The Best & The Worst Sega Genesis Fighting Games

[@witheredmedia]

Eternal Champions was cool because it had kind of a weird story, all the characters are essentially dead and in limbo between heaven and hell fighting for their soul. And the music and visuals gave for an overall melancholic tone, it is a great representation of the 90s!

[@cantstopbeeboo2055]

It would've been even more cool, if Bone Thugs didn't steal the WHOLE soundtrack.

[@GamerGee]

Eternal was like the time variance authority

[@Spanishdog17]

@@cantstopbeeboo2055 I think that made the game even better!

[@losnamerales3403]

All imma say is Michael Middleton Knight, if you know you know 💯

[@tomthespaceknerd5396]

Yeah. I still have the Sonic The Comic: Eternal Champions Summer Special comic book (Spoiler: R.A.X. wins after beating Shadow in the final, but suggests that they would work better as a team than just a single champion, paving the way for more stories in regular issues of STC). And it's a really cool story. It really got me invested in the characters before I played the game. There were a couple of gamebooks released as well, where the player takes the role of a new unnamed warrior called from history to work alongside the Champions in taking down an evil overlord.

[@n0isyturtle]

I have a huge softspot for Eternal Champions. Stayed up all night once with all my friends from school trying to do all the stage fatalities, plus the music was sampled by Bone Thugs which I was really into at the time.

[@chrisr529]

East 1999 , that cd was so good. I had it when I was in elementary school for some reason . Bad parents I guess lol.

[@joeesperanto678]

I loved that game! Way up there with MK, Fatal Fury and Street Fighter.

[@jaymzx2587]

Absolutely, I think the game is fantastic in lots of ways. There’s a romhack version out there, with much better balance; less aggressive CPU en unlimited special moves. It plays so much better!

[@JohnnyThousand605]

You mus teach me your ways. =( I really *want* to like Eternal Champions but it just won't let me in

[@dexterramey8787]

What song?

[@davidtran9444]

Fatal fury 2 deserves to be counted among the good ones. Huge sprites and a bonkers combo system made it one of my most played genesis fighters.

[@davidtran9444]

@Anthony Cook idk why people keep saying this. I own both snes and genesis copies of fatal fury 2 and the only thing the snes version has going for it is graphics and sound. The snes version has smaller sprites, slower gameplay, and no functioning combo system. You can search youtube for some insane combos on the megadrive/genesis version.

[@elianandres4326]

It's a fact that fatal fury 2 is one of the best Sega genesis fighting games.

[@angelriverasantana7755]

And a cheat code that allowed for DIP switches that mess with gameplay Like, infinite supers and juggling

[@jamesburchill7522]

I think the most frustrating part of Eternal Champions, was that the CPU could still spam specials, despite a depleted meter. Sad the Saturn never got a sequel. Truly Sega of America was sabotaged with that blow, and the earlier assignment of the 32X. I had kind of hoped Weaponlord would have shown up on this video. If you can excuse the frame rate, which was throttled back to account for early net code ( They had plans for online play) I feel it was a pretty solid, if not difficult, weapon based fighter.

[@samfrito]

You know, Weapon Lord does have great game play and a cool soundtrack. Wish he would have included it. Eternal Champs was a blast to learn and play against your friends. The cpu sucked, but I still enjoyed seeing it pull off a turnaround and winning after I beat it close to death. And I would have loved to see a 32x version of Eternal Champions. Imagine even larger, more detailed characters and backgrounds.

[@davidtran9444]

Soa demanded the 32x from soj. They poisoned their own well.

[@videogamemusicrenditionsby7625]

I love weapon lord...

[@MCastleberry1980]

Eternal Champions definitely had some of the best sprite work on the system, and anytime I played it, it was a group of kids taking turns, so the computer AI being a beast wasn't even a consideration.

[@johntoye6602]

Its when you get the eternal champion and learn you have to fight him four times, and can't lose.

[@jamief1263]

The eternal champion was rock solid, 5 years of playing it, I couldn’t beat the fucker

[@johntoye6602]

@@jamief1263 i could return to it now and not the beat fucker lol

[@MPT1983]

Nobody played story mode in that game, only two player lol

[@jamief1263]

@@MPT1983 I did, nobody wanted to play it, as I was the only person that had it, I was better than anyone else, so we played SF or MK instead.

[@GameFanaTICK386]

I was hoping Eternal Champions would make the list. Was one of my favorites as a kid. Great music. Even "Bone Thugs N Harmony's" producer thought so 😁.

[@shenglongisback4688]

Lol yass

[@bruceaskew2107]

factz 💯💪🏽 btnh 4 life

[@bruceaskew2107]

@TrueSinister its a whole video on it on the channel beyond the harmony

[@FallicIdol]

I tried to like the game but never got into it

[@otaking3582]

Personally I thought the characters weren't very memorable and the AI is way too cheap.

[@madspunky]

Turtles Tournament Fighters was really good on the SNES. Its combo system was just as advanced as SFII: Turbo (and better than Eternal Champions), it had Super Moves. But most of all: it was fast, great hit detection, excellent production values. Great to see Yu Yu Hakusho!

[@jwill7998]

I know it's a matter of opinion, but he's dead wrong when he says the SNES version sucks.

[@VOAN]

@GamebroTV The Super NES version was good but you had to be really really dedicated to mastering the game in able to had any sort of fun with it as the AI on that was very unforgivable even for a noob player. Either that or you had lots of friends to play it with.

