Hey guys to clarify some things and address some comments. 1. “New players don’t have access to camo/flags” -This is true, but, the claim was that a new player who spends their money can buy booster flags/camos to fly to tier X. This of course means that they have access to these items. Most new players will stick to grinding at least for 20-30 battles which is more than enough to unlock the exterior tab with signal flags and camo (it only takes 5 battles to unlock this). 2. “You have games up to T3 in the IJN cruisers” -Yes, I do, I had to play a few when I grinded through the IJN BB line 3 years ago. But I only had to play one game in the Hashidate to get enough FXP to get to T4 (then using FXP from the containers I go to T5). Meaning I did not have to play T2-T4 during this hyper grind session. 3. “This is clickbait” -clickbait is lying in your title in order to get clicks. I grinded to the Zao in 22 games. You can check my stats to see that. 4. Some people seem to be missing that I did this to prove that a player with my resources; the money, knowledge, and experience. Using the system of buying containers to get signal flags/camo available to new players, can grind to TX in as few as 20 games. Of course it would take a new player longer, I even address that in the video. 5. “But you have special camos and credits!” Again....”With MY RESOURCES”. Plus, if a new player purchases Premium Time, on top of these signals and camo, they will have enough credits to continue. I know this as I have grinded many a line before I even started YT, and only had credit issues when I went full potato and barely did anything in battle.
@Creatureofday4 жыл бұрын
But the people with your knowledge and experience aren't a problem with the game. If you are a new player, even with dumping loads of money into a free game (which most people wont), you will still probably average 5k-7k per game for xp, thats still well over a hundred games, not counting what you'd need to play to be able to afford the ships. Thats assuming they would average 700 xp per game, since they have no idea what they're doing, have premium, have camos, and stack all the flags. I really don't think that the grind time on the normal tech tree is a problem with the game. I think that balancing issues are a problem, and I think being able to straight up buy tier 9 ships.
@captain_loeffel4 жыл бұрын
@@Creatureofday I know players that started new and never played WoWs before and needed just about 150 battles to get to their first T10. They invested money. So what he is saying is a real problem. A new player might not be able to make it that fast, but far too fast. In the beginning a good new player needed about half a year or even more to get his first T10. Much more than getting premium time wasn't possible. An average player needed a year. Now it is going so fast, that they just don't need even the basics of the game and for sure not the different ships, not even those they used themselves. It wasn't possible if you finished a ship and advanced to the next one you had played this shippen so damn often, that you knew how to use it and what you're not allowed to do without being wrecked. You also learned a lot about your components. These days they have no idea about all this and I don' talk about knowing what capping means, the different game and battle modes and so on.
@joey_f4ke2384 жыл бұрын
@@captain_loeffel I have a pretty decent winrate of around 55% and have been playing for three years now and i have over 2000 battles, I got my first t10 ship this year around may. The grind for free to play players is extremely long even if you are good at the game so i totally agree with you. Back in the day when i was grinding the aoba and finally made it to the myoko it felt like it had been ages
@captain_loeffel4 жыл бұрын
@@joey_f4ke238 There is a real inflation with all currencies it doesn't matters if we talk about XP (any kind) or credits or even coal. Some are affected more than others. Why did the first freeXP ships "just" cost 750.000XP and now they are at 1.000.000 or more? Because it is so much easier to get FreeXP. Yes, for a player only playing F2P it is still a grind and even with what you get in the game it stays to be a grind. Premium Time was upgraded from 50% to 75% at least if you just play WoWs. Then those flags you can buy and also those containers. So if someone invests money he will be very soon at T10 @Joey_f4ke I play since the beginning of open beta and I played most time with premium time (only in the beginning I wasn't) that already made a huge difference, but now, where I have signals and camos it is insane how fast I can get through a ship if I really want to. Even without FreeXP the amount of additional XP from signals and camos is huge. I am just an average player, but getting a FreeXP ship isn't really hard with signals and flags so if someone use it to advance too he is at T10 in no time. And in my opinion this as very bad for the game.
@Tuning34344 жыл бұрын
SLM -is doing- committed to the mortal sin, liking his own comment :P
@blueangels1114 жыл бұрын
Breakdown for anyone wondering: When in an all same tier match, you want to shoot the lowest max hp ship, as you get more for damage percentage. When in a scrambled tier, you want to shoot the highest tier first, but then the highest tier with the lowest hp. If you are t5, shooting a t7 bb would give more than a t5 dd, but if you have a t7 bb and a t7 dd, you will get most for shooting the dd
@aronpro20654 жыл бұрын
Whoosh :D
@blueangels1114 жыл бұрын
@@aronpro2065 what?
@lubossoltes3214 жыл бұрын
that depends ... how much can damage can you deal to the T7BB compared to the T5DD ? if you can kill the DD in less time than it takes you to equivalently damage the T7BB then the DD is a better target ...
@blueangels1114 жыл бұрын
@@lubossoltes321 yea that is correct, my bad. If you're a bb at 10km, you arent gonna be doin much to the dd. However, the rest of it is true, and almost any time, shoot the dd
@arkama673 жыл бұрын
thanks for summarizing the 16min clickbait
@philiphoyler63214 жыл бұрын
watches this video... looks at own 500-odd battles played as almost entire F2P player, and rather abysmal stats slowly heaped together over four years of intermittent gameplay... suddenly feels ashamed for being so excited for finally unlocking Fletcher my first T9 ship earlier today... slinks away to cry... I mean other than how much this hurt, it's a great video that gets the point across very well. Great job mate. I look forward to your next video, and congratulate you on your achievement!
@lordnicenstein51053 жыл бұрын
Wtf have you been doing for 4 years? It took me maybe 50 battles to get the zao as a noob.And I have played around 40 now in the BB line and am at the Izumo rn 🤷🏻♂️ I know the game can be Grindy , especially in lame (imo) lower tier battles. But otherwise it's about not knowing how to play and farm efficiently.
@jameshenderson48762 жыл бұрын
You aren't alone.
@Anldiot694 жыл бұрын
I never doubt it would be possible with all flags, premium account and camos. Every time I get free premium for a day or so I also use all flags and camos and make like 30k xp per battle. (I keep the free xp for else) But having very few of these flags I barely use them and end up grinding Tier 1-10 in roughly 250 battles.
@generaltnt27904 жыл бұрын
yeah and that is fine because in those 250 battles you start to learn your line... But let us say, you are a new player, who does not conserve his free xp and will spend some money on the game, you get to t10 in 100 battles, do you think that player really knows a lot about the game? How good is he at angling, does he know when to use HE or AP? Does he know how to play the ship properly? I would guess no, that is the problem, he is playing tier 8-10 ships, but does not understand most mechanics yet, if you get a lot of players like that you end up with blowout matches... That is the point he is trying to make...
@Anldiot694 жыл бұрын
@@generaltnt2790 I don't get players that are new to a game and spend instantly money. If it is free 2 play, don't you want to know if you even enjoy it in the first place? Saw a profile recently of a player with 300 battles. He had a Scharnhorst, Tirpitz, Puerto Rico, T61 and Pommern. His highest tech tree ship was a Kaiser and his overall WR 31% Why is someone throwing money on something they don't understand or properly play?
