Seiko SPB453 (62MAS) 6 Month Review: Lesson In Refinement (+Uncle Straps Z199 Upgrade)

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The Watch Idiot

The Watch Idiot

Күн бұрын

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@TheFuturisticVintage
@TheFuturisticVintage Күн бұрын
Great video. I love how Seiko did the date window with these.
@koolpep
@koolpep Күн бұрын
And I just picked one up - your video pushing me over the edge - and yes - it's super comfortable and a real feel good watch for sure!
@nedflanders3769
@nedflanders3769 2 күн бұрын
Literally just rewatched your previous video on this watch yesterday. It’s a sweet watch. Also, I have the same current gen SMP 300 black dial that you have, and I’m wearing the SPB411 today. “This means something… this is important!” (sculpts pile of mashed potatoes into a mountain…)
@stratplexi
@stratplexi 2 күн бұрын
Beautiful watch and nice job summarizing the attributes of this model. It is on my short list.
@jeid3822
@jeid3822 2 күн бұрын
What a beautiful SEIKO❤😊
@thewatchidiot
@thewatchidiot 2 күн бұрын
Seiko did a fantastic job with this one!!
@user-iz9co4qf6z
@user-iz9co4qf6z Күн бұрын
I have a z199 on my 143 and it's elevated to the next level
@MurdaOnYou
@MurdaOnYou Күн бұрын
I’m subbed to a handful of watch channels . This one is my favourite
@rsq72
@rsq72 2 күн бұрын
Food for thought.. I have and love the z199 on my 007 and 009, just feels so appropriate on those, and I agree with everything you say, love how they’re fully brushed, and feel very fluid and light, so comfortable. I also have the 143 in my collection and adore it, strap monster, and such a pretty dial that I think I’d miss if I swapped it for the 453. I have a 7.75” wrist so it wears great but that little height reduction is welcome, though very slight. Can’t go wrong with either, just wish the 6R movements were more accurate, almost always run slow in my experience, shame they’re not a little fast instead! Great channel.
@Polter6eist
@Polter6eist Күн бұрын
An awesome in between piece would be the new legend diver 39 mm in black laquered dial. Just beautiful
@ryan850r
@ryan850r 2 күн бұрын
Love the design of this Seiko. It's a bummer Seiko has never been able to create a good bracelet. At least there are aftermarket options that make the wearing experience better.
@leandros7662
@leandros7662 2 күн бұрын
I actually don’t mind the bracelet of these. I mean yeah the Strapcode and Uncle straps bracelets are much better, but the stock ones are not too bad. Better than the older ones I guess.
@ryan850r
@ryan850r 2 күн бұрын
@@leandros7662 youre right. They are better than previous bracelets. Where I'm coming from is my expectation for a watch at this price point should have a better one. Preference would be a better clasp, thinner links, and a taper to 16mm.
@thewatchidiot
@thewatchidiot 2 күн бұрын
Yeah the bracelet that came on this 453 is better and it's wearable, but at the very least they need to get rid of that absolutely moronic dive extension clasp. Useless and makes the clasp sit weird on the wrist. I swap it out on every Seiko that has one immediately
@jerryglasses
@jerryglasses 2 күн бұрын
​@@leandros7662 the bracelets themselves aren't bad at all. It's the clasps. Better to just replace the clasp than the whole thing. I don't find the strap code bracelets materially better than the Seiko bracelet. $10 for a clasp or $90 for the whole thing.
@mistarmer
@mistarmer Күн бұрын
I like the bracelet but wish that there was an aftermarket quick adjust clasp.
@scottlynch5804
@scottlynch5804 19 сағат бұрын
Fantastic video as usual. I may have to pick up a SPB453 now. I have a Z199 for my Seiko Turtle. I agree with what you said. Just a fantastic bracelet at a fair price. I'm not sure why Seiko can't figure out how to make a better bracelet. Cheers!
@BigMike81
@BigMike81 2 күн бұрын
I ended up buying the SPB455 special edition gilt version and love it.
@DrRonP
@DrRonP 2 күн бұрын
Great choice! For many of the same reasons, and an even lighter wearing experience, I chose the Pelagos 39. Can’t go wrong with a Seiko Prospex watch though, especially if you upgrade the bracelet as you did. Enjoy!
@nick_k.6000
@nick_k.6000 2 күн бұрын
This is why I bought the Tudor BB41 Burgundy yesterday instead of this Monochrome.. everyone replicates this design/color and although it’s a great watch, it didn’t feel special for that reason. The burgundy felt more unique and upscale than the Monochrome
@Bonatno
@Bonatno 2 күн бұрын
Great video, but can you tell us about the accuracy of the 6r55 compared to the 6r35? My 143 is abysmal with low amplitude at face up and worst crown down and 12 down.
