Sensors aren't stupid: a rant

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[@TypeSpectrum]

"Se - Ni: need to do things in order to make sense of them" "Ni - Se: need to make sense of things in order to do them"

[@NightCloudI]

That reminds me when I do maths at school. I can't do anything before I get the concept and see the process in my head. That's why it's much easier for me to learn through the theory then the practice.

[@7freelemons]

This is so true for me! - INFJ

[@NoticeMeSenpaiii]

I read the title as "senators aren't stupid." Sensors makes a lot more sense.

[@dearkristin]

Hahahaha

[@sarahnelson8836]

It’s the kind of intelligence they have that’s the problem…. Manipulation sure, empathy sometimes, social-emotional reasoning and academic understanding very few…..

[@larsswig912]

@@sarahnelson8836 are you talking about senators or sensors?

[@blenderleaf5516]

Making the mother of all omelettes, senpai Can't fret over every egg

[@ashleytan6006]

I don’t like people deciding one type is automatically “evil” or “stupid”. I think it’s dumb to decide entirely unrelated things based on an MBTI type- like an MBTI type, as you said, is just a preference! It’s not your entire life, it’s not your morals, it’s not your innate talent in math or sports it has nothing to do with any of that, it’s just a preference, a way of understanding the human personality. It is not, desperately not a prediction of your hobbies. You are not a stereotype. You are a human being. Also all the smart people in my life right now are sensing so-

[@tatyannafrancis9935]

Someone tried to convince me once that ESFJs are the source of true evil in the world. Some people though 🤣🤣

[@BrianFreytag]

As an INTJ, I enjoy people assuming I'm an evil mastermind. It keeps the people away lol

[@shar3859]

I know right? MBTI is immensely fun and I love it, but generalizations and stereotypes run rampant in the community. It's dumb how people automatically hate certain types because of their experiences, or they reduce a type to a caricature. MBTI is also flawed to a certain extent and shouldn't be treated as a Bible to life.

[@justjennaish]

AMEN!!!!

[@SimoneEppler]

Yup!!

[@averagecatlover4635]

I find it pretty hilarious how some people will say stuff like "sensors are so close minded 😡" like idk man judging someone's intelligence based on their fucking mbti type of all things seems pretty close minded to me - istp

[@Shadow-zf5uc]

I agree. Honestly I view the mbti as a personality test and nothing more. I don't use it to judge I.Q. or intelligence. Plus I've always been jealous of how clear a lot of sensors are when communicating and how practical a lot of sensors are. As a pretty chaotic INFP I really envy that.

[@kthsantisaresuckingmydick.748]

yeah, loool. people just see what want to see for convince themselves of a reality that dont exist. like, im an ISFP, i can easily say: "the others types are not artistic like me", just because i want to think it like that or feel superior for an internet description where im the only one who "do that". I notice it so much of some INTJ and INFP friends, they are like: "no one is so good at it like me, believe me, please, i read it on a twitter post of a random 😭🙏"

[@DocKrazy]

What do you mean making binary judgements and generalising what amounts to millions of people is close minded? We all know there is only two types of people: IQ under 100 and IQ over 150.

[@choonblaze]

I think you're confusing or not using the right terms for it. Close minded in this context doesn't refer to "being a bigot, close minded idiot" no, it's simply "less aware and not even trying to increase awareness/knowledge/truth". Sensors are ,by design, way behind in terms of awareness and seeing patterns than intuitives. It's not an insult, it's a simple truth. Naturally, it makes sensors come across as shallow and dumb most of the time.

[@averagecatlover4635]

​@@choonblaze even by your definition of close mindedness, these "intuitives" who call sensors close minded and stupid ARE close minded, because they're unwilling to accept the fact that their skewed perception of reality could be false, and that real people don't fit these binary metrics for what they consider intelligent and unintelligent. judging someone's intelligence based on a pseudoscientific personality type just seems ridiculous to me, and it IS close minded (the people who call sensors close minded are the same people who say sensors are stupid). besides, the dictionary definition of close mindedness is "having or showing rigid opinions or a narrow outlook." how does this even correlate to sensing? that's not even true lol, sensors can notice patterns and stuff like that as well as intuitives can, they just don't rely on them as a main method of processing information. didn't you watch the video? in fact according to the theory sensing and intuition are used together, even if the intuition is inferior. preference ≠ capability. everyone is capable of making connections and noticing patterns. saying that sensors are incapable of using intuition is like saying that intuitives can't use the 5 senses. frankly, all of this "sensors are stupid and close minded 👹" talk just seems like a bunch of idiots trying to validate their special snowflake complex by putting other people down to feel better about themselves

[@PeterJohnson-rh5hi]

The two smartest people I know are both sensors. I think the cool thing about sensor intelligence is the attention to detail; relaying things in rich description after experiencing it only once, or putting together complex structures without missing the slightest intricacy. Intuitives need to go out of our way to appreciate these glimmers of genius, rather than stereotype those unlike us as "Stupid," or falsely purport that "Only intuitives can be abstract."

