Sennheiser HD820 _(Z Reviews)_ A Flawed Beauty

[@Berserkism]

For this kind of money, any issue is one too many. Too many other amazing options for less money.

[@Leonard_Lewis]

Amen brother, Amen!

[@hugoperegrina6571]

I couldnt put it anj better.

[@LordVictorHalgaard]

@Ruby Badilla Audeze's do also tend to perform like they cost half of what they do, to be fair. Not that they can't sound nice.

[@leonisbacher1772]

Just get the empyrean

[@SimpleAndyRock]

@Ruby Badilla Audeze closed headphones perform much worse....

[@HoveKB]

I’m glad you were so critical of these. They’re too expensive to let them get away with anything but perfection.

[@o.f.ftrack3444]

I've never heard the 820's so I can't agree or disagree with the review. However, in the general sense, the comment section is proof of how little the average person thinks for themselves. Zeos didn't bash the headphones...his only complaint about the sound was the bass. Yet somehow, that was enough for people(who've never heard them)to confidently say that they dodged a bullet by not getting them. How likely is it that any of you would have come to the same conclusion about the bass? Just last week i saw a few people raving about how amazing their new 820 was. Are they wrong? Would they have still bought it if they saw this review?

[@Phamtom020]

dude. why the fuck will i think for myself if i can't afford those headphones. let me use this means of entretainment known as the youtube comment section for busting this things i can't buy to the ground. If i'm a sheep, imma have the best time being it

[@BerserkeR_031]

Very true, the HD820's do alot of things very good and clean but when you've tried the HD800S and listen to the HD820, it's kind of they want to replicate the HD800S's but can't get there alot of people have this. It lost the sparkle on top and the mids feel a bit lifeless. Eventhough i say this if i'm looking for a new pair of closed cans i'd always demo these again to refresh my memory, these are by no means a bad headphone but the HD800S are way more enjoyable to listen to to get that refrence type of sound people should look for something different at this pricerange because of the loss of soundstage and lifeless mids and the low end always felt weird to me. Literally too much problems HD800S is still the best Sennheiser headphone.

[@Berkanann]

For this money I would starve just a little longer to get the Empyrean.

[@Whyamibzsdmh]

I tried these in a sennheiser store once. They were quite the experience but I wouldn't buy them unless they were about the same price as the HD800S.

[@johnyang799]

Can't think of this thing over 300.

[@Assimilator702]

John Yang Yes for this price Sennheiser should at what Focal is doing. An Elear is $480 and are built 4X better.

[@Krankynator]

@@Assimilator702 Where do you get Elears for 480 bucks?

[@Scfng08]

@@Krankynator 478 on amazon

[@Krankynator]

@@Scfng08 This sounds very fishy to me

[@drefann]

I am looking forward to Z reviews on Pornhub. As most of us are I assume.

[@schrodingerscat20]

They need to create a new category, "Cables"

[@WiiNV]

Z reviews Hentai L😂L

[@eezus]

You should make a Spotify playlist of like say best treble or best bass. I’m interested now that you said it.

[@Ultima952]

You're unto something and I like where you're taking it.

[@antoinep9733]

Django and soundstage & imaging ☑️

[@waynebruce24893]

Zeos better do this

[@gnunard]

Hey Zeos, Do you really just have one pair of pants or is it one design and you just have dozens of them?

[@ZReviews]

I have like 5 I wear around the house. I usually end up doing 3-4 final reviews in a day so it looks like I never change. With catch-up on dailies you may see me wearing the same pants forever.

[@thiscorrosion900]

Wait till Sennheiser releases the all-leather HD999s, that come with a free pair of black leather pants.

[@forrestlin3401]

had this thing for a month, want really impressed for what they cost, exchanged them for the 800S's never looked back

[@hpol3603]

Forrest Lin 800S is way better then the 820.

[@BerserkeR_031]

A wise man, the HD800S's do sound better. The HD820 tried to do something it's not, too many problems.

[@Deadxet]

those are the most beautiful headphones I've ever seen, holy shit.