@generaltnt27904 жыл бұрын
@@Anldiot69 Lol I agree with you, those players completely misses the point of a f2p game, I guess that because of covid people were just bored and had money to spend?
@aravinthmohan70734 жыл бұрын
An idiot I think that u shouldn’t be able to play a premium of any tier until u get to that tier with a tech line ship of that class (bb or cv or whatever)
@rolan4dezwinz3814 жыл бұрын
An idiot Because it’s a game? Why do you care what people spend their money on? It’s like if you saw your neighbor’s car and thought “I know his job, he can’t afford that car”. Free 2 plays means people should spend money to support the developer; your logic doesn’t make any sense. A player should be more incentivized to spend more because it’s f2p.
@Jarrbot4 жыл бұрын
Wow i stand corrected. I thought there was no way you could grind so fast. I laughed when you said it originally
@brisngrfiftysix60854 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Flambass did this kind of thing 2 times but I think he also fully researched each ship that he went through, could be wrong about that, and if memory serves he did it in 23-25 games
@adriandreamwalker10274 жыл бұрын
I think you always need to fully research the ships though. You don't need to buy them, just research them, that's what Mountbatten did with tiers [2-4] jumping into the Furious Taco. Unless you mean Flambino fully researched as in upgrading every part of those ships into non stock :O
@Darkedge3614 жыл бұрын
Fr4g ground 1-10 in less than 24 hours on the german cruiser line, im not saying the average player or new player can do it but it is possible if your determined enough and he set an absolute no FXP rule, i wanna say he didn't use anything but basic signals either
@andrewduan51234 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest issue is the money. Credits are tough. Even if you make 1mil per battle and are in a max level clan, it would still cost far more credit than you could earn to make t10
@Tuning34344 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Duan Yes, I only started like 16 months ago, grinding through multiple lines at the same time, and credits are always something I keep an eye on. However, SLM might call himself average, but the 'good kind' of average in my point of view. SLM points still stays valid though: you don't need a lot of experience to end up in TX, if you can bumb rush in 50 matches or struggle 200 matches in.
@aravinthmohan70734 жыл бұрын
Sealord is average stats wise, and compared to flambass and others, but he also have plenty of credits from his time playing, which makes the difference between him and a new player
@wombat41914 жыл бұрын
But for the argument of this video, you can also buy credits in the premium shop. So if a whale wants to grind to T10, credits are not gonna be the problem.
@waltermelyon43003 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue is victory. Looks like he only lost once out of 11 games. In 2021 you lose 7 out of 10. His 20 victories would be 7 times harder or take about 140 battles in 2021. Without all the special signals and camo it took me 210 battles to reach T10 in 2021.
@1Woofer1 Жыл бұрын
the game would be so much better if they removed service cost. It serves no purpose other than punishing you even further for having bad games. And once you get up to like tier 9, if you don't have premium and aren't getting 100k+ damage per game, you're gonna be losing money.
@Glider58584 жыл бұрын
New challenge for you SeaLord. 1. Make a brand new account 2. Pick your favorite ship line and grind to T10. Then tell me how long it takes you to do this. I guarantee you it will be >200 battles.
@alexstynen924 жыл бұрын
What I see from my own play (30+ lvl6 ships) I have much more problems getting the credits for the higher tier ships, then getting the XP. I have the T9 soviet BB xp available, but don't have the credits. Same for the T8 British cruiser and one of the T8 DD's (not sure which one). I started dismounting modules using doubloons to save up on credits, starting using doubloons for retraining captains for the new ships, etc. But I am not using free XP anymore for getting to the new tier, not even for the hull upgrade. Can't pay for it anyway :) The main thing is with a player like Mountbatten and an average player like me (3 months in the game) is the lower amount of damage we do per game.
@am_staart95444 жыл бұрын
Only advice I can give is find a clan and participate in the 7v7 Battles. They take almost no time and you get loads of credits per match + some nice extra goodies.
@riccardorubini77874 жыл бұрын
true i spent more time farming credits for the T8-9-10 instead the exp was kinda easy, luckily i got the atlanta for credits
@IYF_Productions_SL4 жыл бұрын
@@Balazs227 that's the problem he was discussing about new inexperienced players showing up in high tier matches. For example a 3 month player that hasn't gotten their first tech tree T10 showing up in a T9-10 premium ship in a T10 match. When the Tirpitz came out we had a field day killing noobs that just signed up for the game and instantly dropped $80 on a shiny new BB. :/
@wisconsin16234 жыл бұрын
yea one of my friends has had the Ibuki for almost a year researched but he never got half the credits for it
@conandude764 жыл бұрын
NONONO this doesn't fit in with his line of bullshit. The argument was he blamed blowout matches on the grind being too easy / fast. Which is bullshit. Yes, someone with hundreds of millions of credits, opens boxes and containers, with literally 10's of thousands of matches played, if not more, can level like that. NO new / average player CAN do this. New players don't even get access to most of the game till 50 matches in or more for one thing, for another, you run out of credits. He of course doesn't mention any of this in his unicum grind using everything under the sun other than free exp conversion. Just right from the get go of the argument, if players are so BAD they are causing these blowout matches, then by that very same logic, they COULDN'T have had that many AMAZING matches in a row, carrying them to t10 that fast. Can't have it both ways, brochachos. Matchmaker is the problem here, plain and simple. This is WG, remember? The guys that made tanks, the game that would intentionally match you against people with premium stuff you don't have in order to entice you into buying...
@Straswa4 жыл бұрын
Impressive, Sea Lord. That's crazy that you were able to do that from tier 1 all the way to 10.
@turtle27204 жыл бұрын
14:57 Magic shots incoming. Look at those tracers :D
@ezequieldg75094 жыл бұрын
there's a huge factor thats going unmentioned here, the competitive drive of each player. which is what pushes you to search material about the game, watch tutorials or gameplay videos about the game, find out who the streamers/youtubers that play that game are, watch them play and listen to them talk about the game, LEARN, and then go put the things you learned to practice in your battles. if you play like you dont care if you live or die, or you dont pay atention to anything thats going on around you, your results are gonna suck, thats not a surprise. if you just wanna play for fun and have a laugh, thats great, but dont expect to have the same results or achieve them as fast as a player that put more conscious effort into it. just because you couldnt play the violin at a high level when you were 10 years old (or whatever the example may be), doesnt mean its impossible.
@mickaeldelatre33204 жыл бұрын
And 2000 games later I'm only at the first T10. Not even bought. What have I done with my games ? /o\
@michielvanosch52124 жыл бұрын
I'm over 3000 games in, only T10 I have is the yoshino. I did however earn it solely through playing the game
@DiegoPerez-qr5mr4 жыл бұрын
it took me 1000+ battles to get my first tier X when i started but it was because i was effing bad + there wasnt many boosters for free early in the game´s life
@DarthMcLeod4 жыл бұрын
You probably did what I did with my several thousand games. I jumped around and played lots of different ships without grinding a single one to death. On the one hand, my port has a T6 or better in almost every line. There's some T7s, T8s and T9s mixed in. On the other hand, the only T10 I have is the Moskva.
@NExT-zp2oo4 жыл бұрын
Darth MacLeod I’m grinding the for the Moskva right now, currently on the Kirov, is it good?
