In the Prog Seat: On the Bandwagon, Off the Bandwagon

Join the In the Prog Seat crew for a discussion of bands we really liked, but at some point we just stopped listening to for no apparent reason.
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[@chrisalo2989]

Man, these Prog Guys? They are so good!!

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Chris, you guys nailed it too!

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

I think the King needs to make another Prog Seat appearance soon!

[@ericporter344]

@@seaoftranquilityprog agreed

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Thanks Chris. Loved the Squares show this week. I agreed with so many of the choices too!

[@chrisalo2989]

@@ericporter344 many thanks!! :)

[@stevendavid5370]

I'm watching this video on 2/9/23 - Pete has asked about bands with huge discography, does that prevent you from getting back to that band you stopped listening to. Well, if that is the case - I suggest you listen to ranking the albums videos for that band, find which albums others think are the best to worst and get those better albums first. That's what I do and This channel has ranked the albums of many bands. That is one of many reasons why this channel is so, so wonderful!! Thanks Pete and everyone on the channel.

[@knightvisioniixv]

Coheed & Cambria - I think I remember many months back (in one of these videos), Chris Alo said he initially enjoyed this band, because the chick on vocals sounded hot (or something like that.) Upon discovering that the singer was actually a man, his opinion was never quite the same again. 😂😂😂💀💀💀

[@noohoozfurra]

Lovin' Luis, impersonating Pete, impersonating Steven, with a "Fush'... 😄🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories]

This happened to me with STEVE VAI. Was on the Bandwagon after watching Crossroads and then getting Passion and Warfare. He music Inspired me. Then i got to Real Illusions..something happened. The thrill was gone. The strangeness of the music was now TOO self-centered and his output since 2005 has been very ambitious but i feel its more visual than songs i need in my life. And i say this as a former VAI MEGA FAN.

[@noohoozfurra]

Have I said this before? Hell, I don't remember. Anyway 'In The Prog Seat'...THE best, most informative and entertaining show ANYDAMNWHERE!! You guys...every one of you...totally rock. After a Luis comment near the end, I burst out laughing...my wife says what you laughing at? I said ITPS...I love those guys... 😄😄😄

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Colin!

[@noohoozfurra]

@@ericporter344 Great show as always, Eric...

[@chadvandam7179]

Sea Of Tranquility brought me back to dream theater! I did not know they existed until after about 1997! And I enjoy it all! Except for maybe “astonishing“!

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Thanks Chad. I barely understand myself, so what chance have the others got??? I used to be in the car all day at work, which offered a lot of listening time and I'm currently working form home now and that likewise offers a lot of listening time.

[@lazarossamaras4427]

Because of this channel I revisited the discography of Gentle Giant after In a glass house , and a lot of jazz fusion. The same thing happened with Fish after Sunsets on Empire.

[@knightvisioniixv]

Interesting topic. Hmmm... let's see: Rush - The final couple albums. Never lost interest in the band, just got sidetracked by the bevy of other artists I was listening to. It happens. Finally caught up with those albums just a few years ago. Magma - This one's for you, Pete.😜 After all, it was your hilarious review of Zess that got me reconnected with this band's releases from the 2010's. The description for Rush applies here, as well. Pretty much agree with Chuck about Yes. Great episode.

[@bluejayfan5584]

My off the band wagon theory is that our brain has an appetite just like the stomache. Sometimes your full. When we are young and looking for input we listen to a lot of different things. After that our body knows what it needs and we got the diet down.

[@powrnap]

Rush,Yes, Jethro Tull - but I’ve revisited them all, and all were rewarding.

[@purpletemple1]

Some 15+ years ago, I went twice to Helsinki and bought all "Five Fifteen" albums, great Finnish prog/ hard/ classic Rock, and I listened to those a ton (love their homage album covers). I probably haven't taken them off the shelf for about 10 years...Don't even know if the band still exists. Cheers.

[@rocioiribe5841]

That Riverside episode you guys reference was one of my favorites of last year. I knew their newest album but that video got me to jump full on board their bandwagon. And yes, it's emotionally heavy music.

[@kelvinpell4571]

Chuck and Steven are a hoot! Do the Americans need subtitles for his Perth accent??😇😇😇 Question: How do you find the time to listen to all these bands and albums??

[@mdlatham]

This channel has introduced me to a lot of new old music. Thanks

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching David!

[@justamops]

I’m a fan of Tangerine Dream’s 70s stuff, and one of my favorites is Green Desert, which was partially recorded in the 70s, then finished and released in the 80s. Some post-70s albums I like are Underwater Sunlight, Quinoa, and Light Flux. Also, some 70s live recordings have come out in their Official Bootleg series. Counting soundtracks, Tangerine Dream has released over 130 albums - I certainly haven’t heard them all.

[@DrOz-007]

The score to Sorcerer by Tangerine Dream is worth getting. Better still, watch the film!

[@michaelbaucom4019]

Off the bandwagon until my 30s, now on it: Rush and Pink Floyd, now on it permanently Off the bandwagon until my 40s, now on it permanently: King Crimson Off and on the bandwagon throughout my life, now on it again permanently:Jethro Tull On the bandwagon, now off: Yes... just tired of them Never on the bandwagon: ELP

[@mikeloomis687]

Agree with your choices except Rush and ELP. I would replace ELP with Kiss, Yes, or Rush.

