Season 3 Episode 4 - Field tile: is it worth the investment Farmer Chris and I look and the Numbers

[@reddog376]

Go give Farmer Chris a look. www.youtube.com/@farmerchris1

[@mrbakerskatz]

I nominate this podcast as best of year ! Great job !

[@farmerchris1]

Thank You

[@gayle4804]

Always love when Farmer Chris is there with you a lot of information that people don't know and are glad to know now thank you for sharing againAlways love when farmer Chris is there with you a lot of information that people don't know and are glad to know now thank you for sharing again

[@farmerchris1]

Thank You, like Dirt Perfect has said before, we don’t sugar coat anything!

[@gayle4804]

But I do know he doesn't never sugar coat nothing and neither do you

[@dansevern3291]

There are so many people who complain about stuff they have no clue about that it's hard to believe, when I did something similar to Hoover for 40+ years, I had to develop a thick skin, and now that I'm "retired" and doing what Chris does, it's the same thing. A friend of mine said it best "never cuss a farmer while you're sitting at the dinner table." I'm more direct, "if you let the knuckle britches with the complaints get their way, I would hope they're the first ones going hungry."

[@royordway9157]

Hi Chris and Mike, thank you for putting this together so some of non-farm people can really get why you did the tile work. Most of us understand the basics but when Chris attached real numbers to it, it hit home. I have to hand it to you Chris, you are a natural born speaker. Good like when you go to Washington D. C. in February, I don't really know what you're speaking on exactly, but I think it may be farming. Let's hope you audience there is as interested in what you're saying as this audience is.

[@everestyeti]

Nice to know what's happened to the fields that have been drained through the use of the tile plough, farming equipment needs room, if your forever struggling with a wet patch, there's a good chance you may damage the equipment as well.

[@waddeym]

A man that can close a deal by handshake, is a man of honor.

[@rockman531]

Howdy Mr. Dirt, Great Q & A !! Take Care, Jim

[@jonyells]

Probably the most educational video I'll ever watch on KZbin.

[@DaveDeaver]

Very interesting conversation. I loved listing.

[@scottmccrystal7287]

I really enjoyed this one. Great job.

[@ffmed425]

Unfortunately that’s one of the main problems we face today in America. People that have no clue what they’re talking about make a statement, others see it and run with it as facts. If it’s on Google or FB, twitter etc then it’s true. People look for reasons to get mad. We also have too many professional victims.

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Agree

[@digging_in_the_parks2238]

With the hard numbers that you have chris, its hard to argue with the fact that tile not only works but how well it work.

[@justinmills8084]

I grew up in the country in the agriculture area. I enjoyed your time with Chris. Thanks, Chris, for your time talking openly about farming.

[@colinhayward9184]

Historic farming before field clay tiles and money a trench was dug an filled with sticks and also farm creek crossings when if the timber rotted there was still a waterway.

[@vinnyhern]

Made my household chores not boring 👍👍

[@leer-winnobbeefarms2131]

Hay guys! Great to see you and be with you! I'm a one-man-band farmer, farming 100 acres, and I know exactly how much work that is! I can not comprehend farming 3,000 acres. My hat's off to ya, Farmer Chris! Thanks Mike and Chris! Lee

[@farmerchris1]

Adapt and overcome!!, “Work smarter not harder”

[@j.r.clifton9959]

Hi I am a student of KZbin I like to think Professor farmer Chris For the class today I learned so much But I would still Not pass the Test Keep them coming and I'll keep up on Is watching them

[@garyflint1793]

What a great relationship! Glad to see and hear the two of you speak on farming! Farmer Chris is a great man!

[@terryrogers1025]

Thanks for the update on the tiling results on farmer Chris’s properties, I have often wondered about how the tiling is effecting the yields and efficiency of the planting and harvesting operations. Thanks to farmer Chis for the better management of the land. Thanks guys, appreciate it.

[@jamesbondurant1956]

Very informational video!!

[@robo1210]

Chris’s idea of laying the riser flat and putting gravel over it works well. We laid a piece of fabric over the riser, then cover it with oversize. I know a farmer that did that with all his dry dams so he doesn’t have to go around the pipes. Here in central Illinois.

