Sennheiser HD660S - REVIEW

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@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 7 жыл бұрын
Note: when I say indistinguishable from HD700 i'm referring to driver structure. Also at one point I said 580 instead of 660S but the correction is on screen.
@k8oboi
@k8oboi 7 жыл бұрын
if 660S shared the same drivers as the 700's, how different do they sound? because HD700 is actually cheaper nowadays....
@DMN3901
@DMN3901 7 жыл бұрын
Without trying the 660 S yet, drastically different. Different housing, and the driver has been tweaked, fortunately. Still waiting for Sennheiser to make a HD700 revision (700 S?). Love the build, technical ability, hate the frequency response. HD800 is much better.
@micksmith2534
@micksmith2534 7 жыл бұрын
660s overpriced headphones for fanboys.nothing new to the table.
@PedroOliveira1987
@PedroOliveira1987 7 жыл бұрын
Great video (production) but the overall review felt a bit meh.... You made more comparisons with a discontinued headphone (hd580) when i am sure most of us were waiting for a bit more on how they compare with the hd600/650 and specially the hd700 since they share the same drivers. If you can please share a bit more info on that.... Thank you and keep up the good work. :)
@lumntoob999
@lumntoob999 6 жыл бұрын
Pedro Oliveira the comparison with the 580 is ok because the 600 sounds nearly identical just maybe ever so slightly more forward mid range and the 650 just has a little more mid bass but if you were to quickly compare 580,600,650 the only real noticeable difference is the extra mid bass in the 650. As for the driver in the 660s, a headphone driver is made up of quite a few different parts, but yes the 660s does share the baffle plate and rear housing I think with the 700 but that does not mean it will sound anything like the 700, in fact Sennheiser could use those couple of same parts and then change a few things and make a variety of completely different sounding drivers. The reason behind using those parts off of the hd700 driver is because they put allot of r&d into developing them and know that it improves factors of the driver so this is not a bad thing it's the reason for the improvements made on the 660 like detail retrieval speed and damping.
@snowman7234
@snowman7234 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly man, i stopped the video midway just because I had to type this feedback: best headphone review I've watched in a long time. Direct, clean editing (though nothing spectacular -- gets the job done nicely), subjective at times (appreciated) yet focused on objective measures and feedback most of the time. Also, you don't spend several minutes throughout rambling, that's very considerate of our time (and short attention span). I'm subbing just off of this one video, very well done sir! +1 viewer
@kevinmorrice
@kevinmorrice 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like you came from zreviews
@ChillToMusic87
@ChillToMusic87 Жыл бұрын
Calm down pal.
@styloyt
@styloyt 6 жыл бұрын
The more reviews I watch, the more I want/need them. I’ve been thinking of buying HD600, but seeing that these neutral boys are less hard to drive really changes my mind. And GOD DAMN they look so sleek.
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 6 жыл бұрын
You could also get HD600 or HD650 and use it with sonarworks truefi's tuning preset.
@eva2415
@eva2415 7 жыл бұрын
The production quality of your vids really deserves higher views
@jamesallen5591
@jamesallen5591 6 жыл бұрын
It really does.
@DirtyRottenR
@DirtyRottenR 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't get how he has only 8,5k subs... The amount off editing that goes in the his vids is just insane and makes them really enjoyable!
@thejackofclubs
@thejackofclubs 7 жыл бұрын
the v30 is kinda cheating when saying a phone can power them. the v30 has probably the most powerful headphone amp of any phone.
@CamperIV
@CamperIV 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought lol. It almost sounded like he wasn't aware of the superb DAC/amp that the V30 has.
@bubukill1
@bubukill1 7 жыл бұрын
Thought they same when he said That.Like dude... this phone is advertised on having a high quality DAC capable of powering high-impedance headphone.
@thatguyoverthere54
@thatguyoverthere54 7 жыл бұрын
I think it's fair to say that the V30's internals are just the beginning and plenty of smartphones will have better audio internals in the future. Maybe not the main flagships that are dropping the 3.5mm, but there will be plenty of specialty options, so I wouldn't say it's cheating to say a phone can power them so much as being optimistic.
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 6 жыл бұрын
Akilan Mohana If we have to wait 10 years for smartphones to catch up to the V30....your point is moot. Will the MAJORITY of smartphones power this headphone CLOSE to its potential? No.
@user-vi3tb3bw5t
@user-vi3tb3bw5t 6 жыл бұрын
Akilan Mohana not true. Sound quality is one technology that seems to be overshadowed by wireless and portability. Some of the best headphones and set up today have been made for decades with little to no change.