[@zakblue]

Interesting comments on the 820s. A bit harsh I think. I find the bass is just about well...perfect. I'll also add that i'm a classical musician by trade that plays a bass instrument so my hearing is very closely honed to this register. I'm very very picky on this. I've owned two pairs of the HD800 (early and late serial) and the ie800 and I like the 820 the best out of all of them. The comfort is better than the 800 for me, the sound sig top end is smoothest out of the lot (for me). They are a reference headphone so they won't make the shitty recordings shine, so people of course shouldn't expect that. I agree about the wire but I've managed to straighten and it runs behind my setup so i don't see it/have to worry about it. Apart from that i'm really happy with them. Also they seem easy enough to drive from something like my Audioquest red, not that I would ever take these travelling but that is a bonus. FWIW I also got an amazing deal on them so didn't pay anywhere near retail. They look absolutely ridiculous on the head too so be ready for that prospective buyers!

[@MrBoriskr]

Thank you sir! I've watched your Sennheisers reviews and bought A-T a2000z, they seem perfect to me.

[@Tiger24kicks]

These are my dream headphones and a must get for me

[@openmindian]

I've compared these vs HD800S when they came out for an hour or 2. HD820s felt "stuffy". Less transparent, less soundstage. More bass, more compressed. A bit boomy (in comparison to HD800S, still good). Definitely not worth the money. IMO these are worse than HD800S, but that's because I don't have problems with their treble.

[@aythatsme3607]

in your opinion, what is worth the money or what would you suggest for EDM and hip-hop, type stuff. thanks openmindian

[@iluvj00]

@@aythatsme3607 Planar magnetic headphones for a good low end.

[@yndsmu2457]

Been waiting on a review from you on these since '18, excited!

[@matthewhilty4209]

Ty Zeos for the review, they looked so cool i was going to buy them then return them if i didn't like them, but now I will look elsewhere for a premium closed back, Bass distortion is a deal breaker on closed 2k+ can.

[@Mackr_5]

Better living through chemistry - queens of the stone age. One of the best tracks to listen to with high end headphones

[@ElChinos88]

I own the 820s and I think I get a better seal on THEEZE due to my big head so I don't experience the bass distortion. Also not sure why you dont like the wire, I think you said the cable was great on the HD 800/s.

[@RealHIFIHelp]

I you like these then try Focal Utopia, or Abyss, much more natural and real. I owned all hd 800, and they really all disapointed me with their lack of music and natural color. They just sound too good to be believable, like music that is autotunes. Even the old lcd3 totally crushes everything called sennheiser up to hd820. But I have to say that Sennheiser Orpheus, wow that must be like the best headphone in the world. But also costing 10x more.

[@BerserkeR_031]

He's kinda weird on that. The wire is perfectly fine trust me. Who yanks on his wire when that little piece in the middle hangs up at the front of the desk. Mine never does, and i have all the Sennheiser cables; 6.3mm 4.4mm 4pin XLR. Hell, you could even loosely braid them to make them a little shorter if you wanted to and let the braided part lay on your legs and then let it come up weightless again into the headphones. But the HD800S is the better sounding Sennheiser headphone when you spend alot of hours listening to both of them. Too many problems with the HD820 it's trying to do something it's not, that money would be better spend on a can that excels in it's own category. And the guy above me comparing Focal, Abyss, and LCD's doesn't admit that the HD800S has it's own place. It's one of the best headphones ever created comparing it with such a broad range of cans that all do alot of things different tells me you're just looking for a different sound, the HD800S's should be able to still sit next to that other can because it's stupid to drag a can down that's not even from the same brand and serve 2 completely different purposes. Edit: so many people change their opinion on the 820 demo video, even Zeos talks way better about the HD820's there. Kind of funny when they don't A/B.

[@thomassvevo]

I appreciate a man who appreciates Ozen

[@sleepyrhythms6668]

After hearing these at CanJam SoCal, I'd take the LCD-XC any day

[@NatiiixLP]

They cost $3k+ where I live, about 500 km from the Sennheiser HQ. How the hell do all these European companies sell their products cheaper in NA?

