Sino-Soviet War The Red Fleet Strikes Back! || Sea Power Gameplay - New Naval Simulation

[@jessegd6306]

Wolfpack: Gets shot at by guided missiles. Wolfpack: Shoots down missiles. Wolfpack: "Let's turn off the things that could search for more missiles and hostiles while we're already in combat and they know where we are anyway." We love our Wolfpack.

[@peterfruchtig5334]

Yeah, I think he likes EMCON a bit too much.

[@bigdog91paper]

I try to maintain silence as long as possible but once the shit starts flying at least one ship will always have their radars on. I will turn others off but even that is probably pointless.

[@coopergoebel9943]

@@bigdog91paperhe uses radar like active sonar in cold waters the difference is a sub can go silent after active and run and torps can’t search like missiles you can throw missiles in a huge area and find something not torps a ship can’t move like a sub simply

[@Wolfpack345]

I figured they were launching down the bearing of my radar emissions and did not actually have radar contact. They were firing at me more when radars were flipped on 🤷‍♂️

[@coopergoebel9943]

@@Wolfpack345 I guess the issue is stores but still at the ranges your at your getting shot at constantly once they know your there I think and that’s just how the ai works due to the seeker heads being able to see such a large area comparatively

[@Dimitris_Datseris]

I love how you manage to do insane story building like this, I haven’t even watched the video and I already know I’m gonna like it.

[@fishua5564]

Yeah, I can't wait to see some campaigns!

[@Dimitris_Datseris]

@@fishua5564 I would really love to see a mission with Farragut class destroyers

[@FinnishJager]

I have more ideas for Sino-Soviet War scenarios as a part of a mini campaign series. If that's something people want to see, let me know. I will supply if there is demand. I'm also working on one more Aleutian Islands follow up mission. That one is still cooking.

[@adamtruong1759]

I wonder if there's a way to tie it into the Vietnam War, which timeline-wise is occurring simultaneously w/ this Sino-Soviet war.

[@cousinhubert]

Yes do ! I'm wondering about the limitation of the game regarding the capacity of putting civilian traffic(both sea and air), beaucause i think in reality one of the challenge at the sea is that it can be quiet dense(not counting the vessel of other navy). Implementing a sort of "realistic" traffic would be too heavy for the game engine ?

[@johnwanderin3872]

I need to get a new computer and the game so I can create all the scenarios I have in my head

[@isaacmcmanus3666]

Please, please do!! The sino-soviet war is such a fun alt history!

[@FinnishJager]

@@cousinhubert I love adding civilian traffic. If you've watched Wolf's Cuban Missile Crisis video and the first Sino-Soviet War video, I added a lot of neutral shipping in those missions. Future missions will have civilian ships and aircraft for sure!

[@mikefischer8576]

Once your found there is no reason to stay at emcom. This prevents you from effectively fighting and defending.

[@thornefroemming7796]

Due to the fact the Russian subs had to surface in order to fire their missiles the Harpoon was originally designed as an anti-submarine missile, which makes the name make more sense. When first tested it tended to just fly through the sail and not detonate, so they added the pop-up feature to overcome that. After the Russians developed the technology to fire while submerged the Harpoon became the anti-ship missile we know today.

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

That's cool, I didn't know that. Also, this is the first time I have heard a Conning Tower referred to as a sail.

[@jwrockets]

@@totalNERD-eo7wx As a former submariner, we refer to it as either the sail or the fairwater.

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

@@jwrockets Cool!

[@Fenris86]

Today I learned...

[@imperfectly-balanced8861]

Just a quick but very noteworthy reminder to anyone and everyone here watching this video (+ all other Wolfpack videos) and/or reading this comment: This man does NOT have sponsored ad reads in his videos. There is not many channels nowadays that can claim that either, certainly not many at all that put out near-daily content at such a high level like Wolf.

[@Raptor747]

EMCON isn't like silent running; missiles are so much faster and it's way easier to find you on the open ocean than in the depths tracking the sound of your propeller. Your radars are your eyes; once you are detected at all, turning them off is like fighting blind.

