Selling my Sony A7SIII for the Sony A7IV???

The Sony A7 IV is an amazing hybrid 4K mirrorless camera that shoots stunning 33MP photos. But is it worth selling the Sony A7S3 for? Also, watch this mini documentary I filmed entirely on the Sony A7IV: • The Plant Shop: A Sony...
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CHAPTERS
0:00 16 Reasons to sell the Sony A7S III
0:14 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 video
1:32 Crop Mode
2:56 Better Color Science
3:18 ISO Performance
4:00 Flip Out Screen
4:18 Better AF System
4:51 Focus Map
5:21 Focus Breathing Compensation
5:56 New Custom Dial
6:49 Active Stabilization
7:26 Dual SD / CF Express Type A
8:20 Same Ports as A7S3
9:18 Bigger Grip
9:50 Same Body as A7S3
10:35 Fair Price
11:11 4K 60p Crop
11:53 No 4K 120p
12:29 Rolling Shutter
13:07 Sell my Sony A7S3?

[@SidneyDiongzon]

WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT THE SONY A7IV???

[@ClaudioDesideriFilms]

If you were to buy one between the two coming from the A6500 (as I do, so it's the first full frame) imagining you are 70% video a 30% photo shooter, which one would you choose? Would you save some money on the A7iv to get a full-frame lens with the remaining money or would you just go with the A7siii anyway?

[@SidneyDiongzon]

That’s a good point with getting the A7IV and using the money you would have spent on the A7SIII with a good lens!

[@JAXTWIN]

Totally unrelated but I have one question for anyone. Is there a quality difference that your eyes can see between the Type A cards versus V90 cards?

[@ClaudioDesideriFilms]

@@SidneyDiongzon thanks for your reply. Alright but I would like to know what would you do based on your experience. And speaking about the devil, apart from the specs...with which camera you had a better overall experience/more fun/more enjoyment and excitement? Anyway, these two are probably the most divisive cameras made in the modern era... Sony really did it this time!😤

[@JAXTWIN]

Okay, I lied. Does the A7IV have the zoom toggle switch like the FX3 does? Funny you should mention the FX3 because I literally was going to add it to my cart like 2 weeks ago and noticed all the Sony cameras being marked down and that’s when it’s clicked…new camera coming!

[@nafnaf0]

2:18 The APS-C Crop Factor is closer 1.5 on Sony Cameras (it is close to 1.6 on Canon). Sony A7iv, FF: 7008 x 4672. APS-C: 4608 x 3072. Crop Factor = 1.521

[@jordanjk]

Focus map is blue when sth is out of focus behind your object and red shows area out of focus in front if your object. Thigs that are in focus are without any colors 😃

[@dibyadipdutta1248]

I came to the comment section to talk about the same and found your comment

[@stuartmartin093]

Great video, all valid points, you are misunderstanding the focus mapping though. Anything without coloured squares is pin sharp. Light blue is slightly further away from focus, blue is further away than that, orange is slightly in front of focus red is really in front of focus.

[@tn01h]

you can also map on previous Sony cameras ISO to be on dial ring (no need to press ISO button and select ISO) just turn you dial ring

[@jeff.amador]

Hi Sidney. Thanks for the video. Are the base ISOs (800 and 3200) if you are filming in slog3? Or no PP?

[@MollyFitzBrown]

Great info, I will be using the crop mode tip with my Sony 20mm lens for sure!! Can't wait for pre-orders to start shipping!

[@houseofintent]

Some of these reasons don’t make sense because half of the things mentioned are already in the a7sIII 🤨. There are only 2 reasons I would switch and that’s the high MP and Crop Mode. I hope the a7sIV has at least 24MP. The only things missing from the a7sIII are anamorphic mode, open gate, crop mode, and 24MP for it to be my perfect camera

[@MediaBuccLA]

Exactly what I was thinking…

[@deletedwaffles]

That 12MP is the only thing keep me from wanting the A7S III.

[@MediaBuccLA]

@@deletedwaffles it’s not bad honestly. It’s still high quality. Not good for printing larger than 20 inches but most likely you’re using the pics for web or social so it doesn’t matter

[@houseofintent]

@@deletedwaffles yeah, that was a BIG miss. 24MP would have made it the most versatile camera in their lineup apart from the a1.

