Second Opinion Doctors, What Was the Worst First Opinion? | Professionals' Stories #36

[@itiswhatitis_842]

I know of a man who complained about a pain for years. He went to 4 doctors and everyone said it’s not a big deal. He died... of cancer... the pain was because of the cancer

[@maegary8107]

This is why you leave the town of the town of the first for the second.Because they try to cover one another's Ass from law suites.

[@stephaniehowe0973]

💙

[@cowlords13]

Why does it seem that doctors, are not that smart....

[@itiswhatitis_842]

@@cowlords13 I think there are other contributing factors other than intelligence. Some doctors have a bias, they might have this ego where “I have the degree so I’m the one that’s right” or they might not give the right answer for the money, cause you’ll have to keep visiting them. Some doctors also just don’t care and they again have this mentality of “I have the degree so I’m right. Why should I run more tests if I’m right?”

[@cowlords13]

@@itiswhatitis_842 Your spot on

[@WayWardWonderer]

If a doctor won't listen to you or even run a simple blood test FIND A NEW DOCTOR. Don't let other people dismiss you when you know that there's something wrong! You know your body better than anyone else, don't be swept under the rug!

[@gabrielabatista6016]

Yeah, everyone in my family got pneumonia by the December 2019/January 2020 (considering symptoms and all we're almost sure it was some early non tested cases of covid on ou country), and me and my mom were misdiagnosed with chikungunya when we went to the doctor (even though we both had problems breathing as an early symptom and my mom was coughing liquid when she went to the doctor), my mom almost died because when she went to another doctor to get a second opinion and got the correct treatment it wasn't soon enough and she had to be put into an induced comma and breathing for a couple weeks; how can a doctor overlook coughing liquid as a symptom is beyond me

[@KlearlyIMme]

Some ppl don’t have a choice due to insurance and what’s available around them unfortunately

[@mariosblago94]

@@gabrielabatista6016 frankly speaking, diagnosing is THE HARDEST skill to learn for any doctor. It requires a lot of knowledge and constant researching. Very few doctors have high accuracy; most just make ok approximations that get better with time.

[@tavrosnitram1529]

@@KlearlyIMme beat me to it my friend is stuck in this position, i think thankfully her bf is getting different insurance so that they can go elsewhere, but they were stuck with a shitty one and couldnt afford to do anything different

[@tavrosnitram1529]

@@mariosblago94 thats why its always important to be as thorough as possible, but allot of these doctors barely did anything

[@Curmett]

Some braniac seriously went to med school, just to diagnose people with needing a haircut.

[@stephaniehowe0973]

I have suffered for Depression for decades. I had gone in around 20, well its probably that bit of weight gain. I did get treatment later

[@dannyanderson2236]

Not to mention a haircut wouldn't do anything for depression either. Lmao

[@stephaniehowe0973]

@@dannyanderson2236 actually you will find that some people w chronic depression anxiety issues will get a Hair cut or dye it, when it's bad. It helps a little

[@misscyanic2484]

C's get degrees!

[@stephaniehowe0973]

@@misscyanic2484 Actually depending in the field they don't. Ironically in Cosmetology? Anything below 80? Is failing

[@seanhilton765]

why are so many of these, at least in my mind, dismissed as "Hysterical Woman, Plan: Ignore"? EDIT: Jesus christ I had no clue.... If i had the brains to become a doctor I would, just to make up for all the shitheads who've flat out ignored everyone who's replied with stories or explanations. This is seriously eye-opening to me, thank you all for showing me the goddamn privilege I receive because i've got a johnson and joeys. I said it before, but I had no clue it was this bad and this widespread. Thank you all again.

[@darkchipcharlie7032]

Because that's how we are treated historically. In fact, many symptoms (like ones predating a heart attack) are only the symptoms seen in men not women

[@stephaniehowe0973]

Because that is what it is like for us

[@morgainnejade]

@Andrew Simpson well, with the attitude of 'nothing can be done', you're certainly on track to maintain a shit status quo that DESERVES to change.

[@KryssLaBryn]

@@morgainnejade "I won't accept the things I cannot change; I'm changing the things I cannot accept."

[@wmdkitty]

Because that's exactly what's happening.

[@jacobkohr7243]

I could forgive a misdiagnosis if it was an honest mistake, it's the condescending a-holes who take one look at someone and label all their problems as stress (as if stress ISN'T a life threatening affliction when it starts to manifest in physical symptoms, something someone who has been through freakin med school should know from empathy alone) and then just dismiss them that get under my skin. Or rather I'd wish they would spend more time going under people's skin to see what the problem is.

[@ericb3157]

reminds me of a story where a kid nearly died because a school nurse thought a kid having an asthma attack was "just having a panic attack" and TOOK THE KID'S ASTHMA MEDICINE AWAY FROM HIM! his mother later said sarcastically, "yeah, he was panicking BECAUSE he couldn't F***ing BREATHE!"

[@aishwaryasudan1290]

I'm a doctor and I don't understand why a doctor would not consult a psychiatrist on a diagnosis of anxiety or depression. We are literally not qualified to make that decision. Why not ask a specialist and rule it out, if it really is one of your differentials .

[@Dragonmoon98]

Need we bring up the "you're depressed go get a haircut" dickweed

[@jacobkohr7243]

@@aishwaryasudan1290 If I had to guess, I'd say that arrogance plays a big part in it. As an aspiring scientist myself I've had many a conversation with an older retired gentleman in my field of interest. One of the best pieces of wisdom he gave is and I quote "the problem with being labeled a "world expert" in something is that that tends to bleed into other areas".

[@saturnsaliens]

I went to my doctor vomiting with the worst damn abdominal pains I’ve ever felt in my life. She took one look at me and said “stress” and sent me home. My blood work came in for a whole other thing I needed. It was my liver.

[@sebastianmaker6798]

My first doctor: "He's being a little bitch about his feet hurting. He should get more exercise and then he'll stop complaining" My second doctor: "Let's do an x-ray" *some time later* "So his bones in his ankles and feet are totally warped and he needs custom orthotics as well as daily physical therapy. All sports need to stop right away until he improves, he has extreme strain on his ankles."

[@entropy8634]

Lawsuit and get that bag.

[@no-ci9rp]

Lawsuit!!!! that first doctor was trying to be lazy and make an excuse to not do work.

[@ananyagupta3917]

I hate when doctors tell you youre fat and thats the problem. I ended up exercising when I shouldnt have and now have permanently damaged knees.

[@mysmirandam.6618]

@@ananyagupta3917 thats what my docs say to me its like i thought you were still supposed to help people as a dr. even if they're overweight???

[@kerriann04]

I am constantly appalled and amazed at how doctors feel it is 100% acceptable for a woman to be in excruciating pain at any point in her life. A man and woman presenting to the doctor with exactly the same pain symptoms: man gets tests and imaging, blood work, etc... woman gets told it's either stress or hormones. Absolutely pathetic.

[@Starsk25]

Or, it's just period pain. Every woman has it. 🙄 Not every woman has endometriosis. Birth control pills can help manage severe periods. I just had to suffer through it.

[@jamie1602]

The women in my family were told this sort of pain was normal. It was my GP who looked them in the eye and went "No one is supposed to be in this much pain ever." The 90s had dumb rules of putting people on birth control, but we could give a ten year old with severe ovarian cysts a bottle of percocet.

[@a_diamond]

Had a doctor once tell me "If you were a man, I'd say you have a stomach ulcer." and gave me a bottle of antidepressants. Good thing women are immune to stomach ulcers, phew! >:( (Yeah, I had a stomach ulcer, I went to a different doctor..)

[@sunflowle2204]

that's why I am so much more comfy with having a female doc

[@johnnyguillotine1673]

My specialist can no longer practice after the shit he pulled. I've got nerve damage due to a speeding drunk driver (100+mph) hitting me head on... The specialist kept making notes (Poor, Muscular, Long Hair,Holes in knees of his jeans) instead of writing down things I was explaining. Went to a different specialist that wanted a few tests, Guy had needles from toe to crotch in my legs hitting me with 50,000 and I felt nothing. He stands up excuses himself and he said "this won't take long" his face was red. He left out the room, I chair hopped to the door and opened it and I could see him screaming at the phone. Instantly my phone starts ringing. They said they had a pain script waiting for me in the other specialists office for me and that if I wanted another test that they'd do it freely, red faced doctor handed me a well printed note which told them which tests I needed. They agreed, day of tests red face is standing there waiting on me as specialist acts sheepish. They hang me up and insert the needle to my spine and specialist said angrily "This will hurt" jabs it in hard. Soon as he did Red Faced mad specialist starts screaming again. They put the iodine in and flip me over. My nerve damage was so serve that all I can feel is burning, stabbing from ice daggers, at the time couldn't walk at all. Come to find out my angry specialist was a well known person with books in his field and how 1st doctor was a idiot that caused more damage than helping. 1st doctor was hit hard by the medical board and his licences was revoked. He was a spoiled rich kid anyway.

[@beagleissleeping5359]

I knew someone who was told the reason their toddler was turning yellow was because he was eating too many carrots, despite the fact that this "doctor" was told the child couldn't eat anything without vomiting. It was liver failure. Luckily they found a better doctor and he is fine now.

[@softly.blooming]

ugh. my dad actually had that happen to him as a baby, turning yellow/orange because of carrots, but if the kid CANT EAT ANYTHING, then it’s obviously not that i hate stupid docs

[@gingermackerel7068]

The fuck? Eating too many carrots turns you orange, not yellow. Idiot obviously didn't do any kind of chemistries or he would've seen the high bilirubin and liver enzymes. 🙄

[@Starsk25]

Someone can recover from liver failure?

