Seneca: Of Anger Book 1 - (Audiobook & Summary)

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De Ira (On Anger) is a Latin work by Seneca (4 BC-65 AD). The work defines and explains anger within the context of Stoic philosophy, and offers therapeutic advice on how to prevent and control anger.
(Note to KZbin: This is my own recording, it is not taken from anywhere else. I retain the copyright)
Translated by Aubrey Stewart
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Notes:
I: Anger is a type of madness.
II: Anger has caused great harm to mankind
III: Anger is unique to humans, animals do not possess true anger.
IV: There are many forms of Anger. Irascibility is a general proneness to anger.
V: Anger contradicts all of man’s benevolent qualities such as gentleness, affection and mutual assistance and is therefore not in accordance with nature.
VI: Sometimes punishment is necessary. But the purpose of punishment is to correct or heal someone’s behaviour, not to harm them. Anger seeks only to harm so is no necessary for punishment.
VII: You shouldn’t attempt to harness anger. Reason is only strong when separate from the passions. Once anger grows it will overpower reason and you will be a slave to it.
VIII: “The best plan is to reject straightway the first incentives to anger.”
IX: If reason is stronger than anger then you don’t need anger, if reason is weaker than anger then it will be overpowered by it. So either anger is useless or uncontrollable.
X: If anger is more powerful than reason, the only way to control it is to set against it a more powerful vice such as fear. Wherefore reason is in the position of flying for aid to vices!
XI: Anger does not benefit you in war. You want your attacks to be thought out and orderly, anger is prone to rashness.
XII: You can choose to protect or avenge someone out of duty, you don’t need anger to do so. It is also more honourable since you’re doing it from deliberate judgement and not from impulse.
The fact that on occasion anger may have done good does not make it a good, any more than a shipwreck benefiting someone makes shipwrecks good.
XIII: Good qualities become better the stronger they are. Take anger to its extreme and it’s obviously not a good quality. Anger does not assist courage, but takes its place, you’ll note it’s often the weak who are the angriest.
XIV: Good men should not hate bad men or acts. It is error that leads to bad acts, it makes no sense to hate error. Further you’d end up hating yourself in that case since you also err.
XV: Hating a man because he errs is like hating a sick man because he is ill. When you punish someone, it should be for their good, not to satisfy your desires.
XVI: Anger should play no part in punishment. Punishment should be reasoned and impartial.
XVII: Anger is not a weapon because it cannot be put down at will.
XVIII: Anger is a terrible judge. It is inconsistent, hasty and can invent crimes where none exist.
XIX: Irascibility avoids truth because remaining angry feels good.
Reason is the better judge. “no wise man punishes any one because he has sinned, but that he may sin no more”
XX: Anger affects those of weak minds
XXI: There is therefore nothing great or noble in anger
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@VoxStoica
@VoxStoica 5 жыл бұрын
Buy the book: geni.us/AmazonOfAnger Timings: 1 - 0:12 2 - 4:10 3 - 7:04 4 - 11:37 5 - 13:01 6 - 14:56 7 - 18:47 8 - 21:19 9 - 24:40 10 - 26:54 11 - 28:55 12 - 33:12 13 - 36:53 14 - 39:10 15 - 40:41 16 - 42:46 17 - 47:57 18 - 51:32 19 - 54:51 20 - 58:52 21 - 1:03:42
@marquesiam7514
@marquesiam7514 4 жыл бұрын
If you're the one voicing all these I really appreciate your effort. Your pronunciation and emphasis helps it to be all the more digestible
@justinsmith2935
@justinsmith2935 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your uploads! Thank you bro
@Godsstepdad
@Godsstepdad 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your efforts mate, I really appreciate the way you narrate these works. Helped me alot. Ps dont stop plz Pps you should deserve way subs
@xekis
@xekis 3 жыл бұрын
We need this more than ever. Children need to be taught this in school rather than to value weakness, anger, and offense.
@bobhope5114
@bobhope5114 Жыл бұрын
They will never allow the "little people" to be empowered. Not now...not ever.
