The F-22 could be added and still fall short of Seeker's glorious J7E.
@kazoix2 жыл бұрын
XD
@kiubekpl58632 жыл бұрын
+100000000 social credit
@braedynhoward36442 жыл бұрын
Yup. He will be head of the J7E cult...
@Mattymillman2 жыл бұрын
I want them to add rank 8 and have to e 5th gen jets ther
@shikikanaz46242 жыл бұрын
give j7e radar and radar missiles (maybe post-doppler) and bamn. you have a 5th gen jet right there
@DeadSkyWT2 жыл бұрын
Top 5 video in 2024: Number #2. - F22 Raptor Number #1. - J7E Reason: The F22 suffers such great energy loss in turns. - Seeker All jokes aside, good video. 🤣
@arking28682 жыл бұрын
2024: #2 - F22 #1 - J20
@DeadSkyWT2 жыл бұрын
@@arking2868 J7e.
@appa6092 жыл бұрын
J7E at 12.7
@DeadSkyWT2 жыл бұрын
@@appa609 F14, Mirage 2000, MLD/MLA at 12.0. J7E 11.3
@Beardless_Michael4 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, we’re still in 80s.
@Bruh-fc7ik2 жыл бұрын
I like the F-4s. They’re by no means the best, but I think they’re neat; nice balance between a support plane that can help team mates and a decent dog fighter in the right situation. Kinda feels like the perfect ‘learning top tier’ plane for pilots who wanna sharpen skills
@kingghidorah81062 жыл бұрын
they got buffed yeah, one of the best dogfighters in the game currently is the f4e
@bruhdealer35052 жыл бұрын
Im absolutelt not new to top tier, but extremely new to radar missiles, so im not quite used to the 11.3 top tier yet. Just unlocked the AIM7Fs on the EJ Kai, but i cant use them for shit and it pisses me off. I dont really know how to approach a fight with radar missiles and it really hurts
@graver68622 жыл бұрын
@@bruhdealer3505 Hey, go check another video of seeker head's "how to evade radar missiles"
@bruhdealer35052 жыл бұрын
@@graver6862 thanks for the recommendation, it's a great video and I've seen it quite a few times!
@skytron222 жыл бұрын
@@bruhdealer3505 Fire them beyond 7km from your target. The 7Fs have a longer burn time than the E2s, but don’t turn as well. So you’ll want to be further from your target, ideally between 7 and 14 km. Frankly they’ll be more useful if you position yourself well before the furball starts. Since you have a PD radar, staying low to the ground should give you a decent advantage. Fire those 7Fs when the enemy is flying towards you. I do this with the F-4J and it works pretty well for me.
@wolfpack5712 жыл бұрын
Before the PL-5B "buff" (when the missile was too fast to turn), at 5k alt, I used to consistently get kills as far as 7km. It was wild getting almost BVR kills with an IR missile.
@hemendraravi47872 жыл бұрын
Yea lol it was like mini r24t
@yuluoxianjun2 жыл бұрын
i saw a vedio that in the very early version,a guy use PL-5B to kill a Mig2x over 10km,that is really scary as a not radar missile
@hemendraravi47872 жыл бұрын
@@yuluoxianjun my highest was 11km on a viggen. He was at high alt aswell but he was slow
@Sebastian-yl7nq2 жыл бұрын
*The J-7E is by far my personal favourite* I can't really describe what it is that makes it so pleasing to fly, but it just feels like what I would have imagined an F-16 to be, in terms of fligh performance/handling
@uiop72042 жыл бұрын
It is good, I played with it a lot, but not any more after its repair cost goes beyond 20000 and all those AIM-7Fs flying in the air...Now my personal favorite is the Mirage2k, you should really try it out
@Thanksforbeingyou2 жыл бұрын
@@uiop7204 yeah but the repair cost is high bc that plane actually lives through most wins. It's not like the f14 where you're gonna get a lot of kills but you're also gonna have a ton of deaths. You can really survive in the j7e
@gsilvy4k5702 жыл бұрын
@@Thanksforbeingyou No jet should have a repair cost that high, doesn't matter how good it is. This is pure laziness from Gaijin.
@wolfpack5712 жыл бұрын
The F-16 cropped-delta wing and the J-7E double delta, as far as War Thhunder goes, will have pretty similar configurations. I'm kind of curious to see how the J-10C and the Rafale will perform.