@DiegoPerez-qr5mr4 жыл бұрын
@@NExT-zp2oo the kirov is now a premium ship and the moskva a coal ship But I do have the moskva, its definitely different from the others on the line, from the budyonny onwards they play similar and are light cruisers and the moskva was a heavy one so that change was weird to do, right now I haven't played the new cruisers on the soviet line so I can't tell you how they are
@Momi_V4 жыл бұрын
Nice proof of your point, and considering you gave new players more than double that amount of matches to get to T10 in your original statement... my respect dude
@randomdude41364 жыл бұрын
People are still trying to talk about the technicalities of the "20 games to tier 10" but guys, even if its not 20 and its 60 games or 80 games it's still something you can do in 1-2 weeks if you play 6-10 games a day which probably only takes 2-4 hours a day. Even if you don't have the credits to buy the ships immediately if you have a t8+ premium you will at most need to add maybe another 50 games to make sometime like 25m credits to supplement the income from grinding the line. If you are willing to invest some money in the game grinding is still hella easy even if it isn't 20 games from t1-10. This is especially bad at tier 7-10 because that's when radars and CVs that actually start hurting appear, if you only spend 20-30 games from tier 7-10 you will not know how to deal with being constantly spotted and having to pay attention to radar ranges. This is likely why we see people running away to the edge of the map from the start of the game in BBs or pushing to bad positions and getting killed in 2 minutes in DDs and Cruisers at tier 10, they never had the time to learn how to use islands to push safely to firing positions, bait radars at max range then run away or stay together to kill CV planes before they can get more then 1 drop off. Some people might say that 1-2 hundred games is too much of a grind to unlock just 1 t10 line when there are so many more and i would agree IF the game had proper matchmaking which did not put a super unicum in the same game as a yamato player that averages 30k damage a game, however under the current circumstances the only thing that separates those 2 players from being in the same game is the fact that the yamato player probably has to grind 100 games to get to the yamato. In my opinion the current setup is really hurting the player base of the game, it's no fun when you spent 100 games to get to play the yamato only to be completely annihilated by a player who probably has 50x more time played then you and you don't even have the slightest clue on how to counteract what they are doing in game since you only have a handful of games played at t8+.
@conandude764 жыл бұрын
And NONE of this would be ANY issue what so ever if MM worked off of performance metrics. I.e. skill based MM, and or the game intro period actually taught people how to play basics. All this other crap instantly becomes a non issue with those simple 2 changes. Again, you are also claiming a 1-2 weeks old player is not only going to buy these bundles day one, but also buy a friggin premium tier 8 ship to earn credits, AND be good enough by then to average 500k credits or more every match for 50 matches, going by your example above. In their first 1-2 weeks, playing 2 hours per day, 4-6 matches at a time.... You see how far you're having to stretch it out to just lay blame for these blowouts or unskilled players, rather than the most base and simple explanation? MM needs to be skill based, and a 65 or more matches intro (like in this game) really should be actually teaching people how to play. These are 2 things almost all multiplayer games have as a matter of course.
@Sunnyboy-ob4xz4 жыл бұрын
I do feel like a new player would not be incentivised to buy containers, 2 $40 dollar packs are no small amount of money for a new player coming into what is advitised as a free to play game. Even if they are willing to spend money day 1, they are much more likely to spend the money on some premium ships. Historically significant ships like the Hood, Graf Spee and so on are much more appealing to a new player than premium flags which newer players might not even recognize how good they are. Even if we assume that some whale decided he want to buy the containers for a chance at getting one of the ships, but at 80 dollars they would just go and buy the ship. Also, new players would not know all the intricate details of how income works in the game, nor would they have the skill to farm damage every game. If anything what you demonstrated here is what experienced players would do to re-grind techlines for research points, not something a new players would be willing or capable of doing. Speaking of personal experiences, me being a slightly below average player with about 1400hrs in the game, I only have 9 tier X ships, and if we take away coal ships (Thunderer and Yoshino) that number goes down to only 7. I distinctly remember that getting to my first Tier X Yamato took me about 350 hrs (granted I wasnt just going all in every game with the IJN BBs, but we can assume most new players wouldn't be doing that either) and throughout most of the matches I didn't even know how important upgrades, captain skills are, or have any camo mounted. Its safe to say your average new players would not be able to grind through an entire techline in 20 games or 40 games. Edit: after some thoughts I also realised there's the problem of credits, I recall the game giving you quite a handsome amount as a new player but that was all but depleted by the time I got to the Izumo, and without premium accounts or a perma-camo, you would be losing money on every game you lost or in blow-out victories when you don't get to do much. 17million credits for a tier X ship is no easy thing when you are a new player.
@marcofava4 жыл бұрын
Yes my point exactly while it is possible to get to T10 in 40-50 battles even as a fully free to play gamer the thing that will trip you up is the credit hemorrhaging that will start to happen as soon as you get past T7, not to mention that without doubloons if you have upgrades on your ship you'll lose 50% of the value, and by T8 those upgrades start getting fairly expensive (between 3 and 5 million depending on the tier of the ship). Although on the new players not spending money on the game there will be plenty of players that will just pull the trigger on a T8 premium ship (like I initially did with Atago) simply to see high tier play maybe by the time they get to T6/7, and i know many of the people in my clan did the same when we started since ships for resources did not exist then. After getting my first T10 with Zao I only ever bought ships I was interested in and even then only like 1 every other year or so and never bought premium time or doubloons.
@neevdhawan42004 жыл бұрын
true . when grinded my American and soviet bb lines i would sell my older ship just to get the unlocked ship. Luckily having a premium tier 9 or 8 ship mitigates the credit issue to a large extent.
@Sunnyboy-ob4xz4 жыл бұрын
@@marcofava First premium I bought was the HSF Graf Spee, because its anime and its a Graf Spee satisying both my inner weeb and my love for historical warships. While being an okay ship it really didnt help much with the credit grind lol. Because I didn't have premium account or perma-camo I ended up going back to my Fuso and Nagato and started playing operations, its also where I first started using signal flags since a 20 percent credit bonus was definitly helping.
@DiegoPerez-qr5mr4 жыл бұрын
i mean theres plenty of "free to play" games that requiere more than that amount to play also because it is free to play you "save" the 60usd that games cost this days so you can use the money you would on a normal game for this and also because of the predatory ways other games work 2 bundles of 40usd isnt much... assuming theyre well off irl
@alexstynen924 жыл бұрын
After two weeks of play I bought the Scharnhorst. As I thought one of the selling points of premium ships was the XP being automatically available as free XP. To learn u need doubloons to transfer it :s Only now, after three months, am I enjoying the Scharnhorst, I just didn't know enough on how to play it. I used to sell t5/6 ships for the credits, however, with all the events etc, I like having the variety to pick a ship at a tier of my liking to get kills/caps/damage etc a bit faster.
@strangelove42674 жыл бұрын
To be honest, it is easy assuming that you have all the flags, camos and skill to grind from T1-T10. Most new players will not have those available and it will take them longer to progress. However can we see a tech line grind experiment with no camos, or flags?
@ainzooalgown75894 жыл бұрын
thats going to take like a few weeks to grind or at least 100 games
@albusvoltavern45004 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty new and I’m already at tier 6 with a destroyer playing 3-4 days a week for only a week, and I also have a Teir 5 cruiser, and a teir 4 battleship, and I don’t use flags..... if I put all my energy into one ship and use flags I’m sure I could get to teir 10 in 50ish battles. Welp I know what I’m doing tomarrow.
