Section Fire and Manoeuvre part 1.

Vintage Army Training Film featuring the worlds most unflappable Cpl

[@OtherlingQueen]

lol -Any question? *guy raises hand* -Good! Rifle group, advance!

[@hughculliton3174]

That's a very good question! We'll deal with it after we clear the bushes, what-what? Son, will you please take point? There's a good chap!/s Alas, the FN was an outstanding rifle!

[@neilmckie2768]

Remember the film, and others like it, from the '70s - did the drills, wearing the same crap equipment as well. Steel helmet totally impractical, as soon as you dived to the ground, the bloody thing was knocked down over your eyes. Ah, the memories....

[@nickthx1138]

I very much like how the orders given are clear, simple, and to the point, with the the main objective repeated twice. In my work people start getting stroppy or intelligence-offended when I make procedures or instructions as simple, clear and as unambiguous as possible.

[@thecurlew7403]

Soviets were more afraid of SLR 762 than nuclear weapons .

[@shanehudson5438]

I never understood why people feel that way after clear instruction

[@BertPreast]

In training it's always emphasised that infantry instructions have to be made crystal clear. The blokes receiving them will be under immense fatigue, so you got to get through to them.

[@DavidFraser007]

I was in the British Army and I remember watching this film in the early 1980s in West Germany. It was pointed out that we were the only only army wearing camouflage pattern, even the Yanks wore dark green, as did every other NATO country. But we still wore puttees which went back to the 19th century and our tin hats were first issued 1944. My SLR had a plastic butt and a wooden stock.

[@hutch1111111]

I was so flustered during my CLC course during orders I said, "enemy, not sure which regiment they are". Instructor hit me in the helmet with his drill cane lol!

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

When is Tea Time?

[@simonhaste2864]

You can hear the skylarks, their call always reminds me of training areas, even now I am transported back 40 odd years.

[@paddy864]

This film featured soldiers from the Demonstration Battalion at the School of Infantry, Warminster and was made in about 1969 or '70. The Demo Bn. at the time were the Sherwood Foresters .The Section Commander was an Irishman called Rooney who was my Tactics Instrructor at the Infantry Junior Leaders Battalion, Oswestry, a few years later. Good to see this film again after so many years.

[@kaveebee]

+paddy864 And there is no magic . Its just all hard work, training and doing the basic stuff.

[@daverooneykildare]

Rooney is John Rooney my father . Still alive

[@paddy864]

@@daverooneykildare Well he won't remember me I'm sure but give him my regards anyway. Tell him it was in 1973 and the other sergeant in our platoon was also an Irishman, De Domenico from The Queens Regiment, an ex-Para. Our officer was Mr. Scotter from the Green Jackets but he was badly injured in a car accident and the platoon was then broken up and spread around the other platoons as there was a no-one to take over from him.

[@paddy864]

I first saw this film in 1973 and yes, 2 Royal Irish were Demo. Bn. at that time, I remember we had a presentation from their Assault Pioneer Platoon on Trench-blowing and other things on the Plain near Bulford in fact. This film predates that though. By then the Foresters had amalgamated with the Worcestershire Regiment and were now The Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters Regiment. Funnily enough, about 16 years later, my own Bn. relieved 1WFR as Demo. Bn at Warminster and I ended up appearing an 81mm Mortar Training film!

[@joedredd13215]

paddy864 amazing, I was an Argyll in Oswestry 1972-74. Tac wing was brutal on the beacons. Great times 🇬🇧👍

[@JimBiddle.]

"This is James, he's a new one". James is going to cop it then.

[@fixdeluxe1]

Tactics, Techniques and Procedures are still the same, regardless of how old it is. As long as small arms are still employed in combat, these principles will remain true.

[@manofwealthandtaste136]

Aside from the fact that the minimi is lighter than a gimpy, for sure.

[@gunner678]

Man of Wealth and Taste the gimpy was a far better squad fire base weapon, heavier or not!

[@DevilbyMoonlight]

not much can hide from it either

[@lloyd9710]

Man of Wealth and Taste I always preferred the L7 then the mini me for the firepower nothing else

[@gunner678]

Memories....i remember watching these during my time at Sandhurst in the 80s......then we went out to see the ghurkas do the drills on Barasso at double the speed, incredible guys! And the ghurka chefs in victory college on the weekend were superb!

[@dundee520]

this brings back memory's of my youth -- ex blackwatch yr 75 // 81.

[@geordiewishart1683]

Do you remember Rab Dundas and Billy Malarkey?

[@robashton8606]

Back in the days when the prospect of Warsaw Pact tanks pouring through the Fulda gap was one that we all lived with as a genuine possibility. Would have been a tank engagement to rival Kursk or Cherkassy and it was by no means certain who would have prevailed. I, for one, am glad we never had to find out. It would probably have made little difference in any case; whichever side came off worse would very likely have pressed the Big Red Button and we'd _all_ have been doomed. It seems weird to think that there's already a couple of generations alive now that never had to contend with the awful prospect of nuclear destruction. It was something I had regular nightmares about as a child, even though the danger had receded compared to what my parents lived with in the 60's. I sincerely hope things never deteriorate to that state again. Things aren't looking too good just lately.

[@TimDutch]

This comment did not age well unfortunately

[@James-C24]

@@TimDutch i see you have beat me too it 🤣🤣 was gonna say that this has become a lot lot more relevant.

[@trondog8503]

The SLR was named the "Man stopper " because that's what it did, beautiful weapon as long as you kept it clean!

[@Ardass486]

Not very diverse, and a very toxic remark.

[@thecurlew7403]

@@Ardass486 FN SLR 762 tops.

[@daverooneykildare]

Ha. Ha section commander is my father .For real .

[@teaempire7929]

Dave Rooney Very cool

[@drago_024]

really?

[@daverooneykildare]

Really .

[@daverooneykildare]

Dragø really

[@drago_024]

@@daverooneykildare cool

[@dulls8475]

nice to see them move away from position that they went down in before they get up on prepare to move. Happy memories and remember this film well.

[@MrBob6939]

I joined up in 1984... was issued the same combats, webbing, helmet, boots and putties... the SLR was a fantastic weapon!! We only got the new helmets and SA80 weapon system in the 90s... section battle drills, not fun, ended up blowing out of every orifice after one of them!!

[@SaturnVII]

How interesting how you could still show this today, and it's just as true as it was then. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[@EnglandAD927]

watched this at depot kings div 1983 never forget what i was taught best in the world

[@mwnciboo]

8:38 the Cpl was remarkably restrained....He didn't even say "Bleedin red arse". So much for realism eh? God the SLR was a good weapon.

[@fludblud]

Haha, my father was shown this in 1982 as a cadet in Aberdeen UOTC and I was shown this in 2010 as a cadet in Tayforth UOTC.

[@mangore623]

I was shown this in 1983 during battleschool at CFB Wainwright in the Canadian Forces.

[@Jimmyboy1674]

@@mangore623 I was shown it at ATR Pirbright in 2003!🤣🤣

[@ozdavemcgee2079]

Ahh an SLR you just know you have a real weapon that will reach out and let the enemy know you care. Heavy, yes. Recoil, yes. Works, every fucking time.

[@zahadaq]

Wow, wooden SLR's, tin hats and DMS boots....early 1970's? But still good. The British are good at this shit.

[@andrewjohnston4127]

They were good using that kit in 82, no spears either

[@sichere]

@@billdickson1142 Willy Prickson !

[@nacholibre1962]

"DMS" in the Green Jackets: "Dem's mah shoes!"

[@ivorbiggun710]

I remember watching this instructional film back in the day.

[@HarryG70]

this is why the British army are the best army in the world

[@geraldsmith5310]

Gosh brings back memories

[@billathighwoods4289]

Good section commander!

[@limeydavey]

Ha , memories....... i still here it today when on the range " three to five , stay alive.....five to seven , go to heaven"....

[@GunCops]

Care to explain, to share some wisdom, please?

[@casualtrucker]

Great army and great training vids!

[@CaspianWint-dn6nj]

I saw this film in1981 as a young PPCLI battle school recruit...fookin awesome

[@nacholibre1962]

I did my basic in 1981 with the Brits, then transferred to the Canadian Army in 1991. Still serving. Videos like these from the Services Sound and Vision Corporation served us very well.

[@CaspianWint-dn6nj]

@@nacholibre1962 wow, three clasps on your UCM (undetected crime medal), some refer to it as a CD......

[@pcka12]

Section in attack! I used to posses the manuals for all of this!

[@nacholibre1962]

I still do. Proffed 'em when I left the Brit Army to join the Canadians and took them with me!

[@kalliste23]

My favourites include "Combat Medicine in Vietnam" and those nuclear war fighting skills ones from the fifties they were still showing in the eighties - hope you can put them on YT.

[@SPICYMOOCHOO]

Love it!

[@mikepodella]

Success! The enemy's latrines have been captured!

[@TheIndia21]

Brilliant - never thought I'd see this again! Brings it all back!

[@gerhogan22]

Very good detail, I'll send it to the ranger wing

[@Caver461]

Exhausting!

[@verfugbarkite]

You get the impression everyone in that platoon hates each other. The Platoon commander seemed like a right fud.

[@peter386]

L1A1 kicks ass

[@peterrunting1688]

The elephant rifle haha

[@kaveebee]

+Peter Engberg That rifle, very much underrated today. It was long and heavy by todays standards but all that was worth it. I loved it.

[@notmenotme614]

“On our left the trees, these will be your left boundary. On our right more trees, they will be you right boundary” A bit vague isn’t it? There’s trees everywhere.

[@s.l669]

I watch this back in 1997 during basic

[@fludblud]

I was shown this in 2010 in the UOTC.

[@davidsmith2356]

In Wales we did advance to contact training about 3 miles don’t remember how many section attacks we did. A TAVR guy we had (doing his annual camp) with us broke down in tears after the first 8 and was taken away.. That is probably the Infantry demonstration battalion of the time. Irish Rangers because they did nothing else. And most were Cockneys.

[@thecurlew7403]

Royal Irish Rangers were tops the regulars were the best in Germany won many trophys.

[@shanehudson5438]

Indicating enemy range using the sound of bullets firing and hitting the ground genius

[@norwegianwiking]

good stuff, even despite the cheezy stock bullet ricochet sounds added for "effect".

[@marcelbergler9828]

I want james, *pause* you, burg and myself to form second group. hahaha

[@Stigstigster]

His name could have been "Yew" I suppose.

[@sichere]

Why ow why oh why did the SLR have a carrying handle - as if it wasn't already heavy enough !!!!

[@hughculliton3174]

5:02 - Excellent use of machete! Focusses the minds of sleep-deprived soldiers!

[@vcard6839]

Did this as part of the Dem section attached to the school of infantry Hythe 1964-65. At the time it was the Welch Regiment , later the Royal Regiment of Wales and now the The Royal Welsh. And yes the SLR was the best rifle by far.

[@thecurlew7403]

Yes SLR scared soviets to death should have upgraded it but now fn scar 762 is SLR upgraded needs to replace sa 80 .

[@endoftheworldnews]

grenade pin ring pull cpl ! top ally

[@user-hg2uh6hp7u]

Well smoked. Welcome on home.

[@pappuchomartinoastrella2392]

can this be used for instruction??

[@atomheartmothersuite7913]

Hello to my fellow Rifles In Waterloo platoon

[@bigjohn697791]

Southern Irish Cpl listening to his accent I am picking it up

[@paddy864]

Yes, he was from Co.Kildare, I knew him.

[@888ssss]

Part 1. Outmanoeuvring other pawns.

[@FHIPrincePeter]

Goose Green

[@davidsmith2356]

Use your common sense (Don’t take an officer) adapting to every situation is key...

[@alexwilliamson1486]

Proven tactics that retook the Falklands….very tiring….blowing out of your hoop when you got to enemy positions….

[@sirbhp]

section commander was from Dublin?

[@paddy864]

Kildare as I recall.

[@billathighwoods4289]

2nd Btn Scots Guards , Sandhurst demo platoon 1966. Nothing changed to 80s

[@endoftheworldnews]

more trees he sounds like he works at the B B C rodney

[@craiglawrence5211]

Anyone know what radio the section leader has here? A40?

[@PaddyInf]

Probably 2 cups with some string.

[@kevinadamson5768]

Did I really do all this when crap when I was young, join the army they said its fun they said, bloody hard thankless work more like.

[@_--Reaper--_]

8:37 does anyone understand what he says?

[@manofwealthandtaste136]

'Get up, you can't go taking cover if there's just a couple of stray rounds coming over, now get moving'.

[@benturner959]

get up, you can't go taking cover every time a couple of stray rounds go over

[@luisguevara7402]

Fal is the best

[@blingbling574]

Memories I can't forget. I remember the crazy burn in my legs with all the bounding. I also remember a grunt getting his balls pierced by a little cactus hidden in the grass.

[@Stigstigster]

Of all the dangers the men and women of our armed forces are asked to face, a cactus to the ballbag is the worst of it. A good argument to allow women on the front line I reckon. They are generally immune to cactus - ballbag interaction.

[@vic6820]

@timetowaste you're in your own time now!

[@deltawinguk]

Takes me back to the days i was in the ARMY. Why does it look like sailsbury plain in Wiltshire .

[@paddy864]

Tim Foster Because that's where it was filmed.

[@oddballsok]

spaghetti western ! 0:33

[@Horizon344]

All this training & hard work for a war - bar the small number of troops who saw action in the Falklands - that never happened

[@AlphaBravoCheeseCake]

The majority will have ended up in province (ni) and used a lot of these tactics extensively at the height of the troubles

[@Horizon344]

@@AlphaBravoCheeseCake Fair point.

[@mcsmash4905]

and then people make jokes about how the ai calls out targets in the arma series...like this is basicaly it

[@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl]

They still used the 50 mm knee mortar.

[@nacholibre1962]

That was the two-inch mortar, not a 50mm. It was replaced by the 51mm in the early 1980s. Good luck firing any light mortar from the knee. It would smash the leg.

[@matthewwaddington2777]

Because during a rapid enemy onslaught, you'll have time to discuss your tactics!

[@vladimirortega5846]

Matthew Waddington you have to ! Else you dead lol

[@jelkel25]

That's why you train over and over again, so it's second nature and you have the muscle memory then you're not phased when it's truly hit the fan.

[@simonyip5978]

Around 5 minutes the section commander has a machete, I haven't seen a British Army issue machete before.

[@SmokeDog1871]

soldiers can carry stuff that isnt standard issues, i know of one us soldier in the korengal who carried a katana on patrol

[@simonyip5978]

Edward Brink I have looked up the tools carried by the British infantry and they have been issued machetes for decades now.

[@dulls8475]

We were issued them all the time especially if you were in woods.

[@johnwiddowson5695]

We called em gollocks. Standard issues amongst infantry soldiers.

[@SE10GREENWICH]

Gollocks or as we used to call them "tree beaters" because they were about as much use as tits on a kipper, blunt as fuck and all you could do was beat a small tree to death with it.

[@danielf1313]

They don’t like it up’em, the Russkies, they just don’t like it up’em

[@Mod-rw9cw]

Ah I remember it well how to remove your brain and follow an idiot of an officer into the face of certain death.This why I joined the engineers and was a planty.

[@williameaton9058]

Almost 50yrs after and they havent advanced one bit.

[@johnbuckley1584]

No, and we're still winning too.

[@Climpus]

How would you suggest it's changed?

[@manassurya2019]

soviets go boom

[@mikepodella]

Also titled as "How To Get Yourself Killed Right Quick".

[@ryama86]

try giving qbos as a section commander in a fire fight especially with crows this is just jokes

[@derekking8690]

isn't this all a bit silly? - ie using blokes instead of just plastering the enemy with mortars, artillery, apache and nowadays drones. I guess life was cheap back then, it's never going to be like this again.

[@marksteven6116]

wrong should always keep gpmg with section, as tangos could move and take it out , they can always move on you to, stay to giver pepper pot and use smoke when they have rounds on you.

[@smudger746]

mark steven and your experience of this is what exactly?

[@PaddyInf]

What do you mean 'wrong'? Section fire and maneauver can be done in different ways. The gun group method seen here was standard when the film was made due to the section weapon split. You try pepper potting with a GPMG and ammo and you'll understand why it is used as a fire base. These days it is a more equal mix, with fire teams being more equal in make up. This means more pairs/fire team F&M rather than a separate gun group. Oh, and who the fuck says Tangos?