Sega Accidentally Made A Gaming PC... And I Bought One

[@BringusStudios]

I cracked the BIOS password with the help of some Discord members by brute forcing a hash of it from a dump I made of the BIOS chip. It's i7DAXst4 if you have one of these and want to get into it. Here's a video where I go over what's in the BIOS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn_LZ6B8pcetrLs

[@elektrokinesis4150]

dammit i wanted one

[@sweeperton]

make more i will buy

[@BringusStudios]

@@sweeperton just let my supplier know I'm ready for another order 🫡

[@AllFun.s]

ckup tawu

[@andrewsadach3194]

​@@BringusStudiosjust so you're aware there are multiple games for this system. For example FATE/ GRAND ORDER (an Android mobile game) has an Arcade port for this system.

[@Goober_tony]

I hate it when I accidentally make a fully functional computer from the ground up, darn wednesdays.

[@2rotten4you]

just like when i accidentally make a device that "looks like a bomb🤓" when its clearly a rc car that has a pound of C4.

[@kazi1]

Lol

[@angeryboiii3051]

@@2rotten4you I'm calling the cops 🤓

[@fyoozhn]

What?

[@MadKingRALM]

​@@2rotten4youdid you make a schematic? Sounds like a fun weekend project

[@kizzmequik70four]

The full StarHorse setups in Japanese arcades are wild. The floors they're on are often smoking floors too, so it really has a feel of a somewhat sleazy casino.

[@SergeantExtreme]

Many of them also accept illegal cash bets, so yes: sleazy casino indeed!

[@bcerrati]

i mean OTB is a pretty sleazy place. i guess no matter where you are or what format you do it in... horse betting is sleezy.

[@ClosestNearUtopia]

What I truly wonder is, are those machines connected in some way so your always able to bet agains real people instead of the cpu whenever your alone. I like the crazynes of this all xD

[@skimmaster5000]

I played it and lost 100 lol

[@foxxy46213]

​@@SergeantExtremeyeah was thinking why make a horse betting SIM but then remembered gambling is illegal so it made sense then 😂

[@nikodemgorka834]

14:43 Let's take a moment of silence to appreciate how clean this CPU cooler is.

[@chainedhex]

sega does what nintendont

[@Talking__Ben]

Secod

[@brwed]

nice

[@pideperdonus2]

Gamecube?

[@Ordlnary_Gamer]

@@pideperdonus2bro what? that was the battle between genesis and the snes

[@pabloescoe]

Ain’t that the truth

[@oblivious_kawa]

Kinda insane that a PC built for a horse betting game where mainly the only thing on screen is a menu with some horses in the back is able to run rdr2 at max settings 1080p

[@UncannyBubbleGum]

Multiple screens*

[@reptilez13]

The other games the ALLS systems are used for are a bit more demanding it seems

[@keiyakins]

I mean it's built for horse games of course it can run RDR2

[@mewity]

@@UncannyBubbleGum 1 screen* its a satellite unit, not a server

[@gentuxable]

Maybe cheaper to get higher end systems in volume than anything lower end that can only be used for that and not for other systems? Like Sega has to have each different PC in their internal stocking system and have supply for the duration of contract in case of failure. From the images I guess they won't just have them running for only a couple of years.

[@WYouTuber]

Imagine they make a second revision of the ALLS, and put the revision letter at the beginning, so the first revision would be A-ALLS, while the second would be B-ALLS.

[@caden-h9h]

💀

[@c.l.h.bokhorst6687]

It's amazing how the human mind works...

[@Xantylon74]

C.O.C.K in the video and B-ALLS here, that’s to much for me!

[@jacksonmcquade7888]

The "service" button is commonly used in arcades for staff to cycle through the settings without having to hookup a keyboard and mouse. They generally connect to a board that connects to a serial interface on the PC

[@dmscoon]

On most arcade machine, the service button actually give credits while the test button will take you to the settings The arcade industry has a lot of terminology that contradicts logic and the terms used by other industries

[@jacksonmcquade7888]

@@dmscoon Very true, I've even seen machines where it dispenses owed tickets, no logic at all 😂

[@fuzzywzhe]

Arcades don't exist anymore than Internet cafes do at this point.

[@dmscoon]

@@fuzzywzhe I own an arcade… the industry is stronger than ever

[@fuzzywzhe]

@@dmscoon Where do you own an arcade? And the industry is NOT stronger than ever, it was at its peak in the early 1990s. I think the only place where there's an arcade is Dave and Busters, and that area is basically deserted. I haven't seen an arcade machine in like 10 years, anywhere.

[@pideperdonus2]

I love computers with a fan strong enough to make it fly, literally.

[@stargazersdance]

Same

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes

[@lightingkid2010]

to enable this function, run cyberpunk. or an 8k video.

[@dunxy]

3000rpm noctua industrials x 9, my system flies further (and explodes far,far less!) than spaceX 🤪

[@WiiNV]

L🤭L Dell Dimension Leaf Blower limited edition 🌬️🍃

[@SpaaacceCore]

21:09 Filming OBS off a monitor with a camera 😂 love it

[@EnergeticSpark63]

hi

[@SianaGearz]

As an industrial PC, it was absolutely guaranteed to have either FSP or Delta PSU in there.

[@lucasrem]

Sega did needed no support gear, why stickers on it ? Why you PC nerdy people need Delta ? Are you Asian ?

[@lucasrem]

Samsung Taipei build ? domestic only ?

[@Endermyne2]

You are an industrial pc?

[@SpadesG]

Horse Power?

[@SianaGearz]

@@Endermyne2 Excellent, thank you.

[@RubyOS-hb1rg]

That is crazy how Sega used an i5 8500 and GTX 1060 instead of a cheap arm CPU with 2011 smartphone level graphics.

[@Alefjj]

This is something that Nintendo would do

[@Jaroartx]

@@Alefjj 😂😂😂

[@fireaza]

Thing is, if Nintendo went that route, as you're implying they should have, the Switch wouldn't be portable and it would cost twice as much. There's more to console hardware than just raw power. And considering how many Switches Nintendo has sold, it would appear they made the correct decision.

