SEA POWER Kirov Supremacy! || New Naval Simulation

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Wolfpack345

Wolfpack345

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@IowanLawman
@IowanLawman Ай бұрын
Whoever drove that A-6E that dropped the cluster bomb on the destroyer is a certified Chad. lmfao
@IIIJG52
@IIIJG52 Ай бұрын
That felt clever to use the missiles as a screen to move in
@metzgerov
@metzgerov Ай бұрын
GigaChad
@sqike001ton
@sqike001ton Ай бұрын
they did that on an Iran ship tho it wasn't a destroyer just a costal patrol ship
@blademaster2390
@blademaster2390 23 күн бұрын
@@sqike001tonpretty sure that the cluster was dropped right down the ship’s exhaust stack too
@Wolfpack345
@Wolfpack345 Ай бұрын
Reuploaded due to editing errors. Sorry about that
@CptJohnBlack
@CptJohnBlack Ай бұрын
Happens to the best of us, no shame and a reasonable response. Loved the video, awesome how they've modelled the Kirov and its weapons.
@adamtruong1759
@adamtruong1759 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah, I honestly didn't think too much of it.
@SDJW2016
@SDJW2016 Ай бұрын
I don't blame you Wolfy... Just have fun
@MikeToll-uh4kb
@MikeToll-uh4kb Ай бұрын
no worries, although I was halfway through when you took it down... oops...
@ClaymoreM18
@ClaymoreM18 Ай бұрын
No worries, definitely excited to see the video tomorrow asap!
@ADirtyScrub
@ADirtyScrub Ай бұрын
I've been WAITING for a new Sea Power video since the last one, I CANNOT wait for this game to launch next month.
@Wolfpack345
@Wolfpack345 Ай бұрын
It is coming up!
@voidwalker9223
@voidwalker9223 Ай бұрын
yes you can
@dieterhrabak4947
@dieterhrabak4947 Ай бұрын
Gotta give those trawlers a salute.. Sailing unfazed around some very intense NATO vs Soviet Navy exchanges..
@TomCouger
@TomCouger Ай бұрын
The tuna must flow
@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA
@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA Ай бұрын
Tame the atlantic, Ross Tiger. Free the tuna. I’ll make you emperor.
@Gachaheathunter109
@Gachaheathunter109 19 күн бұрын
​@@TomCougerFr
@shikaru808
@shikaru808 Ай бұрын
I could have sworn I was hallucinating that I saw this video earlier lol
@Wolfpack345
@Wolfpack345 Ай бұрын
Haha
@nomad5482
@nomad5482 Ай бұрын
Same I took a nap and 😂thought I was dreaming then I went to look the video up and it was gone..
@Radiolarian_Dak
@Radiolarian_Dak Ай бұрын
I was thinking I Dreamt it this morning.
@MrZerdel90
@MrZerdel90 Ай бұрын
Same hahahahahaha
@Klonering
@Klonering Ай бұрын
I though: When the f did i post a comment under this video?
@garrettsandman3198
@garrettsandman3198 Ай бұрын
I’ll repost my original comment. Thank you for actually playing this game correctly, so much more enjoyable to watch than others who don’t know how to ask for identification or use radar the entire time etc. please keep these sea power videos coming
@cmdrpanorpa8631
@cmdrpanorpa8631 Ай бұрын
I think Stealth17 is definitely learning, but it helps to have a background of knowledge to draw on definitely can see that in Wolfpack videos.
@MadScorpable
@MadScorpable Ай бұрын
Can't agree with you more
@Paveway-chan
@Paveway-chan Ай бұрын
Was wolfpack actually running his radar the entire time tho? Wasn't he spending most of the time those E-6s were flying overhead with his air search radar off as if he could stay undetected by them?
@sirboomsalot4902
@sirboomsalot4902 Ай бұрын
@@Paveway-chanHe wasn’t, that’s what OP is trying to say, but it was worded a little off
@andrewruss5824
@andrewruss5824 Ай бұрын
​@cmdrpanorpa8631 crazy how he didnt name drop its stealth assumed
@DaBestEmperor
@DaBestEmperor Ай бұрын
Considering that Kirov fired off all her missiles and most of her escorts are knocked out of action, it would make more sense to return to the Soviet Union. In the Atlantic, it would just get taken out by a carrier task force, with no way to fight back. Also, a US task force and capital ship was sunk, I'd say mission accomplished, time to head home. Really awesome engagement though, and a great showing of the P-700, didn't even need the Slava's missiles.
@forcea1454
@forcea1454 Ай бұрын
Kirov would be held back to defend the SSBN Bastions, Soviets didn't really have any intention of conducting commerce raiding into the Atlantic, not with their best surface ships.
@ShadowGJ
@ShadowGJ Ай бұрын
Overall, I don't think one would realistically see Kirov operating far beyond Soviet or Soviet-held territory, without air cover and somewhere to retreat to fairly quickly. As great as this engagement went, Kirov was left spent and poorly escorted, its position known to a surely vengeful enemy. Not only is her ill-considered mission thoroughly compromised, so is her ability to return to a friendly port. If not caught by a carrier task force, by submarine or air attacks coming from as far east as Britain. Sure, you've dealt a significant blow to the Americans, but nowhere near war-winning. And she's done, so far out in the Atlantic. Critical resource spent. This scenario had to ignore a whole bunch of context and have NATO make very questionable decisions (i.e. try to engage Kirov's group with an old-fashioned Iowa SAG as opposed to a carrier TF) for it to play out the way it did. But this is mostly a demonstration, and a fairly plausible one, at that. It's not a walk in the park, NATO still fights hard, and there's a lot of tension. Definitely engaging.
@Goose_in_pants
@Goose_in_pants 10 күн бұрын
@@forcea1454 As far as I know, Kirovs were designed to be raiders, however not against transport and even not against carrier task forces, but against NATO SSBN. And during development it turned out, it's has both massive SAM and ASM arsenal to be a core ship of soviet task force.
