Seller Said This $150 Sled Wouldn't Run...I Found The Problem In 10 Minutes

I buy a $150 Arctic Cat Panther 440cc sled and fix it in 10 minutes. #Fixed, #Vintage,
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[@newfoundlandoutdoors6463]

Little tip with those old machines if your planning to keep it disconnect the oil injection and mix your own gas. Lost a few motors when the oil injection stopped working without me knowing

[@tinytank3915]

Agreed!

[@renoallstate4573]

I hear this all the time and I have had many old sled and never an issue other than my yamaha SRV pump started leaking oil all over so that one I disconnected, one polaris 340 I purchased a guy said the oil pump quit but it was actually a bad crank seal

[@LeObsidianCraft]

@@renoallstate4573 most of the time it's a lack of maintenance that ruins motors not the oil pump. It's a oilied pump that pumps oil. Not likely to wear out and fail

[@tinytank3915]

@@mattman9232 maybe 2 or 3 minutes if that if I had to guess. Just depends on how hot the machine is already and how hard you're running it when you no longer have oil coming into the gas... It won't take long at all!

[@c50ge]

Totally agree, learned that from my Dad over 50 years ago on a Bridgestone 100.

[@heithdotysadventures7824]

There's a metal cable and spring that's missing to hold the hood up . There should be a screw up around the back side of the light housing that holds the small metal cable. Look wear marks on the plastic. It hooks to a spring that should hook to a eye loop around the exhaust somewhere, if the eye is not there hook the spring to one of the exhaust Springs or the hook part that the spring hooks to on the exhaust, make sure after you hook those two together the end of the metal cable that's left usually gets both down to the exhaust manifold bolt. The spring is only there to hold the hood open with a little springy action. That sled was fantastic for the time and age that it first come out, you can adjust the rear suspension as well and you can play with the front clutch a little bit you can also order those two gaskets for the carburetor online replace those two gaskets so it doesn't blow the sled up it's going to run too lean if you don't good luck

[@stevenmatsoukas7905]

It’s in amazingly good shape for it’s age.

[@lucascady4992]

Yeah, agreed! Most of them that old died in the field or barn 30 yrs ago!

[@flat-earther]

stevenmatsoukas I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@rustybux]

I knew it would be somewhere on the coil. . Something as simple as a broken wire....You got a Great deal on that Sled.

[@homerburns7387]

love your clip. I watched with amazement as you explained it great. This was super learning tool.

[@mmddmm553]

Nice step by step process 👍🏻. Enjoy

[@Fatpig-fq3vb]

As a guy in the UK the prices you pay just amaze me im no expert on these but if this on ebay in the uk even bust it would be hugely more .

[@frankyw8803]

Hahahahahha That reminds me of when I had Trials Bikes and taking "10 minutes" to fix them up . well done .

[@slik2244]

I'm 16 and I love everything to do with engines just hard for me to learn to fix them without anyone willing to help I have a 80s ski doo 583 and I love it but has not ran in a couple of years bummed that I can't get it running but I'm trying.

[@shawnmacwhinnie4481]

My family had a 1987 Panther 500 fan, single carb, All red. Identical to this. Suzuki spirit engine. Broke down twice a year every year. I’m guessing this is an 83-86.

[@martinmallasch2814]

I always use an inductive timing light to check for spark

[@jickmccivy6327]

It would cost $150 to rent one for the time you have already rode and the valid trail sticker is a bonus too .

[@Lord_Moose]

Whenever a snowmobile doesn't have spark I usually assume it's either a bad spark plug or the solenoid is bad, I've never assumed it was the ignition of the Killswitch.

[@billmorrison7172]

You better check the chain case oil and service both clutches I didn’t see you do any of those things and they’re real pricey to repair when they go south.

[@jdram58]

Well for a hundred fifty bucks you got a steal of a deal. You wanna get rid of it let me know for a thousand to fifteen hundred bucks.Arctic cats were common around here. You can bitch about cosmetics but you can work on the old ones but the new ones and the price? We had fun on the old ones to arctic cat polaris skidoo rupp yamahas john deere. Ive seen many come back to life fairly easy. These things only get used what 4 or 5 months a year so they go out of style quicker then burning them out depends how much people use them to. It'll burn rich or smoke till you get the premix gas through and start using the regular gas and oil pump on the machine itself. Probably improve performance as well though extra oil in a machine that hasnt run for a while sure isnt going to hurt it either.

[@dustin5446]

How long for next video bro just finished this 😎💪🏻💙

[@griswald322]

Nice feeling when you fix something like that. A bit more than 10 mins though lol.