[@CraftyTheFox]

taito did that! kind of.

[@elektrokinesis4150]

you apparently have no idea how much that would cost considering the other games this PC runs

[@wilddog73]

I love the idea of considering this a semi-official Sega console. Amazing video.

[@mpeake248]

Sega has been making arcade hardware with PC parts since the Lindbergh in 2005. The one difference between the Lindbergh and the other PC based arcade boards is that it ran Linux. It's just cheaper to use off the shelf parts, which is why you see it in Sega, Taito, and Bamco boards.

[@erzajumeidi]

Considering they used to spend millions for it, it's a no brainer decision, when pc graphics leapfrog arcade with graphics card era, pc cost only a fraction of the price with modern interface and easier development, and mostly ran on windows, for easier porting and flexible choice of engine or assets that can be reused. edit: also i might add the arcade business slowed down after home console got mainstream, and sega got hit hard with saturn and dreamcast, they have to cut cost to be able to keep arcade business and transition to pc is important. Then, separate from the arcade the amusement part of sega including gamble machines is also part of their business bigger than gaming.

[@DioBrando-qr6ye]

@@erzajumeidi True, the only reason why gaming companies used to make their own hardware back in the days was because off the shelf parts didn't exist at first, and when they started becoming available PCs were shit at running games for a long time. IIRC the first arcade machines based on PC hardware were 3DFx systems.

[@memeplayer1923]

Sega also made PC games in 1990s. They rarely make games during 2000s, before 2010s resurgence. One of Sega's PC games in 2000s was The House of the Dead III, it's PC port being released in 2005.

[@atomicskull6405]

Capcom uses PC based arcade hardware too.

[@kwizzeh]

@@atomicskull6405 They haven't made their own arcade hardware for 2 decades. For SFIV and SFV they used Taito Type-X variant boards. Edit: words

[@nullvariable2164]

There is NOT an overwrite for the bios password, these machines are quite secure. This is a special mobo model Gigabyte made for SEGA where the password is hard coded into the firmware itself. That also means that every StarHorse 4 bios password is the same should you find someone with it. It's also impossible to normally update the bios without serious hardware engineering skill (if there is a consumer update) because the versions won't match up to proceed. I went through this same ordeal about 2 years ago and had some of the first of these in the US that I'm aware of. Be very careful with the original drive or you can find yourself bitlockered out of it if it detects you've changed the spec of the machine even a little bit. eg. If you plug it into another machine you'll kill it. The serial ports on the ALLS you have should connect and control any LEDs and the vacuum fluorescent display (VFD) made by Futaba (card reader display) and are local to the seat. I believe the satellites connect to the main unit via ethernet. Even if you got your hands on a USB key to attempt a boot (SEGA reclaims them so they're rare), it likely would not boot without detecting the main terminal and it's possible the drive's game data has been wiped (mine were) before shipment. AFAIK, there is no community to restoring and making StarHorse 4 playable... so a PC gaming rig is a good recycle use case.

[@primus711]

Why he just needs to flash the bios to the consumer model

[@hossosplitternacken7819]

the Bios Key is 000000000000000000000000000000

[@nullvariable2164]

@@primus711 it won't work. The firmware is custom and the password is baked. The custom arcade bios version will not view the consumer bios as a valid flashable alternative without some hardware or firmware hacking.

[@art1st001]

Well, in the pinned comment, he says he did It, so maybe your research is kinda outdated

[@sasdallas765]

i7DAXst4

[@x3wildcard]

That PSU is not overspecced, and it's of good manufacture as well. Targeting 60% of average load is a good place to be for PSU output because it's ~generally~ where the PSU is its most efficient. This not only saves on electricity cost but also minimizes waste heat. Both are important considerations for this machine's intended application. Good on Sega. They clearly selected parts with an eye towards cost savings *except where it mattered most* for reliability.

[@bluein_]

There ARE private communities that share you private server configurations for Star Horse 4, but they are invite-only, and they only let you access servers in exchange for sending data in that SSD in case there are any new or missing content in the satellites or servers you possess. This also means they supply the software to people who do not own it to upgrade their own older hardware, or play it at home/online using a private stream of the Server. I don't have any more invites, but I'm sure someone will eventually come out to send one to you.

[@WW1N73R]

Star Horse masonry

[@holysol]

...why would you taunt me with such information... god i wanna play it again so bad

[@WW1N73R]

@@holysolbro has a gambling addiction

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

​@@WW1N73Rhe definitely does. Completely unrelated but why tf is gambling still allowed and how is it possible to get addicted to losing money.

[@d33pblu3]

Huh, so there’s basically a secret society on the internet dedicated to an obscure Japanese pseudo-gambling game.

[@11531337]

20:53 "what is my purpose?" You install windows "Oh, my god.."

[@telchar]

Yo this Sega ALLS is practically the same hardware I built my PC with in 2016 - the GTX 1060 was honestly a great card and has a solid lifespan. The friend I sold the PC to still uses it regularly as far as I know.

[@averylarsen2511]

Im pretty sure my dad still has the 1060 in his computer but he may have upgraded in the past year or so. However it was still there when i moved out

[@IndianaDipper194]

my 1070 is still kickin butt in 2024 starfield is even playable, barely. have yet to find a game i cant run 30+ frames

[@flixelgato1288]

@@IndianaDipper194try Star Citizen lol. When my 1070 manages 30 fps there, it feels buttery smooth compared to the rest of the experience.

[@Wildlink123]

I have a GTX 1080 SC from that era and the only thing wrong with it is it has a fan that's dying more and more by the month. Under full load I can still see it spinning as if it was like on a "Cool and quiet" setting or fan curve. Yet it still reaches 2020Mhz on the main clock, and can crush RDR2 at 1080p on ultra still. So I'm happy with it still.