[@ecclesmilligan8712]

Nice to get the Farmer Chris's take on the value of field tiling, very informative. Excellent podcast and well worth the watch.

[@chrislaarman7532]

Thank you both, DP and Farmer Chris! - I found this episode really informative on the water management, the return on investment, and on the beavers and deer. It helps to explain WHY these works are done :-) DP, my congratulations once again on your concept of the tile plow!

[@tomnugent845]

Mike, one comment about beavers. We had a trapper take 65 beavers from ditches in our area this fall and winter. They are becoming a real problem. They will make a dam out of anything, including wheat straw.

[@jeffmentzer9186]

Mike, this was a fascinating subject as to all the specific things that you have to do. Watching your tiling videos didn't seem to show the articulate work of finding a rock layer and setting the pipe on top of it....awesome podcast DP and Farmer Chris!! Thanks for getting into the nitty-gritty specific parts of drain tiling. Best of luck to you both for 2023!!!!!

[@Tony-InLosAngeles]

Excellent video!!!

[@joshuacraigr420j]

Its always awesome listening to educational podcasts. Def a good one

[@6582rg]

This is great info DP.

[@bradfreer2132]

Tku Mike for this podcast, you and Chris give ALOT of valuable info for viewers, keep this going

[@jamesbergfeld5923]

Thank you and Chris taking your time for making this video. Very educational.

[@johnroberts8475]

What a difference tile has on the production numbers, thanks for disclosing the cost. As always a great video guys. 👍

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Thanks 👍

[@lawrencebeeler6273]

Compared to the last of these you did the audio is 100% improved and the picture quality is pretty damn good too

[@georgebryant2940]

Always learn something when you two get together and let us listen in. Great to know there are still hard working people out there not only making a living for themselves but benefiting us the consumers as well. Thanks

[@waddeym]

I had wondered how long it took to payback drain tile installation. Your video explained things well.

[@gregallsup9522]

Awesome Video!!

[@rickhaver5876]

Very interesting!

[@heatherlane9270]

Great to hear how well the field tile is improving production and was cost effective. Excellent podcast.

[@davidhill4711]

DP and Farmer Chris, this podcast was fantastic. Loved hearing from the investment and ROI. What a great story.

[@thomasdesmond2248]

Very informative and thank you both for taking the time. God bless

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Our pleasure!

[@lancejohnson16]

Very interesting show! It's refreshing to see a couple guys who are "outstanding in their field"! Keep 'em coming!

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Thanks

[@Bman2020]

Enjoyed it Gentleman a great watch 👍👋🇨🇦

[@georgehughes8698]

Facts don't matter to those people only their feelings.

[@philliptennis3537]

Great video DP and Farmer Chris!

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Thanks 👍

[@williammatthews2948]

Thanks for explaining how it works in your area.

[@iamcharliew67]

Great video guys! I'm glad all the tile jobs are paying off, I know it was somewhat of a gamble. Just a quick note, I enjoy all your videos but these are by far my favorite. Thanks guy's!

[@bump6469]

I have layed miles and miles of edge drain and underdrain on highway work and the benefits on it is amazing. Most of the rough places in a roadway is from water under the road and u have to get it out or road will always be bad. So I understand the situation and reason y'all do what u do. Now the beavers I prefer the hats and gloves they make from the little buggers. As always an awesome podcast keep up the hard work,

[@johnunsicker7440]

That the thing field tile works 24-7 and it just helps get the extra surface water away faster. That is one of the biggest problems. The plants want moisture but they don't want to be swimming in water. That why is is best to have a 1 inch or .5 inch every few days then 6 inch's in a day. Also with the soil drier the roots will try to find moisture as well then go deep and when you have a dry year the plants still can do good if the roots went deeper.

