Seiko Presage SARW025 - Seiko Laurel Reinvented

Seiko Presage SARW025 - Seiko Laurel Reinvented on the JustBlueFish KZbin channel, home of high quality wristwatch and horology related reviews and videos.
5 Ways You Can Help JustBlueFish
Direct Donation:
www.paypal.me/...
Become a Patreon:
/ justbluefish
Shop on Amazon (my affiliate link):
amzn.to/2rIzw9K
Provide Watches for Review (contact me):
[e-mail]
My Social Media Accounts:
/ justbluefish
/ justbluefish007
/ justbluefish
#####################################
On loan from a generous viewer, today I am reviewing the Seiko Presage SARW025. Based on the original Seiko wrist watch, the Seiko Laurel, the Presage SARW025 takes design cues from their classic and original watch from the year 1913 and reinvents it in a contemporary rendition.
Seiko Presage SARW025 on Amazon:
amzn.to/2NnP50j
#####################################
Thanks for watching!

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

Bought this watch last year, its a keeper.

[@JustBlueFish]

How has the time keeping been over that time?

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

It runs 6-10s slow, it can be adjusted but I dont bother.

[@JustBlueFish]

That’s not bad. Anything within 10 seconds is fine for me, if it’s not a chronometer.

[@4034miguel]

I love Power Reserve complications. It is really useful. That is way I like Orient Star watches: For OS, it is a quasi-standard feature

[@JustBlueFish]

I haven’t looked into Orient Star too closely, I didn’t realize the routinely use a power reserve indicator. That’s pretty cool.

[@eusupporter8438]

May be it is not the right watch for you...but it is for me 😉

[@JustBlueFish]

If it were a bit smaller it would be excellent for me. Enjoy it and wear it in good health.

[@zaf240489]

Enjoying your constant uploads. Much appreciated. Keep it up.

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks, as long as I have content I'll keep making videos.

[@MJHiteshew]

I got this watch maybe 4-5 months ago. Really love it!

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks for watching Mike, and enjoy the Seiko!

[@jasue2000]

The 6r15 in my SARB065 is keeping +2 seconds per day for the last 2 1/2 years, there is lots of anecdotal evidence for that performance. I did immediately throw away the strap though

[@andreilungu1136]

I have a Seiko skx009 and I took it to a watchmaker because it was running +12 seconds/day. He adjusted the mechanism in about 2-3 minutes, for which I paid aprox. 3 dollars. Now my Seiko skx009 runs +1 second/day, but there are days when it runs slow -1 second a day. After 1 hole week of wearing it I discovered that the watch had +5 seconds deviation. I also own a Seiko Presage with the 4R36 movement, which after calibration by the same watcmaker runs +3-4 seconds/day, which is why I just love this brand so much.

[@JustBlueFish]

I did a video on how to regulate Seiko watches, it's pretty easy to do and kind of fun, you should look into trying it yourself.

[@gustomundo]

I really like the style of this watch, case shape etc.

[@chrisauge6802]

Thanks for the review Guy. I like that pattern on the dial

[@JustBlueFish]

Yeah the dial pattern, which I couldn't remember at the time would be described as herringbone, is very sharp.

[@slknvgdf]

Had the chance to buy this watch with 50% off last year about a month before this vid came out. Best buy I've made yet

[@Sutlore007]

It is a truely beautiful watch for me

[@pegasusltc328]

18:16 I believe that you were trying to describe that herringbone pattern on that white enamel dial. The design of this watch just is a breath of fresh air from those featureless dial designs of the typical affordable Tissots, Hamiltons, Oris watches. This watch dial is outstanding and I can admire it all day long! Very few other watches can have that effect on me. The other exception is the Rolex Explorer.

[@JustBlueFish]

Yep, herringbone, someone else pointed that out already. I couldn't think of the word.