[@jlefebre6001]

These or the closed ethers? EDIT: Nvm, answered @9:15

[@johnjohnson76830]

4 knuckles wide, knuckle and a half deep. Giggity

[@cagaming9724]

3:51 "It's very creamy music." I don't know why that made me laugh like an idiot.

[@AlphaXray]

I've listened to Glass Animals for years now, and that's honestly one of the best descriptions of their sound lol.

[@cagaming9724]

@@AlphaXray I mean yeah it IS accurate, but still funny lmao.

[@AlphaXray]

@@cagaming9724 oh no I agree, I thought it was hilarious.

[@WaRRioRofLight.]

I wanna know how the 850 would sound like.

[@georgeforeman89]

Hey z. This isn’t relevant to this review, but I just purchased the Micca MB42X because of your rave reviews. I also bought the Sony 3 way speakers (the css3 whatever) and they are amazing! I hope the Micca’s live up to the hype, too. Just wanted to say thanks for what you do. It makes me happy :)

[@LJBrazil]

Im not too much of an audiohead but I do like to have the best quality of things. I rather spend the money and work my way up to realizing the potential. Makes it really easy to tell the difference when ever trying another cheaper end model. If this is not the best for closed in headphones, do you or anyone else have any other recommendations?

[@j0rzeh]

I own HD650 at the moment should I buy the HD660S HD800S or the HD820? next.

[@RobNotANumber]

$3500 here in NZ. $2500 for the 800s.... damn. Heard them on the weekend. Sound good but really...

[@cornerliston]

I can't speak for the 820 but 800 is the best fitting headphone. Yes they are large but the fit just so damn nice. EVEN with glasses. I have a few headphones an no one fits as good.

[@mr.vore_659]

sexy headphones and the plentiful amount of shinobu figures thats why i fuking love this channel

[@Zack-pl9np]

Those are beautiful looking

[@jeanpierresnyman652]

Zeos: _Talks about bass and treble._ Midrange: Am I a joke to you?

[@mrpositronia]

modern popular music seemingly has no mid range these days, so in some cases, it could be a moot point! :p

[@ZReviews]

It's very middle.. Sort of in the Middleish.. Much more in-between bass and treble then I would like.. Center-Sound

[@tenveri]

@@ZReviews The mids sounded really off to me, on the hd820 :/

[@forrestlin3401]

the mids on these borderline offended me

[@Leonhart_93]

@@mrpositronia We don't talk about modern "popular" music. Such music is like watching a mute black and white movie.

[@av0511]

Marshall Monitor review?

[@marksafe5463]

Totally random... but yes somebody needs to review those things.

[@l67swap1]

The hd820 , the roomphone 😂

[@shant]

Looking at Denon AH-D5200 for Gaming, Music, Movies. Comfort #1 , Reliability #2, Sound #3. Should I buy something else? Change my mind.

[@disismrc]

Thank you for all of your reviews!!! In this video you mention you used AT cable for the NDH20, could you please advise which cable exactly?

[@aaronbillinger4664]

Can you get a playlist of your test tracks i am new to this.

[@TisMeBc]

I find my neumans to be super comfortable and i just dont know what to do, i have stretched them, replaced the pads and headband and im just lost now. they hurt my jaw and my head and i just cant figure out a way around them to the point im just considering buying something else

[@JE-um4vz]

Do you mean uncomfortable?

[@TisMeBc]

​@@JE-um4vz lol i definitely did, although I think there was something else going on. in general they are just super heavy. sound is good but thats not the most important thing all the time

[@dnalekaw4699]

the limo connectors on the 800's are insanely reliable though...

[@ZReviews]

Because nobody dare unplug them over and over.

[@TeleporterM11]

Damm...I have a list of 2 brands that are preferred by reviewers. AKG and Sony. Ever time I hear complaints about theses AKG and Sony replaces them.

[@davejohnson2702]

but the hd800s does have a 2nd harmonic distortion to imitate the bass. just does it very well

[@horhey4063]

Then: I only read PlayBoy for the articles Now: I only watch PornHub for the reviews Keep up the good work Z

[@chrisdacosta4182]

LoL

[@hamedshahr]

Did anyone notice that the D shape is inverse? That curved part should've been in the rear part of pads.