[@mohammed.alfarsi.454]

Pete I think you should get 80s Tangerine Dream albums & some from early 90s, they're little different from 70s but really enjoyable. Here's my recommendations: Tangram (1980) Exit (1981) White Eagle (1982) Hyperborea (1983) Underwater Sunlight (1986) Optical Race (1988) Lily on the Beach (1989) Melrose (1990) Canyon Dreams (1991) Rockoon (1992)

[@maddysmith8846]

I would add Thief soundtrack (even with recycled bit of Thru Metamorphic Rock as Igneous, its only one track, I love Beach Theme), Le Parc, Tyger and 2 classic live albums - Poland (double) and Live Miles, as well as Logos also live, plus I like Goblin Club. You can then throw in the solos - Froese’s fab Stuntman, Pinnacles and Franke’s The London Concert. I don’t think we’ll ever get the ranking show, at least not beyond Force Majeure!

[@GeeVanderplas]

I've got a couple of bands where I bought some albums, really dug it and while I checked out their newer stuff I like it, but I always go back to the first albums I heard and I don't really feel I need to get more. If I want to hear those bands I want the albums that I know. Ayreon, Threshold, Dream Theater are a couple of those for me

[@DonHornsby]

What a great episode. As much as I love the Hudson Valley Squares, I have found that this group on "In The Prog Seat" to be much see TV! As always, the entire group brought their A game. For me, I would have to say that my "band I liked but stopped listening to for no apparent reason" was Pink Floyd. I loved (still do) the album "Wish You Were Here". But I stopped listening after "The Wall" (an album that I have no reason to listen to ever again). I never followed them or Roger Water's solo after that album. I guess I lost interest. I treasure the catalog up to Animals. But haven't listened for quite a while.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Don, thanks for watching

[@EvanBNW]

Megadeth comes to mind. Love the first 4 but didn’t love Countdown or Youthenasia. Then they dropped even further but I loved The System Has Failed and liked Endgame. Then disliked the next couple. Then loved Dystopia. So we’ll see with the new one if I’m still on the bandwagon.

[@rorke47]

did you end up liking the sick the dying and the dead?

[@EvanBNW]

@@rorke47 it’s ok, but not exactly memorable to me. I like it when I’m listening to it but then once it’s over I can’t remember a thing. Ironically I started liking Risk lately. Yes it’s Megadeth’s attempt at pop music and that took me a long time to get over but now I kind of like a lot of the songs for what they are.

[@rorke47]

@@EvanBNW Yeah I agree with your assessment on The sick the dying and the dead. Risk is ok, its nowhere near as bad as super collider. Thanks for responding.

[@carlsalazar4490]

I’m not sure if this has been discussed,but how about a favorite live prog song.

[@TheProgCorner]

You guys are the best.

[@ericporter344]

👍 much appreciated, thank you for watching

[@monsieurlehigh4912]

Scot, you should join the prog seat, too... that would be great! :-)

[@TheProgCorner]

@@monsieurlehigh4912 I wouldn't say no but I doubt they would ever ask me as I'm just a wee little guy!!!

[@sspbrazil]

Feel the same way about YES Chuck and Yessongs was the first album I purchased with my own money too, I got it through Columbia House when I was in high school too! I saw them on The Ladder tour at The Beacon and the Magnification tour after that at Radio City, but then I checked out and when Jon left the band and Chris died I was out for good.

[@MauriceHotblack]

I seem to have fallen off the bandwagon for just about every 70s band I was in to during the 80s. Hawkwind, Tull, AC/DC, Rush, Genesis, Marillion and Fish, Neil Young etc. I just went off in other directions; classical, jazz, folk, world, electronica and so on. Too much music, not enough time. Too many books, too many other interests. And I'm not a completist either.

[@mattshaw5179]

Great video gentlemen! I think the only band that I can think of that, for me, fits this would be Tool! I absolutely love the first three albums but I've never bothered buying the other two. People keep telling me they're excellent but... You know!! (My other two would have been Transatlantic and Coheed and Cambria.)

[@bradleystone2623]

Here are my 3 that I sort of "fell out with": 1. Yes. One of my favorite and most influential bands of my teenage years. Saw them many times in concert. But after "Union", I sort of just stopped buying their albums. Kind of lost interest. The exception is "Magnification" (which I bought just before seeing that tour). I guess my general impression is that their music just didn't hold up as well as other bands (started to sound dated). But I recently purchased "The Quest", and I think it is excellent. One of the best albums Yes has done in a long time - solid from start to finish, and the mix/mastering sounds fantastic! 2. Rush. Lost interest after "Vapor Trails". I remember when I first received that CD, and listening to it, I just felt it was so compressed that it was fatiguing to listen to. I don't think I ever listened to it all the way through, and haven't listened since. Also, they kind of went back to that "power trio" sort of sound like their first two albums, which I wasn't a big fan of. Haven't bought any of their albums since. I suppose I should check them out. 3. Uriah Heep. I still have my vinyl copy of "Salisbury", which is fantastic (although I haven't listened to it in decades. I vaguely remember "Demons and Wizards". Don't know any of their work since! I suppose the lineup changes made me dubious. Not sure why. I decided to include them, since many of you on "The Prog Seat" mention them glowingly. Which more modern album should I start with??

[@dragijakic6511]

Great show, surprised for Fates Warning George mentioned. All are awesome.