[@TaunellE]

I'm only abstract. I need Sensors or I'd drown in the tub.

[@augustooliveira518]

Honestly all of the smartest people I know are intuitives. However a trend that I see in sensor is even though they are not the smartest of the bunch, they will work or study their heads off to get something when, us, intuitives (especially those with Ne like me) mostly don't do it. Idk if it's really a trend or I've misjudged things.

[@TaunellE]

@wildflower Shh! Lmao 😂

[@PeterJohnson-rh5hi]

@@augustooliveira518 Intuitives tend to have "big picture" intelligence and either draw connections and patterns between the details (Ne) or extrapolate many long-reaching implications from a limited amount of information (Ni). This is why Ne users create the impression of learning quickly, because we get the broader, holistic picture of the topic from even a small amount of information. The consequence of being a "big picture" person is that we rarely learn (or even notice) details or hard realities staring us straight in the face. The point is, intelligence comes in all different shades, and you have to recognize that even if we don't work as hard for our abstraction or idealization, intuitives have to work harder for those details or tangibles. It's not that either type is universally smarter or dumber, it's that when we talk about sensor intelligence, we tend to forget about the kinds of intelligence that we ourselves are blind to. I veered a bit away from that message in my comment because I was trying to shamelessly compliment sensors, but it's more important to appreciate wisdom in whatever form it presents rather than rank ourselves unduly.

[@Magihyun]

@@PeterJohnson-rh5hi Your understanding of intuition is perfect.

[@ip43627]

as an isfp i really relate to this, most of my friends (like 90%) are intuitives and although they don't make me feel stupid or anything, they do have different ways of having fun compared to me. i recently went on a countryside weekend getaway with a couple friends and while i was expecting this relaxing trip to be full of bbqs, watching movies, visiting local towns, and going on walks in the hills, my friends wanted to stay inside and read/debate political and philosophical theories they're interested in. now i studied history and philosophy in uni so I'm v capable of doing this but wow it is not my idea of fun on a relaxing weekend trip... us sensor types are far from stupid, we just have a different idea of fun and people should respect that :)

[@Noelciaaa]

Your friends are weird. I'm an ENTP and I don't get why they would pay for hotel etc and just stay inside. U can talk all year round, a getaway is for a change of scenery, to clear up your mind so that truly novel ideas can take hold. I'd be very much happy to walk around the place aimlessly with you. Holidays are about exploration!

[@Noelciaaa]

Also I don't see why both can't be done. I like walking and talking the most! :D. It's even scientifically proven that being in an open space promotes more abstract thinking, which should appeal to intuitives in theory, no? Whenever i feel stuck on a project i go out alone and suddenly untangling an issue becomes so easy!

[@choonblaze]

As an ENTP, I would explore the hell out of that mofo know what I'm saying. Sitting inside with a bunch of boring peeps while it's nice outside is not how ENTPs roll. ENTP sensor confirmed lolol

[@firespawnie537]

I'm an ENFP and I like all the things you mentioned as well as your friends. And I can do them at the same time lmaoooo :P

[@sourgrapes7482]

Me an intuitive who met an ENTP on a camping trip and spent the whole weekend arguing with him-

[@alinedasilvafrost7720]

You help me understand my ESTP bf so much. So when he says "dont know" to a topic its not that he doesnt wanna talk about it, it could be that he literally doesnt know what to say about it cause he doesnt have data! I never thought of that cause intuitives almost always come up with some bs

[@ninaportoc]

LMAO this is so freaking true i'm dying

[@SpotlessMind871]

I had this exact same pattern with my ex. As an EFNP I would spend a lot of time talking about every random hypothesis that popped in my head and the answer was always "yeah it could be, I don't know" as he definitely didn't feel comfortable exploring unknown subjects

[@sofitocyn100]

so true. As an enfp I always have an opinion and stuff to say about virtually every topic imaginable

[@cl4655]

WAIT, when I say I don't know, people think I don't want to talk about it and not because I don't have information about it???

[@jessenceq3250]

@@cl4655 Yep, sometimes! It's also not very engaging and for some it can lead to a hault in the conversation. Sometimes, it also comes across as lacking reassurance if someone is wanting info to comfort their anxiety. Example: my bf answered "idk" when I asked if his mom would be offended if I didn't choose her to host me while I visited. It was a very stressful and uncertain time and the lack of info for someone who literally knows her was so disconcerting. I got over it soon after but still

[@MichaelHill-sg8ks]