[@chinomnsochinke238]

The SNES version was the bomb! Great and fast gameplay. I thoroughly enjoyed it and so did lots of my friends. Wonder why he said it sucked?

[@Ish0tJR]

The Snes version was fucking brilliant, its still played in side tournaments to this day. To each their own, but I couldn't disagree with him more on this one, although I do agree the Genesis version does suck.

[@tomthespaceknerd5396]

Snes version is still quite fun. Bit janky at times, but really not bad at all. I was surprised by how much worse the Genesis/Megadrive version was. It feels broken. All they had to do was port the snes version. Even with downgraded graphics and sound, if it played like the Snes it would have been a much more enjoyable game.

[@SuperKokuJin916]

TMNT Tournament Fighters was one of the few instances that I wish we just got the same game as the SNES version. It would've played faster and smoother on the Genesis like Street Fighter II did. The music on both games were amazing at least.

[@SuperPeterok]

the music just always sucks on Sega. Save for Streets of Rage series

[@SuperKokuJin916]

@@SuperPeterok Have you actually played any other Genesis games? Revenge of Shinobi (also by SOR’s Yuzo Koshiro), Shinobi 3, Sonic 1-3, Rocket Knight Adventures, Castlevania Bloodlines, Master of Monsters, Gauntlet IV, the Thunder Force series, Gunstar Heroes, Phantasy Star 4, and Eternal Champions are some great examples of excellent Genesis soundtracks. It all comes down to the talent of the composer. A lot of SNES soundtracks sounded horrible for the same reason - I do NOT like Capcom’s SNES sound font at all; but I do like MegaMan X 1-3 OSTs. I think Street Fighter II CE’s music on the PC Engine outdoes both its Genesis & SNES counterparts.

[@SuperPeterok]

@@SuperKokuJin916 played those and just didn't like the way songs sounded as opposed to cleaner sounding SNES

[@Cupcom5]

Same. Snes tournament fighters was awesome.

[@iam16bits]

Fun Fact: The Genesis version of Justice League: Task Force was developed by Condor, inc. During development they met with Blizzard who had done the SNES version and pitched their idea for dungeon crawling RPG. That game was released 2 years later as Diablo. Later Condor was bought out by Blizzard and renamed to Blizzard North until their shut down in 2005.

[@johnriddlebaugh7436]

I actually liked playing Eternal Champions. I especially liked the insults the characters said.

[@brentcanfield8883]

SIMPLETON. PUNK. And then you would do it over and over. PUNK. PUNK. PUNK. PUNK. lmao

[@Nillon24]

Lew-zuhhh!

[@Cupcom5]

I enjoyed playing that game. Awesome spritework. Those stage fatalities used to creep me, because of how the health bars would disappear.

[@Cupcom5]

@@dariusthefactor to be fair, they had comics and a limited time slurpee at 7eleven years ago.

[@brentcanfield8883]

@@Cupcom5 Ikr! I alos thought was creepy how when the fatality would start, there would just be quiet for a few seconds....then BAM! lol

[@Upsideround]

I had the eternal champions sequel on CD and was one of the most fun fighters I remember. crazy amount of content for such an old game.

[@PeteOliva]

Yes, the Sega CD sequel was great. Difficulty was less punishing and more fair and overall I think it was a good move for the series but yes, sadly the series hit the chopping block.

[@Kos4Evr]

I think it was less of a sequel and more of an "expansion" but it took the original concept and characters and expanded both the story and the roster. Even the characters that look like pallet swapped versions of other characters had unique move sets.

[@mrnicktoyou]

Street Fighter 2 was just the best game in the 90s. I remember being in school and everyone talked about it and played it.

[@Video-Games-Are-Fun]

most pizza joints down here in new york city had it. ditto video rental stores and even candy store bodegas. the game made MANY people rich. coin after coin was being inserted. and then when sf2 died down, along came rainbow edition for another few years that blew our minds.

[@-Joyfull]

@@Video-Games-Are-Fun There's a popular pizza joint in downtown Toronto which had an arcade cabinet of Street Fighter 2 as well. I wonder if it's still there after all these years. It's been ages since I was last there.

[@MM-hf6om]

From what I remember it was at first but people were sick of how many versions of 2 were coming out ( except 2 turbo). A lot of these garbage games did well becuase people were tired of street fighter 2 whatever edition that was coming out yearly and full price. There's a reason clayfighter found an audience

[@IAmAnEvilTaco]

You mean Mortal Kombat, right? Yes, I will never let that feud die.

[@-Joyfull]

@@IAmAnEvilTaco I like the first 3 MK games, and the first 2 movies, and I have a cosplay of Scorpion.

[@ProfessorHurt]

The SNES TMNT Tournament Fighter is amazing. It challenges you to master the characters and adapt. The music was amazing and there was a wide array of characters. I always loved play as the Cyber Shredder. His close-up attacks always punished those who got in close but he had a good counter to those who went wide.

[@IAmAnEvilTaco]

The SNES and Arcade versions were some of the best fighting of the era. The genesis version feels like it was put together after a 2 week coke bender, by people who didn't know what a video game was.

[@joseluislopezcorona5379]

Heck yes it was good ( the snes versión. Never playera the sega one)

[@GamerGee]

The shark was the cheaper person. That damn uppercut he has. Fuck that move

[@scm64entertainment44]

@@GamerGee at least in the snes version you don't have to play the HIGHEST difficulty to see the good ending of the story mode. and each character has their own different ending.

