Sending our 80’s Barn Find Kawasaki KX80 2 Stroke Dirt Bike

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Жыл бұрын

We bought three Kawasaki KX80 2 stroke dirt bikes in boxes, and we were able to put one together and ride it! In today's video we send the dirt bike around the CarsandCameras Grand Prix
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@steveb3877
@steveb3877 Жыл бұрын
Cars and cameras, acquirers actual dirt bike, is impressed by how good actual dirt bike is at dirt biking. Nodding my head silently.
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras Жыл бұрын
lol it only took us 7 years to discover
@dvscustoms
@dvscustoms Жыл бұрын
@@CarsandCameras worth the wait
@nomasker1360
@nomasker1360 Ай бұрын
Now try a newer 125 , 250 and 500 2 Strk
@fillg
@fillg Жыл бұрын
I totally respect you guys for being willing to admit when something is out of your comfort zone or just too much for you and then not do it. 👍
@cavemanvi
@cavemanvi Жыл бұрын
I respect that John fits that thing cause he's built like a 12 year old lolllll
@spagamoto
@spagamoto Жыл бұрын
100%. Sign of maturity.
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv Жыл бұрын
It's not like we couldn't already tell that they're scared of the kx80. They look so sketchy on it. Especially, Ike, he looks like he has to go poop when trying to burn the tire, lol.
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras Жыл бұрын
gotta know your limits in this line of work!
@lukecombs5242
@lukecombs5242 Жыл бұрын
@@CarsandCameras if you keep the bike complete have the shocks rebuilt by a professional that’s why it’s so bouncy they are blown and get stiffer springs and on 2strokes if the head pipe has any dents or cracks in it that will affect the powerband and I’d definitely pick up the correct air filter for it those little 80s pack a big punch that’s for sure they have a nasty power band be safe and keep ripping practice makes habit keep riding it and before you know you will be able to rip it hard. 🤙🏻
@jimmywhitlow2012
@jimmywhitlow2012 Жыл бұрын
When riding 2 strokes, you have to shift more to stay in it. When exiting a corner, there should be no bog, you have to downshift to stay in the power. It takes time to learn to ride these bikes, but once you do, you won't want anything else .😉 stay safe and have fun guys.
@thomashubbard4720
@thomashubbard4720 Жыл бұрын
yeah i agree they have alot of riding and learning to do but yes they should 100% be down shifting at turns i do think once they get over there fear of it they will be fine i spent most of my childhood outrunning the baltimore md police on kx cr and yz 80 you guys will destroy those times with more seat time and just watching the video there were definetly sections where you guys could have stayed in it alot longer then what you did get use to letting that back tire come out and start sliding around those turns and you guys will kill that leader board
@craiggiles8156
@craiggiles8156 Жыл бұрын
Ride the clutch to keep the power valve wide open. A short 2 finger clutch lever is a must on a 2 stroke.
@bustinyanutz4195
@bustinyanutz4195 Жыл бұрын
You're right on small strokes but if you're riding a CR 500 or KX 500 they have lots of bottom end, I'm 49 yrs old and I've been riding and racing 2 strokes since I was 10 in 1985 and you're right once you learn to ride a 2 stroke you'll never want another 4 stroke if you're an adrenaline junkie like me
@mattyoung2880
@mattyoung2880 Жыл бұрын
That’s right you need to just ring its neck all day !!!
@LeadfootOnline
@LeadfootOnline Жыл бұрын
@@craiggiles8156 This right here.. Clutch control is how you manage the powerband through corners.
@funnyfudgeman16
@funnyfudgeman16 Жыл бұрын
This engine in a trail 70 would be insane!
@dabrandi
@dabrandi Жыл бұрын
I agree
@budgetbasswilson3866
@budgetbasswilson3866 Жыл бұрын
Careful on the engine braking guys… that’s not a 4 stroke lol.. when the carb slide is at idle and you let the bike still roll and the rpm’s hang like that.. it’s not sending enough fuel mix into the engine for that rpm. Just a lil warning.. pull the clutch in while slowing down.. it’ll definitely cut down on piston wear and heat cuz it runs extremely lean when you engine brake and that also causes heat.
@alexcrafter_
@alexcrafter_ Жыл бұрын
It wont instantly destroy it. I agree it will wear it down but so little. It will only destroy it if done on a highway at high rpms. They wont produce heat as engine braking shuts off most of the fuel entry and as there is not much to explode barely produces heat. *No hating just sayin* lol
@jacobpomelow7481
@jacobpomelow7481 Жыл бұрын
What he said
@16driver16
@16driver16 Жыл бұрын
Whether it's got an auto oiler or not makes a difference
@chestermcgillicuddy4368
@chestermcgillicuddy4368 Жыл бұрын
They are grown men with zero racing experience playing around on a clapped out 80. And having a blast at that! It's ok!