[@CSERepair]

Once you get the hand and you’ve been around some tough machines. You develop a dummy proof logic. I absolutely love working on stuff like this and love the videos! Keep swinging that quality content

[@ronbradshaw7404]

Just so you know; 99% of small engines (from weed eaters to multiple cylinder 2 strokes), had a GROUND ignition cut. They all GROUND the coil's primary or secondary to kill the ignition. On an old motocross bike for example, the kill switch simply grounds the ignition. The simplest troubleshooting on those is to DISconnect all ignition switches, main, tether and killswitch.

[@aaronbrunelle6604]

This sled was a great deal, runs awesome now that you fixed it. Many memories you could create with a vintage snowmobile. Thanks for the content!

[@clayayers9527]

Just saying I work with them over 35 years nothing better than on hard work then you know what you doing everything not in books

[@Jasonradiation999]

Yep.. like pulling a vertebrae out of whack lifting it's ass end of steel....😅 jk

[@anthonyg6221]

I recommend you run premix even with oil injection. If that pump fails, engine is toast and you won't know until its too late. Extra oil in the gas will not hurt a thing. I've been doing that for 25 years on old 2 strokes and never had a melt down yet. When it fired up that was just awesome! What a win! I'm going tonight to get a preseason deal on two old cats for $200 total. Hopefully mine are easy fixes like yours! Hard to believe these sleds sold for thousands in their day, most had little use, and we can scoop them up today for a days work / chump change!

[@yankee2yankee216]

You WOULD be adding oil to the gas on 2-strokes, which require that. I’m not too sure it’s wise to put oil in the gas for a 4-stroke motor… It might foul the plugs, or cause other issues. You might be right about everything, but it is news to me!

[@hugejohnson5011]

Extra oil in the gas leans out the fuel and air mixture. As long as one realizes this, and jets accordingly, no harm done. Sounds counter intuitive to some people, but of the concentration of oil in the fuel is higher, there is less gasoline per unit of volume then, right? Common sense, what isn't there, isn't there. So, for anyone "adding extra to protect the engine" could actually cause it to run too lean, detonate and overheat. It will still be lubricated, but have less actual fuel to burn. The oil doesn't burn, that's why it smokes. If it "burned" there would ne none left to lubricate the engine. I have played with performance two-strokes for quite a long time, and have never lost one to a lubrication failure even with oil injection.

[@anthonyg6221]

@@hugejohnson5011 Yep. My buddies tell me the same thing for the last 25 years. One in particular thinks I'm going to give him lung cancer from too much supertech fumes. 🤣 I've never had an engine issue so I'm going to keep doing it. My newest sled is a 97 Cat and it still runs like new.

[@hugejohnson5011]

@@anthonyg6221 Yes. Not a huge deal unless you jet to the edge of leanness for performance. But of so, and were jetted fairly lean at say 32° F, and then had a Sunday race on the lake, and it was suddenly a 0° day, that could make you lean enough to have a really bad day! Of you're just talking about a trail machine that is run pretty fat to begin with, not such a concern. I'm not being a picky know it all, nor trying to lecture anyone, just sharing what some of us had to learn the hard way. Peace, and enjoy the rest of the winter.

[@glenmallory9982]

In my experience the simple Suzuki 440 41horse engines pretty much an anvil when restored to new condition. If an owner thinks the oil injection pump is questionable, it can be removed. You install a block off plate on the crankcase and run 50-1 synthetic premix using proper synthetic sled oils and premium fuel. Cat sold a competition kit to convert the 1980s Cougar to premix only for snow cross racing. This kit would retrofit any of the 500/440/340 fanner oil injection two strokes. All it was was a block off plate and a case stuffer to take the place of the injection pump in the case. A fellow could make a replica fairly easily. There’s a factory procedure in the manuals on how to check the oil pump for optimum operation. So if I had one of these I’d check it and if it shows signs of failure, remove it and go premix only. Been there, done that, no problems. Modern oils burn just about smoke free after warm up. It’s been 45 years. Things have improved.

[@davidgeorge5946]

Nice work man, my dad had that exact sled he bought new in 80, my brother and I rode that till it wouldn't go anymore so hearing that run brought back some memories! It's in amazing condition.

[@flat-earther]

davidgeorge I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@jeffreebailey4464]

Those old Arctic Cats would run like the wind

[@charlieb1613]

I’m proud of you young man! You took your time and methodically checked every option you could to eventually find the issue. Now having said that, you need some experience on soldering. Always, always pre-coat your copper wire. Then when to attach the two solder parts together you will get a clean joint. Be sure the wires are preheated to make a clean connection.

[@drampadreg1386]

Yes, they just don't teach these kids to solder anymore! But he did follow the sequence of events to lead ;him to the problem like mechanical minded folk tend to do. I had no idea I was mechanically inclined until a guy tricked me into taking the 6 month Itek 560 daylight stat camera repair course in 6 weeks! I had no idea it was 6 months until he told me with this silly grin on his face! Shame they are so rare and not really needed with computers these days, best paying job I had was freelancing but with only 5 in the country (Canada) what do you do?

[@elkskiutah8204]

and dont twist the wires with oily gloves

[@jjryansea]

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[@jimgillett1184]

And you use Flux

[@HarmonRAB-hp4nk]

one problem... he fixed it in 10 minutes, but the video clearly shows it still being fixed 23 minutes later.. lil sketchy....took him more like 45 minutes.. ps always follow ignition backwards and he would have got it in less then ten :-) anyway not picking, been dong engines 40 years

[@rvfixerguy]

I hate winter and snow but after watching this video I want to go find a classic sled like this one and go play in the snow and enjoy the 2 stroke aroma!

[@kanadianbacon7733]

*"Me too

[@horstkotte6114]

One piece of advise: look up soldering videos, that's a cold joint. Pre-tin the wire, use solder with flux (most solders nowadays), ideally remove the old solder. The trick is that both parts are up to temperature before the joint starts cooling down. The solder will not stick on a cold part. Also, there is some arcing visible in the shot in front of the garage. It probably was audible as well, often your ears help finding ignition problems

[@aristonia1991]

Thank you; was about to say the same but no longer have to.

[@moparlarsson]

If the "arcing" you see is at 7 minutes I think it's the variator belt messing with your eyes.

[@shawnsatterlee6035]

Yeah his soldering "skills" is no go. And probably whatever "glue" was around it was mixing in with it. Gotta get stuff up to temp and let the solder flow. Not just jump in and throw solder at the gun.

[@funtyes1970]

Here we go here comes experts. Couch experts

[@just_a_norwegian]

@@funtyes1970 Don`t have to be a expert to se that this is a cold joint

[@wobbiewall4821]

You might want to premix your gas and oil - even at 100 : 1 for a bit until you can see if the oil pump is working.

[@kanadianbacon7733]

*"Yes,,,great advice!¡"*

[@flat-earther]

wobbiewall I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@wobbiewall4821]

@@flat-earther Sorry. I'm not a sucker for you clickbait crap.

[@bro8759]

@@kanadianbacon7733 Yep!! that is exactly what I am doing with my new sled. I printed out the testing procedure for the oil pump, but until I verify I pre-mixed the gas and oil.

[@shawnsatterlee6035]

Maybe I am stupid, but after seeing the bullshit oil injection was booted, I would have checked the gas to see if was premixed. I personally would also off the injection anyway and premix at 32:1

[@losebjughashvili8465]

When ever you get an old sled, it’s a good idea to make sure the bogies roll free, before you take off. Especially on old Arctic Cats. The drivers are usually fragile and are easy to break. What I do, is take a hypodermic needle full of 90 weight. And with the sled lifted. I inject 90wt. Passed the rubber seal and into the bogies bearings. And try to grease everything, Jack shaft, skis, etc. I will run it off the track, to see if everything spins nicely…and if it doesn’t. Fix it so it does. That way, you don’t snap off the drive cogs for seized bogies and such. Also. On that engine, I would take it out. And put a new PTO and mag side seal. The old ones suck air and lean/ seize the engine. Just my opinion. Nice sled.

[@greaniebeaniez3070]

This is when you stop using artic cat machines Jesus that's alot just to make it not explode itself

[@losebjughashvili8465]

@@greaniebeaniez3070 well…actually it’s just normal maintenance. Those machines are run in the winter….and variably, encounter salt….with the ice and snow and slush. All that crap of course enters every orifice, and seizes things up when they sit for any length of time.

[@wff58]

This sled has slide rail suspension. Way better than Bogie Wheels.

[@losebjughashvili8465]

@@wff58 so ….it doesn’t have two bogies at the back? And by some miracle they don’t have bearings? “Why no….those two bogies ride on magnetic spaceships that don’t need lubrication.” So….the Jack shaft doesn’t ride on bearings….and doesn’t have a brake rotor….with a possibly seized brake ? And…. Yes, I didn’t mention check the Hi-fax so your not sawing the tunnel in half, and carbides up front so you don’t ruin your skis. Tell me, …..exactly what do you want? Because I’m confused.

[@tomrogers9467]

@@greaniebeaniez3070 Cats were always a headache to keep running. Still are.

[@scottmarshall6766]

Back in that era the blank plate on the dash was for a dual cylinder head temp gauge. My 73 340z (factory racer with a freeair Kawasaki with twin 40mm Mikunis) had them installed along with a tether kill switch. Most of the fan cooled motors didn't have the head temp populated unless someone installed the Arctic Cat upgrade kit. That's a really nice sled, enjoy it!

[@flat-earther]

scottmarshall I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@shawnsatterlee6035]

Oh the junk Kawasaki powered cats that the center seal in crank case always leaked n ran like shit! Arctic cat was smart dumping Kawasaki n going to Suzuki "spirit"!

[@crazyralph6386]

The same thing was on my ‘80 Lynx.

[@PongbyAtari]

You should pre tin your bare wire also use a little Flux for a better solder joint.

[@mmaaddict78]

Also, when you solder, you don’t melt the solder with the iron, you have to heat the wire so it draws the solder into it.

[@crashoverride328]

@@mmaaddict78 He also wants to keep the excess bare wire to a minimum, hell, create a loop at the end for better securement in a high vibration area. Use Amtech 559 flux etc.

[@77perudo]

Use flux also.

[@billprezioso3677]

Learned that in 7 th grade shop class a lot of people don’t know that.

[@lenordvaughan5036]

Yeah, i was screaming at my phone when he was trying to solder it. Also he was asking heat directly to the solder instead of the wire.

[@LorenJohnson-ny3hj]

Nice sled.It's not ugly, it's a very classy sled. Video brings back memories. I had one just like it. Put lots of miles on mine. Took it to the Black Hills in South Dakota for a 3 day weekend.Put 400 hundred miles on it that trip. It was really easy to re jet it for the higher elevation.

[@ChrisRasmussen13]

We had some yamaha phasers that were mid 80's. Agree, these were peak sleds to some extend. Hard to really get killed too bad and durable as hell. Throw some supplies in the back!

[@Changesforever7878]

Nice to see a change and putting sled content in hope you do more like this I enjoy seeing the old sled's back in operation.

[@flat-earther]

freckles I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@James_P60]

Grew up in TRF and a lot of my classmates work at Artic Cat and have retired from their, I remember when Artic released that new style of Panther, we called it the tank and wasn't to friendly in powdered snow but was a great trail sled for its time, sleds really started to change in 79-80-81, fun times, you got a nice sled for only 150.

[@raptor_1474]

Just a helpful tip. I’m pretty sure that motor is a Suzuki. I had a 91 jag that was a spirit. And it was a Suzuki motor

[@2vintage]

That's cool!

[@raptor_1474]

Super great score for a vintage machine that clean I moved to florida 8 years ago. So no more snow. But grew up in Pennsylvania and definitely road a lot of sleds

[@QUIXNZ]

24:02 ? Nah why would a TOTALLY DISCONNECTED ELECTRICAL WIRE (to a twin coil) be the problem, when after all - an electrical fault is the problem of NO SPARK? P.S: At around 10,000 to 20,000 volts of most coils (even when the low circuit is being held to check a fault) - could cause you to have a heart failure (electric shock it's called) USE A PROPER JUMPER - such as a wire with two alligator clips, one at each end (obviously) which will MAKE the circuit, without you having to potentially risk serous harm

[@jamiebouchard9862]

Also I will run a 50:1 premix and put oil in the resivior. Draw a line at oil level and make sure it goes down in level before not pre mixing fuel. It’d suck to blow it up because the mechanical pump didn’t have any prime

[@flat-earther]

jamiebouchard I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@jamiebouchard9862]

@@flat-earther wtf are you talking about??😂😂😂. Sky’s blue, grass is primarily green and earth is round. I’m not positive about anything else so take that mumbo jumbo elsewhere. My grandfather has a 40yr career in aerospace, subcontracted by nasa and lead a team which was responsible for putting the Apollo missions into orbit. Have a wonderful day😂😂

[@flat-earther]

@@jamiebouchard9862 I suggested it to learn stuff tou may have not heard before. Thanks & you have a wonderful day too.

[@keithrichardson1501]

150 is a very low price.

[@CountryAndClassics]

One of the best Snowmobiles ever Made. I still miss My Arctic Cat. I had the 303 Wankle Wngine in Mine & went places breaking trails where others got bugged down. Those Panthers sold for over 3 thousand dollars when new, so You stole that for what You paid for it.

[@frankm8533]

Wow $150 bucks those old Snow mobiles here are in the thousands some don't run and are old beat up excellent buy!!

[@tennesseetrawlerman2228]

Nice job of troubleshooting, but if I may suggest, the solder joint that you made with the solder flowing back along the wire (which can not be helped) makes for a very stiff joint that will be very prone to breaking. It would be worth bending the wire back and perhaps securing it with a tie wrap around the body of the coil to ensure that there is no vibration induced breakage of the wire. In other words, preventing exactly the same issue that stopped the motor in the first instance. Congrats on a logical approach to troubleshooting.

[@michaelmayrend313]

Could he have used solder and then a dab of hot glue to reinforce the connection? Or maybe a cold solder and hot glue if he was worried about heat ruining the coil?

[@MRMechanicRC]

Don’t you love it when wires fray? Had to drop the gas tank on my el Camino just to fix a stupid wire that corroded off on my fuel gauge sending unit 😂

[@culturemotived2190]

Bro you always get the best deals 😂😂I’m actually jealous now 🥺

[@LOCKnLOAD122]

1980 Arctic Cat, Panther 440 Great Find

[@madhampster]

Premixed the gas for a while and watch the oiler to see if it is working. Dont want to kill the engine.

[@flat-earther]

madhampster I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@scott5309]

Run mix and plug the oil injector with vacuum caps on the intakes. It was working anyway with all that smoke

[@leemiller6057]

That sounds like my childhood

[@donnasmith9682]

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[@Eggosj]

I am 22 minutes further, but there is still no spark. So 10 minutes?

[@collinhollis950]

Keep up the interactions when you buy something to me that’s the reason I like watching these types of videos

[@alexlynch8302]

Just a tip when your soldering you want to see the solder flow into the wire by heating it up longer than you did. that will give you a really good joint.

[@highdfire]

If you're trying to solder a broken wire to a stub - and you brought up a good point - trying not to concentrate too much heat on internal components, tin your wire first. Get a good build up of solder on the wire, place the wire on the stub and then apply heat from the wire side. When the solder on the wire side turns molten it joins quickly with the stub without zorching the internals. You followed the diagnosis ABC's to a tee, nice work.

[@superdog1964]

Follow this mans advice. He is spot on when it comes to soldering. Get some flux and keep it handy. There will be lots of situations where the flux in the solder core will not be enough. Also, always make sure that no bare wires are exposed after soldering like on the bottom of this coil. Great job!

[@M.TTT.]

@@superdog1964 I always use flux pretty much, world of difference

[@wirenutt57]

I cringed when he twisted the wire with the dirty gloves - grease will prevent the solder from sticking to the wire. Go back, unsolder the wire, clean it with alcohol, use flux, tin the wire, and resolder. Otherwise he will get what the other guy had - a broken/disconnected trigger wire on the coil!

[@jguenther3049]

It only took 30 minutes to find the problem in 10 minutes! Amazing.

[@RonaldDaub-xi5jz]

You should see the ones the dealer gave up on and he fixes in 10 minutes

[@gretchenstormer6501]

Those old machines always smoked like that just the era of the machine. Good purchase.

[@dannylinc6247]

I was thinking inspect ignition parts and verify spark. Then I was getting anxious as to the result of step one. When you arrived at that open caused by vibration, I had to think attaching a connector tab and a push on connector for the wire and reroute and tie off would reduce the effect of vibration. Others are telling good ideas about paste flux, etc. If you did that, it would probably last and last. Nice job how it worked out for now, but when you're up somewhere in the freezing cold, you don't want that coming loose again. I wish I had your kind of luck and circumstances, sometimes. You did well and that sled is a "good get" at $150. That was a couple hours invested, and minimal expense. Hooray for you.

[@cpgixxer]

I bought my buddies 95 grand touring in the summer, told me he cleaned the carbs and it didn't run right after, he gave up. Bought it for 500 bucks, like you found the problem in 10 minutes- he flipped one of the floats upside down. Not gas getting to one cylinder. Don't you just love it!

[@flat-earther]

cpgixxer I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@allanarndt3047]

That was a screaming deal!

[@mayflowertrillium]

I'm no expert on small engines but it seemed like a very good diagnostic approach. I agree with the recommendations about improving the solder joint. Was the old gas removed from the tank and line? My expert mechanic buddy does that right away, because it's often the main culprit or at least a significant contributor to non/poor-running small engines. Some high-octane gas may contain ethanol which will attract water even if stored in a garage. A dose of Seafoam might be in order. Glad to see it turned out to be a good find ! Also see good tips at www.youtube.com/@StevesSmallEngineSaloon

[@quantumss]

Pull it a couple times and no spark, pulling 50 more times and still no spark. Who woulda thunk ---------------- scary.

[@dondiego2262]

One more thing you might want to check out is the intake between the carb and the engine. The one cylinder looked to be running lean I don't know if the intake air and fuel split for the cylinders or if it is a matter of the path of least resistance sort of thing going on but reestablishing a power balance between the cylinders will help it last longer.

[@samssonenterprises1927]

Fan cooled twin cylinders can use two different heat range plugs. The cylinder on the left further from the fan typicaly runs a little hotter so it can handle 1 range cooler plug. Makes tuning and reading plugs more accurate.

[@flat-earther]

dondiego I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@shawnsatterlee6035]

One cylinder will always run much hotter than the other obviously by how the fan is placed.

[@truthslayerone264]

NOT VERY GOOD TROUBLESHOOTING, should located that in less than 5 min, use proper tools, volt/ohm meter check power to coil first. done

[@whowantstoknowido]

Great deal. You might want to avoid towing from the ski tips though. You could snap a ski leg.or bend a tie rod. As you pull foreward there is an equal pressure trying to pull your ski tips inward.Much better to pass your rope around the ski legs themselves. That way there is no leverage trying to pull the ski tips together.

[@StrugeLabs]

where do they usually get towed out from

[@rexfreelom4300]

Good 440cc from the Sled and clutch system build in from Suzuki worth $4,999.00 and you bought it for only 150 dollars in Canada or USA?

[@boskosdoghouse]

I personally would give it back to the dude and say Merry Christmas...you are beyond getting deals like this.

[@2vintage]

he didn't want to store it anymore and needed the space in his garage to store the outdoor furniture.

[@rexfreelom4300]

The oil pump is New NOS for Artic TrailCat 1980 to 1981 Panther 440 is at the price $39.99 dollars and the address is in Boulder Junction, Wisconsin and It is rare and hard to find that part - Last one in stock. From Arctic Suzuki or Polaris for Parts and Financial Sales and at a new Artic Spirit 370cc at dealer's lot of Kawasaki ski water sled and powerful sleigh repair mechanic R & R named Replacement and repair Services of possible two states. or John Deere which is a one state therefor it is insufficient to sell Snowmobile Parts. My job as a dealer is just Fresh Summer Squashes Selling site. So Northern-Parts is where he is selling. The other oil pump building is for 1998 440cc power Sled is worth $99.99 dollars plus shipping cost. And I am not sure where it is brand new and order unless I have the Part number stamped in your oil pump of the Spirit 440cc Twin motor IC.

[@danm2422]

It wasn’t sticking good when you were soldering because you need to use some flux. Great little sled tho, I love those older sleds from the early 80’s

[@flat-earther]

danm I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@BryanTorok]

CLICK BAIT "I Found The Problem In 10 Minutes" but, 22 minutes into the video and you still haven't found the problem. SKIP TO 23:30 for the broken wire on the bottom of the coil. I'm still wondering why one spark plug is black, carboned up, and the other looks like it should. That suggests either the wrong heat range of plug or a problem with that cylinder.

[@riccochet704]

something about those old smoker sleds that are just plain cool.

[@flat-earther]

riccochet I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@FredD63]

Bypass the oil injection premix using Amsoil oil ( your clothes will thank you )…… That old injection was junk especially on the air cooled engines…. Adjust your rear suspension for your weight and being that old I probably would say the rear shock is wore out.

[@ryanjohnson1814]

Dang, the condition of that sled is amazing. I can't believe it, one of the nicer old sleds I've seen. Even mine back when I bought used sleds, were not in that great shape, what a steal of a price. The pull cord will break again. Replace with new cord.

[@flat-earther]

ryanjohnson I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@michaelscott356]

@@flat-earther Who the hell ARE you? And what are you talking about??

[@josephshields2057]

The CD box was an issue with a lot of those late '70s early '80s cats. I had a '76 El'Tigre and would be cruising along and the motor would quit. No spark, after sitting a while it would fire right back and do it again sporadically. I put n a new CD problem solved.

[@palco22]

1980 Panther in decent shape goes for around $900 to $1,100. For $150 that was given away !

[@QUIXNZ]

35:10 ? Do you realize how many times I've seen apprentice electricians make the same "idiotic" mistake as you did there (starting at 35:10 )? Almost every time an apprentice needed to repair an extension cord, or "fit" a replacement plug to an appliance, they'd get it all done before they "discovered" .. On no - oh hell, there is a cap, that the cable needs to go through BEFORE the connections are made (in your case the knot tied). Most "plugs" have a cap that the cable is fed through (meaning the cap of the plug needs to go onto the cable, LONG BEFORE the cable is stripped, and electrical connections made, or the internal exposed metal inside the plug, is left for all to see, and is a major electrocution problem. In your case, that HUGE plastic handle won't fit through the small hole in the firewall / beneath the dashboard.. As - the pull starter isn't operated with the hood open is it?

[@bbwachter]

As an electrical engineer, I’ll give you a couple quick tips number one when you soldering on a coil use a heat sink, put it between where your soldering and the cap. This will ensure the internal wiring won’t be melted 2. Follow some of your comments as far as learning how to solder and crimp wires. This will make all of your projects, much more professional. I’m 75 years old and love watching your videos. Keep doing what you’re doing!

[@clayayers9527]

After doing elect work for 35 years never saw many elect engineer had any idea what was going on unless it in the book that show they do not know his butt from hole in ground

[@beakittelscherz5419]

@@clayayers9527 So.. he has no right to give him a good advice? I think that was a friendly ,Constructive Comment with a Nice Thumbs up at the end.... So , why so harsh? You aint know the man..

[@waltercohee9946]

@@clayayers9527 Well at 75 years of age he probably has a fair share of hands on electrical work I would be willing to bet.