[@PressRec]

You really don’t need more than 12mp for 4K video .for photo, the more the better

[@StreaminFreedom]

Great video Sidney!! Great quality! Exactly the info I was looking for.

[@JavierMercedes]

Very cool comparison, got to know a lot of the features of the 4 by watching.

[@joshmoxey.]

Great video man. Really like the idea of going the hybrid route when I jump to full frame, so this was really reassuring seeing that the features are this close. That rolling shutter does make a bit nervous though lol

[@jk4k989]

Thanks for the video Sidney! Would you say the stabilization is the same, better, or worse than the A7S III?

[@akkarparkiamopas3401]

Just to add something. The Focus breathing compensation is still mostly working for GM lens and some of G lens. it is still not working for any third party lens just yet. Thanks for a good review.

[@dericsanchez4081]

I doubt it ever will work with any third party lenses.

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

Yes please do a video on color. Both slog 10 bit and standard 10 bit. I’m noticing an improvement in skin tones and green shift

[@SidneyDiongzon]

I think I will! It’s definitely slightly better than the A7SIII…

Hi, very interesting ! Preordered also. A question: is smallrig cage for A7SIII compatible ? Thanks

[@ismatec]

Excellent comparison! thanks a ton! I would get the sony a7IV as a second camera on video and to use it for wedding events in photography! Cheers, Isma

[@MrElliotElliot]

Hi! About rolling shutter. Got a Sony A7S2. Will the A74 be the same, worse or better? Thanks for a great video!

[@DarrenM]

Thank you. I’ve been pondering the a7 iv or the a7c and think this helped me decide the a7 iv.

[@garycheung331]

Taking photo & Video, A7iv or A7siii which camera would prefer to buy? Concern about that 12mp photo megapixel and 4K 60 crop difference?

[@redhotsonic]

I've seen that the A7IV has variable shutter in video mode where you can dial the shutter speed more precisely. This sounds hugely useful for me if I ever want to grab footage from a CRT TV. But does the A7SIII have this feature? I can't see anything online anywhere! With both cameras having their advantages and disadvantages, I'm torn which one to go for.

[@SidneyDiongzon]

I don’t think the A7SIII has it, at least not to me knowledge!

[@redhotsonic]

@@SidneyDiongzon - Thanks for the reply. That's a bummer as it's made my decision harder lol. If the A7IV didn't have a crop during 4K60, I'd be all over it (if I buy a full-frame, I want to use the full frame). I'll keep dwelling 😅

[@SammyandTommy]

We are debating upgrading between these two cameras 🤔 How is the A7iv lcd screen when filming outdoors vs the A7siii? Thanks Sydney!

[@SidneyDiongzon]

They’re both not very good haha. I just use the EVF when I’m filming outdoors

[@TannerBiggan]

Pre- ordered mine as well! Very excited

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Twinsies!

[@martinhermann]

Thanks for your great video! I've a question: What software do you use to edit the 10 bit 4K 4.2.2 videos of the A7 IV?

[@TimothyPounds]

Is there a converter that will allow me to use Nikon glass and still have autofocus? I’m thinking about jumping but don’t want sell all my lenses.

[@hoangthienle1]

Great infomation for this product

[@noxtrom]

The reason I got the A7IV over the A7SIII/FX3 is that the A7IV fixed the green-yellow roll-off everyone complained about (i.e. dslr shooter). The colors are better tuned than A1 or A7SIII/FX3 (According to G.U.) and in my own experience the colors are great

[@angelguzman2937]

Can you do touch screen move and zoom when reviewing photos on screen, not using dials? Thanks

[@MarkStCyr]

Focus breathing compensation check here: Pretty sure it doesn't fix it "regardless of what lens you use" and is only for approved lenses on a list Sony has. For example it doesn't fix breathing on the 50mm 2.5 G lens and the other G lenses of that size do not benefit from focus breathing compensation yet.

