Sea Power - Soviet Missiles Don't Mess Around

[@Casmaniac]

It's funny how the weapons and systems are very high tech and complicated, but tactics just boil down to who can fart out a shit ton of missiles the fastest lol

[@jaywerner8415]

Me Playing rule the waves 3 "This is factually correct."

[@Nikolai2s]

Basically true, assuming both sides know roughly where the opponent is. Others have made videos about "missile sponge ships," ie: getting the enemy to waste all their missiles on a single ship, but then being unable to destroy the rest of the fleet. IMO, in reality, this was sort-of employed in regards to carrier escorts, but not such an extreme as you can cheese it in SP. 😅

[@errorcrj110]

As usual, the survivability onion applies If you don't want to die, don't be there If you're there, don't get detected If you're detected, don't get identified If you're identified, don't get within enemy missile range If you're within enemy missile range, don't let them target you If you're targeted, don't let them fire anti-ship missiles If they've fired, fire your own anti-air missiles If your anti-air missiles miss, jam the enemy missiles If the jamming fails, launch decoys and flares If the decoys and flares fail, fire the CIWS If the CIWS fails, you're going to be hit If you're going to be hit, (assuming it's a Soviet anti-ship missile) then it's hands to life raft stations, abandon ship!

[@dougcree6486]

The actual phrase the Navy uses is, “Fire effectively first.”

[@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA]

It’s like new forms of power generation. Is it really new or just another way to boil water?

[@Nugire]

19:27 "Grandpa Buff, can you tell us again of that time you sunk a Kirov battlecruiser?"

[@michaelray3865]

A fellow HLC watcher, eh?

[@vinter5256]

@@michaelray3865 would you intercept me? id intercept me.

[@michaelray3865]

No, I’ll pass, but I do think I’ll intercept a couple donuts and a black coffee this morning.

[@juphikie3559]

Made me think of the Warrior Shaman’s music

[@jasonwatson9011]

Don't! MESS WITH MY BOATS 🤬

[@Julius_Hardware]

5:48 USS Grayling: Commit submarine suicide! Grayling: Sir Yes Sir! Rear Admiral Jingles: Sorry don’t do that! My bad! Grayling: Glad you are our side sir!

[@gerikucinski2427]

As a retired Engineer, here’s my attempt to explain cavitation: As a propeller spins in the water, it creates areas of lower pressure. The faster it goes, the lower the pressure. If the pressure is low enough, bubbles form - that’s cavitation. As those bubbles move away from the propeller & reach a higher pressure zone, they then collapse. Bubbles being created & collapsing make noise that can be detected. If a sub goes deep enough (higher pressure environment) the lower pressure created by the propellers is still too high for bubbles to form.

[@Zonkotron]

As a fellow engineer id like to add for those readers perhaps not familiar, that a sufficient pressure reduction causes water to boil even at seawater temperatures. And because these bubbles are not air, they are steam, they can condense and collapse back into water wholly and quickly once pressure returns. Explosively quickly. This is what makes cavitation so very loud and abrasive even. It can in fact, long term, destroy metal.

[@DokturProfesur]

@@Zonkotron This is why the propellers of old steam ships were bolted on, because the cavitation would destroy the blades over time, right?

[@Redeyes0815]

@@Zonkotron Yep, I can confirm this. I'm not an engineer and I only work in a dairy, but we use this principle every day. Most cooling systems and steam boilers work with this principle/knowledge. (In steam boilers, the principle is used in reverse. If you put water under pressure, it remains liquid, even if you heat it to over 100°C. In cooling systems, you use this by putting the coolant under pressure in a targeted way and then releasing this pressure again at the point where you want the cooling effect. By evaporating, the coolant absorbs heat and draws it from the environment, which is how you can cool a room. This is of course a very simplified explanation.) In Deliver Us Mars, Jingles also mentioned this. There was a point where you had to swim through an underground cave system, but Mars has so little pressure in its atmosphere that water cannot exist there in liquid form. If you heat it, it would immediately turn to steam (vaporization).