This is very true. I'm an INTP but I've lived with my dad, an ISFP, my whole life, and I can safely say that he's one of the smartest people I've ever known. For a while, he was mistyped as an INFP because of it. He loves to discuss theology, it's his primary hobby, but he really gets bored when dealing with some concepts. He loves theology because he uses his knowledge of it to know how to act and think about the world. He doesn't dive into abstract subjects just for the sake of it. He's more interested in how he can apply abstract ideas in the real world. Sometimes I inadvertently stress him out by discussing new and unfamiliar ideas because he can't see any value to the idea in the real world (Se), and it stresses him out because the idea may conflict with his own perception of the world (Ni) and he doesn't know how to feel about ideas that he can't quite grasp quickly (Fi). He doesn't discuss ideas for the sake of it. He always wants to apply them in real life. To be honest, I know that if he was as fit as he used to be he'd be spending most of his time doing physically active things. His Ni perception of reality (which he can find quite difficult to explain) is always based off of his past experience of life. I may theorise without experience of a direct situation but he will confidently say that such theorising doesn't work in practice. I work very differently though, as an INTP. Like when I first learnt how to play the guitar: I already knew how to play the piano so, when I saw the fretboard, I immediately saw the idea in the external world (Ne) and compared it to a single piece of sense data that was already known (Si), and then made a logical conclusion that each string is basically like an individual keyboard (Ti). To my dad, even though he is very smart, and could already play the guitar, it looked almost magical to him; how I could know where every note on the fretboard was without having memorised each individual one.

[@Caleb-zl4wk]

As a fellow INTP, there is nothing more incredible than when the other INTP uses their brain to not think they’re better than other categories of people! More of this please yes thank you!

[@sofia-ut7kh]

I learned guitar the same way xp -INFP

[@jackies1729]

Great rant! As an INFP, I'm an Intuitive.... And my brother is an ISFP. He is incredibly smart. Here's the key difference, which is what i think you are saying Kristin: when i ask him for advice, he finds it almost impossible to give unless he has experience with what I'm asking. He has a hard time "putting himself in someone else's shoes" and with hypothetical situations. Whereas, i notice all the patterns. I make jumps that he is uncomfortable with, until he realizes that I'm right too... In a given situation. Typically, he and i will get to the same destination when thinking things through..... But we take different routes

[@isabellarose6514]

I'm a sensor and I can give advice while putting myself in someone else's shoes.🤷‍♀️

[@Ashley-gu4tb]

@@isabellarose6514 This. I don't need to experience something myself, and it's actually very easy for me to put myself in others' shoes. Source: I'm an isfp.

[@ninaportoc]

@@isabellarose6514 i think what they meant is that sometimes it's difficult for the brother to think about something he has never experienced with the depth he feels comfortable with giving advice. but he probably has some great empathy and compassion skills. but i get what you mean isabella.

[@Ashley-gu4tb]

Extrapolating on this a little. Se needs data in order to delve deeper into topics and make abstractions, BUT one can gather plenty of data without experiencing it personally. Television, books, the internet, other people's stories...these things exist. ^^ Also, my tertiary Ni has me making intuitive leaps all the time based off of my Se perceptions. Drastically at times.

[@5idi]

I'm ISFP too. Putting myself in someone else's shoes has been my preferred way since childhood to process how the world works. People with S and N functions in the middle are harder to judge by because some go all in on the second, some balance, and some actually prefer the third. ISFPs are notorious for putting themselves in someone else's shoes, that's why they're such good actors, some even call us "shapeshifters," but yes, we typically invest in more research to fuel it, and it MUST fall in our Fi range. I mean, I can't give cheerleaders advice other than "If you enjoy it, do it, and if you have problems, research or go to people from the field." I can help them in aspects of physics, anatomy and biology, though...

[@TestaRosssa_]

Oh my gosh, I read, "Seniors Aren't Stupid," and wondered what on earth happened that spurred a rant on this hahaha

[@dearkristin]

Hahahahahaha!

[@bookishforeigner]

I think my most humbling experience recently was realizing that my ESFP mother-in-law was just as productive as my INTJ self, if not more so, but spent almost no time planning/thinking about what had to get done and just did it in random bursts, ultimately leaving her more time to actually do fun things. Mind blown.

[@ellencoleman4604]

I'm an INTJ with a younger ESFP sister. At school we both did maths and physics and I was only a grade higher than her, and she appeared to study a lot less than me! Now we both work I'm amazed at how similar our skill-sets can be. I'd say the biggest difference I still notice is her charm vs. my financial stability. I would say with your example the age difference could also mean your mother-in-law has better developed the inferior functions, seeing as ESFPs and INTJs have the same ones.

[@thomasdawe1837]

Interesting comment

[@loeiscool1606]

God, as an INFP, I sometimes wish that I were a sensor. Living in the moment and just enjoying myself is so difficult for me because I overthink everything and always unconsciously retreat into my own mind, so I've always envied them for their power to do that so naturally.

[@triorantauxodiac]

But intuitive is needed to see something wrong. Just accept what God give you

[@SamanthaEcho]

I’m an ENFP and I feel the same way. Sometimes I feel so disconnected from my Se that I practically dissociate. It’s frustrating. Sensors and Intuitives balance each other out and we need both.