[@GamerGee]

@@scm64entertainment44 I’m with you. The snes version was better but fuck that shark!!! I hate that shark uppercut move

[@wesgeorge4112]

Eternal Champions has aged extremely well imo. It still has great music, great graphics, unique characters, and a good fighting system. Yes it's hard.

[@hadamana]

Never once was I able to get past the second match. Just sayin' That hazard arena mode was sick af, though

[@gusposey8218]

Its omission from the 'Best Of' group is inexcusable.

[@Kos4Evr]

I think I beat EC with every character at least once. @hadamana yeah the hazard mode arena was so much fun.

[@j-stilt9746]

It definitely felt like one of the best fighters back then. I didnt like king of monsters at all.

[@TheHailstorm77]

Heck no. Genesis sound and color was horrible. I used to own Eternal and it was an ok game. I like the Fatalities it had but some of the characters are goofy looking. They should’ve had SNK do this to make it a lot better and then release on the Genesis.

[@j.goggels9115]

Eternal Champions. Gorgeous !

[@MkII502]

One of the best - Weaponlord.

[@johntoye6602]

Oh man you are so right, I loved that game "Bane is Victorious"

[@Kos4Evr]

@@johntoye6602 Divada wins To be fair though, if the Golden Axe fighting game had to exist, (not that it should have) Weaponlord is the game it should have been.

[@johntoye6602]

@@Kos4Evr I think Weaponlord became Soul blade and Soul Calibur.

[@ejazmoghul5286]

I loved that game still watch KZbin vids of it today. I wish they did a remake with the 2d style but updated.

[@ejazmoghul5286]

@Anthony Cook I'd be up for funding a Kickstarter to bring back the original. I loved trying to counter strikes and trying to get Weapon breaks or costume damage. And specials and combos were immense. Too much to love about, it was like how Conan games and movies should have been.

[@SlippyMcDervish]

I'm a huge Sega fan. This guy truly makes the best Sega videos... love his stuff.

[@Jinx_Skeel]

check out slope's game room for another big sega fan

[@RetroGamesBoy78]

@@Jinx_Skeel Slope is such a big Sega fan that he opted to get a PS1 instead of a Sega Saturn!

[@BoozeAholic]

Nah I think Gamesack is better, whenever they're reviewing Genesis games. Joe is hardcore Genesis fan.

[@Bangyourbirdnumb]

Surprised to hear you say that. I find his approach boring and bland. There's just no passion and charisma there, he could be a robot for all I know such is his delivery of the material. Now Joe on the other hand, fantastic. He has everything that this guy is lacking.

[@Carsonj13]

@@Bangyourbirdnumb There's clearly a lot of passion that goes into these videos. Charisma is subjective; You can't please everybody...

[@GustavoShrapnel]

Eternal Champions was one of those games I thought I was going to hate due to bad reviews but ended up really enjoying when I finally played it.

[@samfrito]

And it's still relatively cheap.

[@AllardRT]

@@samfrito And it's on Steam too.

[@dustman820]

@@AllardRT And is on the Genesis Mini. Make sure to have a six button controller though.

[@kevinmulder919]

Eternal Champions is for sure a top 5 fighting game on the Genesis! It's a great game.

[@MarioSonicUniverse]

I think you forgot to mention somting about MK3, SLX. Chris Braymen's music for that port, despite using GEMS, is a lot more faithful to the arcade soundtrack to a T when compared to Matt Furniss' unique (but still amazingly incredible, don't get me wrong) takes on the music for the Genesis ports of the first 2 MKs.

[@HeavenOrHell74]

Little disappointed I didn't hear Fatal Fury 2 in the list. Always loved that game.

[@shannonmckitterick9981]

U r right

[@rustymixer2886]

Takara ports were shit

[@lyteedge]

@@rustymixer2886 Fatal Fury 2 was a fantastic port. Better than the SNES version.

[@rustymixer2886]

@@lyteedge ok but takara ports are shit. I rather play neogeo ff2 version on neogeo or mame than Takara port on genesis or md emulator... right wouldn't u?

[@3_kd]

@@rustymixer2886 because you use emulator. Genesis cartridge is so great. It similar to arcade version

[@Naedlus]

So glad to see Eternal Champions having a mention. I loved the game, but, if you are trying to go through it single player, the experience is best described as frustration, with the computer being able to ignore chi, while your limits get lower and lower with each fight. Two players, no limits, is fun as hell, but if you are alone, you are more likely to just enjoy a practice mode than you are to enjoy the experience getting to one of the endings.

[@troymeredith521]

Haven’t played MK3 for Genesis and was shocked to see how smooth and arcade-like it was. Fantastic to see that and may give it a shot.

[@Bloodreign1]

When you don't let Probe touch your game, and let Scultpured Software, who did the first 2 SNES games, do it instead, miracles can happen. Probe screwed the pooch twice for Mortal Kombat, SS hit the mark on their first Genesis shot.

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

UMK3 is a botched, buggy mess for both Mega Drive and SNES, but the original MK3 on Mega Drive is actually decent.

[@RetroGamesBoy78]

@@Bloodreign1 MK 1 and 2 on Mega Drive are both great ports, especially MK2, sculptured software absolutely butchered MK 1 on the Snes and the lag on Snes port of Mk2 although not a game breaker, it does spoil it slightly thankfully the 32X version exists which is probably the best home port of the game when everything is considered.