@brianliu522
@brianliu522 2 жыл бұрын
I am using iFi Zen DAC v1. balanced connection with HD660s. Very happy with the results. They are very detailed, smooth, natural and realistic sound with a touch of warmth. With 150 ohm impedance I never need to turn the volume above 11 o’clock. As it is not heavy, I can listen for a few hours without feeling fatigue. I mainly listen to classical music which I think HD660s is ideal for this genre. No matter it’s Chopin’s nocturne (solo piano) or Schubert’s string quartets or symphonies by Beethoven and Mahler involving 100 + pieces of instruments of varied tones and textures, the HD660s reproduces them with ease and accuracy. The HD660S makes me feel I am sitting right in the best seat of the concert hall.
@rebelzfire
@rebelzfire 7 жыл бұрын
One of my new favourite channels, the visual experience and attention to detail (especially the good audio) are astounding. Great work, keep it coming.
@albocaj5975
@albocaj5975 7 жыл бұрын
This is the best review I've seen so far. Not overloaded adjectives or shallow descriptions running around the bush. Thank you. I just wanted to know if these, being the most detailed of the line and with an improved soundstage, would be worth the $500 or not. You did say they are your favorite set and a phenomenal pair but I didn't hear you saying it is a good buy, but just the 10% and also what that money could buy.
@Dimitar_Ivanov
@Dimitar_Ivanov 7 жыл бұрын
Man that intro is just incredible! I would love to see a video on how you filmed and edited it.
@PilipBwoy
@PilipBwoy 6 жыл бұрын
Loving this format especially the mini descriptions on screen
@dhruvtampa146
@dhruvtampa146 5 жыл бұрын
i would prefer your reviews instead of z reviews, time saving, more infomative more accurate description. thank you DMS😄
@Aztecatl7
@Aztecatl7 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, z reviews spends most of the time yapping away.
@gregtechno506
@gregtechno506 4 жыл бұрын
I don't care about time i wanna know every aspect of a gear i'm about to buy. DMS does a good job better than Joshua Valour imo but i always final check stuff on Zreviews
@gregtechno506
@gregtechno506 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aztecatl7 that's because you dont take time to actually listen to what he has to say
@ojasadhikari4618
@ojasadhikari4618 4 жыл бұрын
Ranking: zreviews, DMS, Jim's reviews, I hate Joshua valour
@kevinmorrice
@kevinmorrice 4 жыл бұрын
zreviews goes into way more detail, and those details may sound like yapping but they can make or break a product for me, a good product review should be long and informative covering every aspect of the product
@bratosin1
@bratosin1 6 жыл бұрын
I just got the 660 = amazing
@cartman55655
@cartman55655 3 жыл бұрын
Just switched from my Sony MDR - 7506 to these and OMG its amazing. Cant recommend these enough
@johnjameson4143
@johnjameson4143 7 жыл бұрын
Other than being a bit more detailed, I’m not getting a feel from your video for how these sound. Please describe the sound of the 660 S more clearly, is it warm and smooth, dark and bassy, neutral with a pinch of warmth, warm and forward? Also, please describe the bass, the mids, and the treble. Does the bass have thump, Is it elevated in the middle or upper bass like other Sennheisers, does the treble sound veiled? I know you haven’t had these phones for very long, maybe you could get back to us after a while with a better description for how they sound. Thank you very much and I’m glad you got them.
@johnjameson4143
@johnjameson4143 7 жыл бұрын
Mick Smith Wow, this answers all those questions. Thank you so much
@user-vi3tb3bw5t
@user-vi3tb3bw5t 6 жыл бұрын
John Jameson 650>660s idk why but I couldn't do the 660s a little too bright for me but that's cuz I'm sensitive.
@kevinmorrice
@kevinmorrice 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-vi3tb3bw5t i find running them through a tube amp often dulls the crispness, should help you
@user-vi3tb3bw5t
@user-vi3tb3bw5t 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmorrice Yeah well, I like my liquid spark and topping and don't want a tube amp lol
@MrDeeb8
@MrDeeb8 7 жыл бұрын
I like the words on the screen and the subtle effects and stuff. Makes it funny . Nice job man
@MrDeeb8
@MrDeeb8 7 жыл бұрын
BOIII I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
@johnnyvvlog
@johnnyvvlog 4 жыл бұрын
Just got these for $350. Literally a steal at that price imo.
@noosewrld
@noosewrld 4 жыл бұрын
364$ :))
@Omkar-ey3ls
@Omkar-ey3ls 2 жыл бұрын
@@noosewrld 240$ new on Black Friday!!!
@EricksonFilmsYT
@EricksonFilmsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful review! I've been very happy with my pair
@HenryFanboy
@HenryFanboy 6 жыл бұрын
DSM3: Probably not worth it for the price, only 10% better-ish. Zeos: SELL ALL YOUR HEADPHONES EVEN IF YOU HAVE HD 600 AND BUY THIS. NOW!
