Hellish Near-Death Experiences

What are Hellish Near-Death Experiences? How common are they and what do they reveal, if anything, about the afterlife. Dr. Steve Miller is leading researcher on near-death experiences. While he has been on my show multiple times, this is the first time we have discussed distressing NDEs. We hope this is both challenging and helpful.
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[@zitacameron400]

My brother went through this distressing near death experience… about 30 years ago, it was horrifying, he went down a spiralling tunnel to what he described as hell. My Christian sister and husband were praying as his body was seemingly dying, he miraculously came back and converted to a born again Christian immediately and serves God zealously.

[@stevemiller6368]

Thanks for sharing! According to Bush, the typical response to hellish experiences repentance.

[@evangelesong6319]

Have you been born again? What do you make of your brothers experience?

[@catherineb2463]

He will find the Catholic Church soon

[@dmm6341]

​@@catherineb2463sigh

[@Armandrea]

@@catherineb2463have you repented of your sins and confessed Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? You must believe that He died and rose again so that you would have everlasting life. No one comes to the Father but by Jesus Christ. Being a part of a certain church or sect of Christianity is not enough. You must make an affirmative statement of your belief in Jesus and believe in your heart that He is the Lord of your life.

[@JE4-1]

I've had an NDE, and it changed everything for me.If it helps to anyone, you are immortal and God is real, I was skeptic until something happened to me, I'm a 50 years old man who has gone through unimaginable pain after losing everything I loved, my whole family lost. You are loved in such magnitude that is impossible to describe with words, only few go through these experiences but it will change you completely, be kind, be grateful, don't lie, gift a smile or a simple glass of water to someone in need, everything we think, speak or act affects the whole universe, be blessed because someday you will understand these words.

[@chris4321das]

But part from Christ, you will go to Hell.

[@TruthAboveAll08]

Friend, I'm thankful that you've received such a blessed gift. Your losses are beyond most of our understanding, and truly on a par with Job. We ARE eternal beings, God created us to be with Him throughout eternity. You do not mention salvation and Jesus Christ, so I'm hoping that you don't think your kind acts and good deeds will secure your eternity. Jesus says you MUST be born again. And only through Him will you go to the Father.

[@Batya-Grace]

@@chris4321das… You could have simply asked him if he saw Jesus, or if he believed in Jesus Christ, the son, instead of throwing out an accusatory comment such as you did. Yes, your comment presumes that he does not know Christ, but just because he spoke about God the father, and did not mention Jesus the son, does not mean he doesn’t know the son.

[@Jesussavedme]

Thank you for sharing ❤ iv lived in condemnation my whole life!! I know Jesus died for me but there's always that fear in the back of my mind that I could be thrown into hell😣 any advice I hate this 💔 I love Jesus and father God ❤ please help 🙏

[@LeoDowney-z7m]

Man that's hard to hear but at least you know there's the other side and at least you know the people that you've lost I really lost you're just waiting for you. Maybe my family were a very atheist took him to removing to walk on to the house that was not a demonic and that's kind of set me on 30 years of research and stuff trying to find the Truth of everything. Truth of everything . I've come close to death I don't remember having a near death experience but I do have some of the aspects of changed personality for the better.. Otherwise I'm just a 45-year-old white guy from the Chicago area. Maybe a little bit of a street rough ive done a little bit of time but I still am a loving kind friend and while I dont know you I've known everybody so many many people. And your heartbreak and sufferings. I'm sorry friend. I love you, you have no idea how many people that have still yet to meet you that will and your our guy. You rock. Your a great man to even come share this w us. And I hope the best for you. So much man. God bless you!!!

[@grace4peace]

After a Suicide attempt at the age of 18 I read the book of Dr. Moody: NDE and the book made me pray to ask God for His evidence and He answered me - I met Jesus and repented! That was 1977

[@TruthAboveAll08]

Praise God that your path led you straight to the cross of Jesus!

[@grace4peace]

@@TruthAboveAll08I was raised Roman Catholic but was not interested in religion. With 18 years I concluded: if there is no God, then suffering doesn’t make sense and there will be no righteousness applied to human kind, so I chose to end my live. Having survived my attempt I found on the book market the best selling book of moody, that made me wonder, if there is a God, what would happend to me if I had succeeded, so my journey with Jesus Christ started😉

[@jernisharichard5032]

That is wonderful 🥲

[@NarrelleChain]

Jesus is real, and so is a kind of hell, I am not religious, I started studying Anthroposophy and we are not here to just be materialists, we are here to learn to be like Jesus, compassionate, spiritual, we can gain the most in this incarnation to be of service to Humanity, to be kind, loving to every sentient being, every thing you do is being recorded and will be played back to you when you leave your body, you will get to experience the pain you caused every being in your life, if you think you are here to gain prestige and material success, think again, if you go through your life not caring about anyone but yourself and having no spiritual development you mybfriend are in trouble when you pass, this is why all the elite want to live forever because they have an inkling of what is instore for them, it's not about punishment 💙 it's about evolving towards what you were meant to be, a high being, and becoming one day like TheSolar Christ and resurrecting and going higher! You are not an animal, you are a divine being, thats what I have learnt, remember we are fallen, we have to work to overcome our evil!❤❤❤ 13:20

[@robinlee9272]

Amen 🙏. May all the glory be His, now and forever. Thank you for your comment and I pray you have peace all the days of your life.

[@isaacrinne6498]

When my grandma was in the hospital, as she was slowly passing away, my dad and brother were staying with her overnight. Both my dad and brother were suddenly woken up by my grandma moaning in pain and horror when she suddenly sat up and exclaimed, “the gates of hell have opened to me!” My dad tried to get her to become coherent again and, when she came out of it, grandma vehemently denied anything happening. However, she talked to my dad over the next few days almost nonstop about what it means to give your life to Jesus. She dedicated her life to Him, repented of her sins, and passed away a few days later. That experience almost certainly saved her soul (and woke my bother up to the reality of heaven and hell).

[@natalijaasbjornsen8827]

Thank you for sharing❤

[@stevemiller6368]

The typical response we see to such distressing experiences is repentance. Thanks for sharing!

[@annchovey2089]

What do you mean “almost”?

[@ahh-2-ahh]

​@@annchovey2089 EXACTLY!!!!

[@isaacrinne6498]

@@annchovey2089 I don’t know the heart of another and I wasn’t there to hear her ask for salvation, so I can’t claim to know without a doubt that she turned to him. From what I heard, it sounds like she did, but I can’t make that claim having not been there.

[@patrickfriesen1967]

A few years back my mother in-law passed from cancer. We were at her bed side as she took her last breath and my wife saw line ups of people waiting to greet her into heaven. These people greeting here were clapping and celebrating. It was so powerful to here her say "look at all these people there to greet you mom!"

[@robertdelisle7309]

Did your wife have a vision? How did she see this?

[@russellmiles2861]

I once heard my son speak to me - nothing unusual except I had identified his body a couple of weeks before. I have met a few clients who met loved ones after their death. This is quite normal. If such persists longer that 6 months it is best to see a physician as this is considered a symptom of complex grief. But sort term visual and auditory experiences are quite normal. I wouldn't worry.

[@stevemiller6368]

That's so encouraging! It's only after studying all the research on deathbed experiences that I'm seeing many of these as truly glimpses of the other side.

[@patrickfriesen1967]

@@robertdelisle7309 yes she had a vision

[@abetteryounow6484]

Angels come for the saved and not people!

[@ValerieGriner]

My sister is a bad alcoholic (at night) and she most definitely has demons. She drinks every night until she blacks out. When she is drunk, I hear her whispering to them and it's creepy. They sort of take her over every night. She has told me lately that she has been awakening on the wrong side of her bed (and other strange things going on in her bedroom). Even her DOG is freaked out and wakes her up frequently. I wonder if she's LITERALLY being attacked or levitates during the night. I love her very much, but she's really scary when under the influence. She also says she doesn't believe in the Bible. She was a science teacher all her life and she believes in things like evolution. I'm going to step up my prayers for her. She needs Jesus Christ in her life.

[@citizenoftheworld1032]

Try threatening her with eternal hell? Maybe that'll do it?

[@posthawk1393]

She definitely needs Jesus

[@favap1]

She needs deliverance.

[@Swimkid1]

@favap1:. She needs Jesus first - then deliverance.

[@blazebox71]

I'm going to pray for your sister and stand in agreement with you on this 🙏

[@PraiseYahforHeisHoly]

Interesting. Before I truly repented, I had a series of nightmares that all ended the same. I would wake up unable to move or speak and a large shadow would be standing before me. It didn't have a face but i could feel that it got some kind of prideful kick out of scaring me. I would start trying to yell for my husband and wake up to him shaking me telling me it was just a dream. This went on several times until I realized I needed to call Jesus, not my husband. A few more times I could not call Jesus very loud, and then once with complete confidence I called Jesus. I have not had that dream again. Its been close to a year and my walk with God has grown.

[@stevemiller6368]

Sounds like a true spiritual attack, relieved through the power of prayer and power of Jesus. We've gone through such a long period of the dominance of naturalism in our society that we're not quick to pick up on the possibility that in some cases our depression or nightmares or discouragement may be influenced by malevolent forces. Thanks for sharing!

[@brandinshaeffer8970]

Same here. It is terrifying to look into the face of evil and rebuke them in the name of Jesus, but His name is so powerful they're forced to leave!

[@grnpeepers2683]

Sleep paralysis.

[@kahnlives]

@@grnpeepers2683It not sleep paralysis, this sounds eerily similar to event that me and my sister both experienced at the same time as we were sleeping in separate bedrooms. Yikes!

[@MoonMoverGaming]

​@@grnpeepers2683Psychologists call this sleep paralysis, and they have no explanation for why it happens.

[@GTX1123]

44 years ago when I began reading the Gospels, I didn't need to have an NDE to be convinced. Conviction of my sin and hell as a reality for those who reject Christ became so real to me at times, it was unnerving. It was like looking into another realm because that's in fact what it was - God was allowing me to see it with the eyes of my spirit. Then at other times I would bury it because I didn't want to give up my sinful lifestyle. Thank you Jesus that His love and grace won me over.