[@EnidLin-z3g]

Intuitive explanation: if you take water and relieve it from external pressure, it will turn into vapor. "Water" is what you get when you press water molecules together hard enough. This is what Earth's air layer does - presses down on everything on Earth. It presses down so hard that water molecules get close enough together to bond into liquid. There's also water pressing down on the water below it that adds to pressure. So, any time you sufficiently relieve the pressure, water molecules relax and go back into the vapor form. Submarine blades push water molecules even harder together when they cut into the water at the front, but immediately behind the blades, as water didn't fully fill the gap yet, there might not be enough molecules packed together to form liquid and you get vapor instead. All of the adjacent water quickly presses down on it though, turning it back into liquid.

[@schaddenkorp6977]

As someone that when they were a child had a submarine bath toy with a wind up propeller that let it zoom around under the water, usually just banging into the side or bottom of the tub - hence why it eventually broke, I was able to fully comprehend that fast spinny thing underwater go BLORB BLORB!

[@VenturaInter]

When you get the Alfa in this mission, I've found success with using the Prowler's ecm defensively. Bringing back the prowlers to the task force, around 5 nmi behind it, and using their electronic jamming on Kirov's missiles themselves to defend the fleet. As long as the one popping up is jammed and misses, I've found that the others ones will just follow it right past the fleet. Once the Alfa has been dealt with by the helis and the Kirov stops firing, I usually move them back towards the soviets and use them to jam the Kirov group before firing the B-52's harpoons at them. I've tried this a couple times and have been able finish the mission without a vessel being hit. Thankfully the Prowlers don't have a base set in the mission so they can continue being of use even after going bingo on fuel.

[@pavelalexe9254]

This is the kind of game that I'd hate to play myself but it's amazing to watch jingles play.

[@frankholub4673]

It’s simultaneously stressful yet boring at the same time. A lot of the scenarios are way too big and complex but it is impressive

[@SirOsisofLiver]

@@frankholub4673 It's like FarmSim but the tractors periodically explode. I never could get into these sorts of combat simulators.

[@TheGiggityG]

Concur. I could get into cold waters but this is overwhelming

[@Cdodders27]

How many pairs of binoculars did the Captain of the Kirov throw at the Kresta?

[@Pincer88]

😂

[@horstyoutube6413]

I wonder if Phalanx could track and intercept binoculars before they hit

[@phantanhuy9444]

2nd Pacific Squadron reference spotted!

[@masterdynamo6457]

This is an obscure reference. I like this.

[@EricDKaufman]

I see what you did there. You made me choke on my jamaican jerk flank steak.

[@MaddestRaven]

This will be missed in the whole load but, Jingles: you don't need to set your status off of EMCON to fire radar-guided missiles if your ship has a FCR. Regardless of what your radio status is for a unit or formation, if you order them to fire a sensor guided weapon, they will automatically activate whatever radar / system is necessary, for the duration, and then turn it off. You can even watch FCRs rotate to the target when ordering to fire. Your radio orders literally ONLY dictate the use of surface navigation, sonar, and air search radars. They don't do anything to interrupt fire controls.

[@duvagr007]

Modern naval warfare is TERRIFYING. Imagine that Soviet sailor chilling, tracking a couple of MASSIVE air contacts, then all of a sudden the sky lights up with a bunch of missiles, and then about 2 minutes later you go completely blind and can't see ANYTHING because some silly boi in an unarmed jet is just throwing a metric shit ton of radio waves at you from 20K ft and then your ship just explodes around you. Honestly it's a horror movie.

[@BrbWifeYelling]

Read Red Storm Rising

[@duvagr007]

@BrbWifeYelling I'll give it a look. Heard of it, but I don't read as much as I used to.

[@Vinemaple]

This is why I just watch the Jingles videos

[@IowanLawman]

If this is terrifying, you should read what the guys at STRATCOM are up to and the reality of things when the really big missiles start flying.