[@kabobawsome]

1060 is what's still in my MAIN pc and it still runs AAA games coming out today on medium-low settings with some finesse. The 1000s line were some insanely good cards. I'm starting to look to upgrade bc one of the fans is very slowly dying and I'm hitting the point where it's hard for new games to hit 60+ even on the lowest settings, but god damn, at this point it lasted me almost 7 years (think I bought in mid-2016). Such a little trooper and it will retire well to a testbed PC where it can run light benchmarks for other hardware to it's heart's content, until the fans peacefully stop spinning.

[@lordhostile]

as far as the Bios jumper thing goes, on most boards you can just remove the CR2023 battery and then short the battery leads on the mainboard to clear the bios.

[@espertalhao041]

You don't need to go that far, but make sure there's no power on the PC.

[@mcha0_]

The password was baked into the BIOS firmware.

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes

[@peterbowman5358]

Worked with thousands of motherboards and think this has come up a couple times and didn't think of that, ty!

[@_iczyzy]

I receive laptops with passwords like this all the time, really there's no way to remove it by shorting anything or removing the battery. I always need to reflash the bios, its really time consuming, but unfortunately is the only way

[@nyjetskater]

“Listen to this CPU, its the equivalent to asking for the manager” *rolls royce airplane engine noises*

[@matthewtjeerdsma2549]

This really takes me back to my PC troubleshooting days. Things that seem like they should be so simple very often aren't, and searching the Internet sometimes helps, but often doesn't. PCs can be such a pain sometimes. Also, the "I was gonna do that anyway, but you're not supposed to tell me to do that." Was pretty much my reaction reading something similar in my motherboard manual. Even if it works, it feels like taking a shortcut that you're not supposed to talk about.

[@harleyme3163]

dunno, this was in the Dos 6.22 days, only ever error I had to fix was compatability..

[@Wildlink123]

My moment was when I was trying to diagnose what died in a PC that didn't give error codes, but I knew it was between the CPU, RAM, or PSU, and I was like 14 and learned the paperclip trick to jump a PSU without connecting it to the MOBO, and had that SAME exact feeling! "I know I'm not supposed to do that, and you're not supposed to tell me, but I'm gonna do it" lmao

[@heavenly2k]

I've never watched your videos before but I'm instantly enjoying this, you're charismatic, your editing is good, your storytelling is good, and you're funny. not to mention you picked a super interesting to talk about, and it's even more wild that you bought the computer.

[@xozegraf7179]

yes

[@quest9982]

this is a 2nd comment

[@20a10v]

Panik: “I’m gonna be coming” Kalm: “-at this thing with a $400 lens.”

[@steve-sc1vr]

So my grandpa was a technician for a while and when he had gone to Japan for around a month he was working on this racing arcade cabinet(probably sega or sony) and what he saw was a straight up PS2 mashed in with a gamecube and a whole rat's nest of wires everywhere. When he had asked about it the owner said that is was so they could quickly load data from a memory card and the gamecube was good at rendering so that's why they were kinda just fused together into an abomination

[@Cullenmeacham]

Thats kinda dope tho

[@steve-sc1vr]

@@Cullenmeacham it looked like some star wars crap or the brain of a supercomputer

[@argoplus]

i am pretty sure this is the nintendo triforce system (basically namco, sega, and nintendo partnered up to make an arcade machine, hence why it's called triforce) the powerhouse itself is the gamecube while the memory card slot is taken from namco's system 246 (which is basically a ps2 with some arcade adjustments)

[@steve-sc1vr]

@@argoplus but the weird thing is that most of the games are running on the ps2 while the Gamecube is just being used a a GPU, so the ps2 is doing all the calculations while the Gamecube is just making it look all pretty pretty. or at least from what i can see from the photo. still a very cool machine to see nonetheless

[@argoplus]

@@steve-sc1vr may i see the photo? that sounds so cool all i know is that there are only a few PS2 based arcade systems Konami Python, and Namco System 246

[@joeyplatt8869]

Be careful about dumping. If its anything like chunithm ( sega rhythm game on an ALLS/ Nu ) they are bitlocker enabled. Your acae-(numbers) is the boxes swrial number. also you have an MX2 which is kinda the second strongest ALLS ( behind UX2 )

[@bazem]

To reset the BIOS you just need to open a paper clip and touch both contacts on the board. If you're worried about your finger being in contact with the paper clip, wrap some insulating tape on the part that you hold.

[@EdoVro]

You definitely gotta try dumping the SSD of the ALLS, you could maybe get the EXE for the game or maybe the key that the computer is looking for.

[@SadKris]

There's probably a *lot* of copyright issues with that, especially if he shared it online

[@cleothebirb7973]

No go, the keychip decrypts the game

[@cleothebirb7973]

@@mcha0_ arcade data is a very different beast, ESPECIALLY SEGA.

[@The-Zer0th-Law]

@@SadKris Encryption Keys are not protect by copyright. Everything else in the SSD must be tho

[@AlexCheerNZ]

@@cleothebirb7973 no, arcade games are still dumped day zero, especially SEGA. SEGA had an issue on their servers that allowed people to download game packages without needing the actual arcade PCB for a long time (pretty sure it's fixed now)

[@PeetHobby]

Horse Gambling games are among the oldest arcade games I think. Initially, they were mechanical, but with advancements in technology, digital versions like this one emerged.

[@SergeantExtreme]

It's still one of the most popular forms of gambling in general.

[@stefanforrer2573]

people gambling on fictional horse races? how fucking stupid can humanity get.....?

[@stephsteph4503]

You're not wrong! Saw one from the 1930s being sold on American Pickers the other day. It was mostly made of wood!

[@robbyrobot3303]

Konami still makes a mechanical/digital hybrid. It's massive and has dual flatscreens suspended over the mechanical horses and track. Then terminals with individual screens surround the perimeter

[@shmikex]

Go to horse tracks in Kentucky, Wyoming, Virginia, and Oregon. You'll see the marriage of Slot Machine graphics with Horse Wagering math based on past races. It's called Historical Horse Racing.

