ketch013]

My brother and I started using fiddlidipoo as a verb, which means to blow some huge great thing by some small but really bad other thing. Like, for example, the Bruins just fiddlidipooed the greatest season in NHL history.

[@wilseph1]

Steven aggressively eating the Pizza Nova wing.

[@mightymacaque]

When you started the pizza sponsor part, Nova wasn't the company i was expecting. They're pretty good though.

[@RetroCruze]

I couldnt even bring myself to watch the LFR

[@CrimsonRaven]

They keep ranting and raving about the Kraken's depth: McCann has been skating and might be back soon.

[@MichaelSchwerdtfeger]

got to have heart lots and lots of HEART!!!!

[@RichardCalder67]

lol "why isn't a better guy ever the coach's guy?" Mitch Marner enters the chat

[@Magicalmetric]

This "gun to the earth" meme is my favourite.

[@frasergerrard9651]

The Milkiest outcome would be Steve Dangle coming in as an e-bug and shutting Florida the f down. And then Steve chugging a galon of milk on live tv. Milky Leafs for the win!!!!!!!!!

[@bradreid2906]

I can not be the only person that see willy play hard when the game or path is easy. Any time he has resistance he pulls up or turns away. Rewatch when florida players drive the net around him he does nothing but lay down a welcome mat doesnt try to impede at all. WILLY ONLY PLAYS WHEN ITS EASY

[@A1-Franksauce]

Here's a thought. The defense pairings aren't working. How about maybe um, we switch it? Rielly - Brodie Gustafsson - Holl Gio - Mccabe

[@InsignificantNick]

37:11, that was an all-time "yeah" from Jesse.

[@PpP-dr1od]

The next 2 games I don't think they're playing to win the series, I think they need to play to keep the band together. Team is getting broken up unless the series puts up literally any fight

[@johnnycoladrums]

The guys monkey-pawed Bedard to the Blackhawks. Good job guys!

[@morganlsmusic]

Mitch Marner saying you can’t get frustrated.. has apparently never needed something enough to understand there needs to be a feeling of added pressure or a “frustrated” situation to change. We haven’t brought up the definition of insanity why?

[@jimlangdon1947]

One more win together - before Leaf Core 4 get smart enough to destroy the Core 4 playoff disappointments. 😀 Go Leafs go!

[@motoalley]

Back in October, the Leafs lost 4 games in a row, 2 being over time losses, Oct. 24th loss to Vegas, 27th- Sharks, 29th- Kings and 30th- Ducks

[@markdotinc8371]

Absolutely insane that im hearing these guys talk about "bad behaviour" without even a whisper of the Chicago Blackhawks

[@rayevans7484]

There are dirty areas on the ice.....the Leafs top 6 have no interest in going to any of them.

[@wavydavy6255]

That’s just a lie outside nylander

[@albionredzepovski3096]

Congrats on the Pizza Nova sponsor!! I know the team that built and manages their website!!

[@krisn9704]

Honestly rather see you guys happy eating pizza then talking about the leafs. :)

[@johanjarvinen]

Impressive how quick it's been forgotten and forgiven that the Canadiens drafted Logan Mailloux in the first round in 2021. How are they not up there with Chicago as the worst team to reward right now?

[@jameson1239]

Drafting a 17 year old who was convicted of defamation and “offensive photography” and paying a $1650 fine for sharing a partners nudes without her consent is a little bit different from an entire organization systematically covering up a coach raping a player for over half a decade. there’s a scale of bad and those two things are nowhere close.

[@drfirewater]

I would lovethe story if woll comes in and wins the series. A rookie goaltender saving the day would be the story of the century

[@post1113]

PS The biggest choke in NHL history was the Leafs blowing a 3-1 to Montreal. The Bruins lost to a team that won the President's trophy last year and are in at least the final 4 this year. Montreal missed the playoffs the year before and finished dead last the year after. Bottom line: Boston lost to a good team, Toronto didn't.

[@cowgrrrlll]

this cats knights final is gonna be nuts lol

[@jakerossi5805]

A little bit of a nit pick about this episode, was the fooling around with the mic volumes too much. Its been happening for a few episodes now.

[@TheBassistSOTD]

Adam didn’t have to come at me that hard with the pre breakup 😢

[@jeremyfaller4338]

Definitely wasn't me, refreshing for 45 minutes for this one... 😂

[@jessecarroll2229]

"Who is Sam Bennett"? LoL. The real one!

[@richardfitzsimmons4312]

Adam says it's like a break up we know is coming...like in Seinfeld where Kramer invites George to Pomodoro's to break up for with him for Allison...LOL...The Leafs have just invited us to Pomodoro's!!!!

[@TheFlizash]

I think all the vitriol towards the Leaf fans is stupid. They root for their team. Passionately. They haven't a meaningful Playoff run since the early 90s. But because they are upset that their team is underperforming and are a large vocal group they are vilified. They're fans. Plus no one criticizes their favorite team like Leaf fans. Do the fans of the Oilers forget that their team was a diaper fire not that long ago. Vancouver=Circus Calgary is a mess. Winnipeg cannibalizes themselves . Montreal is actually on a great trajectory but still picking high in the draft. I'm a guy on the outside as a 30yr+ Blackhawks fan that is ashamed of my favorite team for gross negligence in trying to sweep a sexual predator under the rug and the brainless mess that Stan Bowman vomited up. I get why people are turned off by Chicago. The Leafs and their fans get tomatoes thrown at them because they are numerous, vocal, and care about their team. It makes no sense to me.

