Senator Canavan on Australia's failed vaping policy 1June2023

"The prescription model that was introduced in 2020 on any metric has to be noted as a massive failure.
Why should we have any faith that the same people that were totally wrong about 2020 reforms would be right about the 2023 reforms?
I said at the time it would lead to a massive growth in the black market.
Maybe this will be taught in future lessons how not to create policy because I would have thought that before making a major policy decision in Australia that good policy practices would mean looking at other similar, models around the world, such as NZ. How can you justify not doing that basic work before a gov makes a serious decision here?
We tried to crack down on the black market with a prescription model. A total failure. We have had an increase in youth [18-24] vaping from 5-25%, and we are just incentivising it again
This is an absolute failure of public policy which I predict will only lead to further failure"
[Note: ends at 10 mins]

[@birdman_69]

You have to love Senator Canavan. Doubling down on a failed system is ludicrous

[@toms4097]

Agree with you birdy, ha he gave them some. “Your last idea didn’t work, why will this ?” Seems ok this Canavan! 👍🏻

[@kenheffernan1610]

Could we please get more people like Senator Canavan involved in some kind of vaping policies. This is what happens when you make policies on FEELINGS rather than evidence based policies. The fact that you have a 5 fold increase in youth vaping since a prescription model was introduced & you want to double down on what is not working.

[@broonysaint]

Hell yeah, more Senator Canavan's are needed here, now!

[@intensecutn]

No, this is when you make policy based on corruption.

[@stuartvalentine7913]

deflect ,deflect deflect. If i was as incompetent at my job to the level of this "TEAM" . i would not have a job . And they are dealing with the health of millions of Australia.

[@sonnycoasta]

We’ll take that on notice

[@broonysaint]

​@@sonnycoasta 😂

[@broonysaint]

This has become my go to, when I need cheering up

[@FA-RACE-TEAM]

Colin: It looks like it is time to fire some Oz bureaucrats and to start some litigation for failed public policy!

[@tigerraven]

New Zealand has an amazing vaping program which I think needs to be implemented in Australia

[@tigerraven]

The government needs to listen to this senator I would definitely vote for him he gets things moving and cuts to the chase.

[@Toey69]

Wow a senator that lives in reality! Nice work senator canavan ,pointing out doubling down on failed policy & the promotion of the black market. Nic vapes shouldn’t be available to kids but it’s the most effective way for adults to give up smoking. I get the feeling tobacco & pharmaceutical companies greed could be behind the scenes pushing for Nic vape bans in Australia. Poor decisions here will cost Australian lives. I vape & I vote as do many other Aussie adults.

[@TheHoodmailbox]

😊

[@SlackFX.channel]

One of the few people talking sense about this issue, good on Matt.

[@RedBarron14]

Finally someone with a level head open mind and common sense. We need these people like Senator Canavan. The Mark Butler approach is full of contempt.

[@Toby_iVapour]

I love the phrase he uses - "It seems very strange that we double-down on failure like that, a massive failure too!" 3:46

[@samanthabarratt7518]

Don't they just waffle! Thanks Matt for being a straight forward pollie

[@John-jd8vx]

Canavan did a wonderful job. I hope other governments are watching.

[@geoffreytyson5673]

I couldn’t agree more

[@tigerraven]

Oooo I think the health minister is in trouble

[@martinsowle6739]

So kids are vaping 95% safer ecigs rather than smoking. I csll that a win.

[@bee669]

Talk to Belgium who had a pharmacy/medical model from 2013 - 2016 which was abandoned for a consumer retail model as it did not work. Australia cannot claim a 'world leading' position in this context. Doubling down on failure is a terrible strategy. The committee seems to have absolutely no idea what is happening on the ground.

[@michelleelliott2882]

Finally, some common sence!👏👏

[@broonysaint]

That poor woman, in red, was thrown under the bus and making false statements

[@irishology]

2:52 Difficult to trace my ass they are not enforcing the law so kids can buy disposable vapes on every street corner. Professor Murphy there is an easy choice here Regulate the industry as a consumer good with a robust framework of checking and enforcement

[@SLOTHO-kq6hh]

Love ya work matt!

[@williamJohanns436]

Haha this guy is good. The facts in your face😂

[@h-palbrecht2978]

Someone got grilled here (Watching from GER, We got asomewhat reasonable regulation for legal, recreational vaping(EU TPD, wirh a "side-effect of getting pps. off cigs effectively no prescription model - luckily ...

[@surflad1]

Just thought I would mention the video appears to cut out to a black screen at 10min & 11sec, though it shows as having a run time of 23min & 18sec. Not sure if it's just me or if the video needs to be reuploaded. Anyhow thanks for uploading. It was a good take from Senator Canavan from what I watched & I hope common sense prevails eventually.

[@drcolinmendelsohn]

Thanks for letting me know. Senator Canavan's section questions are only 10 minutes. The rest is blank. I have trimmed it now so the video stops there.

[@surflad1]

@Colin Mendelsohn Thanks for your reply & so much more. It is appreciated. 🙏

[@toriwatson9655]

Must be frustrating for Senator Carnarvon talking to those morons. NZ is using vaping as part of a master plan to eradicate smoking, Australia seems to be determined to push vapers back on to cigarettes. It's hard to comprehend.

[@mjhaslberger]

And what are the rates of smoking in that age range? Vaping is safer and cheaper. Its a no brainer.

[@cactusjohn9145]

Can we get Matt into the Lower House ? This Member is lucid and effective. Natural, too .... that's hard to come by.

[@pymats]

the women in red has arms crossed, a typical defence pose

[@Larkful_Dodger]

Professor Murphy has no idea, the vapes tested are not regulated. They are illegally imported. Most vapers are not using prescription vaping products, rather they are consuming illegal imports. The more these imports brought in, the more access children have of them being sold by unscrupulous sellers. Making regulated, tested vapes legal without a prescription and available at supermarkets and convenience stores would disincentivise illegal vape imports, thereby limiting supply to children.

[@pymats]

anyone with half a brain knows this, but these idiots dont want to know as its all about the $$$$$$ the fed govt stand to lose when smokers swap to vaping, what else could it be? $$$$$ before health

[@waynejones8039]

It’s a shallow view that Chinese imports and greedy retailers haven’t driven the black market and that somehow the prescription model forced illegal retailers to sell illegal products. Incredible assumptions

[@timdoherty101]

Fine, but if so, you can't maintain it is a plot by "big tobacco" to recruit a generation of smokers (the speciousness of the "gateway" hypothesis being another matter).

[@westsyd27]

Please reupload as half is missing.

[@MrDavies2006]

What happened to the other half of the discussion? It cuts out.

[@chrishanghofer2577]

😂