[@joedolenza7944]

George Lamie I am with you with Fates. I however came into them No Exit. Love Arch none the less. Zonder was a sad loss for me. He is one of my favorite drummers. I got the latest record to check in on them and they are playing jazz, whoa.

[@saltofano337]

Thanks Pete and SOT as you have intensified my interest in prog - diasgree on Asia - the last 4 w Wetton are good to excellent and saw them on two of these tours at Tarrytown music hall and Bb kings. Anekdoten - have all and last two are superb - deep long songs lots of melody and mellotron . Riverside have all except the latest - top notch.

[@G.D.1968]

Wasteland by Riverside is one of their best, ranks up there with Second Life Syndrome and Rapid Eye Movement for me.

[@mikemars2112]

Excited to check it out! Riverside was one of my "fell off my radar" bands. I've only heard up to Rapid Eye Movement (and the first Lunatic Soul).

[@PatKennedydon]

Regarding Tangerine Dream, I have most of their albums, I see Pete you stoped at Force Majure, well a Few albums I would suggest after that one which are as good if not better are. Tangram, Exit, White Egale, Hyberborea, Underwater Sunlight and Logos, their later 80's stuff and beyond are fairly hit and miss TBH. But I strongly suggest you check the ones out I suggested as they are amazing.

[@JoelPrice253]

Also the Poland live album. I think most people who got into them in the 70s disliked the 80s, but my first album was Exit.

[@PatKennedydon]

Yes actually I forgot about the Poland live album, it's excellent, I remember buying it on picture disc. They were a unique group and in many respects were groundbreaking.

[@RobGretsinger]

The interesting thing about Mike Oldfield is that I only ever like about half of any album he does. There are parts of "Tubular Bells" that I love - and lots of parts I really don't like. I feel his best album is "Incantations" but again it's a mixed bag.

[@gordy3714]

Pete can you do a 3 to 4 hour show bonanza of the 1st 4 Led Zeppelin albums v 1st 4 Black Sabbath albums v 1st 4 Deep Purple Mk2 albums. 👍✌️

[@sotdude7]

Wow!!!

[@gordy3714]

@@sotdude7 Pete it would be incredible, listening to the 1st 4 Deep Purple Mk2 albums, I'm finding I'm not listening to the so called famous tracks but, Pictures of Home, Never Before, Demons Eye, No One Came, Hard Lovin Man, Place in Line and Mary Long, I certainly have a new respect for these other great songs.

[@stephenbrown4211]

Rush. Got introduced to them by a mate. Loved all the early stuff but got sidetracked in the early eighties. Only now revisiting them as I hear a lot of newer stuff on British rock station Planet Rock and thinking, why did I jump off this bandwagon. Tom Sawyer just came on the radio as I started typing this!

[@JFB-Haninge]

Abouth Tangerine Dream, after Force Majeure; I want to mention; 1977 Sorcerer (soundtrack), 1981 Exit, 1982 White Eagle, 1983 Hyperborea, 1986 Green Desert (recorded 1973), 1990 Melrose..

[@philford1730]

Rush - jumped on with 2112, jumped off with Roll The Bones, jumped back on with Live in Rio, went back and rediscovered those albums from RTBones to Vapor Trails and beyond and now love the entire catalog Yes - jumped on with the debut, jumped off with Union and have never come back Kiss - Jumped on with Alive, Jumped off with Animalize and have never come back

[@747jono]

Great 👍🏾 show guys and some excellent choices 👌

[@ericporter344]

Thanks jonathon

[@daviddrennon4089]

Watch (at least) the Mike Oldfield live @ Rockplast performance. It's amazing. He didn't like playing live so that's probably a reason he fell off the grid a lot. He has long pointed nails at this performance, of which he uses all of them as picks. He's actually an amazing guitarist which you can witness here. Especially watch this version of Ommadawn, which is actually my favorite album release. Hergest Ridge is my second favorite with Tubular Bells following. The Live album is also phenomenal. There are other gems but not all. But to be able to watch this live performance is a gift. It's amazing. Please view. The entire band is amazing here. Mike Oldfield noticeably sweating as he gives 100%. It is powerful. In the same way Steve Hackett performances currently are. Mike Oldfield is vaid prog. Tubular Bells is the first recording I got stoned to (on 8 track) when I was 12. I'm 63. There was no movie "The Exorcist" at this time. So it wasn't related to something "creepy" at this point

[@PatKennedydon]

Just watched this again and the band for me who I just stopped and had enough of is Genesis. I have 5 albums by them and they done nothing for me so I just had enough of trying to like something I dont. Will I try again, I don't think so. The albums I have is Trespass, Selling England, the first live album, The Lamb and the First album. So if anyone wants to recommend one I try in the Prog era than I'm open to suggestions.

[@timhewtson6212]

Another couple of surprising concerts: We were standing on Haight+Ashbury in San Francisco, at a bus stop, just before Christmas, directly across from the original Grateful Dead house. Then a band started up on the sidewalk. What was immediately noticeable was that the sound system was vastly superior to anything we had ever heard from a busker band. They played a couple of jazz-rock fusion songs we didn't recognize, and then a Grateful Dead number. It was John Mayer. Then, way back, I went to see Boxer (Mike Patto/Ollie Halsall). They had just bought a hydraulic riser system for under the drums. Anyway, it malfunctioned and only one side rose as the drummer and his drums slowly slid to the ground, drums rolling off in disarray. You guys have attended many more concerts than I have. You must have seen some things.