[@scarletkinkajou1]

Your intros should be the standard for a game. Developers take note. Wolfpack is the gold standard.

[@randomguypi-uf2jc]

Voiced intros for major scenarios done by Wolfpack would be pretty cool ngl

[@ShadowGJ]

Great scenario LP! FYI, using Zulu time (which is GMT/England centered) is a Western/NATO thing. The Soviets used Moscow time (MSK).

[@n0bl3hunt3r]

Those sub launches were seriously cool. Also nice to see the AI making a really solid effort to sink the attacking ships

[@saltycoffee8106]

My daily dose of naval warfare

[@tommeakin1732]

One thing I really hope to see in this game is more "personalised" damage models, where you can clearly see how your hit harmed the ship rather than it seemingly being a pretty "oh the ship has been hiiiit" animation that it has now. That adds so much

[@2BachShakur]

Great stuff. Your channel is such a perfect complement to this game because of your talent with narrative, which adds so much depth. With the editor in Sea Power, the sky is the limit as you can recreate almost any scenario in history.

[@Luuk-q6o]

Wolfpack, I first started watching you when i saw an ad of the dutch navy. They talked about if submarines in video games are actually accurate to real life, and they used footage of one of your Cold Waters videos! I thought it looked really cool, so i decided to check out your channel, and started watching your Cold Waters series, long after it was uploaded. From there i watched your abdacom series, gates of hell Ostfront, your other WOTS series, and you I-16 series! There are a lot of series and normal videos which i really, really enjoy! But please, PLEASE UPLOAD MORE SCRAMBLE BATTLE OF BRITAIN VIDEOS, BETWEEN PART 1 AND 2 WERE SIX SEA POWER EPISODES DANGIT

[@luked7525]

A Quick note about the Echo II boats. I do not believe that they are capable of launching all 8 missiles at once, and even if they are, it was certainly not doctrine to do so. The doctrine was to fire a salvo of four, and follow up 12 minutes later with the remaining four.

[@randomguypi-uf2jc]

It looked like in-game they may have only launched 4 missiles per sub, not sure though

[@DerLoladin]

These are some interesting radar usage decisions

[@thepinkplushie]

Shaddocks are relatively capable of attacking ground targets. I think separating your ships to allow engagement with those Shaddocks on the Silkworms was the call. Keeping radars active would have helped as well.

[@MrZazzles94]

Death by a thousand silkworms

[@jakubkopecky9878]

Great video. FinnishJaeger also did a great job making these missons. In 2022 i have visited Peenemünde and in the port they have Juliet class sub as a museum ship. It is a similar boat as Echo, but it is diesel electric.

[@wastelander89]

I love your videos. Ur great at cinematics and story telling while making the naval combat fun to watch. Thanks again for another great video

[@cavdrkz24]

8:30 so in theory if they launched against you they already know youre there. Wouldn't it make more sense to keep radars on to track incoming? 🤔

[@mabinogion7023]

Fantastic narrative and great use of the scenario editor. Would love to see PLAN 80s warships and aircraft in the game.

[@jdc111887]

Always enjoy your vids especially these sea power ones, awesome job man! Keep em comin’

[@MidTennPews]

The Uboat gameplay was why I originally watched but I think by now that you could commentate a dog taking a poo in the garden and I'd be invested. Always the best content from you sir. Thank you.

[@maxs7470]

34:22 I don´t think the ss-n-3s radar is good enough to actualy pick up ground targets (non vessels). Its possible tho that due to its INS and link to the mothership its able to hit gound units when their position is precise enough trough the ships sensors. Thats at least what the publicly available data indicates. Love your videos and storytelling tho! ps: there seems to be a difference between surface launched and submarine launched versions of the shaddock tho.

[@VulpeculaJoy]

Turn Your Freakin Radar On

[@CalmBeignets-zd5cj]

a great video as always, love how you show off the subs and all the details the game has to offer. more sea power please!