@laurentiudinca9606
@laurentiudinca9606 Жыл бұрын
That's a good point. I think it applies mostly for long distances. If you were to go down a long hill, I don't think it'd be recommended. But yeah, I'd avoid doing it just to increase the longevity of those parts inside.
@SaltedSeeder
@SaltedSeeder Жыл бұрын
This is why I just can’t give up my 2 strokes. One thing is that they sound/feel like you’re moving faster than you really are. That’s why I think you got those numbers too. 2stroke4ever 👊🏼
@ghomerhust
@ghomerhust Жыл бұрын
theres just something about RING PING PING noises, right? and that smell
@SaltedSeeder
@SaltedSeeder Жыл бұрын
@@ghomerhust yes exactly! haha now they make strawberry scented 2 stroke oil 👊🏼
@DGPG35
@DGPG35 Жыл бұрын
I owned a KX80 from the age of 14 to 16 and it was one of my favorite dirt bike experiences, I had so much fun on that bike because I could toss it about and give it full throttle at will.
@cheesynuts4291
@cheesynuts4291 Жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine had a late 80’s KX80. It was insane. It would stand wheelies with a 175 lbs guy sitting on it. Real fast bike.
@jamadeus13
@jamadeus13 Жыл бұрын
My first bike when I was 12 was a KX80, man that thing was insane, at that age too. Later on I swapped to a 100cc in it, crazy little bike.
@ctvxl
@ctvxl Жыл бұрын
Those little 80cc 2 strokes are hard to beat for pure fun factor. My personal favorite was the old Honda CR125 though. Just the right balance of power, weight, and size for just having fun. I used to have an old Elsinore 250 that was a rocket ship compared to the CR125. I loved the Elsinore, but I rode the 125 WAY more often. My cousin had a Yamaha 80cc, and I used to ride the snot out of that also. It was really fun because you can just throw it around so easily...
@theliberalrepublican5910
@theliberalrepublican5910 Жыл бұрын
So good to see you discover the joy of a hot 2 smoke coming on the pipe and showing you what REAL power is!
@Jonsellscoolstuff
@Jonsellscoolstuff Жыл бұрын
You really need some banked/ berms rutted up so you can hold it wide open out of the turns. That thing is sick!
@jackarmstrong608
@jackarmstrong608 Жыл бұрын
You can fix the “bouncy” feeling by changing the front fork “air” and oil weight ….. the rear shock has some “rate” adjustment for feel!!! You guys rock !!! 👍👍👍👍
@_zzpza
@_zzpza Жыл бұрын
I don't think there's any oil left in the forks!
@glenpiro313
@glenpiro313 Жыл бұрын
@@_zzpza Or the shock!!
@yomomlikesgangbangs5106
@yomomlikesgangbangs5106 Жыл бұрын
Forks /shocks don’t use air lol just cause there a air nipple Didn’t mean it takes air 😂 they use nitrogen
@RealKlausSchwab
@RealKlausSchwab Жыл бұрын
@@yomomlikesgangbangs5106 My mom does like gangbangs..... Wonder how she's been?
@chrisreed5849
@chrisreed5849 Жыл бұрын
They could fix the forks and shock or just swap them
@jonnybgood1079
@jonnybgood1079 Жыл бұрын
To clean your needle and seat use a Q-tip in a drill with some valve lapping compound. Use the fine stuff. It will make your seat like brand new. The rest of the car just put in the ultrasonic cleaner and blow it out with brake clean. As a small engine mechanic I have done this for years and it works great.
@upperroomtoo
@upperroomtoo Жыл бұрын
I am reminiscing about riding a YZ100 back in 82'. That thing would stand up in the first 4 gears and then you still had two more to go. It was a rocket ship for a 15yo 150lb kid.
@danw1955
@danw1955 Жыл бұрын
That engine would be nuts on a Trail 70, but you'd probably have to get some longer rear shocks for it, if you don't want to compress all your lower vertebrae..🤣The Harley is just too much weight and you'd overheat/blow it in short order.😜 Like others have said, pull that clutch when you're coasting to keep it from wearing the rings and bottom end prematurely. Those little high output 2 strokers are pretty sensitive about that.😉 Personally, I would try to salvage one of the other KX frames, and have a pair of little rippers, even if you have to buy some extra parts!👍
@davolbc
@davolbc Жыл бұрын
Agreed, if you're not on the gas you're on the clutch and making sure you are in the right gear otherwise that motor is going to go quick. And I also agree but I'm going to take it a step further that not only two of those little rippers but they should take off three of those frames and try and keep them as original as possible wouldn't it be amazing to see three of those in their shop lined up so whenever they all three want to go out and tear up something they can maybe even a race definitely even a race lol. Love jumping them also so learn it will make it much easier on all your other projects because if you can handle a dirt bike all these other projects will be a piece of cake.
@speedyme200
@speedyme200 Жыл бұрын
Will even the stock clutches on the KX80 hold up to and pull the weight of the Harley
@christopherehendrick
@christopherehendrick Жыл бұрын
I felt so much better after you installed the front brake lever. Safety third!