[@toddschulz2807]

I had to quit listening to Pink Floyd for 5 years to recharge my appreciation for them. They were so over exposed I just couldn't do it. I am back on now.

[@aaronsteelman4732]

Great topic and great show. For me, it has to be Tull. I loved them in college and had their catalogue through Stormwatch, when the big split in the lineup occurred. Then I just stopped listening to them for a long time. Maybe it was because a friend loaned me some of the 80s albums and I didn't like the synth phase (with the exception of about half of A) or the albums after Ian blew out his voice on the Under Wraps tour. But that was no reason to stop listening to those roughly 10 great preceding albums. I have been listening to them again with a vengeance for about the last five years.

[@timhewtson6212]

Picking up on Pete's anecdote about Asia playing in a Barnes & Noble to a zero audience, is there a chance of a round on the weirdest concerts you have ever seen? I'll thrown in four: Watching Chris Heers play behind a bar in Stateline California / Nevada. Chris is a much-garlanded songwriter with an audience of three of us, sitting at the bar, then the barman behind the bar, then the Chris Hears band playing behind the optics of the bar. If you have never heard 'Leaning into Barstow,' it is up with Bob Segar's 'Turn the Page.' Then, when we were living in Tucson, there is/was a bar on 4th Avenue with an Easter Island head which had a drum circle of around 20 drummers. It didn't matter what the band played, the drum circle insisted they sound like the Grateful Dead, and preferably 'Franklin's Tower.' Then there is the famous terminal Mott the Hoople concert where they found themselves playing in a disused gas tank in Switzerland. Terminal, until David Bowie resurrected them. And the night Bob Dylan insisted on playing his latest album (I think 'Desire') all the way through to a bunch of people who just happened to be in someone's sitting room.

[@sspbrazil]

Ozric Tentacles are one of those bands that you go back to and you know what you are going to get lol.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Very true.

[@frankdenter863]

Great show once again! Weird how my experience with the named bands occasionally matches the one of the panel members (Tangerine Dream, Asia, Argent . . .). I also skipped the last Fish releases apart from Weltschmerz (but I've got Field of Crows - saves me one kidney, I believe, haha). But I'm the proud owner of the complete (studio-)catalogue on CD for Ozric Tentacles, Mike Oldfield, Wishbone Ash, The Tangent, Riverside, Evergrey, Yes, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull . . .). Some back-catalogue buying involved, of course - some records become surprisingly cheap with the years. I completed my missing Ash catalogue just two weeks ago with 8 or 9 albums for comparatively little money. My n° 1 pick is Uriah Heep - after Byron's and Hensley's departure the magic was gone - although I still like to see the guys live, but it's more of a cover band. Back in the days I gave the John Lawton line-up a chance - but I largely prefer him as the singer with Lucifer's Friend.

[@davideckert2889]

Great show. The Strawbs are one of my bandwagon bands and most of my prog friends that don’t like them is the vocals of Dave Cousins.

[@MackeyWilliams]

It's Rush for me. Over the past 20-25 years or so, I've bought all of their new albums and gave them a lot of time, but save a few tracks here and there, nothing has stuck with me like the tracks I love from AFTK-HS-PWs-MP. In fact, these days, I like guys' personalities and who they are as people more than their past five or six albums! My second pick is U2. I was all in with this band up until Zooropa when they completely lost me. Since then, I've tried every new album, believed the hype that each one was a "return to form" and was ultimately disappointed. Damn shame.

[@MudFlanagan]

the prog seat is costing me a fortune.....Brilliant shows guys.. thanks. i'm now skint :(

[@paulfaulkner2855]

Love all the Fates Warning albums, Disconnected is the worst but still has some good songs and FWX is a peaks and valleys with some great songs and some I skip. But, the last 3 are really good, especially Theories. The Ray solo album and the last Arch Matheos are both better than the final FW album and I will play those first. Never fell off even on their 8-10yr break.

[@wildkeeper]

I'm driving 5-6 hrs to see Trans Atlantic tomorrow because they would never come anywhere close to central Iowa.

[@zootallures6470]

@Pete I have also listened to Tangerine Dream up to Force Majeure which I don’t consider as good as the previous ones, I stopped listening to the band. Then I stumbled over Tangram - worth giving it a chance. Same thing goes for Mike Oldfield : Incantations.

[@johnhenfrey5936]

Sorry late once more to the party 🥳 another excellent show, and probably the funniest I have watched on s.o.t. Really great subject too.

[@noohoozfurra]

Incredible. The conversation's just started and already Eric has hit one of my picks with Wishbone Ash!! Saw 'em in '74...classic lineup...I played Live Dates to death...TO DEATH...then couple years later, completely stopped. Caught up with Andy's band, 4 years ago live in Glasgow. Wonderful gig. Did I buy any more albums? Nope. Shunned 'em twice! I'm gonna' keep takin' the pills... 🤨🥴

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Colin!

[@noohoozfurra]

@@ericporter344 Pleasure, man.

[@herrdwabash]

Thank you for getting me into the Flower Kings! I am so happy that they are going to be reissuing their back catalogue starting in May and June with their first four albums!!!!!!!!!!!