[@goldengirl8355]

As an ENTP married to an ISFJ… I’m so grateful to have him as my husband. Without him I would forget to eat. And every now and then he’ll go on a thought bandwagon with me when it means he can turn it into something tangible for me. 😍

[@thomasdawe1837]

I am an ENFP married to an ISFJ and without her I would forget to breathe.

[@antipunt1]

Kristin, in case others haven't told you yet, you're actually really good at delivering this type of information. You're well spoken, and your dialogue is meaningful and avoids the black/white mentality pitfalls. It was very refreshing, and I thank you for restoring my faith in the community for today.

[@dearkristin]

Aww, I'm glad! Thank you 😁

[@carolinestewart5567]

I’m an INFP with a bunch of intelligent Se and Si dominant family members. My mom, in particular, is an ISFJ who can speak three languages and recount past experiences with stunning accuracy. She also has a great instinct for understanding people that helped me feel understood in my awkward INFP shoes before we even knew about MBTI. Yet, she has been treated like an imbecile by some of my “N” relatives in the past. Sensors are not stupid!

[@loiccooper5375]

Oh, I'm an infp and my mom is also an Isfj so I definitely understand this!

[@wasifrolics7308]

I'm a fellow INFP and my dad is an ISFJ. Everything's accurate!💕

[@choonblaze]

Actually even the NF types are consistently less intelligent and aware than NT types. I would rate ST types higher than NF types in terms of overall intelligence, awareness and wit. SF is the weakest

[@edi0157]

ISTJ here, have always been among the top 3 in my class by grades, did well in school contests, learned all the capitals and flags of (the independent states of, sorry British dependencies and US states but I dont care about you) the world by the time I was 6 or so etc. Nobody thought I am stupid (except myself these days in university but that is a different story...), it isnt like I would have cared that much anyway though as what matters is my view of myself, maybe if it would have been constantly repeated by parents it would have dealt some damage but thankfully that was not the case. By 3 languages do you mean 3 foreign ones so 4 in total or 3 in total? For me it is 3 in total, English, Spanish, Romanian (mother tongue). It is so interesting how many languages there are and the differences between them, sometimes I just start reading about random languages on Wikipedia for hours on end

[@carolinestewart5567]

@@edi0157 I mean three in total. She speaks English (our first language), Spanish, and French. She studied Spanish and French in high school and college, and had a French foreign exchange student stay with her family. Unfortunately, despite my best attempts, I’m not as gifted as she is at languages. It’s super cool that you know three languages as well

[@richardmartin7904]

Yeah I need to throw my two cents in as well. I am basically a walking, talking, INTJ villain stereotype. I used to be worse in my 20s. Now I think there is tremendous value in exploring SE to help inform me on how the world works. I think all INTJs need time seeing the real world data to help refine their intuition we all rely on to make decisions. I also force myself to do FE with my children since this is such a massive blind spot. All data points collected, thus far, suggest better mental health and stronger relationships when I do so. I bet if you did a deep dive with the KZbin community on how they have grown over the years you will find that people will dive into weak areas from time to time and appreciate those areas more. Especially, those in their 30s or older.

[@aml7481]

This. Another INTJ here and it took me until my mid-20s to decide (yes decide) that I should improve my interpersonal skills because it would be a massive pain in the b if I didn't fix or at least compensate for this massive weakness in my wiring. I *needed* that Se data sprinkled with Fi because by definition it involves other people, but I didn't start doing anything about it until my Te kicked in and said "Yo, you're shooting yourself in the foot in the long run if you keep going like this. You need a better system to deal with it." I'll never be as skilled as a Fe dom, but I would rather keep improving at it than go back to how I used to be when I was younger.

[@alchemycarl]

Maybe justice for Si users next? They’re really not the bossy, cleaning-obsessed schedulers they’re made out to be. But (and I really like your videos, so don’t take this the wrong way) it doesn’t seem like a function you necessarily understand super well or have very positive associations with. This video was pro-Se, but Si got short shrift, it seems. edit: for the "but they are bossy," etc. folks, if you assume that a group is defined by certain qualities, you will assume only people with those qualities belong in that group. That's literally how intuitive bias works. You are mistyping insightful, interesting, smart people as intuitives *because* you don't believe a sensor could be like that. Also, every type has its duds. Your crappy "ISTJ" boss is not proof that they all suck. That is all.

[@hannahmayhorn5466]

Well, my ESFJ husband is a little bossy, cleaning obsessed, and mind blowingly detail oriented, lol. There's so much more to Si users than that though, of course. My husband loves a good deep conversation, but I will get lost in the conversation and lose all sense of my surroundings, while he will pay attention to and point out the beautiful sunset, the fireflies, the deer, and stay a lot more grounded in where we are and what we are doing. *Edited to add, one of my favorite things about him when we first started dating was how well we communicated together and his depth and devotion to really good and intentional conversation.