@budgetbasswilson3866
@budgetbasswilson3866 Жыл бұрын
Suspension is bouncy because one your too heavy for it and 2 I bet it is blown out lol.. when you push down on the seat it should come back up softly.. if it snaps or springs back up then yeah it’s clapped out and need suspension work.
@freshbrad1354
@freshbrad1354 Жыл бұрын
My first dirt bike was a Honda XR-80. I was 11-12 yrs old, and I thought I was a badass. My cousin had a KX-80 and we swapped bikes before a trail ride....that two stroke Kawasaki scared the shit outta me as a kid.
@darellsimons2687
@darellsimons2687 Жыл бұрын
When you feel the vibration calm down after the power band kicks in what a feeling
@Slane583
@Slane583 Жыл бұрын
This right here is why I want to get my vintage YZ 465 rebuilt and put back together. But I don't have a shop or space for doing any work to it. So it lives at my friends house in pieces until I have a place to put it. The big two-stroke bikes don't have to pegged and revved out like the small displacement ones to get the power down. :)
@jolla9963
@jolla9963 Жыл бұрын
This has inspired me to get my IT 465 out, dusted off, and riding again. It has been a long time since she was retired to the backmof the garage. But she is still there for the reason itnwas an exciting bike, both on road and off.
@Slane583
@Slane583 Жыл бұрын
@@jolla9963 I bought my YZ off of my younger brother as a project. So it was already taken apart and in boxes when I got it sad to say. So it's missing some stuff which I have no problems searching for. But I literally have no place to work on it and store it at my house. So it's been sitting at a friends untouched since I got it.
@davethemanpicton
@davethemanpicton Жыл бұрын
Get new carbon reeds for the carb makes the power band even more mental. I had a kmx 125, 31hp, in UK we love the 80cc and 125cc. They are great, the expansion pipe is needed so don't mess with it. Can up jet the carbs etc when u do the uprated reads. Will make it even more of an animal
@davethemanpicton
@davethemanpicton Жыл бұрын
Also remove air box and put a small cone filter wink
@Slane583
@Slane583 Жыл бұрын
@@barryallen6293 No they're not. Boysen Power Reeds are dual-rate fiberglass reeds. I had some in my Yamaha Blaster back in high school. He's talking about V-Force reeds that are made of carbon fiber.
@IamBATMAN2024
@IamBATMAN2024 Жыл бұрын
@@davethemanpicton bad idea 2 strokes need the airbox and there’s no way your kmx125 was 31hp lol that’s nearly as powerful as a proper 125cc mx of today. I’ve had Dtr’s and they’re faster than kmx 125’s and they’re not 30hp
@Spodeboy
@Spodeboy Жыл бұрын
I rode a 1982 KX 80 back in the day. It was air cooled with drum brakes. That powerband was awesome! It will cause people to loop out and land on their butts! Make sure you lean forward. I'm guessing by the color scheme, liquid cooled engine, and front disk brakes that your model is probably from 1985.
@memorris2
@memorris2 Жыл бұрын
You guys are so trained for no shifting and no 2strokes. I grew up on old motocross 80s, and it is a true skill to use that motor and be fast. Mine didnt even have brakes at all and i learned how to really ride.
@rastaralph7154
@rastaralph7154 Жыл бұрын
Gotta keep it in the band through the gears!. I used to have a fully tuned with drilled jet and ground exhaust port and skimmed head Kawasaki AR125 and you couldn't set off in first and wind on without having to tank it to keep the front wheel down! ❤️💛💚😂
@discingaround
@discingaround Жыл бұрын
The boys are at it again! That's one SWEET ole Kawasaki!
@79tazman
@79tazman Жыл бұрын
I grew up on 2 stroke dirt bikes that's where I got many of my scares on my legs from and arms LOL!! 2 Stroke dirt bikes are awesome.
@pandemicpewpew3296
@pandemicpewpew3296 6 ай бұрын
I raced motocross when I was a kid up to my 20's. The 1986 KX80 G1 was a game changer in the day and I was always out front! Such a good bike! I remember everyone thinking it was weird that KX was printed on the top side back of the seat lol.
@brianz367
@brianz367 Жыл бұрын
Ike is right about staying in the power band. John you killed your lap at the end, from the creek on. Great content as always. Love to you see you guys keep practicing and grab the top spot!
@RebelGoatFPV
@RebelGoatFPV Жыл бұрын
Love your videos, great reactions to the bike! Those bouncy shocks and forks definitely need rebuilt and/or tuned. The 80/85cc bikes are pipey for sure, got to work the clutch and gears, next up 250cc two stroke MX'rs. They pull hard in the midrange and hit even harder on the pipe! Just to mention as well, stay in the power when you hit a jump, if you let up on the lip you endo. If you need to lift the nose in the air hit the throttle, if you need to dip the nose tap the rear brake.