[@terryjohnson5275]

The first band I thought of for this one is Marillion - I was fully fully on back in 1982 after seeing them a few times in the old Marquee in London, I even dacned on stage with them when they encored with Steven's favourite Marillion song Margaret (being reasonably in drink and not Scottish I didnt see any problem with it) and went backstage into the dressing room where Fish signed the leg of my jeans (it was basically the shape of a fish, and those jeans have long snce gone to denim heaven). I got the 12" Market Square Heroes when it first came out as wella s the 12"s of He Knows You know and Garden Party ( and still have them in my collection) and gobbled up every album until Fish left (though I was a bit disappointed with Misplaced Childhood but not at all with Clutching at Straws). I didnt want to try Seasons End as to be honest I was one of those 'if it aint Fish it aint Marillion' types back then. I did get Brave which I really liked but then got Afraid of Sunlight that I thopugh was mediocre and so I fell away but then tried again with both Radiation and Marillion.Com but sold them both. Steve Hogarth doesnt gel with me and for some reason I just have a strong dislike to him and anything he does - weird , have no reason to but just do. With Fish, I lapped up Vigil when it first came out, played it to death, but never went any further after that. Another band that I was once a huge huge fan of is The Flower Kings, but after Paradox Hotel I just stopped, although I have got Royal Decree and like it so am now grabbing everything in between. SImilar with Spock's Beard- after Snow I bailed out then got the First Twenty Years compilation and am going back to everything I initially missed. Finally Dream Theater - Ibought everyhting as it came out form Images and Words up to Systematic Chaos but , The Astonishng apart - nothing else since - although as we know The Astonishing possibly isnt the greatest reflection of what they are about so will look out for all those post Portnoys. I have also, and I have no idea why I just have, just about lost my love of Symphonic/Prog Metal bands like Nightwish, Epica, After Forever, Xandria, Leaves Eyes, Within Temptation. Maybe if I revisit soemof them in a year or so's time I'll reconnect? I do see a bit of a theme with my onboarding then offboarding - changes to key personnel duirng my lifetime experience of following them - whereas for older bands that I got into retrospectively where thet happens I'm not so bothered about - such as Wishbone Ash, Uriah Heep, Jethro Tull. Another issue is that I may have just got I suppose I could say bored of what some of the bands were doing - like Dream Theater and The Flower Kings; or I felt they'd reached a pinnacle and wouldnt be able to top it - like Spock's Beard; or I just didnt like the music they were making at the time compared to what had gone before, like Marillion (To my ears the Mark Kelly of 3 Boats Down from the Candy and Incommunicado, kind of disappeared). And also the more new stuff that comes in, tied in to some extent with diminishing disposable income due to family commitments, bigger mortgages etc the more I had to make decisions about who to cut out as had I had sufficient finances I may not have stopped with some of these bands when I did. WIth streaming now though I can at least go back and see what I missed and if I feel it worthwhile can then decide to purchase. On the matter of Asia, I would echo that some of those John Payne era albums are better than some of the Wetton era ones, I'm thinking Arena, Aura and Silent Nation- and for guitar fans we cannot forget that not only was Pat Thrall with them for a short time but they introduced me to the exceedingly brilliant Guthrie Govan.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Great stuff Terry! And agree 100% on Asia!

[@lemming9984]

I had a "dance" too with Fish in 1982! I went to see Marillion at the General Wolfe pub in Coventry. There were only about ten in the audience, during Margaret Fish jumped off the stage, linked his arm through mine and swung me around the empty room. happy memories! I saw them at the Marquee too around about this time, Howard Jones was support - good match!

[@TranquilityFireReid]

@@lemming9984 Now that is what I call audience participation! Love it!

[@terryjohnson5275]

@@lemming9984 I was at that same Marquee show - from what I remember Howard had a plastic glass trown at him thar landed on his keyboard after which he promptly walked off.

[@lemming9984]

@@terryjohnson5275 I can't remember that, but I do remember a "dancer" on stage with him cavorting in plastic chains! The other thing I remember from that Marquee gig was The Enid's Hey-Ho playing over the house PA before the show started. The only time to this day I've heard that song...used to love the Enid too.

[@gaz6295]

Hi Pete, I'm a huge Tangerine Dream fan seen them several times in the UK and Germany, there is a massive discography, they have released over a 130 albums which includes studio, live and soundtrack albums, and this doesn't even include the compilations! There are a lot of great post 70s albums, I would start with Poland the live album recorded in the open air in Warsaw in sub zero temperatures, also Logos live in London, some of this album was used on the great Michael Mann horror film the Keep, if you want some great guitar solos go for the 220 Volt live album recorded in the US in 92 which even has a version of Purple Haze, of the later albums Madcaps Flaming duty is a great album with some great guitar solos released in 2007 which is a tribute to Syd Barrett, I could go on and on, they are still touring and recording even after the sad death of Edgar Froese in 2015.

[@craigtoelle1052]

I'm a huge fan as well. From where you left off Pete, try the Pilots of Purple Twilight box. It covers the years from 1980-85. It's fantastic!

[@jimhawkes]

Great show gents (as usual). For me there are a couple that spring to mind. Wishbone Ash I really loved the early stuff and continued buying right up till Twin "Barrels Burning" after which I kinda drifted away. I have heard the later albums and enjoy them but feel no need to buy them. Argent - Like Rick I got the Anthology album (on vinyl for me) back in the day, liked it a lot (I still have it) but then never bothered going any further.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Jim

[@aaronsteelman4732]

I have given up on Neal Morse’s various projects for all the reasons various guys have cited.

[@sspbrazil]

I love Riverside and Lunatic Soul too.