@alainaaugust1932
@alainaaugust1932 Жыл бұрын
Such teaching has begun. Schools increasingly teach Social and Emotional Learning founded on the principles of Emotional Intelligence, or EI. The understandings of Seneca, Marcus Aurelius, and Epictetus are restated in modern lessons on emotional Intelligence. An example is the concept of self-talk which follows Epictetus’ statement: “Man is not disturbed by events but by the view he takes of them.”
@floyddean-dp4wi
@floyddean-dp4wi Жыл бұрын
mercy upon the afflicter is cruelty to the innocent, to be called evil for doing good is a blessing.
@brydenmorton4634
@brydenmorton4634 2 жыл бұрын
You are "the Morgan Freeman of philosophical narration..." thank you for recording these works. Your voice is like sweet audible chocolate to my ears and it makes it incredibly easy to focus on the messages.
@thatonepianoguy_
@thatonepianoguy_ 11 ай бұрын
“Greatness rests upon goodness.” Love that
@janellegeronimo5281
@janellegeronimo5281 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robin! It is such a joy knowing there are still good people who live in Stoicism and educate people
@IrishGrenade187
@IrishGrenade187 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. More would benefit from these timeless words if we implemented them in public schools. These brilliant minds are always glossed over and given brief attention. Thank you, sir!
@pazz1038
@pazz1038 2 жыл бұрын
There's a reason for that, though Socrates strictly speaking was pre the stoic era he was teaching the young people groundings in philosophy and free thought, and what did he get for it? Executed. Has not changed since, its not in the interests of the powerful to make a well informed populous.
@corygurnett6996
@corygurnett6996 3 жыл бұрын
Vox stoica thanks again for you labors of passion. I have ordered a bunch of Senecas works thanks to you. I'm sure you have inspired alot of people just excellent and forever grateful.
@kevlarkevin1840
@kevlarkevin1840 5 жыл бұрын
Timeless knowledge. Thank you!
@ly2268
@ly2268 Жыл бұрын
I’m disappointed in myself, today I let anger get the better of me. I need to reflect and learn from this.
@thatonepianoguy_
@thatonepianoguy_ 11 ай бұрын
Marcus Aurelius brought me to Stoicism, Epictetus laid my foundations, and Seneca kept me reading….
@Caesar_1415
@Caesar_1415 10 ай бұрын
Training myself to grow and better manage my anger, thank you so much for the time to make these videos.
@bronsomccor2642
@bronsomccor2642 Жыл бұрын
I have anger issues and it's very easy for me to get angry and stressed so I'm trying to control it
@TheGreatAgnostic
@TheGreatAgnostic 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! A great service. I am striving to overcome anger and be a better father and man.
@Caesar_1415
@Caesar_1415 3 жыл бұрын
This helps me understand anger so much better thank you!!
@mmka5434
@mmka5434 6 ай бұрын
Hello Mr. Robin Homer, Thanks for providing us with such a great book. 🙏🏻
@whateverbabe
@whateverbabe 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Your voice is so soothing and you're like those professionals on audible :D
@knowthyself3422
@knowthyself3422 5 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for this audio book for so long. Thanks for the good work you continue to do.
@VoxStoica
@VoxStoica 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks terah nathan, parts 2 and 3 will follow soon.
@knowthyself3422
@knowthyself3422 5 жыл бұрын
thank you once more
@thomascrownrg
@thomascrownrg 5 жыл бұрын
Elegantly simplistic and much needed..Thank you
@tomcremem8600
@tomcremem8600 Жыл бұрын
Really opened my mind up ,I needed to hear this, thank you
@pahriz
@pahriz 5 жыл бұрын
Thank yoj for making this available!
@RohanKumar-vx5sb
@RohanKumar-vx5sb 4 жыл бұрын
thank you also for the summary in the description, Robin.. quite thoughtful.
@antiantipoda
@antiantipoda 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this introduction to Seneca.
@fraidoonw
@fraidoonw 5 жыл бұрын
thanks, the book is read clearly and nicely, Seneca is one of the greatest!