[@FFReaper260]

you are the only youtuber that i watch around for like 40 min and not get bored

[@Dimma205gti]

For bios removal. You can purchase a Ch341a programmer for around £10. I use these almost daily for motherboard and gpu bios programming. Good bang for buck with the voltage mod.

[@pootan517]

Also looks like there's enough clearance to use the sketchy clamps too instead of de/resoldering lol

[@juneibyou]

a lot of modern arcade games run on some flavour of PC, it's a fun rabbit hole to go down (and not at all a gateway to playing japanese rhythm games at home for free, nothing to see here konami lawyers)

[@infecta42]

been looking for this comment

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

Huh. Makes me curious for a Wangan rig.

[@milkytrackz]

me when i beat my mania

[@BernardoPazelloAndretta]

definetly not that, nuh uh no way you can play rhythm games at home am i right?

[@Astom_is_stupid]

Yes 100 %​@@BernardoPazelloAndretta

[@markbevan5771]

Great stuff I’ve just found your channel and I’ll keep watching

[@GeFeldz]

FSP does have the capacity to produce world-class PSUs. Solid company.

[@jazzWF]

from what i've seen at work it seems like they make custom psu's for basically anything if you give them enough business

[@squirrel6687]

Yup, even Intel uses them in the NUC Extreme lineup. From the Skull to Ghost to Beast Canyons for which I've owned, they've all been FSP. I still have 400W FSP Zen fanless PSU still kicking!

[@harleyme3163]

psu? lol a battery with a charger attached = a psu like they need to be "special"

[@SianaGearz]

@@harleyme3163 Yes. These are safety critical parts. They have stringent crossload and ripple requirements and they separate the human bits from death. When they age, they are not allowed to age in an unsafe manner. SMPS engineering is exceptionally hard and usually goes wrong without experience in this area, like you usually receive working prototypes after a little iteration, but once you go full scale production, all hell breaks loose. Certification can get icky as well. Anyway FSP is one of the trustworthy suppliers.

[@ChadHelton1975]

FSP=

[@DougSalad]

Subbed for the fun custom consoles, stayed for weird obscure computers. Yours is one of my favorite channels I've stumbled across recently, Bringleton.

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes autocharge after trial ends

[@breadcrumbs85]

I found a few different things inside arcade games when I used to fix them, some had PC's, and the Time Crisis cab we had was a PS1 board, and the license to operate the machine was on a PS1 memory card, the USB chip port you can see is likely something similar where the arcade obtains a license to operate the machine, and that port checks for a "key" containing the license for a certain amount of time. Can remember if I worked on any ALLS but I definitely used to install Lindbergh's. The hardware was kinda a secret so I wasnt allowed to open them on the job, we always got a replacement and sent the old one back. I should find one so I can tear it down. I was impressed with how they could be turned on at 8am and run all day playing countless games until closing at 11pm... I wonder what was in em :P

[@1ivory.]

I guarantee that eventually people are going to start a whole community for getting these things working with original star horse 4

[@KenjiUmino]

the machines are a bit too new for that ... usually, this does not happen until there are only like a hand full of those machines left worldwide and even less people who really worked on these machines and know of their quirks and how to get them working again

[@e_j_]

Up until 4:34 i completely forgot this was a video about a Sega computer, ya got me hooked in good. Great vid!

[@FortyTwoSu42]

Arcade technician here. I've worked for a few of the big F.E.Cs in America and I completely vibe with how he talks about arcade cabinets. Normal arnt expected to see the inside but they are BEAUTIFUL in their own nerdy way. It gives me goosebumps lol. Side note, our Sega games almost never go down, they're solid machines! (Imcase your curious, the absolute worst game I've worked on at all FECs is VRSaber, all my coworkers have hated it.)

[@TheKrensada]

I love the Sega chant being used as a bleep for cussing.

[@xersoslexersos6366]

Went to a Japanese arcade yesterday. This was the second most popular game there behind a rhythm game.

[@phonghai87]

hope that rhythm game is project diva arcade :)))

[@haraberu]

Normal, anime girls, or sengoku generals mode?

[@Goatgarien]

@@phonghai87 lol funny joke, project diva is one of the least popular rhythm games in Japan top 5 most popular are taiko, iidx, sdvx, chunithm, and maimai. (yes DDR is only really super popular in America)

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes

[@sirflimflam]

@@Goatgarien Is DDR still popular in the US? I used to be a massive DDR maniac in the early 2000s, but these days it looks like the only machines that survived are the recentish A series and even then it seems like there's a literal handful in the entire country.

[@sanjijito185]

A bit late for the video but a tip for preloading any OS is using a VM on your main pc and use a external sata to usb adapter, this saved me a lot of time for preloading linux in a very slow old machine i got here

[@mkunkel7]

I work for a large gaming (slot machines) company and video horse betting is actually quite popular in certain parts of the east coast and Asia. To answer your question most likely yes, your guess that there's server(s) running the video display while the terminals have a separate computing module is probably accurate. In fact just about all modern video slots and betting machines you'd see in a casino have computing enclosures very similar to the ALLS. They're usually smaller, but are essentially just customized PCs. For gambling/betting the boards are usually configured to include authentication chips or code upon boot to prevent someone like you from plugging in a keyboard and messing with it and to comply with strict state, tribal, and federal laws on gambling machines. So a person usually can't just grab one and use it easily as a desktop PC.

[@FurukawaAkane]

The casino I worked security at for two years and change on the west coast brought in a horse betting machine with a real simulated track probably a year into me working there. Got insanely popular, but then about eight months after they brought in a huge set of virtual pai gow and baccarat tables and kinda dropped a bit in popularity. Still was a big hit. I still hear the announcer in my dreams

[@requim_hdtv]

I love how you zoomed in on the scout and soldier when you said suffer at 27:07, its very jarring to see that since I actually made that exact poster!