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 6 жыл бұрын
Janer DT1990 is better for the price
@HenryFanboy
@HenryFanboy 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I checked your comparison on both headphones and it seemed so. Have you ever considered reviewing AKG K712 pro by any chance? I would really like your take on it as you have reviewed many flagship models from other brands.
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 6 жыл бұрын
i would love to try some. I really didn't like the K7XX but haven't had my hands on K712 at home yet.
@RC-qc2nz
@RC-qc2nz 5 жыл бұрын
The dt 1990 is now way better than the HD 660s. The 660s suits better for the Majority of normal hearing adults in terms of hearing. The 1990 has a strong peak in the highs which makes it too piercing and unnaturally. The bass is good at the 1990 but in terms of resolution and mids the hd 660s wins
@Tripokaridos22
@Tripokaridos22 4 жыл бұрын
@@RC-qc2nz I respect that Some people Will like DT 1990 more, But HD 660 and all the 6 line is way more easy to listen . DT 1990 have spikes on highs that for some older people are hard to listen over 1 hour. But yeah for peopla tha dont have this problems DT 1990 are amazing very fun .
@SnowIzCold
@SnowIzCold Жыл бұрын
These are so good that i sometimes long after them when hearing music, so i can listen back with them.
@Sp33dGames
@Sp33dGames 3 жыл бұрын
I am here to tell you guys that I just bought these headphones and I am shocked in the best way possible (coming from $40 "gaming" headphones and some galaxy buds+) Thank you!
@bratosin1
@bratosin1 6 жыл бұрын
I just got my hd660s , and yes they have one of the best sub bass I ever heard , they go easily to 20hz , so don't worry ! That was my only fear ! And yes I'm a fucking bass head ! And if a bass head like me love the sub bass of hd660s trust me .. they have it , thank you sennheiser ! Dms3/ Joshua! And Zeos
@mogensen84
@mogensen84 4 жыл бұрын
I just sold my HD58x despite that I just received them from drop.com like 1 week ago .. I absolutely loved them! However, I really wanted to try the HD660s since the pricedifference wasn't that big after paying duty/tax here in Denmark - I'm hoping for overall better sound (but still with that amazing bass that came with the HD58x). I will be using it for gaming most of the time ..
@mogensen84
@mogensen84 4 жыл бұрын
@touma I'm enjoying the bass on the hd660s compared to the hd58x from drop.com .. Sure, the hd58x has more sub-bass which is nice, but the clarity of the hd660s is soooooo much better in terms of bass/sound. The hd660s also have a wider soundstage! I'm currently using my hd660s with the build in amp that my Røde NT-usb mini comes with - It has plenty of power to drive the hd660s 👌 I actually bought the Fiio K3 in hope of getting even more sound of the hd660s, but I was slightly dissapointed considering how good the sound of the Røde NT-usb mini already is. However, the bassboost on the Fiio K3 makes a huge difference to the hd660s performance in terms of bass - I really enjoyed the extra boost 🙌 It was just not worth paying 99euro for something that does pretty much the same as my microphone can do.
@dan.downing
@dan.downing 6 жыл бұрын
really nice video @DMS3 TV, thanks for the great advice.
@fastguitars4380
@fastguitars4380 6 жыл бұрын
At some point the reviewer will learn that in the world of "Audiophile" gear, you are paying the big bucks for 3% increase...... So, to get, as you say, "15%" more, = then you have discovered a miracle. Now, I own these, and have owned the other HD's that the reviewer mentioned and other's in the Senn family, , and these HD660s produce an exceptional musical listening experience that simply cannot be compared to the 600s or the 650s. In fact, these have some of the best mids ever created in a dynamic open back set of headphones. Sennheiser's idea was to tweek the HD700 drivers within the HD580's shell to create the ultimate HD600, and they did it. These headphones offer beautiful Senheiser sound, and if you like this world class sound, then you'll love these headphones, and never mind the price. If you are obsessed with listening to quality sound, then money is what gets you there. Thats just how it works. These cost more then the 580s,600s, and 650s, because they sound better, not just different, but better.
@kevinmorrice
@kevinmorrice 4 жыл бұрын
this is one of the rare occasions when the high cost is worth every penny
@IamY00t
@IamY00t 4 жыл бұрын
Ordered a set. Been super happy with my now 10 year old Sennheiser PC360. I'm sure for gaming, Spotify and KZbin these will be more than enough for my rather casual ears.
@JosephChancey
@JosephChancey 2 жыл бұрын
How have they held up? Do you like them?
@ploppen3872
@ploppen3872 Жыл бұрын
id also like to know about your experience with them
@isoertz
@isoertz 6 жыл бұрын
i would reeeeally like to hear some sound demos from you. like they dont have to be on youtube, would be lovely to hear them uncompressed and uploaded somewhere else. good work!