[@stevemiller6368]

Yes, there's great power in the Word of God!

[@brettrobinson2901]

What about those that don't get time to be saved...or are taught through no fault of their own a different way of believing....

[@GTX1123]

@@brettrobinson2901 Per the first question, this is why Paul says "behold NOW is the accepted time, NOW is the day of salvation" which simply means DO NOT PUT IT OFF. While there was a season of grace on my life to repent, I had no guarantee I'd live long enough to receive Christ as savior and Lord. In my case thank God I did. Paul addresses the second question in Romans 2 (Amplified version); "When Gentiles, who do not have the Law [since it was given only to Jews], do instinctively the things the Law requires [guided only by their conscience], they are a law to themselves, though they do not have the Law. They show that the essential requirements of the Law are written in their hearts; and their conscience [their sense of right and wrong, their moral choices] bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or perhaps defending them on that day when, as my gospel proclaims, God will judge the secrets [all the hidden thoughts and concealed sins of men through Christ Jesus". In short, all of us are accountable to what we know not for what we didn't know. For those who lived in a remote part of the world and never heard the Gospel, God will deal with them justly.

[@PaulaHawkins-qq6wq]

You have access to the truth. Read the gospel of Christ. Bible, first 4 books of the New Testament. ​@@brettrobinson2901

[@Total_Body_Fitness_USA]

@@brettrobinson2901 Man claims the Bible is infallible, BUT yet it was written by fallible man. These same fallible man say that it was God inspired, so we as humans MUST take the word of another human and just believe it. Simple as that, right? Well, yes, if you are a sheep! If you want to follow something out of fear, then great! However, God in my opinion doesn't want to scare you into loving Him! This must come from the heart! So, I follow and love God because He is my Creator. Not out of fear He is going to send me to some eternal torment! There are truths in the Bible, but keep this in mind. MAN wrote it and it has been edited countless times by the church before the final version was released. We must ALL be careful of anything that ruthless man says! Why? Because men have motives! Blessings!

[@favap1]

At 18 I had a distressed NDE after using some illicit drugs, unknowingly. I was raised Catholic but not saved, I went through the black spiraling tunnel and KNEW it was taking me somewhere bad, frightened, and then realized I falling into hell. I screamed JESUS HELP ME, and stopped spiraling and finally came to consciousness, praying the Our Father over and over…it’s real guys.

[@i.ehrenfest349]

That sounds like a bad trip. Very common, when people do drugs.

[@ninja3687]

You must engage and believe in the sacraments for them to have an impact. If you just go because that's what you do it's useless.

[@stevemiller6368]

Thanks for sharing your horrifying experience so that we can all learn from it...good warning!

[@CHANGBINS_buttych33ck]

Praise God for His mercy and His grace you experienced to even know to cry out to Him!

[@mimisheean6648]

If you’re Catholic you’re most definitely saved. Be at peace.

[@ScottChesser-uv9ht]

Sean I appreciate you letting your guest speak at length answering questions and looking for natural breaks in conversation before asking another question. Great topic

[@stevemiller6368]

Isn't Sean a great interviewer?

[@nikkibenz7187]

Nice comment to bring up, alot of youtube channel owners do not let their guest talk, you're right that was very cool

[@kellyschroeder7437]

Interesting. Had to leave as it was hard to hear for certain scared parts of myself. Please pray for me for me 💞💙🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💙💞✝️🙌🏻✝️🙌🏻✝️🙌🏻

[@SharonWiseman-i7w]

I’m a retired nurse. I’ve had 1 patient with a good NDE who begged me to never let them resuscitate him again and bring him back from that beautiful place and one who told me he’d been to a bad dark place. Both of my parents could see people they loved calling them.

[@FishesAndLoaves997]

There is Life after Death it will be Wonderful for those who Love Jesus our Savior.❤Follow Jesus.❤

[@Msfeathers7]

I am an ICU nurse. The two that stand out, out of a few I encountered... One patient who worked in the hospital coded and was resuscitated. When he came back he told of Jesus and Heaven. He came back to work and carried his Bible and talked about Jesus all the time. Another was a woman who coded and when she came back she was frighten and wouldn't talk to us, she only wanted to talk to a priest. She encountered something bad.

[@TheFirefishe]

@@Msfeathers7 - This is why mental discipline is so important, so that we are, at all times, in control of our thoughts and reasoning. If societies-at-large taught this at an early age, non-physical-experiences would not be so traumatic, and probably just appear as a conscious phase-shift.

[@LetsTalkChristMinistries]

@@TheFirefishe Has nothing to do with a “phase shift” or mental discipline. Having both these things won’t prevent the inevitable when one dies apart from Christ.

[@patricksharp1063]

How grateful one should be to have been given a warning of what might lay in store if one does not heed the warning. A gift from Providence. The Light loves life.

[@singmysong1167]

​@user-kp9fz1jp9i...bologna

[@vectorx777]

​@user-kp9fz1jp9i You have no idea about what you are talking about. I was a Satanist and these creatures are very REAL and do eventually attack you physically not just spiritually. They affect everything in your physical world because your spiritual world has already been taken over. I went too deep, I saw too much. I saw who the devil really is and how much these things hate us and how truly evil they are. It is an ancient and otherworldly evil, an evil so hateful and old that it permeates your very soul and you begin to feel like you will eventually will be food for these things. I was too far gone, at least I thought and went to Hell. I will tell you right now cause I'm calling you out as you said you are an atheist. You have no idea what spirituality is and that we are indeed created as spiritual beings first. The spiritual realm is far more real than the physical and when you go to hell and feel these things coming for you. Call on God. Call on Jesus. That is what I did and I was pulled from hell and I knew in that moment that ONLY GOD can pull anyone from the jaws of hell. Only the creator of heaven and earth can reach down into the very depths unscathed and pull your weary soul fro the very devils that you serve. And yes you as an atheist serve the devil directly. My good sir I urge you to open your eyes and call on God right away because he is calling on you. God bless you.

[@RyanClark-gr9yb]

@user-kp9fz1jp9i There are no brain-waves, they're heart stopped beating, how could it have been a hallucination? If anything it should have been all black or something. Even atheists who had these experiences knew they were real, more real than reality as we know it.

[@hopehenley3002]

I have a friend who had a similar hellish experience during or following a drug overdose. I assumed his experience was merely a hallucination. However, at the time, he was no stranger to hallucinations due to his lifestyle. This experience was significant because it was life-changing and he was born again after that. Now I'm thinking that his experience was a NDE.

[@stevemiller6368]

Thanks for sharing this experience. If someone is on a hallucinagenic drug and almost dies, it's often difficult to decide if it was a drug-induced hallucination or a true NDE. Perhaps in your case, "by your fruit will you know them." If the person knew what a drug-induced hallucination was and was convinced that this experience was of a different nature, and there was lasting life change as a result....

[@dolorestate6599]

I have been to outer darkness, it was horrible! 2 people saw me dead for 2 hours, said i looked so peaceful, and I was screaming the whole time. Jesus Christ brought me back. That was almost 30 years years ago. Just live right, do right, do good, help people, etc. Thank you Jesus for bringing me back. I found out this is all true.

[@SleeplessinOC]

You could live right and all that but none of that matters if you die without having been saved apart from Jesus. Too many people thinking they will go to heaven just by being a good person on earth .

[@stevemiller6368]

Thanks for your testimony!

[@dukedixon3192]

My mother told the story again last week she has told me all my life. She was a nurse standing bedside to a man on his deathbed who was so weak we could barely lift a finger. As he was in the process of passing on he suddenly shot directly up in a sitting position screaming “get the snakes off my legs! Get the snakes off my legs!” Then fell back on the bed lifeless. Needless to say that’s a terrifying story to hear as a 4 year old, but also as a 40 year old. I’ve had my own death experience and I found it to be very peaceful.

[@BIBLE-UNBUTCHERED]

Two different destinations

[@robynmarler1951]

Wow.

[@alanda8109]

As a Christian, I spent7 years in night terrors, trying to battle demonic oppression by quoting Scripture and just believing that God would help me survive them, but not understanding how to stand against it myself. Finally, I was sent by my MD to a Christian counselor who helped me identify my victim mentality and lack of forgiveness toward someone. After praying through these issues, I had the next vivid "dream" in which I was empowered, through the blood of Jesus, to actually confront satan/demonic being, expose it and demand he/it leave! Since then, I have learned to grow in doing "spiritual warfare" (studying and applying Biblical principals, such as Ephesians 6), not just for myself, but for others. I never seek out any contact with evil, but when confronted, the victory is ours through Jesus Christ. Thank you, Steve, for writing this book! We love & pray for you and your family.

[@yvichenj333]

I would think that any NDE experience which leads a person into the arms of Jesus by allowing them to see hell would not be from Satan. On the other hand, one that leads a person to be complacent and to teach others a false idea of Jesus, that would have Satan's fingerprints all over it.

[@BIBLE-UNBUTCHERED]

Satan can't do both? People cry out to Jesus in desperation

[@stevemiller6368]

Surely a part of evaluating NDEs/DBEs is to evaluate the fruit, as Jesus recommended when determining the source of someone's teaching.

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

Agree.

[@saltyark7564]

I think you are right… I have had several NDE’s although they were similar, they were different and they seemed to have me experience or show me what I needed in order to grow a relationship with Christ (I don’t use specific name except Christ) and even though I was agnostic, when I flatlined and saw hell I’m way to stubborn to accept it as real, no matter how real it felt. My experiences were so… transcending, so blissful, O knew that could only come from a loving creator.

[@saltyark7564]

When I flatlined IF I saw Hell, I’m way to stubborn to accept it as real, no matter how real it felt**** my mistake for the typos in that line. My experiences were exactly what I needed to push me to accept the love of Christ, an all loving creator. I always try to be the best person I could be even before my NDE’s and that’s why I don’t think hell woulda kept me continue on the same path, instead I went even deeper to try to do even better.