[@deralbtraumritter8573]

My favorite arcade games of all time were: Virtual On, Air/Ace Combat (I think, just remember it was a jet game in one of the last arcades in a mall 45 mins from me), Jurassic Park gun game (I’d play it instead of the rides at Hersey Park, then again my foot was in a cast boot), and House Of The Dead? Time Cops? Idk. State College was a refuge for Nostalgia. An arcade place that was as big as a bowling alley. A comic store. Even laser tag. And a crappy video game store (had old games and systems but they sold Atari consoles for $400-$600/ w/ limited accessories. And an arcade area the size of a bathroom).

[@terrafirma-xb7ts]

Ace combat? Based.

[@goilup]

iirc the BIOS likely disables the Turbo on the CPU among other things that would lose performance for the sake of stability when operating 24 hours a day for multiple years. So any bad performance could be down to that. If you want a fun challenge, see if you can reflash the BIOS with the consumer one through windows using something like AFUWIN or whatever the equivalent is (of course back up the SEGA one first) but then you could access the settings.

[@tomyyoung2624]

OH YES!

[@el_primer_y_el_ultimo_caiman]

I remember being totally flabbergasted a few months ago when I saw a giant section dedicated to Star Horse at an arcade in Kichijoji. There were only a couple people playing it, though this was late in the night. BTW, the videos are super wide because they play at the arcade.

[@mattswestone20]

The fact that he used the sega sound to bleep his swearing is why im subscribed

[@glassramen]

If you want to remove edge permanently you need to take full control of the directory, wipe it clean and remove all permissions aside from your own, then go into the registry if memory serves to essentially lock windows out from redownloading and installing it again. I haven't had edge on my pc in a long time. It does occasionally somehow get around it, but when it does you just delete it again and it won't come back for a long while. Just checked and it's still gone for me, just a shortcut in the start menu remains that I'm too lazy to delete. It also allows me to check if it comes back since the shortcut will become valid again. There are guides online about it, but usually it requires a bit of persistence to tell microsoft to fuck off with it. There are also tools you can get to force delete things that windows cries about, ymmv with them but they have been useful to me in the past. KZbin is giving me the "keep comments respectful" popup. I guess they don't like people talking shit about other large corporations.

[@Mad4400]

Ever since begrudgingly moving over to Win10, I have made it my life mission to remove every instance of edge that magically pops up. I've never experienced such desperateness from a company for you to use a certain one of their products. From the way the online help links (via edge) pose as settings options to the way it chooses to be the pdf viewer for your system, even when you have a perfectly good copy of acrobat installed. I would be so damn pissed if I was one of the users that actually paid for Win10.

[@umtrappershitposter5869]

bro hates edging 💀

[@felixjohnson3874]

Do people actually think this does anything? Congrats, you uninstalled edge, do you really believe edge itself was doing the shady shit that made you want to uninstall it? Obviously not, windows is what's doing that crap behind the scenes. All removing edge does is cut a few megabytes off your disk, remove the icon, and make your system less stable, and if that's what you want then just leave the closet and go suckless.

[@FantasticExplorers]

Ducking worth it!!! TY

[@doughboywhine]

if microsoft wants respect, they should try earning it

[@kemi242]

According to Sega Retro, the graphics card was made by ELSA, which was originally a German company that gone bankrupt leaving a Japanese subsidiary surviving. It would make perfect sense for Sega to choose a Japanese manufacturer, however I'd check it with GPU-Z or a similar utility to solve the mistery.

[@Windows98R]

I remember having a ELSA branded 970 back then and it didn’t look like a consumer card at all. So likely true since that card also came from a parts corner store in Japan.

[@mateuszzimon8216]

Now Elsa make Chinese and rx580 2048SP 8GB.

[@patmer6232]

That fan is like the ordinary PS4 fan

[@K9arcade]

As an arcade restorer and repairer it feels like a disservice to use this for gaming, but modern arcade hardware are basically modified PCs so I don't blame the curiosity. I don't know much about star horse gameplay but it more or less feels like the modern equivalent of Derby owners club, however the DOC games focused on breeding and stats of the horse as well as racing it so the gameplay isn't quite the same, the satellite setup however is pretty darn similar. the fact the ALLS uses parts like this makes it easier to repair by an operator instead of having to search for weirdly proprietary parts. Sega's choice in specs suggest the idea of "a device we can put on site that will last, isn't too costly, but will also be future-proofed for what this game will do". Anyway, Long Live the Arcades

[@SamP0rterBridges]

This is how modern slot machines are too. I used to fix them for work. Lots of i5 and 10 series cards. Older ones used a lot of Quadro cards for some reason.

[@K9arcade]

@@SamP0rterBridges fancy seeing CAD cards in a slot machine but I guess we gotta see those animations in action

[@weene875]

The GTX 1060 has a feature where it can still function in a low power state if the PCIe power cable isn't connected. It should be noted that performance obviously takes a hit in this state.

[@_SixthDay_]

So would connecting it to the power supply boost performance?

[@qhronoz1554]

@@_SixthDay_ yes more power = more performance (usually)

[@RetroGamerBB]

Better than most integrated gfx these days too

[@thegeforce6625]

interesting, the only gpu that i know of that also did that was the geforce fx 5950 ultra, where the system would boot up normally but the graphics driver would throw up a error box telling the user to plug in the external power plug.

[@ccricers]

I'd be pretty nice if it can run almost like a GTX 1050 in that state. Just with differences in bus width and VRAM.

[@RoboGameOfficial]

30:50 For anyone wondering what this means, it means that the card does not support Vulkan, despite Vulkan being released 2016 and the card being made 2019.

[@DeadPixel1105]

1:02 To be honest, when I hear "Sega" the very first thing that reflexively pops into my head is the arcade scene - not the console scene.

[@Larry]

I thought this might be about the Mega PC Sega made with Amstrad in the early '90s

[@W-C-F-o1k]

Hello you!

[@TheNeoSkyte]

I was thinking that or the Japan exclusive Sega TerraDrive.

[@ConcreteRobo.]

Larry's Money

[@AurumUsagi]

Ah yes, the console-cum-PC, priced in a way that only Amstrad can!

[@memeplayer1923]

Yes, Sega also made PC games in 90s and early 2000s, before a hiatus before late 2010s. One of their 2000s PC games were The House of the Dead III (arcade original in 2002, PC port in 2005).

[@zwenkwiel816]

I dont often laugh out loud at videos but that conqueror of Celsius and Kelvin bit really got me.

[@hansdetuinkabouter]

I have a buddy whoworks with arcades, i believe those graphics cards are actually slightly rare, and commisioned by sega.

[@napowolf]

The "fantasy" part is actually historical, referring to the Sengoku period(戦国時代) of Japan. The school girl part is likely a collab with a Japanese mobile game called "Uma Musume Pretty Derby." Personally I don't play it so I know little about the actual game, but basically the girls are the horses, yeah.

[@freeculture]

With the girl anthropomorphism craze of things like ships, tanks, etc, something like horses seems natural in comparison. Anything can be considered a cute girl for artistic reasons.

[@sqorng]

On Uma Collab, probably not, couldn't really find anything on that. My sources include googling, asking several Uma players, and even Indonesian with US citizenship living in JP who spends most of his food money gambling in all kinds of waifu games, WoWs, and at arcades

[@gabrielmalta1962]

@@sqorng you seem to hang out with a very interesting crowd lol. Pretty fun!

[@spittertron4920]

I believe you mean Son Goku

[@ShadowoftheDude]

Honestly, virtual horse racing and betting seems like a really good idea. No cruelty to horses and, depending on how the system works, you might even be able to mitigate the gambling.

[@benvanoers1118]

One thing to note is that these are extremely efficient because they only have one purpose. so for gaming and saving power, go with an ALLS

[@nighty7158]

Efficient? It's just normal PC hardware, consumer parts.

[@benvanoers1118]

@@nighty7158 they are oem components undervolted to meet the exact performance and energy requirements set by Sega. therefore they do not use nearly as much energy. Consumer cards are extremely inefficient and undervolting helps a lot without even decreasing the performance by more than 5 percent in most cases. Especially with nvidia cards.

[@parknich081]

undervolting can actually increase performance in alot of cases since you can overclock more and it usually has a net gain in performance @@benvanoers1118

[@JustPlainRob]

Star Horse 4 was a big inspiration for the Uma Musume series. Horse race betting is a massive pastime in Japan because almost all other gambling is illegal.

[@Enchurito]

What about pachinko

[@JustPlainRob]

You're legally not supposed to be able to win money back from pachinko. The way they get around it is to have you buy a special coin or token from the prize shop. Then you can go around the corner to a 'different business' who will buy the coins off you for the amount of your winnings. @@Enchurito

[@nishaanth1507]

33:00 Well, that's how an arcade machine would sound...

[@stonefish98]

That power supply has a 2 year protection plan available from Arby's. Incredible. What a time to be alive.

[@MrNecryptic]

...a-Arby's?

[@yousefslimani99]

It's unbelievable that SEGA is still making these hardwares even today! Their arcade quality is such an unbelievable to look at! SEGA is my favorite video game company of all time!

[@mediumzoning]

omg donchan

[@yousefslimani99]

@@mediumzoning UGH these people!

[@CupoChinoMusic]

I still play maimai DX so yeah they definitely do still make cabinets

[@parknich081]

is that racially motivated@@yousefslimani99

[@sas408]

SEGA bot?

[@jeffbridges2191]

25:00 I know I'm hella late but if you use a separate chrome profile you can be logged in to 2 chrome accounts on 2 different windows of chrome without anything getting mixed up between them. Just click the little man icon in the top right and add your accounts in there, then you can swap between them or have 2 windows on separate profiles. I use it all the time at work

[@mitrikgaduk347]

Honestly, those are some of the best thermals I've seen in YEARS. Damn thing is built like a truck and one would expect it because it's meant to be left on 24/7. That doesn't excuse the ridiculously good performance on anything but the most demanding of titles. Slap this thing inside an actual arcade cabinet and you've got a literal 24/7, basically never have to maintain, emulation king, especially if you want to do old school stuff (don't get me wrong, there are tons of cheaper options, but I don't know if they would last as long as this batshit contraption).

[@robbyrobot3303]

You gotta look up the heatsink on the Namco 'System 357' built using the PS3 hardware which was notorious for overheating. It's massive

[@logandehaven8537]

"Hi ShitHead" XD 4:48

[@KostiantynChu]

GTX 1060 6gb and i5 8xxx is a pretty good and balanced combo for 1080p without RT. Had it for 5 years. I still have i5 8600K and it is rocking RTX 3060 pretty good actually

[@kingklump]

I actually remember another computer tear down by another creator, but it was a while back. You MAY be able to re-create the chip if you can find somewhere that has the chip info archived. Then you'd just use a USB drive to authenticate. I honestly wish I could remember where I saw it.

[@ildalailamer8341]

Starhorse4 was pretty popular, back in the day (i'm old) in my neck of the woods, because arcade owners (illegal ones) would pay real money for the bets. And the game was surprisling amazing for how deep and complicated it was mechanic-wise. It was the best representation of the experience of horse-betting without having to go to the horses races.

[@Drak976]

LOL this whole time I thought what they're talking about somehow tied into horse races because my Dad would take me to horse races and I would play some game maybe this one I have no idea would have been the late 80s early 90s.

[@twizz420]

@@Drak976 Does this game look like it was made in the late 80s or early 90s? Not even close. Smh

[@cericat]

@@Drak976 It was probably Winning Post (1993) the first Starhorse was released in 2000 on Naomi.

[@MaxwellTornado]

There's illegal arcades?

[@ildalailamer8341]

@@MaxwellTornado in my neck of the woods there were. Usually they had pirated cabinets and/or unregulated gambling machines, or use virtual gambling machines (like video poker/black jack) to gamble real money, like in the case of this virtual horse race. And let's just say many people got involved in loans with people they shouldn't ask loan from.