[@dostoevsky90]

I would recommend not to downplay Tissot at least after considering the crappy QC issues in seiko even for watches upto $1000 … there fkd up customer support (in india atleast), their cost vs utility ratio ….. Tissots are too gud atleast consisting their prx, gentlemen , ballad , Le Locle and some sports models … rather today i can confidently say that they are the dark horses of the watch industry…i own mojito mocktail and spb317 1968 reinterpretation and hence this is through my experience…

[@Sam-pn5nh]

Let me tell you something about this watch i baught it last week on Amazon. 4 + second a day movment inside protect by steal ring and screw. Compared to my tag aquaracer 2800 Canadian. The tag +12 second a day plastic ring holding the movment! Sold my tag never ever again. I will buy more seiko.

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks for watching

[@CarloDimacali]

I'm not a dress watch kind of guy, but I have to admit that's one nice watch. For me, the GS you reviewed a few days ago would have been more appealing if it had the same PR orientation as that watch. I love the number font, and love The herring bone pattern. The only thing I would criticize on the dial is that I wished they framed the complication cutouts with a polished stainless or thin black trim. Another fantastic review Guy!

[@JustBlueFish]

herringbone, that's the word for the dial pattern I was trying to find. Yeah it's very nice, coupled with the rest of the dial layout, it looks great.

[@AlanHearnshaw]

That’s a beautiful watch. I actually prefer the look with the power reserve indicator. Incidentally, I once heard someone say the word: “price” without adding the redundant “point”. They were simpler times. 😏

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks for watching Alan.

[@ramonalbertotamayoisla2592]

Very good review. I concur with most of your points of view there.....

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks for watching Ramon.

[@Gravy_Master]

Holy crap I had no clue that thing was as tall as it is. I was actually planning on ordering one in the next couple of days (or possibly even in the next few hours depending on how much whisky I drink tonight) but now I need to slow down and think about it. That side view is CHUNKY and definitely doesn’t match the watch’s general elegance. Dammit there’s always something...

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks for watching I appreciate it.

[@haybob2527]

The Cresent moon on the second-hand lines up with the o in the Seiko Logo too, great review.👍

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks for watching I appreciate it.

[@69Suluk]

Looks exactly like the SPB059J1, the only difference is the text on the dial. SARW025 is a two liner with only the applied "Seiko" branding and "Automatic" under it while SPB059J1 is a three liner with "Presage" printed directly under "Seiko" then "Automatic" below.

[@hfuffvnjvnijd8989]

Seiko confirmed that it is 100% real croco strap

[@neilus0]

Great review as always Guy. I have the SPB045 which is a similar watch with enamel dial. Its really beautiful, I often just look at the curves of the dial and the blue hands. A really great watch

[@JustBlueFish]

That’s the one with the Roman numerals right? Great looking watch as well.

[@cretan911]

Wing span hahahah love it. Geek sent me here...love your channel.

[@JustBlueFish]

I need to trademark that phrase. And thanks WatchGeek!

[@jonuiuc]

I wish they did a version of the enamel dial with the red twelve. I like the second hand half moon too.

[@JustBlueFish]

An enamel dial version would be nice to see.

[@jaycuevas9467]

There is one now in 2024

[@ismethadzic]

Received this watch 2 weeks ago. I usually wear sports or casual clothes. It's more like dress watch. But man it's a beauty. I don't care if it's look funny and not match with my clothes :)

[@mrdisco99]

I prefer the SARX041 as an homage to the Laurel. Simpler dial, and the case is not as tall. I'm not a big fan of date dials. Also the 6R15 movement has a longer power reserve and is a lot more common if you need it serviced, and with a slower vibration will probably last longer as well.

[@JustBlueFish]

Yeah of the 3 I think I'd go with the simpler version as well.

[@JerodNecessary]

I'd get both! 🙂

[@cretan911]

I concur. I hate that the 6 is chopped off.

[@kevorknourian5442]

Stunning

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks for watching.

[@entroheat]

Bought the black dial metal band version new from eBay for 338 plus tax best deal I ever got

[@ernestkrajnc6412]

Very nice watch. It has some kind of "Longines" dial aldove...

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks for watching.