[@tkousek1]

Ditto in flower kings. Stardust we are was fantastic

[@vinnynatale3733]

I saw transatlantic in New Jersey and I drove 4 hours and it was worth it!!

[@briancox8518]

Genesis definitely for me used to really like them but not so much now after listening to the 80s material

[@garykelly9475]

Fascinating topic, and I find that some of my bands would be off the bandwagon for a specific reason- some mentioned here, like oversaturation or even lack of evolution/sameiness in the music Of those highlighted, Eric- Wishbone Ash- felt Number the Brave was a bit of a letdown, even with Wetton on bass, but the word of mouth for Coat of Arms got me, and seeing them live again at Renfrew Ferry last year just highlighted how great they still are- can't wait for Argus 50th anniversary gig in Glasgow. Strawbs- love them and kudos to Eric again for having the love for them. Just lost the way with them for no reason, getting back into them a few years back, loving the Ferryman's Curse (and Cousin's voice)- liking Lifesigns and the association with Strawbs via John Young and Dave Bainbridge helped in rekindling the love for me. Still much underrated As for Pete's choices- TD and Oldfield- absolute peak on Virgin label in UK, and love TD with Schmoelling and Haslinger- big drop off from Melrose and Rockoon- and whole thing with Jerome being recruited probably significant factor. I would endorse the Quantum era line up- saw them at St Lukes in Glasgow in March and the Quaeschlling live line up is stupendous, with fantastic catalogue range covered. Saw Asia with Payne at Garage (same as Mr Reid there) and some of that material really strong Flower Kings, Tangent- lost interest last few albums, waaay too samey, and frankly probably had enough of the happy clappy drippy hippy lefty element to the lyrics etc Yes- can't listen to anything over past two decades and lost total interest, kind of same with Tull- lost interest after Broadsword- last tour I saw. BJH- after Wooly left, never the same, and the performance in Edinburgh for victim of Circumstance tour just sealed it- and this was a band I loved through all their Polydor label years. ELP- my fav band growing up, but not aged well frankly Iron Maiden- lost touch after Powerslave, last itme I saw them was number of the Beast tour- Glasgow Apollo- never progressed the way they could have nice to hear some love for Larry Gowan- great prog credentials from the guy from Priesthill. Gabriel's band (Marrotta, Levin etc) on Strange Animal, Great dirty World, Lifeson on Lost Brotherhood etc. Caught him years ago doing a small gig in Bourbon St Glasgow and awesome gig and lovely guy. Small venue and mainly dinner and solo performance for mostly family members on his return to Scotland Perhaps Mr Reid may go to see Ozrics when they co-headline with gong at the Garage?

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Gary!!

[@iancarss8349]

Fantastic show, love the Malort stories

[@noohoozfurra]

Again...Eric...you been checking my collection?!? 😄 Strawbs...remember them from my 70s youth (more pop based) but came to Hero & Heroine much later. Loved it, then got off the bus... 🥴

[@ericporter344]

We are on the same wavelength Colin!

[@noohoozfurra]

@@ericporter344 Seems that way! 😄

[@glennschupner6493]

The Tangent are fantastic. All their albums are sensational.

[@fmellish71]

Gentle Giant didn't click for me for about 10 years before I had a chat with friends and they were all talking about how great GG is. I think when I first heard them, I was so into Genesis and was pretty young and narrow-minded, so I just don't think I was musically mature enough to process them. It was Acquiring the Taste that really drew me in and it remains my favorite of theirs. Now, they can be an itch that I can only scratch with like 3 albums in a row.

[@lemming9984]

Similar. I bought Missing Piece first. Wrong move. Put me off buying anything else for years. Many years later someone recommended Octopus. I revisited and love it all.

[@aaronsteelman4732]

I’ve had exactly the same experience as Pete has with Asia.

[@glschupner]

Wishbone Ash is fantastic. There's The Rub is the best.

[@paulduggan5323]

Hi Pete, I’ve spent a most pleasant day watching your fantastic, informative and humorous discussions. I discovered you through watching your broadcast with Phil Aston of Now Spinning. I’ve now subscribed to you. Keep up the good work and keep us laughing. Paul

[@NelsonMontana1234]

I've been a Crimson fan from the day "Court" was released in 1969. I followed them religiously all throughout the Adrian Belew years. Today, I still like the early stuff, have absolutely no interest in the Belew years and would not even bother listening to anything new. Not sure why. And yes, I bought the first Jethro Tull album when it came out and was a fan up to Songs from the Wood and felt I had enough. I was burnt out on their sound. But I learned about bassist John Glascock from the Sea of Tranquility channel and listened to Heavy Horses and now I have a new Jethro Tull album to listen to!

[@bema_seat]

1:59:10 All jokes aside, Pendragon does deserve a proper ranking. They are a great band, and should be more widely known. I own everything from 'The World' on. The only ranking video (29 seconds) on all of YT: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIK9Y3uPl993jdE

[@RobertEustace]

Tangerine Dream: MY favorites are the 1st (Four) Classic Albums - although do have some problems with he very first 'Electronic Meditation' - my absolute favorite being 'Alpha Centauri' - a masterpiece! This is when they were truly based in Germany and thus a true pinnacle of 'German KRAUTROCK' with all its many sub genres... Fast forward to the 2nd (Four) Albums from (1974 - 1977) : 'Phaedra'... 'Rubycon'... 'Stratosphere'... 'Richochet'... This was when they got involved with Richard Branson - Virgin Records and England! These Albums are much more accessible while maintaining aspects of the meandering exploratory 'formlessness' of the early albums... After that I lost interest as they seemed to become increasingly too commercial with all that special early mystery GONE! But, those initial (8) albums - are enough of a tremendous legacy for me!