[@beagleissleeping5359]

@@Starsk25 Over time, conditions that damage the liver can lead to scarring (cirrhosis), which can lead to liver failure, a life-threatening condition. But early treatment may give the liver time to heal. Mayo clinic link. www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/liver-problems/symptoms-causes/syc-20374502

[@Junebug00000]

My mom went to the same doctor for half a year, complaining of stomachpain, loss of appetite and generally feeling like crap. He told her it was just hemorroids (excuse my spelling) and penopause (she was 50). After 6 months of this, her pain got so bad she thought she was dying. Got to the hospital and had an emergency surgery to remove tumors and parts of her colon and her uterus. She was hours away from dying, from a total blockage of the colon, which was about to rupture. We got to have her with us for another 3 years, before the cancer ended her life. What happened to the first doctor? Nothing at all. Women... why believe them, when you can blame everything on their reproductive organs and age? He got away with it, even though her symtoms were clearly more than menopause and hemorroids. She died 17 years ago and i'm still pissed off.

[@atgc47kd71]

Not all doctor follows proper diagnostic criteria and this symptoms are very vague a lot of disorder has similar symptoms. And should be charged for professional negligence.

[@andrewstoll4548]

I hope more women hear these stories. Condolences about you mom.

[@bossladysj]

I'm so sorry about your mom.

[@sirfailalotful]

Even 17 years can’t heal some wounds. Really sorry for your loss.

[@XxDrJewxX]

As a doctor myself, how the fuck does someone get to a hemorrhoids diagnosis from stomach pain???? Since when do hemorrhoids cause stomach pain and loss of appetite? Those symptoms are not even close to the diagnosis given. That doctor was an utter idiot.

[@morgansheepman2403]

This ask reddit is a malpractice lawyer's wet dream.

[@tavrosnitram1529]

if only every one could afford to actually get a lawyer, this type of stuff happens so often that you could listen for months on end to these situations

[@AltruisticWarrior]

@@tavrosnitram1529 there are pro bono lawyers when a case is pretty clear cut. OBGYN in particular get the shit sure out of them often even for things like pre-eclampsia which is now linked more to the mothers diet than anything else. I used to do credentialing and needless to say that outside of Florida, doctors don't have to carry malpractice insurance there, doctors MUST have it and at a minimum it's 1 million per incident and 3 million overall in the case of multiple incidents. This is partly why more doctors work for large corporate groups, far less hassle to worry about managing insurance and the high cost of malpractice coverage and so on. Sadly doctors won't spend quality time with patients under those settings generally.

[@turquoiseninju7]

I got to get my mom in on this!

[@theloverlyladylo9158]

My dad actually did malpractice law- he worked for the VA defending the hospital when people sued, and he would be so pissed at any of these. Doctors who blow off standard tests for idiotic reasons have no legal defense, so if any of these landed in front of him, he’d be going straight to settlement. The standards are standard for a reason, and it’s legal ass-covering.

[@KnakuanaRka]

✨w✨ $w$

[@fernandaduncan6002]

I just imagine every story ending with "and then I threw a lawsuit at them so big they live in a cardboard box now"...

[@gasp8372]

Oh I wish. Some of these doctors don’t know basic stuff like looking at the paper to see the results and actually put their bias away to diagnose the patient properly. I myself have some prejudice against people but I don’t like disrespecting them because I don’t like the way they live life

[@awsomelyodd3184]

I wish. However if the hospital is big they can protect even the most scummy docs and actually destroy families who sought their help in the 1st place. One case a lawyer flat out told his clients "you are a young interracial couple from a small podunk town going against a well respected hospital in a big city. Time to cut losses." Its total f'd up b.s.

[@theMoporter]

Medical malpractice is hard to prosecute without some egregious fuck up, it's expected that doctors can make mistakes. It's a whole lot of paperwork for a victim to go through, and not worth the time if they're terminal. And besides, they probably ARE a hysterical woman /s

[@ShylieKay]

My oldest brother had migraines all through his youth and they became steadily worse in adulthood. Their dr refused to send him to MRI or CT. Later on, he passed out and was life-flighted to a large hospital 2 states away after a huge tumor had exploded in his brain. The new drs conferred with his original dr and the first dr lied his ass off and said the patient & his wife had turned down an MRI. Right in front of bro's wife. She just about had him fired. 🤬

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

A Doc' ever lies like that in front of me he'll wish he hadn't for whatever seconds he's got between the window and the ground... I promise that sh*t won't practice NO G** D*** MORE! ;o)

[@morgainnejade]

She *just about* had him fired?? How on Earth did *anyone* in that situation think that doctor should have continued practicing?? Even IF that was a 'one off' case, it was a lifelong one! Are you fkg kidding me?? That's probably one of the biggest reasons this world is such an absolute 10 ring shitshow of a nuclear dumpster fire, because so called 'professionals' go around casually ruining lives right & left, & are never held accountable!

[@ShylieKay]

I was a teen and don't remember what came of it, but it was all I could do to let the asshole live. 🤬

[@gingermackerel7068]

Since you know who it was and they are still practicing, drop your story on their healthgrades page as a review. People need to know how dangerously stupid and arrogant he is.

[@SendarSlayer]

I hope "just about fired" means he was stuffed into a cannon and they lit the fuse but it didn't actually fire him.

[@ashleyn.9166]

I recently had a doctor say: "A feeling isn't a diagnosis. Tests always have to be done to confirm." I love her now!!!

[@ESwift-Arts]

My local hospital misdiagnosed my sister’s acute liver failure as the flu and psychosis and almost killed her. The “psychosis” was her brain being poisoned by all the toxins in her body that her liver couldn’t break up and from the dying liver itself. She was 12. She’s doing okay now but throughout the years of going to the hospital and er with different symptoms and complications there has been a common theme of her issues being dismissed as hysteria, and my mom being accused of being hysterical as well, when there were legitimate medical concerns that doctors just didn’t want to bother with. It makes me sick.

[@hellowendy1029]

See, the stories about the liver misdiagnosis truly astound me, because how can you not see jaundice?!?!

[@mmmirei]

There is a long LONG history of women being dismissed and just diagnosed with Histeria when they feel not normal at all. Thankfully, that is starting to change, but we clearly still have a VERY long way to go. I hope your sister is able to recover.

[@PaiSAMSEN]

Okay, ex-med student here.... ....how the fuck someone misdiagnosed an acute liver failure as a fucking flu? I can "understand" a lot of stories, such as mistake an early stage cancer for some mild inflammation, but this is ALF, for crying out loud, one of the disease with probably the most obvious symptom to ever existed.

[@AmyHoldaway27]

How in the world are they still blaming crap on hysteria?? I thought that time had ended a while ago 😱😤😢

[@WobblesandBean]

These stories make me so, so angry. These doctors should be stripped of their medical license.

[@asserm.8047]

damn u should study medicine then, since it comes so naturally to you

[@bleddynwolf8463]

@@asserm.8047 extrapalate

[@randomboi346]

@@asserm.8047 idk telling a patient to go get a hair cut seems pretty bad

[@kyle18934]

A ton of these are not like small diagnosises, these are major mess ups that should have been dealt with. I had a surgeon miss read an xray of my broken femur, it had broken, dislocated from the hip and the ball rotated. He didn't check and did a relocated it backwards with 2 screws... it broke and caused 2 years of hell with my hip ball slowly rotting in my body until I was old enough for a hip replacement. Even better right after it rebroke because 2 screws can not hold a broken bone attached backwards in place. the hospital sent me away because it's only pain from the surgery. So no a simple mis diagnosis and then insulting your patients should not be taken lightly

[@NotMe-rs8ev]

@@asserm.8047 most of these doctors were very unprofessional, like someone comes in saying she is tired after even taking a bath and you tell them to get a haircut

[@oregondrivingadventures7506]

I am a retired in home health provider. I had a client that was very large. His head touched the headboard and his feet hung off the end. He was not fat, he was all muscle. He also had a hip replacement that had been removed so he was almost totally dependent. I had to turn him several times a shift, but he couldnt help. I had to turn dead weight and he was 350+. I developed a tendon injury in my left arm, but it turned purple and cold. It hurt to the extreme, way more than an injury like that should have. My hand was cold and numb too. I went to the ER and was told I had somehow done this to myself to get drugs! It took 7 years, I cant remember how many doctors and tests to find out I have RSD/CRPS. Thanks for nothing Dr. Wendler at St. Anthony's Hospital.

[@johnsmithfakename8422]

I remember hearing someone say "In the world, there is the world's worst doctor. The scariest part is that that doctor still has patients." I think we found a few contenders.

[@gentlegiants04]

I have a friend who is a retired nurse. One of her sayings is, "remember, someone had to be the last/lowest scoring in the class."

[@johnbelli9390]

"What do you call the person who graduated in last place from medical school? Doctor."

[@katie_cant_compute]

Honestly this happens often enough that a big system change needs to be done. We can't have people with serious medical issues basically have a 50/50 chance of getting help based on if they get a competent doctor or not. They should ALL be competent.

[@Fiery154]

Physicians have a narrow band of competence. There is simply too much for one person to know. We need a better system for referrals to specialists and training on when to refer to specialists

[@20coolkat]

Unfortunately it’s not even a 50/50 chance of getting a competent doctor who doesn’t have an attitude and who will listen to you before jumping to conclusions and either throwing pills at you or taking all the meds that do you good away. As a chronically ill person the chances of running into a genially kind/good and competent doctor is 30% at least that is if you are a woman and are chronically ill.

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@Fiery154 Knowledge is not the same as competence.