@mrbriancnc
@mrbriancnc Жыл бұрын
Now I understand why my parents never got me a dirt bike when I was a kid. Wicked fast. Stay safe on that thing fellers. Love the content.
@EdGunge
@EdGunge Жыл бұрын
Had one of these as a kid, living on a farm it was great! Waaaaay too much bike for a kid and the neighbouring villages could hear it for miles. Pure chaos and danger fun, great to see you dudes appreciate the true nature of this beast. It’ll be fine!
@El_Chompo
@El_Chompo Жыл бұрын
Wow John, for someone without much dirt bike experience and riding one with blown shocks, your jumping form looked very good! But good call on staying in your comfort zone. The last time I pushed out of my comfort zone on a kx80 I hit a tree and luckily enough only got a scar on my leg to remember it by.
@lesterntomson4988
@lesterntomson4988 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. I saved up for my 1991 kx 80, big wheel, non arena exhaust ,ya it was a thing, through odd jobs at 13. It took awhile at $ 1,300 brand new. The "power band" is just the way we rolled... loved hanging out with 4 stroke guys. I think I will get it out and give it a rip.
@crackedthieves
@crackedthieves Жыл бұрын
$1300 new is cheap
@ellisberry8747
@ellisberry8747 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to view a kx85 2011 this weekend. I’m 18. I’ve wanted a real dirt bike for literally my entire life. Feels good man
@jamiestaylorsr8869
@jamiestaylorsr8869 Жыл бұрын
Guys, I've never riden KX80. But I know that it's like it's bigger brothers the KX125 And KX250. I have rode the KX125 and it's a hoss, no doubt. These very strong 2 stroke bikes HAVE to be ridden in the power band. Being used to the bike is very important to get good times. Understand that these are the same bikes that are used in the race circuit. So staying in the power band is very important for performance. Being on the track, up and down hills, hitting jumps, it's very crucial that you are in the power band. Watch a couple videos and see the guys gassing hard and staying in the band. I do know from experience that if you just ride, like a 4 stroke, you will be changing the plug all the time from fouling the plug. Thanks guys and keep up the awesome work. Keep making great videos.
@keithcarr5736
@keithcarr5736 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the 2 stroke world. Loving the content. Please please please get some mx boots.
@arran951
@arran951 Жыл бұрын
Awsome video guys but looks like your rear shock needs a rebuild it looks really bouncy that'll be why it'll be ten times safer when thsts fixed 👍
@cxbra
@cxbra Жыл бұрын
I have a Chinese pitbike (Honda XR70 clone) with a CR85 motor on it.. but its technically 102cc with the big bore kit thats on it. It has a fully balanced crank, big bore, FMF fatty pipe, Pro Circuit silencer, ported and everything. The pitbike chassis has all billet upgraded parts too. INSANE build especially for the price I bought it for! I got it for a fraction of the price of what the motor sells for on ebay (especially since its a Honda CR). Its wild with the balanced crank because there are ZERO vibrations, whoever built it did it right. I'm looking at a Suzuki JR80 on Craigslist with a CR85 swap on it, but I dont have the cash for it hahahaha.
@derrickphillips6607
@derrickphillips6607 Жыл бұрын
Ike out there tearing it up...💥💥💪💪
@jacobscroggs7079
@jacobscroggs7079 Жыл бұрын
Dude, put that motor on a trail 70. I would love to see that
@jamesmcgee9279
@jamesmcgee9279 Жыл бұрын
Lower your profile while going into turns. Do the following on the inside of your turns. By leaning inward and extending your leg out and forward at the beginning of the turn will help your stability while exiting the turn. Snap the throttle while exiting to maintain some of your powerband. Immediately resume throttle as you start to straighten up. You can practice this maneuver riding in circles. Then, go into a figure eight to get comfortable with turning both ways. You get this down, I'll bet you obliterate your fastest lap time.
@chrisbee4702
@chrisbee4702 Жыл бұрын
Great seeing guys discovering dirt bikes.
@neilstandish455
@neilstandish455 Жыл бұрын
You really don't need the clutch to change up. Right revs and a blip on the throttle. Love to see you guys on its 259 big brother 😱
@garrettblaster
@garrettblaster Жыл бұрын
I had a kx80 at 8 and a kx125 at 12 so for me mini biking was never fun I was so use to serious power
@garageofscrap
@garageofscrap Жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you know this, but with 2 strokes, provided you tune it correctly you actually get more power by running a more oil heavy mixture as the extra oil boosts compression slightly, and having extra oil allows for a slightly leaner mixture. It also slows down your piston, rings, and cylinder wear
@robspear03
@robspear03 Жыл бұрын
@@burtronomaniac When in doubt, 20:1.
@adamr9215
@adamr9215 Жыл бұрын
When you add more oil to the mix, you are displacing fuel, therefore creating a lean mixture. Running lean makes more power, but it is a good way to seize an engine. The oil isnt part of your fuel/air mixture, but too much replaces fuel making the engine run lean. FYI, having the piston top flooded with oil would lead to hydrolocking the engine, plus the excessive oil can keep the fuel from igniting, and shutting the engine off. Your advice is absolutely insane and you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone.
@garageofscrap
@garageofscrap Жыл бұрын
@@adamr9215 the oil burns as part of the fuel. It doesn’t just enter the engine and then magically separate and sit there. Also, there have been actual tests done that proved higher levels of oil in the fuel can help with performance. Essentially the testing showed that a 15:1 mixture made 15.7% more power than a 30:1 mixture, and also reduced piston and cylinder wear. It is also worth noting that the oilier mixture did not foul the spark plug, although that would be affected by incorrect tuning Source: www.bridgestonemotorcycle.com/documents/oilpremix6.pdf
@adamr9215
@adamr9215 Жыл бұрын
@@garageofscrap The oil does burn off, but it doesn’t burn like gas and it displaces fuel that should be burning. You can run more oil, but you have to jet it out to allow more fuel to replace what was displaced by oil. You still need the same amount of fuel getting into the engine, no matter how much oil is being mixed in. Your source is flawed. There are literally dozens of tests out there that prove the opposite. They are testing their special oil, not all 2 stroke oils. There is a 100-1 mix oil that is one of the best performing oils on the market, but you have to jet down for it, or retune your efi engine. All major 2 stroke manufacturers, that all did extensive testing, all recommend 50-1 mix, not the outdated 32-1 mix. So, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Suszuki all day that test is wrong. KTM too, they used to recommend the 100-1 oil second to their own brand mixed at 50-1. FYI, in a 2 stroke, the fuel/oil mix goes through the crankcase so that the oil can separate from the fuel and coat the bearings. The heat in the engine helps vaporize the fuel, but the thicker oil not vaporize and will do it’s job lubricating the internals. It doesn’t lube the piston from being in the air/fuel mix and burning, it lubes the piston because the crank flings it into the bottom of the cylinder.
@garageofscrap
@garageofscrap Жыл бұрын
@@adamr9215 I’m not suggesting to run every oil at 15:1, I’m saying that while a lot of people believe a higher than recommended ratio will provide more power, it’s actually the opposite and you are better off running the recommended ratio, or even more oil than recommended. While you may need the same volume of fuel entering the engine, with a carburetted bike the different viscosity’s of different ratio fuel mixes will alter the amount that is sucked through the jet at the same vacuum signal, so a bike tuned correctly for a 30:1 ratio for example would pull a different amount of fuel mix through the same jet if the ratio was 15:1, which would lead to a different amount of fuel in the engine. MatthewMCrepair has a great video explaining both my points about running more oil, and having to adjust jetting for different ratios. His video is actually titled something like more oil = more power
@dabtech7456
@dabtech7456 Жыл бұрын
It's whole new feeling riding something in the dirt that was made for the dirt
@WreckedRevival
@WreckedRevival Жыл бұрын
Yasss so happy to see a Cars & cameras vid on the feed after a long day in the shop, especially this little beast. P.S. It seems rich on the idle-1/4 throttle circuit. Lean bog will just feel/sound like it's going to die and Rich bog will sputter/stutter and might clear up with rpm. Lot of potentials for being rich I always start with the carb tuning. The needle clip position (SEA LEVEL) start with 3rd tick down (may vary with main jet and needle taper if not a stock needle) , check/set float level height, compare main & pilot jets to stock, back out air screw 1 1/2 turns as a base starting point (any more than 3 turns out on pilot you need to go down on the pilot jet size or float height may be incorrect , more than 1 turn in then up pilot jet size) then back out idle screw & tune from there (left is leaner, right is richer (opposite of four strokes)). If it can't be tuned out it's time to start checking crankcase seals, intake boots, and reed condition. I typically go a tad rich with 2 stroke tunes incase of a gasket/seal or intake boot failure (quick lean condition). Better a plug than burning up the top end.😎🤙 P.s.s. Been riding 2 stroke dirt bikes since my first one at 10 (23 years ago) so if you ever need a guy to come properly rip on one, my business email is on my page. 🤘
@GooseGosselin
@GooseGosselin Жыл бұрын
Nice work getting it running so well! I'm assuming it's one of the other engines that will be going onto the new project? I kinda wanna see it on the Trail 70 to make a Hondasaki. The newsletter should be cool to, thank you gentlemen!
@arthurhackman3229
@arthurhackman3229 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys i'm sure you already thought of this but a shiftercart would be best use of one of your KX 80 engine !
@daltonwurster32
@daltonwurster32 Жыл бұрын
Watching this brings back so many memories of my first dirt bike which was a kx85 and it was an absolute ripper and a blast so nostalgic thanks guys
@DaveHiggoHiggins
@DaveHiggoHiggins Жыл бұрын
Childhood memories right there. SO much when you're kid (and kid at heart). Seems to be the perfect size for John.
@jackarmstrong608
@jackarmstrong608 Жыл бұрын
Also a note, mentioned before; 2 strokes oil themselves when you are on the “gas”!!!! Idling for any time at all can starve your bearings when the engine is hot!! Put it in neutral, and roll the throttle up(not full, just open), then let it close, and repeat while “idling”, or sitting! It will smoke when you do this , which proves you are oiling the motor! 32:1 mix for synthetic, or 20:1 for “Castrol natural” which smells great when it burns!!! Lol
@rcchallenge8626
@rcchallenge8626 Жыл бұрын
Definitely needs a shock rebuild, I’ve seen guys twice Hanks size ride the Kawasaki 85cc and send it over jumps etc. also you need to stop all the engine breaking your doing, you’ll burn out your rings in no time because of a lack of fuel break hard into bends pull the clutch keep your revs up and let fly as you come out the turn on flat otherwise pin it through the burms great vid chaps get that shock done she will feel 100 times safer
@adamr9215
@adamr9215 Жыл бұрын
Engine braking doesn’t damage a 2 stroke. That’s a myth that was disproven decades ago. These engines are designed to get a new top end every 10-20 hours or running. It’s very soft piston rings that seal well but don’t last, and if they wear too much they will chatter and destroy the cylinder. Engine braking doesn’t hurt them at all. If anything it helps because it’s removing heat from the engine.
@eugenesbackyardrepair4593
@eugenesbackyardrepair4593 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys make sure to check the mail. You should now have all the cool color fuel lines now. Small gift for all your great builds you share with us. Love the kx80 and John at least you tried it out because they are fun.
@jacobbradley1481
@jacobbradley1481 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, just wanted to say thank you for the stickers today( the guy in the safety yellow). Nice seeing you guys, thanks👌
@dustinmiller7278
@dustinmiller7278 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure y'all already know this but you never want to hold a two-stroke at a single RPM for too long it will harm the engine so that constantly modulating the throttle is the best thing to do on a two-stroke
@azertyytreza8947
@azertyytreza8947 Жыл бұрын
Why not? I see no problem to do so on a properly tuned engine?
@tacticalidiot175
@tacticalidiot175 Жыл бұрын
@@azertyytreza8947 it would get very little oil at low rpm because the oil is in the fuel. These were made for flooring 100% of the time, which is why cars use 4 strokes, and those with 2 strokes have an oil pressure system.
@dustinmiller7278
@dustinmiller7278 Жыл бұрын
@@tacticalidiot175 actually it has to do with floating the Piston inside of the motor from overheating cuz there is no oil in the motor it only has its oil in the fuel so if you hold a two-stroke at over 75% throttle for more than 15 to 30 seconds you will start to destroy the piston and rings
@dustinmiller7278
@dustinmiller7278 Жыл бұрын
@@tacticalidiot175 this is why you never see anyone just Hammer a two-stroke unless they're an idiot and then more power to them when they have to rebuild their motor and yes I have been known to be one of those idiots I have destroyed a Kawasaki 80cc 2 stroke and a Suzuki dt90 because once I hit Top End I just held the throttle to keep it going did not know that I had to modulate the throttle and not let the engine hold the same RPM for too long
@momolovesyou9969
@momolovesyou9969 Жыл бұрын
@@dustinmiller7278 I know it's a completely different type of engine, but during spring and fall cleanups we hold our backpack blowers WOT basically all day. Never had one go or need a rebuild. I've always been curious about that but I'm sure it has to do with the power as well
@justincoats7236
@justincoats7236 Жыл бұрын
My twin brother and I got brand new 84 KX80 when we were 12 years old. We were in a farming community. The older guys (14 to 16 year olds) had Honda XR250s. We could kick their butts in every way. I've owned close to 15 different bikes. The KX80 was my favorite.
@jeffrykopis5468
@jeffrykopis5468 Жыл бұрын
Even after his bad Honduki wreck and shoulder injury, Ike is still Captain Fearless! But at least he's no longer GEARLESS! Wise of ya'all to suit up in full armor.
@nickbaddorf2673
@nickbaddorf2673 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a 2 stroke Harley! (I think bikes and beards made one that was super cool!)
@tankdog03ify
@tankdog03ify Жыл бұрын
Makes me want to dig my 91 yz250 out the shed, very quick bike! I was smoking 400cc 4 strokes
@WheelieDad
@WheelieDad Жыл бұрын
Where you're losing speed is in the corners, it's a lot to handle and think of when everything comes at you so fast! You need to be changing down clutch in on the back brake before the corner. Slide the bike in so you can pop the clutch and you the powerband to slide round the corner. 💯🤟🏻 But hats off boy's for your 2nd time riding a 2smoker you sure rang them gears out proper! 👌🏻🔥
@coastalcleaningandmaintena2884
@coastalcleaningandmaintena2884 Жыл бұрын
ALWAYS a great day when u 1st discover 2 stroke power. There's just nothing like it. So simple to rebuild and work on as well as upgrade to insane power. Now I need to see u try a banshee or a kx 500 old Skool.
@MrBandit711
@MrBandit711 Жыл бұрын
My 2015 KX250F would blow your mind Great content !
@joshbrekke6374
@joshbrekke6374 10 ай бұрын
My Father bought me a nice condition used 1984 KX80 in 1986. It was a real awesome bike! Super powerful, I was 13. This brings back a lot of good memories, hearing & seeing it rip. We called it the raped Ape till we got our 1973 Suzuki TM400! The suspension I noticed was real awesome as yours is I see. Then I was gifted a 1986 KDX 80, that was a real nice one also, more mellow when I wanted to ride that way. Thanks guys!!
@MrGixxer1300r
@MrGixxer1300r Жыл бұрын
John is just about the right size and weight for a KX80 the great thing about these older bikes is you can find everything you need to make one really fly for cheap on ebay. Awesome content men!!!
@Jupiter503
@Jupiter503 Жыл бұрын
Seriously unlocking some major core memories with that bike
@adrockey
@adrockey Жыл бұрын
Great video! The KX80 is an awesome bike. In 1980 on my 11th birthday I got a YZ80. My best friend got a RM80. We had a blast and the next year he got a KX80. His uncle owned the Kawasaki Suzuki shop so he always got brand new. By the way to shift without a clutch you have to get it shifted just before your highest top end like 125 RPMs. Back off slightly shift get back into it. Always be prepared to lean forward to keep that front end from coming up. Charles is right y'all are probably just overweight for that shock. One thing that's beneficial writing a two-stroke is doing a lot of standing up I really ever sat on my seat. I grew up in Arizona flying across the desert. My what you would maybe call a specialty was going as fast as I could inland I've never been so I just stood up scanned land and was always prepared for throttle or break. I can get two free air off a gopher hole if you hit that power band right.
@MONSTERXC70
@MONSTERXC70 Жыл бұрын
Growing as an '80 kid, 2 strokes 4 life. I was a very small kid and I would ride my buddies '87 KX125 2 stroke. Rode with another friend who rode as a pro motocross racer, Damien Plotts. The good old days, when the powerband kicks in hold on!!!!
@lu52
@lu52 Жыл бұрын
Man I love you guys!!!!! Y’all got me working on a Murray kilowatt that I’m loving it.
@tomstech4390
@tomstech4390 Жыл бұрын
Glad you got round to it. "Toms Tech -8 months ago Ironically an old 2 stroke kawasaki kx100 or honda cf110 or something would probably set a super fast lap time. Even a modern 4 stroke cf110f would be fast due to larger wheels and good suspension. Would love to see what time an older 90's mini-motox racer would do." (Our 2WD Apocalypse Motorcycle gets Huge Upgrades! | 1971 Rokon Revival Pt. 2) "Toms Tech - 8 months ago I wanna see a dirtbike (small one) go through there, see what it would run. KX85 would probably destroy it." (190cc Shifter Kart is Tuned to Perfection! | Drift Steering, More Speed, Record Lap Times!) "Toms Tech - 7 months ago I'm looking at thing going "she's gone, no way" Meanwhile I'm full of hope because last few episodes I've been saying "Get a 2stroke dirtbike like a KX80 or whatever" because I think it'll destroy the lap board (big wheels, suspension high reving power). I guess this is as close as we'll get so it'd have to be ground-up rebuild." (Reviving an ABANDONED 1975 Harley-Davidson SX125 | The 2 STROKE Italian Flop!)
@michaelnorman6905
@michaelnorman6905 Жыл бұрын
The sound of my child hood had alot of fun on mine in my preteen years
@jamesglenn2006
@jamesglenn2006 Жыл бұрын
Well you guys got that sucker running right👍 Gotta love a 2 stroke dirtbike. 👌 I was smiling 😁 so many memories of my 80.
@kevinsellsit5584
@kevinsellsit5584 Жыл бұрын
I would recommend a lot of hours on a "fast" bike like this 80cc or a good 125cc before jumping on an ATK Intimidator 700. If that 80cc is "fast" the 490+cc water cooled 2-strokes are ... well ... CRAZY FAST. That torque Ike was missing ... insane thumping torque that will spin the rear tire just off idle going uphill ... and you better have throttle control because what happens next will change where in the MATRIX you re-appear. You guys need to check out the bad-a$$ 2-stroke minibike Mustie1 just fixed up. It's basically 2-stroke 3-speed Z50A but branded "Bridgestone" (looks like a Mitsubishi engine, but not sure)
@mriippa
@mriippa Жыл бұрын
the old KX 80 is a beast. had one in the 90's. was my absolute dream bike
@bobmanzi7712
@bobmanzi7712 Жыл бұрын
great stuff guys thanks
@dadsshop3291
@dadsshop3291 Жыл бұрын
I love the dirtbike content 🔥💯
@JohnsGarageandGames
@JohnsGarageandGames Жыл бұрын
I think it's time to go big or go home boys, let's see that KX500 cross kart build. That would be awesome out at Busco! This KX80 reminds me of when I raced MX as a kid, can't wait to see more of it!