@sdem9
@sdem9 Ай бұрын
The coordinated flying of the Granits was pretty awesome indeed!
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 21 күн бұрын
Really makes one wonder if they could perform so IRL or is just like the s300 which is formidable bit sometimes not so much
@Goose_in_pants
@Goose_in_pants 10 күн бұрын
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul They could. I mean they are large enough to carry enough electronics of this time for that purpose, especially since RTOS for them isn't too hard to implement. Moreover, Granits even have their own ecm station! Their problem is not their capabilities, it's their size, because it's limiting size of ships able to carry them significantly. Tho we don't know it it really would be that effective, direct confrontation have never happened. I would say, it's sad, but no, WW3 is not a fun event.... Still in all naval wargames I played, Kirov and Shipwrecks, well, wrecked, until they had ammo and support ships
@CzarOfMars
@CzarOfMars Ай бұрын
This video felt like a whole war movie honestly. From the suspenseful buildup with planes popping in and out of view, initial skirmishes and moments of tension as the soviets take the first hits, to the climax of finding Iowa and the cinematic views of swarms of granits diving in. Incredible work man
@BlackslooklikeHarambe
@BlackslooklikeHarambe Ай бұрын
SKIRMISH 😂😂😂
@Kittalumi16
@Kittalumi16 Ай бұрын
Wanted to say before reupload: Kirov, in all cases, would be supported by Tu-95RTs (Ту-95РЦ), maritime reconnaissance and targeting aircraft, because missiles greatly outrange sensors of the ship. The plane is in the game, saw it in Enigma's unit review. In real life there also was (and maybe even is rn, but new) satellite system made specially for navy to help find and target US carrier strike groups, but I doubt we'll ever get it in game (maybe as a mod, I hope) Amazing video anyway! I'll watch it again rn. Can't get enough of Sea Power, and your videos really are the best out there
@JustJohn505
@JustJohn505 Ай бұрын
We don't have alot of info on the campaign yet, maybe there will be satellites flying by just like in cold waters campaign map
@rawnukles
@rawnukles Ай бұрын
After years of reading about Granat missile swarms it was good to see them doing it. I was wondering how they would target the missiles and I thought that maybe they would fire them with out accurate range to target. As long as they fly them down the bearing of an identified contact they could let the missiles find the range. Assuming target was within max range. The Tu-95RT makes much more sense though.
@Kittalumi16
@Kittalumi16 Ай бұрын
@JustJohn505 it would be amazing, I hope we will have control of more than one group, not the entire fleet, but maybe at least land based aviation for recon and ASW Or maybe we will be able to create a group from available ships in a port, according to the task? But this game is already 11/10 for me, just how it is right now, lol
@ColonelAckerson117
@ColonelAckerson117 Ай бұрын
Also in real live the Air defense wont work and the crew probably sold half the fuel for some extra cash.
@bigpoppa1234
@bigpoppa1234 Ай бұрын
@@rawnuklesThey could also use A50 Mainstay and TU126 Moss AEW planes.
@bimmerbomber2002
@bimmerbomber2002 Ай бұрын
Hey Wolf, great video! It's always interesting to watch how all these different Cold War ships and weapon systems interact, and Sea Power looks like a bright light in the future of naval sims. With regard to the P700, its delivery systems like the Kirov, and sinking enemy battlegroups, you *need* saturation strikes to push a missile attack through layered enemy defenses, and the best way to achieve that is through mass. You have 20 P700s onboard Kirov, use all of them. If you're attacking an enemy formation that justifies the use of a complex system like the P700, then that automatically justifies expending your entire payload in one go. That's what this missile system is designed to do, it's a fleet-hunting swarm, and the more missiles you commit to the strike, the more wolves you have on the prowl. In committing a portion of your available rounds to an attack instead of the entire set, you not only lose out on mass that you already have sitting around waiting for ships to kill, but you weaken your initial strike on target, and you *also* weaken your follow-up strike on your remaining rounds because you now only have a handful of shots left. You've essentially condemned yourself to a pair of small-mass strikes on a target that requires a large-mass strike to eliminate, and if the enemy eats up your first strike because of its smaller size, you can be for darn sure they're going to eat up the follow-up as well. When it comes to saturation missile strikes and mass, never be afraid to over-kill an enemy fleet. You should be terrified of under-killing it. Rationing ammunition on your ships is never a bad thing, but that's only a rule of thumb, not a hard guideline. As I stated above, P700 is designed to be used en-masse, as a swarm. Think of it as one big missile. Save it for something big and valuable, but when you find something worth using it on, use all of it.
@DecidedlyNinja
@DecidedlyNinja Ай бұрын
Given that Kirov just fired all of his missiles (fortunately at a conveniently-placed enemy capital ship), I'd say the sensible course of action would be to turn around and go home. What's he supposed to do in the Atlantic with no missiles?
@Petidani0330
@Petidani0330 Ай бұрын
Maybe the Soviets can resupply it at sea? Not sure if it could be done with those huge missiles though.
@technopriest6708
@technopriest6708 Ай бұрын
It could possibly try to make for cuba for ressuply there
@TheThingInMySink
@TheThingInMySink Ай бұрын
@@Petidani0330 Considering pretty much everyone still to this day struggles with underway replenishment of missiles, and the fact that I don't think the soviets ever had a ship to do this with, I'd highly doubt it. Theoretically doable tho.
@taiko1237
@taiko1237 Ай бұрын
I suppose they could possibly sneak some reloads out on a converted and sufficiently disguised cargo vessel, but Granits are probably too big to allow reloading at sea (if Soviet ships are even designed for that, which I rather suspect they weren't and aren't). It might work with smaller missiles though.
@Petidani0330
@Petidani0330 Ай бұрын
@@TheThingInMySink Thanks for the info!