[@Jacob-xs5yu]

That’s why they go to school so I’m assuming it’s just doctors that don’t really care bout helping people and just want to get the person out of the office so they can get done wit the day so nah they need to be held accountable start speaking up for urself and tell them u don’t think they r right

[@brigidtheirish]

Doesn't help that it's barely been fifty years since doctors were practically considered gods who could do no wrong. And not much longer since it was standard accepted practice to just prescribe sleeping pills to every woman regardless of what her problem was. That's *still* a thing with some doctors, by the way. Seems like every time I see a doctor and mention 'fatigue' in my list of symptoms, the first and *only* thing that's suggested is sleeping pills.

[@howdabowdix]

When I was a kid, a DERMATOLOGIST told me my isolated but swollen, oozing rash was psoriasis. My dad called BS and stormed out with me. A GP later figured out it was an allergic reaction to the nickel in my belt buckle. A few weeks later and ever since, my rash is gone. Several years ago, I drove myself to the ER because of extreme, acute abdominal pain. The doc conducted only a blood test, told me I had an ulcer, and prescribed Prilosec and abstention from soda. Weeks of agony later, I went to a doctor at a small family practice who figured out within five minutes that my gall bladder was the problem. An ultrasound revealed a gallstone the size of a golf ball. Surgery recovery was very rough, but if I hadn't gotten a second opinion, I would have suffered an excruciating death.

[@Vessecora]

Dear God how did you drive yourself with a golf ball sized gallstone? I have one that's the size of a dime at the moment and I wouldn't have trusted myself to focus on driving when I presented with an attack!

[@howdabowdix]

@@Vessecora In retrospect, I wasn't thinking clearly and probably shouldn't have driven. The pain got progressively worse on the way there, and it started affecting my vision right after I arrived. It stopped on its own a few hours later and came back every other day or so until the surgery.

[@kneelingfish437]

Yep with the gallbladder, literal same thing happened with my mom

[@Just1Nora]

Ulcers are almost all caused by H.pylori bacteria as well...to properly treat an ulcer you need the proper antibiotics. So you had a shit doctor regardless of which condition you had.

[@wiktoriaszweda2278]

The brain cancer one made me want to cry as my mum also had to deal with that 2 years ago. She kept losing her balance and would get awful headaches but her GP wouldn't do anything about it, she went there to ask for a scan referral like 6 times. Eventually she decided to do a scan privately. She had a 10cm meningoma (brain tumour). She had surgery 3 weeks later. If she hasn't taken initiative herself she'd be dead right now. She also had to recently have another very invasive surgery in the same place because it turned out they did the first surgery wrong. It usually takes 3 months to heal from brain surgery, a year and a half went by and she wasn't feeling better. She kept telling her doctor (same one) something was wrong but he was treating her as if she was overreacting and that she just didn't want to go back to work. She went to the GP and asked a doctor to feel her head wound. The doctor felt something off and sent her for a scan. Turns out one of the screws was installed wrong and broke off, leaving the skull unsupported. At that point it was nearly 2 years since her first diagnosis. The screw was fully absorbed into her brain and covered in muscle and nerves. Shes thankfully ok now and doesn't have any major side effects. But she lost nearly 2 years off her life and was forced to live off of gov support just because a doctor refused to believe a woman knows what pain feels like. She has issued a complaint about it but the hospital refuses to accept anything was done wrong.

[@lenasamzelius5530]

I'm so sorry for your mother. She should have changed doctor when he kept refusing the initial scan, but hindsight is everything. She was smart to get the scan herself, but should not have needed to! Also, what makes this even worse is that the doctor seemed to not learn from his mistakes. Please tell me she has changed doctor now!

[@wiktoriaszweda2278]

@@lenasamzelius5530 unfortunately there is only one neurological ward in my whole country (Wales) and they even get patients from England sometimes. There's only like 7 doctors there and they are almost always busy. Honestly this is one if the only reasons I can somehow understand why my mum's doctor didn't pay my mum as much attention, it still doesn't excuse him. She has swapped doctors at the gp and the new doc is very attentive. Thankfully she doesn't need to go see her that much anymore. I appreciate you asking, hope you have a good day :)

[@gentlegiants04]

@@wiktoriaszweda2278 Why didn't she sue for malpractice?

[@zachar_]

A nurse mocked my 8 y/o brother saying it was imposible that his side was hurting so much, she sent him home and said it was just abdominal pain, that night my brother almost died and had to be rushed for surgery, the first thing the surgeon asked was “Why the actual hell didn’t you bring him sooner?” What was a common appendicitis ended up being a life-threatening peritonitis. Needles to say I haven’t forgotten that nurse for that

[@stinkyrattie]

Omg same when I was like 10! Went to the ER due to extreme abdominal pain and this asshole doctor tried convincing my mother I was about to have my first period and was being over dramatic! I was admitted after mother refused to leave, and after over 24 hours of this dr just halfassing everything, not looking in to any tests for anything but stuff that could prove a menstrual cycle, a 2nd dr comes in just to take a look and just.. presses my stomach, goes pale and boom I'm in emergency surgery 20 minutes later. Apparently he could feel my appendix with that one press and it was like twice its size. 24 now, and this actually reminds me I need to go get the scar looked at as its been itchy and some bumpy rash has suddenly appeared 😒

[@user-ve5nn3sq3t]

My dad had a "fatty liver" and the GP claimed it was because he consumed too much alcohol. My dad was a truck driver and could obviously not drink. He constantly had issues with his stomach area, eventually went to a private doctor and had done all the tests. Turns out that he had a neuroendocrine cancer at stage 4 which spread everywhere. Died 3 months later. I am still mad as he could of still been here only if the GP listened.

[@NotMe-rs8ev]

I’m really sorry for your loss. I feel like you have every right to be mad at such ignorant doctor.

[@hanbyeol12]

RIP to your dad my man I don't wanna sound insensitive, but shouldn't that be something worthy of a lawsuit?

[@lenasamzelius5530]

Report the doctor! I am so sorry for your loss.

[@kneelingfish437]

That's sad. I would have sued

[@Cherrykins]

that is AWFUL, poor thing ☹️

[@Marikioable]

First case. "A nonproductive cough" Right. Okay. "Night sweats" Okay. Trouble sleeping" Okay. "weight loss" with a prolonged illness. Okay?. Symptoms getting worse. That's not looking okay.. Lymph nodes swelling. NOT Okay. I was a nurse. I would have immediately called for tests for cancer at the roundabout "weight loss with a prolonged illness" part.

[@Starsk25]

Sounds like TB

[@Marikioable]

@@Starsk25 It does. Admittedly so. (In maybe the first two sections) But nonproductive cough. That could be anything. Night sweats. That could be what you have eaten or drank the night before. Trouble sleeping. Is very common. Weight loss with no real cause. It could be many things but is not as common as most people think unless they have gone on a diet and changed a specific part of their lifestyle. Weight loss with no change of lifestyle. And a prolonged illness. That really is not a good sign. (This is where I would get scared for my patient)... I could be wrong. (Of course) but most likely I'm not. (WE. As REAL medically trained staff have to look into that deeper) Lymph nodes swelling? Never a good sign. (WE. As REAL medically trained staff really need to look deeper, still.) @Starsk25 Please don't post your inane opinion online unless you know what you are talking about. You are quite simply a fucking idiot and you are hurting (Maybe even killing people) with your uneducated opinion. I beg you, please, don't reply. There really is no need. It's clear from your first comment that you only took the time to read the first couple of lines.

[@phils4634]

@@Marikioable Quantiferon gold will sort that one out nicely, but only after a plain chest ap view to see what's going on inside (which will also provide additional info, inevitably justifying a chest ct with contrast which'll justify the Quantiferon assay) :-D

[@Marikioable]

@@phils4634 Did you find that out by looking up Wiki? Please be quiet, unless you can really prove what you are talking about. TB and its symptoms are very easy to diagnose through an x-ray, etc. (We've been doing it for years) Although, admittedly, TB is still scary, and can (and most likely will) change. We are talking about "second opinions" here on this thread and an individual's right to have the choice to look for that second opinion. There are sometimes we can be wrong. That is why we look at all options. To, at the very least, make sure we are not wrong. The evidence of an individual's symptoms really can point one way or another... BUT, if there are other outlying symptoms, we, of course, have to look into those also and do our very best to get the correct diagnosis for that individual patient. Please don't reply to me. There really is no point arguing.

[@truli91]

@@Marikioable TB is not easy to diagnosed. What are you talking about? Pulmonary tb can look like anything. Only miliary tb has a typical image. You can have renal tb, liver tb, bone tb, and meningitis tb. Very difficult to diagnosed since you need invasive maneuvres for all of them. Also quantinferon has low sensitivity, esp if someone was vaccinated for tb. You may be a nurse but i'm a doctor.

[@josephtaub20]

There was a book many years ago called "The Making of a Psychiatrist" by a fledgling shrink. He described entering a new rotation; a elderly patient was listed as having hysterical hyperchondriasis for claiming her lower body hurt. When the patient walked in, the whole incoming group of residents and interns group exclaimed MY GOD!! This woman has a broken hip!!! It's been said, "You can always tell a doctor. But you can't tell him much!"

[@spacequeen8329]

Injuries, UTIs and gallstones in the elderly are dismissed way too often.

[@Fallenskyangel]

One resident I took care of was just looked over by a Dr a d said she had dementia . Another Dr came in,I took her to tge resident and she had a horrid UTI.