[@RonaldDaub-xi5jz]

​@beakittelscherz5 it's one of his cult followers419

[@rexfreelom4300]

You can make 150 dollars of product but you have a potential better to ride the snow and running up to 15 mph but speedometer you don't need it Please disconnect it. Use Tachometer and dwell to fire the twin flat head? Because once you got the compression test with a thumb over the empty of spark plug and threaded hole while someone else pull rope start. It look like Briggs and Stratton power up by your gasoline and How many gallon is the capacity of gas carrying tank? And oil is how much capacity in the motor of magneto with brand new coil as require for the answer Yes or No? They make it and stock or rare find at PARTS to make it run Dealership named YardMax and SnowlandMax that is nice to build the turbo throw of the snow at behind the track. The job of the 170cc twin or two motor into 340cc twin Rato must build new avail to stock a lot of the oil pump for Ski motormobile at Big Lot and Professional Auto Parts and snowland transportation Part My company is Multimobile and with your Incorporation.

[@martinredman9402]

Well done. Longest 10 minutes of my life. Re: Soldering (as we call it in the UK), I was taught to silver the wires to be attached with solder, before trying to solder them to the point required.

[@myrathelagyeman]

hey handsome ,how are you doing today ?

[@JqwsXD]

It would be cool to see you keep trading this sled for newer and newer sleds! Maybe a mid 90s one next that could use some love, and then keep going up in the years! It would make for a good series!

[@dddizzyddd]

I should have filmed my escapades the last couple years cause that's pretty much what I've been doing to the point where I have a paid off 04 renegade for my wife.

[@flat-earther]

Jqwsxd I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@QUIXNZ]

27:59 4rkn hell? I hate bush mechanics who have ZERO idea of how to operate soldering irons. FIRST never strip off more insulation, than is needed to allow the wire to be soldered to connect to the item being repaired. If you do over strip the insulation, always SNIP OFF the excess wire exposed, with side cut pliers. THEN TIN THE WIRE (apply a clean solder joint) to the WIRE ONLY, long before you then attempt to "solder joint, the wire to the broken connection (such as at the bottom of that coil. All I saw there, was the end of the coil wire, being BLOB soldered, with the wire you had stripped, getting zero tinning (actually it was becoming insulated with all the resin from the solder you were using. Heavens forbid, if that will ever be "stuck" correctly, as the excessively stripped cable would be a hazard for electrical failure in the future.

[@JohnSmith-yv6eq]

and mechainical failure from vibration... which the insulation that normally would have been left on the wire would ameliorate..... i.e. the last insulated length of wire was good for 40 years....

[@LewisTheFly888]

Sweet Jesus. You are a grumpy old bugger. Read your comments. Loosen up. Smile. Relax the sphincter. He did an ok job given his knowledge. Great video

[@randalbloomquist7812]

Nice old sled! I would keep an eye on the spark plugs for a while and ensure that they are the correct heat range for that engine. Too hot will burn a hole in the top of the piston. If spark plugs are a chocolate brown color then your air / fuel / oil mixture is good. You mentioned the gasket between the carburetor and intake manifold possibly leaking. If there is a leak, it will suck air and cause a lean fuel condition that will melt pistons at wide open throttle. If spark plugs are white, there is a lean fuel condition and there will be problems. Reading the spark plugs on the old 2 strokes will tell you the health of the engine. Have fun with your new toy!

[@tinytim9453]

Excellent info, thanks!

[@randalbloomquist7812]

@@tinytim9453 Your welcome, I learned this the hard way as a kid drag racing in the 70s.

[@Thearmorcav]

Odd that someone that sells you this Sled for $150 is going to put Brand New NGK plugs and wires.

[@territodude]

Got a be a thrill for $150! Great job! Not too confident in the solder job, looks like a possible cold solder joint that will fail later on, just saying.

[@b01tact10n]

Great video! I love the content, you got very great troubleshooting skills very respectable! My late cousin 01-04-23, and I found an abandoned crashed 94 Jag 440 with 2,000 plus miles, took the engine, driven clutch, and chain case, harness. We rebuilt the engine, the found a nice 91 JagLT body and got it put together this past summer 22. He lowered the gearing and changed the clutching, and also the driven. It's top speed is about 40 plus but... hauling logs with it is a blast😁

[@qbygaming7879]

I PAID 150 for this broken sled and found the problem in 10 minutes within a hour long video :)

[@nigelsmith721]

Great video - really enjoyed it. The L seems to be missing from your solder though.

[@QUIXNZ]

44:50 NOW - go buy a workshop / owners manual for that machine, or download one from the internet - as running it without any idea as to tuning / servicing it, could be as fatal to the motor, as look what happened to it, when "worked on without knowledge" by the sellers step son.