[@bonniehill7573]

Not the same, but this reminds me of sleep paralysis experiences that many many people have. Usually demonic in nature. Has there been an episode on sleep paralysis that I missed? I’m in a sleep paralysis chat group where there are over 50,000 members. This is a huge phenomenon that I think needs to be talked about. Fortunately, I’ve seen people turn to Jesus, because Satan overplays his hand or Christians tell them the truth about what their experiencing, or they cry out to God for help- and He delivers them.

[@amyhenningsgard8618]

Always call on the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ.❤✝️📖

[@nathaIieJ]

how do i join the chat group

[@ambermiller5835]

Haunted Cosmos has a sleep paralysis episode

[@linamarie84]

Wow. I just asked about this yesterday. It's such a coincidence to see this here

[@tipsandtricks6071]

It has to be demonic. I have literally been attacked many times. I am grabbed, held down and my mouth is shut where I try to speak but I can't. One time, I literally felt a blow/hit to my back.

[@maybellinelover]

I had a NDE a few years ago. Unfortunately, it didn't last very long. I did get to feel the love of the Father. His love is deeper and wider than any mortal mind could contain. That was the thought I had when I was there. It was like I was soaking in an ocean of love. To some degree, I think that gave me strength at a time when I was very sick.

[@stevemiller6368]

What a blessed, timely experience!

[@lcraver4797]

Really appreciated this segment. Lost my wife (of 37 years) a little over 2 years ago and while I have had experiences such as the two of you describe nothing like that since her passing. While she was a new Christian she said some very harsh and judgemental things to our 3 children that all 3 (separately) have told me those comments have kept them from faith - so I pray daily for them while knowing I dare not pray for her. (Which sometimes give me grief with my VERY Catholic mother-in-law - though my wife had left Catholicism before we met) Surprisingly a lot of my prayers are aloud while out walking her dog but then while there's nothing wrong with praying "in the closet" it's turned out to be an extended time alone where I can pour out my heart to God without interruption. (It is emphatically NOT the only time I pray!) Most of all I understand even more than before how much we daily depend on grace despite our tears.

[@stevemiller6368]

Having lost my first wife to cancer about 13 years after our marriage, and seeing some of our children struggle with the "Why would God take my mom" questions, I can identify with some of your struggles and grief. I'm so glad that you've chosen to respond with prayer rather than anger. I have no doubt that our prayers for grieving children will reap great results over time. Praying for you this morning!

[@veev2561]

I have had several nesr death experiences in the military and beyond, God answered my prayers in a way I was grateful for

[@wasblindbutnowsee]

About 50 years ago, I thought I was about to die from a drug overdose . I tried to walk to a hospital, but eventually, I gave up and lay down behind a building to die. I thought a few personal family things , everything was getting dark as I said what was almost a quote I heard in some church . I said ," Forgive us, for we know not what we do." Many years later, I figured those words had saved me that time because I suddenly felt better and walked to the city park. Today, I do know Jesus, I do love Jesus, and I'm sure he spared my life many other times also. "Thank you, Jesus."

[@thenightwatchman1598]

kind of weird that so many spiritual channels seem reluctant to address the elephant in the living. good on you to actually discuss the dark side of the afterlife coin.

[@pauleckersley6132]

19 mins in he's talking about the movie, " ghost", n I remember seeing the dark creatures pulling people out of the physical world into nowhere. Well the way they were apprehended by the dark n then sucked at a continual acceleration in to another world, reminds need me of my experience with dying. Being sucked downward into outer darkness. Bless Jesus for showing me the opposite place at a later date, letting me know I won't see that dark place ever again. (There is a place where the streets shine with the Glory of the Lord).

[@CursedinDisguise]

Streets of gold fr

[@tpark4444]

My stepdad had the same experience while trying to recover from heart surgery. Those black clawed shadowy things had a hold on him, dragging him down to a dark place of red glowing first places and tons of screaming. He grasped onto his nurse’s arms, leaving deep scratches as he clung to her, begging to be saved. He told me the story, then later, denied it happened. He did start going back to church, but was attracted and attractive to many women. I wish he had taken that warning to heart, but he gorgot all about it, or at least tried to.

[@tpark4444]

My stepdad had the same experience while trying to recover from heart surgery. Those black clawed shadowy things had a hold on him, dragging him down to a dark place of red glowing firey places and tons of screaming. He grasped onto his nurse’s arms, leaving deep scratches as he clung to her, begging to be saved. He told me the story, then later, denied it happened. He did start going back to church, but was attracted and attractive to many women. I wish he had taken that warning to heart, but he gorgot all about it, or at least tried to.

[@PamelaHackett-d2u]

I know this is not quite the same thing, and I am a strong Christian, but I actually remember being born and afterwards for a very short while. A doctor came to take blood from me as my mother has a rare blood group and he took it from my heel. I screamed with the pain and remember my mother asking them not to do this. As I've had quite a few surgeries in my life I asked my mum if this experience was during one of them. She was very shocked and said no, you couldn't possibly renember that, you were new born! But i did. I believe my soul was with God before my birth, and I think somewhere He says He knew us before we were in our mother's Womb, so maybe thid an indication we will return to Him.

[@robynmarler1951]

That's so cool!

[@NautilusNews]

I believe you. I too remember when I was born. I also remember Jesus holding me in his hands and smiling down on me. He told me a couple things. I think he may have told me what I was too go do in the world. I don't engender exactly what he said. But then he told me it was time for me to meet my mother. I was so calm with him and then I opened my eyes for the first time in my mother's arms and she was looking at me and smiled and her first quits to me were "well hello". I'm 36 and still remember it well

[@galactickitty]

Omgosh, finally I come across others who recall their birth as well. I spoke to my Mom about this at age 5 but she never believed me. I remember coming out, being cold until I was wrapped up and just prior being with Jesus and him showing me images of my future life. I felt so loved & cherished. ❤

[@NautilusNews]

@galactickitty "loved and cherished". Me too

[@galactickitty]

@@NautilusNews - Omgosh, I was just thinking back to my experience when I saw the notification of your comment. I recall having a sense of urgency, excitement & anticipation to be born. I recall agreeing & liking what God told me what his purpose for me was but I don’t remember what it actually was. I just remember the feeling.

[@pdd60absorbed12]

After the most traumatic time of my life I had a dream I still recall though I have to grasp at its original impact. I dreamed being at a large arch-like entry to a cave. Lighting was very dim and sky cloudy dark gray. More than any audio visual emphasis was a feeling never close to reproducing in waking life. I felt so lost and disconnected from everything I'd ever known and a profound grief beyond any comparison. When I first tried to describe this dream to my wife, in an attempt to convey the despair all I could say was "I was so, so lost." Nothing scary, I was spared that, but think I'd tasted eternal separation from God. And rarely very rarely do I remember dreams. I was 49 then and now 67. So far that was the dream of my life, that utter lostness and grief never reproduced again praise God who's blessed forever.

[@jeffb6979]

I read his book, Death Bed Experiences and it was fantastic. Great episode today!!

[@DeeperChristianity]

Currently proposed NDEs and their connection to Christianity as a potential dissertation topic in my doctoral program at LU! I've emailed briefly with Dr. Habermas, and I'll look into this gentleman, Dr. Miller, as well. Thank you!

[@DeeperChristianity]

This is the new arena of apologetics!

[@ColtranesOffspring45]

​@@DeeperChristianityyes, you're the first person outside of myself that I've ever heard refer to nde's as an expansion of Christian apologetics

[@IndianaJoe0321]

Which university is LU? Louisiana?

[@ryannoe86]

@@DeeperChristianityI have wondered why they aren’t discussed more in the church.

[@DeeperChristianity]

@@IndianaJoe0321Liberty University

[@SalonNews]

So I’m watching this and a quarter of the way through I start thinking about when I had a hellish experience after an extreme overdose with kief. I will not go over the whole experience bottom line is as I was watching this program I looked down at my watch and it said 420. It seems and sounds benign, but 420 is the representation of when you’re supposed to light up every day with marijuana. Kief is pure THC from the plant. What I’m saying is this is how God talks to all of us. God was reminding me that Marajuana is not part of the pathway to salvation, in fact this is where it leads to, hence my hellish experience and going to hell. There are no coincidences. The Lord is always speaking to us, loving us, and yes correcting us. God is good!

[@genevieve-gh3lp]

💯🙏🏽

[@soniarose1983]

Is that what 420 means. Woah!

[@saltyark7564]

@@soniarose1983 Yeah 4/20 the date and 4:20 the time is the international stoner time for “time to smoke up” for many different reasons… sometimes you’ll see patches or stickers that say “4:19 - Got a minute?”.

[@saltyark7564]

This comment is kind of saddening… you are giving the impression marijuana leads people to hell, in reality it helps many people from acting on horrible actions. If marijuana is not going to help you spiritually ofc you will get paranoid and make you feel bad, if you do need it to calm down or relive pain then you will tend to have a better experience, even if that horrible paranoid feelings keeps you going out and harming others. It’s a great tool, people with cancer use it to help them get an appetite. Marijuana is not bad for everyone, it’s not great in some people because it causes stagnation. However… it is not evil, it is such an amazing tool for certain health issues and to get someone out of a strict linear way of thinking. I quit smoking it many years ago. I was a daily smoker 3blutns and apple joints plus boles, I was a heavy smoker. I quit for nearly 10 years.. however with all the pain I have in my body I will smoke a one hitter before going to bed maybe once a month or so. Weed, isn’t a bad thing, but just like anything it can be good or bad… many people actually grow out of it. Where once it was calming and enjoyable it will make people become paranoid. Mostly due imo to having more responsibilities as we get older or it served its spiritual purpose. People have used marijuana for centuries to help with medical issues and religious/ spiritual practices.

[@DavidPierce-pn4lc]

At Approximately 26 minutes and 20 seconds, Dr Miller said he felt we need to talk about our spiritual experiences more. I feel that we are seeing the fulfillment of scripture where it says that in the end times shortly before Christ returns... Our young men would have visions and the old men would dream dreams. Dr. Miller, in his comments where he says we should judge using the light of God's word to guide us is absolutely Spot On!!! God bless all.

[@JAWeinacht]

The greatest lie the devil ever told was to convince the world he didn't exist. If Satan was trying to do anything in this arena, it would be to hide himself.