[@kevinmcgauhey9813]

To Pete and anyone else wondering about where to begin with electronic rock pioneers Tangerine Dream after their '70's classics: First of all, Green Desert was actually recorded in 1974, so don't let the fact that it was released in the '80's fool you. Also Tangram (1980) is good, (it's about as "prog}" as they ever got by the way). But I've heard a few of their '80's albums, and did not like them. They're very cold (and borderline bland) New Age type works (New Age was its own genre) But because they sounded "New Agey" EARLY in that decade. I am of the opinion they invented the genre. If you like New Age (which is hit and miss with me) you might like it. Exceptions: I have heard a couple of TD soundtracks that are very good. You are already familiar with The Sorcerer because that was 1977, but the Legend soundtrack (1985) is also quite good. I wish the soundtrack to The Keep was available but last I knew there were only chunks of it here on KZbin, and that is a shame because it's good stuff. Other than those, I don't know what to recommend. They became a mostly New Age group. I did like Mars Polaris from 1999, which sounded denser, more layered and more powerful, so I took that as a good sign.

[@david.leikam]

Primus, after Pork Soda. 🐷

[@kevinmcgauhey9813]

Part of the parameters here is that we fell off the bandwagon, NOT by fault of the band. Like Chuck, there was a point where I quit listening to Yes, because Jon Anderson's high pitched voice was wearing on me. Great band, (Yessongs was in my top ten albums for a long time) and HE IS A GREAT SINGER, it's just that high register voice. I can listen to them in small portions now. It's the same with other high register singers.

[@kcewing1]

It's an unfortunate fact of life for musicians that fans are fickle, we flit in and out of love with our favorites, get distracted by new lights and colors. Meanwhile, the bands wanna continue to make music, to make their art, of course, but it would help if people like us bought their stuff consistently. But we don't. I don't. My guilty-as-charged is Rush. My go-to band from Permanent Waves through Grace Under Pressure, then I didn't listen to anything after Hold Your Fire until Vapor Trails and the Live in Rio DVD, then nothing after that until R40 Live, which finally got me back into them - now I love Clockwork Angels, especially the live DVD, but it took me five years after the fact to even notice it. And so it goes. My apologies to Geds, Al, and Neil for being an "absent lover"...

[@parishofrock2963]

Be Bop Deluxe, Genesis, Pink Floyd & Supertramp. Punk came along in 77 & I stopped listening. Only Queen & ELO survived.

[@jamesthousandkings5406]

Off the bandwagon with (Prog): Gentle Giant, ELP, and Yes. (Non-Prog): Stones, U2, The Hip. On the bandwagon with Transatlantic, Opeth and Riverside. EDIT: Saw all 3 this week. Transatlantic was fantastic, Pete and Mike killed it in the rhythm section! Riverside had a great little venue and very enthusiastic crowd, you're missing out if you don't catch them! But Opeth (& Mastodon)... well Opeth is just on a whole other level of face-melting awesomeness! The crowds at all 3 shows ate it up after the long Covid lockdown.

[@ron6927]

Couple of bands spring to mind. Caravan, love from the debut to Blind Dog at St. Dunstan's. Better By Far is fine but more straightforward. Never heard the next one but bought Back To Herne Bay Front and didn't like it much, never went back after that. Wishbone Ash, got off after Twin Barrels Burning. And, sorry Steven, but Marillion. Off the bandwagon after Fugazi. A trailer for the new album did interest me but so far haven't checked it out. I think it is a combination of there being so much to distract you, new and old, and as you get older other things get in the way, such as bills so you try and spend a bit wiser. Great show.

[@kenl2091]

Love Anekdoten but they rarely venture outside Scandinavia. Maybe next year. Last CD was 'Until All the Ghosts are Gone' from 2015. IQ are the band whose bandwagon I was certainly on in the eighties but abandoned them until seeing them at a fest about 8 years ago. Still great but a few interim albums to catch up on!

[@ik8034]

I jumped onto the "Fish" bandwagon, but, even thou I have all his albums, I rarely listen to then, but will listen to Marillion. Dream Theatr is another, got 1st album, turned me off, but rediscovered them again with metropolis album and been a fan ever since. Also ELP and early Yes didn't do it, years later I love both, especially ELP. Mike Oldfield Platinum to Crises are fantastic albums.