[@Quicksilveeer]

I have a computer with exact GPU and a really similar CPU so I knew the whole time it will play games like a champ

[@f5203]

I don't know wtf youtube is doing, but it's been recommending me such good videos and channels. Thank you for this awesome video. Subbed. Your editing is so fun.

[@generallyunimportant]

same, been pushing low-sub channels real hard recently.

[@gorkskoal9315]

lol same!

[@f5203]

@@generallyunimportant Right?!

[@kingevx6425]

Hi Bringus. I did a little bit of research on some forums, and the SEGA Alls system doesn't boot without the main server unit. Even if you got your hands on a key, or cracked the security, your chances with getting it to boot into Star Horse 4 would be very low.

[@BringusStudios]

Yeah I've come to that realization as well. Even arcade games fall victim to connected services

[@freeculture]

@@BringusStudios So your next step: Get the server 🙂

[@gabrielmalta1962]

@@BringusStudios while I agree with the sentiment this makes sense. In the game, you'd be betting against other players, so it makes sense the whole thing is connected to the main server

[@b4ttlemast0r]

That PC is actually pretty similar to the laptop I've been gaming on from 2018 till recently. Mine has a GTX 1050 Ti and i7-8750H. Works pretty well for PS4-era 1080p gaming.

[@Innomen]

It's great how you used a fraction of a second of the sega bootup noise to bleep your cursing. XD 29:20

[@metalfacemark]

I just had this video recommended to me, I really like the content and your personality, you got a new sub, keep up the good work!

[@samisonline99]

he sure did not "measly" underestimate the little GTX1060 train that could.. back in 2016 -19 it made most games playable at high to mid settings in the midst of the early gpus shortage! 😏

[@DrBagPhD]

Pretty sure I played an earlier version of this game (maybe 2 or 3) back in the day at my local arcade, it's more of a racing horse manager than a betting simulator, I only played it once or twice

[@WXSTANG]

I believe if you take a wire and short two of the pins on the CMOS chip, it will revert to it's original settings. I did that once after much research on the chip (which isn't common knowledge), after I bricked the card. Worked after shorting the pins!

[@skwydzee2716]

There are universal BIOS backdoor passwords sometimes, depending on the manufacturer of the mobo and BIOS. Its a slim chance but worth a shot - you can google them. I had about a 1/10 success rate with Dell and other prebuilt machines using that.

[@unsavedprogress1419]

Imagine if after the fall of the Dreamcast, Sega decided to create Steam before Valve did

[@adriankoch964]

It would have failed. No third party would have published on it since it would have a tiny userbase. Steam only suceeded after Valve bundled the highly anticipated Half-Life 2 with it. IIRC even the DVDs you bought in physical stores would install Steam alongside with them (Steam installation could be bypassed, but it wasn't obvious). That alone gave Steam a huge initial install base, that they then leveraged to convice other publishers on it. Then there were other Valve games like Counter Strike, which was as big as Forthnite was in 2018, proportionally to the size of the gaming market back then. Meanwhile in 2005 SEGA had Sonic Rush (and a bunch of other niche titles the most famous nowadays being the Yakuza series and some sports titles). Not excatly the same crowd puller a new plattform required that they force bundle with their plattform.

[@nighty7158]

Sega, a massive, greedy, company.. or Valve's Steam. Hmmm. Hmm.

[@thisname5ucks]

​@@nighty7158massive greedy company vs massive slightly less greedy company

[@deViant14]

@@thisname5ucks don't get it wrong. Valve is more profitable per employee than Google or Apple, with over $2 billion net value and 250 employees. You too can read about it on wikipedia. They're just greedy without doing it in a very harmful way. Except never producing HL3. That's kinda harmful. And also kinda greed based.

[@davebob4973]

calling a company greedy is kinda redundant at this point

[@Naufalfsidik]

i kinda like that "all metal material" type of case, looking really sturdy

[@amp888]

19:42 On the subject of pads instead of pins (to clear CMOS), this is common in enterprise/OEM hardware (including all the Supermicro servers I own or have fiddled with). For reference, you do indeed just short the pads. From a Supermicro manual: "Instead of pins, this "jumper" consists of contact pads to prevent accidental clearing of the CMOS. To clear the CMOS use a metal object such as a small screwdriver to touch both pads at the same time to short the connection." 23:26: For reading/writing the BIOS, you can use a programmer such as a CH341a. There are many tutorials on KZbin showing how to use this kind of tool.

[@Ferdig_Vibes]

The Sega noises when you curse is what cracks me up

[@thebboy1200]

Man I love your channel so much. You always bring the best content every. single. video!

[@AG1k]

25:16 MySims build music still slaps in 2023

[@BringusStudios]

I was really not sure if anybody was going to recognize it, incredible

[@AG1k]

@@BringusStudios it is etched in my mind 🙃

[@milo8425]

Your video editing and punch up skills are so good dude

[@LucasAndSuch]

no joke, these were almost the same specs as my old computer. I had a 1060 3gb, intel i5-8400, and before i had to replace the power supply, 500w.

[@DeadPixel1105]

Same here! My previous PC had an i5-8400 and GTX 1660.

[@blabla7310]

Lol and my current PC is still worse than your previous with FX 8350 and GTX 960 😂.

[@JJJoseJJJ]

Definitely a custom bios with password pre-set, since Gigabyte generated that bios for sega youd need to check if theres any way to force flash via USB port if MB has that feature or header to connect a daughter board to force flash it that way

[@nicolashoareau5992]

It doesn't need to be a custom BIOS. Most (all?) motherboards starting Windows 8 era have a separate chip for the password, which is not cleared by a CMOS reset and/or battery removal. There might be another way to reset it, but it is oftentimes not documented.

[@audiovectra]

Wow, I did not expect it to be that clean inside, I expected years of dust and neglect

[@douro20]

The NAOMI was very different from the Dreamcast. Its only similarity is the CPU. Even the base NAOMI had more and faster memory and the video hardware was nearly twice as fast. The bus communicated at the same speed as the CPU and there was even a very fast FPGA (nearly as fast as the CPU) for additional processing and an ultra high-speed interconnect which could be used to link boards together, which also ran at the same speed as the CPU. It cost as much or more as a good graphics workstation at the time. Also the Chihiro had twice the memory of the original Xbox.