@uiop72042 жыл бұрын
@@wolfpack571 Pretty much like a better mirage2000 or Viggen i guess
@The_Irish_Fox2 жыл бұрын
Viggen is my favorite plane as I fly with a friend in his F-14 works really well as a support fighter
@pierricus13992 жыл бұрын
The F5E is still a very strong plane imo, you can fly around people as much as you want, exept J7E but most of the time you'll be able to get him and it is always a great dogfight :D
@MrConceito2 жыл бұрын
His previous video he said the F-5E was low key the best plane, but I think he just loves the insane thrust and cracked PL-5Bs too much to give it an honorable mention anymore.
@stefanmichaelsenzegarra56882 жыл бұрын
@@MrConceito F5E is damn good but it gets dusted by an F14, M2000, J7E and if the MLD then its sort of tough but in a sustained dogfight the MLD will just stomp it
@yuluoxianjun2 жыл бұрын
yeah,but 9J now is not that good in top tier now
@GmodFilmsTR2 жыл бұрын
its not in the meta but its hell of a fun to fly. still better than f4f f4e ect ofc or mig21bis those are just bad.
@roadhigher2 жыл бұрын
@@stefanmichaelsenzegarra5688 F-5E can hold Mach 0.98 without losing speed in a 9G turn, the only other plane that can do anything close to that is the J-7E. In a sustained turn fight the F-5E's energy retention at Mach 0.9 to Mach 1 is bonkers and you can just loop around in circles until the other guy drops down to 500kph and you can dust him from there. What helps a lot is that the vast majority of players at top tier will go full send and just hold down S in a dogfight with zero concern for their airspeed until they realise they're practically falling out of the sky whilst you're still doing Mach 0.9
@ODST_Parker2 жыл бұрын
As someone who's only flown (and finally spaded) the F-104S ASA out of this list, I have to say I'm very torn on its inclusion. On one hand, I've done extremely well with it in some battles, wiping four people within about ten seconds and then supporting my team to victory. On the other, I've been SARH'd into oblivion more times than I can count, I've been tunnel-visioned and obliterated by the entire enemy team, and I've been on the receiving end of more "me against the world" battles than I'd like thanks to shit teams. The F-104S ASA cannot carry battles, it simply cannot. However, it CAN be a lot of fun when your enemies aren't paying enough attention, and you get the rare instance of being able to rack up kill after kill.
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
I think 4 9Ls have a massive impact to play for your team, especially considering you almost always fight f-14s. Get behind one and fire a 9L and there’s literally nothing it can do about it. if the match maker wasn’t all f-14s and if 9Ls weren’t so strong, it wouldn’t have made it
@ODST_Parker2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekerHead Oh yeah, blind F-14As were Lima bait, and that was fantastic. Problem was, getting on their six and hoping they're blind is not the most reliable strategy. It's my main issue with the F-104S ASA. It's a fantastic plane in top-tier... if your enemies aren't that good. If they are, and especially of your team isn't, it's a nightmare to play.
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
it doesn’t really matter if they’re blind or not, if u fire from behind there’s literally nothing left they can do to not die, and the chance of them being able to keep u off of their 6 the entirety of the match without dying to someone else or contributing nothing to their own team is pretty much 0. just a tough time to be an f-14 if there’s an ASA or harrier in the match
@connorfox15512 жыл бұрын
When the ASA was first added I did incredibly well with it, but now I really never do well with it, idk if i've just lost my edge or what but it seems to not be as good as it used to be
@coyote84272 жыл бұрын
Bis SAU is my favourite personally! i really struggle in the F-14, and MLA is still a monster! But i have the most fun in the GR.7
@handzze73412 жыл бұрын
Same, the 25mm is insane
@naveed.perkins2 жыл бұрын
What’s funny is I actually agree and I’ve never flown the J7-E. I have the MLA, F14, Mirage 2000 and Viggen and nothing scares me more than seeing a J7-E behind me because I know I’m fucked. No plane has better energy retention and maneuverability and even considering how long I’ve played, especially with the viggen, nothing compares.