[@darielg6588]

@@RetroGamesBoy78 Mk2 on the SNES was the superior Port

[@RetroGamesBoy78]

@@darielg6588 Thats your opinion! I personally think the 32X port is the superior version, and would have been even better if it hadn't of been a half port of the Mega drive version!

[@andrewquick4176]

TOURNAMENT FIGHTERS IN THE SNES WAS AWESOME Was obsessed with Eternal Champions as a kid but the game is both bad and good. Would LOVE a sequel like SEGA have done with Sonic Mania and Streets Of Rage 4

[@charlieomeara1856]

I 2nd that vote!

[@RawrX32009]

@@charlieomeara1856 I 3rd that vote

[@firefighterslife8762]

For a minute there I thought you were going to leave eternal champions. My favorite fighting game

[@samfrito]

Still great after all these years too.

[@AllardRT]

EC fans represent!

[@pcharl01]

Did the original version have fatalities or just the Sega CD version?

[@AllardRT]

@@pcharl01 The original had stage fatalities, the Sega CD sequel added one more fatality per each stage, plus regular fatalities for each character plus the Cinekills.

[@HybridAngelZero]

I had TMNT Tournament Fighters on Genesis as a kid, it was probably one of the first fighting games I had played, but it's a game that's stuck with for a long time. Especially the art design of the backgrounds, it was really the first time I had seen anything like that, and it really fascinated me, and inspired a lot of creativity from me. Another thing I thought was awesome about it is that of the bosses, Triceraton, Kraang and Karai, Karai, a normal human martial artist, was the most powerful.

[@SuperKokuJin916]

I STILL love the music. It was done by the same composer as the original Gradius. It makes sense because all the tracks really sounded like they belonged in a shmup.

[@HybridAngelZero]

@@SuperKokuJin916 Oh yeah, I still love the music go this day, I still listen to it fairly often

[@VOAN]

No Shredder was the reason I didn't like the Genesis version, I do like that they include Casey Jones, April, and Krang's android but I'll take Chromedone, Shredder, Rat King, and Aska over those three any day. To me Chromedone is Dhalsim, Aska is Chun-Li/Cammy, Shredder is Vega/M. Bison, and Rat King is Zangief.

[@HybridAngelZero]

@@VOAN That is totally valid. I've never gotten to play the NES or SNES versions, but I've always wanted to

[@thehumbleone1983]

Eternal champions is one of my favourite Sega Genesis game and Yu Yu Hakusho is awesome.

[@neobogard]

Turtles Tournament Fighters on the Snes was and still is awesome.

[@NikateeN]

Yes sir! One of my favorite fighters of all time.

[@Vormund]

Yep hard disagree on lumping the SNES version with the Genesis version. I still play the SNES version today.

[@michielkroder4031]

100% agreed. Maybe even the best fighter on the SNES without Street Fighter II in the title. People even play it at tournaments to this day and you can't do that with games that are shallow.

[@MKF30]

Agreed I feel games ported for both consoles that TMNT TF, MK 2 and 3 and SSFII are better on the snes than sega genesis imo. The 3 top fg i played to hell on snes were mk2, tmnt TF and ssfII then KI. Also anyone remember Clayfighter? Lol like a parody hybrid of mk and sf lol

[@otaking3582]

Agreed. It was the first fighting game I ever played and still one of my favorites.

[@Darkmage1293]

Ah, Eternal Champions. A game that somehow scared me more than Mortal Kombat ever could. MK might've been the first to do it, but seeing some of these gory fatalities in Eternal Champions put their head rips to shame. Intestines bursting out onto a spiked log, melting, shredding into pieces through a comically long pit trap filled with razor sharp objects....the only real shame was the combat didn't feel great.

[@thejunkmanlives]

one thing that really helped elevate the genesis version of sf2 was the 6 button controller. the d pad and button lay out was a big deal and fight pads today still model themselves after the genesis controller.

[@jimkrom]

Justice league task force: where you can play as Michael Bolton with a trident...

[@SuperPeterok]

superman needs to bring his mullet back

[@chrissawyer1484]

Cheetah had that one move that was an insta kill. Hated that.

[@thehound1359]

Eternal champions was so dope

[@gcforreal]

Loved it but as a kid it was so damn difficult

[@NY-Buddy]

Shadow: turn into a shadow and body the game

[@guilhermeoliveira2957]

I remember renting shaq fu as a kid. It ruined my weekend. And I didn't even know Shaq was a real person back then.

[@shenglongisback4688]

Lol

[@YacDiesel]

Did Raph seriously say “Cowa-BANG-a” at the end of that match?? Argh! Terrible! 😂😂😂

[@ShadowArtist]

I have to disagree with you on TMNT Tournament Fighters graphics, some of the stages the graphics look pretty nice IMO and he character sprites looks pretty good

[@nimaiiikun]

I think Treasure re-used Yu-Yu Hakusho's engine for the Bleach DS fighting game

[@strategicfooyouagencyfirst8197]

@Matthew Herman no, very different from fatal fury. Totally two different feelings.

[@SuperKokuJin916]

It was definitely the forerunner for Guardian Heroes.

[@hakeemxsonicgarner5165]

Eternal Champions would've been also Good on the Saturn,2D or 3D,It would've been Good

[@FreeFoodforthePoor]

My friend had Eternal Champions on the SEGA CD. My horrible gameplay resulted in seeing an unending number of different fatalities, with player- and stage-specific options. Pretty crazy stuff for its time!

[@jjeaze]

Did yall hear about the SOR 4 expansion? Cant wait.