[@lianavibesfilm]

Great review! Very helpful 💯

[@gaza4543]

For me there’s a number of thing that would stop me or least make think twice from buying the a7iv. Rolling shutter as you say is a big one for me. The view finder resolution, buffer size, the shutter speed when shooting photos.10fps compared to 6 on the a7iv. The crop factors would annoy the hell out of me. As it stands if you don’t need the resolution the a7s3 is by far the more complete camera. A7s3 gets more right in my eyes. But they add stuff and take stuff away.

[@DankTech]

completely agree!

[@ajrc1987]

Do you know If its able to output clean hdmi signal of 10 bits?

[@theautomationchannel6920]

*_I got a7iv just today and i am looking for a cage...would tilta a7siii cage fit a7iv????_*

[@bluemesa5341]

Does it offer in-camera double exposure?

[@ShahbazAhmed]

Hey 👋 can we shoot 100fps at 1080p and at 10bit , not talking about s&q mode but rather if we can map custom button as the a7 III to 1 or 2 and that is shot at 10bit , please clarify as unable to find answer anywhere

[@davidaltizer]

Currently in the market for a new camera and you convinced me! Didn't know about the livestreaming capabilities! REALLY COOL!

[@SidneyDiongzon]

I LOVE THIS CAMERA!!!!

[@andreimicle]

Edit…after watching the entire video, I saw you touched upon the crop factor in 4k60. My initial comment was related to the crop mode section:)). Always better to be able to choose if you apply crop or not for video.

[@tannerphifer765]

okay, so is this camera able to wirelessly send the videos to my iphone? I want to start vlogging more. Would the files be too big to upload them from my phone? thanks!

[@ExploringWorldYouTube]

Hi, thanks to share your interesting video. I'd like to ask a question please: I make only documentaries in 4K around the world, I don't take Pics. I take interest about a good image quality of the video. I only shoot handheld footage and never use the tripod, does it have a good stabilizer? Do you suggest this Sony A7 IV camera for 4K videos? Thanks you.

[@silklion7375]

Would you prefere 4k60 with Super 35 but in 10bit 4:2:2 OR would you take 4k60 without a crop but in 8bit 4:2:0? I think I prefere the 10bit and take the crop and if I dont want it I just shoot in 1080p60 10bit 4:2:2 full frame.

[@SexkeksProducts]

I would just buy an a7siii, lol

[@CorporateVideosSeo]

can you change white balance while recording?

[@AuthenTech]

i like that new custom dial!

[@plus_eight8400]

I have a canon 5d mark3,need to add one for video. Which one should I pick?

[@strippedlist]

For any video this camera do you UHS ii 170MB writing it's enough V30

[@deepseadiver8191]

4.6x oversampling in crop mode? How? Can you explain?

[@AldrinSamson]

i think red in focus map is for foreground and blue is background. the one that doesn't have color map is focus? isn't it?

[@holdmyown32]

Yes, I believe you’re right.

[@DavidStella]

I’d be interested in seeing a review of the different creative look presets, if possible. 😄

[@wahidelm4033]

can you tell me plz about 120 fps in a74 is it HD or FHD?

[@scottlee4664]

If you like photo more than go for the a7iv. You can spend the extra 1000 on lens or m1 pro macbook. however s is the best for video. I may get a7iv if screen is decent since I don't use 4k 120 often. Also I think only the a7iv has beauty filter right? More Friendly for girls or save some times for editing lol

[@jwate]

I’m wonder what camera has the better 1080p. I’m selective what I film in 4K just for file sizes. Good video, surprised me to see the backlash you got in the comments.

[@macporteiro]

I didn't have time to watch all the video, just key features. But I loved what I saw, thanks a million for this video!

[@northparkfilms3045]

I'm surprised you never mentioned the overheating. A lot of the features seem nice but if it overheats then whats the point

[@umang9565]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Thanks for watching

[@NSRphotography15]

Small request information asking sir Sony a7iv 120 fps eye focus features ?

[@just_inhawaii]

Hope we get that color mapping and focus breathing comp. in the a7siii.

[@nubscrub]

Introducing: The Sony Alpha 7S IV

[@ColtCapperrune]

Good video, and loving all the F1 footage!