[@arlee8308]

When you go to the doctor ask them to explain how they came to their diagnosis. They should be able to explain how ALL your symptoms fit into the diagnosis. If not, get a second opinion. DONT TELL THE SECOND DOCTOR THE FIRST DOCTORS OPINION.

[@cgi2002]

You don't need to tell them, they already know as they have access to your medical records (they apply for them before accepting to give you an appointment).

[@arlee8308]

@@cgi2002 Not necessarily. Especially in the United States when you pay out of pocket for a second opinion.

[@XxDrJewxX]

We are able to explain how we get to diagnosis, in fact we have to explain how or why we think the diagnosis, thats just a regular thing we do, if you dont get one or dont ask for one or dont do anything and just accept what he tells you without needing an explanation, well that just makes you part of the problem too, some doctors are good but lazy, you are the one paying so do not get out of a consultation without understanding what you are having cause no one is going to be more interested in what you have but you, shame on my colleagues too for not doing this. But you are responsible for you too.

[@cgi2002]

@@XxDrJewxX informed consent is the term used for this. You can't really consent to treatment properly if you don't get a proper explanation of the process, the side effects, or any complications.

[@arlee8308]

@@XxDrJewxX well thank goodness we're hearing stories of how incompetent doctors can be so we can now educate ourselves. It's a shame some doctors can't do their job.

[@sparrowflyaway]

That one about the doctor refusing to give a virgin UTI meds until they admitted to being active just grates on my nerves, especially the bit about “nobody is a virgin at this age”. People are capable of holding off on such urges until they meet the one they want to marry. People are also capable of being ignorant of such urges if they aren’t educated properly about what they mean.

[@PanthereaLeonis]

Heck, some people don't even have those urges at all! What a mean doctor! He could at least have kept it to himself?

[@ettinakitten5047]

Also UTIs aren't usually sexually transmitted. By far the most common source of the bacteria for UTIs is from your own gut. Lots of bacteria are perfectly fine to have in your gut but terrible to have in your bladder. That's why you should be careful to wipe poop away from the urethra, especially if you have a clitoris instead of a penis.

[@JanMaynz]

I lost my virginity at 24, and it would've been later if my boyfriend hadn't been whining so much about his inability to get off without the actual deed... and encouraging me to try certain acts in preparation for when I did lose it... I regret not saying no... it just felt so good, though...

[@PalomaDreams17]

UTIs can also be caused by scented soaps and shit

[@glitchyglitchy3925]

I actually guessed some of the diagnoses from reading their symptoms. That doesn't make me feel better, that just makes me horrified that doctors ignore such obvious things.

[@ettinakitten5047]

The narcolepsy case I recognized immediately, and I'm not even a doctor.

[@kaylag6015]

It's scary how often doctors don't take women's pain seriously.

[@hayleyflowe5815]

That was my whole 2020 my doctor not believing my pain

[@hayleyflowe5815]

A few doctors actually

[@catspajamboree]

yeah we get diagnosed with hysteria or fat if we have any medical issues

[@kneelingfish437]

Yeah Uterus pains? Period You don't have cervical cancer, you just have a super long period, don't worry about it.

[@KoriMasho]

Yuuuup

[@XxTenshiChokoxX]

In my own personal experience as a black woman and if you're just like me...always, always, always get a second opinion because first time they might not be LISTENING to you at all.

[@lilz]

My mom was was at a rehab after back surgery and she started feeling really sick. The nurses said she had constipation and refused to look at her further. My mom texted my older sister who luckily for once looked at her phone and came down, she demanded they look further and when they wouldn’t she called for an ambulance. I forget what it is called but it turns out she had internal bleeding and by the time she got to the ER she went unresponsive. FORTUNATELY she survived. Spent three weeks in the ICU.

[@elisabethb.131]

A heart rate of 140 is not "a bit high". That's 'something's-wrong'-kinda-high.

[@jakecollin5499]

Lol that's like healthy running rate. That's more than double my resting heart rate and Im a bag of shit so idk how a Dr could say that.

[@jessicaheald5261]

I came here to say exactly this!! A sustained 140bpm needs investigation immediately!

[@rachelpleaseenteralastname879]

I had a bpm of 144 at a routine doctors appointment and I told them I have severe anxiety and when stressed out it can reach high 120s. they made me lay down, do deep breathing with one of the nurses, and when it didn’t go down they had me stay like an extra hour for an EKG. My mom was in the waiting room freaking out only for them to be like yup ur fine must be the anxiety lmao

[@F1areon]

I have SVT so for me heart rates in 100 or so are normal :P

[@Arien17k]

The last young Indian guy I saw (in the ophthalmology department btw) with a diastolic of 140 had malignant hypertension and we called the carriers to ship him ASAP to the ER ( btw he was in the ophthalmology dep because some other ophthalmologist told him had diabetic retinopathy... funny since he didn’t have diabetes 😩)

[@BlaqRubySun]

I feel like people should be able to sue for shit like that heart guy and the "get a haircut" woman

[@gentlegiants04]

They can sue. It's just that most times people who have already been through that trauma and sickness don't have the energy to even care, or they don't have the money, or etc.

[@jeffbenton6183]

@@gentlegiants04 Typically, a loosing defendant is required to pay the plaintiff's attorney fees, but I don't know the ins-and-outs of how much a person has to pay upfront for a competent lawyer.

[@redram5150]

I was having difficulty breathing during gym class. I believed my asthma, which had resolved in middle school, had returned. Fast forward to the doctor appointment. On top of verifying my asthma, he informs me that my heart is on the opposite side of my chest. I knew that wasn’t true, but didn’t argue. Fast forward a few months and the morning after my senior prom I wake up to an aching back. After breakfast the pain gets worse. I manage to get to the bathroom and find blood in my urine... a lot. It looked like fruit punch. I’m taken to the emergency room where I’m immediately X-rayed and taken to surgery. I wake up hours later with a very stiff back but feeling much better. Apparently I had a large blood clot floating in my kidney which blocked the ureter and prevented any waste passage into my bladder. Essentially it became a water balloon and thankfully the pressure was released before bursting. Oddly, the same doctor as before also specialized in urinary tract issues and handled this X-Ray and procedure. Fast forward a few months and I’m at the doctor for an unrelated issue. I offhandedly ask about going to a specialist to have a cyst on my collar bone removed. He agrees but says we should biopsy it first just in case. Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Stage three. We took X-rays and see my lungs are bring crowded by huge lymph nodes. They’re also in my lower abdomen. I was told this must have been incubating for at least a year and a half and I was right on the ragged edge before metastasis to my organs and bones. Yea, hindsight is 20/20, but how often does a doctor get multiple chances to survey a patient and ignore something as clear as that?

[@terraalbritton6405]

How are you now?!

[@itiswhatitis_842]

A doctor diagnosed me as bipolar. Gave me the highest dosage of Epitec possible & when my mental state rapidly deteriorated because of this, I saw another doctor who then said I don’t have Bipolar, but Anxiety & was shocked at what I was prescribed🤦🏻‍♀️Do y’all even learn the same things?

[@maegary8107]

I'm American American with high blood pressure they give us all the same meds for the condition well the meds that they give causes the potasem to leave the body and the other is to replace it or at least prevent it from depleating to the point of stopping your heart and at night I take what they call the good one.It protects the heart and lowers the pressure but they want bmp to increase the 2 that don't work .I like my doc.but I'm in the process of getting a new one .Because now she wants to treat a trigger finger and I know she can do some real damage to me if she Fs up and inject in the wrong place.GREED IS WHAT'S FING PEOPLE UP THATS WHY I RESEARCH .

[@AshesAshes44]

Oof, nobody ever really thought I was bipolar, but my GP had no more knowledge about anxiety and depression than I did (which was nothing). I got to spend more than a decade with my life falling apart before I lucked into a doctor that got me all fixed up, so to speak. I'm glad you're doing better!

[@morgainnejade]

Drugs. They all learn about drugs. And making piles of money from them.

[@destree6348]

As a nurse, my opinion is for the most part, yes they do. But how they use that knowledge along with very very big egos cause stuff like that to happen. My best advice is to ALWAYS listen to your own body. Only you know best about what your body needs. If you have a feeling something is wrong, with anything like the diagnosis or treatment, always get a second opinion. You'll never regret that peace of mind.

[@itiswhatitis_842]

@@destree6348 It’s just terrible right. Because how do you, as an undeducated teen know if you’re anxiety is due to your genetics or something that happened. My point is, when you’re mind is not sane it’s hard to not trust an individual educated in the mind who is seemingly sane. But the thing about the body, yeahhhh I do that and it has prevented me from getting seriously ill.

[@cama838]

So every time I eat fish or even touch it. I always get sick like runny nose, caught, hard to breathe and aftermath headaches. I go see a doctor because I googled my symptoms(I know bad idea lol) so it said anaphylactic shock. I’m a dishwasher so I get exposed a lot. And the doctor said I’m over reacting from stress. Even after explaining when I’m getting sick. I wanted to confirm if I’m allergic to seafood. But he said “you are stressed, you don’t seem to get classic rashes” then I asked the medical assistant in from of him. She said it seems like you are allergic to fish. Then I ask for another doctor. He quickly confirmed it anaphylactic shocks. And personally took the tests that same day.

[@fishlady7930]

Fiancé was having severe pain every time he ate a few years ago but was stubborn and tried to tough it out. First doctor told him he was having dairy intolerance and should take lactase enzyme tablets, this did not sit right with me. It got to the point of even drinking water would make him very sick and took me begging to see the doctor, this doctor tries to tell him he is over reacting to how much pain he was in. I get him to go to a walk in ER he does in, and not even 5 minutes I have a nurse coming for me saying we have to go to another hospital for emergency surgery right now. His gallbladder had a stone the size of a gulf ball that plugged the exist to where it gut off blood supply, and was now gangrenous and possible spread to other organs. His scare is 23 inches long, almost looks like he was cut in half! It is scary was hell to have a surgeon talking to you and even see them appalled at what the first doctor said and found some weird medical anomaly and asked if he would consent to having it studied and preserved, fiancé response blissfully on drugs had the best quote, "Well I got no use for it anymore, might as well put it in a jar~"

[@kbo8029]

Stories like these make me understand the litigious American culture. So many of these doctors deserve to be sued.

[@Crazyasian123456]

Honestly, the biggest issue is that good doctors get sued over small things,and the bad ones get off scot freeze ayse they don't do anything. A good portion of these are just doctors so afraid of overprescribing treatment that they erred on the side of caution to the point of doing harm, or displayed incompetence, or both.

[@Duskdog717]

American culture is not "litigious". That is a smear that has been spread deliberately by corporations who want to discourage the public from holding them responsible for any of the injuries and accidents that occur due to their irresponsible cost-cutting measures.

[@BooksandBuns]

It ain't just America tho. I've got my fair share of shitty doc stories & I'm Polish, living in Britain

[@sethralavode9012]

So don’t complain about Americans wasting food. Gotta throw it away bc people will die if they get sick from free food.

[@kbo8029]

@@sethralavode9012 or get sued. Used to work at Starbucks and remember how much shit we'd throw away. Most of it we can't even give to shelters or anything because while Im positive (from experience) it's still good, unless they filled out a hefty release of liability we won't give it to any organization. Same with the grocery deli I worked at before that. Too many places got sued as a cash grab and would rather throw it all out.

[@camdensnyder8894]

When I was a baby, my intestine telescoped in on itself, leading to me throwing up everything that went into me, and generally being completely miserable. Multiple doctors dismissed my parents, telling them that it was just a simple virus, and would go away in a couple days. I suppose that was reasonable enough, except that the doctors continued insisting on that even after I had been sick for weeks with no change. Finally, a doctor in another state agreed that it was far from normal, and discovered the real issue. I had surgery to correct it, and within a couple days was completely back to normal.

[@Just1Nora]

Intussusception! Most common in dogs. Surprising you survived weeks without any loss of bowel. Very uncommon in an infant because it usually happens when one portion of the intestine tries really hard to push something stubborn through the digestive tract and then it ends up sliding into itself. Then it's stuck. Then body gets grumpy, lol.

[@syasyaishavingfun]

Whatttt can't believe our body just love to kill us.

[@TurtleChad1]

A turtle doesn't approve worst first opinions

[@jebediahgentry7029]

Ever thought about being a (what we call where I live) logger head snapping turtle? They are straight up savage

[@lemonoujia4534]

@@user-ml3hl6vr4t let people have their fun. No need to be rude to others online

[@evilturtle6767]

A turtle also loves you

[@evilturtle6767]

@@user-ml3hl6vr4t I LOVE YOU

[@wepti8753]

What did D say? He deleted his message

[@noecarrier5035]

That one about the mum with the cancer all over and the trucker husband is absolutely heartbreaking. That is something for the "proof against a kind God" folder, man.

[@bwill887]

That story is crushing. I don't think I could have stopped and forgiven the doctor before I took the doctor's license. In fairness, there was likely nothing that could have been done, but going out of your way to ignore the escalating symptoms is not something any doctor should do. I get some of these, the doctors have their experience work against them and make the wrong calls, but this one and the liver one are really unforgivable. They clearly ignored the symptoms, did nothing to help, and let the situation advance without any attempt to slow it.

[@LizButton2001]

The part that bugs me is, the husband wanted a divorce. While his Wife was laying there dying? Like, y’all made the vows “In Sickness and In Health”! And you just, “Oh, you’re sick and letting the house fall apart? I’m leaving then.” Like... what? But fr, that doctor needs to lose their job.

[@morgainnejade]

@@LizButton2001 apparently, a spouse becoming ill is among the common reasons for divorce. Sickening though, I know.

[@ugis_]

@@LizButton2001 omg right. That part angered and disgusted me so much 🤢🤮

[@bwill887]

@@LizButton2001 I didn't like that part either, although I thought it was more due to him walking in on a house that was falling apart rather than anything else. I don't know the sequence of events but it sure sounds like the husband took his wife to the hospital or a different doctor to get the diagnosis the evening he got home. I think it may have been something he said at the moment before everything became clear, at which point he sprung into action. At least, I am hoping that was the sequence of events. Poor woman, she knew something was wrong and the doctor kept minimizing her fears and ignoring her, while the brain cancer likely made it harder for her to fight for herself.

[@marycopeland4049]

As patients, we’ve been indoctrinated (pun intended) to believe health care providers possess the skill to diagnose/treat effectively. I’ve experienced some providers that make me curious as to how many times they took licensing boards before receiving a passing score or wonder where they ranked in their medical school class - upper 10% or lower 10%.

[@pennyforyourthots]

I mean, I'd argue that in basically every other country they do have those skills, doctors in our country are just give it a much smaller size tool set because most insurance companies want them to cost the least amount of money possible

[@boxorak]

But don't automatically assume they're all quacks. That's where you start getting anti vaxxers.

[@soniatellez5872]

@@boxorak I don’t think that she meant that, it is more of a feeling. If you don’t feel listened to or you see that the doctor is not even prescribing tests or bloodwork, etc. Then you should probably look for a second opinion.

[@ninab8187]

ok, my cousin’s boyfriend got misdiagnosed with leukemia. turns out he was completely fine. i can’t even imagine how traumatized he must be.

[@Ariplaygames]

Honestly in my experience a lot of doctors are like this. They think its always the first thing that comes to their mind and dont even bother propertly checking you. They basically just judge you and dismiss you. I dont understand why people that clearly dont care about others wellbeing become doctors...maybe to make money and feel better than everyone else? who knows...They should really regulate things so they have way bigger consequences when a patient loses their life or has their life greatly affected because they didnt care to check them propertly. Consequences so big that they always check cause they are afraid to ruin their own life if they dont do their job right.

[@gabrielbruce1977]

Oh boy! Let me tell you about my former family doctor because his opinions were ALL wack. He claimed I was "making up" the agonizing pain in my legs whenever I walked anywhere, turned out to be compartment syndrome so bad I was a few months from an emergency surgery to save my calves. Told me that my weight loss from anorexia was a good thing, while I skipped two of three meals per day and worked out for an hour minimum seven days a week. Told me I functioned too normally to be autistic, forcing me to find that specialist on my own. Prescribed me antibiotics that I turned out to be allergic to and then wasn't in the day I showed up to chew his ass out for it and demand steroids to curb the reaction before I ended up in hospital. I'm beyond grateful to have the doctor I do now.

[@Amy3422]

This is enraging. I'm so sorry!

[@gabrielbruce1977]

@@Amy3422 I had zero regrets hunting for a new doctor, lemme tell you!

[@aislinlindsay3950]

It’s scary that some people will pass this off as “well they’re human too!” They are, but when your profession literally holds people’s lives in YOUR hands you cannot afford to make mistakes, it’s scary to think that especially as a woman my health or my child’s health might not be taken seriously because of some idiot who thinks his opinion is law

[@AltheaKHaden]

Well, I have heterocromia and when I was born the doctor said that meant that I was going to loose my sight. One month later my pediatrician reassured my mother that that wasn’t going to happen at all. In that month my mother was so scared that I don’t know how she managed to not go to the former doctor to tell him off or punch him. Like, doctors shouldn’t know how eye’s color works? As now, I have glasses, yes, but almost everyone in my family has glasses.

[@morgainnejade]

Wow. I've known several people with heterochromia, and my daughter has it too; what a crazy bs lie to horrifically stress out a new mother with! That doctor definitely should have been penalized for such outlandish nonsense.

[@gabrielabatista6016]

Honestly, this doctor could have caused serious problems; I know a woman that thought her youngest daughter was going to die because she was sick and her dad scared saying it was way worse than it really and the baby was on the brink of death (he was exaggerating, you know those super dramatic people who are not really educated but are stubborn and always think they're right and all), and due to all this stress she stopped lactating; she had to buy formula for her months old daughter until she started eating solids because of these hours of pure stress

[@truli91]

Heterocromia is pretty unique and cool.

[@PanthereaLeonis]

*trauma induced* hereochromia could lead to vision loss in the damaged eye, but congenital heterochromia isn't a symptom of freaking anything! lol

[@kimberlyWard8152]

The fallopian tube one was horrifying

[@xtremefps_]

The one in the first/second line that was like "falling asleep standing up" I was like oh narcolepsy. When the first doctor told em sleep apnea I was like "wtf you're an idiot!" When the second doctor confirmed my diagnosis of narcolepsy and called the first doctor a moron, it felt so good. I'm smarter than a doctor 😂

[@PanthereaLeonis]

Really tired and so sleepy you'd involuntary fall asleep standing up? Yeah, that's not fucking sleep apnea!

[@BrokenHedgehog]

An incompetent pediatrician almost killed my sister when we were kids. Kept insisting she just had a bad chest cold. Well, she almost died in her sleep. One trip to the hospital later, we found out she had pneumonia in both lungs.

[@Local_Sperg]

Not a doctor, but as a baby I had some seizure-like attack and was hospitalized for some time. One doctor gave my parents the news that I was extremely likely to die or just spend the rest of my life a vegetable, so my parents had gone ahead and mentally prepared for that, to have to pull the plug on me or sth. But then a second doctor came by and told them I would be just fine, that the first doctor had read a couple things wrong and i would make a full recovery. And yeah, here I am today completely fine 19 years later ^^

[@elisabethfox1169]

My husband was having vision problems, losing his left peripheral vision and seeing ‘static’ all the time. The first ophthalmologist told him ‘get new glasses.’ The second ophthalmologist referred him for a brain scan. He died of stage 4 brain cancer in December.

[@hellowendy1029]

Oh honey I am so sorry ☹️

[@marialazar2878]

Omg this just broke my heart. I can't imagine how traumatizing losing a husband can be. I feel for you so much. I wish you all the best and I hope you find peace

[@midwestyle]

As a health care worker, there is a reason they say we make the worst patients. Like a mechanic who takes their car to another mechanic, we know the BS of the office. I say this as a warning: Know your rights as a patient! All because they get paid 6+ figures doesn't mean they always know what they are doing. If you feel something is wrong, speak up. And if they don't listen, find someone who will. It could truly be the difference between life and death or even of quality life.

[@TheUselessbuthappy]

I relate to that labor story. I'm on baby 4 and I also have VERY quick labors. With baby 2, I told them this and they waved me off... my son was born 3 hrs later and the doc barely came in in time (after they swore up and down I still had atleast 12 hrs left). With baby 3, I waited til last minute to go to hospital (which was only 2 hrs of labor) and gave birth 45 minutes later and went from 4 cm to 10 cm in 30. I know my body and my labors. I have to be at the hospital at the point that seems too early to docs (ie I cant follow the 5.1.1. Rule)

[@Incubansoul]

When House, MD gets busted down to the CVS minute clinic for a week as punishment.

[@LittleKittySilver]

As someone who suffered from years of UTIs as a child, the story at 17:30 really pissed me off. That shit sucks and can be brought on a bunch of different things. Mine where all the results of a allergic reactions a large range of everyday products people use. From soap, bathroom cleaners, laundry soap, fabric softeners and with toilet paper being the WORST offender. There some brands I refuse to touch because of how sever the UTI it caused was. I almost failed grade primary because i missed so much school because of all the UTIs.

[@softly.blooming]

I get very mild ones on a regular basis I think it was my soap but i’m not sure yet

[@LittleKittySilver]

@@softly.blooming Try drinking cranberry juice and having a bath in warm water mixed with baking soda as soon as the signs of one is starting. Baking soda can help neutralizes the acid in your urine which helps A LOT with the consist erge to go. And the cranberry juice has something in it to help treat and prevent UTIs. These two basic tricks help A LOT when i was a child.

[@softly.blooming]

@@LittleKittySilver Sadly I can't do baths cause I can pass out if I get too warm (its connected to my disability) but I will try the cranberry juice! Thank you!

[@LittleKittySilver]

@@softly.blooming If that's the case, one thing you could do is mix the baking soda first in warm water first until it's completely dissolved (you can do this in the tub or in a separate container.) Then add cold water until the bath water is luk warm or cool. And doesn't have to be a full bath, just enough that you can sit in. As long as the baking soda has dissolved first it will work. That or stick a towel in the freezer for several hours until nice and cold and have that draped over your back and shoulders while in the warm bath. That way you have something is actively cooling you off as your body warms up. A cold wet towel will also work. ^^

[@softly.blooming]

@@LittleKittySilver Oooooh! Thank you for the idea! I’ll try that next time :)

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

I-what A haircut???? Boi-how is a haircut going to help my depression let alone constant exhaustion? Wtf All these other stories are worse than this one but everyone else is talking about the others and this one baffled me in a special type of way. Just, your a doctor, the first time you do it and I come back in I'd be a wee bit weary of your competence. But a second time??? A third time??? How did it not cross your mind that it could be something else? No blood-sample no nothing? It's doctors like these that get people killed. And times like these where you need to drop and change doctors.

[@jeffbenton6183]

When I saw that, I immediately thought, "not only did this doctor misdiagnose the condition, he doesn't even know how depression works." Any competent psychologist knows that a patient doesn't get over depression from one nice day

[@SupremeInvigilator]

"He was then taken to a better hospital where he was pronounced 'alive'."

[@82dorrin]

*Patient has horrible exhaustion, jaundice, and obvious autoimmune disorder symptoms* "Doctor": Oh, you're just depressed! Get a haircut! That's a Doctor who needs to... not be a Doctor anymore.

[@spacequeen8329]

Doctor who had really wanted to be a barber.

[@lovelydolltime8006]

He'd be a better hairstylist than an actual doctor.

[@atricewarner5705]

Worse. Way worse. 🔥

[@superwoman6413]

I almost lost a kidney because my family doctor refused to see me again when I was complaining of severe pain two days after having me diagnosed with a bladder infection. It was really a miracle, that my coworker was married to an urologist and he told me that that kind of pain was not normal and got me an appointment with his wife asap. I went in three hours from the office to the hospital and got an op to clean the stone that was going to blow up my kidney in less than 5 hours

[@asserm.8047]

if the first patient mentioned all of their symptoms straight up i dont see how anyone could have missed that diagnosis... its even hard to believe due to how textbook it is, including several symptoms that are seen in a small percentage of patients, all at once. its not uncommon to see all the symptoms together, but then again, its almost like spelling out the diagnosis to anyone who'd hear it

[@gabrielabatista6016]

Honestly, the same thing happened to my mom, coughing liquid, problems breathing, fever, back pains, headache, the night sweats too, all the textbook pneumonia symptoms, plus it was holidays season, which; even though it's on summer where I live; has a boom in pneumonia cases do to all the work parties and family reunions and such; but somehow the doctor overlook all of this except the headaches and fever and diagnosed my mom with chikungunya (I mean, it's common on summer due to all the mosquitoes, but c'mon; how can you overlook breathing problems and a patient coughing liquids? The doctor didn't even listened to my mom's lungs, just took her temperature and that's it)

[@mysticpanckae8390]

I know someone who's husband went to the hospital complaining of severe head pain and was diagnosed with bronchitis. They went to a second hospital and he was diagnosed with a concussion.

[@gnu740]

Same with the lesion one. The man was a dermatologist, for crying out loud. I barely passed biology, and even I know wounds that won't heal are a common sign of skin cancer. For a dermatologist to go two years without ordering a biopsy is just criminally negligent.

[@ceciliabragg6844]

My 4 Yr old daughter was sent away multiple times because her nose bleeds were "normal" for children. Weeks, multiple visits and a torrential 5 hour bleed later She was diagnosed with rhabdomyosarcoma that killed her. Parents trust your instincts.

[@samanthafisher3308]

Oh my gosh I’m so sorry. That poor baby

[@Joe___R]

I have seen way too many doctors in my life and unfortunately the majority are so conceded that no matter what happens their first assumption of what is your diagnosis is always correct. It doesn't matter that only 1 of your symptoms match their diagnosis and the 100 others are shining a massive spotlight on the proper diagnosis they will just ignore the rest.

[@Benjamin1986980]

I can somewhat understand the ones where a doctor thinks something rare is actually something common. For every person with an eptoptic pregnancy, there are 10 with severe dehydration, as many with severe constipation, and as many with kidney stones. What gets to me most are the ones that are simple and unimportant, but are diagnosed as rare diseases that require immediate, devastating, and stupidly expensive treatment

[@gingermackerel7068]

Yes, but they are supposed to rule out ectopic pregnancy before diagnosing something else, since it can quickly kill the patient. All they had to do was a 3 minute pee test and an abdominal scan and they would've realized she was right. That was absolutely malpractice.

[@dreamcaught3876]

1:48 even if she was depressed.... HOW IS A HAIRCUT A PROPER TREATMENT???

[@PanthereaLeonis]

Apparently depressed people are depressed *because* they don't take care of themselves, like taking showers or getting their hair cut. It's literally the opposite. Sauce: I am chronically depressed. I know how this bloody shit works by now.

[@carmelafernando7823]

One of our college physicians prescribed paracetamol for my asthma.

[@LorenaGarcia-mp2zn]

I was prescribed that for what later was diagnosed as endometriosis, ans a few years later I was prescribed a pill used specifically for asthma (I don't remember the name of it) for symptoms provoked by a broken septum. 9

[@heatherhillman7280]

I have a friend, very strong family history of breast cancer. Her mother and grandmother both died of it before age 50. She was 48 at the time. She had a mammogram, they saw something, but told her to come back in 6 months. She immediately went somewhere else, she was in radiation and chemo with a surgery planned by the time she would have gone back to the other place. Needless to say, she had a very celebratory 50th birthday and is cancer free to this day! ❤ Scary how that could have gone had she waited.

[@CakeofRage]

so the dad came home to see his extremely ill wife and his first idea was a divorce.... bruh

[@ashleyn.9166]

Yeah, if I was her if be filing for divorce as soon as I could walk into a lawyers office. Who thinks anyone chooses too urinate themselves? No empathy.

[@caseyo5524]

Kind of something for my dog currently. He’s a chihuahua about 10/11 y/o & is currently having todo his 2nd overnight stay at the vet’s. He had asthma & was on steroids for about a year. He suddenly lost a lot of weight & his first vet told me no more steroids & his blood work showed he was diabetic. Ok. Got his weight back up but for some odd reason I couldn’t place, I asked my parents about switching vets because of some weird gut feeling. Fortunately, a family friend recommended her vet due to her dog being diabetic as well. I’m very glad she did because they found out his thyroids were off & I’ve feel like it’s just overall better for my aging guy. I took him in due to not eating for a few meals, which means no insulin, & some vomiting. Blood work indicate somethings up with his liver & they are tending to it. He was more alert yesterday then when he went in the day before & I was told this morning he was doing much better & his liver is doing better as well but they wanted to keep him overnight again since i assume his levels weren’t as good for a home release yet. I got my some questions of my own when I’m able to pick him up to come home about what’s needed. I was told yesterday when I went to visit him that it was a good thing I brought him in w/his blanket. He loves it & I can only assume by having that 1 thing is comforting & probably giving him some moral support.