[@T69B]

I like the way you move.

[@justinmiller5660]

they are vilified because they can never give the respect their opponents deserve. its always "X team is trash" and "the leafs gave up and choked" it's never "X team outplayed the leafs and deserved to win." if they did that people wouldn't have a problem with vocal fans. they also attack other teams fan base as if its the same as attacking the team. leafs fans are trash humans and the rest of the NHL fan base is loving watching them crumble.

[@Zazzaro703]

@@justinmiller5660 this, that guy Sam on Sportsnet went on bagging on Panther fans saying they were a joke and don’t care about their team anywhere near as much as Leaf fans last night after the game. Feel sorry for the genuine Leaf fans but like Dallas Cowboy fans the loudest and most obnoxious of them paint them all as clowns.

[@TheFlizash]

@Zazzaro703 Historically Panther fans have not shown up to watch their team. But they aren't the only team with that issue. I hope Florida starts getting the respect they deserve. Matthew Tkachuk is a bonified STAR!! Absolute problem out there against the other teams.

[@justinmiller5660]

@Matthew Cook lol. You do know the Leafs player took out Sam, right? He tripped 23 and then fell into his own goalie. You not knowing that tells me you didn't watch the game and are only talking out of your ass.

[@chadwodraska2607]

Different between Toronto and Kraken is heart and balls

[@stevenlopez1717]

If you were GM, would you execute a one-for-one trade, Marner for Tkachuk? I sure as hell would...

[@davidedwards6308]

Jesse yelling about analytics being bad while claiming they exist for a purpose that they 100% are not actually designed for is a *chef's kiss*

[@usf1250]

If you are a person that believes in superstitions..Jesse did say the leafs would sweep whomever was the winner of boston/Florida

[@Blackwingdesigns]

The leafs were literally lucky against the lightning. Then the luck ran out

[@jaskiranbedi1]

Played on decent at times but found ways. G2 played well and then that come back from 4-1 down. Otherwise was pretty much making their own luck and at least trying. Now they look like they can’t buy an ounce of work

[@LightSpeedRecords]

That’s why it was 4-2

[@LightSpeedRecords]

That’s why they got 111 points in the season ok bud

[@slipperynodd578]

@@LightSpeedRecords they were the worse team in 4 of the 6 games, how would regular season points have ANYTHING to do with the playoffs.

[@jp783]

I'm leaving this comment everywhere because no one is talking about it: Florida is beating Toronto because of the NEUTRAL ZONE. End. Of. Story. FLORIDA OWNS THE NEUTRAL ZONE BECAUSE KEEFE REFUSES TO LOCK OR TRAP. THAT has lost Toronto this series.

[@DirtyMoneyHipHop]

Ask the team who gets the first pick if they think the lottery is unfair, haha!

[@iangurudata]

1:27:00 Dear Jesse, Your payment is in the mail. Sincerely, This Habs fan 😂

[@gameboard1]

Speaking of changes, IF they lose in game 4! If you can't move Tavares do you stripe his C? We talk about the team having no emotion I don't know if I've ever even seen him blink!

[@nickperkowski2407]

So one thing about the Marner giveaway thing, the NHL apparently scores a turnover as a giveaway or a takeaway, not as both. So Marner’s giveaways must have been counted as panther’s takeaway’s. Make sense cuz the stats that get published come from the home arena scorekeeper.

[@jeffmajor4869]

They should change their name from the Toronto Maple Leafs to the Toronto Amtrak, considering how often this team's season ends in an absolute train wreck. I've always been known as a homer/leafs positivist, but man, this team is hard to cheer for, especially when their best players are harder to find on the ice than Jimmy Hoffa.

[@karlbork6039]

Goaltending is propelling the Panthers. Bob is finally stopping the high shots, challenging the Leafs. He has flipped a switch.

[@philtorrez4198]

Leafs should have lost round 1 honestly, but that’s the playoffs sometimes. Would have been cool to see Florida get their revenge against Tampa, but this blue and white team will do I guess. (Not a Tampa fan btw) ✌️

[@ju17e]

and people called me all kinds of names when I said the leafs got out played the whole Tampa series and Florida wasn’t gonna let them boys slide like that…. Series isn’t over but 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@vampirefroggie]

Confirm on John Lester lol loved him on the Cubs tho

[@dcarota]

As a Sharks fan, watching the current Leafs seems very similiar to when the Sharks were at their peak.

[@turnerkirby2508]

1:31:05 - The face of someone who just wants to scream

[@logand3957]

At 1:10:05 I need to know who they picked out of CAR vs NJD and EDM vs VGK thanks 😂

[@danieldosso2455]

Bedard's going to the Windy City

[@wilseph1]

Let them eat, Adam Wylde!

[@DerpDerpityDerp]

You see what the Leafs did guys? They French fried when they should've pizzad. If you French fry when you should pizza, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME!⛷️

[@carletonrutherford1799]

0:30 You and Jesse are so mean to poor Stevie D, with your needling! He just needs a hug.

[@killzone866]

at 16:00 when they are talking about McCabe/Holl on the breakaway for Duclair, Holl has like 3 dudes on his side, and McCabe in is no mans land. Holl has no support. If Holl takes Duclair out he will let Verhaeghe just sail up the wing and be wide opened, as no matter what Holl does, McCabe is not in support at all. What a ridiculous read on that play.

[@etienneroussel6926]

There are many ways to win a series. They just chose the toughest.

[@carlosalvador98]

No to Chicago but in retrospect Chicago ended up getting the 1st overall pick...ironic LOL