@forrestallison1879
@forrestallison1879 Ай бұрын
Oh my God the moment where the missiles all fly into formation so that they can strike at once. I want this game so bad
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 Ай бұрын
Granits are works of art honestly. Especially considering the state of soviet electeonocs developlent.
@mandoreforger6999
@mandoreforger6999 14 күн бұрын
@@egoalter1276there is about a 0% chance they operate as effectively as claimed in real engagements. No Soviet weapon ever did. Other Soviet AS missiles had a pretty poor track record.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 13 күн бұрын
@@mandoreforger6999 The only combat use of soviet AShMs I know of was Silkworms by Iran, there they worked as advertised, got defeated by chaff. There were a few launch failiurs in excercises from the past two decades, but the state of the russian fleet is not indicative of the soviet one. They were also cash strapped, but they would rather keep half the fleet in drydock for a decade than operate nonfunctional ships.
@Max-xl9qv
@Max-xl9qv Ай бұрын
They used to mark themselves in red color in their maps; so Red forces should retain red color in tactical view regardless of what side the player is on.
@ZX12
@ZX12 Ай бұрын
This tbh, as Opfor main blue color as ally is a bit off putting for me
@Max-xl9qv
@Max-xl9qv Ай бұрын
@@ZX12 I wonder, is there a wish-list or other feedback for the devs?
@sirboomsalot4902
@sirboomsalot4902 Ай бұрын
@@Max-xl9qvThey are pretty active on the Microprose discord
@ZX12
@ZX12 Ай бұрын
@@Max-xl9qv maybe there's something on Microprose discord server idk
@mrwolverinio
@mrwolverinio Ай бұрын
They've already said you can change any of the map marker colors using RGB values. The game is going to be very modable through .ini files and text editing.
@martinpalmer6203
@martinpalmer6203 Ай бұрын
the most important thing about SSN-22 Sunburn was the speed, they are Supersonic SEA SKIMMERS, if you can ditch the AEW aircraft , and sneak a few Sovremenny's in close enough to launch, those missiles are absolutely amongst the most deadly Anti-Ship missiles ever made because the defending ships will only get one shot at stopping them, they are simply too fast to reliably counter
@stratos2
@stratos2 Ай бұрын
what I would love to see is creators like you sharing missions with other creators to challenge them. Maybe do a mission exchange with Stealth17 or so? That would mitigate the effect of you knowing what will happen because you made the mission. Also, glad to see the voice intros back for sea power, the text only ones weren't quite my jam.
@NovaTrap1312
@NovaTrap1312 Ай бұрын
That is such a good idea, would also boost views for all the participating channels I assume.
@joedirt861
@joedirt861 Ай бұрын
this. so much this. exactly this right here
@alanhouk1427
@alanhouk1427 Ай бұрын
yeah, this is definitely the way to go about it.
@heinzriemann3213
@heinzriemann3213 18 күн бұрын
comment for vis
@Sig509
@Sig509 Ай бұрын
Kirov did a lot of damage, and the mission is a success, however there was no point continuing to the Atlantic. Rockets were spent, escort destroyed, so IRL just return to Sankt Petersburg to (hopefully) rearm and get new escort, and there would be plenty of US task forces in the Atlantic, not to mention land based aircrafts, definetly from the UK and Iceland, and depending on this conflict configuration also France, Netherlands ect.
@christopherplantijn3798
@christopherplantijn3798 Ай бұрын
@Wolfpack345 I love your tone. You're the only gaming channel I watch. I vicariously "play" these simulation games by just watching you. Your tone is great. It's narrative and not too over-the-top. Most gaming channel creators overdo their reactions and shout in fake excitement over the smallest little things that happen in game, and edit their content with zooms, overlays, and immature sound effects. I appreciate your mature tonal balance, and I wish you the best as your channel grows. Don't forget what makes you great! Thanks for making the great videos and good luck on the next ones.
@22788ocheeva
@22788ocheeva Ай бұрын
Love all of the Red Storm Rising style content. This book terrified me as a teenager.
@ScorpionXXXVII
@ScorpionXXXVII Ай бұрын
LOL Those Granites coming in is intense. Have to love these games. Never want to see these AMAZING MACHINES have to used for real. Cool to see what they are capable of in the virtual world. Cant wait for this one to come out. Thanks for the vid.
@WGi-q3s
@WGi-q3s Ай бұрын
The graphics and attention to detail in this sim is beautiful
@nickcarlson171
@nickcarlson171 Ай бұрын
I like learning different types of ships and subs from your videos 🙂🙂 it’s awesome!
@Wolfpack345
@Wolfpack345 Ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@artemisfowl7191
@artemisfowl7191 Ай бұрын
Someone else posted a video of all the units in the game, including state of the art MiG-28 fighters
@anzaca1
@anzaca1 Ай бұрын
@@artemisfowl7191 MiG-28s don't exist.
@Notairus
@Notairus Ай бұрын
I like how wolfpack uploaded this after my exam ended lol.
@Wolfpack345
@Wolfpack345 Ай бұрын
Amazing timing
@seeky907
@seeky907 Ай бұрын
Those Granit/Shipwrecks are freaking scary.
@mumblerinc.6660
@mumblerinc.6660 Ай бұрын
Yay, Wolfpack! It’s funnier having a few Sea Power vids from someone who has a clue what he’s doing, unlike one or two other KZbinrs who seem to be just spamming ”uuuuh I dunno what happened? How come XYZ isn’t working?” vids ❤ Must say that I’d hope the EA-6s would be smarter and better at keeping out of range. A plane with such valuable sensors and specialised crew should realistically be near impossible to chase down.
@stuartmellors1452
@stuartmellors1452 Ай бұрын
I must say when it began getting chaotic, I genuinely felt like I was onboard defending the ship with my life. Love the videos, the only thing I ask for is for you to give us more information on the missiles and ships themselves because I feel like I'm learning more and more about naval combat. Great video
@BWIENS789
@BWIENS789 Ай бұрын
Slava ironically survived what killed her in real life
@mathijeba5375
@mathijeba5375 Ай бұрын
In game the missile hit right behind slava's missile where in irl it hit it in the missile which cause a chain reaction which blowed up all the missiles causing it to sink
@BeKindToBirds
@BeKindToBirds Ай бұрын
​@@mathijeba5375 That is not an accurate description of her sinking. You make it sound like she exploded when in fact it was the fact they couldn't put out the fire from the missile fuel and it died slowly rather than in a catastrophic chain explosion.
@emwungarand
@emwungarand Ай бұрын
"I had no idea these were launched" That's what EMCON does bruh.
@mathijeba5375
@mathijeba5375 Ай бұрын
What's EMCON?
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 Ай бұрын
Emissions control, i.e. being judicious with when you use your active sensors to avoid giving away your location
@mathijeba5375
@mathijeba5375 Ай бұрын
@@dsdy1205 thanks ;)
@joedirt861
@joedirt861 Ай бұрын
@@mathijeba5375 just to expand on the great answer you already got, using radar is like using a flashlight. you'll probably find who you are looking for, but they will definitely know you are out there.
@ze_hansgroupemeng2674
@ze_hansgroupemeng2674 Ай бұрын
it was an excellent video to watch i just wanted to come back on something to say something that might be obvious but i think fair to say. the ranges of missiles are optimal range if the missile can go straight to what he wants. if the planes or what it's targeting start to do evasive manouvers forcing the missile to turn the range will decrease. will depend on how much it's evasive so it can be lightly reduce or heavily
@preserveourpbfs7128
@preserveourpbfs7128 28 күн бұрын
Slava: *eats several anti ship missiles* captain: this is one hell of a smoking-related accident
@Flanker-NineZero
@Flanker-NineZero Ай бұрын
@Wolfpack345 it's been said before but I'll say it again, you offer the best Sea Power coverage by far. I'm very happy and grateful for another video after what feels like ages heheh.
@charlesdewitt8087
@charlesdewitt8087 Ай бұрын
An idea I haven't seen anyone suggest yet is using a mission editor to set up a "Civil War" scenario where say, American ships and planes fight themselves or the Russians fight themselves.
@imperfectly-balanced8861
@imperfectly-balanced8861 Ай бұрын
I know its not as simple as saying "why doesn't Wolfpack have 1mil subscribers yet?!", because his field of expertise/chosen gaming genre is a very niche + not so widely pushed type of content/media, but boy howdy does he deserve AT LEAST a million subs! The consistent upload of simply exceptional content this man puts out is a hundred times better/more than so many other creators (not throwing any shade on anyone else whatsoever) and he has been at it for so many years too. Unwavering quality, solid length videos, an insanely vast array of games and sub-genres, unmatched cinematics, epic storytelling and riveting intro hooks.. I could literally go on for hours about how Wolfpack has honed his craft to utter perfection.. but ill stop raving here and continue enjoying yet another banger video whilst silently hoping/wishing for the algorithm gods to roll in his favor sometime soon!
@Fallen_Arrow
@Fallen_Arrow 25 күн бұрын
agreed
@Funny_HaHa123
@Funny_HaHa123 Ай бұрын
Damn, I oddly felt bad when all the choppers were going home and that one was just hovering in sadness😂
@barrysworld640
@barrysworld640 Ай бұрын
Greetings from Canada, Wolfpack 345! Just wanted to tell you how much I am enjoying your Sea Power gameplay videos! In fact recently I find myself spending more free time watching your Sea Power videos than watching Netflix movies! Tribute to just how good your playthroughs and accompanying commentary are, sir! OMG this game looks amazing! *New Sub*
@danieldacko5148
@danieldacko5148 Ай бұрын
Im happy that someone actually does videos of СССР NAVY
@josephmagana6235
@josephmagana6235 Ай бұрын
Again, cool animations, and I liked how the AI seemed to more intelligently skirt your AD envelope while maintaining contact with the A-6. What doesn't make sense is the A-6s and B-52s making seemingly suicidal attacks at high alt like it's 1942 with their advanced OTH sea skimming cruise missiles. The AI needs more work still. Also, if they are going to make those kinds of attacks, let's see them employ something like AGM-123 which is going to leave any large surface combatant having a bad day.
@jetfighter200
@jetfighter200 Ай бұрын
"let's see them employ something like AGM-123 which is going to leave any large surface combatant having a bad day." I doubt they would be that good. there performance was very poor in IRL 8 Nm at best..and then you would be i every SAM engagement zone
@Papadragon18
@Papadragon18 Ай бұрын
I must say, the sequence from 13:55 to 14:10 is just absolutely stunning. The Harpoon skimming the surface, the sillouete of the ships at the horizon, the puffs of the CIWS, the smoke pillars formed by the trails of the SAM missiles, and the water splashes of the artillery bracketing the Harpoon. I'm so glad this game allows you to follow the missiles like it does.
@stevebarnett-f5o
@stevebarnett-f5o Ай бұрын
Great video, must say, do not think America would throw away B52s in a freefall bomb attack like that.
@DeltaAssaultGaming
@DeltaAssaultGaming Ай бұрын
Sounds like a hell of a suicide mission.
@MandolinMagi
@MandolinMagi Ай бұрын
From the vid showing all the assets, a lot of the loads are really weird. F-4s with max loads of 500lb bombs, A-6s with mixed harpoon and cluster bombs, and yeah that B-52 with mixed Harpoon and iron bombs. Hopefully its fixed eventually, it is early access.
@mymanager3662
@mymanager3662 Ай бұрын
You make by far the best decisions out of every sea power player I have seen. Super fun, please keep them coming :D
@BulentGorucu
@BulentGorucu Ай бұрын
I am a simple man, I see Kirov BattleCruiser, I hit the like button
@ZivkoSkobic
@ZivkoSkobic Ай бұрын
Man this video was immersive. I felt sorry for the ships that were hit.