@sharathossainshihab55694 жыл бұрын
@@albusvoltavern4500 you Won't even with 1500-2500 xp point in battle
@foobar19794 жыл бұрын
@@albusvoltavern4500 To make it from t6 to t10 in 50 games I think you'd have to average 17000 xp a game.
@andrewduan51234 жыл бұрын
It would take at least hundreds of games remember, on average, you get roughly 1k xp base on a win. He is getting 20-30k per battle here. Even if you got consistent 2k xp games, it'd take at least 100-200 games to grind the 1million roughly xp needed to get to t10. Not to mention the real choke imo, credit gains. ships at t10 cos upwards of 15 million credits. If you earn 1million credit per battle, you would not make enough even with all the flags as shown here.
@CristiNeagu4 жыл бұрын
12:45 As an actual new player and pretty much an average Joe, i can tell you that's impossible. I think i played at least 30 games in the New York alone to get the New Mexico. You underestimate how much skill and knowledge you have.
@souptime95114 жыл бұрын
He also has like a 1500% xp boost in total with flags, camos and stuff
@kasece42614 жыл бұрын
Well thats not impossible I grinded petropavlosk in about 40 matches (Had atleast 8 blowout matches which is ended in 5 mins) But run out of credit due to other lines I'm grinding.
@CristiNeagu4 жыл бұрын
@@kasece4261 Something tells me you're neither a new player or an average Joe...
@QuantumShock14 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, been playing since open beta. Even with insane +100% XP camos, and XP flag stacking you will NOT go from tier I to X in 25 matches. Not unless you dive heavily into a pre-grinded free XP bank.
@richardcutts1964 жыл бұрын
I might point out that as an experienced player it's infinitely easier for you to grind to 10 then a new player.
@rustysimonds5011 Жыл бұрын
You need to do this in 2023, pick a single line, start out with nothing except a tier 1 in the branch line, start with no bonus flags etc, only use credits and such that are obtained via matches and chests. It would now take you about 60 matches. Given that your experience and knowledge of ships and tactics, what ever number of games you end up with, add another 5 to 10 to it as your certainly not a noob. I dont consider myself a noob at all and most of my matches in 2023 without bonus flags etc range from 150 base to 250 base for a really good game, alot of those being operation games, random games generally score about 80 to 100 and coop generally gets me 45 to 60 which blows my ight when they have upped the bots AI and in some of those games I would have received kraken award etc for destroying 5 or more ships yet all I ended up with is a measly 60xp. Its like a lot of your matches have premium captains / commanders. No normal free to play player has these commanders so straight away your gameplay is way different to say my games play cause I dont have the use of special talents. I would like to see someone, who has the time, to compare apples to apples, start with nothing, dont use special things that havent been earnt , dont spend money, dont colab with anyone. Also my biggest annoyances with this game, - is uptiering ( now tier 5 can see tier 7 ), - clan ships provided to you that are locked to clan battle only, thus in most cases never used, - missions daily special and combat campaigns that require only random and brawl ( brawl currently unavailable or inactive ) or clan ( currently inactive ) - most random matches wait times go beyond 5 mins. Sometimes end up 17 mins and I give up. - good ships like Schlieffen being nuked down to almost useless due to uptiering and lowering of things like range and damage per shell. Schlieffen for instance should be 25km base not 18km range, torpedoes should be 63 to 65 knots not 50 knots SUBS - still to powerfull, they need some serious rethinking or atleast every surface ship have a method of erasing homing lock with a cooldown of 1 min unlimited use CV - squadron limited to a wait time after previous one launched. Cant line drop up, click mouse, press F launch next wave. Whilst squadron still completing attack run. say a 2 min wait time between squadrons, in reality, CVs took around 45 to 60 mins to organise the next sortie to take off.
@gameover_4774 жыл бұрын
Personally as someone who has played the game on and off as a F2P, even when running camos and flags (I dont use special flags for grinding because of how few you're given, so for clan battles I equip them) it comes out to about 4k xp per match if everything goes well. So for me the game reaches a point where I get on, play till I get a win with the ship lines I'm grinding at the time, and then stop playing. By tier 6-7 it starts feeling depressing to open up the upgrades window and see how many games are needed to progress. I will say though that warships does keep me playing more than world of tanks, getting shot by invisible players and having to deal with premium ammo, sixth sense, and arty.
@booketoiles16004 жыл бұрын
The only way I can keep up playing this gm as f2p is not to care about the progression. if I start being salty and obsessed with grinding I burn out in a week and leave the game for years
@wombat41914 жыл бұрын
I also, as a f2p, felt a bit hopeless when getting to the next ship started to feel like a neverending task. Then I realized that getting to T10 is not the main price or ultimate destination, but just an outcome of enjoying the ship I am playing. So now I mostly enjoy my T7's, 8's and 9's without any worry about when I have enough xp to get the next one. Of course I'm excited about getting a new ship, and I'm really excited about soon getting Republique, but I feel very content and enjoy playing my Alsace for the sake of playing it, not for the sake of getting Repu. One thing that is not nice is grinding the modules. Alsace was a horrid ship with 22 second rudder and 18 km range, and at T9 they cost a ton of XP. I usually save my special flags to get through modules faster. Using fxp is tempting, but I'm saving for fxp premium right now.
@luisd1574 жыл бұрын
Its better then world of tanks imo
@Zenn3k4 жыл бұрын
While a new player will buy premium ships, I find it hard to believe they'd buy flags and containers, most people see these as a total waste of money from the onset. Do it without ANY flags except what you earn along the way...should take you about 150 games or so, and its annoyingly brutal and long to do. I know I'm done wanting to play most ships after about 2-3 games personally, especially if the ship just sucks, which MANY of the tech tree ships do. Also, only spend earned credits...good luck with affording a T8-T9 and T10 ship with only earned credits in a short time frame.
@germandalek96873 жыл бұрын
Which crates contain are the best to buy when you want to try something similar
@bcfreeman85894 жыл бұрын
Started this game about 6 months ago and ,yes, I have spent money on the game. Bought several premiums, mostly ships that have historical significance to me. I am retired Navy and I work in Las Vegas at a casino, make pretty good money and except for 2 car payments, am debt free. Got tired of throwing my money away in slot machines, so I figured that putting money into this game wasn't quite as bad because I was, at least, getting some value and getting to go to battle in some of my "boyhood dream ships". Love playing the Bismarck and Tirpitz. My other favorite is the North Carolina since I was born there and have visited it. Also bought the Arizona because I have been to the memorial in Pearl Harbor. Eerie place... My first ship in the real Navy was the USS Mullinnix DD 944, a Forrest Sherman class destroyer commissioned the same year I was born, 1958. I was GMG and worked on the 5 inch gun mounts and really loved it. After that, I commissioned the USS Scott DDG-995 as a GMM as well as the USS Vincennes CG-49. Anyway, I spend hours playing the game and watch tons of videos on KZbin to improve my understanding of the game. Still a below average player, but i am getting better. Play mostly BB's and CA's. Have 2 15 point commanders so far, and am trying to get them to 19. Like doing the campaigns and like the asymetrical battles, not really into this new theme they are pushing right now. So, yeah, I have money to spend and don't mind spending it on something I really like a lot!!