@thewatchidiot
@thewatchidiot 2 күн бұрын
Right now when I'm wearing it daily, it loses about 2-3 seconds which is great and it's doing well on the winder. My SPB313 slim Willard tho loses quite a bit of time on the winder but dial up on my nightstand and on the wrist better. My MM200 GMT gains about 6-7 seconds per day but 12 up on the winder it loses time. Unfortunately there's no real guarantee that a movement will be accurate but hopefully Seiko can tighten this up in the future
@Luke-w5q
@Luke-w5q 2 күн бұрын
@Bonatno, it's a 6R Seiko. Can be +-2 spd today and +-1 minute a day tomorrow, for no reason.
@Bonatno
@Bonatno 2 күн бұрын
@@thewatchidiot it’s crazy, my 313 slim turtle was sent out to seiko service because I f’ed the balance while trying to regulate the movement and it came back with very good performance. I think all 6r35 needs a clean, service, and put back to be somewhat okay. I’m contemplating if the 6r55 is better in accuracy I’d sell my 143 for it. If the 6r55 is still shit then I would send the 143 out to be serviced for better accuracy.
@Bonatno
@Bonatno 2 күн бұрын
@@Luke-w5q that’s so true, my 143 was okay accurate, but this month the amplitude dropped to under 200 crown down and 12 down with accuracy-60 seconds a day. Face up is better at 240 amplitude and decent accuracy. I’m so sick of paying 1k for shit accuracy.
@Tyler-sl6vg
@Tyler-sl6vg 2 күн бұрын
My 453 was set before Christmas and it's currently 6 seconds slow (edit - to be clear it's lost 6s in over a month so under 1s per day). This is not wearing it daily but it hasn't stopped running for a month (3 day power reserve is great). I have had a lot of 6r watches and have had terrible luck. One went off by > 40 seconds within 2 years. One was about 30 seconds at the 3 year mark. I think all the others 8-15s fast or slow per day. Definitely could be luck of the draw but I have seen a lot of other comments around about good accuracy of the 6r55 in the 453 so maybe it's a better movement or maybe they are starting to regulate these watches in the higher price bracket.
@edteach3r
@edteach3r 2 күн бұрын
Excellent video, Sir. You make a compelling case for the SPB453, so I am off to check my ADs website for stock!
@gabemoza9569
@gabemoza9569 2 күн бұрын
I've got the blue version of this same watch, bought it Aug 2024. I love it, and can totally see how's it's better for me than my old Black Bay 58 Blue. The onle complaint I have is that the date is hard to read in low light situations.
@edmondolguin387
@edmondolguin387 2 күн бұрын
I’m considering this watch and the pelagos 39. Thoughts on which you prefer? Not sure if the $3000 premium is worth it…
@JohnnyBeans-w9k
@JohnnyBeans-w9k 2 күн бұрын
I have the pelagos blue dial with date. Their bracelet have a Tfit and it’s great
@clayderouin857
@clayderouin857 2 күн бұрын
cool vid thanx. so now is there oyster bracelet options for either your baby mm or this new 62mas?
@thewatchidiot
@thewatchidiot 2 күн бұрын
Uncle straps has a beads of rice bracelet for the MM200 GMT that I got but it's the only option for it for now. This Z199 is the only one for the SPB453 for now as well. I'm hoping an oyster style bracelet gets released for one of these bc I'll definitely get it!
@clayderouin857
@clayderouin857 2 күн бұрын
​@@thewatchidiotYes, I've got the sbp385 and I've been patiently waiting for an Oyster, but only beads of rice. Did you comment on that one, on your channel before or what do u think of it?
@Soulsilver75
@Soulsilver75 Күн бұрын
@@thewatchidiot I tried the oyster bracelet for the 143 on my 451. If does fit - not perfectly, but it works. The oyster bracelet looks outstanding with it. The Z199 looks great and wears so comfortably, but really looking forward to an oyster. Would I be insane to own both a 451 and a 453? Because I'm extremely close to doing so ... I love my 451 so much!
@simmysharma6845
@simmysharma6845 2 күн бұрын
love that Seiko. 😊
@thewatchidiot
@thewatchidiot 2 күн бұрын
Same here! I'm glad Seiko made this update
@kostya121212
@kostya121212 2 күн бұрын
How is the color matching between the case and the Uncle bracelet? The watch itself and the original bracelet are a title gray looking because of the hard coating. I love my SPB453 but I'm hesitant to buy the Uncle bracelet because I'm afraid it wouldn't match the color of the metal properly
@MaleGolfer
@MaleGolfer Күн бұрын
I thought it looked pretty good in the video.