[@SunlightHugger]

In one of my tech schools (USAF), a friend of mine had real trouble breathing during squadron exercise, so she went to the walk-in clinic. The officer seeing her said she was just fat (she has a large chest and is tall and wide) and to workout more. Well, her breathing got worse. We got permission to go offbase for a second opinion on a bad day, and the doctor there sent us to the ER. Turns out she had asthma, specific allergies on top of that, AND her abusive ex was at our squadron PT sessions so she was also super anxious. She's okay now and works the job we were in school for.

[@ablethreefourbravo]

Not a doctor, but my grandmother had a UTI in 2019. She went to her OB to get it checked out. The doctor told her that she had a perfectly healthy uterus for a woman who is nearly 90, and everything is exactly as it should be. My grandmother asked him if he was certain, or might want to double check. The doctor said he was quite sure. She asked him an extra time. The doctor insisted. My grandmother then said she's very surprised by his assessment, as she'd had a hysterectomy done in 1968.

[@Endonia-ym3sl]

Over the course of a week I was unable to move my right side and was in constant pain. The first doctor I saw said it was a silent migrain and prescribed me ibuprofen. When I collapsed on day seven it was discovered I had a brain tumor in my brainstem that had bled which caused all my symptoms. I then had ANOTHER wrong diagnosis of brain cancer when in fact the tumor was benign and I would eventually recover. I'm thankfully ok but but still angry that I was misdiagnosed TWICE!

[@user-ml3hl6vr4t]

One PCP I was assigned by an HMO was forever on my weight (at the time I was about 15# over weight. Not bad). I needed to exercise exercise exercise. He had 10# on me and was about my height. I finally got mad, stood up, turned around and lapped fingers behind back (one from below, one from above). Then without stretching faced him and brought my feet to my face one at a time. THEN bent down and scooped him up with arm behind shoulderblades and knees, walked over and put him on top of the exam table. Exercise? I was in more shape than he was. I lifted and carried more than my body weight. He hopped off the table, patted my stomach and said 'less of that'. I fired him, wrote a letter to the HMO and demanded another doctor. There is such a thing as 'fit but fat' (just checked for height and weight I carried at that time, other than a thick middle and a small bone frame I was still under 24 BMI) That doc just had a fixation on fat and I just carried a few extra on the front. If a doctor's entire 'what's wrong with you' centers on 'you're too fat' unless you're morbid, fire them in my opinion...

[@AiirxGeordan]

What the hell happened to the person who got the broken neck person’s X-ray images. Doctor must have come in like “your neck doesn’t LOOK broken, it I guess X-rays don’t lie”

[@DeathnoteBB]

I mean, yeah. If they got the wrong images why would they assume a clear picture is wrongv

[@katherinek2709]

Kid I knew went in to get his gallbladder removed. He had been in pain for months. Surgeon opened him up and his body was riddled with cancer and he died of a heart attack on the operating table at 16 years old.

[@melissahoneybee8493]

Godammit! That is both infuriating and incredibly, devastatingly sad.

[@Vikingwerk]

I am perpetually amazed with the fact that you can be given strong sedatives, have fairly major surgery to remove wisdom teeth, and then be turned loose into public while still high as hell on meds. Like, it seems really irresponsible the way they just yeet people out the door with a mouthful of gauze and doped to the gills and say "have a nice day."

[@CathyGoes]

Responsible clinics make sure someone drives home any patient that receives sedation. Some have a rule that the driver has to physically walk in and verify that they will be driving the patient home before doing the procedure.

[@noladavis5085]

My mum had the opposite. She went to her GP with back pain and thought she had a slipped disc. The GP used to specialise in Oncology. She diagnosed Myeloma, which was unusual as Mum was in her early 50s and its not a common cancer. Unfortunately it was terminal, but she lasted about 5 years. If it wasn't caught, we wouldn't have had that extra time with her. She donated her body to a Cancer research centre, so shes helping others in her position.

[@nosferatadentata965]

holy shit! you could easily make part 2 just out of the comment section

[@jeaniebird999]

My mom had a cat that got in a fight and had a small puncture wound on his side that just wouldn't heal. It was there for months. Mom tried keeping it clean but Tamale preferred to do it and it wasn't getting worse, it just wasn't getting better, either. But one day, when we were taking a closer look, mom noticed something... A TOOTH! Whatever cat he got in a fight with, lost one of his fangs in Tamale's side! A whole fang! After that, it healed right up.

[@jojol.2630]

Totally irrelevant, but I have always LOVED the name Tamale for a cat

[@jeaniebird999]

@@jojol.2630 His original name was Tres Santos because he was found on Tres Santos road, as a kitten, only a few weeks old. He had such a bad eye infection, that he couldn't open his eyes. My mom joked that he would have wound up as a tamale if she hadn't found him, so it stuck! He loved red enchiladas with onion! I thought that was the oddest thing for a cat to like. 🤣 RIP Tamale!

[@jeaniebird999]

I notice how no _doctors_ are answering the question...

[@PinkAgaricus]

Probably due to doctor-patient privilege...and if they do it, and against the patient's wishes they'll get in big trouble if the patient is diligent. That's probably why it's mainly patient's themselves or their family member sharing the story and not the doc.

[@Fiery154]

@@PinkAgaricus patient privacy and HIPPA don’t mean that the doctor (or nurse or therapist) can’t tell your story, it just means that they can’t attach your name to it (nor sufficiently specific information that someone could figure out that it’s you).

[@jeaniebird999]

@@Fiery154 Yes, thank you for pointing that out! *HIPAA (Health Information Privacy & Accountability Act - I used to deal with HIPAA for work)

[@babyfarkmcgee-zax3785]

HIPAA covers giving out identifying information, not talking bout cases period. I can tell you all day long about my suicidal patient that managed to slip out of their 5 point restraints and bit into the brachial artery in their arm to finish what they started. What I can't tell you is anything that could identify exactly who this patient is.

[@wendillon92]

That might just be because they have better things to do than hang out on reddit answering random questions

[@authormomma9542]

I was told that I wouldn't get pregnant naturally...my son is six!

[@hellowendy1029]

Aww that's a happy one!! I'm so happy for you!! ❤

[@a.minor.case.of.mass.hysteria]

When I was suicidal and committed around 12, I was “diagnosed” as attention-seeking because I said I was suicidal and also pansexual lmao apparently those things aren’t allowed to happen at once

[@HexenkoeniginVonAngmar]

Ah yes. How could you defy the laws crated by whomever it was that diagnosed you. It's not like someone who isn't a boring cis hetero like me could have depression or other problems. *cough* Hope you're better now :)

[@Starsk25]

@Shani Wilkins Ick. It's not irrelevant

[@Arlesmon]

@Shani Wilkins But that doesn't mean they should dismiss the suicidal part.

[@TiinkerBells]

@I love you!! First of all, sexuality is not a "choice". Secondly, sexuality is relevant when talking about mental health because, you know, systemic oppression and homophobia affect people's mental health??

[@Jiynxparadox]

Growing up in a society which shames you for sexuality tends to make a person depressed, but apparently your dr has no common sense to realize that. Also, ignore people saying it’s your fault for your orientation being mentioned in the first place, as you never specified how it came up, and you were 12. A 12 year old might bring this up if struggling with whether or not something is wrong with them like internalized homophobia, or it might have come up in a list of things that were hard on you, like “people are shitty about my sexuality and seeing that the world I’m growing up in is one that may never accept me contributes to my consideration of suicide as an escape from that world full of ignorance and hate” I mean... when a 12 year old says they’re suicidal people are bound to ask why, and lgbt+ folks tend to be depressed, especially when we’re young, in part bc of how our identity is treated. There are a number of reasons it would have come up naturally and not been ‘for attention’ Yikes

[@LexiconDisgr4ced]

When I was 13 I was having horrible body aches all over and couldn't walk properly. My dad called me dramatic and ignored it. I had a slight fever that was raising and I was anemic. All this started after a day of sore throat. We went to a community care after a ten days of agony and they told me it was just the flu, go take some antibiotics and it will go away. We get home and I cant even sit still without sobbing and writhing. My dad asks me to stop being dramatic. I still writhe and cry. He finally realizes I'm not faking and takes me to the ER. I get morphine and a bunch of tests. My fever had raised from 100° to 105° on my way to the hospital. Turns out I had Scarlet Fever all along and the sore throat was strep throat which had become Scarlet Fever. Finally got appropriate treatment and got my tonsils out to prevent any more throat problems. My dad felt horrible for assuming I was faking for so long.

[@diamondedge83]

When I was about 14, my dad hadn't been feeling well and went to see his regular doctor. He asked his doctor if he had Diabetes, but his doctor said he didn't, that he was just fine and to get some rest. A month or so later we were on vacation at a resort and my dad had a stroke and fell down a staircase. We took him to the hospital and the doctors there asked "did you know that you have diabetes?" My dad has a new doctor now.

[@videakias3000]

one time I spoke with a woman one the beach,if I recall correctly she had muscle muscle pains and her dumb doctor told her to start taking potassioum instead of magnessium,a few months later she went to take blood tests(I think she told me that she had some problems)and the tests showed too much potssium in her blood.