[@ircouple4]

is the new A7IV compatible with Capture one wired tether?

[@dowblab]

Is base iso something that manufacturers disclose? Googling the base iso of the A7IV seems to give me conflicting information

[@huyked]

5:54 I heard focus breathing compensation is not for any lens, just particular Sony lenses.

[@PurseyProductions]

Now I’m super confused.. I like the crop mode.. but I wish 4K 60 was in full frame. Do you think this would potentially be a firmware?

[@SidneyDiongzon]

No idea!

[@michaellim4165]

Nope. If Sony puts full frame 4k 60p on the a7iv, it would cannibalize sales from the a7s3.

[@alieazzy1631]

@sidney . Question - so 4k 60fps on alpha 7 IV is in super 35 mode (apsc mode) can you apply crop mode on the top and as well as clear image zoom?

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Good question! No, once in crop mode, there’s “double crop mode”

[@alieazzy1631]

@@SidneyDiongzon thanks

[@blukara7]

Where do you suggest to sell your cameras?

[@avarmadillo]

I love the A74. One of the easiest cameras to use I've ever owned. It's awesome.

[@jaymills1720]

Which one to get if image quality, color, and low light is what matters most

[@BrianTheCameraGuy]

I have totally pre-ordered the Sony a7iv. I have been waiting for this camera since the a7siii came out. a7siii is a lot of money and so is the a7iv but it is easier to stomach the a7iv price! I cannot wait to get this camera!!!

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Yeah, the price of the A7IV is way better!

[@viktor928]

Ooo yeah me too. I preordered it same day ..21st? 🤣 ugh can’t wait to get it

[@BrianTheCameraGuy]

@@viktor928 I am so pumped to get this camera. Is it perfect, no, but it is an upgrade for me so that makes me excited.

[@viktor928]

@@BrianTheCameraGuy me too. My Canon 70D and Nikon D750 are going on vacation 😂…soon. Great cameras served me well! The rolling shutter and crop 4k 60….does not affect my wedding hybrid work, neither shooting the compressed raw….

[@BrianTheCameraGuy]

@@viktor928 I would agree with you about both. Everyone makes a big deal about the cropped 4k but it will be some of the best cropped 4k that Sony has to offer. The 10 bit 4.2.2 is 100% got me. I am so done with 8 bit.

[@markomihailovic3020]

Isnt the crop factor on sony 1.5x and on the canon 1.6x ??

[@kevinkrause5798]

That’s what I thought too.

[@TLYRIDER]

So the used A7SIII are coming in at 2800 if so then new a7iv with 2500 or a7s3 with 28-29K

[@vi-dor]

Amazing video as usual, thanks a lot! Did you or someone tried the 4K 60p with the Ninja V, is it still only on the crop mode?

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Thanks! I haven't tried this with the Ninja V, but that's something I'd like to test out now!

[@vi-dor]

@@SidneyDiongzon I just realise that no one test it ;) (Please tell me it's working) Looking forward...

[@lightlinemedia5775]

That would be amazing 🤞

[@vi-dor]

Hi @@SidneyDiongzon, did you check it already maybe?

[@gortt7611]

I shoot in 4k 60fps so sticking with my A7SIII but would like more than 12Mb for stills! Hopefully gets replaced soon!

[@michaellim4165]

Don't count on it. It's been more than 5 years before the a7s3 came out. You'll be waiting for a while.

[@mikebanks4796]

Why are some of the reasons on this list exactly things that the a7siii has? 🤷‍♂️

[@ribe3434]

great review.

[@dkleong24]

a7siii + a7iv = 6355$, why not just get the Sony A1 at that point?

[@lIlIIllIIllIlIIIIl]

Does the rolling shutter problem is that big of a deal in this camera or in filmmaking ?

[@mirrorlessny]

yes a7iv has a big rolling shutter problem

[@kidblazer16]

ayyye another great video from michael scotts improv partner!

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Haha you caught it!

[@lxjilyfe]

I wish there will be a firmware to upgrade the A7SIII AF system in the near future. the A7SIII's AF is good when it can see human eyes, otherwise it sux.

