SealMan Questions

[@LucretiusDraco]

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[@realBreakfasttacos]

Thank you!

[@theintegrator]

Sealman’s arguments keep narrowing down to citing increasingly specific details, hoping to land a punch. It’s a typical theist mistake and painfully familiar. TJump is always fun to listen to.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Yes they do! I always have fun with TJump.

[@ghostpacas7600]

It doesn’t matter what you say, these theist will refuse to grasp any arguments or evidence you provide that might contradict their already held belief. They will either not answer or come up with nonsensical extreme hypotheticals to hold on to their dogmatic beliefs. Very silly and dishonest. I feel it’s useless to argue with theist who refuse to acknowledge points.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

I feel like a lot of it is just intellectual dishonesty.

[@benduhova1643]

Howdy

[@realBreakfasttacos]

Hey there!

[@algramic195]

TJumps Objective Morality is a plausible way to do Objective Morality, I just think it's dumb, and I doubt evidence could ever be found for it's existence. Involuntary Impositions of Will is a terrible way to define a moral action. Plenty of actions that violate peoples will is moral. Basically every time someone challenges TJump on this topic he gets destroyed, this time included. TJumps needs to show that his supposed trend is not the effect of something else. Like the dominant cultural powers of the world, imposing their morality on other cultures. For TJumps trend to be evidence for his hypothesis, he would need aliens (as he used as an example) to show the trends independence. The human cultures is WAY too connected to show any independence of this trend, and not just cultural powers influence.

[@derkylos]

It's nice that you claim that 'Plenty of actions that violate peoples will is moral.' Care to give an example? Remember how 'moral' is defined in this instance.

[@realBreakfasttacos]

I don't agree with his moral position, but I do understand it. It's always interesting to see how people respond to it.

[@Altitudes]

​@@derkylosChildren, obviously. I mean, TJump wants to exempt them because they aren't mentally developed enough but since they very clearly have will that just seems entirely ad hoc.