[@harrisonkay575]

What’s is another recommendation on a pair of headphones at this price point that you would recommend?.

[@WaRRioRofLight.]

Koss khp30i

[@TisMeBc]

Think these would make for a better pair of cans for gaming then the Argon Mk3 ?, money aside ofc having a hard time narrowing down a gaming pair of closed backs

[@isabellaarslani2825]

Wich amp/ dac would you recommend for the hd820

[@ericmoss6110]

You should review the new SVS Prime Pinnacle speakers. With your new apartment you said that towers may be more feasible... :)

[@guyschwarz9549]

Tin p1 or HD820?

[@gaurd3]

I wonder how many people that are in the market for HD820s are going to be playing Run The Jewels- oh moma. You got Black eye peas BooM Boom Pow., Portis Head Machine gun , M.o.o.n-hydrogen and many other bass songs that demonstrate bass and well as dynamics.. Testing that repeating 4 note , Run the jewels song on high end cans is akin of testing a F1 car on 87 gas. Z a bass head.

[@spelisha]

I’m asking this here as I have the 800, 700, and 600 - and I use tidal. Any thoughts on SONY 360? Like what the hell? Have you done any testing with this new audio format? On tidal you can’t even go back to 24/96 lossless master on some song mastered tracks with this new 360. Any thoughts? I think they sound dead - more live like - but realistically like a bad high school band concert - loss of vocals etc

[@robertburghardt8070]

Sony 360 is shitty. Tidal is great (I have a Premium account) but Qobuz is better. There is more sound, more frequency range, it is like the top and bottom on the song is cut out. But I love Tidal, because the app is better and 2 € out of my 19.95€ goes to the interpret I'm listend the most in the month.. It is all so difficult...

[@zeek781]

if i listen to alot of types of music but mostly electronic/dance, and i play games with them, would the hd 660 s or lcd2 classic be better? the classic when it goes on sale as b stock is just a tad bit more then the hd 660 s my current headphones are the massdrop hd 6xx please and thanks

[@SKY11211213]

Neumann NDH bought last week and shipped to me an everything I every used sounds kinda bad or neutral. M50x always were bad. Beyerdynamic treble suicide kings. Audio Technica AD700 great warmer than Jubilee. Jubilee sometimes better especially were high hats need more volume and some femal voices. Good bass and then NDH20 are just best of the best. I think the Massdrop Beyerdynamic are much worse but I ll never now because its a limited run and I like mass produced / always buyable headphones. Z is the most unbiased reviewer imo. Many just say it is great and never had good headphones. Even some tech reviewers only use bluetooth garbage. If you never try listening to good ones you will never know how much you will miss out.

[@MazeFrame]

Has any company dared to put cinch on the headphone?

[@samehtemplel8126]

I own a pair of AKG‘s K812 Pro but i can‘t fully enjoy them due to their full open back design (which i really like soundwise), because our PC desks stand in the back of our living room and well, there is always some noise (TV, GF Gaming too, etc.)^^ Which Closed Headphones with a good soundstage (more neutral with Good highs for closed ones and no „Bass monster“) could you guys recommend? Price Range about 600-1500€ EDIT: i use an Fostex HP A4 BL as my amp. EDIT 2: found a HD820 as B-Stock with full Warranty directly on the Sennheiser online Store for 1496€, never saw them anywhere cheaper, i'm so hyped :D Anyone got a tutorial for me on how to wait 2-3 days for new headphones? ;)

[@Bootrosgali]

How are they going? Think might do same can get Irish outlet refurb for same number in Euros want portable endgame and all need to know now is that can EQ and dac/amp bass boost these bad boys and they'll be fucking amazeballs

[@duranxv]

How do these compare to Fostex TH-900 mk2's?

[@MFHRaptor]

Hey, PASTA! Verdict?

[@strikye7]

That is enough to hit G-spot if you use fingers 6:09

[@aziraphel256]

Tried them with glasses and could not get a good seal. Hated them. Tried the 800 next to them. Loved them. Now i own them.