[@certifiedsynth]

This was the first scenario I ever played. I lost the Paul F. Foster, the Jouett, the McDonough, one of the B-52s and expended about 40 missiles of various types. All that for a Kirov, its escorts, and one of the landing ships. I quit the scenario early due to a lack of time and the game called this charade a decisive victory.

[@EricDKaufman]

Welll you stopped the invasion

[@the_Carthaginian1]

Holding Guam is a decisive victory... strategically speaking. The men in the water with you might see it another way, but at least Washington won't be TOO mad.

[@entropy2100]

Really enjoy this game. Jingles commentary really makes it understandable

[@TallulahSoie]

I almost can hear my family members who were in the Navy all say "They'd never do that." when I watch these. They used to do it all the time when watching movies.

[@nemooooooooooooooo]

Jingles, Mk48 as you certainly know (It was coverd in ColdWaters videos as well) is wire guided torpedo, and it is modeled in SeaPower. When you noticed that your torps missed or are searching in wrong area, you could have selected them on tact map like any other unit and give them order to change direction and point them back towards the target. Assuming of course that you didn't already did something with the sub that would cause wire snap or be cut And side note, keeping one of your EW planes with the fleet could save your unfortunate ship as it is possible to jam missiles in their terminal guidance as well.

[@0katmandude0]

Wouldn"t it have been more productive to split the incoming b52s in different attack vectors? At least 65 ° ? Harpoons would more difficult to track and engage. Knowing the position of the cwiz , on the front of those ships, perhaps one attack vector from the rear quarter? Excellent vid by the way! Might endulge in the game at one point😊

[@The_MightyJingles]

Yeah that would have probably been better.

[@Tank50us]

Oh Jingles, if you think this is bad.... well... you're gonna just _love_ Battle of Pine Valley >:)

[@ichnafi8512]

I don't think the B52 @2:08 will fly in that kind of formation, unless the second one loves serious aviation problems.

[@birchellgoldston9977]

That a rough ride. Crossing someone's wake turbulence even a minute later will definitely wake up the crew.

[@OldRhino]

Was thinking the same thing.

[@Nikolai2s]

Large aircraft in formation (even small ones and missiles sometimes) are still quite glitchy, but at least now they USUALLY don't phase-into each other. 😝

[@Vinemaple]

Yeah, that and the Kresta-class cruiser trying to hold station astern while going faster than the Kirov-class. Stable build, not release, lol. I'd take it, though, since they're clearly busy programming the units with realistic tactics and strategy first.

[@lincolnb-w2558]

'All your guam...', classic I wonder how many people get that referrence!

[@OkaNieba]

I was there, 3000 years ago....good times

[@acrazedtanker1550]

Ah, mistranslation at its finest.

[@wargamingsupernoob]

Not familiar. Is it something old people say? Im only in my 20s.

[@boobah5643]

@@wargamingsupernoob You can probably find an old viral video if you search for "All Your Base Are Belong To Us." It's a reference to a (poorly) translated version of the Sega Genesis game _Zero Wing._

[@arashbadie]

@@wargamingsupernoob search for "All your base are belong to us".

[@cgilleybsw]

Looking at the various comments - I'm laughing at myself. For about 25 years of my career I worked at Hughes Aircraft (missiles), TRW (ew) and a few other places. Growing up, I read every book I could find on WW1, WW2, Vietnam and anything I could get 70s - 90s military tech. Then I went to the commercial side - had to feed a family. Oh how I wish I could get my clearance back. I'd willing come out of retirement to work in ASW. Funny part - Jingles hits real hard in his comments about signals, emcon that stuff, as an old crow (look it up) I had the opportunity to listen to an SR71 pilot at Robins AFB GA. His words: "I'm not sure why I'm really here. Our version of electronic warfare is to advance the throttles and climb...." :) there you go.

[@TallulahSoie]

SR-71's speed and altitude was an escape plan if SHTF, wasn't it? Otherwise it was just taking pictures.

[@15nyonker]

@@TallulahSoieAt mach 2 or 3

[@wargamingsupernoob]

​@@15nyonkerMach 3 if I remember my history correctly.