[@mostcreativenickname]

The thing that bothers me the most is that people are quick to forget how highly subjective Si is and that it isn’t automatically concerned with what has been 2000years ago in the past. Also, I’ve just read some comments on Quora, stating that the main difference between INFJs and ISFJs is that INFJs really understand people (deep thinkers) while ISFJs don’t (“superficial”) which feels quite.. offensive? Also “INFJs Ti always questions things but ISFJs Ti doesn’t” excuse me?

[@shar3859]

@@mostcreativenickname yeah MBTI Quora is insanely biased and ignorant

[@amanda_means_beloved3404]

@@mostcreativenickname True, si is subjective. There is the history of the world, and then there is the history of my world. I hope that made sense. Well, as an isfj, I can vaguely see where the 'superficial' label is coming from. When I first read about infjs and their ability to know so many things about people at a glance, I was and still am astounded at such an ability, (even if it's more complicated than that). I pay attention to how people are acting and responding to me, but don't have a clue of their inner struggles or self per se. However, with the family I've spent my whole life with I have a deeper understanding of what might be the issue, what might hurt them, why they are frustrated, who needs space and who needs a hug. I access the many examples of situations to help me. I guess the detailed aspect of si and broader sweep of ni comes in to play: my scope of understanding people is narrower but perhaps more intimately detailed, while an ni perspective is more zoomed out, perhaps broader but more fuzzy. Then again this is speculation. I don't really understand Ni because it's not present in my life. As for the ti thing, questioning is something I've had to learn growing up. My parents are very trustworthy and mature. I haven't known liars, and I learned to trust whatever I read or heard as true. But I grew older and realized that the world is more complicated, not everyone has good intentions, even simple things like click bait is a kind of crude manipulation. My first instinct is to trust what a person is saying for the sake of conversation, but I do have the capacity to hold it at arms length or question if it's a little out there. Again, I don't understand infjs that well, but I'd imagine they can have a similar stance: willing to listen but capable of holding a grain of salt.

[@amanda_means_beloved3404]

I have an istj mum, and she can get 'bossy' but that's because we're her kids and disorder stresses her out, so I take care to be tidy to prevent that (not always, lol). I absolutely love her, she may be a little tougher when she's stressed, but she is full of wisdom and care and she will sit down privately and give us empathy when she sees we need it (and give us a ton of biblical truths and practical tips after she's listened, very si/te in my opinion). She is wonderful, and you hardly see her bossy side unless you're her closest family 😅

[@chia.]

I’m an istj and I unfortunately have experienced being treated as “stupid” by N users that I know in my life. When I share opinions, observations, or solutions to problems, people from the community that I know, tend to dismiss or underestimate what I’m saying. Then if a N user repeats what I just said, they get listened. Obviously I know that not all N users think like that, it’s just toxic and unhealthy personality’s who do that (I now avoid even talking to people like that as it’s just a waste of my time ) but it’s an unfortunately pretty common stereotype for S users to be “stupid”. Btw I grew up in a N user family and I have 1 infp, 2 enfp, an 2 infj friends and they never made me feel stupid lol.. it’s just those toxic mbti community people that we all know.🤷🏻‍♀️

[@kyurei4478]

That's just immature N users who can't understand S values and who are frustrated themselves because they're misunderstood outside. They're probably partially jealous in actuality.

[@choonblaze]

No one "makes" you feel stupid. It's your own perception. If it happens way too often though, you need to face the truth :)) ISTJ is the typical dull, rule follower with no imagination, inferior Ne. Te is also a very annoying function which is automatically inferior/absent Fi and Fe. Te users are often mocked by people because of how ignorant they are.

[@saladass2275]

I really admire ISTJs. They're amazing. When I get into conversations about what-if scenarios, sometimes I see discomfort on her face. Still, she is able to attach it to something she knows about and makes great arguments. She can give solid evidences that make her ideas seem very plausible and not merely an idea. She is also incredibly smart, top student in school and university, got a full scholarship. She is not a rule-follower as stereotype suggests and disobeys instructions from superiors at work if it doesn't make sense. She has changed up a lot of things in her workplace, getting rid of old inefficient systems and introducing more effective ones. She can be bossy but often times I find that listening to her is the best way to get things done. She has an excellent fashion sense. Her Fi makes her balance work and fun really well, while I am heavily leaned towards fun and suffer heavy workload later. I envy that. She knows that it is my weakness and helps me organise my work. She does a lot of research and knows a lot. Everything she says, I know there is hard work and effort behind it. Some people are all talk and may look down on her when she doesn't take part in abstract conversations. But as time goes on, they fall behind while she gets way ahead of them, living the best life because she puts things into action instead of talking about them.

[@chia.]