[@guyrosinbaum7745]

You have 2 subs that are in range of those surface launchers

[@deekamikaze]

I don't recall there being 4K in the other videos but it does look really good. Thank you :)

[@kerindamir]

Wolfpack, I love your videos! Thank you for your time.

[@Guinness65ify]

Great vids sir. Look forward to the next.

[@thewise3551]

That was a great video, enjoyed it a lot.

[@Fenris86]

That sub launch animation is indeed very cool!

[@drexia8973]

Hell yeah! More Wolfpack storytime!

[@nohandlenotme]

Patience payed off, GREAT JOB!

[@theamericangamer2696]

I hope they add a mission browser where you can download and play missions created by other players. I've experimented with the mission editor and I'm ok at best. Soothing odd playing a mission you created so you know what could be where. Love this game and love Wolfpack's story telling. Keep it up

[@FinnishJager]

You can download missions from the Steam workshop. My missions are here: steamcommunity.com/id/FinnJags71/myworkshopfiles/?appid=1286220 Link to the workshop is here: steamcommunity.com/app/1286220/workshop/

[@theamericangamer2696]

​@@FinnishJageroh I had no idea the workshop was supported! That's awesome thanks! I'll be sure to check them out

[@guilty_mulburry5903]

if you mark unknown targets as hostile, I find the firing solution builds quicker than unknown ones. also control left click allows you to "queue" targeting orders.

[@GameTimeWithMatt]

Awesome video! ( I haven't finished it yet, but I know it'll be a good one)

[@Emperorvalse]

Great scenario. I agree about the animations however the only "realism" issue would be the Echos crew in the sail while they launch. The toxic fumes from the missiles would kill the crew so they would be buttoned up observing through the periscopes.

[@magnusvse8911]

love myself a wolfpack vid to eat dinner while watching it. id also like to suggest the user misstion: Operation Bump In The Night

[@scribejay]

Seems like a huge missed opportunity to not have had Sea Power (Disco Elysium soundtrack) do the music for this.

[@CBiscuit317]

You can hold down the shift key and engage multiple tracks with the same weapon system. You don’t have to keep selecting the weapon every time you want to target a different track.

[@scavoukian]

Dude that was epic!

[@arthurcrego8297]

Wow thisemissle subs are really cool loved the video

[@Jmac-rg6tq]

love your content bro

[@douglasmodesto168]

Sea Power upload, let's gooo

[@norsia1946]

Once even ONE missile is in the air, EMCON is out the window unless you're being targeting by SEAD. your ships aren't submarines, they don't just disappear if they are quiet enough. Once you hear vampire, all eyes open, all ears on.

[@cavdrkz24]

Submarines: Absolutely no submarines: Wolfpack: Torpedo away! lmaoooo

[@BunkerFox]

Trying to destroy coastal artillery with a torpedo. It's the last thing they'd expect!

[@michaelk19thcfan10]

When I saw the title I wondered, which Red Fleet?

[@ToreDL87]

I wonder if spyships can also be used to mask submarines in their baffles. You know what to do Wolfpack.

[@breadandree1114]

12:17 looks like something straight out of a movie

[@klauss.2696]

dont do this to me wolf i have another exam soon😭

[@tomcat2395]

what exam ?

[@klauss.2696]

@@tomcat2395electronics exam in 13 hours

[@Luuk-q6o]

Good luck!

[@phantomvulcan2206]

​@@klauss.2696good luck man

[@klauss.2696]

@@phantomvulcan2206 thank you guys🙏 ill update you all on the next video 🤣

[@Thecrownswill]

I’ve gotta say, if moders are allowed to introduce their own weapons and ships into the game, HOI4 TNO could find an unexpected artistic outlet here.

[@questlove_satx]

Greetings, Professor Admiral Falken

[@ThunderDuck99]

Hey Wolfpack, is there a possibility that you also upload your other missions you have created to Steam? I had a lot of fun with the Barney Mission

[@jaapaap123]

I visited the last Juliett class sub in Peenemunde. It has similar launchers, but non-nuclear propulsion.