[@daicullinane7746]

Great and interesting show. Steven, I think the Ozrics set was £40 or so, which in 1993 was very pricey. My last album was Arborescence . The Year of the Black Rainbow was my last Coheed one aswell. My first choice is also my second. In 1989 I was fully into Marillion and anticipating the new releases from both parties, I was not disappointed. 1991 hits and I'm so underwhelmed by Holidays in Eden, I don't buy it. However, I really liked Internal Exile. 1994 Brave and Suits arrive and I love them both. And then , nothing I carry on listening to the albums I have , but don't buy anything new. At this point I don't have a CD player, vinyl releases are rare and out of my budget and I wasn't going by cassettes. Well, into the 21st century, about 2009ish I bought Happiness is the Road and kind of liked it. Picked up the albums to complete the collection, but listened to them infrequently, also picking up Sunsets, Raingods and Fellini from Fish, but only when I stumbled across them . Then the remaining Marillion came out listened to them once or twice. I mean, I bought F.E.A.R. In 2019, what kind of Marillion fan am I? Anyway, this all changed this I preordered the new album from the band, not knowing I would receive a download version aswell as the physical version. Which nicely arrived on my work provided tablet. After listening to the album alot, I thought let's listen to the rest of the catalogue. Which in some cases would be my second listen ever. Well, after listening to every studio album we'll into double figures. I thought, I've neglected Fish and I need to pick what I'm missing. So I have been listening to Fish. Just like Louis I find my kidneys useful. So I visited the man's website and now I'm only missing 13th Star. I cost me £ 60 for Feast of Consequences (standard), Field of Crows (deluxe) and the new album standard version including postage. As a result of this in depth listen to Marillion, my least favourite albums are not Radiation, Marillion.com or Anorakophobia.

[@paulwelch1992]

Pete I highly recommend Oldfield's Return to Ommadawn (2017) that's that's one that got me back on the bandwagon..

[@sspbrazil]

Great show guys. I can safely say I never bought a Styx album, I’ve never liked them, I listened to the new album based on Pete’s review and I still don’t like them. Lol.

[@ericporter344]

😂 but, you did listen! We can't like everything, but always worth a try

[@sspbrazil]

@@ericporter344 sure is, funny about Styx though, whenever I hear them mentioned I just cringe lol, but I gave this latest album a try and nope lol. Dunno why have such a reaction to them, maybe because they were plastered all over Detroit radio when I was growing up along with Kansas which is another band I can’t listen to and I owned some of their albums back in the day, but they are just a no go zone for me. I did enjoy Pete’s interview with Dennis DeYoung though, very amiable guy and fun interview.

[@knightvisioniixv]

@@sspbrazil What? After all this time, you STILL haven't been fooled by The Grand Illusion? For shame. 😉😜

[@sspbrazil]

@@knightvisioniixv hahaha. Nope. I don’t know what it is with that band, I just don’t like them.

[@mikemars2112]

Riverside. I was really into them in the mid-2000s and listened to the Reality Dream trilogy frequently (as well as the Voices in My Head EP). For whatever reason, I never listened to Anno Domini High Definition or anything after. Maybe I was just listening to other stuff? Still, it's crazy that I never went any further with Riverside. I think I'll order ADHD when my next paycheque comes!

[@sspbrazil]

Love The Strawbs Eric, their latest album is great.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks ssp

[@mladent1464]

The episode went completely off the rails towards the end, with discussion on Portnoy's birthday, Anthony and malört. That's In the Prog Seat for you - come for the serious chat, stay for the insanity.

[@glenjammin69]

Yes a Boud Deun shout out! They were from my area in Fairfax, VA back in the 90s and I must have seen them a dozen times. Always saw the same people at the shows (only like 20 people usually). And Shawn worked at a used record store by my house for a little while. Mahavishnu/Dregs sound...awesome to have them play locally but obviously wished they could have done more. Albums never matched their intensity live.

[@fmellish71]

Yeah, I never could dig any of the Tangerine Dream stuff beyond Force Majure. There's a whole plethora of synth artists that came up in the '80s that made much better use of the technology than what TD were doing at that point. There's a live album here and there between '78-'82 that's worth checking out, but if you've got Zeit, Phaedra, Rubycon, Ricochet, Encore and Force Majure, you've got the real meat of their catalog and you're probably good if it never takes you down the synth rabbit hole.

[@sspbrazil]

The Tangent are such a great band, love that band.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

They are indeed!

[@nectarinedreams7208]

Tangerine Dream's Force Majeure is definitely a prog rock album. They did some stuff before and after that comes pretty close but that's straight up prog. And it's great! Perhaps the last truly great thing they did outside of soundtracks and live albums.

[@jayfabe620]

A lot of punk bands in the 90s, most notably Bad Religion. Once I got into highschool and started playing in jazz band, my tastes started to evolve and I got more into fusion and later prog. I listen to a ton of punk from the 80s and I'll still dive into some 90s stuff, but I don't really mess with it too much unless there are newer bands doing their thing.

[@pauldenby878]

I'm so with Chuck - I used to love Pink Floyd, but now just can't listen to it at all (with the exception of the first two albums).

[@saltofano337]

Agree with Pete - Fan of early Tangerine Dream Early days and then dropped away after Stratosphere. My other choices are Crack the Sky, Weather Report, Angel, Nektar, Dream Theatre, Spocks Beard

[@danielribeiro8520]

1:49:20

[@Larjschoen1]

Great show as always, and yes, we finally got 5 minutes of Ozric Tentacles! They do somewhat suffer from sounding the same, but they did start a genre all to themselves and that is a feet that not a lot of Artists can lay claim to. I’ve been a fan since before Jurassic Shift, and feel that if you know them well, then there are some subtle differences with new things going on, especially in the last two to three releases! I could totally do a Ranking the Ozric albums! I love what they do! It’s funny how with many bands we don’t want to see them change their formula, that’s why we got into them in the first place. Ozric is just owning their place in space rock history!

[@stuartwexelbaum9070]

Hey Pete, For me it has to be Yes..one of my all time favorite bands but there was a period which I felt the material was so weak..I do like a few songs here and there but overall I rather go back to the golden period..