[@chrisg-gg2iu]

Not sure why but Seiko didn’t the day wheel to this one. I have a SARW037 and it has a date and day wheel with power reserve indicator. Some SARW Presage watches have the extra wheel and others don’t.

[@JustBlueFish]

I'd say more often than not they don't do a date sub dial, that's pretty uncommon.

[@eseskay99]

With the herringbone pattern dial, it almost looks like it is "chipped" at the cut-outs for the power reserve and date complications.

[@timur7381]

Reminds me of my Longines Master quite a bit, especially the simpler version on the right at 4:18

[@monsterous289]

I don't see much use for a power reserve indicator on an automatic watch. It should be near peak reserve throughout the day, and only maybe dipping when the wearer falls asleep. Regardless, I wish more power reserve indicators were shown in the display case on the back, unobtruding the actual dial.

[@JustBlueFish]

I like seeing the power reserve level on a watch. But it would be cool if they were able to put them on the case back instead.

[@ImanoffGolf]

Is it the same with SPB059J1 model?

[@petershallis2294]

This would be my wife's perfect watch, not because it has any particular feminine aesthetic, it just suits her needs/taste...but that thickness takes it out of the equation, it's ludicrous, surely Seiko could have made it slimmer than that.

[@JustBlueFish]

It stands pretty tall on the wrist, especially for a dress watch.

[@meisme8809]

Sarx039 is the black version with date window and no subdials. Thinner (height), 6r15, super gangs. I got one. 54000 yen in japan today

[@meisme8809]

With a steel bracelet

[@shaunmclaughlin5167]

In my experience Seiko are very conservative with their movement accuracy ratings. My SNK803 (7s26 movement) and SNZJ15 (7s36 movement) both keep within +/- 2.5 s/d which is significantly more than their rated accuracy. I'd guess Seiko prefers to both under promise, over deliver and save money on QC by listing generous accuracy ranges.

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks for watching.

[@shaunmclaughlin5167]

@@JustBlueFish thank you for your review style. In a good way your delivery has a certain matter of fact dryness to it. Your tone of voice gives away very little of your feelings about a watch. I find this makes it easier to evaluate the content of you opinions. I like the length of your reviews too. Often I play them in the background while performing data entry at work. They're never too long as I play them at 1.5x speed to save time if needed - something that can only be done because of your clear speech. Thank you for the hard work!

[@newsigmundfreud3023]

Thanks you for *a pleasant review to watch and to learn from. Very helpful.* I would buy this watch if this would be more accurate. 15 seconds per month would go along with a purchase of this watch.. This watch is too thick. The face is everything perfect. Have any idea any similar watches to this without the thickness??

[@JustBlueFish]

Similar but thinner? I’d look at some Hamilton watches.

[@newsigmundfreud3023]

@@JustBlueFish Thanks. Nothing is as perfect to me of this watch's face as the the face of this watch. The numerical are the perfect style for my taste, the "power" reserve indicator,.. EVERYTHING here besides its thickness and big time distortion on a daily or even weekly basis, which makes me not buy this watch. Hamilton doesn't have close enough as far as I searched. Your review is very accurate and brings out a very clear picture about this watch.

[@newsigmundfreud3023]

@@JustBlueFish Here is one I would choose over this Seiko: GRAF ZEPPELIN LZ129 HINDENBURG AUTOMATIC WATCH WITH POWER RESERVE.

[@m.t.9837]

I hope at this price than this Seiko model doesn't have a plastic in the movement..!

[@u.u.upatreonrequests8679]

42mm is perfect

[@MartinJablonski]

Nice dial. Seconds hand is too short though.

[@JustBlueFish]

I didn’t notice it to be too short.

[@zamSEG]

hello sir, great video. i would love to see your full indepth review about this seiko sbdc007 "shogun" in the future. i really hope you can make it. thank you very much. :)

[@JustBlueFish]

That SBDC007 Shogun and the SBDC051 are 2 Seiko watches I've wanted to review for a long time. I haven't found anyone with either of them to borrow unfortunately.