@davesmith98444 жыл бұрын
I don't mind noobs at higher tiers, they are a great farming source if they're on the enemy team, and if they're on mine, well they leave more kills for me :)
@Alex-hy9cw4 жыл бұрын
The biggest struggle (which I am currently experiencing as I could get izumo, Halland upgrades & thunderer upgrades) is credits. Exp doesn't even need flags , you'll always have enough exp but never enough credits, the rate of credits is much slower.
@orgerix4 жыл бұрын
yup. Its actually a conscious design. They increase xp rate much more than credit rate so you end up with a deficit, and get the temptation to spend even more to buy stuff you "deserve" because you unlocked them.
@AiDecc2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate very VERY much that you have spent your presious time and resources, to prove those cocky players who shame their own parents with their behavior (referring to how they treated you in the comments, eg. Kaz), that they are not as smart and wise as they thought. I have been treated similarly many, many times. Thank you boss :)
@cades930414 жыл бұрын
What new player has 22 of one of the best camos
@IYF_Productions_SL4 жыл бұрын
All you had to do was play the game in the 2018 Lunar New Year's celebration and they gave them away. Pretty easy actually. I still have 45 of them myself in inventory. Play the game and WG gives things like that out all the time every month.
@cades930414 жыл бұрын
@@IYF_Productions_SL so you are saying a new player that played in 2018?
@IYF_Productions_SL4 жыл бұрын
@@cades93041 no just saying when they came out since everyone seems all butthurt they don't have them. There are many decent camo's out that everyone has access too. The frosty fir tree and new year st reamer camo's are good. You all seem to be hung on "he's got special camo" well if y'all would play the game you'd get some of those as well.
@awalllen2124 жыл бұрын
He says multiple times throughout the video that his original claim was that a player with HIS resources could grind a ship in 20 games he says multiple times as well that a newer player would probably take about twice as long even with dropping 80 bucks for premium containers which come with camos and signals. And that a newer player who doesn't spend money would take about as long as its always taken. His point is that he doesn't like how quickly you can speed up a grind for money.
@ringowunderlich22414 жыл бұрын
From Tier 1 to Tier 9 in 0(zero) battles. Download, install and enter the game, purchase an Alaska, Georgia or whatever T9 you like for about 65 bucks. Et voila. ;)
@intuii4 жыл бұрын
Guess that is how you find t8 prems with 250 games played and a 40% wr
@rongyangyi45004 жыл бұрын
Buy a shit ton of Dunkirk containers which gives free xp/elite commander xp/coal, buy enough to get the free xp or coal for a t10 with zero battles < 3
@jayvee85024 жыл бұрын
Wow. It took him 22 games while i was like 1k games to get to Montana.
@cptkilimanjaro37384 жыл бұрын
When I started playing last June, it took me probably 200 games and 6 months to get GK, and then I learned all the advanced mechanics for the game. I did, however, make a free alt account and got up to Benson in about 15-20 games, but I knew what I was doing.
@Annatar52894 жыл бұрын
i heard your original comment, read the replies, and got ready to grab some popcorn. well done man, honestly didnt think you would pull it of... nicely done :P
@Mr.MouseMaster Жыл бұрын
I was not able to find any container bundle containing the booster flags or any other benefits to XP.
@DaManBearPig4 жыл бұрын
Got to the MvR in 42 battles Granted I’m an above average player with lots of camos and flags. But the mere fact that I can be in command of a weapon system as influential and game deciding as a MvR in as little as 42 battles is pretty alarming...
@Trilobiteer4 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, if a player gets to tier 7 in 6 matches or tier 10 in ~20 matches then they probably deserve to be there because goddamn, they must know what they're doing to get that amount of exp consistently. Meanwhile, in the land of actual players I feel most of us will take hundreds of games, maybe even up to a thousand to get to tier 10 because we grind multiple lines, have bad games, don't use all the flags and camos ever, probably didn't immediately (if ever) buy premium and have to grind out the credits as well as our captains. Oh, and most of us don't deal 2-3 times our ship health in damage every game on a class we believe ourselves to be average at, that's actually kinda insane and goes to show how not-average a player you are haha :P Personally I would say the "blowout" matches at tier 10 are probably more because all it takes is for 1 or 2 ships to be caught out in bad positions and get sunk early (which will happen quickly, this is tier 10 after all) for one side to achieve a numbers advantage resulting in significant positional and firepower advantages thus leading to a rapid loss of critical mass for one team leaving them open to yet more and more punishment as they are further outnumbered and unable to take on multiple ships at once. This is somewhat true of all tiers but I feel gets punished easier and quicker at tier 10 simply because you are talking about the most powerful ships being driven by the most capable players. Also as a quick sidenote, I think everyone can agree that the difference between a basic tech tree tier 10 ship with an average 10 point captain driven by someone who is fairly decent at the game but only occasionally plays top tier and a min-maxed tier 10 premium resource ship with a premium resource captain piloted by someone who only ever plays tier 10 every night every day is huge. Anyway, credit to you for showing us it can be done, that's an incredible achievement regardless of how you did it :)
@landochabod74 жыл бұрын
I think there's something else going on at T10 as well. At low-mid tiers people are more carefree, they often charge/yolo and have fun, occasionally getting good results (Double Strikes, torpedo runs, etc.) as well. At high tiers, possibly due to the much harsher economy for those who die early, people often play too conservatively, holding back even when the game is completely lost. Doing so, they let the team get cornered and sunk even more efficiently. They don't counterattack, don't go for what could be trades, instead they just sit in a corner and wait for the end. I've had a game today (Hipper, bottom tier) where I had a friendly NC sitting 22 km away from the nearest enemy. He wasn't afk and he wasn't trying to catch up: the enemies were pushing and he was running away. Same with a Pommern (a great brawler): I mean what's the purpose? I think some players have no idea about the economy of the game (they don't check the 4th result page) and think they get a bonus, or lower maintenance costs, for saving their ship. And keep in mind, many of these players were on too high health to get a Dreadnought.
@jtc1208804 жыл бұрын
I mean anyone who doubted I think has never really had a supply of the good signals, because yeah. I've ground 3 t10 lines in the last two mohths playing "casually" - few games a day, running Frosty Fir and using all the economic signals. Flambass did a challenge like this as well, I think he did it twice and played like 27 in one round and 25 in the second or something like that.
@IYF_Productions_SL4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that get's it!
@peterSobieraj3 жыл бұрын
Is there a differenc if I play "Co-Op Battle", "Random Battle" or "Ranked Battle" ?
@EladdNZZ3 жыл бұрын
Got here today after searching 'How long for Tier X grind' out of curiosity on what it takes for the average player. I have never purchased flag crates for boosters. I did buy Premium 1year when it was half price. For the most part I just play once or twice a day (FP) and only have 20 T10 ships for 9383 battles. If you average that out, its about 470 battles per T10. I did find the joy of flag stacking when I went from T9 to T10 Shima but still I think it took me about 10 - 20 battles. That said, I enjoyed watching this video. It shows, if your happy to throw money around you can get there faster - but you still need to know how to play.
@karlosantiago59023 жыл бұрын
i just recently grinded the french BB line in 2 weeks, i thought that was fast. but wow 22 games? thats insane!
@gamerdrache8741 Жыл бұрын
How?
@joshcalloway24684 жыл бұрын
What was the name of this pack? Can’t find it in the store. I could use these flags.
@skincookiez75764 жыл бұрын
So you mentioned on Furutaka you splurged for the better guns. What do you upgrade on each ship? Do you just do research and not buy anything for the ships and just buy the next ship ASAP? No Upgrades or mods?
@Lucarionape4 жыл бұрын
So watching this video, does anyone have any advice for grinding UK and GER ships without spending money on the game since I need to focus money IRK right now? I’m T5 Ger BB, T6 UK DD,CA,CV,BB and T7 CL and I’m burning out. There’s no one I can division with, the only way I can get Premium is by completing operations and I am unsure of how many special flags I have (with next to no camouflage) I’m just so tired and I’ve been around since the closed Beta. Sorry, I’m just ranting now but I’m really burning out.
@johnvaltakis33474 жыл бұрын
All these salty comments still are so fun to read. I've played this game on and off for 4 years now and while 20 battles is a pretty outrageous number, Sealord's point still stands. I have grinded many lines to t8 or t9 and just got bored because the crappy players in high tier games caused so many battles to be complete blowouts, whether it was my team or the enemy. Like it or not people, this game is filled with potatoes that pay to win or are bored, just like the fools that pay $20 every season of COD MW for the battlepass. So what if normal people don't have 100 signal flags or premium camoes. If you are new and buy a t8 or t9 premium, you can earn yourself lots of credits, and fail your way up to t10 in a relatively low number of games these days. Thanks for the thumbs down, and peace out.
@benrowan11434 жыл бұрын
I don't see the kreigsmarine bundle/container. Did it get removed?
@Patrick-so6we3 жыл бұрын
Hey ;) nice Video. Where do you get this camouflage from? Are there alternatives?
@joeydehondt29374 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid dude! Got my first and second tier x with your technique!!
@krin94374 жыл бұрын
People are really still upset about this? Who cares that you spent money? All you said was that you could grind from T1 to T10 in 20 games, and that’s exactly what you did. Good shit man, don’t let the haters say otherwise.
@dzello4 жыл бұрын
That's not the problem. The problem is he basically pushes the idea that people actually pay 100000$ to do this and get tier X and that this is one of the reasons tier X is a mess when, in reality, this.... Basically doesn't happen (way too expensive) and credits is the bottleneck to climbing, not XP. So people are rightfully upset.
@sealordmountbatten4 жыл бұрын
dzello this didn’t cost $1000000000 dollars, it cost $80. Which is an amount that a decent bit of new players WILL throw at the game, just look at all the T9 premium ship bundles that are up for sale.
@dzello4 жыл бұрын
@@sealordmountbatten Nope, 80$ is NOT an amount that a newcomer will put in the game and thus is completely irrelevant. People will spend money in a game they believe they will spend a lot of time on which means they don't spend at the BEGINNING of the game because they need to reall figure out if it's worth it. (and even then, they don't tend to spend 80$ in consumables, btw, they'd spend it on something longer lasting if it's 80$) Then, they buy T9 premiums. Add to this the fact CREDITS limit, NOT experience and it's basically irrelevant. To make it simple: being able to spend money to get to tier X fast does NOT decrease the average time people need from tier 1 to tier 10 the first time. Rather, it decreases the time for people who tend to ALREADY have a tier X because they have already decided to sink time in this game.
@hailitalia864 жыл бұрын
@@dzello You must be a joy to hang with... Snobby sod. Now, had a friend who, against my advice, did exactly this. Bought some boosters and a Tirpitz as well to climb fast and play with us at high tier. Not everyone who plays this is a broke dueche in their moms basement. Guy easily makes close to 6 figures so the 180ish he dropped was piss away money for him. Luckily he is playing some mid tier stuff with me to learn fundamentals as his first couple high tier matches in German BBs were a mess.
@conandude764 жыл бұрын
NO. That's not what he said. He said new players are getting a t10 in 20-40 matches and that's why there are so many blowouts at t10. That's literally exactly what he said. Which is just flat out untrue. New players CAN'T get a 10 in that many matches, they don't even get half the game open to them till 60 matches in. They also don't have unlimited credits, and credits are a huge limiting factor in getting your first few trees to t10. I've gotten 9 done now, and still have credit issues sometimes. Yes, a unicum that's made a LIVING playing the game 8 hours or more per day for the past couple years can do that. To compare that, on ANY level, to new / average players is completely absurd. The increased blowout problem (Which is happening on all tiers btw, not just t8-10) is the game's matchmaking not actually matching people by skill, and the fact the game has an EXTREMELY long intro period that doesn't actually teach you how to play AT ALL. Normally that wouldn't be that big of a deal, people will learn or they wont, that's fine. Until you start selling premium ships to those people too. Someone that's never owned a t8 buys a tirp, what do you do? Match them against t6's and t7's until they learn?? That wouldn't be toxic to the people at t6 or 7 or anything. The intelligent way to solve it would be to require you to already own a researchable ship of the same tier before allowing you to BUY one... then implement an MM that puts priority on skill matching the teams.
@riftwake1784 жыл бұрын
I saw you in one of my random battles! Woot. Nice job. I have been trying to give Wargaming some cash here or there to support the game since I've played 2300 battles or so and I've never really "paid" anything despite playing since Closed Beta. I'd love to try something like this with birthday money or something. Just drop 80 bucks and go nuts with all maxed flags etc. Your flag stash makes me jelly. o7 sir.
@stevepeterson60704 жыл бұрын
I did the math, it takes myself (between noob and average = below average) 85 games on average to get to tier 10. When I was full-on noob that number is closer to 125 games. So really the current game would take about 300 games to get the first 3 tier 10 ships. In my opinion that's WAY too long. But I also think 20 games is WAY too short for veterans. I think what we need to do is cut the experience in half, but the veterans should have to gain 10x exp to get ships.
@sadiqshaik40644 жыл бұрын
But how to grind credits for all those modules and ships
@albusvoltavern45004 жыл бұрын
Welp, I know what I’m doing tomarrow
@Faabiyen4 жыл бұрын
Trying to decide if that is a typo or hinting that you want a Zao. Tommaorrow? Taomorrow?
@Vvoornth4 жыл бұрын
There's one major problem with this. Camos and Sigs eventually run out and I do not have the financial resources to be able to buy containers. Highest tier ship atm is Yorck, which I researched and bought last night at T7. I have run out of special sigs on the NA server and am low on them on EU. Plus even if I had them I doubt if I could end a battle with 12-16k free XP the way you and Flambass did
@owenilagan1444 жыл бұрын
I unlocked the Zao about a year or more ago when you could only put a few flags on your ship. It probably took me a month playing every day to get from tier 1 to 10 using only free consumables and premium time. They should only allow the unlimited flag stacking to tech tree ships after you've unlocked the last ship in the line.
@NEW_Stuff_for_RVs3 жыл бұрын
Good Video, and yes if your willing to spend money, one can advance faster, but it's fun to just grind it out, and watch video's like yours and others. I find it harder at the lower tiers because without flags and so on the point's add up real slow. I have a challenge for anyone who has the time. See how long it would without any special items other than a stock capt, and only the flags and camo you win in game, to grind the American DD line from tier 3 to 10. I am trying myself, and it's not easy. I'll let you know how I make out, Thanks and keep the videos coming.
@jonathanhacker82254 жыл бұрын
Can you buy the spring camo?
@dinozilic79184 жыл бұрын
Would asymmetrical battles be a good xp grind???
@Amenhir14 жыл бұрын
I feel like a time-lapse of these 22 battles with results screens would have made for a better video. "I rebuilt the engine in my car in 3 hours. Here's a video of me pruning my hedges."
@sealordmountbatten4 жыл бұрын
My dude, my hard drive doesn’t have enough space for 10 hours of 4K 60fps footage lol. That’s about 2TBs of space. Plus then trying to edit 10 hours of footage, I can hear ShotCut imploding just from mentioning that.
@Amenhir14 жыл бұрын
@@sealordmountbatten I said it would make for a better video, not that you HAD to do it. If you're rendering 4k vid on the reg you should probably invest in more storage space. Though I'm not sure that's totally necessary for WoWS replays. Furthermore, you probably shouldn't assert that it's not clickbait and then tell the viewers to look up the proof. You're the one making the assertion, the burden of proof lies with you. Have a nice day! :)
@sealordmountbatten4 жыл бұрын
@@Amenhir1 I don't care how much space you have, the most beefy of beefy rigs will struggle to edit 10hrs of raw 4K 60fps footage, its not practical to do. Burden of proof does lie with me and I provide it with my stats, I state that in the video, stats aren't hidden or manipulated and does not cost anything for viewers to look up.
@Amenhir14 жыл бұрын
@@sealordmountbatten I don't know why you're so upset. I provided constructive criticism. Take it or not, I really don't care.
@jacobarnett45564 жыл бұрын
I started playing this game in Dec 2019. I have yet to reach t10 in any line of ships. 1. because I am enjoying the game and trying not to burn out on it but 2. because earning the silver takes more time then earning the XP to research the ship. My question is how much silver did it cost you to purchase the ships and upgrades to get to t10 and did you use previous earned silver in this video or did you use the silver you earned like you did with FXP?
@patrickwatters15674 жыл бұрын
Well done and a great video as normal 👍👍
@MrFireSpy4 жыл бұрын
As others have noted, The XP isn't the issue, it's the credits. Most of the time you've unlocked the next tier ship, especially tiers 9 and 10, but you don't have the money to actually buy it..
@PowerslideSWE4 жыл бұрын
Good going. Only possible with the spring sky camo tho. A camo which I have yet to see in my inventory despite being a 5 year veteran in this game. How does one obtain that one?
@IYF_Productions_SL4 жыл бұрын
If your a 5 year veteran you had many opportunities to get it during the 2018 Lunar New Year's Celebration. It's still drops from some boxes on occasion.
@PowerslideSWE4 жыл бұрын
@@IYF_Productions_SL Good to know, thank you. As it turned out I have 1 of those camos :D
@IYF_Productions_SL4 жыл бұрын
@@PowerslideSWE you're very welcome.
@mattrix364 жыл бұрын
t6 bayern to t7 GN took me 4 games random running every flag going....i believe him .definately possible. i like your channel man nice cheers from london uk.
@darynauna2174 жыл бұрын
I played, from tier 1 to tier 10 with no flags, got my first tier 10, 6 MONTHS LATER, also found a friend on WoWs who taught me how to play wows correctly, so i have him to thank for why i still play and somewhat enjoy the game
@FluffyAdmiral4 жыл бұрын
How many games it will take you when you start new account and without paying WG a dime?
@dudeonyoutube4 жыл бұрын
>500
@sealordmountbatten4 жыл бұрын
Eh about 300 iirc from my US BB grind, took me about a month of playing to get to the Montana
@j_ro4 жыл бұрын
im just sat here thinking damn i want those special signals! i used mine up fast once we were allowed to mount all of them. you might have sold a ton of Kriegsmarine containers for WOWS. hope you can get a slice!
@vahngaming7107 Жыл бұрын
you cant do this now right coz u cant stack econ anymore.
@Ultrakillerism4 жыл бұрын
That's actually impressive, when I grinded the Japanese BB line (with premium account ofc) it took me 34 games to go just from tier 8 to 9, and I have nearly aimbot aiming skills :'(
@piervisser31213 жыл бұрын
I am seeing and hearing this and I can only think that it's just sick - mind you, I believe you, but I just see that I'm doing something horribly wrong, I get 3-600 XP (unmodded) on my Tier IV German Battleship... I only wish I knew what. Nice vid though!
@Amethysticek_YT10 ай бұрын
how to get kriegsmarine containers?
@Mitch-BladeCaptain2 жыл бұрын
In October of 2022, I wonder if this can still be done. 🙂
@suihkurunkkari4 жыл бұрын
After 2153 games I still don't have a tier 10 and people do it in 22 games like no biggie. Wow. :D Anywhoo, nice entertaining videos you do so have a sub and a like.
@WaffleBlitz4 жыл бұрын
Well done .wow.
@johngibson37704 жыл бұрын
flambass did this in 24 games without buying any containers, using an of the camos and signals that a brand new player would not have and researched ALL components on all ships. When i first started it took me approx 240 battles for my first Tier X. It's just too easy now.
@conandude764 жыл бұрын
He also has 10's of thousands of matches played. That makes a bigger defference than signals and camos. He also didn't have to farm credits, he had them already. Just like sealord here did.
@kerttamm4 жыл бұрын
That is not really a "new player who is willing to spend" strategy though now? I mean it takes some 10 or 12 games to even get access to a captain and to be able to mount modules on a ship.
@anneonyme2134 жыл бұрын
Well done! Wouldn't have bet on it but now I just feel silly for not rushing to get the Moskva ealier this year.
@Logan-dk8of4 жыл бұрын
i never used flags before so i didnt know you could stack them, that is op. also being able to get 70k free xp from $80 in containers which also give you the ability to get 12k xp/free xp per game is strait up p2w. i imagine getting to t10 on f2p account could be kind of fast still, but not nearly as fast as you have to go earn all of those flags or pay the price in silver
@TRDTYukiTV4 жыл бұрын
I think if anything this should highlight how difficult it is for a new player without access to these tools to level and grind this game and how it's hurting wargaming bringing in new players by forcing them to spend money to achieve this, even for old players this can be difficult because they spent all their credits on shiney new tier X Leveling without all these tools hurts, it's a painful grind and most people who are new get turned off and leave around tier 6 to 8 because it's to much But let's face it, wg don't watch KZbin or read our comments because it's not in their spreadsheet
@calebshonk58384 жыл бұрын
Sure, if you have plenty of money and flags to throw at the problem. In most cases, that's the only way you can get to T10. But most of us don't have that luxury. I sure don't. Try doing it without a premium account, high-level flags or fancy camouflages. I've been playing for two years now and I'm stuck at T8 because I won't throw money at the game for premium play and doubloons. Most random games at T7 and T8, I struggle to even make a profit in credits.
@fernandicolimonta4 жыл бұрын
WOW amazing you should make video series calling it from I to X ASAP
@KayaYautja4 жыл бұрын
How do you get so many camos?
@tomsbasement48844 жыл бұрын
How many credits did you make along the way? XP is not the only factor in limiting levelling.
@matthewhughes99474 жыл бұрын
To put this all in perspective when the game first released I got it and bee lined straight for the midway (Sorry was pre rework carrier scum) on a standard account with premium from halfway through tier 8 onwards. This was with almost no signal flags except those gained on the way. This was with the old US aircraft carriers tier 4 to 9 with 30 games to tier 4 so im using wargaming stats for me so they are accurate as I haven't and now cant go back to play them. It took me 569 games to reach tier 10 and now some people can do it in 22. To be fair this run by mountbatten cost $80 and his premium and pre existing equipment so is incredibly unrepresentative of most players. But the difference of first run to one of your last tech tree grinds is mad
@zarlev90834 жыл бұрын
excuse me what about the creedit gain. is it also boosted to oblivion?
@marcofava4 жыл бұрын
With the Camos and Flags yes it'd help you along massively
@sealordmountbatten4 жыл бұрын
You get a hefty boost but not like 1mil a game boost
@Dysputant4 жыл бұрын
Well most people dont have ALL flags. Special flags and camo give ridiculous bonuses. But after 9.8 ... i will get like 40 gift containers , and 24 supercont from 1 wins.... I expect to get around 9999 Ocean soul camos. XD
@robertbassham85144 жыл бұрын
I don't know. I played about 3000 games and could never earn enough xp to get a tier 8 ship. Seemed I had about 70,000 xp and needed 140, 000 to buy the ship or something like that and the total just never went up. I stopped playing when they required the Game Center to play.
@VUO4E4 жыл бұрын
0:38 : "where did this all begin?" Answer : on Flambass' channel. He did the exact same thing several months ago. 2 people, 1 and the same theory, identical approach, both wrong.
@JustRedBed Жыл бұрын
How I’ve played like 150 matches and I’m only at their 6
@JustRedBed Жыл бұрын
Scratch that 250
@tejoadi43494 жыл бұрын
So you have to be unicum (avg 100k dmg) on all those 22 match with all the economy amd special flags...
@aravinthmohan70734 жыл бұрын
You would need unicum results possibly, but also Sealord isn’t a unicum, he is average in cruises and just a bit over average overall
@tejoadi43494 жыл бұрын
@@aravinthmohan7073 getting easy farm on enemy team is also a posibility
@aravinthmohan70734 жыл бұрын
tejo adi or it’s also a possibility to accept what he did and stop trying to justify why you are unable to replicate...
@tejoadi43494 жыл бұрын
@@aravinthmohan7073 lol what? why are you mad all of the sudden? you know that his server region game has many potato players easy to farm.
@aravinthmohan70734 жыл бұрын
tejo adi as an officer of his clan I would be in the same region, and I’m not mad And I think it has less to do with easy potato’s to farm, and u being the one farmed so it doesn’t seem that way to you
@mikutoyuu87233 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that what you say is true as I got the same amount of rewards after mounting all the flags on my Akizuki
@pop_LMP4 жыл бұрын
Idk how to feel about this. I have 4000+ games played, mostly at T8 and up. Yet I’m a f2p. It took me 400 hours just to get Iowa. My first teir 9. Another and got Shima at about 700ish hours. Now at 1400 hours and I have finally researched my 5th T10 ship unlocking research bureau. I’ve only bought premium time from tax return and birthday, along with a few ships. Bottom line: I think it’s absurd to spend more than $20 on a game that you already own. So to spend $80 just to get to T10 is retarded.
@magnanimousmargrave4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, well, that may be for an average player but suppose we have a newbie who doesn't realize that random battles are probably easier to play than coop battles (because you have less of people shooting, torping, and ramming you)? How long would it take for co-op battles? I will attempt to answer that though I am a below average player thanks to loss of sensation in left fingers. I will start a new account today and play 5 battles a day with no financial investment to see how long it takes. You can consider my results a pretty reliable "floor" on the matches for Tier 10. 1st day tier 2 2178 XP to tier 3 2,254,000 credits. Using Dresden.
@magnanimousmargrave4 жыл бұрын
Oops yes I now have access to flags after 5 battles.
@magnanimousmargrave4 жыл бұрын
OK 6 more battles. Now 11 total. I got to the Kolberg and went into battles finding a lot of cruisers opposing with improbable numbers of torps, mostly Russian. I now have reached container and signals and commander level and even freeXP level. The grind to level 4 looks daunting.
@captainmorgan90664 жыл бұрын
When I first saw thumbnail I thought he wanted to talk about state of the game at Tier 10 with 22 battles as an example, by looking at length of the video I understood that it won’t be with 22 battles being example, when I saw title I understood everything. I think “To Tier X in 22 Battles” would be a bit more suitable title on thumbnail
@DaManBearPig4 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s pretty self explanatory. Why would he make a video about a random ass number of battles at T10.
@haochendai62174 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely possible, especially with the soviet bb line, vladi took me a while, but i think i only spent 3 or 4 matches from Soyuz to Kremlin. One shooting t10 cas really help
@KingKatRider4 жыл бұрын
I luv it when somebody walks the talk! People now a days don't realize that what they see as impossible is not impossible to somebody else.
@pop_LMP4 жыл бұрын
Spending $80 to get to T10 is absurd to begin with
@renameduser_1094 жыл бұрын
@Sealord. I think you should regrind Russian light cruiser again.(just a challenge) because they were hard to play. Lack consumable,torps,AA, sometimes concealment. I would like to know how many game it would take
@eamon8214 жыл бұрын
I've been playing since it was first released to the general public. Granted I've played very irregularly since 2016 but I only have a tier 8 Mogami that I got in 2016. I really need to play more
@flotarbox13302 жыл бұрын
Should I feel bad now that it took me 500 games for the same grind?
@SpeedyCM4 жыл бұрын
So did you start with a 1 skill point captain like a new starter would?
@aravinthmohan70734 жыл бұрын
He did he never played that line before
@SpeedyCM4 жыл бұрын
He never played ijn cruisers before doesn't mean he didn't respec one of his ijn 19 point BB or DD captains.
@sealordmountbatten4 жыл бұрын
That wasn’t the point of the video, it was just to prove to those that said I couldn’t grind to TX in 20 battles that I could. But to answer your question, I used a new commander on T1-7 and then moved my 12pt Azuma commander over for T8-9
@bismarckottovon18024 жыл бұрын
From the point of view of a person who had never a penny in this game, 22 games can only get me to T4. Using the Brits BB as an example, I used nearly a year to get to the Conq and I even started at Orion. Sure I played only a few matches (no more than five) per day and from the Monarach to Lion and Lion to Conq I did used a lot of FXP(80k for 8 to 9 and 110k from 9 to 10).I seldom had premium account and I had just 2 premium. However I'd been in the game for more than 3 years. Sure if you are an old/rich player you can do that but for me, nah. First I don't have access to such great amount of camos/signal, so do premium account, which would lead to some credit/Fxp problems as far as I can remember, I'd never make profit since T8. The last problem is the captain, correct me if you started out from a Lv1 captain cus from the start I think you are using a 19pt cap, which could bought you huge advantages compared to your teammates who may just running 7pt cap and don't even know about captain skills/cap build.
@aravinthmohan70734 жыл бұрын
He has never played Japanese cruisers before so no it’s a new captain