[@samfrito]

Best Genesis fighter IMO has to go to MK 3, but I seriously feel Eternal Champs is still a phenomenon in gaming. I will be an EC cartridge fan til I can't utter the word "LOSER!" So many moves and weird possibilities during any match just make it highly entertaining and fun to master with a few friends. Worst Genesis fighter: Ballz

[@Truxzord]

I love Shadow from Eternal Champions.

[@LeeONardo]

Great choice =3

[@RikoJAmado]

I liked Larcen, the 1920s cat burglar and his stage. Xavier was pretty cool too.

[@joeesperanto678]

Xavier, Eternal, Shadow & Midnight are my favourites.

[@-Joyfull]

I love Jetta Maxx and Xavier. And then I love Riptide from the sequel on SegaCD.

[@Lauren_Tyler]

Jetta was cool too.

[@paulj5336]

I had a great time with the Snes Tournament Fighters in the 90's. It was a really solid fighter with great graphics and sound. It almost looked like a neo geo game. The Sega one, not so much.

[@ShinobiWan1]

I used to dismiss the SNES version because of how disappointed I was in the Genesis game. Years later, I tried it out and was pleasantly surprised

[@CarlosXPhone]

I liked the SNES version of Tournament Fighter over Genesis. I went like "what is this?" I loved TMNT but Genesis version made me scratch my head. How did Konami go from HYPERSTONE HEIST to TOURNAMENT FIGHTERS? Like. How?

[@joeesperanto678]

Eternal Champions! Best game of all in Sega Genesis! 'Nuff sed!

[@georgeweeman9057]

I never thought that Pit-Fighter got enough love....Played that game for hours when it first came out!

[@SuperPeterok]

how?? It's difficult to even beat the first cpu character

[@arnmrs1660]

I agree. The Genesis version is great, but the snes version is awfull.

[@dustman820]

@@SuperPeterok The Genesis version is a good port. Way better than the SNES port.

[@nimaiiikun]

speaking of Street fighter, there's two awesome improvement hacks by Pyron and Lord Hiryu that drastically improves the graphics! they go in different directions though. LH went for arcade accuracy while Pyron went more original

[@Espilonarge]

Is it sad to realize that at one point you've brought a copy of Shaq Fu only to forget about it entirely (on purpose) only to realize you ended up buying a second copy by mistake? Eh heh heh.. yeah... that happened to me. *derp* n.n;;;

[@tempestfennac9687]

I don't think I was even aware that the game existed until the '00s so I never even bought one copy. :P

[@SalDOWN]

Why did you hit me for?!

[@johntoye6602]

Tis a shame, I mean it is awful, but its animations are really quite nice, just plays terrible.

[@LowKeyTired-q7d]

My fav Eternal Champions character was the cyborg kickboxer. I remember, you hold A and C to do the fireball. I have memories of smashing my controller into the arm of my chair because I kept losing to my pal

[@Chaz4543]

Thats one of the reasons why I didnt like the game. There was no half circle or quarter circle motions for moves it was all holding and charging. Meh.

[@charlieomeara1856]

His name is RAX

[@barry-allenthe-flash8396]

Aw, it's a shame you kept Wrestling titles off the list. I mean, I TOTALLY understand the divide between real-life sports and fighting games, but man... that one WWF Wrestlemania Arcade game by Midway, that uses the Mortal Kombat controls and digitized sprites, and is really crazy, and uses lifebars instead of 3-counts? That one is _pretty_ fighting game-y... I wish I knew about that back in the day. I ignored it because I wasn't into Wrestling (well, not during the New Generation. I got into it during the Attitude era), but man, I loved fighting games and that is totally one I shouldn't have slept on until later.

[@DarkNRGDragon]

>TMNT Tournament Fighters sucks on SNES Really? I thought the gameplay was just like Street Fighter 2. Surely isn't not as bad as you say, right?

[@vicior55]

7:48 Tectoy ever making the possible and impossible for the players. Like the Street Fighter II for Master System haha Congratulations from Brazil.

[@HOWLWOLF]

I'm so impressed that Tectoy has reverse engineered the master system so much they can make back ports of later games keeping the master system alive. Brazil is wild yo

[@FamilyTeamGaming]

I suspect they ported Yuu Yuu Hakusho because it was such a popular anime at the time, Brazil or otherwise. Since a lot of Brazilians still had Mega Drives by the late 90s, too, it only made sense to port it.

[@vicior55]

@@FamilyTeamGaming Tectoy was genius. Worked with the idea that Master System was a console to kids, because have 2 buttons and the games was more simple, Mega Drive/Genesis was to Teenage, Difficult games, 3 or 6 buttons. I won a Master System in 1998, obviously Master had a low price too, hahaha

[@cbarger2327]

I'm not so sure that everyone would agree that the Sega CD version of Samurai Shodown is better than the Genesis cartridge. I recall thinking it was worse, and I just looked up a side-by-side video and I can see why: even though the Sega CD version has larger characters, it takes big cuts to the animation. The Sega CD only has 6 megabits of memory, whereas the Genesis can pull from any of the 24 megabits on that cartridge without any load time. (this is also why Sega CD games usually have very little load time: even though the CD drive was very slow, the most data it ever had to pull at once was 6 megabits, which doesn't take long)

[@djj1]

The 3DO version was better than Sega cd lol

[@Silanda]

@@djj1 Rumour has it that the high quality of the 3DO port pissed off SNK, who had either just released or were gearing up for release of the Neo Geo CD, a system that had perfect ports as its selling point. The rumour was that SNK told Crystal Dynamics to exclude things like the scaling, but they put it in anyway and that ended the relationship with SNK and any future ports to the 3DO. No idea how true any of this is though.