@hamish_d
@hamish_d Ай бұрын
This game has gotten me into Tom Clancy novels, starting with Red Storm Rising, so good!
@rembrandt972ify
@rembrandt972ify Ай бұрын
Red Storm Rising was the best book Clancy ever wrote.
@dreval9646
@dreval9646 Ай бұрын
Man as much as i like to see you play and not even get scratched it’s cool to see you get challenged this game is insane
@potioner1235
@potioner1235 Ай бұрын
Please, Wolfpack, after you showed us Granits, now I want to see an Oscar (+Tu-95 recon) vs US Carrier Battlegroup scenario on your channel!
@joedirt861
@joedirt861 Ай бұрын
YYYEEESSSSSSSS
@wysoft
@wysoft Ай бұрын
American here, but as a kid I had my dad's Jane's Pocket Guide to Warships that I used to look at all the time. I remember thinking that all the Russian warships looked totally badass, just bristling with guns, missiles, everything. Every western Naval ship looked so tame and unassuming, while the Russian ships looked the part of being built for war.
@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer
@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer Ай бұрын
Damn Kirov here is a beast! And what an absolutely beautiful ship, hope to see her IRL one day, preferably without volleys or Granits being fired at me
@dieterhrabak4947
@dieterhrabak4947 Ай бұрын
@@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer Kirov probably will see another decades of service.. If I recall correctly there is a package of extensive modernization programs allocated for her.. One of the main agendas is replacing her Granit SSM with either Khinzal or other hypersonic missiles.. To act as an anti ship or/and cruise missiles..
@BuergerPT
@BuergerPT Ай бұрын
I think a challenge for those of us coming to Cold War era games like this is to remember how missile-to-radar technology worked back then. We are used to playing Command or other hi-tech games set in the post-1995 world of semi-active radar homing missiles, like the AMRAAM or Patriot. But in the Cold War, most missiles (SAMs and AAMs) needed active homing radar from the firing platform to guide them all the way home. This was true for basically all Russian missiles, but also NATO missiles like the Phoenix, Sparrow, etc., unless it was an infrared missile fired at short range (Stinger or Sidewinder).
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 Ай бұрын
It was true until the mid 70s. AIM64 phoenix, and for the issr R30 and R33 were self guiding, and S300 had composite guidance from the start, and S200 got self guiding missiles eventually. While NATO mostly ignored GBAD, and assumed air supermacy in their doctrinal planning, the soviets always knew they would be on the backfoot in the air, and sunk consudersvle resources and planning into SAM development. Part of this was the experience in Vietnam with S75M, and concluded that the best way of countering SEAD was minimizing the time radar directors irradiate, and displacing them physically from the TELAR units. To this end both s200 and 300 were mounted on sepf propelled trailers with a bominal 5 minute deployment time, and the missile batteries only had tight beam director radars rendering them invisible to elint apart from the tadget the, were painting, with the air search radar only at regiment level.
@donniemontoya9300
@donniemontoya9300 Ай бұрын
That's awesome. I didn't know there were also fully voiced russian lines.
@sam8742
@sam8742 Ай бұрын
Might be worthwhile to have your destroyers on the western side of the formation with the turn to the north to avoid your cruiser from taking so many AShM's
@forcea1454
@forcea1454 Ай бұрын
Should also have put the Udaloy on weapons free. He spent most of this scenario with the unit with the best point defence missile systems in the entire fleet on weapons-tight. Also should have increased the number of escorts, the Soviets would not have sent a fleet of mostly surface oriented ships into submarine infested waters with only a single BPK to escort them.
@phelidaifrost6019
@phelidaifrost6019 Ай бұрын
rip to those who tried to watch the OG vid
@Wolfpack345
@Wolfpack345 Ай бұрын
Sorry gamers :(
@jacobnemcic8147
@jacobnemcic8147 Ай бұрын
just to the part where the B52s were on radar!
@joedirt861
@joedirt861 Ай бұрын
@@bravobravo7901 ssshhhhhh.... the Los Angeles can hear you!
@okesenemoananu5086
@okesenemoananu5086 Ай бұрын
Your story telling skills are amazing. Please post more Sea Power videos. Its always a joy to watch them
@HGShurtugal
@HGShurtugal Ай бұрын
This is like the hunt for the Bismark
@leadontaste7261
@leadontaste7261 Ай бұрын
Even tho the game is great, god, Soviet crew VA feels lackluster. Nobody issues commands like that in our navy.
@Wolfpack345
@Wolfpack345 Ай бұрын
I'll voice acting will be redone
@Shogun0099
@Shogun0099 Ай бұрын
KIROV REPORTING
@simonnachreiner8380
@simonnachreiner8380 Ай бұрын
KIROV REPORTING
@Ramnight
@Ramnight Ай бұрын
KIROV REPORTING
@executer40
@executer40 Ай бұрын
HELIUM MIX OPTIMAL
@Ardox_the_fatebreaker
@Ardox_the_fatebreaker Ай бұрын
KIROV REPORTING
@Ramnight
@Ramnight Ай бұрын
Maneuver props engaged
@Kist_This
@Kist_This Ай бұрын
That beginning song was epic. I might just rewatch this on repeat simply to listen to it lol
@Schmucketellyjoe
@Schmucketellyjoe Ай бұрын
Your formation need to be tighter. With your smaller ships screening for Kirov, she can use her inventory to support the screen. Additionally, tighter formations will make CWIS and guns more effective.
@jimwong1380
@jimwong1380 Ай бұрын
Ships close together can also throw out one ginormous cloud of chaff.
@madmike81
@madmike81 Ай бұрын
I was stationed on the Yorktown CG-48 form 90-95...that felt a bit personal 😃. Love these vids. This game is a def purchase on release day.
@jugadoruno4797
@jugadoruno4797 Ай бұрын
The damage control teams on Slava need a fucking raise and a promotion.
@EVERSMAN42
@EVERSMAN42 Ай бұрын
Compared to the actual crew which were crap
@92HazelMocha
@92HazelMocha Ай бұрын
​@@EVERSMAN42Weakest Soviet crew vs strongest Russian crew lmao
@CrownBoron
@CrownBoron Ай бұрын
Based​@@92HazelMocha
@capnron65
@capnron65 Ай бұрын
Extra vodka rations will have to do
@CrownBoron
@CrownBoron Ай бұрын
@@92HazelMocha based
@untruelie2640
@untruelie2640 Ай бұрын
Kirov vs Iowa, absolutely epic! Also I must say, your choice of music is (as usual) damn good. Especially when the first Granit salvo was launched, that was better than any movie.
@tdestroyer1882
@tdestroyer1882 Ай бұрын
Fun fact, the ship Moskva which got sunk by Ukraine in spring 2022 was originally named Slava. So your actually commanding the Moskva that got sunk
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy Ай бұрын
Yep. People were mistaking the Moskva (first ship of the Moskva class) hellicopter cruiser of a previous video, believing it to be the Slava guided missile cruiser, _this_ Slava (first ship of the Slava class, renamed Moskva after Moskva was retired, then sunk in 2022). OF COURSE she survived this battle; she had a date with some drones that she couldn't miss.
@Spendingryan
@Spendingryan Ай бұрын
Yeah, there's like 2 Slava class cruisers left (used to be 3 with Moskva) and one of them is the Varyag, also I think there may be one Kirov class left but undergoing repairs as the nuclear reactor shielding was failing endangering the crew, not sure which ship of the line it was though.
@thesaul9484
@thesaul9484 Ай бұрын
@@Spendingryan 2 Kirov's actually exist today; one is active at the moment, the latter is being repaired, as you said
@Kittalumi16
@Kittalumi16 Ай бұрын
​​@@Spendingryan​4 Kirov-class Battlecruisers were build : Kirov - Admiral Ushakov after 1992 Frunze - Admiral Lazarev after 1992 Kalinin - Admiral Nakhimov after 1992 Pyotr Velikiy - completed in 1998 First 3 were in reserve from 90-s, and the 4th is still active In 2015 Russia decided to repair and modernize third ship, Admiral Nakhimov, she is right now at the final stages of it, and is planned to return into serice in 2025 The one with failing reactor is Kirov herself, now Admiral Ushakov. In 2016 she was sent to scrapping The last one Admiral Lazarev, was sent to srapping in 2019 Probably Pyotr Velikiy will get the same modernazation as Admiral Nakhimov
@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer
@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer Ай бұрын
Except this one is actually operational lmao. The one who was the flagship of Black Sea fleet was an absolute wreck
@PlaneManGG
@PlaneManGG Ай бұрын
I love your channel and coverage of sea power. From a realistic perspective once the decision was made to engage those A6s I’d say the military’s philosophy on expect worse case scenario would apply. I would assume there are missiles in the air (activate air search radars), then (assuming the decision to engage is necessary) assure the a6s shoot down, assume there are subs repositioning or torps in the water (deploy sonar buoys), assume there are surface contacts repositioning (plan counter offensive/defense for long range ASM launch), and continue with mission goal under fire assessing as new actions arise (probably aircraft from land base). 15:52
@ericstearns170
@ericstearns170 Ай бұрын
That... was... brutal
@warcat2469
@warcat2469 Ай бұрын
*mentions Udoloy* Me: *sitting in a corner, crying and waving a knife around as the nightmares of Wargame: Red Dragon enter my mind*
@cladecq
@cladecq Ай бұрын
You can't let 2 prowlers lurking around your group like this (at start)... must be priority number one, they send continuous info about your group... you need to ensure the kill with multiple AA missiles on each one, asap. They are like the eye of Sauron above you ! Information is (and always was) the key at war, don't let them gathering all info about you. Modern warfare is, more than ever, a cat and mouse game. Be the cat and not the mouse. Using EMCOM and shooting ennemy planes as soon as possible is the first priority. You need to preserve your "fog of war" for the ennemy. I suppose you could send missile on external radar info on this game.
@bigpoppa1234
@bigpoppa1234 Ай бұрын
e2c and prowlers up, he was probably 100% detected from the start of the scenario.
@josephmagana6235
@josephmagana6235 Ай бұрын
Shooting a plane is the opposite of EMCON, basically reveals exactly who you are and where you are...
@cladecq
@cladecq Ай бұрын
@@josephmagana6235 EMCON : emission control, not weapon control. Did you ever ear about datalink ? Anyway, only one surface radar should be used, the one for the best SAM system (longer range) if there is no datalink. Switching on surface radar ONLY when targets, spotted by helo's radars, enter the range of the sam, and not before. Open radar and immediate fire, with multiple missiles on each target to ensure fast kill, as soon as the target enter the sam range. Then ensure complete destuction of the aerial patrol, not allowing the planes to evaluate visually the situation to report and call for a naval strike, as they did. The goal is to be the first one to deliver the SS salvo, not the one to receive it. You are supposed to be NOT ID as long as you have not fired the first SS attack. That's also why helo reco is very important : to be the first to engage and not to be engaged at first. Plotting a buoy pattern for one or (better cause faster) 2 helo, and an helo to pop up (3000ft is enought, then back to 20ft) sometimes (just short pictures, not "radar on" all the way !) to get a radar picture, while advancing toward the ennemy. THIS helo will tell you when to open the sam radar because he will tell you when ennemy planes are in range of the sam, very important helo, here also, better 2 then one (but at different places), because it is exposed. That's how I would have managed the start of this mission, to try to be the first to attack.
@cladecq
@cladecq Ай бұрын
@@bigpoppa1234 he was a radar contact for ennemy AI, but as long as he doesn't open any radar on the fleet, he can't be ID as ennemy except from visual ID. And that's what AI are supposed to do : if it can't ID your radar tag, it send an asset to ID you. But as long as it didn't ID you, he won't engage you. that's all the point to destroy the prowler before visual range, with EMCON status.
@josephmagana6235
@josephmagana6235 Ай бұрын
@@cladecq Yes, but the moment that prowler is illuminated he knows now that unknown radar contact is a hostile cruiser group. Realistically there just wasn't a way soviet surface combatants could avoid being detected first in this kind of scenario. They needed some kind of air cover.
@VARIANT192
@VARIANT192 Ай бұрын
Now we need to make a video about a similar strike by two nuclear submarines of the 949A type. These are carriers of exactly the same P-700 Granit weapon. Launch from the submarine and the destruction of a large aircraft group with a salvo from two directions simultaneously.
@StevieTheBush
@StevieTheBush Ай бұрын
FOR THE ALGORITHM !
@Wolfpack345
@Wolfpack345 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jayg7482
@jayg7482 Ай бұрын
How often can we spam that b4 its bad for the algorithm?
@jayg7482
@jayg7482 Ай бұрын
FOR THE ALGORITHM !
@bradyelich2745
@bradyelich2745 Ай бұрын
FOR THE ALGORITHM !
@ActualGardenShed
@ActualGardenShed Ай бұрын
Only youtuber I instantly stopped doing whatever I was doing when I see a new video.
@aceca5147
@aceca5147 Ай бұрын
This game can't come soon enough
@mikekopack6441
@mikekopack6441 Ай бұрын
How much of the earth does the scenario editor have? Like can we do pacific engagements? Arctic? What about trying to get in/out of the Black Sea?
@Wolfpack345
@Wolfpack345 Ай бұрын
The entire world is in the game
@thesaul9484
@thesaul9484 Ай бұрын
@@Wolfpack345 Could you do a navy scenario in Hungary for the next video?
@wastelander89
@wastelander89 Ай бұрын
Sad to see iowa go down but loved the video. I always look forward to your videos. You make excellent videos
@Ronin_Gaijin
@Ronin_Gaijin Ай бұрын
At 53:34 Kirov's ship number is mirrored. Should be fixed by game developer! 😎
@scarecrow108productions7
@scarecrow108productions7 Ай бұрын
Yes!! Finally someone said. And I know this because it also happened with the old kirov model in Cold Waters. Afterall, some devs for SP are formerly from Killerfish Games when working on Cold Waters.
@MekStark1980
@MekStark1980 Ай бұрын
@@scarecrow108productions7 yes, 2 out of core 3 CW devs moved on to found Triassic and work on SP
@scarecrow108productions7
@scarecrow108productions7 Ай бұрын
@@MekStark1980 and there's also a dev that used to work on the CW DotMod now also working with this team on Sea Power
@jsinned7549
@jsinned7549 Ай бұрын
Hey just wanted to mention that the A6 is called the "Intruder". I only know that because my dad used to build them for the Navy. Love your channel! Keep publishing your interesting (addicting) content.😊
@JulieanGalak
@JulieanGalak Ай бұрын
Aren't those Soviet anti-air missiles command and semi-active guided? So without air search radar, they shouldn't be effective?
@Kittalumi16
@Kittalumi16 Ай бұрын
They have separate targeting radar (it looks like a muffin, lmao) search radar detects the target and tells the targeting radar where to look to lock it, if you already know where the target is, you don't need a search radar
@ser43_OLDC
@ser43_OLDC Ай бұрын
Buk and S300 are semi active missiles, but they have also secundary radio command modes
@dmitris.479
@dmitris.479 Ай бұрын
Basically Krug but smarter.
@Kittalumi16
@Kittalumi16 Ай бұрын
Basically, almost all non IR homing SAMs, tbh, except new active radar homing ones like S-350 or Patriot PAC-3, but they still have both search and targeting radar
@Kittalumi16
@Kittalumi16 Ай бұрын
@ser43_OLDC I meant that the ship has a separate targeting radar for S-300 (and another two, one for each Osa), not the missiles themselves Also, Osa and Tor are ONLY radio command guided, even much more modern Pantsir-S1 still is only command guided, it keeps missiles light, makes them faster and more maneuverable which is really important for SHORAD
@doozis
@doozis Ай бұрын
Amazing !! Wolf you really know how to make nail biter videos . Please keep using your talent and knowledge to keep us entertained ! I'm not really a fanboy type of guy but your vids totally rock . Thank You Sir
@SingularPing
@SingularPing Ай бұрын
Was it all just a dream?
@Wolfpack345
@Wolfpack345 Ай бұрын
Yes
@Cnupoc
@Cnupoc Ай бұрын
i used to do these types of engagements in Lock On: Modern Air Combat way back in early 2000s. The predecessor to DCS. I even used the Kuznetsov as a flagship in some scenarios. The Kuznetsov is quite capable by herself even xD
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify Ай бұрын
Well the game Kuznetsov is. Real Kuznetsov is rather less so due to her propensity for breakdowns.
@kretobojca
@kretobojca Ай бұрын
Slava class seems to not have much luck with missiles irl and in the game ;D
@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer
@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer Ай бұрын
At least this one was afloat because it's systems were actually operational. The Moskva... Damn that was a wreck
@BeKindToBirds
@BeKindToBirds Ай бұрын
​@@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyerit's the same ship, Slava was renamed to Moscow
@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer
@AverageWarCrimeEnjoyer Ай бұрын
@@BeKindToBirds I know. But in game it's fully operational and freshly built, and IRL it was a rotting piece of metal with most of it's systems not working.