@RyanToolbox
@RyanToolbox 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy you DMS. Subbed - Please keep at it!
@timgarcia923
@timgarcia923 7 жыл бұрын
Per Sennheiser, the pads have changed. (Source: Sennheiser official on Head-Fi thread). The shape is a little different and they are roomier. www.head-fi.org/threads/sennheiser-hd660s-finally-a-successor-for-the-hd650.862308/page-29#post-13805367 “Indeed, the pad covers and inner material are the same, however the shape is different. Another way to express this, is the HD 650 has “donut” shaped round pads, compared to the more cup-shaped pads on the HD 660 S. The difference is visually small, but it was designed to feel more roomy and pleasant.”
@timwu7751
@timwu7751 6 жыл бұрын
I really really loved the review, and i think you were incredibly inciteful and will help a lot with people deciding. I just feel like the b roll, the film looks like jelly, possibly from after affects stabilizing? it just makes me feel nauseas and im pretty sure many others have the same ideas. Great review none the less, thanks!
@AdrianIII
@AdrianIII 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Generally, I have found that "neutral" is not the same as "musical." (For me, anyway.) "Neutral" headphones invariably sound harder and brighter than live music, and also lacking in bass compared to the live music experience. So, although they might be an interesting analytical tool, I don't expect a "neutral" headphone to enable my enjoyment of listening to music.
@RC-qc2nz
@RC-qc2nz 5 жыл бұрын
I am an professional acoustician from Germany and the hd580 is not more "neutral" than the HD 660s. There are many factors like the open ear gain or the real ear unaided gain etc. Which is important to read a frequency response.
@ForeverYoung007
@ForeverYoung007 5 жыл бұрын
How would you rate these in terms of neutrality?
@MarianIanchis
@MarianIanchis 6 жыл бұрын
I like the way you speak. Fast and straight to the point. Radio voice. You don’t sound southern at all.
@HIRAMECLARKEHOPS
@HIRAMECLARKEHOPS Жыл бұрын
I just bought 560s a week ago, saw Amazon had 660s for $320 so had to buy some. Probably gonna return the 560s and keep the 6. Guess we'll see, might return the 6.
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV Жыл бұрын
660s is more detailed, 560s is better tuned.
@666chege
@666chege 7 жыл бұрын
Great review. Im impressed. Keep it up.
@jamesallen5591
@jamesallen5591 6 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel because I stumbled upon your 'leaving the state' video. I listened to this video through my HD600s. I appreciate the way you compared the series. If the HD600s are shouty, I don't think I would prefer any of the other Sennheisers to these. I switch to my Grado SR80e headphone once in a while because they are more forward with the mid range frequencies. Another difference, of course, is that the Sennheisers are harder to drive.
@tomroxas64
@tomroxas64 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice reviews!
@tredfxman
@tredfxman 5 жыл бұрын
There is 1 thing overlooked here Impendance! - The 650 requires 300 ohms, while the 660S only requires 150 ohm. For music producers like me this may be a big deal, basically sine the worlds most sold external sound card interface: Focusrite 2i2 is recomended to not exceed 200 ohms, which rules the cheaper 650's out.. In case ur not interested in paying extra for a new headhopne amp/dac as well to drive them properly. Now the 660S is only 150 ohm, so thats an improvement. But in this price range im more likely to spend those kind of cash on the Shure 1840. The reviews by WhatHiFi & Sound on Sound speaks for themselves (an others) Plus the require only 65 ohm's of impendance. These are most definetly worth checking out as an option if your producing 👍
@DrAg0n3250
@DrAg0n3250 3 жыл бұрын
The year is 2020, everything has changed except the sound signature of the **Sennhesier 600 line of headphones. These are still $500 and sexy matte black. The 600s are still *shouty*, 650s are still the best ones for just layin' back and relaxing to music. Each of these headphones will present fine detail to you, just at different freqency ranges. The areas of noticeable change become 87-93% Amp dependent past this point *imo*. This line of headphones feel like the 'Honda Civics' of the audio realm it seems; different varients, years, makes, and models. They work and they're proven to work consitently across a generation. It could be nostlgia of the name Sennheiser being the only audio brand next to Bests that I asscoiate with headphones and childhood. Beats just wouldn't stop beating me over the head about how great and cool they were, now Beats are a mainstream meme. Sennheiser is still just vibin with what ever music you like.
@Cereal421
@Cereal421 7 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for my email saying I won these..........pls
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 7 жыл бұрын
Cereal421 ripperoni
@dominicmoass8478
@dominicmoass8478 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I definitely agree the 660 S is more detailed than the 650, less of a veil to my ears as well.
@user-vi3tb3bw5t
@user-vi3tb3bw5t 6 жыл бұрын
Dominic Moass maybe get ur ears checked. Brighter and harsher doesn't mean less veiled.
@arteysole3409
@arteysole3409 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-vi3tb3bw5t ​ J Yes, and what's gonna be the result? Your ears are wrong because you don't agree with "J"?
@streamcnoremorse3323
@streamcnoremorse3323 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-vi3tb3bw5t It is not brighter. It is really more detailed.
@FierceLeo.
@FierceLeo. Жыл бұрын
Is the lcd x worth the upgrade over the 660s? How much detail difference?
@TheEldestBoyTV
@TheEldestBoyTV 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video from this channel. Just like you did for the 660S, I’m hoping that you give us the opportunity to fund your review of the upcoming Audeze LCD2-C. And of course, we’d love to see you draw a winner who gets to keep those headphones once the review is done :-)
@jeffreymakuch2493
@jeffreymakuch2493 7 жыл бұрын
Pads are different from other 6-series, they are slightly deeper (by 2mm) and shaped slightly different. The pad is not as "rounded" and has more space in the earcup. A visual inspection is not going to tell you enough about the driver to tell you they are the same. Sharing specs doesn't mean it's the same. They can make a change to the materials for example, and it would not be the same even if it looks the same.
@AliaksejKa
@AliaksejKa Жыл бұрын
I thought nowadays pads for 600, 650 and 660s are the same.
@Nicdehouwer
@Nicdehouwer 6 жыл бұрын
good review, thanks
@Tripokaridos22
@Tripokaridos22 4 жыл бұрын
Now that i have all 5 and 6 series i have to say HD 650 and HD 660s are the best of them all for different reasons .
@Tup3x
@Tup3x 6 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know how this compares to HD 595 (or HD 598). I also wonder about the clamping force... How much tighter this is compared to HD 595 or HD 598 and is it possible to bend the band so that it doesn't clamp as hard? HD 595 fit my head perfectly and barely clamp at all. I wouldn't want to sacrifice sound stage either but I guess that shouldn't be a problem with these.
@dlbsyst
@dlbsyst 2 жыл бұрын
I really want these headphones 🎧 and I'm getting a pair next time they go on sale at Amazon.🙂
@ixoye56
@ixoye56 Жыл бұрын
My 660s with a Harman EQ sounds fantastic, I don't understand why some complain about base performance of these, especial with a Low-Shelf EQ.
@nycReaching
@nycReaching 7 жыл бұрын
one of the things that always put me off 600/650 (even tho i still like them) is bass roll off.. i would of liked to hear a bit more about whats going on w the low end on these, compared to the others otherwise great vid
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 7 жыл бұрын
NYCReaching its essantially the same. No real FR change in lows
@user-vi3tb3bw5t
@user-vi3tb3bw5t 6 жыл бұрын
You mean lack of sub bass? There's definitely a treble roll off but bass nah. 650s have a fantastic low end. If you aren't getting enough bass response then your set up isn't giving it enough power. 600/650s have huge impedance spikes during bass hits.
@cosmicgamer6648
@cosmicgamer6648 2 жыл бұрын
What portable Dac goes better with this headphone? I have Zero ideas. Please recommend. What about Sennheiser GSX 1000? Can you please review it? I will buy this later need your help brother. What kind of Dac should I buy? I love the portable one because I can use it for everything. All in one. I listen to songs, soundtrack, games, watch movies. I'm actually an Audiophile. But I use like $16.5 Chinese Mice headphone. Which is really bad. I prefer great quality, crystal clear sound, and badass bass. Overall great. Hope you see this comment and reply. Thank you for this video.
@metalmiguel16
@metalmiguel16 2 жыл бұрын
Loud Places.. good choice!
@harbinguy1
@harbinguy1 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel!!! I have a question: how long does a headphone last?
@soulfulfool
@soulfulfool Жыл бұрын
whole life if you care for them, if you are naughty child I guess it last less :)
@tinears830
@tinears830 6 жыл бұрын
For the short time that I heard these at CanJam NY I dug them! Senns booth left a lot to be desired in regards to listening experience though lol
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive Жыл бұрын
@6:15 you talk about impedance and wave xlr support up to 250 ohms, so 660s will work cause 150 ohms, but 660s2 is 300 ohms.
@bratosin1
@bratosin1 7 жыл бұрын
Short story long : hd600 still the king in town !
@johnson42069
@johnson42069 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby Brian sorry but subjectively, i disagree. I have had the hd650s for a few months now, and *loooove* their relaxed sound. I personally would never give it up for detail and then lack of smoothness. However, I do respect your opinion and objectively, the two each have an even amount of pros and cons. So, it's preference.
@michaelrotaru1148
@michaelrotaru1148 3 жыл бұрын
is it worth to upgrade to HD 660s from HD 558 ?
@dannybos7024
@dannybos7024 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@SeanLiu4
@SeanLiu4 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man, the first vid I watched from you was your tier list vid. I noticed you had the HD 650s/6XX but not this. You put the 650s in A tier. Would it be safe to assume that you rank these either A tier or S tier?
@avedgy
@avedgy 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, that intro is great.
@flavalicious7327
@flavalicious7327 7 жыл бұрын
Can we get a review for the V30?
@bcrocka18
@bcrocka18 Жыл бұрын
Just got these for 300 and it’s my first “audiophile” header if you see this later on know that you can if you wait get em for 300 again :)
@totizedger
@totizedger Жыл бұрын
I’ve had the HD660S and there must have been something wrong with them, the sound was very even through all registers yes however the veil was definetly there and singers had a towel in their mouth so the words were mumbled and this veil was over everything which bothered me because when i put on my DT770 Pro 80 Ohm that veil was just not there and yes i know that it’s v-shaped but instrument separation and detail was much better and all sounds were clean and open. I heard so much positive things about the 660S that i wonder if there was something wrong with my pair that i had, if i ignore the veil and just listen then i do notice that they are very easy on the ears and have a natural frequency curve but every instrument is inside a box. I do like the frequency curve to the 660S but that certain veil it has for some reason make it not worth the money
@phobiedufromage2433
@phobiedufromage2433 Жыл бұрын
There is no veil ur just used to beyerdynamic high treble
@RX-rd4sc
@RX-rd4sc 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, what will you recommend for sound quality(gaming and music) Audeze mobius or sundara or 660s Price is not an issue 1st? 2nd? 3rd?
@MFHRaptor
@MFHRaptor 6 жыл бұрын
Looking at freq graphs I now get where the controversy is. HD660S has a highly detailed driver but with less accurate tuning, hitting the wrong spots with peaks at 4K and 5K.
@bbarten
@bbarten 3 жыл бұрын
Good info but a headphone review should always include details about the bass response.
@6643bear
@6643bear Жыл бұрын
Hi great review on hd660, I just bought mine for £259, as these phones been superseded by 660s2, which has a better bass response, but when I use these with my zen dac v2 with the true bass button on it does come alive , I do have hd6xx also they sound great and they are still $200 , I also like my hd560s too, I have 2 systems with dac so have decent headphones for both system . Be interested to find out how yiu rate the 660s2 . Great work with all your reviews . Regards mark
@AdamSmith-fe9jf
@AdamSmith-fe9jf 10 ай бұрын
Great comparison considering you have many sets in the 600 line from Sennheiser. Where did you buy your 660s from?
@6643bear
@6643bear 10 ай бұрын
@@AdamSmith-fe9jf hi Adam, at the time Thormann , as sennheiser already sold out. These were reduced as the S2 version came out. I have fitted a custom cabs mod to my hd6xx which does improve the bass at bottom end . The S2 of 660 now have better bass . Thanks for the reply
@AdamSmith-fe9jf
@AdamSmith-fe9jf 10 ай бұрын
@@6643bear That is great to know. Congrats on the new acquisition at that great deal. If I may ask, as I’m a little confused about something, when the S2 offers more bass than 6xx and 660s, does that mean the sound overall gets a little muddy or drowned out by the extra bass or do mids and highs remain detailed and clear? Also, instead of doing mods or getting the S2 over original version, would the use of EQ give the same effect without having to go for the pricier S2 just for the added bass extension?
@6643bear
@6643bear 10 ай бұрын
@@AdamSmith-fe9jf hi Adam, yes yiu adjust the bass on the amp but not to much as we don’t want get it muddy response as you said but ensuring the mids and high frequencies are still clear not affected. I am not expert like yourself But I suppose your headphones and speakers try get them sounding if there bass and mids and highs produce natural to get best out of them to hear how they sound . I like bass but not a muddy bass and try get a balance of good audio . Regards mark
@AdamSmith-fe9jf
@AdamSmith-fe9jf 10 ай бұрын
@@6643bear Thank you, Mark. I am no expert. In fact, sounds like you have more knowledge. Appreciate the tips and will try that out. Hopefully I can just find a great deal on a nice set of headphones like you did. Then my Christmas will sure be merry. Thanks!
@Ivanical
@Ivanical Жыл бұрын
Hey DMS, are you guys reviewing the HD660S2 soon?
@HOTSPEEDMike
@HOTSPEEDMike 6 жыл бұрын
I'm debating between massdrop 6xx and 660s. Are these headhpones good for EDM? If so which one is better?
@user-vi3tb3bw5t
@user-vi3tb3bw5t 6 жыл бұрын
GoodBoyMIKE 650 6xx better imo
@pennfootball71
@pennfootball71 5 жыл бұрын
You will like the Neumann NDH 20's better in this price range (BUT) the Newmann's I had took about 25-36 hours of break in to open up...ESPECIALLY THE First 10 minutes it was like meh..After that wwoooooooo nice! Just don't even think about putting a new pair on for an hour! lol
@rauldon273
@rauldon273 Жыл бұрын
Hi! I recently purchased the HD660S to go join my family of HD600 & HD650 headphones. I wanted to ask; can i use the pentaconn cable that came with it with the HD600 & HD650? I know the HD660S is 150ohm & the other aforementioned two are 300ohm so not sure if the pentaconn cable will work correctly if i plugged it into my HD600/650. It also says on the Sennheiser website for the HD660S: "We packed your HD 660S with a versatile set of essential cables, each one impedance-matched with ultra-low capacitance." This is where i get confused... Is the pentaconn cable impedance-matched to the 150ohm thereby making it a bad match for the 300ohm HD600/650? Thank You in advance for the advice & clarification!
@BobKarnowski
@BobKarnowski 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review. Considering that even a budget balanced cable will run you at least $70, and these come with one, that adds to the value. Can you tell me if the cable is backwards compatible to the other cans in the series? I would also imagine that these have a better transient response than the others in the 580/600 series since they use the 700 driver. Transient response is much better in my HD700s than it is in my HD600s and HD650s.
@user-vi3tb3bw5t
@user-vi3tb3bw5t 6 жыл бұрын
Bob Karnowski hd 700s suck ass
@SoundWaveTrax
@SoundWaveTrax 6 жыл бұрын
You should review the HD800.
@zackslaststand
@zackslaststand 6 жыл бұрын
I'm listening to this video on my modded HD58Xs :P (I love the fuck out of them). I'm liking these modified HD700 driver based cans. My modded HD58Xs are by far my favourite though.
@Gabriellmcs
@Gabriellmcs 7 жыл бұрын
2 questions. NFB11 or R2R11? And did you have any problems with this weirds "poping" sounds in any of those?
@z19000
@z19000 6 жыл бұрын
Did you see the guy from innerfidelity virtually cry about how disappointed he was with these?
@RJJC
@RJJC 6 жыл бұрын
zane keenan Well, he was in the hobby for years, before the release of the 580, before the headphone craze. So seeing Sennheiser release a replacement for the HD650 that is not a direct upgrade... I could understand if he gets emotional about it. For the average joe may seem silly though, no questions about it.
@Pagaugezero
@Pagaugezero 2 жыл бұрын
@@RJJC And that was before the revision in 2019. He had the 2017 version.
@arthurwatts1680
@arthurwatts1680 6 жыл бұрын
Even if I could find a pair of secondhand 580s here in Oz, surely I'd be looking at 15-20-year old drivers ??? Based on Jude's review of the new 58X Jubilee from Massdrop, they havent recreated the 580 any more than the 660S recreates the 600 or 650. 'Legendary', indeed :(
@Little_Bitz
@Little_Bitz 6 жыл бұрын
How about the 58x jubilee... and the NFB 11 ?? Any chance of a review for those incoming?
@AlanGonzalez-ev6ur
@AlanGonzalez-ev6ur 4 жыл бұрын
if youve got an lg v30 you dont need an external dac... the lg v30's dac is amazing (ess sabre 9218p dac chip). you could use an external amp though
@Nathan-tg4gu
@Nathan-tg4gu 4 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of reviewers comparing these to the other Sennheiser headphones, but are these a decent value compared to other headphones that cost $500?
@mariocervantes6769
@mariocervantes6769 6 жыл бұрын
i have the hd600 and I love them, just wish they were a bit brighter, could the hd580 satisfy my needs?
@nico101gaming
@nico101gaming 5 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the 660S for gaming ? I currently use the Beyerdynamic DT990 And great review btw mate
@MarianIanchis
@MarianIanchis 6 жыл бұрын
Are these more detailed than Grado 325? or Grado RS2?
@BibtheChib
@BibtheChib Жыл бұрын
DMS, please blink. I am scared.
@eh7378
@eh7378 3 жыл бұрын
Would you say $250 for the HD700 is a good deal?
@Jakepf
@Jakepf 2 жыл бұрын
I was able to cop the hd 660 s for 309 new on amazon. Idk if I made a bad choice or not
@mrcrunch8000
@mrcrunch8000 4 жыл бұрын
Strange review. No mention of the added grain when compared to the hd 600 and hd 650 yet compared it to the hd 580 and claimed they are the most resolving of the bunch. I wish other owners would comment what they think about the detail of the 660s vs 600/650. I don't own a 600 or 650 but I do own a 6xx and the 660s and I would almost argue the opposite and say the 600/650 is more detailed. I feel I get more out of my 6xx when balanced compared to the 660s run balanced so I have to imagine owners of the 600 and 650 would get the same. The 660s just seems brighter making the details more obvious but I get them all on the 6xx. They seem softer requiring me to look a little harder but seem more textured and better separated. I'm not bashing the 660s so I hope it doesn't sound like that. I think they are a touch more friendly to modern music and more fun sounding.