[@russellmiles2861]

And What would be worse: listing to this podcast for eternity. I been in terrible situations in my life. Hell is nothing to me. And I'd be with family and friends.

[@FindTheTRUTH337]

@@russellmiles2861are you listening to? Hell is extremely much more worse than any experience you could have in this life and if your family and friends are there, you won’t be hanging out with them and how much would it multiply your own misery to see those you care about going through the worst possible horrors and suffering? It’s not okay to choose hell.

[@russellmiles2861]

@@FindTheTRUTH337 I appreciate your point of view ... I can only offer I have different feeling and experience. For me living for ever would be torment beyond endurance. Death isn't that bad.

[@SleeplessinOC]

@@russellmiles2861you think you will cease to exist after you die but never forget , you WILL live forever in one of two places. Which one you go to will be up to you if you choose to accept or reject Jesus but don’t think for a second that you will bypass hell if you choose to reject Jesus as your savior and that you will simply evaporate into nothing after you’re dead. I’m afraid you like many others will only believe once you are in hell at which point it will be too late to change your eternal destination . Your choice . Just don’t ever say no one warned you. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@NightmareRex6]

@@SleeplessinOC why did God design the system tho for its too late once one is in hell instead letting everyone know 100% instead having to have "faith" and "belief" 99% humans in hell BECUASE God made the systems in place that results in that! but we can see the angels were given the knowlage and only around 33% ended up (will end up) in hell. but yet this God wants "none to perish" but why created the archane system and rules in FIRST place? i LOVE the ultimate creator and want to have KNOWLAGE of the christ, but i ALWAYS been one those peaope to question everything, but i guess were not allowed to question God even if its in curiocity instead dirrect rebellion? as when i DO get answers, i pretty much always agree with God.

[@carolcarr7867]

Hell is always the least digestible part of the Bible. The truth can be hard to accept.

[@avitalsheva]

Bible itself is not truth. I almost cant believe that people didnt realize how bible came to existence and that a word bible does not mean anything else just a book.

[@mandyp2320]

Eternal torture is an example of GOD’s “Love”.

[@natalijaasbjornsen8827]

@mandyp2320 No, it's a choice if a human to reject free gift of salvation. Because God's presence can not go together with sin, the sinner has to choose Christ's righteousness. He gives it to us for free so we can stand on the presence of the Holy God. He bought us out of sin by His blood. And a person who decides to reject it chooses to stay in son and subsequently he can not be in the presence of Holy God. Because there are no sinners in heaven

[@luisfontanez5681]

Bull the Bible never mentions hell at all. Is all made up by certain christians and accepted as true.

[@nealswanson8684]

​@@mandyp2320 Eternal Constant Torture is not for us in the scripture, the unbelievers will be destroyed and that still won't be pleasant.

[@simonline1194]

Dr Maurice Rawlings - Beyond Death’s Door and Before Death Comes (Random House Publishing 1985) deals with the negative NDE’s A very informative and thought provoking read. Simonline🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤔

[@carolinebutler6268]

Very good books!!

[@stevemiller6368]

I agree. This is a first-rate cardiologist speaking from his own experience. I don't think he can so easily be dismissed.

[@MarshAgobert]

Thank you, Dr Miller. I really appreciate your heads up and the work you're doing. Hearing an Islamic man very energetically tell his story of a brief sojourn in Hell. He converted to Christianity after that. He was very energetic and excited in the telling. In him I heard the ring of truth. It (hearing him speak his experience) was one of the events that brought me Home to Christ. I Was primarily motivated by fear in those first days. I'm grateful for that man speaking his truth.

[@jeromeofmiddleton]

Excellent point about the need to address the dangers of this “new spiritualism”

[@grnpeepers2683]

Organized religion is so abundantly corrupt & compromised nowadays, THAT'S what's dangerous... AND demonic. I can't believe people are still falling for that money grab.

[@gtilusso2101]

Definitely.

[@nancyfalcon2796]

mine was distressing, only because they said I had to stay here longer because I had things left to do.

[@tesarlts1966]

Hope they weren't demons just saying that because they knew you weren't gonna die yet.

[@soniarose1983]

Maybe commenting here was one of those things!

[@marwood1969]

It's a great frustration as a Christian that we cannot get people to listen when we talk of these things. We know they are real and most secular folk just laugh at the notion, usually through a veil of denial. I was saved 12 years ago and a few years after that what I know to be a demon visited me in my bedroom one night. To this day, I do not know why. My lasting memory is the terrible, awful fear I felt. It's really indescribable. I was literally frozen with terror. And that's just one of these beings out of its normal 'habitat'. Imagine being cast into their realm, where the worm never dies, forever. It's too awful a thing to dwell on for any length of time.

[@stevemiller6368]

Thanks for sharing. It took decades before I shared my negative, vivid dream, which I now believe to have been a demonic attack. If Jesus was tempted personally by the devil, why do we think it's odd that sincere believers could face such attacks?

[@lisaphillips7038]

Sounds like sleep paralysis

[@marwood1969]

@@lisaphillips7038 I'm 52 years old and know exactly what sleep paralysis is like. This was not it. I was wide awake and the thing appeared as a terrible shadow, almost a cloud. My wife had the same experience a short while later.

[@SleeplessinOC]

@@stevemiller6368hi , are you the doctor in this interview sir?

[@stevemiller6368]

@@SleeplessinOC Both Sean and I hold PhDs. We're not medical doctors. I did my dissertation on deathbed experiences.

[@evezinyuku5923]

I have witnessed people in the end of life stages. I can count many times these people experienced presence of people around them. The person would call out that she needed the people in her room to leave her room. On answering request, I had to pretend I had told the persons in her room to leave. Some would acknowledge the presence of their loved ones speaking with them. You could tell that the patient was in some conversation with someone. I believe the veil between the living and the dead is very thin. That near death, patience go in and out through the veil days before death. I was very uncomfortable at the beginning but later could tell when someone was near death.

[@stevemiller6368]

Thanks for your report from the front lines. I think we're wrong to assume that we simply need to adjust the morphine in such cases. I believe that about a dozen lines of evidence concur to show that in many cases people are indeed making a transition and can see things on the other side that others can't. And sometimes there are those "shared death experiences" where those by the bedside experience some of them as well!

[@j.d.leslie8458]

@user-kp9fz1jp9i Thank goodness you figured all that out for the rest of us oh enlightened one. Utter nonsense.

[@allhopeabandon7831]

@user-kp9fz1jp9i So, I do not agree with your atheism, I do believe in something very similar to your belief of the dying process, the only caveat being, that I believe that time stops, in the dying brain, and this is what the afterlife consists of. I was knocked unconscious (at a Christian camp of all places, right) when I was 11. I had a very long (45 minute or so) dream while I was unconscious...when I came to, I was under the impression that I was out for 45 minutes, but everyone, including the councilor who saw me get clotheslined and hit my head, assured me that I was only on the ground for a couple seconds, then sat up. If I can experience 45 minutes of a dream (albeit a kid's dream, with no Christian significance whatsoever...I did not see Jesus, did not talk to God, but then, I wasn't dead, just knocked out) in a couple seconds, then why not a year? A decade? Millenia, or, Billions of years? The difference between your belief, and mine, is that you believe that after the 'nothingness' that existed, bf the Big Bang, decided without intelligence that it was going to become a 30B lightyear phenomenon, that it was going to file itself into neat laws of physics, create stars, that would in turn, create planets with elements, that the Earth would be included in that group, but it would have a moon 1/6 it's size that would create tides (and that would be exactly the right distance away from Earth to show us a spectacle every few years, a sign, if you will, that someone placed it in that position, or knew it would be there when we were here). We have an internal magneto, which coincidentally protects the life, that, against all scientific theory, sprang into being just as Mendeleev postulated, tho modern science does not believe, but they also do, in abiogenesis, from solar, wind...then there's Biological design, DNA, ethics, art, etc...which you believe is thanks to myriad chance and lucky coincidences, where I believe it was designed by intelligence...but I digress... I believe that existence is to 'become' who we are, and that the reason that no NDE is the same, is bc we all have an eternal lucid dream as our afterlife. It really is the only way for each individual to be in paradise, and what greater gift from a creator than to live in an eternal state within one's own mind. I don't have it all figured out, but if time dilation is a thing, then why not when we are dying? All it would take would be a millisecond of the brain knowing that deaths here, to half the millisecond, and half that, and half that, for eternity... Your atheist stance is being rejected by more and more micro biologists, as they learn more and more about life. Life has never been created in a lab, and it never will, bc only God can create life. It astounds me that someone can look around at the Earth, or into the night sky, and think that it all came from nothing, that it means nothing, that we began as a single cell in a mud puddle of primordial soup, when the serious biologists are coming to a common consensus: Intelligent Design...

[@MrJimi777]

My Mother was an ER Nurse at a catholic hospital. She told me of a man that was dying , He arested and they worked revive him. when they got him back he was screaming he was in hell and that the shadows all came after him, biting and tearing at him.. Keep in mind this was before the Movie Ghost. He was frantic. she said the nuns came and talked with him about Jesus. I don't know what was said but the man became peaceful and was not afraid to die any longer. and he did pass away calm from what she told me. Also my Uncle died during the stress test and they revived him.. he told my aunt that he was on like a bus and there were black things beating the S^&T out of him.. said it was more real then here.

[@stevemiller6368]

Sounds like some of the distressing NDEs/DBEs I've read from the researchers. Scary.

[@MrJimi777]

@@stevemiller6368 on the Possitive side, My Grand mother told me when my Grand father was sick towards the end of his life , he was setting on the bed and told my Grandmother.. Ma! i just seen and angel! Him being sick she said oh wow.. He said NO you don't understand it was so real i could reach out and touch the feathers. No doubt in my mind there is a After life and Christ is the head of that.

[@mandyp2320]

Sounds like examples of GOD’s Love?

[@stevemiller6368]

@@MrJimi777 Thanks for sharing an encouraging experience! So let's say there was no indication that he was experiencing dementia, and he had no reason to lie and you were convinced of his integrity. He was convinced that he'd seen an angel. If I were in your family, I think you'd be warranted in believing that he'd really seen an angel. And then when you find that large portions of the sane population report seeing angels, you're given another layer of evidence that's building a case. I hope that we're coming to a time where people are willing to be more open about their visionary experiences. Only then can we evaluate them and potentially be impacted by them.