[@johnunsicker7440]

Framer Chris that the thing I know you do everything with a hand shake an that good yeah you should do stuff to protect you but yes most framers will not step or try to get land away from other framers. I can tell the you take care of the land and the landlords you keep them happy and they stay with you. Also it is not always about the amount of rent they get. It is about the relationship and how you treat the land and what you do for the landlord. Our family have been with the same framer family since 1985. It was a old classmate of my dad in school. His son was just getting into the framing with his dad and our farm was his first on he rented. Then in 2016 his grandson need proven ground for insurance reason so his dad gave him our farm to rent so it was his first. Now that I own it I'm staying with the same one and we are actually hoping that someday the grandson kids want to farm and they can take over my farm. They have treated us right and they do thing others farmers don't do. They take care of all the field tile that go bad and they remove snow in the in winter also if we need stone for the drive we get better pricing and also they come spread them for us as well. So in the big picture the little things mean just as much as the money. Also when they come to pay there rent it is not just a here your money they sit and talk for a hour or 3 LOL.

[@andrewbreaker8999]

Hi, this was really interesting regarding the extra yields on the fields you have drained. As the difference between UK and US farms is surprising regarding paying for drainage etc, many fields were clay piped in the 30s and 40s. I used to help do drainage on sports pitches, and the money sports clubs spend on drainage to agriculture is night and day. But guess in agriculture in the UK farmers have money tied up in machinery, buildings etc, especially as prices on crops and products aren't rising as quick as food in the supermarkets. Great video really enjoyed it.

[@SpeedSmith]

Excellent guys, very interesting.

[@pearcefarmtiling8354]

Almost every spring is wet, and Almost every summer is dry. Roots will not put down in soild water. Tile takes the water down early, and Roots put down deep. When it turns dry in the summer you have a deep root system, and is picking up moisture deep. So you're crops don't burn up.

[@tomnugent845]

Hey Mike, we have what we call wet weather springs on our hills in the spring. We dig in our tile in those areas and put a layer of fill sand. In the vicinity of the spring we dig in cross trenches at the elevation of the tile and put sand in also. The trenches are as close as 10’ apart. We have put in thousands of feet on .1 grade controlled by a laser. I would guess that most of your land has more slope and doesn’t require as precise control. Tile works 24-7. It definitely pays. On rented property our landowners pay for material and we do the work.

[@farmerchris1]

We have a bunch of “winter springs” seeping out of hills, run a tile to them and along the upper side but don’t use any sand

[@kylejones2075]

Thanks for sharing that was very very educational

[@bobsmith6484]

nice to hear that your tiling is paying off. Don't get to good or you will have so much work coming at you , you would haft to go full time tiling

[@BrianFullerton]

I have nothing against beavers, too. They make the best coats, bar none.

[@joycefuller9177]

Thank you

[@brucehuff5566]

Thanks guys that was very interesting and informative. Stay safe

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Thanks, you too!

[@thomastombengtson59]

Guys , Talkin beavers up in Ct . I worked for a 49:34 dpw and the labor and cost to the town fighting beavers was ridiculous they flooded over 100 acres and flooded roads damn beavers!

[@miachelandcarolynkerschiet2730]

Nicely done guys

[@johnwarren-649]

I've been looking forward to this conversation. I've been big supporter of tile I've seen the benefits on my own ground long before all this technology. I really wish we would have that technology just to see the difference in the 1st to 2n an 3rd year. Before it was how full the bins was not actual yield maps

[@farmerchris1]

There is benefit just not a cookie cutter pay back plan, each one different

[@ohhpaul7364]

I was wondering if Chris has tried any of the rod risers on the retention dams and how well they worked? Agri-drain has them, I have just seen you install the other kind which is just and exaggerated perforated pipe riser.

[@thomaskraan5191]

Interesting podcast, thnks!

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Thanks for listening

[@w056007568]

Excellent video / podcast in my opinion. Question for Chris - do drainage systems for high organic soils suffer problems with ochre deposits forming in the pipework and require regular high pressure drain-jetting maintenance to keep them clear as is the case here in the UK?

[@farmerchris1]

We run about 2-4% OM on our farms but working to build that up a little higher, they plow in tile every day of the year in Iowa and Minnesota and I think they run a higher OM and I don’t hear much trouble out of their tile

[@justinmills8084]

Farmer should get the c02 credit for use up the c02 and producing oxygen. The oxygen produced could never be used by the c02 animals you could produce.