@andrewford544
@andrewford544 2 күн бұрын
Great video, I love mine too. I wear it mostly on a black Divecore HP rubber divers strap. If you haven't heard of them you should check them out. Looks great on my SPB 383 too. They're the divers straps out there in my opinion.
@thewatchidiot
@thewatchidiot 2 күн бұрын
I haven't heard of them but I checked it out and they're pretty cool! It's nice to see that they have the fat quick release spring bars so I can make them work for seikos and my other watches. But first I think I'll go for the black one for the 383, sounds like a great combo!
@typebflieger
@typebflieger 2 күн бұрын
I’m a big fan of this updated version. However, I got the SPB149 when it came out and love the blue-grey dial and gilt second hand too much to ditch it for this version. Hopefully, Seiko release some interesting new colorways that don’t overlap too much with the 143 era.
@cagataycakmak2280
@cagataycakmak2280 2 күн бұрын
The only thing I dislike is the 3 days text on the dial. With todays standards it isn't something to brag about in that price range and I think it was better with the previous iteration when it didn't have it.
@kianschmeling3893
@kianschmeling3893 2 күн бұрын
Hi I would like to know how I can find a stainless steel strap for a Seiko that has good quality but is not eye-catching?
@thewatchidiot
@thewatchidiot 2 күн бұрын
Check out Strapcode and Uncle Straps, they make bracelets for lots of different seikos so they might have one for your Seiko!
@siddhant46s54
@siddhant46s54 2 күн бұрын
It’s the 70th anniversary of the 62mas this year , I wonder what Seiko is cooking up this time around. Hopefully a really nice SLA limited edition with an 8L movement . Another thing Seiko could do is just release a standard non limited edition SLA017 grey anthracite dial classic 62mas with the 8L35 movement , they would literally make so much bank off of it , I don’t get why Seiko refuse to see the potential in that . It’s a dream Seiko 62mas for sooo many Seikopaths out there !!
@thewatchidiot
@thewatchidiot 2 күн бұрын
Yeah fingers crossed that it'll be something special! I'd be ok with new dials but 70 is a big anniversary so hopefully it's an all new 62MAS style watch and maybe with an upgraded bracelet and clasp. Let's see what happens! I'd love a standard issue sla017 or the smaller SJE version that was released last year or the year before. If only there were more!
@siddhant46s54
@siddhant46s54 2 күн бұрын
@ I don’t think a new 62mas style watch might be coming cuz they just did that with the new 62mas inspired marinemaster 200’s that came out in last year . Yeah let’s see how it goes . Thoughts on the new MM300 SLA079 ? I’m getting it this year , it’s the smaller thinner and more refined MM300 i’ve been dreaming about for years now . Would love to see a review from you , if you could get your hands on one !
@stevehenrytagami4709
@stevehenrytagami4709 2 күн бұрын
I love my SPB147 with the brown dial and gilt lndexes which I think looks great on a brown leather strap. I may get an Uncle J style but this gives me BB58 vibes but slightly bigger , as my wrists are too large for a 39mm diver . I am looking for a monochrome watch so may take your advice as I do love Seiko. Mine are accurate and I have a Seiko LX Springdrive if I need absolute accuracy. But changing watches daily I barely notice or care too much about a couple of seconds here and there . Seiko just have my favorite diver designs as I love a big 44mm divers with presence
@shj2000
@shj2000 2 күн бұрын
I got lost in the comparison stills. Which is which? And all the comparisons, OMG.
@Milofchg
@Milofchg 2 күн бұрын
All the BB41 needs are crown guards
@lazydrummer1
@lazydrummer1 2 күн бұрын
Thought about buying the BB monchrome but this Seiko has Great value 🧐 1/4 of the Price and looks almost the Same
@marcreyes8399
@marcreyes8399 Күн бұрын
had the z199 on my (SBDC105) SPB147 - the gilt one and absolutely loved that bracelet!!!... but opposite to you I prefer my BB58 over the Seiko
@avip671
@avip671 Сағат бұрын
If it didnt have the date it would be a day one buy for me
@wzk921109
@wzk921109 Күн бұрын
Best the seiko isn’t a difficult task.
@lockedowng
@lockedowng 2 күн бұрын
I have been holding off on buying the 143 hoping for the 453. Now that it's here, I am running out of excuses and this isn't helping.
@LexFez
@LexFez Күн бұрын
SPB455 owner of approx 3 months now. Love the watch, only thing I'd complain about is the annoyingly reflective, low quality crystal... and of course the useless divers extension (which is also getting scratched up by the clasp buckle.
@user-iz9co4qf6z
@user-iz9co4qf6z Күн бұрын
Seiko design language is much more interesting than any Tudor blandbay
@steelsteez6118
@steelsteez6118 Күн бұрын
Tudor makes nice watches the only problem is that they've become a Rolex homage brand.
