As a missionary long ago, we were told if the Mountain Meadows Massacre comes up when we were teaching a contact, "you shut your mouths, get them back on the discussions, or leave". It was that moment I realized that there is a lot of disingenuousness at work by the leaders and authorities of the church. People like Quinn and you guys, and so many others verify the lies that underpin the secret workings of the church. I thank you for this.
@juliehatch98617 ай бұрын
What is the Mountain Meadows Massacre? This is something I haven't heard about....of course😮😮 😮😮😮😮
@kennyowens41807 ай бұрын
Really!?
@amanda_weber17 ай бұрын
The quality and quantity of content from Mormon Stories lately is 🔥. So many important stories! Thank you
@katphyre7 ай бұрын
My mother often says, "Ad hoc ergo proptor hoc." Correlation does not equal causation. I had no idea it was a rare thing to say because I heard it a lot. She encouraged questioning everything...except the Mormon church, of course. She was at BYU about the same time as Quinn so make of that what you will. Thank heavens she saw the light about age 60 and followed 4 of her 5 children out of the church.
@Myzenlife657 ай бұрын
Same..... Im a 64 year old non binary lesbian. I feel this. Can't wait to read the book. I was exmo way before there was ever a community to offer support. So glad to see people come together.
@TracieAviary7 ай бұрын
I'm laughing and crying my way through this book, I was fortunate to meet DM Quinn, he loved hearing my drag stories.. doing shows on Saturday Nights to raise money for the HIV/AIDS Community then going to Church the next morning...wondering if I have any makeup residue still left on my face. Liquid eyeliner is impossible to remove! Lol Thank you for sharing MS! Big Hugs!
@larrygates24387 ай бұрын
Regarding Quinn not revealing to his soon-to-be wife of his homosexuality, many Mormon leaders would counsel men dealing with issues of being gay not to say anything to anyone about being gay, especially to a young women he may be considering for marriage. That is what I was counseled and I know of others given that same counsel.
@mountainman48595 ай бұрын
It was what I was counseled to do too. The stake president told me sex with a woman was so wonderful it would change me. So why scare her off? Thankfully I knew he was wrong and I never married. But plenty of men did. The church is responsible for many broken homes. Many suicides.
@markkrispin69447 ай бұрын
D. Michael Quinn was a true hero for being so honest and being so true to himself. RIP Mr. Quinn
@davewilson40947 ай бұрын
His book Mormon & The Magic World View changed my life. I found the book in the 1990s in a public library while browsing. If I only had 1 book to read for the rest of my life, this would be it.
@bodytrainer1crane7307 ай бұрын
Totally, it's a paradigm shifter.
@sarawilkinson-lamb36065 ай бұрын
My thoughts as well
@whitajeman7 ай бұрын
I've been looking forward to this episode since I saw the notification of its drop. Can't wait to jump in. The history of the church is a part of deconstruction that broke my heart (and I'm sure thousands more) I had already lost my faith before I dug into studying the history so I'm eternally grateful for MS and many others who are willing to discuss the uncomfortable history.
@whitesalamander7 ай бұрын
Much respect for this panel and for Mr. Quinn👏
@markcroshaw7 ай бұрын
Mormon Stories in the past year have been so fun and engaging. Keep up the good work!
@TheMormonAtheist7 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for this one. Love these shows.
@cherishcherish40837 ай бұрын
What’s it about?
@HermanFickewirth7 ай бұрын
WOW! ----What a great interview. I'm not LDS, but my best friend is. I have ordered this book as a gift for him. I am still a Bible believing Christian, and am saddened by how few who leave the LDS church discover a faith in Jesus Christ as Savior or a deep relationship with Him. It would be great to interview someone who has left the LDS church and found a new Faith elsewhere. Thankyou and I will continue to support your channel.
@bodytrainer1crane7307 ай бұрын
I am so excited to read this book. I honestly feel proud of D. Michael Quinn and the life that he lived. A wonderful human. ❤️❤️❤️
@ExmoRaymo7 ай бұрын
Love all this! What a remarkable human
@nirajjoshi35407 ай бұрын
I used to live near the Mormon Temple this channel is a great way for me to challenge those kids that try to recruit for the cult. Also I. Point it calls itself the Mormon Temple of Toronto and is in the suburbs. I've been there 3 times and was creeped out by how they all tried to recruit for MLMs each time too.
@robertderkach6507 ай бұрын
Brampton Temple
@alishabee3697 ай бұрын
This is such a cool episode. I am dying laughing sometimes with glee. I am totally celebrating a reckoning of the truth coming due. Yay!
@Binky.Dot.The.Clown.Persona6 ай бұрын
Always watching Mormon Stories because John is the only one who can put me to sleep.