[@fubaralakbar6800]

"He's too close for missiles, I'm switchin' to guns..."

[@altruida]

Hi wolfpack. I really enjoy your content. And of course to see this tech in simulation is exciting but as a human race do you not think we should just ban the manufacture of weapons? 🎉

[@darrellhartanto4428]

IIRC, Echo II cannot guide all missiles simultaneously; you need to fire and wait for the missile to receive its mid-flight guidance/or find its own target before firing another one, but that's the old Echo II; newer Echo II (presumably in this video) should have updated fire control.

[@joelcueto2460]

I really loved the animations in the missile launching, how the canisters opened them and launched the missiles out. And I do believe the islands defenses can be neutralized easily if the two Russian ships just launched those long range Cruise missiles at the safe distance, though I believe you are also reserving it for naval targets but unfortunately the only things present on those Islands are patrol boats, and it's waste of missiles to be used against them.

[@adamtruong1759]

If you ask if a target is worth a missile, you should know that the answer is always YES. Keep 'em at arms length away.

[@FinnishJager]

Spy ship hype

[@Bigglesworthicus]

I did *not* expect to see P-35s used as land attack cruise missiles

[@ExtremistMuffin]

This was very cool

[@andrevenger]

Amazing!

[@renatogarcia1612]

I wonder if, while playing these games, WolfPack has found himself lately thinking that these scenarios have now become eerily real threats?

[@RemusKingOfRome]

WOW! Transformer Sub ! I never knew that. :D

[@AlphawolfKing]

What I would love to know is if they will add the Royal Canadian Navy

[@guilty_mulburry5903]

28:35 when it worked it did... which... well soviet tech you know what it's like

[@esbenk.d.jensen9345]

Busy mission, action packed

[@AlexGreenleaf-t7v]

It would be awesome if the damage model showed a hole in the ship after gun/missile and torpedo hit showing realistic damage

[@tonyc.6205]

Silkworm is a lower quality Styx clone missile. Very succepible to chaff, as you found out.

[@kskeel1124]

You want to know why the missiles have dominated naval warfare for 70+ years?

[@Commando_history]

Can we see more guided missile submarines attacking land targets more often.

[@jefferydraper4019]

I dont know...maybe send the Petya class frigate in first as a stalking horse.

[@walney2008]

I could teach you how to aim, how to shoot, choose the type of projectile, that is, I don't know what to do :-)

[@JulieanGalak]

That's a lot of antennas for a fishing boat...

[@scarletkinkajou1]

It would be nice if Uboat featured these explosion graphics

[@LordRunolfrUlfsson]

(26:00) With hindsight, I'm starting to think that approaching the island chain from the southeast or northwest would be better, so you only have to engage one missile station at a time. (35:50) Are the small boats like the minesweeper trying to act as forward observers for the artillery?

[@imamage]

Hmm the terrain is not quite accurate for Pearl river delta and nearby area (mission area) but cool to see they do have Royal navy ships near Hong Kong.

[@AkktuStakki]

Would love to see your scenarios @FinnishJager just a question where can we get these scenarios?

[@FinnishJager]

My scenarios can be found here on the Steam workshop! steamcommunity.com/id/FinnJags71/myworkshopfiles/?appid=1286220

[@MalcolmShinhwa]

Epic

[@emitvshow]

Dance of red fleets

[@durt214]

Amazing video as usual. Though having gotten my hands on the game now, I must say that the base missions/scenarios are quite disappointing, and so is the AI for planes/helicopters.

[@samsungsmartfridge3173]

Yeah its a bit lacking in its current state but I have hope in the game's future improvements, the devs are constantly talking with the community and getting feedback so hopefully with enough time they'll refine the game

[@CASA-dy4vs]

Early access:

[@GCccccc]

im working on a cartel mission from the 1980's about a jet trying to smuggle drugs to key west and evade coast guard and interceptions from the US air force and cuba. lmk if you guys/anyone is interested in this type of thing

[@Angel33Demon666]

Why’s chek lap kok filled in? The airport wasn’t constructed until a bit after the game’s timeline and it should’ve been two separate small islands.

[@sedatedape315]

I'm pretty sure anti-ship cruise missiles can't attack land targets. Don't know why.

[@captainfoxythepiratefox8874]

Some can just depends on the variants

[@jefferydraper4019]

I said this below in a reply to a comment, but I want to repeat it here: I almost would prefer playing his game like we did Harpoon from a map screen, and just zoom into the ship when it comes to damage and launch animations. While the imagery is great, its really a distraction from conducting the fight. I mean its very nice to see these beautiful ships, but its making it harder to actually fight the battle I think. Take War on The Sea, you have these levels to view the ships, but in reality you launch from a map, and can actually spend most of the battle in the map screen.

[@Klonering]

What prevents you from staying on the map if you play this game for yourself? I really don't get what you want to say here. For me, it reads like you are forced to use the cinematics for warfare.

[@redgriffindiver7740]

Since when were SS-N-3s able to perform land attack?

[@chadp8388]

Where are you getting the missions from? Workshop?

[@FinnishJager]

I am making custom missions for Mr. Wolfpack

[@Sheldon_OSINT]

Where can I find the soundtrack especially at 8.20 it gets amazing !

[@IscariottActual]

Whats up with content creators going emcon after they have been engaged? I didnt go to the naval war college but the cat and mouse is over at the point you get vampires.

[@TheBeachBadger]

love the look of this game , but looks to complicated for my old brain lol

[@Luuk-q6o]

How old are you, if i may ask?

[@jefferydraper4019]

Naw...its just 90s Harpoon with actual ship scenes. My biggest beef is the ship/platform menu at the bottom of the screen is too small. I think we need a popup window showing the platform assets. I almost would prefer playing his game like we did Harpoon from a map screen, and just zoom into the ship when it comes to damage animations and launch animations. While the imagery is great, its really a distraction from conducting the fight.

[@TheBeachBadger]

@@Luuk-q6o 60++++

[@M551_Sheridan]

First the fokin in Norway and now the s. China sea 😂 damn what a journey

[@Smoke-Screen.]

💯

[@DyingCr0w]

There's no point on going emcon after shit gets real. There's no point in going emcon at all, unless the ships are outranged. Check intel. Going emcon means a ship will be within an 180° area of probability based on max speed, not a big deal for a couple radar homing missiles. If the simulation takes that into consideration, firing a homing missile that way is fair game. It looks like it may just be doing that. Mind that every sensor has a max range. The game gives you an ellipse, nothing will be at the far end of it. This is combat in the missile era, you don't want to be fired at. Ships have a nasty habit of presenting broadside. Just don't let it happen. we all know that presenting broadside is a terrible idea. Everything here hit by a missile is broadside. This is a game flaw, i think, because ships present broadside to fire guns, which are abysmally ineffective against missiles. There is no good place to take one of those, but astern will always be the choice. Definitely not the bridge. Or broadside.

[@MagnumGreenPanther]

Why would this fight be happening in a British Crown Colony?

[@TheJudge2017]

Your saying the red fleet is attacking the red fleet?

[@bigdog91paper]

Is it strange that subs are just allowed to know all the same things as the rest of the fleet? Wouldnt they need to be surfaced to get signals in and out? Or at least parascope depth?

[@FinnishJager]

Both submarines did surface

[@bigdog91paper]

​@@FinnishJagerI mean in the game in general. Because you're the player you can use real time data from surface spotting to launch torpedos and the like at perfectly accurate bearings

[@captainfoxythepiratefox8874]

​@@bigdog91paper rl there are ways but in combat it's not viable. It's mostly for gameplay reasons

[@VaderGhost124]

What’s the deal with minimum range? Was it a safety feature?

[@captainfoxythepiratefox8874]

For the most part. I think it's due to data transfer limitations of the earlier systems?