[@DustinBatchelor]

I owned Eternal Champions when it came out new. Also hard Mortal Kombat and SF2. Hands down I preferred ET. You had to put effort into learning all the moves, but once you did, it was an incredible fighter. Trident was the best.

[@arisdulgerian2053]

I can relate to playing MK3 on my Nomad. Didn’t have a lot of fighter games, but I enjoyed MK3.

[@AltimaNEO]

Me too! What was it wait MK3 and Nomad that made such a good combo?

[@kcmac9298]

When I was a kid I had a subscription to Game Players magazine and I saw Eternal Champions had the highest score I had seen at the time, 98%. So I bought it and played it to death, but it took me years to beat the Eternal champion after I gave up for awhile. Once I beat him I never played it again, went out on top. Tough game but it had things no other game had, like the customizable training center, that made it stand apart. That Salem Witch stage, with the eerie music and the burn at the stake overkill, is best fighting game stage ever imo.

[@MrSTRX]

Yu Yu Hakusho is the best anime ever, imo. It was ridiculously popular here in Brasil so Tectoy brought it here

[@leomonz]

Love this game and 4 players mode

[@SuperPeterok]

I wish it had been more popular in the U.S.

[@lustechsource5197]

Sprite work on the Genesis version of Samurai Showdown was amazing. Mortal Kombat 3's digitized graphics were also impressive considering the limited color palette. Like you mentioned, you can clearly see where Guardian Heroes roots came from in Yu Yu Hakusho. I would love to see a Guardian Heros demake on the Genesis using this engine. Awesome video!

[@francescosmith7859]

don't worry about insulting Shaq. He's said on a few occasions that he's embarrassed by Shaq Fu and it's a big reason he became more hands on with anything that has his name attached.

[@SuperPeterok]

didn't he make a new Shaq Fu

[@dustman820]

@@SuperPeterok Yes he did, but it was a beat-em up like Streets of Rage.

[@darkstardarin]

Eternal Champions (and it's devs) deserved SO much better than what happened to them!

[@aldebarangoldsaint]

TMNT Tournament Fighters is AWESOME on SNes ! Sorry I can't let you tell that.

[@brentcanfield8883]

THANK-YOU! ikr???? I came here to the comments specifically to see if someone would leave a comment like this about the SNES version of Tournament Fighters.When he said that (about it being bad), I was like, What????? I understand that opinions vary. But that version in particular has great graphics, great playability, and AMAZING sound. It's undeniable! My friend and I had too much fun battling back and forth with it back in the day.

[@vincenthammons6705]

best games were on snes the problem with snes they did way to much censoring of games which pissed me off.

[@brentcanfield8883]

@@vincenthammons6705 Yeah, the original Mortal Kombat on SNES was a truly missed opportunity for sure with how they censored it. You can tell had it not been censored, it would have easily been the definitive edition of it in that timeframe.

[@Jaykin]

It was really good on the SNES. Sega missed out on that one.

[@vapaperboi]

He'll yeah

[@ultimateman55]

Eternal Champions ProTip: Pick Trident and use his fireball projectile (charge back 2 sec, forward hard punch.) If it hits the opponent, they're dizzied. If you have enough inner strength (3/4 or more) then walk up and use his spinning trident (press all punches together) and you'll do a ton of damage and dizzy the opponent again. Throw them for the final hit and a combo worth about 75% damage.

[@JustinLeeper]

I’d never seen Justice League Task Force in action before. It looks and even sounds a lot like Eternal Darkness! By the way, Eternal Champions CD is an underrated gem. Maybe not the best playing, but it does some awesome stuff.

[@sonicsega1699]

justice league was very good on snes. it felt like what you would want from a dc fighting game. i kinda wish it would get remastered, i wasn't a fan of injustice

[@Matt-Rat]

I remember going to a video game store opening and they had Street Fighter 2: Special Champion Edition for Genesis. Was able to challenge a few people. Won 4 times and lost twice. They put up a good fight. Used Ryu the most and Blanka once. Eternal Champions is a fighting game I played as a kid. Wasn't good at it until I got older. My character is Trident. Love some of his abilities. Still have my original cartridge. I need a box for it.

[@planetdee3587]

Eternal Champions was awesome at the time. So many things that were before its time. Every stage if I am not mistaken had a finishing spot (fatality). MK may have been the originator with the Pit but EC had it on all stages. Figuring them all out was the hard part.

[@RawrX32009]

My biggest issue with ec is that the color palette is ass

[@planetdee3587]

@Sparklyboiii2009_2 I get it but I gave it a pass for the times. I am sure if it was a series that continued on it would have gotten much better.

[@RawrX32009]

@@planetdee3587 that is true, but the only reason I gave it a pass is because Sega of America were never good at making color schemes

[@AllardRT]

It's like you were reading my thoughts or something. Just discovered your channel a couple of days ago and was really curious about your opinion on Eternal Champions, which I'm happy to say I agree with, it's flawed, but still a good game that you need some time to master. Ever since I discovered it it became my go-to fighting game for the Genny, replacing good old UMK3.

[@dexterramey8787]

Loved Eternal Champions, hit the nail on the head with mk3

[@Juice2Fifty]

Great episode! I love my fighting games on my Genesis. It really didn’t matter how horrible some were, just having friends over to play against was the best!

