Seiker Reacts: Epic: The Musical - Polyphemus/Survive

[@Im_1n_The_House]

“Mircsy when I get you” is such a common phrase from the people I’ve seen watch this lol

[@bradleybarnett1469]

Keep in mind, this tale has multiple layers. Polyphemus is a Young/Child Cyclops. Still like 20 feet tall, but a child. Hes also physically challenged/handicapped because he's a Runt/Dwarfism Cylcops. Hes smaller and weaker than even others of his age. The sheep are given to him by Poseidon as gifts to be his friends since the other Cyclops either ignore him or abuse him. So Odysseus came in, killed the favorite and only friends of a child, took them all, ate them (later of course), FURTHER crippled/mutilated him, and left him there to be abused more. At least if he killed him, then he wouldn't have been out in any more pain, which is Poseidon's point. Odysseus' mercy was crueler than just killing him

[@Fire.Flower.Animations]

thats sad !

[@halfknight2310]

my assumption, since they decided to actually come check on him, was they just ignored him, like that neighbor you wave to but don't interract with

[@bradleybarnett1469]

@halfknight2310 yes. And when he said nobody hurt him, they basically said, "Oh, you Blinded yourself? Sucks to suck. Shut the f**k up"

[@kittycatzuka]

A fun fact about Survive is that, according to Jorge in one of his videos, the first hit with the club only _injured_ Polites. The _second_ hit is what finally killed him. And the rest kill one man each. I counted like 15 total club smacks, so that's roughly 13 total deaths.

[@SeikerHikaru]

Oh that it SO much worse.

[@DeletedChannel-p6w]

It would be 14 total deaths, polities + 13 other soldiers

[@heartnerd6768]

But it’s only seven cause of the math in ruthlessness and underworld.

[@ssbruv]

​@@heartnerd6768 I guess some smacks missed lol

[@heartnerd6768]

@@ssbruv or I could be wrong lol

[@fireflyer97]

That hospitality thing is called the law of Xenia. The law was so important that Zues himself oversaw that law as one of his major domains.

[@SeikerHikaru]

See the name was on the tip of my tongue and I did remember it was something Zeus himself oversaw. Man took that VERY seriously... despite many, MANY other flaws.

[@tristanwellisch2637]

These two videos are why Mircsy is my personal favorite when it comes to the animatics. The expression work along with Polyphemus' design and the timing of the animation is fantastic!

[@powerfist1340]

In correction of my comment on the previous video: Despite the storytelling possibilities of Odysseus'... Relations with Circe and Calypso (especially in consideration of the dubious nature of his consent in those relations), with further research into the events of The Telegony I think it was probably for the best that ties to it were cut. My greatest interest in Epic beyond seeing the end of the story is whether or not Jorge is planning to do The Iliad and The Odyssey, and how he would shift events there to tell a story as well. Tl;dr The Telegony is *pretty bad.*

[@hannahhester8376]

Oh crap! The hospitality thing makes this SO much worse! Especially because even Poseidon realized, "Freaking hell, I just killed almost his entire crew and I didn't know the whole story, dammit."

[@polochuck2371]

Tbh I don’t think Poseidon would care at all

[@area52ron]

@@polochuck2371he would if it made him look bad

[@area52ron]

The tone change with Polites being pancaked reminds me of that scene in Mulan in the song a girl worth fighting for

[@shadow_vibezz]

19:30 I just noticed the little lotus eater holding Odysseus’s hair (so cute!!!) Edit: 21:58 the little lotus eater trying to reach out for Odysseus is so cute but so sad cause if you think about it could look like it doesn’t want him to get hurt by the cyclops

[@ShyyGaladriel]

Hear me out, I think the background for the stage should have a giant screen that would have effects for things. Like ocean waves during Storm, etc. Like imagine when Zeus comes in in the Horse and the Infant to have a little clouds and lightning for ambiance. So Polyphemus is a giant red eye that appears on the screen then disappears. Then they treat the Cyclops like they treated the giant in Into the Woods; they face the audience and look up like they're speaking to a person. In the song where they're fighting him, they could go out into the audience and look like they're fighting, leaving Polites onstage.

[@falcoskywolf]

Something I just noticed during this watch! The little Winion loses his flower over the course of the events! It's starting to tatter in "Polyphemus," and in that shot where he's standing there terrified, petals are falling! I think it's a great symbol for losing his stoned innocence. Where the lotus loses control of his brain because trauma shocks him out of his stupor.