@partystarter425
@partystarter425 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait for Wednesdays episode. Good luck and stay safe guys!!
@robertwild6063
@robertwild6063 Жыл бұрын
Love the 80. I remember some saying to me they redline around 14000rpm. And love the old power band (before power valves) so much fun.
@landonwaldrop9406
@landonwaldrop9406 Жыл бұрын
yall should get into more dirtbike stuff. been watching yall for years, keep it up!
@grantbatista8582
@grantbatista8582 Жыл бұрын
I remember when this channel had like 34k subscribers. Wow yall are killing it!
@marc4661
@marc4661 Жыл бұрын
I had a 93 kx 80 big wheel, it was so much fun and the 2nd gear PowerBand is awesome
@JohnHill-jm7tm
@JohnHill-jm7tm Жыл бұрын
Always loving your videos 👍. This Old Man from Washington NC enjoying little later than usual. Fighting internet problems 😭. Love you Guys 🛵🧔💝💝💝
@48blackshadowcafe32
@48blackshadowcafe32 24 күн бұрын
Still have my 83 KX 80 and it’s so much fun! Just put pads on the rear drum and new master cylinder on front. Time to rip!
@JonErikMarroquin
@JonErikMarroquin Жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha John says it can be a little scary but WIDE OPEN on every shift lol
@BillBogan
@BillBogan Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had a CR80 when I was young. Just a sprocket change turns a 2 stroke into an animal. We called it staying on the pipe.
@charlesgraham9954
@charlesgraham9954 Жыл бұрын
smelling & hearing 2 strokes always takes me back to a kid.
@Cheese2Stoked
@Cheese2Stoked Жыл бұрын
My first time on a 2T was a YZ250. Got on with four stroke habits and looped it on the test run😂😂 I’ve been addicted the smokers ever since🤘🏾💥
@El_Chompo
@El_Chompo Жыл бұрын
This the kind of machine that's so fast you end up spending more time shifting. That's why when you combine it with the cvt like on snowmobiles it's a perfect combo for raw acceleration, although you do pay the price of a slight delay of throttle response compared to a gearbox.
@dieselgeezer18
@dieselgeezer18 Жыл бұрын
i hate the delayed throttle response of CVTs. I dunno but CVTs make the engine feel kinda disconnected from the wheels. The throttle response is weird
@roberthatfull3816
@roberthatfull3816 Жыл бұрын
Had a couple of these and they realy rip got bucked off a few times and spat off into brambles but i still loved it great vid fellas 🤘
@dh420gjr
@dh420gjr Жыл бұрын
I am SOO GLAD Y'ALL FINALLY CAME TO 2 STROKES, HOPEFULLY Y'ALL GET THE BUG...1 DWN 4 UP, RUBBER SIDE DWN!!!
@aaronscrewface
@aaronscrewface Жыл бұрын
If you guys put a KX80 engine into a Harley, you should call it the "Hardly Davidson" :D
@justinlazaroff5383
@justinlazaroff5383 Жыл бұрын
This brings back memories
@hoondaily8824
@hoondaily8824 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate and enjoying the shop burnouts lately keep them coming 🔥
@Derf1313
@Derf1313 Жыл бұрын
Have to chuckle a bit, but my riding 2 strokes was done in the late 60's & 70's. When I was 14 I used my savings to buy a 71 Suzuki 400 mx, that had scared its first owners (little bit of damage too, lol). Sure wish it had more modern suspension, I did a bunch to make it ride better , but that Thumper 2 stroke was a few handfuls even with bigger sprockets. Even as a 180# rider you couldn't keep it down when it hit powerband!! Know a lot of folks that hurt themselves on thumpers... I did pretty good, averaged top 5 in most of the races I ran, lol. Jon, if you're gonna try for air, DON'T back off! You ended up landing front wheel first, great way to face plant over the bars, stay steady or on it, so you land better. Was scared for ya... Thanx for the fun!
@jlucasound
@jlucasound Жыл бұрын
John picked it right up. He was BORN for a two stroke motocross bike. I can tell he loves it and it was like second nature. Can you imagine what he will be able to do after a few weeks of dialing in?
@joshcoker88
@joshcoker88 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie Mac would approve of this episode!!! Thanks guys good stuff!!!
@jamespierce2415
@jamespierce2415 Жыл бұрын
i’m screaming john stand up on that jump!!!
@pongping1378
@pongping1378 Жыл бұрын
I remember as a young lad getting my first Mx bike and it was a kx80 I was in love haha now I ride a cr500 AF which is mental my mrs says I'm having a mid lifer at 41 years of age I say I just haven't grown up hahaha love what you do guys keep it up
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