[@MrJimi777]

@@stevemiller6368 He passed years before i was born around 65 i think. so I can not be sure it was not a form of dementia or even maybe a med he was on.. I know he had issues with Hardening of the arteries and passed of Heart attack. My Grandmother played organ in the church for 40 years and was a Firm beliver in Christ. She was a stand up women that would call you out with love and not ever known to lie. If she said it ( more so out of the blue) I would bet money on that's what happend. as you said. the Hell experiances people are less likey to talk about for sure. I have a friend that had a heart attack and seen Both sides. the Heaven side he smiled as he told it. the other side he told a little bit and teared up and locked up. I find this stuff facinating

[@dougg1075]

My best friend told me about a near death experience that he had, into my amazement when he got finished, he says “I don’t think I’ve told anybody that” we are in our 50s and 60s and I’ve known him for decades

[@salemkid1979]

can you elaborate on what he may have seen, was it positive/negative?

[@ValerieGriner]

My late father was a medical doctor. He saw a LOT of deaths(and near deaths). I wish I had asked him about it.

[@stevemiller6368]

Interestingly, people don't tend to tell their physicians about deathbed experiences, unless they're exceptionally close. Dr. Sabom had never had a patient tell him about one, until he started asking them in his research and he was shocked to find so many. They're more likely to tell a nurse or family member. I think they're often afraid the a doctor may assume they're hallucinating.

[@stoobydootoo4098]

Well that clears THAT up. Thanks.

[@IndianaJoe0321]

I have been with many people as they've drawn their last breath. Nobody was ever brought back by heroic measures so God lovingly placed them where they wanted to be ... most get thrown in Hell, awaiting the White Throne Judgment. I had one old non-Christian fella who, with a clenched fist, cursed God with the f-word as he drew his last breath. His Christian family were outside the door and were devastated that they'd never see him again.

[@ValerieGriner]

@@IndianaJoe0321 That's so sad. I wonder why he hated God and cursed like that? Very disturbing.

[@renatakiss8501]

I’m so glad Dr. Miller mentioned his hellish dream experience. I had a very similar one during the pandemic. I only told a couple people who I thought would understand. I definitely reevaluated my faith after and I decided to get deeper into God’s word. Aside from my salvation experience, it was the second most memorable wake up call. While it was scary in the moment, I’m grateful for it now. The Lord also led me to relevant scripture when I woke up from the awful dream. That’s how I knew it was spiritual.

[@stevemiller6368]

I do regret that I didn't tell anyone about my experience for so long. I think that as we begin to open up more about such experiences, we'll find that they're quite common. I'm so glad that you allowed the experience to bear good fruit in your life, helping you to grow spiritually.

[@bigthunderjohnson7595]

I had an NDE a couple years ago. I had covid pneumonia, and had become exceptionally weak. I passed out from hypoxia in the bathroom and had a hypoxic siezure. I saw three bright flashes, and I heard a voice firmly say "stand up". When I came to I was fighting the siezure as I went to my bed. While it was a positive nde, I had drowning nightmare for months until it went away.

[@TheNetti]

If a person dies w/o Christ, then comes back and says that they experienced heaven, then I have to believe that person is being deceived and is coming back to deceive many more

[@cortneyb777]

All who call on the name of the Lord will be saved.

[@RebeccaAbrahansson]

​​@@cortneyb777 Not everyone that says unto me; Lord, Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of heaven, but he that does the will of my Father who is in heaven ~ Matthew 7:21-23 🍀

[@veronicaspencelocke2003]

AMEN. I think that needs to be discussed a lot more - when people who weren’t born again before an NDE and don’t become born again afterward because they experienced demonic deception, something like a ‘play’ fallen angels/demons put on for them. I’ve heard several say many of the things we hear from those who experienced ‘the real deal’ - like the feeling of overwhelming love and peace, the beautiful light, and even a few (supposed) relatives. I wonder if perhaps they’re brought back *before* the experience gets too deep or goes on for long…and then those poor people are swayed toward New Age type things, or just the belief that ‘the afterlife’ will be wonderful for pretty much everyone - so there’s no need for a Savior, sadly they don’t have a desire for Christ or anything like that and as you said, they go on to deceive others, pointing them in the *wrong* direction…it’s heartbreaking to hear them speak about it - demons successfully ‘masquerading as angels of light’💔

[@citizenoftheworld1032]

Of course! That's the only logical explanation 😜 God has arranged a deceptive NDE for them, to make sure they do not find out about hell until it's too late 😝

[@genevieve-gh3lp]

Satan always has a counterfeit. God is greater, satans power is limited

[@racerx4152]

in later times god says your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams ( acts 2:14 ).whatever experience you have, make sure that it matchs up to the word of God. I know it's of the devil, when they make no mention of repenting of your sins, of going to hell, where jesus is nowhere to be found or mentioned. the bible says to test all things ( 1st john 4:1). that the devil comes as an angel of light ( 2 corinthians 11:14 ).

[@stevemiller6368]

Yes, we should test everything, using discernment. Some NDEs may be simply general revelation in that a person comes to realize there's more to this life than this physical world, since many NDEs may contain only certain elements, such as leaving the body and visiting briefly with a deceased relative or angel. For many, this causes them to seek further, and if they truly seek, Jesus said they'll eventually find. So I do think that even those that don't contain Jesus can be legitimate. Think of it like the incredible organized complexity of the universe. For many, that's a starting point on their spiritual journey.

[@peaceonearthpeaceonearth9686]

Nothing impure will ever enter the kingdom of heaven. Lustful thoughts are impure thoughts. If you struggle with lust, stop consuming flesh.

[@paulgleason7191]

Great episode. Thanks Sean

[@susanwilson6505]

You don’t need to try and lessen Dr. Moody’s study. He was the ground breaker. Good man.

[@genevieve-gh3lp]

A True

[@ehecken]

This is a fascinating conversation you guys, thank you!!!

[@clarekuehn4372]

Lots of saints had attacks by demons. And Jesus Himself said there is Hellfire.

[@Matt-y1l]

Jesus is a fking monster then!

[@stevemiller6368]

And Jesus Himself had his own personal encounter with Satan tempting Him. If forces of evil can attack Jesus, none of us are so righteous as to be immune to such attacks.

[@Matt-y1l]

@@stevemiller6368 Jesus is a punk!

[@stevemiller6368]

@@Matt-y1l I suppose you mean "punk" in contemporary slang, meaning "liking what you like, being yourself, saying what you think, regardless of what others may think or how they may attack you for it." In that sense...yes!

[@AllDoneHere]

Fruit of the Spirit - Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control are highlighted in Galatians 5:22-23a.

[@Yerpompous]

I have listened to probably 100 NDE’s of people who went to Hell. It is UNCANNY how absolutely similar they all are in that they ALL say They felt more alive than here on Earth, they say being alive here is more like a dream compared They say there are tons of “Fair-Weathered” Christmas there They all say that because they understand differently there, they believe and know they belong there They say people are torchered according to their sin. For instance a pedophile will be forced to do what he did on earth but it’s for eternity and he is in agony having to do this. They all say it smells like rot and sulfur They say the demons look reptilian They ALL say that the demons rip off a persons skin and take them down to a skeleton and then they regenerate to start all over again. They say they are exhausted and want just a drop of water and can’t get it and they want to rest but can’t for eternity. They all say they have zero energy because that is from God too All because people reject God. Jesus is our Savior. He has pulled every person out of that place who we’re blessed enough to be here telling us their account. They say they feel pain on a whole different level and it’s all encompassing. They ALL say there is no hope and that the worst part of Hell is that they will never be with God EVER! Remember ! God IS LIGHT LOVE PEACE LAUGHTER JOY COMFORT SLEEP ETC ETC

[@Matt-y1l]

Your God sounds like a tremendous ahole.

[@chloejasper6852]

I 200% agree with all of these things...I've heard all of these consensus myself...almost EXACTLY. I want to love, worship, praise Jesus with all my heart, no matter what, I want to be with Jesus for all eternity. I'll do anything to avoid this final judgment!!! I thank God for the HOPE we have in Him!!

[@Yerpompous]

@@chloejasper6852 isn’t is absolutely astounding and convincing when you listen to soooooo many people describe the exact same place? Even people who knew nothing about the Bible find out after how many things they experienced are straight from the Bible? Yeah why even take the chance on risking an eternity without God? Blessings to you and I’ll see you heaven some day!! Lol 🥰

[@chloejasper6852]

@@Yerpompous I listen to NDEs daily.. sometimes several times a day. I'm 68 & will have a DNR...if I go, dance in my grave!!! There are so MANY COMMON N DENOMINATORS among thousands of NDEs...but they come from every nation, every race, every age, every walk of life, every professional, every gender old or young, beautiful, ugly, Christians or sinners...there is no boundary on WHO these testimonies come from...AND YET, they are CONSISTENT. Shall I have doubts??? God forbid...I BELIEVE!!!!! Eye hath not seen what He has prepared for those who love Him!!!! Here are many of the common things I hear in all of these NDEs #1). Initially, they are out of body & often don't know they passed. #2) there's always communication..always TELEPATHICALLY..no speaking #3) THEY KNOW..they know things ..all kinds of things..they are instantly enlightened #4). Most often, they discuss either a tunnel they travel through..or flying at the speed of sound to another destination #5). Sometimes someone comes for them (can be angels or demons.. sometimes demons disguised..saying follow me) but not always met with someone #6). Most often they discuss their destination as the most beautiful garden, with mountains, trees, glistening rivers or some combination #7) they discuss HEARING the most glorious music they've ever heard.. worshipping God #8) they talk about a light brighter than they can imagine..but doesn't hurt their eyes #9). Have you noticed..about 80-90% of the time, they bring up COLORS..say there's colors there we don't even have on earth..& That they are incredibly VIBRANT 10). OFTEN talk about seeing or meeting like ved ones who were WAITING for them EDIT...forgot .. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, always Discuss LIFE REVIEWS... everyone gets a life review (so write your history as you wish to see it then) 11). Often heard, eternity is the REAL PLACE, Earth is almost fake & we're just passing thru 12) and then there JESUS...& HIS LOVE!!! Oh my goodness!!!! INCREDIBLE. One said, take your most valued moment on earth of truly feeling love, & multiply it times a billion, & that is what you feel when you encounter Jesus' love. Now mind you, these are only the common highlights I'm mentioning from watching hundreds (if not thousands) of these NDEs. I BELIEVE They don't know each other, but their stories are too alike!!