[@mikemuponda1781]

I would only sell my a7siii so I can buy 2 a7ivs instead of my current combo an a7siii and a7iii which is difficult especially in post. Unfortunately I didn't have enough cash to get 2 x a7siii so 2 x a7ivs seems like the next best combo.

[@Blackriver69]

FYI. Focus map is Red (foreground, Blue (Background) and no color when in focus.

[@aaronmcfadden9253]

It would be great second camera as back up to my Sony A s 7 3. 4k 120 is life. I don't think I could replace it with this camera though.

[@PlanetPrince]

That's awesome Sid! yeah, plus it's $1k cheaper 😁but the crop mode at 4k60... 😌 they had to get us with something 😄 What picture profile are you now using with the a7IV?

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Still S-Log3!

[@OCAIOF]

I actually don't really mind the 4k 60p crop! In fact it's kind of a good thing to me, because the times I need to shoot 60p I usually use the sigma 18-35, which is a crop lens anyway! I'm very much happy that crop mode is also downsampled!

[@cbmuze1016]

Agreed. I know sony did this to keep the A7Siii appealing but there are so many ways around that crop. It's very hard for me to see that as a major fall back... Maybe the pixel police 😆.. Heck, even the 1080 on the A7IV looks crisp and modern. Whether it's good is subjective but this is far from a deal breaker for me also. ✊

[@huntstyle]

I don't mind it either, because I'm usually doing close-ups when shooting slow-mo.

[@benwonderfulmedia]

I hate any forced crops, just me though

[@Sqeedledee]

Huff that copiummmmmmmm

[@ikingauthor]

COLOR GRADE, COLOR GRADE, COLOR GRADE......... HELLL YEAH, CANT WAIT!!!!

[@HopeProphecy]

Great info! I'm thinking about joining team Sony. I mostly shoot talking head footage in 4k 30. I am debating between the a7IV and Cannon (R6?). My only hesitancy is that, side-by-side, the Cannon footage seems to have punchier, more vibrant colors and skin tones out of camera. However, colors look good in this video! Do you think that I can achieve Canon (or better) colors out of camera (without grading)? Thanks again!

[@mirrorlessny]

There's a good selection of picture profiles, settings of which can be adjusted in-camera to mimic or get close to a desired look. Most if not all modern brands/camera models have 4k30 just check for rec limits/overheating & availability of special gear that is helpful for your specific needs. What mics are you using for head footage? Lights?

[@BrodieReed]

Just be a bit careful with talking head if going the R6 route. It's currently my daily shooter and I do love it a LOT, however going into summer it is starting to overhead on longer interview shoots, usually last around an hour or so before it needs to be turned off and allowed to cool down for 5 or so minutes (This is even with the Atomos Ninja V recorder too..). I'd look elsewhere than the R6, possibly the EOS R if you plan on doing mainly talking head.

[@virginiagang-fotografie8668]

Ím thinking the Same… Not sure if i should buy the r6 or 7iv🙃

[@mirrorlessny]

@@virginiagang-fotografie8668 both are leading cameras & ecosystems, consider if you are doing heavy video, then R6 needs a closer look due to things like rec limit & possible overheating

[@travelneed3406]

Hello, loved your videos …I am new in photography and I want to make short cinematic videos , vlogs and also want to take some great pictures for property on airbnb …I want the camera which is good in both still pictures and videography …which one do you suggest if budget is between 3000-5000usd …can you recommend 2-3 options …I have shortlisted Sony A7 III / Sony A7 IV/ Sony A7R III / SONY A7S III

[@markshirley01]

Can you film in HD at 10 bit 422.

[@benwonderfulmedia]

The A7Siii is the perfect video camera imo it’s everything I ever wanted since I started being interested in using real cameras for video.

[@NVIK5]

So it seems you were unhappy with the 4k quality of the A7siii? Is the difference in sharpness that important to you? Honestly I find it sharp enough. Most of the features will come to the A7siii via a firmware update. If you cannot tell the difference between the HD 120 fps for the A7iv and 4k 120 A7siii does it not contradict your view on sharpness?