@MechaGodzilla
@MechaGodzilla 5 жыл бұрын
You're the cutest guy reviewing headphones on here.
@gowhoeverwins
@gowhoeverwins 4 жыл бұрын
the bar isnt set very high
@hadjiperis
@hadjiperis 6 жыл бұрын
Hi I bought LG V30 last week and I 've been looking to buy a good pair of head phones to pair it with its high quality DAC. Since you own both pieces of equipment I would like to ask you if you can listen any noticeable improvement in sound quality when you play lossless (FLAC) music through V30 while the Quad DAC option is activated. In addition aren these headphones closed or open design. Kind regards.
@user-vi3tb3bw5t
@user-vi3tb3bw5t 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty obvious they are open designed... Difference between flac and regular files depends on if you can hear a difference yourself the v30 dac and amp will work regardless if it is a lossless file or not.
@thevisi0naryy
@thevisi0naryy 6 жыл бұрын
How would you compare these directly to the hd600s for the purpose of something like mixing audio? I have been doing tons of research trying to find something that sounds like the Hd600's and its clear accuracy, but with slightly better soundstage and bass response.
@luigismilazzo
@luigismilazzo 4 жыл бұрын
What do you prefer between these and the dt880?
@tpacalypse
@tpacalypse 6 жыл бұрын
How do the 580 compare to the 650 in bass and soundstage? Had the 650 a few years ago. I know the sound but never heard the 580's.
@biomechanism1
@biomechanism1 8 ай бұрын
Its crazy how this goes from cant pick a favorite inside HD 6** series to "C" Tier. Subjectively Audioinfluencers on YT are full of shit
@green8923
@green8923 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a good place to find HD 580's that's not sketchy?
@elias38
@elias38 5 жыл бұрын
Will they fit for listening to a house music?
@katalysis
@katalysis 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for normalizing your intro volume with your video more.
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 6 жыл бұрын
Won't you make a review of the 58X jubilee? Ain't that basically what you want?
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 6 жыл бұрын
Someone is sending a pair in then I'll be doing a review
@vijeykumar7429
@vijeykumar7429 2 жыл бұрын
The hd 58x sold by drop is the exact same thing (if you remove the foam pads that sit against the driver), with a glossy paint job. And it's a steal because you can get it for 150$. Now that it's out, I don't know why the 660s exist anymore. I mean nobody should buy them, atleast if they've done their research. Ideally these shouldn't exist now because it's misleading customers.
@manjuprakash738
@manjuprakash738 2 жыл бұрын
Can we connect it with mobile through usb to 3.5mm Jack
@shreddherring
@shreddherring 4 жыл бұрын
Would've been nice to comment more on their sound vs the 700. I'm torn between these two, and cant find any reviews comparing their sound, only remarking on similar looking drivers...
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t want the HD700. It’s got a lot of problems.
@shreddherring
@shreddherring 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the very fast reply! I had come across some forum discussions saying that the 700's quirks can be rectified using some EQ software, not sure if you've heard of that before, but it sounds like you didn't get on with them
@scottpeterson2840
@scottpeterson2840 7 жыл бұрын
who did win these?
@johnson42069
@johnson42069 6 жыл бұрын
I got the 650s for Christmas and I *LOVE* them so much! Under 300 us dollars, what amp dac combo do you think is best?
@jacobgriner9569
@jacobgriner9569 6 жыл бұрын
teknowafel sam schiit magnum (amp) and schiit modi (dac) which both are 200 bucks in total. Can't beat the price.
@johnson42069
@johnson42069 6 жыл бұрын
jacob griner uhhh ive been told theyre distorted though... was looking at the nfb 11 but people dont like that either. What about something like a darkvoice paired with an ifi dac... im willing to pay the 500 if it makes the difference.
@jacobgriner9569
@jacobgriner9569 6 жыл бұрын
there's always gonna be a complain bro. I'm pretty sure there's only distortion when using the volume knob. From all the reviews I read and watched, they were rated great and has the best bang for the buck especially when you are new to the audiophile world. Well, if you are willing to spend 500, then I can no longer be of any help bc i dont know amps at that price range and ofc they are gonna be better amp dac combos than schiit's. Hope you find what you're looking for and lmk if you do cause I'm curious about it.
@shaunpearson7905
@shaunpearson7905 3 жыл бұрын
I've had 2 600s both eventually failed in a driver or at those tiny, tiny connections. Loved the sound, but enough is enough. By the way - I sit there. Sit there and listen sometimes while writing or reading. No good reason for the failure even at the 5 years mark.
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