[@AC-kl8gi]

​@@chloejasper6852I thank the Lord for his Mercy! I saw that black place after an illness. Thankfully when my spirit left my body I didn't see anything but pitch blackness as my spirit was suspended in the pitch blackness. The knowledge of my death entered my mind automatically. But the Lord had mercy on me and by his power put me back in my body. I woke up with no fever that I had for over a week. I immediately upon waking ran to my Bible to read it. I went to a church to get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ after that was filled with the Holy Spirit. I thank him so much for his Mercy he had towards me.

[@wretchedsinnerRighteousSavior]

Ive had one before. Whats sad is it scared me for the day then satan blinded me to it and i kept using drugs. Now i look back and am terrified how close i actually got to hell

[@rabymaidahsavage258]

I'm recommending you read what helps me like Revelation chapter 21 and Chapter 22 and John 3:16 and Isaiah 26:3 and Proverbs 3, 5 and 6.... Remember: Who is number one? Focus on number one, the Creator Yahweh not Lucifer who is created NOT a creator.

[@wretchedsinnerRighteousSavior]

Yes I agree. Thanks be to Jesus for saving me from hell and that life​@@rabymaidahsavage258

[@inTruthbyGrace]

@@rabymaidahsavage258 use the name God... Jesus never mentioned "Yahweh" in a single manuscript so unless He forgot and was lying, we better take John 17:6 very seriously.

[@logan666]

Matt 22:32 tells us god is not the god of the dead but of the living. Anyone claiming to see god during an NDE is not seeing god

[@lynnef9330]

@@logan666You’re right. It was a demon who appeared as an angel of light. Just like the Bible warned us to watch out for..

[@catherineahtipis4716]

Hell is real and should be taken seriously. Positive experiences are more likely to be coming from demons, whose goal is to deceive us into believing that we have nothing to fear in the afterlife. Do not be fooled. Repent and turn your life to God because eternity is forever.

[@csiribicsiriba]

Is there data from non-western cultures? I wonder how near death experience of hell are seen in non Christian societies.

[@kimdavid4406]

I read that book "Return from Tomorrow" as a young Christian back in the late '80s, I believe. It was an amazing book!!!

[@carolinebutler6268]

Me too!! Amazing book!

[@stevemiller6368]

Yes, a powerful book! I think his credentials as a well-respected academic Psychiatrist gives him credibility.

[@jasonkellar8585]

Dark ages? Pre scientific? This stuff is in scripture! Hell is a real place that everyone is going to unless they repent and become born again. Jesus said “ I am the way the truth and the life NO ONE comes to the Father except through Me. Please anyone who is watching this that is not saved PLEASE read the gospel of John now and give your life to Christ now.

[@DonovanSpaanstra]

Amen!

[@abnormalynn7885]

"Like we shouldn't be talking about them right now" oh yes we should! Jesus is the only way to Father God we need to be shouting it from the mountain tops because the Lord is coming back soon and you don't want to be caught without Jesus❤ I had a Life After Life experience and I shared my testimony and made a video how did God tell me if I was going to tell it I needed to tell it quick because time was getting short

[@troytaylor5768]

Excellent video this is a topic that no one seems to try to speak on the difference between new age NDE and Hell NDE experiences. I have watched hundreds if not a thousand NDE testimonies. It has always bothered me the profound differences and messages between new age and biblical NDE. Would love to see a follow up video on this topic.

[@stevemiller6368]

From my research, those NDEs claiming to support niche, New Age teachings are quite anomalous--not a part of the core experience. I verified this by looking at almost 150 consecutively submitted experiences to the NDERF site. But if someone searches KZbin for "near-death experiences" I'm sure that a much higher percentage of anomalous experiences with by selected by the algorithm, since more people would naturally "like" experiences that give something new, or something confirming their worldview, than those showing the same old core experience.

[@ryannoe86]

@@stevemiller6368 I have been interested in these for a while and read NDERF and watch NDERF stories on KZbin. It feels like NDERF fit a Christian worldview much better than IANDS experiencers. However,I feel like the NDERF stories are more genuine.

[@timothyscavo8510]

Read about Pastor Daniel Eckechukwu, who died in Lacos Nigeria in 2001, was dead for 42 hours, came back to life when his church prayed for him, and is alive today.

[@heatherredden6642]

Excellent balanced discussion…as usual… so many “ snake oil salesman “ and demonic influence😟 Randy Kay and Touching the Afterlife are both solid on Truth♥️

[@krissyyoung9264]

I’m not sure about Randy Kay. He’s allowed a few guests to tell about a “heavenly” NDEs, but they didn’t align with the Bible and did not include Christ or redemption. When I searched for more info on these guests, they had New Age beliefs. Why would a born again Christian (Randy Kay) share those experiences as truth? They make people believe that salvation in Christ Jesus isn’t necessary.

[@Qilver]

​@@krissyyoung9264i think you should let people share their experiences no matter if it does for your narrative or not. Thats the honest way to go about it. Also what people are saying are their own personal interpretations of what they experienced. I think its good to not filter peoples experiences on the narrative you want to put out but stay honest about it

[@judyswain9245]

Great information! Thank you!

[@friendlyman9032]

Hell is real..most go there...the fear of the Lord is beginning of wisdom..dont sidestep hell..preach more on it because most dont believe in hell...

[@zachz1018]

I've never once understood this. God is on my team, and I am on his. Jesus is the way the truth and the light regardless of the old testament being about mass genocide. The person without father without mother without begining of days or end of life, who was made like the son himself, the prince of peace and King of (Jeru)Salem. Who has the authority to forgive sin and casts judgement upon the beings in psalms 82. Who's order Jesus himself claimed to be an eternal high priest of, Lord Melchizedek (Hebrews 7, Genesis 14, psalms 110, psalm 82:6 via dead sea scroll. Plus 11q13 the coming of Melchizedek.) if Jesus is God. I have NOTHING to fear for he is my beloved, he is my armor and my lord. Why would you ever fear your family and team?

[@kasspriscilla9350]

I almost end up in hell in the Bible it says once to die after judgment well I felt my soul melting and I saw at the bottom was a fire I fell into God's hands because of some drug I did when I was standing in the courts of heaven the Devils were there they spoke a different language I didn't understand god was showing me the consequence what would happen he had me in his hands and kept tipping me over and over and over again showing me that it's serious it's not a game and I told the Lord I would never do it again I baked him and baked him please I'll never do it again please God I won't ever do it again and then I called on the name of Jesus have mercy I promise I'll never do it then I felt my body being restored and I was thankful to God and I gave him praise God is good God says he loves those he chastises but I'll tell you hell is real it's not a good place to be especially if you're going into the fire that's the most scariest thing to go through and this is my testimony

[@stevemiller6368]

Thanks for your testimony!

[@kasspriscilla9350]

@@stevemiller6368 your welcome

[@Lee-de2wl]

I had an experience in bed one night when there was a heavy force on top of me, holding me down and I was just calling out Jesus Jesus Jesus over and over until my husband woke me up. He said I was moving about and making a noise. I asked if I was saying words and he said no just crying out. I knew that force was demonic.

[@ndr226]

Did that force have human-like form? Did you notice any vails? Thank you.

[@hopefulvoyage]

The Shawn Ryan Show recently interviewed a Christian researcher on this topic. It is worth watching.

[@chloejasper6852]

Thanks for this! I love Shawn Ryan, but don't get to watch every episode. They are great! But long. I'm gonna look this up.

[@JohnAnderson-ss9vn]

i used to think that when people report a life review in ndes , who was recordin all these lives. however only a couple of centuries past, no one could have believed we could have the ability to create videos in the manner that we can do today

[@genevieve-gh3lp]

In day of old they called it a life review, seriously it’s true or I was shown.

[@aaronhicks6019]

God can do anything❤

[@MsHumble4]

Thanking you for THIS video. Showing us only the marvels in NDE, can be dangerous. Ex. If I am not happy in this physical experience, then it is ok to begin thinking about killing myself… * I have heard about NDE which have left people very depressed and unable to live a normal life. Telling The Truth about NDE it can help everyone to become a better person and be good to EVERYONE.

[@stevemiller6368]

Good points. Some distressing NDEs were indeed in the context of suicides. I'm glad that today's researchers are more open to the legitimacy of distressing NDEs. But many writers still ignore them.

[@SleeplessinOC]

@user-kp9fz1jp9iumm OK. These words will play back in your mind for eternity . Good luck because we all live forever in one of two places .

[@ehecken]

That was a great comment "people are on a search" why. If I truly didn't believe that there was anything more to this life then why would I be searching for anything. The fact that a person is searching for something is a huge clue.

[@mrsellenj.a1740]

28:01 it made me think of my blackout days glory to God he delivered me from alcoholism, addiction, depression and demonic oppression,I have experience both demonic oppression and a beautiful life changing NDE it is real both are very much real, this video is confirmation for me thank you very very very, I just wanted to say that Jesus Christ is wrapped in beautiful unworldly brilliant light,he is love in his presence is perfect peace, comfort and love, I pray many many others seek Jesus without something extreme happen to them and they don't wait for someone to go through something to call out to Jesus Christ, thank you this video is very relevant to me much love and appreciation God bless you and your beautiful family

[@stevemiller6368]

Thanks for the wonderful testimony and encouragement!

[@jerryloufretz1797]

So, it's said that Stalin had a negative death experience. When he looked at the corner he became terrified. Scary..

[@stevemiller6368]

I wasn't aware of this. Do you have documentation?

[@IndianaJoe0321]

​@@stevemiller6368: from "Twenty Letters to a Friend," a book by Stalin’s daughter, Svetlana Alliluyeva published in 1967: "His breathing became shorter and shorter. For the last 12 hours the lack of oxygen was acute. "His face altered and became dark. His lips went black and the features grew unrecognizable. "The death agony was terrible. He literally choked to death as we watched. At what seemed the very last moment he suddenly opened his eyes and cast a glance over everyone in the room. "It was a terrible glance, insane or perhaps angry and full of fear of death and the unfamiliar faces of the doctors bent over him. "Then something happened that to this day I did not understand. He lifted his left hand as though he were pointing to something above and bringing down a curse on us all. The gesture was full of menace, and no one could say to whom or to what it might be directed. The next moment, after a final effort, the spirit wrenched itself free of the flesh."

[@IndianaJoe0321]

We need to remember that Joseph Stalin was an atheist, and he was suffering from a severe case of paranoia during the last couple years of his life.

[@CBL-if8jr]

His "comrades" and servants stayed a w a y from him after he ( most probably had a stroke ) slowly over 1 to 2 days d i e d. There was n o intervention by his doctor. Everybody was afraid to make a mistake, to anger Stalin..... s o he had to die- alone

[@racheldoesacrylic4089]

The American satanist Anton Levey also stated screaming before he died ,he saw what was coming for him and was reported to have begged God for mercy /terrifying stuff this really is x

[@user-vw6gv6wu9j]

What is really sickening how many people try to get rid of evil spirits they burn Sage don't they know if you read the Bible Jesus gives us power over them how come no one is telling anybody this question mark

[@stevemiller6368]

Yes, I believe we must fight spiritual battles with spiritual weapons. For those of us who believe in the inspiration of the Christian Scriptures, it makes sense invoke the name of Jesus, who has authority in such matters.

[@johnf6267]

Burning sage is witchcraft so ironically they intensify the demonic

[@dcbickersteth]

Really helpful talk. I have become concerned over the direction of the near death study groups which seem to have become very universalist and neo pagan - not all - but enough to confuse anyone logging on to the subject on KZbin etc. As an Anglican priest, once a long term member of the diocesan deliverance ministry team, I think good intelligent Evangelical understanding of NDE is long overdue. Dr Miller’s writing is a very welcome addition.

[@stevemiller6368]

I searched a theological journal database on the Evangelical Theological Society website and found no articles on NDEs. Tons of articles have been written on NDEs in scientific journals, particularly medical journals, so I'm trying to expose more Christian scholars to the relevant research to begin assessing it. It has been terribly neglected. J. P. Moreland and Gary Habermas have indeed studied and written about these issues, but mostly in books published by scholarly presses, rather than theological journals. I'll be presenting a paper on NDE research this November at the Evangelical Philosophical Society to try to raise awareness and encourage more study. Perhaps you'd like to be involved in such efforts.... Thanks for your comments!

[@dawngray7168]

I would love to talk to Dr. Miller or Sean and tell you about all the things I've experienced. The first time I remember something happening I was 4 years old, I'm now 57. I have witnesses to back up the experiences.

[@josephturner7569]

I have lucid dreams. So powerful I have confusingly remembered them as real. 'hell' has featured. Not fire, just dark and negative. So, I decided to go exploring. I learnt to fly in in them years ago so off I went. The last time was just getting interesting when I was woken up. From in the dream.

[@josephturner7569]

@user-kp9fz1jp9i Then how do you explain the measurement problem ?

[@wilmatitzgreaux5086]

Steve Millers tone and pitch gives me a Dave Ramsey vibe

[@stevemiller6368]

Hope my Georgia accent wasn't a turn off. I'd trade it for mid-western or a British accent any day!

[@snicklesnockle7263]

I've heard people who go to hell are ones who expected to. One lady's experience wasn't "that" bad because she expected to go to purgatory.

[@TruthAboveAll08]

There is no purgatory. It's one life here, that is all. Death, then judgment. Jesus, and only Jesus, pays our penalty and marks us NOT GUILTY. How great a gift, and how can we not reject the things of this world when He has done SO much for us? Love and gratitude make me want to live to honor Him!

[@snicklesnockle7263]

@@TruthAboveAll08 I never said there is a purgatory.

[@citizenoftheworld1032]

I'd say the people that need hellish experience for their growth and development have it. Doesn't matter what deity or prophet they believe in. But this channel picks and chooses experiences to convince people that jesus=heaven, no jesus=hell.

[@dpdeere]

@@citizenoftheworld1032 this channel is doing its best to save your soul. The only way to Heaven is through Jesus. The other direction is Hell and Satan. Listen to some of the NDEs online. You’ll understand you don’t wanna go to hell. EVER.

[@TruthAboveAll08]

@snicklesnockle7263 And I didn't claim you did. I was merely clarifying on purgatory, as so many hold that idea,.indulgences and loved ones praying for them after death as their Get Out of Hell card.

[@mats8966]

A Very interesting topic.

[@mkultra9896]

Thanks Sean for having Steve again! What’s always fascinating is the future things shown during NDE! Explain that right??? What does that say about this life? My husband would always say “We plan, God laughs” 😊

[@brucevaughn4374]

Folks, we need to fast and ask God for his Armor and also for THE GIFTS OF HEALINGS🙏

[@patriciathomas1252]

Armor of God...... Ephesians 6: 10-18 Hope this helps. ✝️

[@brendangilmore4297]

Don't forget the apostle Paul had an experience like this - 2nd Corinthians 12 v 2 :)

[@vernspeakman1282]

Question; Has Dr. Miller ever talked to a Muslim and heard what they had to say?

[@deathrayanimates6586]

Most NDES on Muslims I watched say they saw Jesus instead of Allah, just look em up

[@deathrayanimates6586]

Most NDES on Muslims ive watched which is alot have said they met Jesus and converted to Christian, hopefully that answers your questions.

[@cortneyb777]

Look up Cedric Kanana. He was an imam and died. Read his testimony. His accent is really strong. I couldn’t understand him in his interview. He’s a wonderful writer. Quick book.

[@stevemiller6368]

Good question. There are a few studies of NDEs in Muslim countries. Rarely, if ever, do they report seeing Muhammad. They may call God "Allah," but of course that's their name for God. I searched the NDERF site and found 80 cases in which people either self-identified as Muslim, or noted that they were from majority Muslim countries. None of them mentioned seeing Muhammad. When I searched "Muhammad," none stated with assurance that they saw Muhammad. Only one state, with hesitancy, responding to Dr. Long's question about seeing religious figures, "Uncertain. I saw a light, which I believe may have been Muhammad."

[@bryanbulmer6716]

I had some sort of human looking entity visit me at night once. I think it was a angel of some sorts. It came to my third story window when I was sleeping and pulled me up outta my body so that I was sitting up. Hen my blinds snapped open without him touching them. And there was this dude with light brown skin and curly hair and he was sweating. But the sweat looked almost like drops of glass. He just stared at me with almost a look of displeasure and I got a huge wave of fear along with it. I was then shoved back into my body and I woke up. I put a sheet over my blinds after that, lol.

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

Good thinking, that sheet outta keep him out. 😂

[@christ-upfellowship5413]

Ya all should share Sheila Shaw's NDE. Amazing!!! ❤❤❤

[@citizenoftheworld1032]

Try Nancy Rynes NDE.

[@TimBitten]

He mentions nightmares. I am able to stop my nightmares at any time I wish. All I need to do is take mastery of the scene and say: “Enough of this. This is ending right now and I’m waking up.” I then awaken, am usually annoyed, and return to sleep.

[@leroybrown7612]

Why have nightmares in the first place... check!

[@aprilclark2302]

I have come across nde experiencers who have said they felt unconditional love and also that there was no hell and that evil wasn't real etcetera . Then when they come back they are teaching us that it's all about love. Do you think they can be deceived by evil in their experience but then teach us to love each other?

[@truthhearit1471]

Yes! Demons can appear as angels of light.

[@aprilclark2302]

@@truthhearit1471 that's what I'm thinking. We have to be so discerning. I feel horrible for these people who have had these experiences and think that they are going to be fine in the next life .

[@stevemiller6368]

My hope is that some of these people who think all is well on the other side, because of having a good experience, are just at the start of their faith journey. It's easy to conclude, "All is well...God loves me...what could go wrong!" although they typically weren't really told on the other side that their beliefs and life choices don't matter. And most of them don't seem to be familiar with the distressing experiences and what they might mean. You're right, we all need discernment. And it's only those who truly seek who are promised by Jesus that they will find.

[@jacquelinejacobson6789]

Yes. One man who experienced hell after dying said that he witnessed people being deposited by green vortex to a fake scene of "love". If they came back to life then, they would think everybody goes to heaven.

[@aprilclark2302]

One thing that I find very confusing is that some that come back with a more new age view for lack of a better term. But they are all about loving people. And they change their lives to do service work. So it all seems great. I know that God will work that out in his perfect way.

[@OGStinkywizzleteats]

A month ago or so I was asleep one night and had a dream. In the dream I was outside with a few other people that I didn't know. It was nighttime, and the moon was shining very brightly, illuminating one huge cloud in particular. One of the people that I was standing with said, "If you move that cloud looks like a dragon." Sure enough if I moved slightly to the left, the cloud would transform into the likeness of a dragon. Small ufo's were flying in and out of the dragon cloud. Suddenly, I felt as though I was being pulled into the ground. I knew in my dream that I was being pulled down into hell. I immediately woke up. The dream really disturbed me. It still does. I was raised Christian. As an adult, I still believe that Jesus is Christ and died for my sins. However, I've done many bad things in life. I have always believed that I was saved through faith in Christ, but the dream has made me wonder if it was a warning.

[@GramCracker77]

Probably just your conscience giving you grief. Because you know that you can do better! John 10:28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

[@AB-mq6ly]

I bought my first ever Bible to try to understand Christianity. I have always felt spiritual in some way, but not convinced in there being a God. Within the first pages I'm struggling with the concepts. Why, for example, does Genesis 1:26 say "and God said; Let us make man in our image; after our likeness". Who is "us" and "our"? Why did a God that could create Adam from the dust of the earth, need to use one of Adam's ribs to create a woman? If it was for Adam's DNA, to ensure they were compatible, she was effectively his sister. Knowing what we know today as humans - this would have resulted in birth defects and so on. I'm asking for the readers / believers here to help me understand, not critiquing.