[@prpredatorz310]

Eternal Champions wasn't that bad. I'm no fighting aficionado and I enjoyed heavily. Thought it was an awesome game.

[@davidaleman6096]

I was such a mk3 freak that I would use the 3 button controller and still pull off all the combos, lui kangs HP HP block, LK, LK, HK combo felt great to pull off the the 3 button controller, like a little dance

[@Slimpickins45]

Dam that eternal champions was tough, the amount of money spent renting that out from the game store to try and complete it 🙈

[@-Joyfull]

Now you can do it for free using an emulator, but it will take you a very long time with lots of savestates. I speak from experience.

[@johntoye6602]

Its the bloody eternal champion thats the killer, four life bars and you cant lose once...come on!

[@andrewmaasch1724]

MK3 on Megadrive/Genesis is amazing! When my bro and I finally got our megadrive in '95, our Dad let us choose a game to go with it and we unanimously chose MK3. So many fond memories playing it with friends in my brothers room on a 14" crt 😎

[@brazilmugenteam]

There is another entry you could try someday: Fighting Masters. Its a versus fighting game, but its less combo oriented and more based on tactical strikes. Some love, some hate it. But I've played the hell of it.

[@stormxjp]

It's the best! Especially the music 🎶

[@Vectormantudeoz]

A underrated game

[@LeoDoesAllThis]

TMNT: Tournament Fighters wasn’t bad, but sure it does have a few flaws, as if it’s a far cry from the SNES version. But personally, I think either Brutal or Double Dragon V deserves to be on the list of the worst fighting games for the Genesis.

[@frankflores6793]

I could only beat eternal champions with two characters back in the day

[@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526]

Yu Yu Hakusho was huge here in Brazil during 1997-1998,one of the best anime aired at the time together with the first Dragon Ball and Saint Seiya. But when the Mega Drive game was finally released here the anime was already in re-runs and the everyone already have their N64 or (bootleg) PS1. I still had a Mega Drive in that time (and also a N64) but could not find a copy of Yu Yu Hakusho near home.

[@strategicfooyouagencyfirst8197]

In China too. If we choose 10 best mega drive game. Yo-yo hakusho would be in 3 maybe.

[@danielflynn8530]

I played Dark Stalkers more than Street Fighter 2. I think it's a shame we haven't seen a dimensional version on ps4 or now 5

[@VOAN]

Darkstalkers was an amazing series but sadly like Nintendo killing F-Zero and EarthBound, the games didn't sold well for Capcom and the re-released didn't help either so the series was killed off.

[@forcedfeedbackclassicgamer5499]

Lol. Time Killers. I laugh because I'm currently a Senior UI Artist at Incredible Technologies, the company behind the original arcade version. That game was long before my time here, but the company does look back and chuckle at Time Killers (IT had relatively little to do with the Genesis port). We occasionally joke about what producing a modern sequel/remake would entail, but that's about as far as the conversation goes. ;)

[@camulodunon]

Ok, then just know that if some miracle takes place and you do end up making a sequel/remake of Time Killers, then make it so that the dismemberment isn't so goddamn random ;)

[@zooropa04]

I never made the connection between Cyrax's laugh just before his self-destruct fatality and the Predator from the original movie doing the exact same thing before watching this video. I feel incredibly dumb now....

[@HereForAStorm]

i always thought it was a robotic countdown sound not a laugh

[@kosmosyche]

Fun Fact: Justice League Task Force for Sega Genesis was developed by Condor Inc., which became Blizzard North the very next year and made Diablo. Fun Fact #2: Justice League Task Force for SNES was developed by Blizzard themselves. Fun Fact #3: Blizzard and Condor met each other at E3, when they were presenting their respective (shitty) games under the Sunsoft umbrella. At the time Blizzard had already made Warcraft, and were about to ship Warcraft 2. Things were looking good financially for them and they were thinking of expanding, so when the president of Condor shared his dream of making a big RPG, Blizzard decided to jump on board and make it happen.

[@VOAN]

Yeap and their next game as Blizzard was the legendary Death and Return of Superman. I say they had redeem their DC license very well by the end. Sad that it's just for that one game.

[@puparn93]

I was hoping that you would have Clay Fighter on this video.

[@JoystickVersusMachine]

I honestly don't know how that didn't happen.

[@segapena5033]

The Genesis version of Eternal Champions was very meh to me. But when Sega CD version came out it with amount of new characters, stages, music and amplified gore levels it went from meh galaxy brain levels good.

[@Soynereh]

Samurai Shodown, no contest. Some love for DBZ Bu Yu Retsuden also.

[@brentcanfield8883]

Samurai Shodown FOR LIFE!

[@big_e_plays]

I actually preferred the Ultimate MK3 when it came out rather than MK3 standard. It felt pretty much the same but added the extra characters, etc. I also had gotten the Super Street Fighter 2 rather than the championship edition - possibly for the 4 added characters but felt it was mostly the same game otherwise. I did somewhat enjoy Justice League due to being a fan, but I knew it was a rough game.

[@matttherrien9608]

I plan on recommending your channel to everyone else's interests. You definitely deserving of 100K.

[@matttherrien9608]

I'd like to I'm sorry. I"d like to give yourself my Jack Daniel's

[@tslodemi]

Good video, man! Were you ever gonna do one about Sega Channel? I loved that for the short time it existed, it's where I played Shaq Fu the first time, haha

[@TrippyCommentaries]

You met Shaq!? Awesome lol

[@georgesiv2082]

Did he said he was sorry for this awful game?