[@wargamingsupernoob]

"I'm not sure why I'm really here." Lmfao!!!

[@Invictus_Terminus]

I just learned WAAY more than I thought I would about naval warfare.

[@mnamnam6061]

I love to listen to somebody who is capable to deliver real interesting facts and combine it with a laugh, though I can't play war games any more.

[@michaelbourgeault9409]

11.08 SSN19 Shipwreck Missile -> It is thus called because it is a missile, and wrecking ships is what it does.

[@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA]

It’s also called the shipwreck because shipwreck starts with an S

[@jaywerner8415]

Pretty good name for a ANTI SHIP missile to be honest. Does what it says on the tin.

[@Nikolai2s]

​@@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA I honestly believe the people creating the NATO reporting names directly took the perceived threat capability in-mind when deciding on the names, in addition to the starting letter and 2 syllables. See: Fishpot/bed, F*g*t VS Flanker, Fulcrum, Foxbat. Or SS-9 Scarp VS SS-18 Satan. The only real exception is the SS-N-12 Sandbox is a little childish sounding for a fairly capable ASM, but I guess the name still has a sort of kick to it.

[@EricDKaufman]

Leave up to Jingles to get into a gun fight in a game called "Naval Combat in The Missile Age"

[@Insquidious_txt]

Jingles you salty bastard, you sure do know how to show me a good time!! Love these vids :)

[@kaltaron1284]

Are you going to jam their radars with rhaspberry flavour?

[@Nugire]

Rear Admiral Lonestar

[@prollins6443]

Since he is British, I think he used marmalade. It's probably a bit chunkier than then jam or jelly.

[@CommodoreRayne.IMP.C-1824]

🤨

[@jessegd6306]

Jam it with grape flavor, I hear grape is bad for dogs.

[@kaltaron1284]

@@prollins6443 Yeah, the joke only works for very specific cultures/languages unfortunately.

[@hecklepig]

My dad served as a radioman on a Knox class, the USS Lang in the late 60s early 70s. He also served on a Belknap class cruiser, the USS Fox.

[@charliedontsurf334]

This is why there are only 2 types of ships in modern naval combat. Submarines and targets.

[@squidmonkey940]

11:26 Accurate-ish livery on the Prowlers! VAQ-139 Cougars... 139 was my first squadron back in 1988 - 1991.

[@jamesallen8838]

Really enjoy this series and your commentary. Thanks 👍

[@DeusEx1977]

Absolutely loving the new Naval Power content. Keep it up!!!

[@Aris262]

13:46 did jingles hit his own b-52 with a harpoon....?

[@cgilleybsw]

Oh another thing - the surface search radar detecting periscopes is no joke. If a US sub pops it's scope up, it's for about 3 seconds - maybe.

[@Julius_Hardware]

Well Jingles left the ECM mast up for at least half an hour. It’ll be fine

[@BizzLeVrai]

love the video love the comments. jingle channel is truly a space of choice.

[@michielvanhemert9943]

happy newyear, Uncle Jingles !!!!

[@leelime9857]

Thanks for this Mr jingles really enjoying these

[@tomriley5790]

Jingles - the layer is just about sonar - the division between warmer water near the surface and colder deeper oceanic water, pressure increases linearly with depth - so if you want submarines to go as fast as possible (wihtout cavitating) then send them as deep as possible.

[@richardbell7678]

More on jamming: The power of the return falls off at the fourth power of the range, while the effective noise of the jamming signal only drops off at the square of the range, so jamming takes a lot less power than generating a detectable return. The jamming aircraft can be much further away and running at lower power and still mask a contact from a powerful radar transmitter. The other big difference between the Sunburn and Shipwreck is that the Sunburn has a 500 kg warhead versus the 1000 kg warhead of the Shipwreck. A last thing about the Shipwreck is that it is large enough and fast enough that it is debatable that the phalanx could do enough damage in the short time that it could engage to prevent the Shipwreck's warhead from reaching the ship, if it failed to detonate the warhead

[@liivetookmyname1830]

Always such a blast watching these videos it's like listening to my dad waffle on about his time in the navy. Never gets old I could listen to jingles explain naval tactics and tech for hours.😊

[@feep_show5515]

Jingles, as an EA-6B NFO with 2,400 flight hours in the jet, I thought you did a good job utilizing the Electronic Attack capabilities of the Prowler in this scenario. There were a few optimizations available but I'm not going to quibble. Great explanations for the average viewer as well.