[@AlexvrbX]

The original NAOMI boards have the same exact chips as the DC, same raw performance... except with lots more RAM. Double both the main RAM and VRAM, 4X the sound RAM. There's no "fast FPGA" on NAOMI. The NAOMI MULTIBOARD variant has a fast interconnect to allow you to use multiple NAOMI's in tandem, yes. But otherwise it was the same as NAOMI. This was rarely used as it was expensive to use multiple NAOMI MULTIBOARD uhh... boards. Hikaru uses a custom graphics chip that's very different, it was designed to excel at certain things like water and fire graphics. The NAOMI 2 included major upgrades, including a very fast custom Videologic transform + lighting (T&L) chip codename Elan, which could offload a lot of work that would normally have been dumped on the SH-2's.

[@thijsgaming01]

a sticker pack is a creative way to start the video tbh cool to see that :)

[@TheFrantic5]

I have encountered all sorts of fun oddities while operating and visiting arcades. A lot of Raw Thrills games have off the shelf PCs shoved in there, Deadstorm Pirates has PS3 menus on bootup, a DDR Supernova had a clear plastic PS2 inside a metal case, I've seen Photobooths running Ubuntu and Gentoo, a Yatzhee machine running OpenBSD, and a lot of modern games are running modified Android phone games.

[@lostconciousness4255]

it's amazing that just giving some love to an old PC can run better than most modern home consoles for a fraction of the price.

[@darthpotwet2668]

Idk man, games optimised for console does make them very very good value

[@Mahoujanai]

Actually Sega made many PCs, including the Teradrive (the only one for the consumer market in Japan), Lindbergh, Ringedge, Ringwide, Ringedge 2, Europa-R, Nu and Alls.

[@Formedras]

And they aren't the only ones. Some arcade machines have had consumer PC parts since at least the 90s, and pretty much all of them are commodity hardware systems (either x86-64 PCs or ARM single-board computers or modified phones/tablets) at their core nowadays. The weird thing is when an arcade manufacturer actually makes a computer for the consumer market. Like Sega did with the Teradrive you mentioned (or the different, licensed Mega PC from Amstrad), or much more recently with Konami's ARESPEAR computers designed for the BEMANI games that are on eAmusement Cloud.

[@ForeverLacey09]

Sega actually made the Intel motherboards for their Lindbergh systems which is going a little farther than using consumer based hardware.

[@Mahoujanai]

@@ForeverLacey09 Oh no I meant the Teradrive was specifically for consumer (ie it was sold at retail), all of the others were for the arcade market, IE for commercial. And yeah, PC arcade boards are very common esp since the late 90s/2000s+ because it just didn't make sense to make your own custom board anymore.

[@blargcoster]

3:19 I think that super wide aspect ratio is because it is meant for three monitor wide setups, like those shots of the game running you had right after playing those.

[@kerenandikitjgnjmbz]

I know I'm late, but some things for you: . You're right about the COM ports, they are used for the touch screens. Their touch is sometimes are special, depends on the game. on 1 game (maimai), the screen is divided into specific partitions. They then are represented in a string of 0 and 1s and sent through UART. you can even emulate the touch using Arduino. . The service key is an external key, mounted on the arcade's frame somewhere. Not a part of the ALLs, so sold separately. it probably connects using one of the COMs, idk. actually, you can try smashing your keyboards and see if any will be able to emit the "Service", "Test", "Coin" keys. In some games, they are [1], [2], [3] (not numpad). . As you probably have suspected, the game needs a GAME KEY. It's a modified USB flash drive, sold separately. Usually, they'll issue a huge update every half/1 year and arcade stores need to buy them to get the latest updates and got connected to their server. yeah, they are $EGA. btw keys are different on different arcade machines/gens. . On older maimai game, they used "Ringedge 2". i3 540 + GeForce GT545 + 2GB RAM was used till around 2020. sufficient for running games that don't use the GPU intensely. . ALLs MX2 uses 1060 and MX2.1 uses 1660Ti and they are underclocked. They need to be powered on and display game demos for at least 16 hrs a day, usually 24. . as you know, mobo is modified. also, they don't use M.2 (never seen one before). I think most components are made custom for them. . If you want to dig around about sega arcade games, emuline has a bunch of folks who has dumped them and let you run it on a regular PC. pretty interesting to see people DIY their own arcade there. . I remember the HDD/SSD that is built-in is actually encrypted and can be unlocked by their mobo. I really want to try CTRL+ALT+DEL after the ALLs software start and see if there's a way to copy the data out.

[@lucasrem]

You need captive touch, COM serial is for mad people only. Windows is for Noobs ! Arcade, apple TV is better for that !

[@felixjohnson3874]

Charging for major updates is now considered a crappy $ move? Seriously? So people whinge about live services, *_and_* whinge about paid revisions, so is the issue here just updates in general or what because if you want updates someone needs to write them and that person needs to eat. This is a niche product that's a non-recurring purchase, how do people expect that to keep getting development funded indefinitely without cash inflow?

[@kerenandikitjgnjmbz]

@@felixjohnson3874 that's why they're called $EGA. In the game I mentioned, you'll need to be on the latest versions to keep getting new contents, like collections and music for players and record keeping. Once a player played on a newer ver. machine, they won't be able to access their data on outdated machines (although still connected to the server); thus forcing shops to upgrade to the newer version. yep they're crazy about this. Not to mention that there are some contents (music) that are only available in Japan.

[@AbsoluteSadlad]

23:10 just get a CH341A reprogrammer, they are dirt cheap. can read, reprogram & dump off of several different variations of BIOs chips. have helped me save a ton of secondhand "parts" mainboards.

[@すどにむ]

Tweezers are all that's necessary often

[@MiyabiJNEP]

First time viewing your work and I enjoyed your humor. Fun vid! Keep you the good energy!