@CatskillsGrrl6 ай бұрын
I was a student of Michael Quinn. I loved him.
@danielwesemann42057 ай бұрын
Excellent and interesting presentation. Absolutely priceless book.
@IvoneteMascara-nx6wz7 ай бұрын
Great show!!!! Thx!!!!
@mormonstories7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Zeett097 ай бұрын
In my youth in Utah in the 1970’s (I’m not LDS) the term Lamanite was used freely in conversation with my Mormon friends. Now it’s seemingly almost a taboo word.
@michelecraig96587 ай бұрын
I think what is so moving about this is his beautiful writing, deep thinking, and the self reflection of his conflict. I definitely want to read this book.
@debraallender74447 ай бұрын
Great episode! I am looking forward to reading this book. Its a lighter topic than many.
@sdfotodude7 ай бұрын
Awesome as usual
@amyanderson69047 ай бұрын
Good morning!!🎉
@cynthiaejiogu84427 ай бұрын
Just bought it! Will be reading soon!
@kentthalman44597 ай бұрын
The scholarship behind Magical World View has no peers
@clarestucki51517 ай бұрын
Never heard of D Michael Quinn, but his story appears to parallel the story of Elizabeth Smart's dad.
@derekbeauchamp24097 ай бұрын
Again another brilliant video, I didn’t know about Michael Quinn when I was in the church, but when I was on my mission in the Arcadia California mission, from 1980-1982. One Saturday when we had a get together for our missionary meeting. Some return missionaries came to it. And told us about “ Adam god doctrines” and that god came down to Mary, to bring about the birth off Jesus. So we had two stories about the church. I was offered a very large book , which to us , was anti Mormonism. But we didn’t take it. Wish I did now ! These guys we’re going around every district missionary meeting on Saturday morning. So everyone got to here about it. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing, I was confused. Four years later my and I left the church.
@nmutant7 ай бұрын
I recommend!
@captainwumbo76297 ай бұрын
Hey everyone 👋
@briansmith77806 ай бұрын
Could someone please bring me up to speed on who the Tanners are?
@SR-bw3sc7 ай бұрын
At apprx 1:03 per historical church leaders "that knew" things: see EXCELLENT Mormon Stories episode with historian Shannon Caldwell Montez. 👏
@TalismanianDevil7 ай бұрын
Another great show. Thank you. Regarding information about post-manifesto polygamy, contact the LDS Family Search Centre, in Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada. Also contact the Lethbridge Public Library and the Cardston Temple Archives. Utah polygamists came to southern Alberta in the late 1870s to continue the practice and settled at Aetna. They evaded joining confederation until 1905-when there were finally enough non-LDS settlers to outnumber them. Some relocated to Bountiful, British Columbia, while others continued the practice in secret well into the 1930s. They began construction on the Cardston Temple in 1914 in order to continue to perform polygamous sealings in secret. The Cardston Temple was dedicated in 1923 by Heber J. Grant. The local Blood and Blackfeet Tribes had an unusual relationship with the Mormon settlers to say the least. Mormon missionaries were teaching the Natives about the Millenarism of Joseph Smith’s D&C 130:14-17. “Chief Wovoka” or Jack Wilson by his English name, taught many tribes to make Ghost Shirts that would repel bullets and to dance the Ghost Dance in order to usher in the reincarnation of Jesus Christ in 1890 as, “…the white Holy Men told him it was soon to come”. -Seeker of Visions, Lame Deer and John Fire, Richard Erodes, page 228. There was also an aggressive adopt a “half-breed” LDS program where the children of local Native women were taken and given to adoptive LDS settlers to raise to lighten their skin through the generations. Which white men impregnated them remains a mystery. Disturbingly, the Native adoptions continued well into the late 20th century within the mainstream LDS church throughout Canada and the US…but that’s a whole new can of Mormon worms.
@lorettagarcia2127 ай бұрын
I'm confused. As ponient as the personal struggle is, if they are already knowledgeable of the falsehood of the faith origins, why the struggle to be accepted by the false leaders ?
@lindahoward46397 ай бұрын
John, you don’t seem like yourself. Are you feeling alright?
@OnlyIfYourReady7 ай бұрын
I would like to see this channel address the whole “Moor”man name, and “Moro”ni Angel.
@suzanneluft72267 ай бұрын
What??? Apostles no longer allowed to keep journals? Wow!!!!
@manderson48036 ай бұрын
My word....your hair looks silky, John. ❤
@mb-the-enby7 ай бұрын
Anyone know why D. Michael Quinn named his son Moshe? It’s the Hebrew equivalent of Moses, but DMQ was not to my knowledge a scholar of the Bible or Hebrew.