@@saladass2275 hey! first off, thank you so much for your comment. It was as if you were describing myself as well 😂 it was really accurate lol you’re clearly really good at observing, understanding people and looking at things from a different perspective. I wanted to add a personal observation I made about why I think us istj find, like you said, discomfort when people bring out this ‘what if’ conversations. I personally view those kind of conversations, in which you’re sharing deep thoughts, theories and abstract concepts, as intimate conservations. I love having those kind of conversations with very close friends who are my comfort zone. ( especially my infj and entp friends) Talking about those things are the equivalent as sharing my emotions and feelings ahah and it’s not something I feel comfortable doing with random people. We tend to be more selective with who we have these conversations with. If you’re patient and loyal enough (and you seem like that kind of person) you will eventually have those conversations with your istj friend. It just takes time! Have a great day😊

[@saladass2275]

@@chia. You're right! I have many ISTJs around me and have noticed that while others may perceive them as boring, they only truly reveal themselves to those who stick with them for long. I wouldn't call them boring at all! I once described getting to know my ISTJ friend over the years as watching a flower bloom. It's a special feeling to witness their individuality which they show only to those who give time and patience to the ISTJ. I'm being adopted by ISTJs left and right 😂

[@royxriza4ever]

ISFJ with ISTJ buddy here, we Si-doms also enjoy doing things but tend to choose repeating a tried and true activity vs. trying something new. Since we are both introverts that tends to be things like: Long drives in the mountains, listening to our favorite music, talking about our shared childhoods (we can tell the same story many times and enjoy telling it to others to make them laugh), sitting around a campfire and roasting marshmellows or drinking, eating out, and watching a beloved movie for the 7th time for one of us, first time for the other (it's like a "welcome to my favorite Si experience, friend" kind of thing). We also like to do Ne things in a "safe way" bwahaha especially for him (the ISTJ), trying new things is more difficult so he likes having me there to reassure. It's really small stuff, like how I got him to try sushi for the first time. My sister is an ISFP, I'd say there are similarities between the two S functions but she craves more novel and physical experiences, while I crave repeated ones.

[@summertime9332]

The deep philosophical and creative ideators like the intuitives are not the only kind of intelligent people. There are ESTPs who are bold action oriented thinkers who know how to realize their ideas, there are gregarious ESFJs who know exactly how to deal with people, steadfast ISTJs who are careful in putting the important details into the right place, and SO MANY MORE EXAMPLES. The beauty of intelligence is that there are so many different forms of it, and each of them have their own important roles.

[@Merovechmusic]

The thing I've noticed about sensors (especially lead sensors) is not that they don't see the patterns, but rather that they won't commit to a pattern until the facts are established (and lots of them), sometimes to a fault. With me being an INFJ jumper (Ni/Ti first), I have the opposite problem. I'll run on "maybe" or "probably" and commit to a pattern based on impressions I get without gathering a large volume of Se data, sometimes to a fault. The key to using your lead function is in refining your inferior function.

[@ceilinh6004]

Intelligence is a spectrum. Preference for Sensing/Intuition is a spectrum. They are not the same spectrum.

[@ENFP7w8capranica]

Thank you so much for this, Kristin! Literally the smartest person I know is an ESFJ. People tend to stereotype ESFJs as being shallow and ‘not much up there’ but it’s SOOO WRONG!!! Me and my ESFJ friend are super close and we have tons of abstract and deep conversations. Maybe I just bring it out of her, idk. XD -Enfp

[@pecoguy]

When people use their weakest cognitive function to the fullest, it's always for very deep conversations needing their whole intelligence to figure things out. Isn't judging someone intelligent, about seeing the kind of intelligence you value the more, are even better : see someone using his whole 8 cognitives fonction stacks well and show what your most-valued type of intelligence could be without any weakness ? In reality "Your most-valued type of intelligence, without weakness", is kinda just use your full brain instead of just that intelligence type and a few extra like an ordinary morron.

[@colemanalbright7134]

You probably bring it out of her. Dom-Fe orients itself to the person they’re speaking with. Your friend is mirroring you. I imagine the fun for them comes more out of having a successful social interaction, not exploring the ideas themselves.

[@thomasdawe1837]

Obviously type does not indicate intelligence. For an Fi user, the social command an intelligence of a genetically lucky ESFJ is downright scary.

[@monito3575]

My father is an ESFP too and he is one of the smartest people I know. I love when we can laugh together at my awkward stupidity sometimes

[@bodine219]

Ugh "sensors are stupid" is as annoying as "INFPs are depressed". I think your sensor-data as you called it is probably a lot of why this is my favorite MBTI channel.

[@jackies1729]

Yes!!!! And cry babies!!!! INFPs are neither! It's so annoying. Kristin depicts INFPs very well! She gets us

[@bodine219]

@@jackies1729 YES! She and Love Who are the only ones who seem to get us.

[@larsswig912]

to be fair, almost every INFP I've met has depression. I can understand why they would, since they are usually so misunderstood being a rare type, especially in men (all INFPs i met were men, ironically).

