Sensibly Speaking Podcast

[@darrenbath9160]

Very true no group or person should dictate anything to you!

[@joeymacasieb1636]

I love listening to y’all talk! I’m an ex-Mormon like Jonathan. I served a mission about 2 years ago and sent home early essentially for thought crime. Keep doing what y’all are doing. These cults need to be exposed!

[@darrenbath9160]

Parent need to be responsible for their children and should question everything.

[@care4jcutube]

Excellent discussion! I really appreciate having multiple views

[@vegacool1]

How does the rate of abuse in cults compare to the avg population?

[@khallo151]

About to listen - excited about the three apostates! Already depressed about the topic but it’s important. Thank you - always my favorite guests.

[@jewell92]

So glad that Jonathan explained how there are millions of scientologists! Lol! Great show!

[@philipgahan9649]

Brilliant descriptions of unravalling the mind traps - I like the desciption of mind virus, and fighting off the effects of the virus by developing reason based antibodies - once defeted these viruses (religions) tend not to reinfect as the intibodies are ready to defend.

[@nancybassett4413]

What a wonderful show - and you guys had so fun doing it. I loved it!

[@vegacool1]

Where do you find data on abuse specific to each cult?

[@RB3Vids]

Danny Masterson for jail!

[@realonlinejobs3922]

Enjoyed that Video!

[@spikeoramathon]

The automatic trust given to members of the clergy by their congregations as noticed by the Australian Royal Commission is called *clericalism* .

[@notmyrealname7636]

I was thinking about the “using theology against the victim”, “when you get baptized you get forgiven for all of this”. Mostly I think that this is just an excuse a predator might use to silence their victims. But considering all the other things people in various groups believes, and considering how far into delusion one might go when deep in a particularly strict religion or control group. Do some of these people actually believe their own rationalisations? Looking back to the Catholic Church scandals. I remember speculating that you have a system were if a priest truly believe then they can in essence abuse a child, go into confession, talk about what they have done, maybe even display genuine signs of regret and self-loathing, be told to do penance, recommit themselves to god, and all is forgiven. Meaning there is no legal consequences to their actions, no real punishment for what they have done, and ultimately their religious institution is telling them that they've been cleared of sin. So a priest might go through that and feel like they've been “weak”, but that they've “done the right thing” and now they're alright with god and the church. At that point the institution is basically both a legal and psychological support system for predators.

[@andreadiamond7115]

Couldn’t watch this fast enough, three of my faves! So very sadly interesting, disgusting and maddening.

[@linasithlady7377]

"No atheist has ever killed someone in the name of Nothing...!" - Jim Jefferies It was mostly for love, food or money. 😁

[@notacoincollector5165]

Chris, we need either the name of that Supreme Court Case mentioned near the end of this informative discussion or a Link to it. Thanks.

[@jewell92]

Victims tend to feel that they need to protect their abusers. Very sad. A sense of shame? I don't know.

[@SheNiteOwl]

Italian Vaper The victims are children that have most often been groomed by the adult first. They mess with the child's brain before their body. They also often use threats of violence against someone the child loves if they tell what is happening to them. It is as much about mental abuse as it is physical abuse. Also a child may be so young when the abuse starts that to them it is normal. It is the only life they have known. It is not until they are older that they realize it is not.

[@darrenbath9160]

People should listen to whistle blowers because it takes courage to speak the truth. ,

[@beach81959]

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[@dwaynedibley1396]

goddamn it.... 4th :(

[@SheNiteOwl]

chris j 😆