[@arnopakarinen6977]

Kiitos!

[@cgilleybsw]

"The way jamming works.... it's actually pretty simple." Oh Jingles, never change :).

[@leonpeters-malone3054]

If you're wondering about our dearest Gnome overlord use of the word Degrade here? I've heard EW warfare principles described in the following terms, Delay, Degrade, Deny. If you can't deny their signal, degrade it, if you can't degrade it, delay it. Make it so that they can't get get good returns or by the time they get good returns, it's too late to anything about it. It's already too late to effectively counter the threat. At least in this scope, it has a few different implications related to the application of in communications. It's a deeply interesting subject, if very, very dense.

[@theleva7]

I admire those that wrangle radiowaves for a living. Every time I try looking into the world of black magic and witchcraft for anything more involved than setting up LoRa for a DIY thing, my brain Hertz.

[@leonpeters-malone3054]

@@theleva7 It's a subject that requires a whole watt of love to really go into. There's a whole heap of detail it gets weird, where things just plain get interesting because of local conditions. Like RADAR being able to see over the horizon because of the material in the ground.

[@jikemenkins7098]

I'm really enjoying the Sea Power videos!

[@Wolf-Rayet_Arthur]

the EW planes have a limited range for jamming, and you were probably about 50NM short of the planes being in range to jam the kirov. You can see the range of the jamming with the purple cone, and a jammed ship will have what looks like a little lightbulb beside their track name. This scenario has a 50% chance for a USN sub and a 50% chance for a soviet one. In my experiences its either a sub for you or a sub for them, not both

[@AFNacapella]

looking forward to watch this when I'm back home catch you next week!

[@Ghotiermann]

Ahh, yes. When I was on my first submarine (which was also a Sturgeon class), back in nineteen mumblemumble, we used to play wargames with the USS Graything. Were the capabilities of the Sturgeon class in the game correct? Gee, look at the time! Gotta run! (As far as I know, they are still classified).

[@rickansell661]

This is why, as someone who started analysing military stuff for the UK government in 1986, and now writes Software in support of that, I never play games set after 1950. Unless it is for 'the job'. It was an informal but agreed amongst ourselves rule in the Wargames Club at my first establishment. I stick with 1950 as there is still stuff that is not publicly released.

[@mmarsh1972]

Jingles...Wouldn't it make sense for the USS Greyling to target the escorts with its AGM-84 Harpoons and once they are dealt with close the distance to engage the Rapucha Class Transports with the MK.48 Torpedoes.

[@Sasha-jk6wo]

I like these videos too, I don't think there's been a video i didn't like to some extent but I'd like to see more of these.

[@Huntress236]

Nice to see some spruance class dd action. My dad served on the USS Comte De Grasse DD-974

[@geoffreyrichardson8738]

I thought you were an ex senior sailor not an officer. Senior sailors never make mistakes, rule one. If a senior sailor ever makes a mistake see rule one, officers on the other hand…..

[@CommodoreRayne.IMP.C-1824]

He was the ships writer. I dint believe thats a particularly high position although I've never served in the Royal Navy so its just an assumption

[@geoffreyrichardson8738]

@@CommodoreRayne.IMP.C-1824 He finished up as a chief petty officer

[@jaywerner8415]

@@geoffreyrichardson8738 VERP! Huh, so he almost got to the same level as Master Chief eh?

[@arnoldwardenaar127]

But then again, he is Jingles and, by his own admission, he is crap....

[@geoffreyrichardson8738]

@ true, so true but like us he is only human

[@rodnichalet8429]

Because of your videos on Sea Power I am addicted to this game!