[@bodine219]

@@larsswig912 that's interesting actually. I'm a writer and so are most of my friends so there are a LOT of INFPs (and INFJs) in that group. As far as I know, none of them are depressed. It's mostly women, but I wonder if the difference is having a creative outlet. I'm generally a pretty happy/optimistic person, but I can't imagine life without one. It would be infinitely harder.

[@thomasdawe1837]

I think I've spent too much time on internet forums where unhealthy INFPs gather, cause damn I am drawn to the insane mental health self diagnosis stereotype. Know several irl and they are all perfectly socially capable.

[@sashimie9282]

YES KRISTIN SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK!!! Seriously though, we're all complex human beings; humanity and human behaviour is so much more than being "stupid" or "smart", "close-minded" or "open-minded", etc. While the creation of different personality types and personality-typing systems were made to help understand others, your personality type is not a crystal-clear reflection of who you are as a person. The thrill in discovering the many unique traits that mould a person into what they are would be lost if said person's entire life could be explained by a single personality-typing system. With that being said, let's all take this as a reminder that stereotyping ≠ understanding. - an ISFJ who admires all personality types

[@ethanpintar5454]

Also, if we extend this idea to its logical conclusion, saying that sensors are not capable of perceiving abstract ideas would imply by consequence that intuitives are not capable of perceiving physical objects. Which is, you know, an absolutely insane thing to believe.

[@restlessmosaic]

"I think, therefore I don't know if I have corporeal form." - Rene Descartes-Myers-Briggs

[@samwilcox10]

These intuitive types who are saying sensors are dumb need to be sat down with a sensor dominant mechanic or tradesman at their place of work and see how "dumb" they are. Sincerely, An ENFP who just wants to be able to fix the shit that breaks on them.

[@idrk1507]

Something in me tells me that they’re projecting their own insecurities, and are actually dumb themselves (or at least, view themselves as lesser) It’s weird, seeing how they try to argue so strongly that sensors are dumb, when that simply isn’t true. There’s a motive behind them 100%. What you say and how you say it isn’t always a reflection of you. But for these kinds of people in these kind of circumstances, it really seems like it

[@choonblaze]

What does mechanical skill or trade has anything to do with intelligence? That's just muscle memory.

[@choonblaze]

@@idrk1507 why get triggered though? Seems to me sensors are really on the edge about their lack of abstract brainpower and stuck on shallow day to day thinking. The classic "If I don't see it with my eyes, I don't believe it" types who cannot be taught new information.

[@samwilcox10]

@@choonblaze absolutely not just muscle memory it's understanding how real sensory things work and interact with other things.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Great job addressing the misconceptions in the MBTI community, Kristin! A much-needed video in the type space. 🙂

[@dearkristin]

Thanks, Joyce! 😁😁

[@freregregoire2685]

As intuitive (INTP), I'd say that the comments of the form "they can't be that type because they do this" are highly suspicious, and probably wrong. And the point about the age is good: the kind of highly stereotypical behaviour might be visible in children and teenagers who are still struggling even with their tertiary functions, but becomes more blurred with age, as we start to be in touch with our whole function stack and have maybe learned to compensate the weaker sides...

[@dudeinadoughboy4327]

This is why I stopped following MBTI on reddit. It was a bunch of people, usually younger ones, trying to force themselves and others into little stereotypical boxes. Granted, this was a few years ago so maybe it's changed, but that was the overall vibe I got when I was using it. And r/INTP started turning into little more than a big circle jerk to appear more "intelligent" than the last poster :/

[@MoskusMoskiferus1611]

@@dudeinadoughboy4327. And Quora

[@michaelhighlights1614]

@@Gjakdjruknownhpjs haha

[@choonblaze]

As an ENTP, about 99% of what is said are wrong. People simply don't know shit about MBTI and learn it from youtubers. I suggest you go learn the origins of cognitive functions theory, read Carl Jung's red book, learn about socionics etc. And learn what your type really is from idrlabs cognitive function strength test. Because tertiary function is not visible or even active in children or teenagers AT ALL.

[@7freelemons]

Thank you for sharing, Kristin! You helped me make sense of patterns I've experienced with my S friends. I've always been kinda baffled as to why sometimes I can have these super deep conversations with them, and other times they're just like, "Squirrel!" and not interested at all in engaging in meaningful (to me) conversation. The more I learn about MBTI functions, the more I'm understanding the nuance (ha!) and I that makes me really happy. Thank you so much for what you do and for being real and sharing your heart with us. If it helps at all to know, it made me really happy you were a bit fired up here; for some reason in my mind it helps back up your message. In any case, I so appreciate your videos. I've been learning a lot (and get a good and much needed laugh -- you're hilarious! And honestly, I've been enjoying being roasted. Seeing your "making of" notes has helped with my overall enjoyment in portrayals of my type) and my friends and I have used your videos to be able to discuss our preferences and communicate how we can best support and love each other well. God bless you! Katrina (INFJ)

[@SecondFloor2311]

Great topic! My mom is an ESFP (and I’m an INFJ….yeah) and yeah we sometimes joke about mbti stereotypes but generally I’ve been trying to make her feel less bothered about ‘being an ESFP’ cause of the behaviors and dumbness associated with them (there are some actresses from back in the day who are believed to be ‘typical ESFPs’ and had that stereotypical image, that’s where she got it from). That’s why she really couldn’t/wouldn’t see herself in it at first. I still have to get the hang of all the functions but we’re gonna get there, eventually. And the bits that I know about sensing, in this case, I try to convey to her as to show what it truly means and it’s not just ‘partaaaaayyy!’ or ‘ooh what’s that?!’ xD

[@nickolaszissimos1189]

Pretty difficult being an INFJ isn't it? but if anyone could help someone feel more comfortable about something, it would be our type.