@yuluoxianjun2 жыл бұрын
Keep energy full.-----J Tzu
@sniperh2o3252 жыл бұрын
Fr tho, the J7E is absolutely terrifying. But since I've gotten the Gr7, I haven't lost a dogfight yet in terms of 1 circle. I've clapped mirages like they're easy, been wanting to find and fight a J7E in a enclosed environment. If anything could beat the J7E I'd think the Gr7 could honestly do it done right
@jacobdewey20532 жыл бұрын
@@sniperh2o325 I'll 1v1 your Gr.7 in my mirage 2k and beat you if you want
@sniperh2o3252 жыл бұрын
@@jacobdewey2053 I already did a 1v1 against a mirage 2k in sim just a few days ago. In the end I still managed to barely beat him but it did show the 2k has more to offer. GR7 has a better first turn while the mirage of course has better consistent turns. Either way i wouldn't mind doing another 1v1 against another pilot. If your fine doing it in sim that is It even gave me one of my best kills in months lmao,
@drierwhisper7292 жыл бұрын
My F-104A flying pencil can completely out-dogfight any J-7E. It has the superior missile loadout (2x Aim-9b's that have cracked range) and the better turning circle at 200 football fields instead of the measly 2 football fields. I don't know what you're on Mr. Seeker Head but I think the F-104A is the best plane in the game.
@kayrxx71232 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Also 104 > 7, F is before J and A is before E. In conclusion strong F-104A outeverything J-7E.
@drierwhisper7292 жыл бұрын
@@kayrxx7123 precisely.
@thatguynk80442 жыл бұрын
The f104 also has a way cooler brrrr gun vs the j7Es lame ratatata gun
@drierwhisper7292 жыл бұрын
@@thatguynk8044 exactly
@HippityhoppityGnW2 жыл бұрын
I cant tell if this is sarcasm cuz im not top tier but if it is it is very funny
@collander77662 жыл бұрын
I agree with your comments on the Mirage 2000. a 4x R.550 Magic 2 loadout would be great for it. Unfortunately, despite being 30 Gs instead of 25, I still prefer AIM-7Fs over the Super 530Ds. In my experience the 7Fs are actually harder to dodge, because for some reason it feels like the 530Ds overlead really hard sometimes like the AIM-9L used to do. They're great most of the time, but due to the inconsistency I'd rather have AIM-7Fs... or 2x more Magic 2s.
@vascoiraola52092 жыл бұрын
nope
@TheAmazingCowpig2 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the meta, but I've found relatively careful shots with the 530D are extremely reliable. The difference I've found with 7Fs is that on most other planes, you just get more of them, so you can afford to miss one or two and still get kills with the rest.
@collander77662 жыл бұрын
@@TheAmazingCowpig nah I feel like they're also just better, as well as being more difficult to notch
@nicolaspeigne14292 жыл бұрын
i don't understand why the 530 are so slow ingame too, i understand higher drag when the motor runs out, but it should be hauling ass as longs as the motor is burning
@collander77662 жыл бұрын
@@nicolaspeigne1429 it definitely gets fast eventually, probably faster than an AIM-7F. But since it’s motor doesn’t last as long, it’s only at a higher speed for a short duration while the AIM-7F continues chugging along at high speed with its sustainer motor
@classifiedinfo34232 жыл бұрын
Hey seeker head it’s great seeing your Growth on KZbin and I hope you get even more!
@ron_clapped_u98052 жыл бұрын
Im honestly a fan of the Japanese F-1, idk why but just feels really good in combat, and turns way faster than advertised on its stat card all while having Aim-9P’s
@josephbishop32312 жыл бұрын
Good to know you're still the king of the J-7E fan club.
@TheInvisibleOrange262 жыл бұрын
1:46 I felt that getting a kill thinking you alone and going to base then getting shot from the sky
@dogechan14392 жыл бұрын
I use 4 Phoenix 2 7F and 2 9H loadout, which is USN standard loadout, and manual radar targetting. Avoid dogfight unless its a 1v1. Fox 3 is amazing if you launch it above 5000m and give it long enough distance to accelerate. The secret of this loadout is that once you get rid of all of the Fox 3s (which should be much faster than Fox 1s), you are much lighter than those carrying 4 7F, which I figure constantly surprises enemy trying to dogfight me. Another surprise is the flap, when its slow enough to deploy your combat flap, you can out turn everyone.
@alexram184 Жыл бұрын
thanks for this helpful tip
@Feuervix2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, now make a top 5 worst jets in war thunder
@maverickjhett2 жыл бұрын
surprised the EJ Kai didn’t make the list, i know it’s a phantom with average IR missiles but man that radar and 7F combo is disgusting. if it ever gets 9L/AAM3 i could see it being anywhere in current the top 3
@jacobliljengren13342 жыл бұрын
But it is a buss so can’t dogfight at all
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
No point in playing the EJ kai when the f-14 does the radar/7F even better, has more of them, and actualllg has good flight performance
@jacobliljengren13342 жыл бұрын
@@SeekerHead so true the f14 does everything better but I don’t enjoy the f14 anymore 0 fun I much rather play the f8e
For the MLD, you can slave your R60s to the IRST, the extra AOA to keep lock inside the gimble limit or just outside of it ;). The SAAB 35XS has the same thing. The RB24Js are absolutely leathal at 3km and if you arent spotted and use just outside the edge of the limit for lead! Ground out most of the tree in a very short amount of time with that one. Not many flares with the trade off of only needing one at a time if you cut your afterburner. This video seems to be Jets you hate lol.
@pebbles99732 жыл бұрын
Way too many people sleep on the J7E and think it's just another MiG-21 until they're absolutely slapped around by it. I've had way too many F-14 players thinking they can just ratefight it like they can with pretty much every other plane.
@jacobbaumgardner34062 жыл бұрын
Mirage unfortunately makes sense. The 530D’s are Aim-7M equivalent, but the radar is closer to that of a Hornet than an Eagle (which BTW will be broken when it comes). Very limited in range and capability. As for J-7E it actually IRL in Pakistan was touted as going head to head with Eagles in war games in an ACM scenario. It’ll shine less when everyone gets good IR missiles.
@ovrwrldkiler2 жыл бұрын
1-4 I agree with mostly. I would strongly disagree with having the F104 anywhere near a top tier list. If it had a more normal RWR it would be fine, but having to guess where SARH shots are coming from is painful even if 9l's are quite good. I'd give 5th to the f4ej kai(best of the PD phantoms) or mabye the j8b(with pl5's. Radar isnt good enough to justify taking the aspides and only have 2 IR missiles). Both have their own issues but are more reliable, can still mop up lots of kills early match, and have a much better potential to close out games that end up close than the pencil.
@WarWolf__C72 жыл бұрын
it's good to see you are using Bangaldesh Air Foce camo for J-7E note that F-7BGI is the most advanced and last production version of J-7 family and it's modified and exported to Bangaldesh ❤️
@pindell_092 жыл бұрын
JUST CAME FROM THE OTHER VID BUT AGAIN WOOOOOO LOVE THE CONTENT SEEEEEEEK
@paypaul692 жыл бұрын
just watched your new vid, had to come back to this one!! great vids!!!
@GeneralLee20002 жыл бұрын
OOOOOOO ASA!!! Hell yeah brüther. Also viggen stays losing 💪
@aluminium10352 жыл бұрын
1. F-14 2 or 3. M2K, MLD 4. J7E 5. EJ Kai seeker, if u can make a genuine video on why the J7E is still the best i would love to tune in to that vid compared to the M2K
@DeadSkyWT2 жыл бұрын
For me 1. F14 2. Mirage 2000 3. MLD/MLA 4. J7E 5. Phantoms
@vascoiraola52092 жыл бұрын
drugs 🤭
@DeadSkyWT2 жыл бұрын
@@vascoiraola5209 Personal preference
@vascoiraola52092 жыл бұрын
@@DeadSkyWT 🤭
@DeadSkyWT2 күн бұрын
@@vascoiraola5209 😌😍😍
@CarlCliffy2 жыл бұрын
Hey seeker, I know you think that the J7E is really good, and I would have to agree, but could you do a dogfight on the channel between it and an F5E just to see how they stack up against each other because I believe the F5E is a top 5 plane
@thatguynk80442 жыл бұрын
I agree that it’s flight performance is near on par with the j7E, it just really lacks in the missile department. The j7E gets 4 pl5s with 30gs of overload whereas the f5 only gets 2 aim9Js with only 20gs of overload
@raggy31872 жыл бұрын
Gr.7 is just so fun , going full hover and launching a aim-9l like a helicopter is the funniest part
@CT--Echo-wi3dt2 жыл бұрын
The lack of harrier with a presence of f104 is the most disturbing thing I've witnessed today
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
the harrier is a subsonic 11.0 that bleeds speed like a delta. It’s solely carried by 9Ls, the flight performance otherwise would never let it be competitive. Somewhat of the same story on the asa, except you know, it actually goes fast
@CT--Echo-wi3dt2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekerHead maybe so yes, but the harrier has a lot of charm, it has a great angle of attack, great turnrate with a boost of its vtol abilities. It has 2 great canons, and powerful cas abilities if sb wants to grind other aircrafts out. F104? Its a flying pencil it doesnt have any advantages besides its speed. Playing harrier 7 with lets say aim G would be actually doable and still fun. F104? not at all Adding to the fact that now basically everything wich is not an f14 flies under 1k meters so speed difference is marginal imo
@Karibo_02 жыл бұрын
F8E is soooo underrated ! (70% victory, mostly at top tier, 5 K/D ratio)
@AlexanderRodriguez-lk3hy2 жыл бұрын
I like this list and agree with 1 and 2 especially, but I feel like the bis-SAU and J8B deserve a spot somewhere, but I just don't know where. Then again that may just be because of my playstyle.
@kayrxx71232 жыл бұрын
1- PO-2M 2- F-14 3- M2k 4- J-7E 5- MLD/A Hm- Gr7
@jabdielPR2 жыл бұрын
There is no way nobody has mentioned the Scimitar. *ok hear me out* The engine power it has can get it at like 700mph in no time at all and the climb rate is insane, maneuverability is alright apart from the slight lazy rudder. In my opinion it shines the most in Operation maps like Vietnam and such In short, you can outspeed and outclimb almost everything in every match you will be in and you have enough fire power to nuke a small country and the aim 9bs are useful occasionally Play it as a boom and zoomer and you will rake kills like its nothing im currently 44-9 with it. Researching tier 4 mods and still have a free repair left 😂 Honorable mention: Meteor G41K
@kingghidorah81062 жыл бұрын
Nice reversal on the tomcat with the f4e dawg
@trent89782 жыл бұрын
9:20 in the vid he says “Darge Sarge” good one seek 😂😂😂
@bradentucker48542 жыл бұрын
First off as an Italian main love the 104 love because the aim 9 Ls or amazing
@greybuckleton2 жыл бұрын
Haha, that quad kill was awesome!
@allena55452 жыл бұрын
16:41 I know that guy was fuming after tracing a cutout of your jet with his Vulcan.
@skidwarfarebo21712 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but every time I shoot a aim7 they notch 90 degrees and flare/chaff dump I lose the lock but the missile still hits any ideas?
@VAPOURIZE1002 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!! Idk if they have the exact Pakistan version of the J7 they call it F7 PG now it's a reserve aircraft but in their heyday they added the Aim 9s to these bad boys 😎😎
@alexlifts95232 жыл бұрын
Kfir c7 is my favourite. I have never lost a 1v1 against anything in it.
@boenk37422 жыл бұрын
but in 15v15 chaos maneuvrability not the main thing
@natsirt98092 жыл бұрын
this comment is a bit late but TBH I think that the aim 9 H is not bad. It's close to the exact same as an aim 9 G but it performs as good if not better than the aim 9 J because of how you can use it's high FOV on the f14 paired with it's radar.
Saying the viggen cannot outdogfight the J7E is not factual, I don't know if I'm fighting a5c players in disguise or I'm a competent pilot, but I've very rarely been out done by any plane at top tier, and this was just in the aj37 which has to carry 1 gunpod on one wing and a flare pod on the other. Had some struggles with mig23 players but never died to them in the 1v1 dogfight and the same goes for the J7E
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
anecdotal experience brother. it’s irrelevant
@Grizzbit2 жыл бұрын
Best jet will always be the OV-10 Bronco. So good they took the jet engine away.
@jordancourse51022 жыл бұрын
The MLD is my favorite top tier plane. It suits my playstyle. I'm either super aggressive with my 24R's or im playing sneaky aggressive with the 24T's and I absolutely love energy trapping / forcing people to fight on my terms when i get the chance to 1v1. I say this, the MLD can still hold it's own against the F14 if you fly it right. Yea the F14 can do everything you can do but better but the MLD has better energy retention in the long run if you can survive the first 2 turns. Most F14 pilots i've fought, bleed all of their energy trying to pull AOA but that can get you killed easily. P.S J7E is still the best top tier jet. The flight performance is just cracked.
@cristobalalvarez54912 жыл бұрын
Which is ba for the j7e since they were tested and shown they would not be able to compete since it’s wings broke at 5-6 g
@codylaforte99862 жыл бұрын
I've been having success in the MiG-21SMT. Cause premium aircraft lack the knowledge that SARH exists
@Em_Youl2 жыл бұрын
5:31 What? What about F 14s and their (cringe) Phoenix missiles?
@kazline1455 Жыл бұрын
"besides the F14 nothing rivals the J-7E's flight performance" Personally in every dogfight i had in my J-7E against any cat, ive yet to lose an actual dogfight, the J-7E often outrates the tomcat easily. (Just an fyi, this is from a sim player's perspective)
@tictaculer2 жыл бұрын
i would personaly say that the gr7 should be on this list as it is a little gremlin that you can't ignore
@masteryoda79002 жыл бұрын
Man, no love for the kfir c7? Its so underrated and if played correctly can even be better than the mirage 2k
@_xxexexx_30022 жыл бұрын
My top tier is 1.F-14 2. mirage2000 3. phantom ej kai 4. mig 23 mla/mld 5. Viggen but that is for sim bcs i hate playing realistic battles where it actually have nothing in comon with realism so i play sim to have atleast a bit of it and there for top tier you need to have good radar and radar missiles other wise everyone is gonna out range you and a side a good ir missile for close fight when u already merge with someone.
@collander77662 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%
@ryans.simpson57012 жыл бұрын
The viggen is Great with a pilot who knows how to use it. The fat freaking rudder = insane maneuvers
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
no matter how much you “know how to use it” or how you fly it, it’s flight performance is simply inferior to the M2K, J7 and f14 in every single metric. Even the MLA/MLD have some very large exploitations over it
@sinclepforever54692 жыл бұрын
I prefer the JA-37 it's just got that double Delta of the draken (at a weaker angle) but it has the engine power of the 2000. Plus the missiles are really good and the radar will stick to anything and very rarely loose lock
@jakobmax32992 жыл бұрын
Only problem is the afterburner is thirstier than males on the 30th of november
@sinclepforever54692 жыл бұрын
@@jakobmax3299 that is true yes but so os the tomcats sadly so you just learn to take full tanks
@adam6322 жыл бұрын
@@jakobmax3299 LOL, how's it going? still going strong? :O
@zahnatom2 жыл бұрын
"will rarely lose a lock" yeah unless the enemy chaffs, moves, notches or does anything except go in a straight line
@sinclepforever54692 жыл бұрын
@@zahnatom I've had enemies go sideways on me but I've kept them locked
@TheInvisibleOrange262 жыл бұрын
The F-14 I would put at first it does have that flaw whith flares but once you learn to notch IRs while just cutting burner and a few flares it’s pretty damn good
@AZ-dj1ni2 жыл бұрын
my Aim9L does not think the same
@soysauce69772 жыл бұрын
My pl5 does not think the same
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
you’ll have to teach me how to notch those IRs 😂
@unskilledwarthunderplayer40112 жыл бұрын
My R60M does not think the same
@jonathankuykendall76222 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the f14 not being able to flare missiles is another one of gaijins attempts to balance it unrealistically.
@EB-Ghost62 жыл бұрын
Don’t feel bad about bad audio, it sounds fine
@zweigelt36062 жыл бұрын
J7E (weight power ratio is awsome) F14A Mirage 2000 MIG23MLD Viggen
@FullThrottleRacing5352 жыл бұрын
M2000 has the highest power to weight ratio out of them all
@_mr.first_2 жыл бұрын
Agree with everything except J-7, of course. It doesn’t have good gun and it simply has only 4 missiles, so F-14 definitely beats him in terms of top-1 plane, imo even mirage is better right now than the J-7
@pedrolft90102 жыл бұрын
I still play the F4e sometimes, always a fun time with it
@nathanskupowski47262 жыл бұрын
The only missile I’ve never been able to dodge without cutting ab (still at 100% throttle) and dropping a few flairs is the magic 2
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
Depends on what aspect, I know you’re not doing that from a 6 o’clock launch
@nathanskupowski47262 жыл бұрын
@@SeekerHead not a perfect 6 o’clock launch but in rear aspect I do quite a bit
@sadstar32252 жыл бұрын
From my experience, the MLA beats the J7e in a sustained dogfight by a close margin, the J7e is better in the one circle though and definitely more survivable.
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
The MLA wins if it manages to completely deplete the J7s speed. The problem is that when doing that the J7 gets at least 3 shots in before that happens, which is 3 opportunities to win before the MLA can. If the J7 misses or doesn’t take advantage of those chances though, then yeah the MLA will eventually be able to just hold S
@sadstar32252 жыл бұрын
@@SeekerHead Valid point, I am an average player but I had dogfights in a MLA with J7e's taking them two circle and was able to just avoid the guns every time by taking them into spirals and forcing the rate fight, even at low speeds, and was out rating the J7e with wings fully swept forward. I believe the MLA is a superior dogfighter when it comes to two circle rate fighting. Anyway thanks for responding Seeker Head ❤
@DrSmallarms2 жыл бұрын
I have won quite a few 1V1 dogfights against J-7Es using an F-5E
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
same, but that’s just a player issue. the J7 in theory should win every single time.
@bradenkenderski31712 жыл бұрын
can you do best American planes because I don't know what to focus on.
@jakobbohman5492 жыл бұрын
F5E is really good, and so is viggen. Make a dogfights video where you play J7 against another good player in the viggen F5E and F14
@bignuggie6706 Жыл бұрын
What country is j7E?
@leighcoulson21482 жыл бұрын
First of all I use a joystick so getting gun kills with some aircraft is more difficult than using a mouse (a few aircraft flop around like a fish on land) ..and I'm not that good and don't take it too seriously. Anyway I haven't got the J7E, so for me I'd say 1: Mig 23MLD, 2: F14, 3: Viggen, 4: Mirage 2000, 5: maybe F104 asa or Mig 21bis. However I wouldn't say these are my favourites or what I do best in.
@zahnatom2 жыл бұрын
mf put the viggen before the viggen lmfao
@aluminium10352 жыл бұрын
i swear u could literally add some plane that beats out the J7E in every way this man would still be adamant about it being the best when it clearly isn't
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
Problem is flight performance wise currently there is nothing that beats the J7 in every way. it’s actually the opposite, the J7 out performs everything but the F-14 in every single metric. The PL5s are also extremely meta missiles imo bc the way u get kills in top tier is people don’t know ur shooting at them. PL5 is a perfect recipe for that, only being beaten out in this regard by the R24T, but u can only carry 2 of those.
@DataDownLynk Жыл бұрын
I disagree with your assessment of the 9Hs. I think them having almost the same G pull as 9Js but having such a larger FOV makes them still quite useful if you know how to lead them out on unsuspecting targets. I tend to get kills with more than half of my 9H launches. I'd put them at tier 2 on your scale personally.
@Redfox4422 жыл бұрын
Still love the F-5E. In my book it sits under the the 2000 and the bis sau after it
@apoleonschneider2 жыл бұрын
I must be doing something very wrong cause you say that IR missiles are the most important thing right now, while I go out with my f14 and force head-on owning everyone with amazing radar and great aim7-fs. I cant fathom how the IR missiles can win in radar meta. Even from behind the enemy I find the aim7 is a lot more effective than any IR missile. Am I completely lost? Please, throw me some rope on this issue.
@Thanksforbeingyou2 жыл бұрын
The J7E is absolutely the best plane imo also. Where I might disagree with you is that I think you underplay how well the J7E dogfights against the f14. Now 1v1 due to the radar the F14 has a huge advantage. But fights within air RB matches as they play out. Not only would I say that I'm rarely outflown by an F14 but that the F14 is my primary target simply bc it is fairly easy to kill. You can't put the f14 1st bc they never live through matches. At the end of the match it's always someone else. Never the f14.
@jaek__2 жыл бұрын
I've seen F-14 mains with like 5 K/D's absolutely rinse J-7E pilots, it's rare, but since both of these aircraft are mainstream now it's rare that either pilots are completely competent or experienced. The F-14 simply is better because you can squeeze out the most performance from it, which is a absolutely amazing thing, it adds depth to the aircraft. Likewise with the J-7E but the average player is going to be able to maximize its performance with less time and more optimally, which is what makes such a dominant airframe.
@4S1X_2 жыл бұрын
Draken can outturn props so I guess it can outturn also j7e
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
it loses energy too fast to every be competitive though. its a cool party trick, but not useful in fighting
@4S1X_2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekerHead fax but in 1v1 losing energy rapidly can be an advantage
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
@@4S1X_ that’s what air brakes are for lol not airframes
@ardap39662 жыл бұрын
Me who has never realized there was something up with your voice
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
it sounds like i’m getting quite and louder at random points for no reason
@ArcJupiter2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekerHead I haven't noticed it. Sounds just fine even through headphones.
@SideFighterz Жыл бұрын
My list Best fighter jets 1.) MiG 29/ F 16 2.)F 14 Tomcat 3.) MiG 21 4.)MiG 23 5.) Tornado
@Uchiha_Cat_2 жыл бұрын
God i love the J7E i always run it since it’s impossible to use an F5E to turn fight. 20g aim9j’s are out dated
@yuluoxianjun2 жыл бұрын
yes,i just think that 9J is weaker than 9G,9J always cant touch a over 3km enemy,while 9G sometimes can
@rm25692 жыл бұрын
Imo you need to control for Br; Br for Br something like the Ariete or the Su-11 might be better.
@gsilvy4k5702 жыл бұрын
This video is talking about top tier.
@seananderson62452 жыл бұрын
I swear ur going to make me grind China but is it worth it for only that one plane? Is the j8 not relevant?
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
the J8 is good but it’s just a mig21 with 4 PL5s. i wouldn’t personally grind china just for the j7, mig29 is coming out soon anyway, but if you want go for it
@yuluoxianjun2 жыл бұрын
China will grow larger...J-10 and J16 J20 are all good dogfighter
@granpajestaz2922 жыл бұрын
Come on how many Tries did it take to take out the F-14 with the Phantom
@tonycondom26622 жыл бұрын
Hope Gaijin soon will give china tech tree J7G... the final mig21, this one even can dog fight with F16early model
@1947-o4h2 жыл бұрын
Do you like the Bangladesh camo for J7e?
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
no, i just regularly use camos that i think are ugly
@skill.issue.2 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE RIGHT about our us scraching our head confused about why F104.ASA but why this plane? it has terrible alert radar the F104 is better the the F104.ASA
@theendo44442 жыл бұрын
J-7E Mentioned! LESSGOO!
@InterstellarTaco2 жыл бұрын
Mig 21 SAU is number 5. 6 R60MKs, maneuverable, and fast.
@Lajkonik521252 жыл бұрын
What about the f5e ? :(
@miguel_mt252 жыл бұрын
Harrier GR1 to do a lot of money and grind British line.. and get the GR7..
@undead4752 жыл бұрын
I would argue that the mig 19 is the best 1v1 dogfight aircraft. I personally have not done a 1v1 between the mig 19 and the J7, but i have with every other plane. And the mig 19 either slaughters the other plane, or slaughters with extra steps. I would love to test it, but until i see it, the mig 19 will be the best in my eyes.
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done this, the J7 wins rather handily
@undead4752 жыл бұрын
@@SeekerHead i have honestly never had a youtuber as big as you are actually respond to one of my comments. Thanks bro, means a lot
@FullThrottleRacing5352 жыл бұрын
J7 flys like a mig19 on steroids
@Schnauzi Жыл бұрын
All of us think on nr. 1 is the Mig 29, but its the j7e
@finnveldman26232 жыл бұрын
One plane can consistently murder a j7e in a 1v1 dogfight and that is the italian aerfer ariete and i can say so from personal experience
@bendoggo94082 жыл бұрын
How is the 104asa on here and not the viggen at #5
@SeekerHead2 жыл бұрын
the viggen has all bottom tier missiles
@zmeu_md38312 жыл бұрын
introduction is too long ,but in general good vid ,like
@ichich57282 жыл бұрын
The F14 has nö Changes in a dogfight with the j7E
@fishingnotcatching1112 жыл бұрын
Everyone sleeps on the Kfir IMO, I've got top BR Russia, Japan, and Israel and I always feel untouchable in 1v1s when I'm in the Kfir
@_bernat91322 жыл бұрын
bros sleeping on the a21rb
@aquaice10292 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that the j7 can pull up to 11 and sometime 13G