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

17:55 By doing the old Zinovy Rozhestvensky classic of shouting expletives through the radio and then going to the helicopter deck and throwing binoculars off of it.

[@theleva7]

They're in EMCON, he's hoisting flags and using signal lamps

[@mathewb7609]

Love this series please keep it up!

[@DeclanGeorge]

FYI you can have 4 B52s in a flight for a total of 48 harpoons, having tested it, it might be one of the most overpowered things in the game.

[@Kaarl_Mills]

could be worse: The buff could instead go dynamite fishing with nukes

[@dustinshadle732]

I keep imagining the music group, "The B-52's", firing missiles on the soviet ships, and chuckling to myself. I need to wake up. Lol. I love what im seeing in this game. By the time im back on my feet, it'll have even more tpys in it to play with. Imagine all of the nato ships and air power that can still be put in. I'd imagine there would be a Falklands war scenario and possibly right up through desert storm. Mods already in works, im sure. One of these days, we may see one of the boats you served on, Jingles, in a time and action that would have put you in your duties. Thankfully, it didn't happen IRL. War makes some amazing innovations, but it does horrible things to the world, not just us humans.

[@Rockhound1943]

fascinating video, thanks Jingles

[@dastoex]

I'm not sure whether that formation of one B-52 flying directly behind another at a distance of what looks like about 100 meters is entirely up to code. I'd definitely rather be in the front one than the back one...

[@osimandus]

As an ex squaddie, based in Germany, we were more worried about the SS 20. I used to keep a timetable of the ferry from Holland to the UK for that very reason!

[@TrickiVicBB71]

Been watching a little bit of Stealth17, Wolfpack345 play this game. Glad to see this on a Thursday

[@luksweam]

15:20 Oh, dear! My time has come... "Akhchually, Jingles, visual horizon at sea level is 4.8km for a person of average height which is about 2.6 nauti..." No, please, Jingles!!! Nooooooo!!!

[@soldierofwessex7616]

its alot further than that, the visual horizon at sea level is about 20miles

[@rustywarrior5288]

All depends on the height of the observer - if the person is 6ft tall then yeah - if they are five foot it will be less, 7 foot slightly more. Visual horizon from the deck of the ship means deck height of the observer plus height of the observer. Which is why the crows nest was invented :)

[@DarkPhoenixDack125]

Because the height of the ships matter, you can see things about 12 nautical miles away. Souce: I am in the Navy and we have tests about this. Hope this helps!

[@soldierofwessex7616]

@@rustywarrior5288 i live in the uk, about 40 miles from central london on a good day you can see the shard as well as other large buildings in the centre, the land isnt flat but its near enough (only about 20m altitude difference)

[@luksweam]

That turned out to be a nice rabbit hole. Lovely! Every source I've consulted gives an answer that differs a little. in general, if we ignore visibility conditions, obstacles, etc. it goes like this: your visual horizon (in nautical miles) equals square root of elevation of your point of view (in feet), then times 1.225 (or a bloody 1.17 according to another source!) so for an "average height person" i.e. 5 feet at the sea level, it will be 2.6-2-8 nmi (-ish) which is +/- 4.8km Hence, from a command deck of a ship you can see quite far, from a small sailboat not much and from the actual sea level i.e. as a swimmer or a diver that's f... really very little.

[@tacitus6384]

Thank you for this, Jingles. You're my company while I enjoy a whiskey and do some AoE mage grinding in classic wow.

[@mihaitha]

Trying to establish radar contact while jammed is like listening to what your buddy is yelling at you from the other side of a room full of people yelling.

[@kdog3908]

Wonderful demo of the value and power of ELINT/EW! (Electronic Intelligence/Electronic Warfare.)

[@Uwe-lg1yo]

This video Series of Yours is very Entertaining to Watch

[@davidlabedz2046]

Very good explanation of Sea Power variables .

[@dcbadger2]

I love how your surface force is only a mix of destroyers and frigates, but it is actually five different classes of ships

[@MrJJSimonds]

I appreciate a game that isn't easy... so you feel like you accomplished something.. kinda like when WoWS first came out, by the time you got to tier ten, you bloody well deserved it. I look fwd to more scenario play-throughs...