[@SamsonCrass]

I particularly love mircsy’s design here. Odysseus is in the wrong from an objective standpoint especially when you take the Godly Laws of hospitality into account. Odysseus invaded Polyphemus’s home, killed his friend, and then tried to steal everything else. He even dismissed the value Polyphemus attributes to his sheep by calling what is murder from Poly’s perspective a simple misunderstanding. The question, or rather theme, of “When does a Man become a Monster,” is excellently displayed here and is all the more accentuated by mircsy’s design of Poly, the focus on the sheep during “no bloodshed in here today”, and the addition of horns to Odysseus’s shadow. Who’s the Monster here? The utterly terrifying and hideous creature (again, exceptional work Mircsy. My favorite cyclops design ever.) or just a man?

[@falcoskywolf]

Exactly. They were not GUESTS, they came into his home without being welcomed in. If they had at least announced themselves and asked for entry, THEN Polyphemus would have been in the wrong for mistreating them, unless they otherwise abused his hospitality. But Xenia never permitted someone to just barge in and take your shit.

[@SunshinePolites]

mircsy really needs to watch their back what with all the threats of tracking them down lol oh and wolfy too. both of them make it hurt so good and people are out for their blood lol.

[@SeidrSnowsong]

Polites dying here is entirely a Jorge original. In the Myth i believe he dies during the Scylla/Charbdis section or when their boat gets Zeused.! This was entirely designed to just traumatize the audience and Ody!

[@area52ron]

“I’m so glad we see eye to eye” According to others a fan of Greek mythology no that would not be insulting For me it would probably be annoying if they are told this over and over and over again until it lost its charm but you would either get an annoyed look and sigh or a sarcastic laugh and a sassy “wow haven’t heard that for the millionth time” but not cause them to be violent

[@mirandabee2323]

I like imagining that, for the stage, at least one person controls a Polyphemus puppet while another person provides the voice. Sort of like Audrey II in Little Shop of Horrors.

[@mielliot13]

The play doesn't bring up hospitality in Act 1 at least, they might bring it up in Act 2. Spoilers from snippets/the original stories The suitors are abusing the $#!& out of the hospitality rules and basically cant be evicted until they literally try to murder and assault their host. Edit (made the comment too early): you talked about it already for the polyphemus being a bad host, that may still come up with Odysseus's silver tongue though

[@someothermon584]

When it comes to Polyphemus, I think it would be really cool if they did something like what Starkid did for Wiggly in their musical Black Friday. That was super cool and would definitely add to the surprise when he appears.

[@potofle]

I notice something new each time I watch animatics of this musical. I never noticed the wound on Polites until you pointed it out, and then...does-does Odysseus break away and rush forward at the end to gather Polites' boDY IN HIS ARMS?? *cries a lot* Mircsy, when I catch you-!! 💔

[@area52ron]

Polities has the smallest screen time but the biggest impact other than the infant both in universe and out

[@SeidrSnowsong]

The Odyssey can be seen pretty much entirely as a guide to proper hopsitality behavior

[@kekekekekekw7263]

Since you will most probably watch Wolfy's version of My Goodbye, it would be so cool if you can also react to Mircy's version of it

[@ex_reytay7019]

I'm gonna need the next two songs sir...

[@pianissimo7121]

The 600 lifes verse cannot come back.... They are no longer 600 lifes

[@Alexsism]

Who wins greeting life with open arms or ruthlessness?

[@Razdasoldier]

Me: He is doing the thing that will hurt his soul. Welp I don't know who he is but I want to see his pain.

[@yoriemakeeta5798]

Love the use for the reality app

[@SeikerHikaru]

When you're broke af one must make do

[@yoriemakeeta5798]

@@SeikerHikaru fŕ! I'm on reality too

[@BeastofMyself]

He’s not human and doesn’t go by human rules so why would or should Poly be a host to invaders 😂😂😂

[@BeastofMyself]

Also all this happened after the infant moment so it doesn’t really make sense to have it be on screen 😅😅😅 they’re talking about Polyphemus

[@SeidrSnowsong]

The gods and monsters were all bound to the laws of hospitality. It was one of the single most important aspects of Greek culture and Zeus himself oversaw the law as one of his -major- domains.

[@maklobo2890]

this is why i love Mircsy animatics and Anniflamma s Ruthlessness, both potraid Polyphemus and Poseidon in a scary and powerfull form

[@PencilKing21]

I like Gigi's ruthlessness more in a storytelling perspective with how it meshes with the other songs and story, but I like Anniflamma's more visually as its own discrete entity, with the very cool Poseidon design.