[@shirleyc7175]

👍

[@billholmblad6208]

You cannot catch a spring by plowing a tile thru it. what you can do is dig a hole in the spring, place a 100 ft tile roll still tied together in the hole and fill the hole with 3/4 washed rock and connect the bundle to the main tile. The rock enables the whole 100 feet of tile to collect the water and dump into the main. Problem solved

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Have got many by sound just that

[@ericmjunker7883]

When you trench it in you'r mixing the clay with the top soil. Plowing it mostly just raises the ground a wont mix it up. When it settles the top soil will still be on top.

[@Anteater6788]

You would be surprised how much top soil falls through the slot behind a tile plow.

[@ianh9772]

You should take charge of the audio for all the podcasts, the few you've done are way better

[@dansbrown1313]

Hi guys, I would like to ask Farmer Chris if he has considered growing Canola down there because, Canola is the #1 source of farm revenue for Canadian farmers.

[@farmerchris1]

I think some in Kentucky has tried some canola but limited to no market for it in the area

[@hermanschepers4739]

1) You realize and a lot of people don't that pitch is everthing when setting up drainage. Too little or too much leads to silting up or blocking a line. 2) Beavers in the proper environment can help the land, just not in your situation! (Look at interesting video on PBS Nature kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ_SoqV7l9yieJY) 3) Good point on different soils, locations and methods in different locations. Excellent analysis and explanations by Farmer Chris and yourself! Don't have enough thumbs to put up on this one!

[@LAKESIDEBOB1]

I went back to the last years video on that swamp field you were talking about. You only charge Farmer Chris $1900 dollars for that work! You were on the job at least 4 days. Onsite the Volvo 140 and Cat D4. You moved in the John Deere 850J then moved it out bringing in the Cat D4. Aaron was on the job one day laying the 6 inch pipe. Matt was on the job part of a day he left at 10:30 Am that day. First day you dug holes looking for fiber optic cable, half a day. Next day Matt was on job and you two layed 8 inch pipe and were rained out. Aaron worked next day and you layed 6 inch pipe, next day Jerry worked with the D4 dozer leveling the ground and you were on the Volvo 140 working; that was a long day past 6:30 PM and you two continued working. For all that time you only charge $1,900 dollars for over at least 4 days time! My question is how do you stay in business you did not generate enough cash to pay your bills on this job. Farmer Chris got a wonderful deal on this job.

[@wayne735]

Time to buy Gunner some 330 Duke traps and teach him to trap beaver.

[@seanpierce7673]

I got one for Chris! DO the farmers od today still utilize the farmer's almanac? For trying to forecast weather and yields year to year?

[@farmerchris1]

I don’t, for our size vs manpower we gotta go if the weather and soil is good enough to run

[@HootMaRoot]

Is the beaver problem similar to the red deer problem where I live in Scotland there is less and less hunters for them. Over the last 10 to 15 years we have red deer coming into areas they haven't been near in 30+ years and now they cause car accidents every other week throughout the winter

[@leer-winnobbeefarms2131]

Our deer population here in Ohio is soaring, and even more so in the last year. In my first 40 years of driving I never hit a deer. In the last 10 years I've hit 3.

[@thomaskraan5191]

Hello Mike and Chris, is it common practice that you don't own the land where you farm on? In the Netherlands most of the land is owned by the farmer.

[@farmerchris1]

Yes, a lot of the ground is owned by non- farmers and rented out to farmers

[@jessiehodges1513]

When will the podcast update on Spotify for this season? The episode with Mrs. Dirt perfect has no audio and I haven't gotten anymore episodes to upload

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Sorry working on it

[@jessiehodges1513]

@afewpointsfromperfect thank you. Not trying to sound rude or ungrateful I love your podcast and the dirt perfect KZbin channel I just wondering if it was my device or an issue with the podcast uploading onto certain platforms. Take care and thank you again 👋

[@Anteater6788]

Most of the negative rumor about tile plows came from trencher owners who had to justify charging twice as much.

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Lol

[@byroneidem5944]

going to have to raise your price's DP sorry Chris lol

[@bpartwthog3]

Guys interesting as all get out...

[@davidbillings615]

You guys thank you for the info. Very nice the learn some of the intricacies of farming in your area. Also thank you for being willing to put some actual numbers out there to show us. You are right it isn’t our business but it is nice to hear actual hard numbers in the process.🫵👍👍👏👏

[@afewpointsfromperfect]

Our pleasure!