[@Arclite02]

This scenario was pretty damned easy, though - fly 2 planes here, press the big red button... And win. Realistic yes, but seems pretty boring in terms of gameplay.

[@MrJJSimonds]

@@Arclite02 ...did you watch the end , where he explained how the several tries prior failed.... because the scenario was not easy???

[@johnapppel64]

This is the kind of thing that makes me glad to have been a treadhead, cavalry scout variant.

[@rightlyryan]

More Seapower, hell yeah!!

[@ApproachDiverging013]

Bravo zulu RADM Jingles, excellent use of the Prowler squadron to jam the Soviet task force and their ability to defend themselves from the Harpoon strike. I still think Russian weaponry and their ability to defend themselves to be largely exaggerated after the fate of the cruiser Moskva and the constant technical problems of the actual Kirov that kept her largely in drydock rather than on patrol. Semper Fidelis, your friendly neighborhood crayon eater and former WOWS scapegoat.

[@MrZcar350]

I see they're still using a mix of the pre- and post- 1975 hull classifications. Yarnell and Jouette using the pre-1975 Destroyer Leader classification with the Foster, Macdonough and Brewton using the post-1975 Frigate and Destroyer classifications.

[@Pincer88]

Really enjoy these videos! When in with the infantry in the Army back in the 1980ies, I deplored not being drafted into the Royal NL Navy. Those guys were always warm, got their meals cooked, could sleep in a comfortable bed and they had post the UK's Falklands War a decent CIWS (the RNL Navy had Goalkeepers with the same 30mm GAU-8A gatling gun as the A-10A Warthog) keeping them safe. At least, that's what I thought. Watching this however, I guess our chances of survival as mud eating land lovers now look a bit more favorable than that of the sailors on our flimsy frigates.

[@stmichaelminion]

Great videos because of your knowledge and narrative!

[@olivergoodridgeify]

Jingles you should check out Brother Munros mode for the SH2 Sea Sprite that adds some of the capability it had in later versions such as being able to launch AGM-65b mavericks and AGM-119 Penguin missiles.

[@JessWLStuart]

Well played Jingles!

[@Nastalas]

Spaceballs - Jamming

[@simonbas6]

Question: If the SS-N-19 homes in on a jammer, could you put one of the E-war planes on station behind the task force, dummy the salvo of SS-N-19s over the top of the SAG by using its radar jammer and then turn that off once the missiles are clear of the SAG? or, if the missiles home on a jammer, could you pull them up from sea skimming altitude using the E-war planes as decoys, allowing the SAG more time to attempt intercepts with their SAMs?

[@Elkatook666]

oooohh AWACS i used to work alongside the RAF as a civil servant , working for the E3-D , the english AWACS great job, obviously, cant talk about it , national security and all that!!

[@draigaur9543]

every time jingles said B2's , my brain went, " LOVE SHACK yeaaaah" XD

[@dougroberts3840]

Put all your ships in EMCON, then if you have an Aircraft Carrier, launch an RA-5C Vigilante, put it at maximum altitude and turn on its Air/Surface Radars, you should then pick up enemy ships, planes, helicopters, and incoming missiles, while your ships remain relatively invisible to the enemies radars, I've been doing this and it's been working good for me, I've been able to fire RGM-109B anti-surface missiles from the USS Virginia Missile Cruiser at roughly 235nm without worrying about the enemy firing back. I'm gonna test this again using the E-2C Hawkeye, it doesn't have the altitude that the RA-5C has, so I think I'll have to get it closer to where I think the Enemy are at. For me, this is the fun of this game.

[@marks285]

I got this with a sov sub and no sub my side. Kinda frustrating you can't edit the formation before you spawn in, but sent the two harpoon equipped ships to run away at flank, pulled the other 3 forward with all the radars up and set the ECM planes to jam the incoming missile path. Lost 2 of the front 3, but managed to clean up/complete with the remaining 3 once the the helos sunk the sub and the rain of shipwrecks stopped.