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

@@georgesiv2082 I loved how he was supposedly making up for it by making that new Shaq-fu game that was actually just as bad in a lot of ways as the old game just in different ways. Good old Shaq even when he tries not to be consistent he totally is.

[@VOAN]

@@georgesiv2082 Don't worry he was sorry for it after Cody Rhodes beat him in AEW.

[@kenneththam2480]

Shaq, unlike MJ, would not take your critique personally.

[@SuperPeterok]

Shaq and his sexy ass tag team partner Jade Cargill actually won that match against Cody and Red Velvet so try again lol

[@kjhoskins]

Good stuff. Eternal Champions has always been one of my favorite Genesis games. Thanks for the video.

[@MattMcMuscles]

A big oof on the Tournament Fighters section. The Genesis version isn't great, but it's not terrible either. The SNES is far and away superior, but it does have some balancing issues. Other than that, it's an incredibly solid fighter, and has a pretty robust combo system for 1993. It still gets lots of fan love today with tournaments, mugens, and a great community. Bad take in this video.

[@SegaLordX]

I've heard a fair few people say the same thing to me, but I never considered it to play anywhere near as good as anything from Capcom and SNK. Honestly, I think my dislike for it stems from loving Street Fighter and Samurai Shodown so much. Switching over to this just felt janky and unappealing.

[@MattMcMuscles]

@@SegaLordX I can understand that. But if it's been a long time since you've tried the SNES version, take it for another spin. At the very least, it's awesome pixel art and music have aged a bit better than the Genny version. If you want to experience something special, please try TMNT x Justice League, and incredible fan game which mashes up both franchises, and is better than them both!

[@jw7303]

Hey look, it's Matt.

[@chriswilkinson7636]

Eternal Champions is a really excellent game. Very interesting range of characters.

[@Smarfton]

Ah Eternal Champions, amazing concept, look and sound, one of the most obtuse control mechanics in all of fighters. Seriously the mechanics are awful and NOT worth the investment.

[@Lional]

I used to absolutely love Eternal Champions. I remember getting the GamePro before it released, and fell in love with the background fatalities. But, I do have a question. Didn't Clay Fighters also come out on Genesis too? Or is my memory completely wrong?

[@sgtinsa8738]

can i make a little request? I would love a vid of the awesome hacks that change or enhance genesis games to new levels, like ultimate mk trilogy, contra hard corps invasion or the sonic 3D blast director's cut.

[@robbvanderstoel7725]

I wanted Eternal Champions to be better, then they made the Sega CD version and it was better. So many hidden characters. So many finishers. I was a fan of Midknight, Thanatos, and Senator (who had a move called ban violence that prevented your opponent from attacking).

[@joes4a6]

My favorite part of the video is how you talked about how great Weaponlord is........

[@Kos4Evr]

I know right. It was 1 of the best weapon based fighting games of its time. Great controls, Very distinctive looking and feeling characters, violence to make MK look weak by comparison and that vibe that just felt so bad@ss. A rocking metal sound track too. It needed more characters, but that could have been revolved in a sequel. It really deserved a sequel.

[@tajdavis9958]

Eternal Champions was a big hit. I can tell cause it is the most commented on game in this video. I loved it too. Larcen and Shadow could've been as big as Ryu and Chun Li in North America if Sega of Japan hadn't been jealous of its success.

[@SilverAxe13]

Aww yeah here we go. A morning upload! Lol. Loving the content, SLX! Best Genesis fighter for me has got to me Street Fighter II: Special Champion Edition. Underrated port.

[@denisdesantanapelotti8842]

Great video man, congratulations for your channel, you are amazing, but you should have added "Pit Fighter" and "Weaponlord" in this list... So i leave a sugestion for a possible second part of this, you deserves a million of subscribes!!!

[@LeeONardo]

Weaponlord! oh man ... high in tech, in fact a bunch of things it brought to the table appeared from then on in fighters today.

[@denisdesantanapelotti8842]

@@LeeONardo Weaponlord is a underrated masterpiece, absolutely brilliant game!!!

[@LeeONardo]

@@denisdesantanapelotti8842 The funny thing is Namco have the rights, they should bring back one or two (Divada and Korr/Bane) into Soul Calibur and then get James Goddard in to develop a sequel/remaster.

[@denisdesantanapelotti8842]

@@LeeONardo This game have all potential to gain remake and sequels, but they prefer bet in a known and profitable franchise like Soul Calibur...a feather, this is a waste...

[@SteveCirelli]

Absolutely love Eternal Champions for Sega CD

[@CrestlineIceberg]

I love Sega a lot. Mortal Kombat 3 is my favorite of the trilogy as I never played Mortal Kombat 2 until I actually sat down to play it in Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks on PS2. I am glad to see it one the list here. Eternal Champions was another great one and very underrated. It's hard but fun and awesome to play.

[@LowKeyTired-q7d]

The best thing about Ballz 3d was the intro ...

[@bjraleigh1439]

it had ballz, that's for sure!

[@happyspaceinvader508]

@@bjraleigh1439 It was ballz.

[@kintypoo121]

Nearing the end of the video I was ready to run to the comments and ask "Where is Eternal Champions!!?", glad to see you mention it, as it was divisive and hard as nails, but it played well and looked pretty great for its time. Great content as always! Every time I watch a new video from you I want to dive back into the 90s and early 00s! It was a good era to be a young gamer.