[@zamSEG]

maybe because it is a rare breed sir. hope there is someone somewhere will give it to you as birthday present or at least lend it for the sake of horology in humanity. :)

[@eljayr4669]

Nice looking watch but it is a bit too thick and the accuracy would be a serious issue with me.

[@JustBlueFish]

Yeah it's chunky that's for sure.

[@billmurphy893]

Accuracy is its strength.... I own this piece and many pieces with eta movements and this one is one of the most accurate of the 20 autos that I own no matter what brand. It also has more reserve and a 4hz movement. And the polishing the best of anything I have seen anywhere close to the this price. Case shape is just soo nice and all of that is before you consider the dial.

[@22Phanatic]

Food for thought, I just purchased a Hamilton Khaki with the H10 movement and 80 hour power reserve and it is running at +25 to +30 sec day! Totally disappointing tbh . ugh

[@JustBlueFish]

Yeah that would be unacceptable. All my H10 movements were much more accurate. In an email Hamilton told me their non chronometer watches should be -10 to +15 seconds per day.

[@tailsneon556]

It might be magnetized.

[@Sam-pn5nh]

Hamilton and a lot of swiss brands they are not what they use to be ! I just bought the seiko you reviewed man the quality the dail its amazing so happey

[@vinaynagdev3774]

Can this watch fit in small size wrist??and what about maintenance servicing period of the watch?

[@JustBlueFish]

I'd say it could work for any wrist size down to perhaps 6.5", if the wearer likes a watch a bit on the larger side. As far as servicing periods, I'm not sure that Seiko has ever published a recommended servicing interval, so I don't know.

[@ats7485]

Why they made it that thick (13mm)? Is it for style, or engineering need?

[@JustBlueFish]

I honestly don’t know.

[@ats7485]

Regardless, the more I look at it, the more I conclude it is definitely a beautiful work of art. I am reminded of videos I've seen of Disney staff artists and how they are given creative atmosphere so that they can create masterful works. I wonder if they do something like that with Seiko designers.

[@mrdisco99]

I think the extra complications on the dial may have something to do with it

[@TinBin-Craig]

nice watch the accuracy would put me off for the price...

[@JustBlueFish]

Yeah, these entry level Seiko movements don't really impress me to be honest. They're fine for the watches in the $100-$500 range I guess, but once we start getting over that level my expectations are going to go up, and in my experience these movements don't meet those expectations.

[@whitemailprivilege2830]

I know I shouldn’t get you wrong, but I got you wrong.

[@JustBlueFish]

Check your privilege!

[@cretan911]

At 9:11 does the back end of the second hand encompass the "O" in Seiko if you look at it straight on?

[@JustBlueFish]

You know I’m nit sure. I sent that watch back to it’s owner a long time ago so I can’t check. But it looks close in the video.

[@Mhassar]

Are the hands blue or black?

[@masqueman01]

It's huge (and beautiful) ... Seiko shrink them, especially in height!

[@JustBlueFish]

Thanks for watching I appreciate it.

[@imranchowdhury4972]

The dial finishing lacks finishing near the power reserve and date window. Looks like someone scratched those two place. Finally after rambling for 30 mins the presenter failed to inform the dial material. Isn't it a pitty???

[@JustBlueFish]

Being as Seiko doesn’t list what the dial material is on their website the presenter wouldn’t know what it is. He could ramble some more and make a guess perhaps? Would that please you?

[@imranchowdhury4972]

JustBlueFish Watch Reviews No that wouldn't really and that is why I like your reviews. But in many reviews I found that the material is Ceramic.

[@sevrdaf]

The watch is good looking etc, but the segment is not for me, and those close-ups...the finish....could have been done better, Besides the alignment on their divers, is Seiko jumping the lower fence on quality-control even further(?) Still love Seiko, think they are great watches/brand, but...we get what we pay for. Great review as always, thank you.

[@JustBlueFish]

I didn't feel like the finish was bad, I've always been pretty impressed with Seiko's JDM watches and the case finishing.

[@sevrdaf]

I didnt mean so much the case-sides etc. , but as Carlo stated, they could have done something about the cutouts, thats really a shame for a good looking dial. I often look at SeiyaJapan.com, but ive never pulled the tricker on a JDM yet. maybe in the future, i cant say.

[@JSarmat86]

I would say "you get half of what you paid for". This applies not only to this model in particular, but to all other models from Seiko.

[@sevrdaf]

its hard to say all pro or all contra, BUT...for one, the Seiko snzf17k1 (Sea Urchin.), is...for a starter/beginners watch ( automatic ), one of the best watches to start with (got my son one, when he started out.), and overall..its the best bang per buck, so im not saying Seiko is bad, not at all, but over the years im not impressed by quality/qualitycontrol. one of my daily beaters is a srp637, its a great Seiko, but..as all in the low end of the line, its a bit slow on the secs every day, not much, but..it is. but it does the trick and can handle a door-knock out. i dont think "we get half of what we pay for", i do believe we get a bit more, but certain models is, well....not holding their value as good as others, thats true. are Seiko´s overpriced, nah...i dont think so either (forget about discontinued models, they are)This is it for me on the matter, i rest my case.

[@JSarmat86]

What I said is not just empty words. When people buy Seiko, they pay at least twice as much as the watch deserves. For example, Seiko use the same movement (the 7s-ish one) in SNK809 (60-70 USD) and in SKX line (around 200 USD). The Orient Mako Ray II is better than the SKX007 in almost every aspect and it's less expensive! My Shanghai S017 (50 USD) has hacking and handwinding feature and SKX does not!!! They put parts made in China even on their JDM models (see the video about SARB035 on J.Anthony's chanel). Speacking about SARB035. On seiyajapan.com the model SARX019 costs 668 USD at the moment. The cost of SARB035 was 300-350 USD. Both watches share a 6R15 movement and a +/- similar case. Can You justify the price increase by 300 USD due to blue-painted hands and plain white dial? I can't. Don't get me wrong, i love both models, but i just can't justify the price. Same with SARW025 - it can't cost more than 500 USD. Unfortunately Seiko parasitizes on people's love for the brand. :( I really like this joke: The son asks his father -- Dad, why do dogs lick their balls? -- Because they can, son. Same is with Seiko. -- Why they put such a inferior movement on SKX? -- Because people will buy it anyway. :(

[@simeonaleksiev8690]

I dont like the crescent seconds hand

[@JustBlueFish]

No? I like that little detail.

[@PTExp]

Do any of the Seiko metal bracelets fit on this watch seamlessly?

[@Jsmashfq]

Nope, I tried many seiko bracelets. Nothing fits.

[@PTExp]

@@Jsmashfq thanks for letting me know.

[@Jsmashfq]

@@PTExp you're welcome:)

[@trubadyr99]

I strongly disagree with your water resistance grumbling, man. Water resistance is always better than a lack thereof as long as it does not result in bulkiness of the watch.

[@JustBlueFish]

For me, none of my watches ever get wet so as long as they are sealed enough to endure Florida humidity WR is really a non-factor. I'll clean my Submariner from time to time under the sink but the rest of my watches have rarely had more than a drop of water hit them.

[@Redonepunch]

That chunkiness is very unattractive for a dress watch

[@JustBlueFish]

It does stand a little too tall on the wrist for the style of watch that it is.

[@Ateliersound1]

It’s not a dress watch though.. this is an everyday watch.. with a dressier style.. should be obvious since the timepiece carries 10 atm..

[@jharris947]

This version needs to have the power reserve indicator removed from the dial. It totally spoils the balance and looks of the dial. Who the hell needs a power reserve indicator on an everyday watch? The dial would look lovely without it. Don't like the chopped off figure 6. Don't like the thickness for this style of watch. Don't like the large size. Far too big and bulky for my liking. In the wrist shots it looked big and bulky on your wrist.

[@JustBlueFish]

The watch is stout. Too large for my personal tastes, but there are a lot of things I do like about it. Still I couldn't see myself wearing it regularly.