[@rodiculous9464]

Haven't watched jingles in years after I quit WOT, dropped back in on a random whim and glad to see his is still up to his old tricks! I agree, russian missile tech is wild. Quite a lot of that being showcased in "recent events" as well.

[@SmokeJam]

17:42 that's called heating up the keel before the start lineup.

[@markfrank3307]

Good morning GNome overlord. All the best.

[@jackzhang8677]

The Kirov's air defences aren't that difficult to overwhelm. Its fire control radar can guide half a dozen missiles simultaneously, where the Ticos SPY-1 radar can provide mid course guidance for its entire missile complement and illuminating targets for missiles at a time in the terminal phase. You can send your B-52Gs to the north east to launch their harpoons against the Kirov. By doing this, you avoid the Harpoons overflying the escorts and possibly targeting them instead or being shot down on the way to Kirov. A 16 missile barrage is sufficient to disable the Kirov. After that, have the submarine pick off the escorts and landing craft while the B-52Gs send the remainder of their missiles at the Sovremeny. Once the Kirov and Sovremeny are gone, your surface force can slowly approach and engage the remainder with Harpoons.

[@CallioNyx]

I'm not here to see Jingles complete missions flawlessly. I'm here to see the old man play missions the first time, win or lose. That's interesting. If you know he plays them till he gets a perfect result - it becomes a bit of a senseless exercise.

[@acyde125]

Honestly i was pleasently surprised that some of the EW knowledge i got from playing Nebulous Fleet Command carried over to this too

[@advorak8529]

31:20 Musings of how close must you get so your torpedo catches the Sovremennyy. You can launch (theoretically) from 11.6 nmi away, though I would suggest no more than 10-11nmi as your torpedo may not run a perfectly straight line. How to calculate: 1. Torpedo runtime: Your torpedo runs at 50kts for 20nmi. 20nmi / 50kts = 0.4h (24 minutes) 2. Enemy distance covered in the torpedo runtime: This Sovremennyy at this time: 21kts (undamaged they can do 33kts). In 0.4h it can run 21kts * 0.4h = 8.4nmi 3. Subtract the enemy distance traveled during the torpedo runtime from the maximum range of the weapon: 20nmi - 8.4nmi = 11.6nmi 4. 11.6nmi is your maximum possible engagement range under these circumstance.

[@Shinigamiusmc]

Jingles, use the Prowlers to jam the missiles

[@firehawk894]

17:00 - Huh? You mean jamming doesn't work like in Far Cry 6 where there are numerous "jamming trailers" all over the place which magically jam every frequency except radio and every one you destroy doesn't lower the "jamming percentage"?

[@windoverwaves6781]

Jinges you can maybe try pushing the Knox up front, say 20 nm from the ad cruisers? that way that ship can engage at much the same time as the cruisers, and well, if it push come to shove, it can serve as the sponge.

[@derpypotatos4610]

I see the mission is set in 1988 but the scenario is using the 1968 version of Lehay and 1972 version of the Belknap. The RIM-2 has been retired for a long time with it being 1988.

[@jameskerr3258]

Love these!

[@Ineptus_Mechanicus]

"and we have two B-52s" I about shit myself laughing.

[@computair6920]

Could the AWACS be used to track ASM while they're under the horizon and provide a firing solution for long range interceptors ?

[@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA]

I would be interested to see you take command of an Orel-class aircraft cruiser, Jingles. The scenarios “strawberries can kill (red side)” and I think it’s called “breakthrough” feature them under player control

[@armandorodrigues144]

Jingles you forgot you could use the SH-2's as early warning to detect the soviet missiles

[@pauldockins9635]

That was stimulating.

[@davidwhitfield6025]

Yes the appearance of the Alpha really changes the dynamic of this scenario (and it seems the Alpha tends to appear the first time you play this one to ruin your surface fleet's day).

[@roncyr1850]

i picked it up last week...long awaited

[@pmbeavis4467]

Wow...1st for the first time in almost 2 decades of following the not so old man