@JohnnyBeans-w9k
@JohnnyBeans-w9k 2 күн бұрын
I’m so done with watches that don’t have a Tfit on the fly adjustment. Even micro brands have Tfit and their watches cost a lot less. Grand Seiko and omega are not putting it either, and they cost a lot more
@vinkostancic8784
@vinkostancic8784 2 күн бұрын
Seiko is nice, and for those looking to save some money, it's a good choice. But Tudor is better in every way.
@LyricFaith-v3u
@LyricFaith-v3u Күн бұрын
NO
@fungus70
@fungus70 Күн бұрын
Reminds me of the difference between Datejust II and 41 😅
@bikinglemur7738
@bikinglemur7738 2 күн бұрын
The Black Bay as a platform is a neat line inspired by vintage subs, but without any gilt or a colored bezel the BB41 monochrome just looks generic to me. IMO it gets dangerously close to "poor man's Rolex" vibe
@suissealan
@suissealan 2 күн бұрын
I could afford the blue palagos and went for the Seiko SPB451 instead. That will do for me.
@hubertuswolfthaler
@hubertuswolfthaler Күн бұрын
Has anyone ever bought a Tudor Black Bay and NOT resold it after a couple of months?
@manuel_winde
@manuel_winde 12 сағат бұрын
Purely on aesthetics and size I’d go with Seiko but their poor quality control and movements mean I’m done with them. Had pretty much every Seiko diver over the last few years but even the mm300, my favourite despite its size, had a great movement but the bezel ended up ruined and Seiko are terrible at aftercare. Love the sumo and spb143, love the skx but I have no confidence in seikos so would take a Tudor all day every day and twice on Sundays.
@andrewmunczenski3632
@andrewmunczenski3632 2 күн бұрын
Sorry no way i’d take this over my BB monochrome.
@syedsaadwasti
@syedsaadwasti Күн бұрын
Lucky guy ….. these are hobbies of the super rich elite … not regular people like me …. Sigh maybe one day I can buy a omega seamaster
@angetassou166
@angetassou166 Күн бұрын
A 1,36 et 1,53 mn. Tu montres la montre le guichet de date est entre deux chiffres!!!! Tu ose la comparer à Seamaster Oméga et Tudor BB 41 ? "Master chronometer". Il n'y a qu'à la Submariner que t'as pas osé la comparer pour dire qu'elle est meilleure. Que ne ferait-on pas pour un peu de sponsoring ; La Seiko, les Seiko qui ne sont pas des GS ne peuvent en aucun cas être comparer à de telles marques! Compare avec Orient , Longines à la limite et évite le haut du panier. 3Pourquoi ne pas la comparer à une Nautilus!"
@maitrehg
@maitrehg 2 күн бұрын
The BB Monochrome is infinitely superior in every way. Seiko's mid-tier movements, bracelets and clasp are mediocre. The perceived quality when handling the bracelet, bezel and crown is pathetic. Pathetic just like their accuracy. Comparing a mid-range Seiko with a fantastic watch like a Tudor BB is pure madness.
@d3xmeister
@d3xmeister 2 күн бұрын
It is, absolutely, but the Seiko looks much, much better in my opinion
@pk1342
@pk1342 2 күн бұрын
Yeah 3 series are overrated and designed to break down within a few years and Corollas are the best selling car for a good reason. They are good, reliable and will run forever.
@robd8577
@robd8577 2 күн бұрын
What's so operated about seiko movements, like exactly? As for using a 3 series as an example of quality and reliability is very flawed.
@nbcuni
@nbcuni 2 күн бұрын
And their price points post COVID are LAUGHABLE.
@stevehenrytagami4709
@stevehenrytagami4709 2 күн бұрын
You need to compare a Seiko at the same price as a BB I have a high end Seiko that has on the fly , titanium , zaratzu, Springdrive and infinity better design at less cost than your BB You may prefer your BB but the design is different and accuracy is 20 times worse There are pros and cons to every watch , a matter of different taste but compare in the same price range please Enjoy your watch it is a banger and would buy if it were bigger
@Luke-w5q
@Luke-w5q 2 күн бұрын
That's a good looking piece of jewelry, but not really a watch. Unless you're ok with plus minus one minute a day random accuracy. SPB143 was my last attempt of this Seiko lineup and I'm definitely done.
@tomislavm2873
@tomislavm2873 2 күн бұрын
6r55 is far better in the acc department than 6r35.
@PhenomPage
@PhenomPage 2 күн бұрын
i have the SPB 147 and never have any issue with the 6R35...
@garylangford6755
@garylangford6755 2 күн бұрын
Seiko is a rip off brand. That end link fitment is not good. I can see the spring bars through the gaps.
@LyricFaith-v3u
@LyricFaith-v3u Күн бұрын
SEIKO beats all watches
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