[@costinvaly1]

He’s really dumb, he’d take the shitty 1.5x crop from A7IV footage over uncropped A7sIII footage. He said he loves the crop and how it gives him the extra reach, but what happens when you shoot indoors in a tight space using a prime 24mm?? 🤣 he didn’t think of all the scenarios and being able to shoot ultra wide is important especially when you don’t know to expect when being booked to a particular event or wedding.

[@NVIK5]

@@costinvaly1 agreed, the 7siii destroys the IV as a video camera.

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Oh nooooo, I didn’t think about that!!!! What am I gonna do now?????

[@costinvaly1]

@@NVIK5 Yeah, he doesn't really have that much clue about what he's talking about, he kinda proved me that the main reason he's making youtube videos is to add fillers to his channel/content regardless of whether he documented what he's talking about prior to actual shooting or not. If Crop was a good thing then the Canon shooters wouldn't have bashed the 1.7!! crop in the 5D MkIV. If he's shooting sports exclusively then fine, enjoy the crop, but we also have to take everyone's real world usage in consideration that doesn't really welcome the crop in the majority of cases.

[@michaellim4165]

Sony and firmware....lol

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Sidney! a7iv would be attractive to me if it had active cooling. . . 💨

[@Teknochi]

mantap .... dua dua nya kamera yang sangat bagus.... 👍👍👍👍

[@TuckerPearce]

Sidney great video. I like my tiny A7C, with the small rig cage it feels fine in my big hands! 🤣 But I get your point it’s small.

[@Jonathantuba]

I have the A7C with the small rig cage. A lot more comfortable to hold. I have ordered the A7iv and have not yet decided if to exchange the A7C or keep as a second body

[@davincisace9059]

Does the this camera need a new extended battery grip or Des the existing one from sony work?

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Good question! I’ll have to look into that!

[@anthonyc1883]

Same as the A1, A9II, A7Siii.

[@JulietUzor_]

Please could you Vlog the selling process? Edit: well… now I know the outcome of your decision, please still Vlog any gear selling process?

[@LouisLuzuka]

4k15 vs 1080p 60 for live stream recording, hmm u got me thinking about things..

[@tcharckwanz381]

This video is Aaaaamazing 💝

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Glad this was helpful!

[@tcharckwanz381]

Of course @@SidneyDiongzon why aren't you sharing on your Facebook group anymore?

[@SHANECAIRN]

Not to be a pain but at Time code 10:28 you say that the a74 has a bigger grip but your pointing at the a7s3..

[@deepseadiver8191]

A7sIII also has a fully articulated screen, I don’t get the point about it being the reason you’d favor A7 IV.

[@dalejones146]

I thought crop mode on Sonys was 1.5 not 1.6???

[@ainnelrosirrosias3338]

Doesn't Sony A7s3 also have active stabilizaiton?

[@mirrorlessny]

yep, a7iv/a7S3/FX3/A1 all have same active ibis which is a big improvement over standard ibis

[@alastairman1223]

How's editing with the a7iv footage? Is is smoother or harder to edit than the a7s3?

[@SidneyDiongzon]

Great actually!

[@TyroneLT]

Woud it not be the same? Isn't it using the same codecs?

[@WargodFilms]

@@TyroneLT don't think so plus I believe a7s have higher bitrate as well which the a74 still at a 100. I could be wrong

[@muen1842]

@@WargodFilms This was the case with the A7III, but the A7IV records up to 600 mbps ALL-I 4k60 now. Codecs are vastly improved from 100 mbps XAVC-S LONG GOP!

[@Arelaxedguy]

It’s a no brainer for Hybrid shooters… if you’re a video shooter, docs, podcasts professional environment…fx3 all the way. I’d rather have the higher quality photos. 😎 while not loosing much on the video end. Great video 😎

[@BespokeFotografie]

my A7IV will arrive soon I can't wait.

[@Bobsmithabc]

Do you have a video about your camera settings for vloging? Like how to make sure the exposure and focus is good when you're shooting yourself. Thanks!

[@SidneyDiongzon]

I sure do! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJPWamVsorCoadU