Sekiro: The Best Game No One Talks About Anymore

[@ZeroLenny]

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[@darklegionnaire8304]

its boring and i dont need a grapple outside just cause

[@K0NFZ3D]

That's a lie. It's all over the reddit gaming subs.

[@MainManJaggi]

​@@K0NFZ3D Just let our boy get paid, dude.

[@LeGabrielMan]

Lenny you made me play dark souls 2, its now my favourite. I now live in an Asylum

[@ghostdude7448]

So basically people don't play this game because their attention span is two small

[@OkayAlright]

I love having no stamina and being able to zoom like a monkey and I love how fast paced the combat feels

[@gabrieldavila5765]

I think the plat trophy is enough motive to play

[@mike902]

​@@souju7317 I wouldn't be able to hit it at 666 either

[@dark12ain]

See, i didn't know this about the game, If this is true, then I'm instantly buying it! no stamina? Really

[@John-996]

That is Why I love Sekrio and Bloodbourne.

[@andrei-cezarbleaje5519]

​@@dark12ain Yes , in Sekiro as long as you parry your posture bar will never break .

[@austinhoward9052]

That bit about how attack patterns stick with you forever is so true. I replayed Sekiro recently after not touching it for like 3 years, and I was still getting every boss on my first or second try. Kind of a shame, honestly, because one of my favorite memories is how much I struggled with Isshin on my first playthrough. I gave him a couple hours every night for a week. Then on Friday I sat down, said "Either you break or I do," then gamed for 6 hours straight and finally got him. Beating him first try all these years later was a real "Huh" moment.

[@thisisfyne]

Same here my dude. Sekiro was my first FromSoft game, I used to be more of a casual player, so needless to say it was quite the challenge. Beating Isshin took me like 3 days, and when I finally did I was kneeling on the floor, ecstatic, my hands shaking, finally able to say I had done it. Truly an amazing experience that I don't think I'll ever experience again with another game. Sure, Malenia and Sister Friede are crazy hard challenges too, but Sekiro is just.. too unique and great. You can't rely on levels or stronger weapons. YOU, the player, have to overcome it.

[@hulabulia1329]

@Radigan you're sad

[@jettisonantics]

But then you get to feel awesome speeding through bosses, or figuring out ways to omptimize or experiment with the different tools

[@leithaziz2716]

You could go for Charmless or Demon Bell for a higher challenge. I tried Charmless recently and it feels like I'm learning the game all over again.

[@gyrozeppeli00]

return the charm and dont upgrade your hp, kekw

[@abeidiot]

there's nothing wrong with a game being a bit less replayable but being an absolutely excellent experience anyways

[@mohammadsaleem5990]

Funnily enough, it's my most replayed fromsoftware game. The combat is just that good.

[@calvinwithak7514]

@@mohammadsaleem5990 Same, doing the same thing over and over and over literally just never gets old to me when it comes to sekiro because the combat is just that refined

[@Red-nl4lk]

Only a minute into the video but is sekiro conceived as less repayable? In my opinion the game is the most repayable and only gets better I ng+ and on.

[@GodJack2099]

@@Red-nl4lk it’s less replayable for me due to lack of different weapons armors and so on. Still a amazing game though

[@Red-nl4lk]

@wessonrm1194 wrote a comment for it which you can probably see in Newest. But for me that laser tight focus is what makes it prone for new playthroughs from me. Just using all of my skills and tools on ng+ runs and getting better and better, doubling down on perfection. It's dopamine to my brain. Also helps that I feel like it has the best main bosses.

[@lukew6725]

Finally finished this game after almost 2 years and a complete restart, and I think it's the single best game that Fromsoft has ever put out. Please make a sequel.

[@JetstreamDragon31]

I can recommend Star Wars Jedi

[@francismakoni1526]

⁠@@JetstreamDragon31despite having more than a few similarities in the combat department….. I don’t know. Fallen order felt like a “lesser sekiro” whenever I tried to compare the two. Granted sekiro is a high enough bar to meet, but fallen order felt a little off in a couple of ways for me. Of course it’s a game I’d recommend for a sekiro fan but with measured expectations

[@Jz-vz8ky]

don't compare it, just enjoy it for what it is @@francismakoni1526

[@TheIardis]

I would second both the recommendation and your reply to it. I feel it is similar in many ways but falls short to it. Meaning, if you love Sekiro you will probably like, but not love, Fallen Order. :) @@francismakoni1526

[@Afflictamine]

it really is the best From Soft game, I think the fact that it has no multiplayer or DLC helps it stand out as a single player game as well. you can't summon anyone, can't summon NPCs or Ash summons. they don't need to try scale things to be balanced for PVP either. just pure 1v1 you and the boss. unlimited stamina, jump attacks, grapple to get around. truly 10/10

[@PrideOnInsightGamer]

I think the biggest mistake someone can make in regards to Sekiro is calling it a 'Souls' game. Sekiro is an Action game first and foremost with only superficial ties to said 'Souls' games for reasons that Lenny has addressed. Sekiro is it's own entity. Let's treat it as such.

[@catholicsagainstvaccines4081]

if or when the leaked spell based action game from is supposedly making gets released I feel that people will look back at sekiro and start separating it from souls. From looks to be trying to widen the gameplay its titles after having a decade long souls streak and I hope these games will start being considered their own thing by everyone

[@Thatonedude227]

I would call Sekiro more of a souls-like than a full on souls game. The combat is super different but the level design and design philosophy in general it is very souls-y.

[@ThomasVvV]

Its clearly a Soulslike, just with way less features.

[@jarlbalgruuf2415]

Yeah man the combat in Sekiro totally doesn't consist of blocking, dodging, waiting for or making openings, some sort of healing flask device, really nothing at all reminiscent of any dark souls game.

[@ZeroLenny]

Yeah I do agree 100%. Please understand any sort of Souls comparisons I'm making here is in the interest of trying to answer the question of this video rather than actual reviewing.

[@EpicGamer2k12]

Bro Sekiro is honestly one of my favourite games, literally play it at least once a year, it's one of the games I go back to play when I'm bored, the combat is just so satisfying

[@koLdZ1]

Yeah, at first it's punishing as hell but when you really git gud, it makes you feel like an absolute unit of an anime protagonist

[@vengefulship136]

Only once a year? Rookie numbers

[@helter1234]

In my mind and heart Sekrio is From’s best game.

[@urmomizhere]

Would be replayable if it wasnt so easy

[@cloudshad0ws]

The feeling you get when it "clicks" and you get the timing down of a boss's attacks and beat them is second to none. It's unmatched

[@njames69]

“Hesitation is defeat” the beauty of Sekiro summed up in one quote. An old proverb with no single exact source, it basically means “if you want to win in anything, you have to go all out and give yourself completely to the task”. Interpret however you want but it’s still a dope quote regardless.

[@twoshu8940]

Isshin says this to you

[@Hardcoregamer9]

Ah the meaning is so powerful it's better than say get good instead

[@MrTrueCaller619]

Rushing in is also a DEFEAT .

[@ИмяФамилия-о6л5б]

Hesitation is defeat, but spam is victory. Cool bro! Four phase boss is not enough. Miyadzaki please give us 3 bosses in a row with full respawn. That will be a great game. Hmm... Actually he does. Play in tournament.

[@bossofthisgym4596]

​@@ИмяФамилия-о6л5б spam is not a victory tho, all sekiro bosses has ultraplot that sekiro can't break after 2-3 attacks

[@reecetheobald3474]

I'm on NG+12. Sekiro is the only game i've ever played where the longer i played it, the less bored i was. The better you get at this game, the more fun and more satisfying it becomes.

[@joesheridan9451]

I don’t understand this because the skill ceiling is not that high and it’s pretty basic combat system at the end of the day

[@johng53]

@@joesheridan9451😂😂

[@BrokenTooth]

@@joesheridan9451 Well, in my experience at least, Sekiro is a pursuit of perfection sort of game. Mastering it is basically you embarking on a journey to perfection. This basically means getting to a point where you can flawless every single boss fight in the game consistently. And to me, that journey was never stale. I started my first playthrough, struggled through it, and still learned to appreciate it. I then had an easier time till NG+4 where I focused on getting all the achievements for the game. At this point, I was still learning, and nowhere close to that perfection mark. NG+5, I did a bell demon+charmless run with all bosses and minibosses, and it was brutally difficult, almost like I was playing the game for the first time again. But I persevered through it. Then, I managed to easily do a deathless run Immortal severance ending for NG+6. And then NG+7, I did a charmless all bosses and mini bosses, with no revive run. And after completing that, I came ever so close to that perfection milestone. And then, not too long after that, I completed Mortal Journey bell demon + charmless. And now I just go back and fight the bosses when I'm bored. I pursued perfection and I reached it, and there are very few games like Sekiro that revolve around it.

[@joesheridan9451]

@@BrokenTooth Yeah but that's what I don't get... Pursuing mastery or perfection of this game is not that hard because there is so little to it. Compared to something like DMC which skill ceiling is almost limitless when you look at people like donguri. Sekiro is just vastly overrated to me

[@aguywithgames3135]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@joesheridan9451Sorry to butt in, but I think that’s why it works so well for Sekiro, because there’s only a few things to perfect, it’s much more desirable to do then the likes of DMC, where the definition of perfection can wildly vary.

[@barchen3772]

Serkio is the one game that gave me the "playing my first souls game" vibes back again. A feeling that I thought i'd never have again. It's so unique comapered the the other Fromsoft games and a true treasure

[@cloudshad0ws]

Sekiro was the first souls game that clicked with me. I had played some of the first Dark Souls, and a little bit of Bloodborne, but I just didn't get it. Sekiro got under my skin and into my blood. After I started, I didn't play anything else until I finished it. Since then, I've gone back to From's other games and have enjoyed them to various degrees, but Sekiro will always have a special place in my heart.

[@Red-nl4lk]

Same. Felt like a whole new learning curve.

[@Krystalmyth]

Bloodborne did that for me,. :)

[@MrMetalhorse]

Yes dude! That's why I couldn't get into elden ring. There's nothing surprising about it. Nothing new. It's the same concepts from the DS trilogy but way worse and more predictable.

[@TheAluvisify]

Bloodborne definitely did that to me. Gascoigne absolutely fucks your shit up if you try to approach him like any other DS bosses (which most people did). I think I played a little "too much" of Bloodborne because Sekiro kind of naturally clicked for me.

[@Rattlehead62]

it’s a real shame this game never got a dlc, I’m hoping for a possible sequel to explain some more of the lore.

[@leithaziz2716]

If it ever got an DLC, it would have likely revolved around Tomoe. Isshin metions her in his conversations, she taught Genichiro his lightning techniques and assisted a relative of Kuro in trying to sever their immortality.

[@ghosty24601]

@@leithaziz2716 that would be such a sick DLC i would love that

[@patrickmorrey8722]

@@leithaziz2716 I don't know if this is true but I've heard that Melania borrows a few moves from a planned Tomoe dlc. Which seems accurate as her waterfowl dance immediately made me think of Isshin's one mind move

[@leithaziz2716]

@@patrickmorrey8722 The move you're likely thinking of is "Spiral Cloud Passage" which is one of the techniques you can use in the upgrade menu. I wouldn't be surprised if Malenia was meant to be a Sekiro boss early in development (or even just straight up Tomoe). Her fight as well as Waterfowl Dance in general would be a lot fairer and nuanced in a game with Sekiro's deflecting.

[@realgamer2.0]

@@patrickmorrey8722 or spiral cloud passage if you unlocked it with that pricey 9 skill points

[@_Raygion_]

Glad to see that even Lenny couldn’t beat the mist noble. Makes sense since he’s the hardest boss in the game

[@cloudshad0ws]

I had to google the name because it didn't ring a bell... I don't remember having trouble with that boss at all. Demon of Hatred probably gave me the most trouble. And, of course, Isshin.

[@blacklightvirus6101]

​​@@cloudshad0ws think it's a joke cuss mist nobel is the only boss you literally have to try and die to in order to ever loose lol

[@_Raygion_]

@@blacklightvirus6101 indeed it is. Didn’t think someone would take this seriously. Lmao

[@Twenteen2]

@@cloudshad0ws hard woosh

[@excalibur2596]

​@@cloudshad0ws you probably killed mist noble with cheats then.

[@xTheMLPGodx]

so to expand on a point you made in the beginning, i think a big reason sekiro doesn't get recommended much to new souls fans is because of just how different the combat mechanics are. if someone says "i liked elden ring, what other fromsoft games have that playstyle?" sekiro will just never be the answer, because it's just not a souls game

[@LowKeyDokiDoki]

I do think the fact that sekiro requires that perfect but shorter performance is why people don't recommend it. Especially with how much more punishing death is in Sekiro. Punishing to a new player*** I guess I should clarify because I can agree that once you know what to do, it's a LOT less punishing than other souls games.

[@ToliG123]

Idk man it's definitely not as cruel as Demon Souls or DS2 imo. Maybe I'm bias. This game is perfect for those of us who love it. I haven't played it in years, but man, it's easily one of my favorite games ever. I think people forget games shouldn't be a service. Just because you love a book or a movie, wont mean you should consume it religiously.

[@ZeroLenny]

It's a point I love bringing up. For some like me it makes you feel like an absolute God. For others it chokes out any sort of fun.

[@poutineausyropderable7108]

While death happens often, You have a resurrection. And true death is the only cause of Rot. Rot only stops NPc quest, not their useful interactions. True death isn't that punishing because run backs are really short. Yeah, you lose sen and xp. But you can't go back in level. Just use your sen and buy sacks at every merchant. You only have to love mashing your head against the wall with no bullshit at all. (Well, Headless is bs). Personally, i have played the game arround 15 times. Beaten the boss 500 times and done modded boss and challenge runs, so I might be biased. But on my first playthrough, I absolutely laughed and love each of my 417 deaths.

[@anametoignore2286]

​@ZeroLenny I think I partially bounced off the game because I didn't get that, I know I beat that old lady boss and got a ways further into the game but I'm pretty sure I drained her health and most of the bosses I beat. I think Sekiro doesn't totally fit Souls players like me that like to back up and catch a bosses opening when they're put on the back foot. I think I quit around the ape when I lost the resources to do the optional boss nearby

[@koLdZ1]

​@@poutineausyropderable7108 Headless and Snake Eyes can go suck it. I swear, the first time I actually raged at a game was when Snake Eyes merc'd me for the dozenth time.

[@BigMac87963]

Lenny just wanted to say thank you for the DS3 broken sword tutorial video. I actually completed the challenge because of it, and it was easily the most fun I’ve had in a challenge run

[@ZeroLenny]

The DS3 broken sword is my favourite. Ds2 is way easier than you think and Ds1 is a bit of a slog. Glad you enjoyed it!!!

[@antonirantoni4412]

Same thing for me thank you lenny

[@oliversmith1110]

Sekiro is probably my favourite FS game. The feel of the battle as rhythm, the sheer ecstasy of a 100% parried boss fight and the smooth dance with your enemy. The beautiful world and detailed, imaginative, complex story combined with so many custom weapons, skills, and even endings just make the experience so intense and rewarding.

[@ReadyF0RHeady]

Which custom weapons? You only get the arm stuff as secondary weapon besides only katana and the sword of immortality

[@AaronBiswas]

​@@ReadyF0RHeadyI think he means the prosthetic tools.

[@Postpar]

reason Sekiro is less talkled about and played is simply because its not an RPG. You don't get to build your character with all sorts of different play styles. Its an action game with difficult combat.

[@Yuuni_Shiroza]

"hesitation is defeat" phrase hits me so hard It left a scar on my soul. not just for the game but in real life. Where me as an Anxious person. I always hears that phrase and it is enough for me to overcome my anxiety. One of the greatest souls game hands down

[@derek96720]

I really love how Sekiro "deprograms" us as gamers who are used to being cautious and strategic. Instead it forces us to be hyper-aggressive from the very beginning, giving the enemy no room to breathe, no time to heal. Sometimes the best defense is to use an amazing offense.

[@CyborgSelZero]

​@@derek96720 Which is the exact reason why I could never get into the game. Being defensive and cautious is my whole playstyle. I prefer to sit back and carefully study movesets until I find a weakness within it. Sekiro didn't allow for that. But that's okay, not every game has to fit my playstyle.

[@krejziks3398]

@@CyborgSelZero haha, we are the exact opposites, i aced sekiro many playthroughs and for me it is the best game ever, but on the other hand i hate souls games because they are slow and defensive games... Elden ring on the other hand gave me another opportunity again to play a bit aggressively and stick to it.

[@300sekkq]

so fucking cringe

[@CyborgSelZero]

@@krejziks3398 Well in my case I'm also suffering from fatigue from these games. After playing and beating all three Dark Souls games, both The Surge games, both Nioh games, both Remnant games, Hellpoint and playing hundreds of levels in N++, I'm no longer motivated to torture myself in these games. Probably the biggest reason why I left Sekiro that early.

[@AspenBrightsoul]

I can't wait for Little Aggy to @ you so hard.

[@rhemie2114]

Petit Agward

[@ZeroLenny]

Why? :---( I don't watch the guy so I just wanna know xx

[@koLdZ1]

​@@ZeroLenny one of the best Sekiro players and speed runners. Held a lot of WRs over the years and did a lot of challenges for the games, same as you with the other Soulsborne games

[@mac_edmarco]

@@ZeroLenny I don’t think it would be malicious! He’s just a massive sekiro speedrunner! It’d probably be a joke, he’s nice :p

[@koLdZ1]

​@@ZeroLenny he also beat the game blindfolded, got that rhythm down pat lol

[@Alexander-wk4gl]

I play sekiro once a year. Love the game. Truly a timeless masterpiece.

[@linksgruenversifft2133]

Same here! Every summer i start a playthrough :)

[@funeralfart7582]

Yeah, I disagree with the statement in the video that sekiro lacks replay value. I've played through close to 10 times. I do agree that it's way harder your first playthrough. Mine took weeks, second playthrough took hours. The option to penalize yourself for missing the deflect (going charmless) is what keeps it interesting.

[@nitish5636]

Same here love it forever

[@friedchicken]

Sekiro, game play twice.

[@reznik232]

From's best game by miles!

[@Dustinthewind03]

Possibly also people don’t play it anymore because the dog gone game is nearly 5 years old and it’s still $30 ON SALE. Come on Fromsoft. Quit being so greedy still and knock it down to 20 when it’s on sale.

[@tyler547]

Sekiro is the most replayable for me. It’s so fun seeing your hard work pay off and breezing through the game is incredibly fun. It also makes the story better because wolf is meant to be a badass shinobi, not someone who dies all the time.

[@memphislabore607]

I am doing a second playthrough but without kuros charm so i have to get the perfect parries otherwise i take chip damage which adds up in later fights and it helps keep that challenge going

[@icebox1954]

@@memphislabore607 Be sure to get the demon bell debuff also. I had both on vs Isshin and it was great.

[@OhNoJoshEdits]

*Marked 4 weeks ago from today. Last comment _4 days ago._ I’ll say this boys, you can only play Sekiro one way and no multiplayer. The amount of sh*t you can do with 2 buddies in DS 1, DS3 and Elden will give you memories of a lifetime. Teaming up on bosses, finding sick gear and getting invaded by ppl wearing whatever tf they’re wearing leading to a multi freak battle with ppl fat rolling all around the place leads to amazing online moments you can’t do with Sekiro. You’re all entitled to your opinions, not trying to knock you guys. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if these comments won’t hold up over time because you guys won’t get the same joy out of playing Sekiro for the 1000th time *the exact same way* like 6 years from now. If you still feel that way about Sekiro, that’s awesome! But again wouldn’t surprise me if you find yourselves thinking “I could play Sekiro again.. or I could try a new run on Whatever Souls and attempt a dagger only build or something. You kinda need _a bit_ more than solid combat to keep players coming back again and again. Fashion Souls alone is its own community lol

[@icebox1954]

@@OhNoJoshEdits Teaming up is for weakling cowards and usually when I invade the host is incompetent and wouldn't be able to defeat a Godrick Soldier without help much less a boss. Being carried through the game is as close as most hosts get to actually playing the game, which is about as much as watching a video of someone else playing. I definitely play Sekiro the least but it's still the best game. Elden Ring is based around mediocrity at its core but because it's so mediocre there's a lot of builds you can make. Elden Ring is an inferior product in terms of quality and it's not even close but its mediocre quality is also what lets it have a big quantity. Elden Ring also has PvP. If it were up to me when it comes to PvP in From games summoning wouldn't be possible for bosses and there should be as many invaders as summons for the host.

[@OhNoJoshEdits]

@@icebox1954 okay well I’m happy your a complete FromSoft Chad lol we should all aspire to be as good at Soulsborne games as you. After slaying bosses, I bet you slay mad pussy too. I mean I personally used to blindfold run vanilla DS1 with no armor using only a spoon.. but then I took the training wheels off. But I don’t think that makes me better than ppl. Cuz I’m not 15. Lol

[@astaroth2454]

I replayed this game recently and got all the endings I didn't get the first time when it came out. The game is soo fucking good and additive. I swear fighting any version of either genichiro or ishin is better than any drug

[@CrackdanieIs]

Sekiro gets better every time I replay it. Countless times now, can’t get enough of it. Use bell demon or charmless to make it more interesting. Wolf might not really level up, but you sure do.

[@Sandlund93]

Yeah, even after 9 playthroughs it's the only game, out of more than 50 over the years, that I really wanna return to. I still haven't beaten Mortal Journey and no charm+bell makes it even more brutal. I would argue that other soulslike have less replayability, because they are just dodge simulators with R1 spam at the end of the day. It gets old very quickly.

[@wolftales5203]

Its not that deep lmao. You arent becoming a better person or indeed better at anything. Its just an edgy videogame

[@CrackdanieIs]

wrong. i have ascended to sainthood @@wolftales5203

[@Sandlund93]

@@wolftales5203 So if you get better at Sekiro you don't get better at anything? Surely you get better at Sekiro if you get better at Sekiro. Just because it means nothing to you, it doesn't mean that it means nothing to everybody. I actually beat Mortal Journey now and it inspired me to push myself with no charm+bell, at least in NG+. I went on to complete playthrough 10 no charm+bell, something I wouldn't even have dreamed of when I first platinumed it in 2020. I have now beaten the game 27 times in total and I still might return for more in the future.

[@wolftales5203]

@Sandlund93 well, as long as you are enjoying yourself. You could be using that talent to play esports and make money, but you would rather waste it on a single player game largely no one cares about. Dont squander your gift, pick up Cod, use the mental and emotional skillsets you have that allowed you to beat sekiro 27 times, and now apply that that to somewhere where it could actually change your life. Esports is the same thing, just mastering some knowledge. Sekiro should only be the gateway to esports and little else

[@andres201292]

I feel Sekiro mastered the "less is more", compared to other souls you don't have a variety of weapons yes, but you don't need them, the game is more linear than other souls because it has only one purpose, to complete the journey and feel great to have completed the challenge and the journey. And also, Sekiro fucking trains you to make other souls a cakewalk, what you learn in Sekiro you can replicate in a certain way in other souls and you will be a demon.

[@johnysimps1191]

Make no mistake. No one has forgotten this game. You just can't redirect a dark souls/elden ring player to this game with certainty that they will enjoy it. Sekiro is simply a different beast.

[@grimreefer213]

Exactly, there is still a relatively small but dedicated playerbase, and there’s new players picking up the game all the time, I see them in the subreddit talking about their first time experience. I will never forget Sekiro, and I will continue to replay it periodically probably until the end of time unless they make a Sekiro 2 or spiritual successor

[@bbbbbbb51]

​@@grimreefer213checking steamcharts tells you much the same. Plenty of players are still returning and discovering this gem. Me and a friend still both playthrough it 2x a year at minimum. Once you've had your first clear, you can easily run through it in a weekend if you clear your schedule and don't do it all in one go. I've finished it upwards of 7 times now and have realized a new mechanic I've missed every single time. It's easy to just play it normally and not use all the tools at your disposal, but when you do it feels even more grounded. I didn't realize you could throw ceramic shards at enemies who are in the air to knock them to the ground til my most recent playthrough. I also somehow missed that you can infuse your sword with flame after using flame vent for a handful of playthrough too.

[@lorenonanesterium7747]

Yep. I just picked it up during steam summer sale. It is absolutely awesome. The world feels more alive and I feel way cooler to deflect than to roll around like a maniac. Genishiro was the boss with whom I learned the game. I recently killed the ape duo in 3 tries because I knew there movement so well (I was stuck for bearly 3h at the guarfian ape). I look forward to continue this game.

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

I don't know, if you ask me, Sekiro and Elden Ring make many of the same mistakes...

[@therook6198]

@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoonelaborate.

[@Arexion5293]

You need 2 playthroughs to unlock all gauntlets, not 3. You can do the extra boss ending questlines in any normal playthrough as at the end the game lets you choose which of the ending key items you will use. Meanwhile Shura ending cuts the game short and has a unique final boss, so that ending still needs to be done either first or later. Basically as long as you do Lady Butterfly, Both Isshins, Owl (Father) and Demon of Hatred, you unlock all gauntlets.

[@BurstVessels]

Yeah, that was a small mistake on Lenny's part, presumably he was thinking of how you need 3 playthroughs to plat the game/get all prosthesis upgrades + Shura ending.

[@hOFalt]

I knew it, I was so confused when he mentioned that, because I was sure I didn't play more than one NG+ Turns out I dodged a bullet by doing owl (father) on my first challenge run

[@TheF4talgamer]

@@BurstVessels Without save states you need 4 playthroughs to plat the game With save states you only need one

[@dominicmedina7755]

Interesting

[@BurstVessels]

@@TheF4talgamer iirc even if you roll back save states to get all endings in one playthrough, in order to plat the game you would still need to play at least to NG+ to get all the prosthetic upgrades, since there isn't enough Lapis Lazuli to upgrade everything without going to NG+.

[@brutaljustin1349]

About the replayability and only having one weapon, you're forgetting about the 9 different prosthetic side weapons and all the different combat arts you can try. You can try different combinations of arts and gadgets and attempt to learn ones you're not familar with. I did a playthrough utilizing only the mist raven gadget which I had never used before.

[@ggwp638BC]

Tbf changing prosthetic and combat arts is not as different than changing builds in the Souls series. Specially because even then, 90% of the time you're still relying on your blade.

[@Twenteen2]

@@ggwp638BC youd be surprised at how much better switching up your abilities can make the fights. experimenting adds heaps more fun to the game

[@ggwp638BC]

@@Twenteen2 I'm speaking in relation to Souls. Yes, Sekiro has plenty of variety, but it's not close to Elden Ring/Bloodborn/DS3

[@karenamyx2205]

I always use a katana in souls anyways so it works for me.

[@karenamyx2205]

@@ggwp638BC I think hes talking about how certain bosses that absolutely destroy you, can be whooped with certain prosthetics. Baboon and firecrackers come to mind, but it's like the most simple basic example.

[@ebayaccount675]

I think it's because people can't git gud.

[@stevejonesll1399]

No I think it's because they have jobs, everything is so expensive, being a sweaty gamer in your mom's basement is kinda out of the question

[@ebayaccount675]

@stevejonesll1399 It's called good genetics. I'm sigma your beta af

[@ebayaccount675]

@@stevejonesll1399 Read that son

[@stevejonesll1399]

@ebayaccount675 dude your like 14 don't call me son, have some respect for your elders, and tell your mother I said, " I told you so"

[@ebayaccount675]

@@stevejonesll1399 Respect deez nuts & tell your mother I said im disappointed in my step son for not gitting gud.

[@grizzlywhisker]

I absolutely love this game. I have reinstalled it and played it all the way through a couple more times since it first came out and it never disappoints. I'll never forget the first time I took down Genichiro (without realizing I could explore and find more prayer beads) and feeling like I finally comprehended the parry mechanics and the flow of Sekiro's combat. It gave me a huge adrenaline rush. As a veteran of FromSoft action/RPGs, it felt like they intentionally designed this game to punish players who had already mastered the dodge roll mechanic of Demon's/Dark Souls (as well as Bloodborne's dash) and forced you to hold your ground and learn to deflect/parry each enemy. It totally changed the playstyle for me and started to feel like a rhythm game where I was essentially engaging in a form of dance with each enemy/boss encounter. I LOVE Elden Ring, but I hope they try some more new stuff in their next game like they did with Sekiro.

[@trentfannin8849]

Fuckin based

[@karlklein2263]

I find sekiro to be the most replayable fromsoft game. Its challenge isnt mutable like the other games, you have to actually try and practice to do well, but there is so much fun in mastering its combat. By the time you're really good, wolf starts to feel like the boss and not the enemy

[@stevemarston2936]

Sekiro is the only FromSoft game where I've even attempted no-hit runs against bosses. I'm happy to say I've been successful against almost half of them so far.

[@TinMan445]

Yea after that first play through killing sword saint ishin, you really do have a moment of “I’m the boss now genichiro!” Haha

[@nuclearscarab]

I would say my second Sekiro play through was more unique to the first than switching from heavy to light sword or something like that in Elden Ring. In Sekiro you are constantly improving and finding openings in enemies as you fight them. In other souls games, you are mostly just perfecting your dodge timings.

[@onleynin]

we found the rust programmer

[@_CrimsonBlade]

Elden ring fan boys can play sekiro because it isn’t as easy as elden ring

[@NerdFiction]

Lenny I can never stop playing sekiro. It's by far my favourite game ever made.

[@vcy96]

I totally feel your point on the replayability thing which is why I never bothered going into NG+. After years of jumping around in Elden Ring, the Dark Souls trilogy and Bloodborne, I'm only left with fragments of memories with how I played through Sekiro but the pure feel, flow, and incredible spectacle of the combat itself always kept me thinking about it all these years. I've forgotten all the locations and forgotten most enemies but I've most definitely forgotten all their movesets. I can and am ready to experience Sekiro again. Hesitation Is Defeat, boys. Wish me luck.

[@TheCozyBearGamer]

I'll never understand why replayability is considered so important to a game's quality. Some of my favorite games of all time have literally no replayability (Outer Wilds (outside of getting the surprirsingly creative trophies, Return of the Obra Dinn, Ghost Trick) There's nothing wrong with a one and done experience. But that's just my opinion. There's nothing wrong with a game having replayability, (I've done like 8 runs of Elden Ring, including a Spongebob run where I can only use bubble spells and the jellyfish summon and a Wolverine run where I can only use the claws and passive regen but no flasks. But I only did Sekiro 2 times, once for my blind playthrough, and once for trophy cleanup using a save backup to get the Shura ending and then keep going. And I'm fully satisfied. TL;DR: Lack of replayability is not a detriment to a game and can even improve it.

[@DemonLordRaiden]

I think it's more a value per dollar thing. Obra Dinn, for example, is $20 for approx. 5 hours of gameplay, whereas Sekiro is $60 for approx. 30 hours. You're literally getting more value per dollar in Sekrio, but Obra Dinn is 1/3 the price, so it doesn't feel as bad to have a shorter or a one-off experience. Now obviously that doesn't bother everyone, I'd wager it's closer to a 50/50, but it is a fair concert given economic instability these days.

[@TommasoFirmini]

I actually finished my 4th run and got the platinum for sekiro last week. Such a great game

[@noahherbert8347]

I did the same recently too. Grinding those final skill points was tough though.

[@mattew0113]

This was the first souls game i did the platinum for too. It’s also the first one i ever bothered with a NG+ run of

[@TommasoFirmini]

@@noahherbert8347 yeah same, last 2 trophies were all skills and a final ending. Felt better to grind out the 9 points and then get plat on the ending. Would've been discouraging to end on a 2 hour grind lol

[@noahherbert8347]

@@mattew0113 Yeah I don't usually do NG+ in soulslike games but it seemed easier to get the 100% achievements in subsequent NG+'s. Elden Ring's plat is worth going for its even easier than Sekiro. The other games in the series seem like hell for achievements though don't think I will ever bother with 100%ing the rest.

[@beelow84]

It’s the linearity that makes it easier to replay. Well That and the swordplay. Best souls game hands down.

[@NotoriousDaddle]

8:30 breaks down how I played this. I literally made up drum beats during boss fights and when the combo started I would sing the beat like a song lol

[@junoquat582]

I'm one of those massive-cocked fools that went through and played the game multiple times. I did it in order to get all of the endings and fight every boss. I wanted to get all the achievements from a game I learned to love so much. I truly wish they would make another one. Sekiro is the best FromSoft game imo, and has the best, most tightly designed combat in any game I've ever played.

[@katxiii3660]

I was pretty late to this game and only recently beat it for the first time, and am currently in the process of getting all the endings. Subsequent playthroughs are definitely less fun in terms of challenge, but damn is it fun to slap the shit out of that one boss you got stuck on first time. Inner Genichiro was also fun as hell. Can't wait to get to the other inner bosses. I really enjoyed Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order before I played Sekiro. That parrying style of combat just appeals much more to me than the Dark Souls roll. Even in Monster Hunter, my favorite weapons are lance, longsword and chargeblade, because they give so much opportunity for continuing your attack while dodging/blocking at the same time. If they ever make another Sekiro-like game, I'll play the shit out of it.

[@senseinuuh]

massive cocked:D is that really how you say it

[@mh_golfer]

Even if it isn't a sequel, would love something with a similar combat system. I never played a Souls game before and got lucky to stumble onto Sekiro after playing Fallen Order and searching for games similar to it. Been hooked since.

[@kaden-sd6vb]

​@@mh_golferLies of P is kind of a mix between the combat styles of sekiro and bloodborne(though the parry timing differs slightly from sekiro, according to people complaining about it for some reason)

[@bobafeet1234]

Sekiro is a very unique game, in that it DEMANDS that you lean how to play it as the developers intended. No shortcuts or getting overpowered in the first stages of the game. The sword combat either "clicks" with you or it leaves you behind, no in between. It's as much about defense as it is about spamming the slash button... you won't get far by just attacking. It's brutally unforgiving, and I loved it for that reason.

[@grandmascreampie5372]

technically you can beat the game without ever parrying or blocking. Baron's Castle did a thrusting attack only run.

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

@@grandmascreampie5372 Yeah you can beat it as the devs didn't intend you to, but doing so still requires a lot of skill to pull off. There is no skills to dump points into. Instead, the in-game currency unlocks new abilities and combos that still require skill to utilize.

[@tanelviil9149]

lol nothing but a 22 min long video from a fanboy who knows that the game has issues and is actually boring once you master the rhythm, but still tries to argue " bro its still a good game play it " lol nah, people don't want to... people play elden Ring, Lies of P, Lord of fallen .... just move on, Sekiro is done its over :D Don't be autistic, stop clinging to one thing for the rest of your life....experience change you fossil.

[@luckerooni1153]

I don't know about that. You can get pretty far while basically not respecting deflecting or any of the mechanics that you eventually realize completely control the pace of battle if you get good at them. Of course you will get shit on eventually, but I never felt the brick wall so much as a feeling that the enemies were just getting way more limited in terms of being exposed to damage, and the game naturally compelled me to be a bit more desperate to use the advanced moves over time even though I wasn't in the first half of the game very much, and by the time I climbed to the top of the tower, I'd just barely gotten the hang of consistently deflecting multi hit combos while properly mixing in the correct response to the heavy moves.

[@toreole5831]

Its exactly what a fantasy sword fighting should be. You get stabbed bad - you die. It is that simple

[@crocopsleg3523]

I don’t think it’s under talked about. It’s a masterpiece that is extremely loved.

[@judahforshey1865]

It's got a cult following for sure, but it isn't nearly as widespread as the dark souls trilogy or elden ring.

[@leithaziz2716]

@@judahforshey1865 Doesn't have to be a bad thing. Not every game needs to aim for the stars in appeal. For the people who liked what it's about, they tend to enjoy it very much.

[@judahforshey1865]

@@leithaziz2716 never said it was a bad thing, it's a great game, just not for everyone

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

If you enjoy using one weapon and one mechanic for the whole game then sure, it's fucking awesome. It would be a hit in the 90s.

[@jarlbalgruuf2415]

@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 the 90s was awesome I agree

[@justanotheruser7843]

The best thing on the rythm aspect of sekiro is that the bosses hit in sync with their themes. So you don't really need to memorise those rythms, you should feel it. Also, replaying the sekiro is a really rewarding power fantasy thing. By now you know how to beat them. And you are beating them with close to none effort. And that feels absolutely fabulous

[@TheDuckPortal]

Holy shit is this true? Looks like I'll be downloading sekiro again...

[@rickhapstley3866]

@@TheDuckPortal I haven't played Sekiro yet, but this is actually true for all enemies in Fromsoft games ! I usually count, the attack patterns have a rhythm exactly like music. For exemple, I count Malenia's rapid prosthesis slices as : 1 quarter note for the windup that I count as appogiatura, 3 8th notes for the flurry, and 1 quarter OR an 8th note silence before the final attack. That's a thing I found out on my own as a musician, but I believe someone made a video about that with the dancer from DS III as an exemple.

[@mattisvicious6069]

Lol

[@tanelviil9149]

lol nothing but a 22 min long video from a fanboy who knows that the game has issues and is actually boring once you master the rhythm, but still tries to argue " bro its still a good game play it " lol nah, people don't want to... people play elden Ring, Lies of P, Lord of fallen .... just move on, Sekiro is done its over :D Don't be autistic, stop clinging to one thing for the rest of your life....experience change you fossil.

[@moonman8450]

@@rickhapstley3866probably that Game Theory Video (the dancer one )

[@connorpratt8364]

I know I'm lateposting but- I simply have to disagree with the vast majority. There is a good amount of replayability. For me, I saw my replaying experience as 1st run: Perfection, amazing 2nd: Cathartic Run, 3rd: Wait fuck are things challenging again? 4th onward: Fuck. Things are challenging again. I know that my own experience is not good evidence, but I hope my experience can give insight to those willing to replay.

[@TabletopTitan]

I find myself replaying Sekiro just to experience the fun combat again. The speed and flow is addictive.

[@592Johno]

That's me with DOOM Eternal on nightmare difficulty.

[@vincent4798]

For anyone that wants to enjoy the difficulty of Sekiro after they’re first playthrough, you can do your ng+ charmless or with demon bell or even both if you really want to suffer, I personnaly did both on my ng+ and trust me, it’s like relearning the game

[@ceberu15]

i do you one better, do the same thing but instead of ng+. once you beat the game you can actually do a new game and give Kuro the charm/bell demon "first playtrough" on base attack/vitality and have fun then

[@excalibur2596]

​@@ceberu15 I will do you one better. Charmless and demon bell with base vitality and attack power on ng+7.

[@tattedking9666]

Wooow so cool. You must have a shit load of free time.

[@bbbbbbb51]

​@@tattedking9666this game really brings the salty child out of you, eh?

[@TruthAndReconciliation]

I feel like charmless is how the developers initially intended for the game to function. They probably dialed it back and added charm to make it easier for new players, but charmless makes you REALLY learn the game

[@PandaBearXVI]

Your breakdown of the combat was so spot on. The bit about the "thinly veiled rhythm game" felt accurate as well. I'm a music teacher, and Sekiro's combat clicked with me almost immediately. The bosses that gave me problems were the ones that didn't reward constant parry's (like the Ape and Demon of Hatred). But yeah, I agree, it is a weird game to recommend to people, but I absolutely love it. Great video!

[@Artrysa]

Dark Souls has always been more about timing than reaction. Combo's always have the same rhythm to them.

[@samueldavis5895]

Parries.

[@flamingmanure]

@@Artrysa i mean this does apply to all the games yes, except maybe bloodborne, where its more frantic and mindless in comparison to the others. i found myself just walking up to half the enemies and pressing R1 till they die, the bosses are different story but still, most enemies dont even have poise or anti spam combos and frankly the game's strategy and combat suffers alot for it imo.

[@nickbrackett9023]

2024 I still can't beat this game 😭

[@mikerice868]

It's so sad that people seem to forget about Sekiro, especially since it's what got me into FromSoft games and I also (probably quite biased) think it's the best one. I do have good reason to think so however. I believe that a game can be designed a lot more tightly when it's being designed around only one specific playstyle instead of trying to make many viable. People also complain about the fact that you play as Sekiro/Wolf when in almost all other FromSoft games you play as an unnamed character of your choosing. I love the fact that you get to be a specific character with a backstory and motivations though and his design is really cool so I wouldn't wanna customize it anyway. And finally, people complain that you don't get any new swords or anything, but like that's the coolest part to me. It's not about finding the best sword for the job, it's about the skill of learning how to play it better and better. You don't need a shiny new weapon after every boss if the one you have can kill a boss instantly the moment you stagger them. Such a good, underrated game, man

[@StormCrownSr]

Because Sekiro isn't really a Souls Like. No RPG elements. No stamina system. No invasion/co-op.

[@Evan_Schaefering]

Those things are only secondary to a souls-like game in my opinion. Things like and estus flask style healing item, bonfire styled checkpoints, enemies that only repawn when using said checkpoints, a focus on environmental story telling, high difficulty, a focus on learning enemy patterns, experience points that are lost on death, and level design that inspires exploration while making use of shortcuts are all more important than the things you mentioned in my opinion.

[@andrewbowen2837]

So is Skyrim an souls like then? It has stamina and rpg elements

[@StormCrownSr]

@@andrewbowen2837 With enough mods, yes.

[@StormCrownSr]

@@Evan_Schaefering it's what makes a souls like. The stamina management. The many types of weapons, the online elements. Try finger but hole, and all that.

[@Evan_Schaefering]

@@StormCrownSr There are lots of games with RPG elements, energy management, a large variety of weapons, and online elements so I can't agree with you. Honestly, those things do a much better job defining an MMORPG, like World of Warcraft, than they do Dark Souls. In my opinion, the things I mentioned in my first comment do a much better job at getting to the essence of what Dark Souls is, and Sekiro has all of them.

[@MattApocaalypse]

I happily replayed this game like 5 times to see all the endings. The combat felt satisfying every time. When mechanics feel good i think replays always keep their magic.

[@residentchaotic]

Worst ending is return because I struggled with father at hirata estate revisit

[@linkin7357]

@@residentchaotic bruh, that is severance...

[@linkin7357]

The game has 4 endings.

[@MattApocaalypse]

@@linkin7357 i should have only played it 4 times and uninstalled it 😮

[@residentchaotic]

ooooh shit mb @@linkin7357

[@Dangerous-Doug]

No one plays the game because the satisfaction of obtaining a new weapon and armor or shield is gone. You can't make builds and the game isn't souls according to people, personally I love this game and bought all the souls type games that fromsoftware has except Armored Core 6 but that game will be bought too, my friends don't game it because of the reason I mentioned above apart from the souls type game, sekiro I find to be too easy since the parry mechanic is very broken but nonetheless its an amazing game and we should get a second game.

[@hybrid5860]

I think the main reason people don’t recommend Sekiro is because it has the highest learning curve of the series. It’s also by far the most different gameplay wise. Personally, I go through the boss rush mode every couple months, and ALWAYS lose to the ape duo. But when it comes to individual bosses, I can usually beat them in less than three attempts without prosthetics. I also personally think it’s better than Elden ring. That sword clashing sound effect is just music to my ears

[@rynemcgriffin1752]

Not to mention how drastically different the combat is from the other Soulslikes that came before it. Dark Souls 1 plays similarly to Ds2 as to DS3 as to Bloodborne, sure they might all have minor differences like Ds2 being slower or BB’s rally mechanic but they all fundamentally act like how the game should play. Sekiro is one of the most unique gameplay wise but that also makes it the hardest to master compared to its contemporaries.

[@saftigerkeks5212]

Absolutely! Elden Ring with Sekiros combat would be Paradise!

[@lutherheggs451]

It absolutely doesn't...The game just requires you not hammer on the deflect button..Its a rhythm game the majority of deflects are 1 and 2 and 3 and 4, 1 and 2 and 3 and 4, not just hammer, hammer, hammer, hammer....Its irritating watching crap players have to take 20 minutes to beat a boss because they can't be bothered to learn basic rhythm.

[@wastelandr259]

All the different techniques really stand out to me, and I rarely see people bring them up. Mikiri counter felt like one of the coolest things I'd ever done the first time I landed that badass spear stomp. Lighting counters go so hard too

[@leithaziz2716]

Mikiri Counter was so scary to use at first, but once you understood how it works, it's some of the best feeling of euphoria you can get out of a mechanic. Kudos to the sound design as well. When you screw up or successfully land it, you REALLY feel the impact of the move.

[@cloudshad0ws]

Yeah, I didn't really understand or use mikiri counter for awhile, until the game essentially forced me to get it. But man does it feel great when you pull it off.

[@angusmcarthur7295]

I will die on a hill saying that this is the most perfect game ever made

[@weebanime3415]

I respect your decision but have you heard of WII SPORTS

[@just70hq]

@@weebanime3415 the golf and baseball are jank

[@MementoMori7777]

MGS3 still holds that title to me.

[@fallennarcotic6981]

I played this game like 20 times. Getting better with each playthrough felt awesome! I played it a couple of months ago again and beat Isshin at the first try. Thats when I knew it is time to go on to new things

[@Sandlund93]

Like the Gauntlet with no charm+bell. Especially Mortal Journey, that challenge is insane.

[@TheACTIONZ]

Try the countless mods that make the game harder and add a lot more content. The best is the Resurrection mod

[@richardhernandez9014]

I don't think the role of the powerful story of this game should be downplayed. The epic setting and more open dialogue - when compared to previous FromSoft games - serve to potentially draw a reluctant player in and motivate them to keep playing. I was intrigued by Okami's (Sekiro's) journey and the characters he encountered along the way, and finding out what happened next made me want to push through those tough boss fights. Additionally, in typical FromSoft fashion, the story is not as concrete as a standard video game's might be; with hidden lore tidbits sprinkled throughout the world for one willing to look. This may not be everyone's enjoyment, but I got excited when I would have a new "aha" moment in subsequent playthroughs. That being said, I'm one of those nuts with 600 hours in the game, so what do I know ;)

[@highvoltage7559]

For me the replayvalue came from the boss and enemy designs. Sekiro has easily From's best bosses so far, especially once the final updates dropped, and the game is rather satisfying to play on the highest NG+ cycle without Kuro's charm. It further reinforces that idea of focused play. But you do replay Ashina Castle 3 times every full playthrough, and even redo the early area again too, making the game feel rather short. The combat arts and tools give a bit of variety to the gameplay, the spear being my favourite, but they're still not full on secondary movesets and instead just cool extra moves. That small player moveset does affect the overall replayability too.

[@itsCaptainEli]

I have played Sekiro like 10x, it was even the first from game I platinumed. Every now and then I download it again for a playthrough because nothing else feels like it enough. It's the perfect blend of rhythm and sword duel vibes.

[@steviezurek101]

Try sifu, I was in the same boat until sifu came along and scratched the sekiro itch

[@itsCaptainEli]

@Stevie zurek i played Sifu a bit, also Absolver, but it didn't feel right for me personally. I do wanna give it another crack, though.

[@spiritcat103]

If you can, try Thymesia. It's not quite the same, but it feels very similar to sekiro. I've only played a little and it's making me want to go back to sekiro after a couple years of not playing it

[@itsCaptainEli]

@spiritcat103 that's the plague and crow / raven dude one, right? I keep meaning to grab it.

[@spiritcat103]

@@itsCaptainEli it is indeed

[@lanhouse6300]

Sekiro is not difficult, once you memorize the timing you're good. The problem is that you can't do different builds like others souls games. Sekiro is an action game, not an action rpg game.

[@patriksvensson2360]

Perhaps the lack of variety in character build and multiplayer/PvP options were a part of the reason for players not clinging to Sekiro as they did other FromSoftware games, but I'd like to believe that's intentional. The PvP element _could_ be implemented, had they wanted to, but they chose not to. In my experience, having a seriously deep and engaging solo experience come to a close as the credits start rolling, leaving you both wanting more and feeling proud of what you've accomplished is an incredibly gratifying thing. Sekiro nailed it. If anything, it proves that there's still an insane amount of entertainment value to be found in these kinds of games. Also, to unlock all gauntlets, didn't you just have to defeat all bosses? If so, I believe you can do it with two playthroughs, if you do all the side gigs.

[@jeff3221]

You can unlock all gauntlets with just two playthroughs but I'm willing to bet that the vast majority will need 3. Unless you are following a wiki, most people will get the Severance ending, leaving playthrough 2/3 for the Ashura/True ending.

[@ni3dzwiedz]

I think most ppl use wikis, most popular Elden Ring ending is age of stars@@jeff3221

[@chowdaire7343]

For me personally, this is why sekiro was a one and done game. Loved every second of it, but the reason I kept coming back to DS games and BB is the same reason I endlessly play MH games, build variety. Once you've mastered and beaten the game one way, you can try again with a new set of tools. Sekiro is singularly focused on its game design, and I respect it for that, but it also leaves me satisfied and not longing for more.

[@ducus]

I feel like the reason why most people don't recommend Sekiro to Elden Ring players is because the game is nothing like Elden Ring. There are some similarities, but the game is essentially not even the same genre as Elden Ring. If someone wants more Elden Ring, you'll recommend Souls and Souls-likes, but Sekiro is not really a Souls-like.

[@bleszekd9068]

In my opinion sekiro is the BEST fromsoft game.

[@StarbornWrathZonai]

Wild to me that the game literally says sekiro 400 times and my man still pronounces it wrong

[@ThroneOfSalt]

Honestly one of my favourites of all time, the combat is honestly so addicting and satisfying that I had to get the platinum trophy on ps4 and I can’t deny i enjoyed every hour (that I wasn’t raging from bosses lmao) Edit: should also mention that I never realized you had to unlock the gauntlets that way since I went for the 100% before the gauntlet was added

[@CahanDragon]

You don't have to unlock the gauntlets that way. You just need to kill all bosses. I did Inner bosses after my NG+ run (I was at NG2+). (Return ending and shura ending).

[@thisisfyne]

It's not that people forget that it exists, it's that this one is too different from the other games to recommend it first. Simple as that lmao. And it's definitely replayable. The combat experience alone is unmatched to this day. It's crazy though how the youtube content is fair and nuanced, but if you check the streams Lenny will actively shit on Bloodborne during half the time he's playing it and openly ridicule the lore and those who like it. He doesn't even realize the irony that his ô so beloved Dark Souls is just the same when it comes to worldbuilding and storytelling. This channel is kind of wholesome, yes. But on Twitch? Not always..

[@super_tang0_64]

yeah i know what you mean, i turned off the stream the last time he played BB around the Rom part the guy was just being salty and disingenuous and i never finished the vod

[@Shiratto]

Yeah it is unfortunate when Bloodborne gets boiled down to “Blood nightmare nightmare” when it has themes of the horrors of womanhood, prejudice, the dark nature of humans concealed in righteousness and others while a series that could be just as unjustly boiled down to “fire dark curse” gets praised for the same keyword storytelling FromSoft has been using for over a decade.

[@thisisfyne]

@@Shiratto Exactly! Thank you! imo it's pure hypocrisy to do that for one game and not the others...

[@toaq1964]

Before I watch the video, I think the reason Sekiro isnt as recommended is because there’s very little to differentiate different playthroughs. There’s very little build variety and almost no character customization. At least personally a lot of the appeal in other FS titles is being able to create new charters and builds whereas in Sekiro you play as Wolf. I had a ton of fun with Sekiro and would definitely recommend it but the replayability is admittedly lacking.

[@sileopatronus]

You don't even need builds, the toolkit in sekiro is also just not very flexible so there aren't many ways to approach the game.

[@shydow6870]

I disagree, sekiro is at it's best on a second playthrough when you already understand the mehanics. Also kuro's charm and the bell can make the game insanely more difficult and you can also unlock inner versions of certain bosses which are more powerful

[@jarlbalgruuf2415]

@@shydow6870 you should understand the mechanics within the first 10 minutes

[@TheF4talgamer]

@@jarlbalgruuf2415 No, you aren't gonna get the full scope of mechanics in 10 minutes, not even in 2 runs There's a bunch of advanced prosthetic combos that require you to experiment and master it. People that say there isn't variety simply are ignoring the whole variety of combat you can get from using protesthics

[@jarlbalgruuf2415]

@@TheF4talgamer sounds like a skill issue. Son everyone else platted the game and cleared the gauntlets after the first run. C'mon give us an example of some real deep combat varieties the game doesn't tell you about

[@CLIVIXX]

IMO sekiro will always have the most replay value out of all the games just based off of the combat mechanics alone. It’ll probably always be my favorite game until they make a sequel to it and I pray to god that they do.

[@antx_soulsborne_meat_rider]

It doesnt have as much replayability as the rest

[@AlesMicik]

yes it does

[@irelandspacifist6156]

@@AlesMicik no multiplayer. invasions etc. duels. there is no way u can say it has equal replayability. this is actually factually wrong like it isn't even just your opinion you are just wrong

[@irelandspacifist6156]

@@Victor_StudentOfFloppa i knew this was coming but it's such a retarded thing to say that it's subjective. hey i fought a bear once and i also fought a mouse. the mouse managed to bite me a few times and injure me but the bear i knocked out with one punch, so mice are stronger than bears. it's all subjective this was my experience. it is borderline retarded to say sekiro has the replayability of the other games

[@jan-ep7lm]

it has more

[@irelandspacifist6156]

@@Victor_StudentOfFloppa i pace back and forth in my narrow hallway of 10 metres length all day every day. sure you can travel the world and you can leave the hallway etc but my hallway has more replayability than having the entire world to explore, because i am retarded enough to do the same thing over and over, subjective. sekiro is a shorter game. no online. sure you say you can do challenges etc. you can do that in all the games, PLUS A LOT MORE. bloodborne chalice dungeons is literally limitless unique events

[@nuclearscarab]

The game is actually very repayable. Not in that bosses are still a challenge to complete, but like you mentioned in the video, getting the flow of combat perfect or near perfect is so satisfying. I replay to get my combat flow better and better, because the better your combat flow, the more fun the game becomes. There are also difficulty modifiers if you like that sort of thing. I completed the game with them, but also did a no-hit fight with Isshin without any modifiers. The replay-ability is there, and the second playthrough is actually the most fun playthrough. However, you need to find the replay-ability yourself.

[@MonopolyMoney247]

I can't recommend this game enough. I wish I could forget everything and play again. Getting past the learning curve for the 1st time and understanding the combat is the best feeling

[@landondude77]

Sekiro is my favorite souls game, the only one I truly consider myself good if not great at compared to the others, its the only one to me that the souls saying "its not your character that gets better its you" or other interpretations simular to that in which I felt aplied because their was no chance for me to change to a glass cannon build and one shot bosses only me and my sword could best the boss no matter the odds I didn't need the best luck for that attack I didn't know how to dodge through, its just me who knows if they swing block it in sync

[@adamshead]

After watching the whole thing, i agree with i think every point made, I only differ on the fact that i don't personally mind being able to have easier successive playthroughs, because I've already put in the work. It makes it feel more like being the hero in a book you've already read, knowing the journey doesn't make it any less enjoyable.

[@jeff3221]

It also fits the lore more that you're actually beating everyone and not just dying 50 times to Genichiro or Demon of Hatred hahaha

[@liamreynolds9688]

Sekiro is the closest thing that I have played to a perfect game!! Even if it isn't necessarily my favorite, I think it executes everything it's trying to do so perfectly. I still go back and replay the boss gauntlets every few months :D

[@mylittledota4653]

It's the hardest souls game for me. Maybe even harder than my very first playthrough of DS1. However, it's the most rewarding game I've ever played. No other game gives you such a feeling of growing above your past self.

[@MYwinters1945]

There is a little detail the represents that growth. In the first fight with genichiro, the one that cuts your arm, Sekiro holds the sword with hesitation as he pulls it out. In the last fight with genichiro, in the same field, before Isshin, Sekiro holds the sword with absolute confidence. What a marvelous game.

[@howyouknowthat]

@@MYwinters1945hesitation is defeat.

[@flamingmanure]

it has the hardest start of the souls games if you played the others before it, but once i got used to it, it became the easiest by far. the problem with sekiro is the combat isnt actually that deep, its precise but deep as a puddle, once mastered, the game's combat kinda becomes a joke...at least to me. you can experiment with prosthetics ofcourse which i did, unlike many sekiro fans, but i can see why so many ppl didnt, because pressuring the enemy with simple R1s and L1s and occasionally use the 2 or 3 actually good prosthetics is objectively just far better than experimenting with all of them.

[@TruthAndReconciliation]

Getting destroyed by genichiro during the tutorial on your first playthrough only to demolish him during the NG+ tutorial is one of the most satisfying gaming experiences

[@sensoeirensen]

ffs Sekiro is NOT a soulsgame at all! Even From Soft said so! Stop calling it a Soulsgame. It‘s not!!

[@yuumei5713]

Sekiro, Ghost of Tsushima, Nioh 1and 2 as well as Wo Long set me up perfectly for games like Rise of the Ronin and Lies of P. Before Sekiro, i legit didn't even know what a parry was. Then I mastered it.

[@loneshinobi2682]

Great games all around. Love em’

[@Simon-ph7gl]

honestly i love sekrio's replayability, the combat is so fun, so mastering every single bossfight feels very rewarding. no hitting every boss with no prosthetics just feels awesome. it's basically like acting out the most badass anime fight. i can see it's not for everyone tho

[@twall91]

This was my first FromSoft game. And I’m merely waiting for the right time to play through it again. Feeling like a ninja badass never gets old

[@exaltedreverse4463]

Sekiro is my comfort game. Finished the game 12 times. I don't need builds for replayability when the games combat and bosses are so fun. Had more fun on Sekiro than any other from game. Returnal is another game I play multiple times because how top tier the gameplay is

[@JMBTheProdigy]

one playthrough games shouldnt die. Games dont have to be endless content for it to be worth the time. You might know what happens in a movie over and over after watching it 100 times and it never changes. That doesnt mean the movie wasnt worth the watch or the money it took to purchase it. Sequals were meant to give you more. DLC and endless gameplay loops are quite honestly silly for both the consumer and the dev.

[@TriptuneRadio]

So with your first point, I can concede that you never get that same first game again, but you can still get unique experiences with things like the demon bell, kuro's charm, and the boss rushes

[@Jose-oq6kj]

I got stuck in sekiro, its the only from soft game I've not finished. Maybe this video will tip the scale and I'll get on it. Thanks for the content Lenny.

[@forbiddenaether1012]

This was actually my first “souls” game so it holds a space in my heart, still my favorite combat system of all the fromsoft games

[@RoyalJester17]

the best think about sekiro, is that you improve with the main character. the first fight, when you re meant to lose, vs geni, Sekiro is rusty, can barely draw is sword, and you as a player have no idea wtf you are doing. by the end game, when you get to fight him before isshin, he is just a speed bump, because you, the player, improved with the character I don't see this brought up a lot but imo, best thing about sekiro.

[@emilnilsson6354]

For me sekiro have the most replay value beacuse of the combat and the fast pace. I also love how you get all upgrades you need from just doing fun fights, no more running around just picking stuff upp😊

[@FictionalAlarm]

I just started my 3rd replay of this game a couple of days ago. I find it to be one of the most satisfying games to play when you get to grips with the deflect/parry system. It can be a tricky game so learning to master the combat and doing it correctly just feels so good.

[@Duv1995]

And then there's me, with more than 2000+ hours of gametime and I keep coming back to Sekiro every 2-3 months to start it allover again. And it never gets old tbh.

[@synx5196]

its a completely different game like armored core is to dark souls. the lore is not that deep at all compared to the fully unique universes of the other fromsoft games and there is no multiplayer to keep the conversation going after getting all the endings

[@beatotheelder6170]

Started a charmless demon bell run for my NG+4 and it does sort of reset the challenge and make the replay more interesting. Trash mobs can no longer just be mowed down, those regular riflemen in the Outskirts will eat half your HP bar in one hit if you let them.

[@NobleBruv]

Sekiro is objectively their most well crafted game.

[@grantpolley]

nah

[@ThomasVvV]

If you have so few components you can’t do much wrong. They still screwed up every boss fight which isn’t 1v1

[@Neatrior]

If I get a chance to talk about it, I do. It’s a really fun game when you understand and master its mechanics. There’s nothing better than fully perfectly deflecting genichiro’s floating passage. Best part is if your deflect game is on point your posture NEVER breaks. The game rewards you for taking advantage of its mechanics. I have never been much of a Souls game fan. I appreciated the games but never got into them. But this game, I wish from-software makes a sequel or expands upon it somewhere down the line freaking brilliant game.

[@ThomasVvV]

Just replayed it, game still sucks. No variety, worst bosses and level design in the series, its downgradesouls for weebs

[@AlesMicik]

I played Sekiro for the first time this year and I think it's one of the best games I've ever played. Btw. it was after Elden Ring my second Fromsoft game.

[@Shmandalf]

Sekiro is probably the most difficult of all their recent games - victory comes down to reflex and frames, which isn't a new thing for From, but the windows are so tight here at times.

[@Jim-8]

Best game ever made

[@ginebro1930]

Idk i played it three times wich is more than any other in the series, really don't care about multiplayer.

[@markhohenbrink5230]

My problem with Sekiro is that you need great precision and timing but its not very forgiving. This is only a problem when you get into latency, bugs, input delay, frane drops, and attack eligibilty. I hate when im doing great in a fight then my entire screen turns yellow becuase lightning boy lightnings all over me.

[@mightygary6083]

Funny coincidence, I actually started replaying Sekiro yesterday. Fate really out here reinforcing that sekiro is not only of the most challenging yet satisfying Fromsoft experiences out there. Owl and Isshin are two of my favourite bosses out of any Fromsoft title and I'm so glad to be challenging them to fierce sword combat once again!

[@cloudshad0ws]

The Owl and Isshin fights are incredible. Probably two of the best boss fights period.

[@nicolassouza6063]

don't know if this is an "unpopular opinion" but I feel that is wrong to consider sekiro a "souls like"

[@Draconianoverlord55]

If FS has ever done a masterpiece is sekiro. I dream of a secuel or a euro knoght, renaissance like sekiro

[@austincod21]

I feel playing this game and beating it instantly makes you decent at any game with a somewhat similar parry system

[@tonyblobfish5418]

The 4 year old single player experience has already been experienced by most people who are into the genre 😱

[@MarkHogan994]

? Dark Souls 1 is 12 years old, and people still talk about it 100 times more than Sekiro. Same for Witcher 3, Bloodborne, God of War 2018, Red Dead Redemption 2, and dozens of other games. Tons of games are older than Sekiro, and are also single player games that have already been experienced by most people who are into the genre, and yet those games are still discussed all the time. Sekiro is a masterpiece but is rarely discussed.

[@YetiCoolBrother]

For me atleast, Sekiro is just one of those games thats so hyper specific at what it does that you're either in the mood for EXACTLY THAT or you're not.