@twister356
@twister356 Ай бұрын
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS GAME, you got me into War on the Sea, now I’ve put 500 hours into that game. You got me into Silent Hunter, 200 hours. Cold waters? 300 hours. now this game? It’s gonna be a lot
@battlebaron1405
@battlebaron1405 Ай бұрын
I thought that editing mistake was just me accidentally rewinding the video lol
@JFNelson18
@JFNelson18 Ай бұрын
Me too. It was just after a pop-up and I thought I hit something
@kwcbomb6969
@kwcbomb6969 Ай бұрын
Just a tip, you should be able to fire on targets that are outside of range as long as the intercept point is in range... So if the plane is heading right towards you, you can shoot when it's outside the max range as by the time the missile gets to the target the target will then be within the circle and should hit... This should help with engaging targets sooner that come within weapons range.
@GutkowskiMarek
@GutkowskiMarek Ай бұрын
I think a Tu-142 or a recon Tu-95 would be around to provide top cover. Those planes are part of the navy so they would likely be sent to spot for Kirov on rotation.
@josephwhiskeybeale
@josephwhiskeybeale Ай бұрын
Very unlikely, they would have been hit immediately.
@GutkowskiMarek
@GutkowskiMarek Ай бұрын
@@josephwhiskeybeale By who? The only air power in the area were F-15 out of Iceland so Sparrow is the longest range weapon. No one is intercepting them on route either. And that recon Tu-95 is flying in the stratosphere above two S-300 batteries.
@TheShadowAdmiral
@TheShadowAdmiral 27 күн бұрын
Great video - thank you! Beautiful graphics in this game! Cool to see this epic cold war showdown. I have to admit a pain in my heart when I saw the Iowa take three missiles and sink.
@liamc9998
@liamc9998 Ай бұрын
Finally! The big girl is here!
@Field_Marshal_Emu
@Field_Marshal_Emu Ай бұрын
When this came to the channel, I wasn't overly interested, but, as usual, your storytelling and game play has won me over. Eagerly await the next video!
@GeneralRommel123-x7x
@GeneralRommel123-x7x Ай бұрын
Reposting from original video: Day 1 of asking Wolfpack to recreate the final battle in Hunt for Red October. Join me in this request.
@scarecrow108productions7
@scarecrow108productions7 Ай бұрын
That is if the Typhoon SSBN is added ingame
@LoreTunderin
@LoreTunderin Ай бұрын
This game gives me flashbacks to Red Storm Rising. What an awesome book.
@buruzn09
@buruzn09 Ай бұрын
Just glad it’s back so I can finish watching. 😂
@blackburd
@blackburd Ай бұрын
I have been enjoying this series so much. This conflict was awesome. Great narration. Super entertaining.
@ronuckJoglekar1945
@ronuckJoglekar1945 Ай бұрын
Second Battle of the Denmark strait be like :
@Harte74
@Harte74 Ай бұрын
and almost right on the date. Had it been 2 days earlier, it would have hit the right date.
@pansarskott1
@pansarskott1 Ай бұрын
”There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today, Ivan.”
@ronuckJoglekar1945
@ronuckJoglekar1945 Ай бұрын
@@pansarskott1 lol 😂😂
@VARIANT192
@VARIANT192 Ай бұрын
This really looks like a modern naval battle, thank you very much, I'm waiting for the game to be released.
@dalinchasteen9797
@dalinchasteen9797 Ай бұрын
Love the sea power videos.Hope you make a series on the campaign when the game fully launches
@serwallacey
@serwallacey Ай бұрын
Imagine being a fisher on a small boat, minding your business, all of the sudden you hear a weird whistling sound, you look up and you see a formation of "Shipwreckers".
@condorscondor
@condorscondor Ай бұрын
still a whole month before this game comes out. aaaaaaaaaaaaa
@jaden8703
@jaden8703 Ай бұрын
i feel you brother
@JimmyCricket93
@JimmyCricket93 Ай бұрын
17:50 Sampan is a loooong way from home in the Denmark Strait
@user-fzyzety
@user-fzyzety Ай бұрын
Кстати, а если разворачивать корабли носом или кормой к ракетам, это помогает избежать попадания?
@limeacid
@limeacid Ай бұрын
вряд ли это на что-то повлияет всё равно будет попадание, тут самолёты по рельсам летают и не отворачивают от ракет
@ddviper8813
@ddviper8813 Ай бұрын
You let those Prowlers hang around for so long I was screaming at my phone lol ugh I can’t wait for this game
@rjpx947
@rjpx947 Ай бұрын
Uh oh, Iowa BB lost? Better hang onto your socks. US is going to be MAD.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 Ай бұрын
I mean. Its WW3. How much madder can they get?
@josephmagana6235
@josephmagana6235 Ай бұрын
To be honest, the USN would probably have gladly traded away one of the obsolete BBs to protect a CVN or even a big atlantic convoy.
@artruisjoew5473
@artruisjoew5473 Ай бұрын
@@egoalter1276good news, you sank the Iowa, which is of questionable usefulness anyway. Bad news: you didn’t even find the carrier strike force, and it has already found you as evidenced by the Hawkeye and prawler keeping an eye on you. And they have more AShMs than you have interceptors.
@Itnaxsg93
@Itnaxsg93 Ай бұрын
it is a video game
@jeffarwady
@jeffarwady Ай бұрын
35:44: That is so freaking sick - thanks for the content man!
@ww32
@ww32 Ай бұрын
So the Harpoon is scary because when it hits it is design to cause fires. So geotting hit by multiple Harpoons not only causes damage from the missle exploding but from the fires that they are designed to cause.
@scorpioni6024
@scorpioni6024 Ай бұрын
It's the same for any antiship missile. The remaining fuel onboard the missile ignites and causes fires.
@slarratt
@slarratt Ай бұрын
​@@scorpioni6024erm, no...
@slarratt
@slarratt Ай бұрын
The warhead explodes and part of warhead is super hot sludge like honey but burning at 2000 degrees anything it touches burns.
@Kalergiplansupporter
@Kalergiplansupporter 29 күн бұрын
That's what I was thinking every ascm is meant to cause secondary explosions and fires.​@@scorpioni6024
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