[@dannyanderson2236]

Lmao that's the best one. Like how could you mess that up? I think anybody who's worked out at least once knows you take magnesium for muscle pain. Again, some of those coctail vitamins often have potassium and magnesium, but you're still supposed to know which is which😂

[@hellowendy1029]

She's lucky she's not dead!

[@Lellowcake96]

12:20 my dad had similar symptoms, it was stage 4 throat cancer. He’s getting treatment now and doing well.

[@EmilyExplosion27]

I have a story and also the opposite of this prompt: 1. My grandmother had a series of strokes, so she was in the hospital and then a care facility for many months. She was a terrible patient. She yelled at anyone who touched her and refused to cooperate or move at all. At the care facility, they gave her sedatives at night because she would scream all night long. Turns out she had stage 4 bone cancer so everything did indeed hurt like knives every time she moved or someone touched her. They only found it after she broke her hip and the cancer spread elsewhere. And then she died 2 weeks later. 2. My mom was having some bad lady problems. She wanted to get back on birth control to help out. The nurse who was setting up her appointment on the phone told her to go to urgent care immediately. I left work and drove her. We were there for about 20 hours because, after four hours of waiting around, turns out she was moments from her heart stopping and needed a 3-bag blood transfusion. Thank you, nurse.

[@shadowdroid776]

Oh!! I got one!! These three make me mad! 1. My sixth grade math teacher called my parents in and told them she thought I was "retarded" because I finished her problems differently than she wanted me to. So I got tested for autism, guess who wasn't "retarded" and which teacher outright stopped acting like I existed as a person? 2. I have severe major depressive disorder. I've had it my entire life and showed clear signs of it since early childhood. The first psychiatrist I saw as an adult did a quick evaluation, and said he believes I was bipolar. I told him I wasn't, and that I was depressed. He asked me questions straight from the DSM-V (most up to date at the time) for bipolar disorder. I tested negative for it, but tested very positive for depression. He told me that didn't matter, I absolutely had bipolar disorder. He prescribed abilify to me, and that made me feel homicidal and suicidal. The next psychiatrist I saw was in the ER a month later, who told me I had depression, not bipolar disorder. 3. The newest psychiatrist I am seeing just told me she believed I was autistic due to me having gender dysphoria. I told her I was tested before and it was negative, she didn't believe me. So I had to take two spectrum disorder tests along with tests for depression and OCD. I tested negative for autism spectrum disorder again, but very positive for depression and trauma. She didn't even bring up her reasoning on the check up, just the results, almost as if she knew she fucked up majorly.

[@happypiano4810]

How does someone confuse autism for gender dysphoria? They aren’t even in the same group of disorders!

[@janapetercova6702]

I "love" when people guess what is the problem, then try to confirm their opinion and when presented with different outcome than expected they just ignore it. CSI tv series taught me to always follow the evidence, some doctors should learn how to do that.

[@ThunderStruck15]

@@happypiano4810 there’s a huge comorbidity with gender dysphoria and autism. But somehow I doubt it’s gender dysphoria causing autism and not the other way around. If it’s even a cause/effect issue at all.

[@FunSizeSpamberguesa]

I actually am bipolar, and abilify is fucking *evil.* A friend of mine called it a Dementor in a bottle, and she's not wrong. I will never understand prescribing antipsychotics to someone who isn't actually psychotic.

[@shadowdroid776]

@@ThunderStruck15 I'm not a doctor so I don't know, but I'm guessing there isn't a cause/effect or even a correlation, I think it's just more easily found in patients with autism compared to NT patients, who probably hide their issues more often. Ironically though, a friend of mine is trans, and her mother thought she was autistic when she was younger and kept her in LS classes because of it. She's not autistic, just epileptic, has ADHD, and is extremely anxious about everything. Her mom is a social worker and has *seen* kids with autism. How...

[@dylanrobbins7613]

I rushed my partner to A&E at 1:30am and the Dr said they had a UTI. That afternoon I rushed them to the ER and they ended up having emergency surgery cos they had multiple organ failure.

[@jeaniebird999]

I was misdiagnosed with cancer, once. When I asked the doc what the chances were of it not being cancer - because it hadn't been biopsied, yet, she was just going by looks - I expected her to give a percentage or say it was low, or something. But she throws her hands up and pushes her rolly chair back with a thrust and exclaims, "ZERO! I can tell you, (as she draws cells on a paper towel, in demonstration) it's either stage one, or two." I thought she would know what she's talking about, being a doctor and all... All I had to wait on was whether or not it was stage 1 or 2 and that would be "less than a week but they would call as soon as they got the results." No call after a week, so I call and ask. I'm told I'll get a return call but I don't. Long story short, two weeks later, I find out I don't have cancer, she was 100% wrong. I did get breast cancer a couple years later, but that was totally unrelated.

[@gingermackerel7068]

There is little chance of diagnosing stage 1 cancer because it is usually too small to have an affect on the body or show up on scans, as told to me by my oncologist. That lady is a quack.

[@jeaniebird999]

@@gingermackerel7068 Several months later, I was in seeing one of the head doctors, and I had asked him why the hell it was ok for her to do that. He seemed shocked but remained calm and professional, told me she definitely should NOT have done that, then went back to the matter at hand. She disappeared right after that. I have no idea what happened, but judging by the look on his face, his was extremely disappointed. He was everyone's boss. I like to think, he did the right thing and sent her packing. Those two whole weeks that I was certain I had cancer, were rough! It's not ok to do that, that's why doctors NEVER do! They might say it's low, or something, but never, "zero chance."

[@nothanks1239]

I have been misdiagnosed a couple of times. Both times I had a weird sense that what the doctors were saying wasn't right, but went along with it because "I'm not a medical professional". I'm honestly angry I was misdiagnosed, as there were consequences. Always trust your gut. If your doctor is palming your illness off as 'nothing' and you don't agree with it. State that you're not happy. Or get a second opinion. Don't leave it to chance! There are people who are terrible at their jobs everywhere! Some people lost the passion and don't care. A doctor will be no different.

[@bobthompson4319]

Kept going to the er for back pain weight loss nausea memory problems 120 bpm heart rate shortness of breath. I was told to leave the er because I was in opioid withdrawal and was addicted. Turned out I had sepsis and a uti and kidney infection and 6 kidney stones in the left and 5 in the right.

[@Kirjava88]

24:58 I am allergic to multiple antibiotics. Two of which happened near the end of the course. It often takes a few days for a drug allergy to appear because it accumulates in your body. It can happen anywhere from the 2nd pill to the last pill.

[@dancingcarapace]

The fact that about 90% of these cases are ‘Black and/or female: ignore them or gaslight them into believing they’re being dramatic’

[@shemac1482]

I never saw the races of people listed, and over a third of them were men.

[@billybobkumar9231]

From what my friends in the medical field told me, you are absolutely right.

[@Crystalelements182]

My brother was 15 when he started getting really sick (like stomach flu) and losing a lot of weight. He would be sick for about a week every month or so. Took doctors forever to figure out what was going on. One year and three misdiagnoses later, my brother started waking up feeling numb on parts of his body. Doctors dismissed it as sleeping wrong since the numbness didnt last long. One day he woke up and his entire left side was numb. Emergency MRI showed a massive blood clot in his brain. He had a stroke at 16! After lots of treatments and test, the doctors finally diagnosed him with PNH (basically causes his marrow to release blood cells prematurely and causing problems) and found another two clots by his stomach. After two years of meds and blood thinners, he finally had a stem cell transplant. He could have died if the doctors didnt figure out what was happening to him. Fast forward three years and he is doing great, going to trade school and happily married.

[@jovialchicken90]

"Why are you depressed? There's so much to be happy about!" -a doctor somewhere

[@jimajams7080]

My dr back in 1990 misdiagnosed my sister's 12 yr old best fried who had lumps in her scalp as cysts. He tried to lance the "cysts". She was dead within 3 months of that diagnosis.. When it was really Neuroblastoma. She died a month before 13th birthday. Terrible tragedy. Such a sweet girl.

[@weby113]

My favorite was before I was diagnosed with eczema lol I went to 4 different doctors because I was 17, no history of eczema but my face around both eyes had broken out in a horrible bright red, scaly, itchy rash. Kept telling me it was allergies or skin irritation. took an allergy pannel test and found I have damn near NO allergies but it took 4 doctors over almost a year for the last one to finally take a biopsy and look at me and my mom like "Well would ya look at that, it is eczema!"

[@Apav]

My dad was in so much pain he couldn't drive, pain would shoot down his arm and back. He couldnt sleep, and started having anxiety attacks due to feeling like he'd never be able to rest again. He was prescribed some heavy pain killers, which he refused to take after seeing other members of our family struggle with addiction to the exact same medication. But nobody had any answers for him other than that. Well, until a friend ended up recommending him to a chiropractor. After his first adjustment he was already feeling better. After a week he was out golfing with friends. It's insane that their practice isnt considered scientific or valued by mainstream doctors, they saved my dad from a life of addictive medication and back pain. Just because you numb the symptoms, doesnt mean you fixed the problem.

[@ThunderStruck15]

Probably because they do other things that absolutely aren’t scientific, like essential oils

[@poisonedflowers]

My mom was told that due to internal scarring from both a childhood illness and a molestation, that she would never be able to have a viable pregnancy. And she went till the age of 34 without even having a hint of possibly being preggo. The found out she was pregnant with me because she'd gone to the dr. cause she thought she had a stomach bug, turned out to be morning sickness lol

[@teddys5775]

My wife was diagnosed with gas, we went back and they threatened to admit her for mental health for being a hypochondriac, we went back anyway and she needed her appendix removed immediately