@itllbesuzanarchy7 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe there's a way to directly contact him and see if he ever asked his dad about this?
@goanna20127 ай бұрын
Pint of view ❤ 1:08:03
@function00776 ай бұрын
Wow, D. Michael Quinn found a post-manifesto polygamy book in his local LDS chapel library?! Libraries, even LDS chapel libraries (i.e. extremely low quality libraries), can be dangerous for those too invested in certain narratives.
@goanna20127 ай бұрын
From my atheist plot of view 😮it’s so interesting to listen to your podcasts ❤
@jenniferstevenson16187 ай бұрын
I fell deeply I. Love with a very devout morman. This went on for three years. We broke up. I'm devastated. Is there anyone I can talk to?
@fussyrenovator75517 ай бұрын
You escaped a cult. Feel relieved.
@jlcl967 ай бұрын
I am sorry to hear you had a devastating breakup. I don’t know if it will help or not, but listening to the Mormon Stories episodes may help you understand more about your ex especially if religion played a part in the breakup. You can search for specific things like dating outside the Faith or return missionaries or attitudes about marriage. Best wishes.
@jenniferstevenson16187 ай бұрын
@@jlcl96 morman stories has been a comfort
@jenniferstevenson16187 ай бұрын
@fussyrenovator7551 yeah, it was really weird. I mean, like, I was a sociology major in college. I'm open...plus, I'm a bhudist. So? He was so hateful. Why?
@MsCaterific7 ай бұрын
💞
@caseytaylor14877 ай бұрын
What is the ERA?
@markchollak27847 ай бұрын
Equal Rights Amendment. It was a proposed amendment to the Constitution that would have protected rights for women in the workplace and other arenas of life. It narrowly missed being approved in the late 1970s. A Mormon woman named Sonia Johnson was a vocal supporter of it. She was excommunicated from the church for doing so.
@caseytaylor14877 ай бұрын
@@markchollak2784 Thanks for the info!
@michelecraig96587 ай бұрын
The Equal Right Amendment. For a hot minute, we women were trying to get an amendment to the US Constitution to give equal rights for women (the ability to own property separate from husbands, equal pay for equal work, etc etc. ) unfortunately, it never got the votes to pass.
@DanielFreed-f2b7 ай бұрын
I think they will either have to change their policy or they won't survive
@function00776 ай бұрын
Well, isn't there the famous case where a boy killed himself because he felt so guilty about masturbating. Queer or not queer, Mormon teachings can have very negative consequences for the lives of its victims.
@nute7425 ай бұрын
So may I "gather" from all these videos that these people still "believe" in the LDS church (and its gospel in general, 1st vision, bom, restoration, etc) But just don't agree with some of the people, programs, or administrations and past history?
@Maryfs17 ай бұрын
Moshe, do you have a sister named Harley?
@mauramc727 ай бұрын
Wish I could pay attention to what is being said but all I can hear is John BREATHING! I honestly wish so badly that he could learn to breathe quietly. I have misophonia and his loud ass breathing drives me insane. F
@mormonstories7 ай бұрын
How do you know it’s me?
@mauramc727 ай бұрын
@@mormonstories the spirit told me 😂 But for real though, your breathing man.. it’s painful for me. I legit want to listen to the podcast and I’m very interested in what’s being said but every time I hear you inhale it’s like an electric shock and it’s rage inducing. I can only listen in short bursts before it’s too much. Misophonia is a bitch
@MamaSea8887 ай бұрын
@@mormonstories😂😂
@MeditatewithVeronica3 ай бұрын
I’ve never even noticed his breathing.. idk about that 😂
@aa-bz9se7 ай бұрын
I really appreciate what John has done for the ex-mormon community. However, I think that you should come back to Jesus Christ. It seems like when people leave the Mormon Church they need something else, and sometimes that's something else is the religion of education.
@markkrispin69447 ай бұрын
John Delin is doing just fine and is happy without being involved in the Mormon Cult Church, thank you.
@Bachofenian7 ай бұрын
The Church does such a good job inoculating members against other beliefs. It's hard to latch on to a similar system. You know how they all work at that point.
@vmofu73175 ай бұрын
All you do is preach in the comments where it’s not welcomed and you’re infringing on this space, how disgusting, selfish, and arrogant of you
@sandee-zn9tq7 ай бұрын
Disappointed to hear that US Solicitor General, founding BYU law school dean & BYU Pres Rex E Lee (@1:25" mark) was instrumental in writing amicus brief doc that gave GAs rationalization to kill ERA! Read Rex's book Marathon of Faith & purchased several copies for friends & family. Rex's book details his battle w/ cancer. Used to have a lot of respect for Rex. Not so sad now that cancer got him 2nd time, after he relapsed. KARMA.