[@truthhearit1471]

Let us make human in our image... God the Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit.

[@truthhearit1471]

As far as Adam and Eve.. They originally were made perfect but they had the great fall because they went against God and were kicked out of the Garden of Eden. This is when the DNA begins to be corrupt.

[@Sumwhere-N-Between]

The “us” and “our” is the Godhead. The Father, Son/Word, and the Holy Ghost/Spirit! Romans 5 explains more about Adam and Jesus Christ, it’s an awesome chapter to read! It’s so good that you’re wanting to understand and know the truth 😊 “A daily dose of wisdom” KZbin channel has some good videos about the Bible. The guy used to be an atheist and he went on a journey wanting to know the truth and trying to understand. He got saved. You’re doing the right thing by reading the Bible with a soft heart! God will answer your questions my friend! 🛐 Salvation/eternal life is a free gift from God received by grace through faith in Jesus Christ in a nutshell. Christ died for the ungodly sinner, was buried, and rose again for our justification! I would read Romans, because it starts off giving the bad news in the first two chapters and starting in chapter three it gives the amazing “good news” I pray you come to the truth ❤ Jesus Christ literally is the way, the truth, and the life and no man comes to God the Father except by Him!

[@Sumwhere-N-Between]

Josh Yunger on Joe Rogan talks about a hellish NDE he had. But he’s still an atheist. I don’t believe 99% of NDE’S because they tell a false way of salvation! But I believe Josh’s NDE!

[@Sumwhere-N-Between]

Another good channel is “Whaddo you Meme” he used to be an atheist too. But he’s a humble understanding guy! 😊

[@PahooKatawah]

Excellent presentation. Thank you.

[@cortneyb777]

Dr. Ritchie’s book was fantastic. Def recommend reading it. It shows the playfulness of Jesus. 💕

[@Qilver]

I am an atheïst myself but did have kind of a spiritual experience. But i did use mushrooms so i try to think skeptical of it. I felt like i died and was one with everything around me while only seeing a bleu sky and clouds so beautiful i never have seen in my life. I never have felt this good off a feeling in my life. It was like i was meant to be their. But all of a sudden i felt panic and started falling down into black red darkness than woke up in shock about what happend to me. I was in shock for a few days. After this experience i did chance my life like not doing drugs anymore and trying even harder to better myself. I also was experiencing sleep paralysis the monts after while never having this before the experience. Now years after this experience i did turn my life around quite a bit. Still have much change to do. I didnt have sleep paralysis for a few years already. I feel alot better. It was a crazy experience. But i thank it for changing my life anyway.

[@stevemiller6368]

I warn people away from seeking such experiences through drugs, since I believe there are both benevolent and malevolent beings on the other side. Opening your mind through artificial means (drugs) or through mediums can possibly open people up to be in touch with dangerous entities, or simply mess with their brains. I read the book The Harvard Psychedelic Club, about the lives of some of the early advocates of LSD, etc., such as Timothy Leary. While it did seem to open people up to something beyond a material existence, and transformed some atheists into theists, Huston Smith noted that once you receive your message, hang up! Instead, so many of these just continued to want to have more experiences, and their character/wisdom didn't seem to improve over time. At the end of the above-mentioned book, the author shares both a wonderful LSD experience and a subsequent terrible one that had lingering effects. Thanks for sharing your experience. I hope it will warn people that there are often bad experiences that have lingering consequences. My spiritual search through humble, sincere prayers, reading the Christian Scriptures (I believe there's strong evidence that the earliest and best manuscripts on Jesus' life were those contained in the New Testament), searching with other sincere seekers, and reading the best books for and against God, the Bible, etc. Thanks for sharing!

[@leahparker9033]

I have a Spirit guide...the Holy one.

[@lmb1931]

I was having these vasevegal attacks regularly. It felt like I was dying. They were terrifying. I wouldn't exactly describe them as hellish, but they certainly inspired me to want God in my life. I went to confession, started attending mass regularly. I attend a daily if I can. I pray the Liturgy of the Hours, morning prayer. The Divine Mercy chaplet. St Monica's Chaplet for my children. I'm not bragging--I want to do this. God is the most important One in my life now. The vasevegal attacks disappeared. I believe that Merciful Jesus was telling me something about my eternal future through them.

[@stevemiller6368]

Thanks for your horrifying, but victorious testimony. Dr. Gallagher (Demonic Foes) indeed found that when Christians seriously maintain spiritual disciplines (church, bible reading, prayer, etc.) that this tends to be the most important thing for ultimate delivery.

[@citizenoftheworld1032]

The idea of punishment implies justice. The idea that somebody could be burned and tormented eternally, eons after eons, for a brief life on earth, especially for an ideological infraction such as not believing in the right dude, there is just something hateful and vile about this idea.

[@russellmiles2861]

Well God chooses to punish infants for sins of their parents. So I wouldn't put it passed Him. Personally, I can see why anyone would worship such a god - for what - immortality. That would be Hell!

[@BIBLE-UNBUTCHERED]

​​@@russellmiles2861are you two nutters? You're statement is profoundly false. Citizen of the world - looks like you've made your choice.

[@stevemiller6368]

Of course, some theologians take the word "eternal" to refer to more of an "era" than "everlasting time." However you take it, I agree that the punishment seems to be overkill (literally!) from a typical human view of justice. So if we assume that God is like us, this is indeed a contradiction in the biblical worldview. But of course the biblical worldview presents a God who is indeed love, is indeed just, but is also quite different from our ways. In fact, He's radically different from us according to Isaiah 55:9, 10 - "as the heavens are higher than the earth." I do think that NDEs reinforce that God is both just and loving. I've never seen anyone coming back proclaiming, "God is such a meanie" or "God is so unfair!"

[@SpaceCadet4Jesus]

​@@russellmiles2861 There's other scriptures that says that children are not responsible for or punished for their parents sins unless.....they partake in the same sins. So that one scripture that you found was misunderstood and mistranslated. I have looked into this issue before and resolved it.

[@russellmiles2861]

@@SpaceCadet4Jesus the Beauty of the Bible is you make is support almost anything including the truth.

[@websurfin9575]

Jesus clearly warned that FEW would travel on the NARROW ROAD that leads to Heaven! So.... saying that the majority of NDE's are positive shows that something is not lining-up with the teachings of Jesus! He said the majority of people would travel the BROAD ROAD that would lead them into the eternal fires of hell! There must be alot of COUNTERFEIT NDE's from Satan that is deceiving many into believing that the majority of people will end-up in heaven & not hell!

[@stevemiller6368]

I think God gives people the experience they need. Nothing in the Bible tells us that people experiencing clinical death should have the same experience that they would have had during final death. Why wouldn't God show himself kind to people in their darkest moment to show them his love? As Jesus said, we are to treat the wicked with kindness because "He Himself is kind, to ungrateful and evil men." (Luke 6:35) Surely God's purpose in such experiences is to provoke people to seek Him, so that eventually they'll find Him. I think He'd prefer to woo people with His love, since "the kindness of God leads us to repentance." (Romans 2)

[@GrantMunson-up3oh]

yo wut that’s my teacher

[@stevemiller6368]

Hey Grant! Yes, I continue to stalk my students during the summer. You can't get away from me...keep doing those weekly readings and reflections!

[@midimusicforever]

@@stevemiller6368 Remember that Grant was here when it's time for grading. ;)

[@djentile7773]

Haha

[@miso.1993]

I want to be this kind of a teacher lmao "you cant escape me, see you tomorrow, better have that assignment done"😂 ​@@stevemiller6368

[@stevemiller6368]

@@midimusicforever I may give him extra credit.

[@COMNAVAIRPAC1998]

I am a Christian and had a NDE as a child, I was made aware from that that we are eternal and eternity awaits us some day, yes be kind to others, pray, forgive, be honest and be thoughtful of others. Now as a Christian since youth, born again, I know I am secure in knowing I will reside in eternity with the Lord. With that said, I totally believe many who share their NDE's, I get it. But just because you saw it and were made aware of it, does not mean you go back to that place, you were allowed to see it, experience it, the love etc and many are changed because of it. Many if not most of the ppl ever to exist have not had this experience and that is where the knowledge of the scriptures come in to build faith in the existence of God, the Son, and the Holy spirit. Blessed are those who have not seen, but believe said Jesus to the disciples after he had risen and Thomas wanted to touch and believe and he did...that was his experience. The Lord is nearer than I think many know right now. The time for speculation and doubt is long since past. Get in the good book, read the testimony of one apostle named Paul. He was changed and inspired to write most of the NT. God bless and take care.

[@stevemiller6368]

Thanks for sharing your NDE and how it impacted your life. I think you have a good, balanced approach and it's encouraging to see that it bore good fruit in your life. How old were you? Did you know anything about NDEs prior to your experience? Was it extremely real? Do you still remember it like it happened yesterday?

[@susanwilson6505]

If it’s true, it’s true dude

[@christophernodvik1057]

The John Ankerberg show back in the 80’s had this on.

[@stephenvos2380]

Prefer real life testimonies vs academics who have PhDs. Hell is real. Demons are real. And Jesus told us more about hell than heaven.

[@LetsTalkChristMinistries]

You’re acting like they’re mutually exclusive. The man has obviously done EXTENSIVE research into those who have had NDE….. which ARE “real near death experiences.”

[@russellmiles2861]

Yes, zoombies, UFO abductions, stolen elections, vampires, levitation, lizard ruling the World, restrictions. Don't let book people tell you otherwise

[@johnf6267]

I prefer PhD who can scrub info , amalgamate and recount versus listening to people wander all over.

[@Samantha30090]

And from what we understand about the hellish experiences, those who experience hell most often say they're relieved of the experience once they experience a change in hellish attitude OR they ask for assistance from the divine beings such as Christ or some being of light. The individual's religious (or non-religious) preference plays a role in the sort of exit the individual experiences. If you study Eben Alexander's experience, he began with a hellish experience that morphed on its own into a divine experience.