[@skaterdude5895]

You gave me the motivation to get and rebuild my fist dirt bike thanks to you I got just got that baby running love the videos I’ve see them all keep up the great work man

[@flat-earther]

skaterdude I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@novaka240]

Running pre-mixed gas on these old machines is safer because if/when the oil pump goes then you're out of luck.

[@bigman55434]

That cable for the oil pump determines how much oil to inject. More throttle equals more oil. It’s a metering valve. Even disconnected it would still inject some oil. That was a great buy. That sled is in great shape and runs great

[@flat-earther]

I appreciate your insight. BTW bigmsn I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@corgicliffdivingteam8280]

You would think the guy in the fancy pants would have moved his junk out of the way for you.

[@nabyard]

Great job man! Honestly great job. Shows everyone that just because it's old, does not mean it's broken. And word of advice from someone who's burned a 2 stroke down by trusting that pump to much. Don't trust those pumps. Always premix. It's a fail safe way to ensure it lives longer and better.

[@Erix7810]

Eh… oil pumps last a lifetime. Don’t worry.

[@Boga217]

Pulling it 5 times isn't going to yield different results..pul it once or twice and you'll know.

[@leol6406]

Nice score. Gotta love those easy fixes. Reminds me of my first sled. A 1971 panther 399. Bought it from a customer I was doing work for back in the late 90s. I worked on it more than I rode it. Seemed to always break something every ride but was still fun. Some tips for you. Flux with your solder everytime, get some carbides for your front skis. It will turn on a dime even on ice. Don't tie up your pull cord before you run it through all the brackets. Lol great video, brought back alot of memories. I really miss riding my last sled I ever bought which was a 03 900 mountain cat. Thing was a rocket. Anyways have fun and carry tools with you if you go very far from home. Great little trail riding / ice fishing machine u got there. Sure is in nice shape.

[@shawnnelson6146]

Might check carburator boot for age cracks. In cold they cause lean fuel condition (vac leak) and toast cylinders.

[@ralfslagzdins11W11]

That’s awesome to find and fix that now you have a new machine

[@alanshaw4655]

best comment, 'it's still smoking ''well duh..its a 2-stroke !..lol.

[@VyantQuijt]

Cool ride! I got this exact issue on my motorcycle a couple months ago, but that's a 4 cylinder, so I could limp it home on just 2. Had it diagnosed and fixed in no time. Small note on the soldering; I learnt that you shouldn't twist the wire (or only very slightly) as it prevents the solder from flowing in between the strands properly. You get a stronger connection untwisted. A little flux would help the tin flow too ofcourse. I finished mine with a dollop of hot glue just for good measure, though you probably did that off camera.

[@flat-earther]

vyantquijt I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@krawskyb577p6]

$150 is a steal for that sled> a little cleaning and some sanding, polishing and clear coat on the gauges and it will look rand new. i know there are some old heads out there that look for the older sleds and would pay good money for this one

[@duane3838]

Had a 1980 Arctic Cat Jag 3000 with a 340cc in it when I was a kid and this brought back so many memories. Loved that sled even though it was underpowered compared to everyone else. Those old Arctic Cat engines are almost bulletproof, never had any problems and mine always started by the second pull no matter how cold it was or how long it sat before starting. If I could offer some advice as an armchair quarterback, I definitely recommend redoing your solder repair. It'll work short term, but that's going to break off again or just fall off because it's a cold joint. Strip it shorter, no more than the thickness of the center conductor between the solder pile and the insulation, and before you solder gently scrape the center conductor with an Exacto or razor blade to remove any coating that may be on it or dirt/varnish from being 40+ years old, then put the tip of the iron on the bare wire and touch the solder to the wire not the iron. The solder should be absorbed into the wire and flow up it, then attach it to the coil.

[@flat-earther]

duane I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@patrickrooney5130]

Good to see you found the problem. But it's the first thing I would have thought of. have fun on it good luck buddy.

[@retro440]

Cool project. I love seeing vintage stuff get a new chance to shine. And, its not ugly. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's vintage gorgeous! Great vid!

[@flat-earther]

retro I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@davidseitz9788]

I think someone dosen't know how to tell time. That looks like it took a little more than 10 minutes. Like over 20 minutes. Ya.

[@ghettsumm7949]

That recoil rope is most likely the original, too bad there's no electric start.😔 What a nice machine! I don't think it's ugly at all!

[@danm2422]

I would love to see more sled content! There’s some cool powerful machines you could be working on, I’d watch that guaranteed.

[@flat-earther]

danm I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

[@thunderroad7289]

Spirit engine is a Suzuki engine. Over the years they only used Suzuki and Kawasaki engines. Up till the four strokes engines anyways

[@jayjudd6518]

Hope you keep this one. It’s a doozy. Always follow your adventures.