@griffinhewlett7308
@griffinhewlett7308 10 ай бұрын
If drivers Ed was a 2 hour course this should half of it
@notusum1else
@notusum1else 4 жыл бұрын
I love this channel🤘🏼👍🏼
@dymphokwaro5421
@dymphokwaro5421 2 жыл бұрын
Priceless
@archanadwibedy3287
@archanadwibedy3287 Жыл бұрын
Thank you...for your narration.
@funkyboodah
@funkyboodah 2 жыл бұрын
this is so damn personal it hurts
@hirschowitz1
@hirschowitz1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this......deserves careful listening.... Miss Jenny
@seanconnery9612
@seanconnery9612 4 жыл бұрын
I would have us be in synergies😏
@brendanehlermann7347
@brendanehlermann7347 9 ай бұрын
as a teutonic I feel slighted, but in control
@rckli
@rckli 3 ай бұрын
Yoooo wtf why was this video thumbs down? 😂 Fkn KZbin programming is shite - years ago, it also unsubscribed from this channel …I had to find it and sub to it again 😅
@robertburnett5561
@robertburnett5561 4 жыл бұрын
Where today such wisdom?
@NichtNameee
@NichtNameee 3 жыл бұрын
Right there
@kellydittus4772
@kellydittus4772 2 жыл бұрын
And when you have been wronged. And have taken time to calm . But the anger remains like a pillar because what has happened is wrong and you will not allow it to ever happen again. And that pillar will not budge until the truth is chiseled in its stone and everyone acknowledges it. Anger is only bad if you don't have the truth watching your back
@spajas8092
@spajas8092 Жыл бұрын
Right. Anger is only useful when it’s pure and righteous. The reasoning behind most anger is weak or non existent. Someone who’s been rightfully been driven to wrath is a completely different display than a madman
@charleshurstreinvention3959
@charleshurstreinvention3959 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. And you do have to learn how to control anger. Becoming angry when needed is normal. But as I tell my own subscribers--staying in that state is not. Suffering from chronic anger causes a few problems. First it impedes your progress. By draining your energy that you should be using to advance yourself. Ever been angry all day at work then skipped that night workout? That's probably why. But it also isn't physically healthy and can lead to long term effects on the heart and doctors now think future cancer as well. Not to mention high blood pressure. There are two simple methods I tell my own people how to control anger. One you have with you--your breathing. You can breathe in a meditative state while walking down the street. You picture a coil slowly unwinding as if you were breathing through your stomach. Slow and in and out. Wind the coil and let it go slowly. It calms you down and if you do it every few hours for maybe ten reps then it keeps you calm. Second--reflect on what you are growing angry about. Is it really going to affect you even four months from now? You'll find many times it won't. So I would use these techniques to minimize anger so you can only progress forward. Hope that helps someone out there---Charles
@emmetcraig828
@emmetcraig828 9 ай бұрын
What did Thomas Acquainis say?!
@tsoukallos
@tsoukallos Ай бұрын
Too many ads!
@VoxStoica
@VoxStoica Ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know. Ads on older videos are often auto inserted and sometimes they go a bit overboard. I've just deleted 90% of them.
@BarryArthur
@BarryArthur 3 жыл бұрын
"Let them hate, provided they fear me." I would not even be loved on such terms. Right, God?
@worstHorse12397
@worstHorse12397 6 ай бұрын
annoying commercials
@JavierBonillaC
@JavierBonillaC 4 жыл бұрын
Evolutionary anthropology has explained everything so much better in the last 20 years than philosophy in 2000
@simeonsimeonov5693
@simeonsimeonov5693 4 жыл бұрын
It basically repeats what Seneca is saying here... only under the idea it's objective truth, whereas Seneca's teachings could be classified as opinion. And despite these two amazing sources people still don't really get it.
@MyRealName148
@MyRealName148 4 жыл бұрын
We have steadily devolved over the last 20 years. Nothing now is as needed as a review of humanity. Computers don't make people better, they expose man's fickle, shallow and selfish nature.
@boogdanoof9451
@boogdanoof9451 2 жыл бұрын
When you as a man are told how to breathe, think and feel, and your bank account is raped in the name of "global warming" and "equal rights" (meaning more socialism and feelings to rule your life) you will understand anger even better. For then it will not only be justifiable to have anger. You will be mad if you don't.
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