[@bounce1721]

You tried the 800 or the 800S?

[@aziraphel256]

@@bounce1721 tried the 820 and the normal 800. The 800 was astounding. The 820 was terrible. Maybe my ears are wrong. Yes, the peak at 6khz can be annoying on the 800 but can be minimized

[@ojasadhikari4618]

Why do I feel the stax l700 are better, zeos?

[@lalohuicochea1]

What song were you talking about from glass animals? I found the album zaba but I wanted to know what song you were talking about.

[@sonnenhafen5499]

how about listening to them?

[@lalohuicochea1]

@@sonnenhafen5499 could do that, but still wouldn't know which song it is..

[@ZReviews]

Was it Flip? You didn't time code

[@sonnenhafen5499]

@@lalohuicochea1 oh ah ok, now i understand.. next time i try to edge with a bit more competence xD

[@Kyodaikuma]

I need a portable dac amp for this. Any suggestions?

[@sherm137]

Z, do you have a soundstage playlist? If so, can you list some of your favorites?

[@ZReviews]

That would be a good addition. Id start with Yosi Horikawa

[@Animatedron]

Z Reviews his new album is great!

[@gundum1o1]

@@ZReviews right!

[@MrNickster12345]

Hopefully someone sends you the focal stellia's.

[@jasonlax4112]

Zeos.... Creating enemies of old school fanboys since 2010.

[@ibrahimbasic4575]

Glass animals zaba is a playlist.... what song in the playlist are you talking about

[@ZReviews]

The whole album

[@cooleycollege01]

Consider Bitchute, that would be a good option if you get boned by youtube Zeos.

[@harrytran7754]

Ozen? How irredeemable, Zeos. How irredeemable And I love it

[@nickpelayo3172]

Ozen is like the best girl that year

[@dawnthepitz]

Z1R vs HD820?

[@stefpats]

Ok these are out of my price range,i could go up to 300-350 max.Can anyone that actually has any Sennheiser tell me which one are best all arounds for gaming mainly and music secondly with a small taste for bass?Gonna use them with AE-5 and/or external amp most probably Mayflower Arc.So which ones? 598,600 or others?

[@xephyr2371]

650/660s I like 660s more. I am right you’re welcome

[@mclement052164]

Just bought Audeze LCD XC. I'm happy with my decision. All my other HP's are open back. Wanted something closed. As a side note, if you connect LCD-XC to 4 pin XLR, turn your amp volume down from where it was with an unbalanced cable! WHOA!

[@zackw4941]

I guess it's polite that they actually ask your ears, what position they want to take the tremble in? Maybe the Germans are finally going soft on us..

[@thelastrhino2581]

The expertise of reviewer Zeos: "it feels like cheap plastic". Reality: it's Leona fiberglass reinforced plastic, far more premium and suited to purpose than metal. But yes Zeos, keep churning out "quality" reviews.

[@ZReviews]

It could be made of diamonds. Feels like cheap plastic. If I could know NOTHING about a headphone or dac or amp until it was on my desk that would be the best case. Frankly I'd like to not even know the prices of the things I am reviewing.

[@Meme_Connaisseur]

The 820 distorts less than the 800 in the bass.

[@1TheWolfKing1]

indeed put em in high and i mean high volume and they dont distort even a bit i love mine!

[@ajzepp8976]

I think I may be the only person who doesn't care for Sennheiser headphones. The only one I liked was the Massdrop tweaked HD6xx.

[@nickrath4545]

god i hope you review the lcd 4z

[@spud1300]

hahaha, 7 high treble songs in a row.... clean blood out of ears.... hahaha LOVE IT!!

[@Mark-hh9du]

Still worth if I can get them for 1500usd?

[@WillJukedTheBox]

Mark no

[@alancrome3684]

The problem is when you get to $2k or more, you'd want more style and build. Not plastic workphones with some flare

[@LeDechaine]

Cable of these look like the tail of a dirty, abandoned cat, lol.

[@qrr857]

day 3 of telling Zeos to review the iBasso IT01

[@PrincessPastaAudio]

he no listen.

[@qrr857]

@@PrincessPastaAudio im going to post this on every video until he reviews them lol

[@PrincessPastaAudio]

@@qrr857 I support this.

[@whoknows6002]

I've heard of those but didn't believe they existed.

[@Ben-ig3bf]

How tall are you? 981,5 Knuckles

[@slowmopoke]

Greeting from Dagestan

[@IbadGrammarX]

i wish i have that kind money but right now i accpt my life i got now

[@varshoee]

Only Sennheiser can sell a headphone made out of cheap plastic with $2400 price tag.

[@LordVictorHalgaard]

See, that's the lack of research that annoys me here.

[@ZReviews]

It just didn't feel premium on the parts that weren't Concave glass. They need to adjust their formula

[@Leonhart_93]

​@@ZReviews Metal parts =/= premium. The light polymer they are using for the 800 series is way more expensive that a few cents worth of metal parts.

[@Jakugen0]

Space age polymer my guy

[@SarusukeTakatsuki]

i wanted some corpse party waifu wallpaper or something for a title like that lmao

[@RoninWalker]

made in abyss!!! wait is Z from the abyss?

[@Bootrosgali]

So now can get these for 1399euro I'm interested. Audeze are just too fucking heavy. I'm looking for big bullet end game portable , juiced with a portable whatsit or whatever, and I would just love the Audeze lcd2c 2021 be it but ffs like 700+ grams ? The Senns certainly don't even look like giving the Lcd2c'21 anywhere near run for money in low end but powered right and EQ tafuq and at the new lower prices refurbed i think there's a very tasty prospect of an amazing beyond amazing set of portable cans here

[@soulfulfool]

portable? those huge 820? xD well there are not so many closed cans at least hi end that can be portable

[@yack9142]

ready for those vokyl erupts to drop?

[@adambrown8867]

Stating the obvious, these are supposed to be used with the matching 820 amp would be my guess.

[@tenveri]

not like the amp will make them sound significantly different whatsoever

[@adambrown8867]

@@tenveri I doubt that, but again, I'm only stating the obvious. There would be no need of different headphones & different amps if they all sounded the same.

[@tenveri]

@@adambrown8867 note the significantly, the gear will never make a headphone sound fundamentally different that would be crazy

[@adambrown8867]

@@tenveri To say damping factor of an amp is irrelevant to the sound would be ignorant.

[@zakblue]

Hey Zeos any chance you could review the Airpods? I think you may be surprised with them all things considering.

[@halimj7]

Bismillah A few reviewers said the 800s has distorted bass - Tyll and Metalfi. I loved the 800.

[@LordVictorHalgaard]

The 800S has very slightly less precise bass than the original.

[@johnyang799]

800 is worst.

[@Assimilator702]

halimj7 Distortion in the bass is not a bad thing if done properly. Tubes add distortion to music. Lots of people own tube amps.

[@barchetype6430]

Would rather buy T5p.2 by Beyer dynamic. $700 in Amazon and it has been said to be a perfect mate with the HD800.

[@gcb2101]

T5p also has distorted bass, too much mid bass.

[@bucketofinternet2744]

Nothing justifies this kind of price for headphones absolutely nothing

[@ambroseathello]

You can say that about literally anything. Are wristwatches also not worth high prices?

[@TheHope12322]

I want to see you try the HD 820 with the Creative X7. You need to review the Sennheiser GSP 600...

[@RealHIFIHelp]

Why do more companies not make headphones that actually rests on the head and not the ears? Don't companies realize that when you pressure the ears, you are pushing a nerve? That's what I like about the 800 series. Other than that, I find the sound too lifeless and boring and cold and fake, it does not feel real. Sounds like synthetic farting upsampled.

[@TeslaWasHere]

--Listened to on NDH-20s. I can barely take these off.

[@666PANDEMONIUM]

Who is the waifu on the wallpaper?

[@kenabi]

one of the iterations of rogue, from the x-men.

[@playboicatrissock5867]

Respect for Run the Jewels