[@LilacSnowBun]

Ni dom here. I seriously envy Se dom energy. (Or anyone with energy, haha.)

[@BrianFreytag]

@@LilacSnowBun same. But then I remember they have to hang out with people to recharge, and no longer envy them lol

[@LilacSnowBun]

@@BrianFreytag LOL at least They enjoy it

[@BrianFreytag]

@@LilacSnowBun I don't get it lol

[@MrRicardolink]

This was quite nice to hear. I am an intuitive but I have great admiration for many sensors. Currently i am struggling to help a person I love a lot. In order to understand her MBTI since she is struggling to type herself. She loves this channel and I am sure hearing about Inferior Se will help her.

[@ordinarylittlebastard3248]

Thanks for that. Being an ISFP in an intuitive family and group of friends, I see how people might think I'm stupid. But, this is not about being a sensor. It never was. MBTI isn't the reason as to why people know or don't know things. It is a question of wanting to go deeper, not incapability. And acessing data before analysing the possibilities works for us just as well as what you do for you intuitives. It is a question of preference, not incapability. So, if you see someone going deep into a convo, do not assume they are intuitives, because sensors are dumb or incapable of doing that. We all have both intuitive and sensorial functions, and there is no better way of using intuition or senses. You just have to find what it works for you.

[@tchristian04]

"Sensors...Ew." -Plato "Come on man, they're not so bad." -Aristotle

[@BiblicallyHandle]

If anything, as an Ni Dom, I feel stupid around sensors….

[@wisteria1739]

Yes because it's our weak function. As much as I don't like to accept it,I know I feel that way too

[@tipu._.9245]

Can confirm

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

This has been a personal mission of mine on reddit- the sensor misconceptions are BANANAS

[@evangelinalbarosa]

Couldn't agree more. People have a very narrow view of what it means to be intelligent, and it's made even more narrow by this "sensors are stupid" mentality. My best friend is an ISFJ and honestly she's the smartest person I've ever met. She's great at reading people, often pointing out different sides to an argument that I couldn't see at first, and has a huge ammount of knowledge stored in her brain about topics she likes or finds interesting, be that topic a kids show or neurology. I also have a friend that's an ESFP and, much like you said, when he has data stored about a certain situation, he's the first one to act on it. He always knows what to do when I don't. Great video as always! :) (I'm an ISTJ, by the way)

[@ellie7701]

Hooray for function development! Se is absolutely a vibe.

[@nicoleheymannweltgestalter]

I'm an intuitive (Infp), and I agree. I think sensing is a strength that's underrated among some academics (i went to seminary) but the truth is, the abstract ideas will do no good unless they are translated into the real world. Likewise, when we do "real" stuff, it inspires us to come up with new ideas. Both are needed or it becomes hollow, either hollow talk or hollow walk. Sometimes I envy extroverted sensors, because they can just go and do lots of things without exhausting themselves or overthinking everything. That's something I have to learn as a second language, but it makes life all the richer :) hope we all learn to appreciate each other's strengths and to apply them in mature balance

[@randomperson1658]

I'm an INTJ and to be honest I never think sensors are stupid, they just have a different way of thinking. The ones that call sensors stupid are stupid themselves

[@boggremlin892]

INTJ here and my best friend is an ESTP. I am, frankly, constantly in awe of how aware he is of how physical reality fits together and how easily and readily he connects with people. I'm honestly often rather jealous of him. Sincerely, someone who likes 'deep dives' so much I regularly forget the world exists, resulting in me walking into walls. I like my brand of abstract 'intelligence', but there's no way I could survive without someone else's sensory intelligence.

[@littlefiddlechick1513]

INFP here. I have a very good friend who is a manager and he is an ESTJ and he does a wonderful job!

[@draspotnuk]

INTJ here I have plenty of sensors in my family. I’m the only intuitive in the family of 6. This is just me venting, but my Se siblings have a tendency to not remain on point with conversations. It can be like Ne’s but instead they focus on sensory things like my tone of voice or how “you said that funny” and they start cracking jokes on the other said Se thing. They can wander in conversations too and you gotta bring them back to point. With the Si’s they just pretend like they’re listening and when they do try it takes a looot of energy because they want details details details. For instance they can talk about organizing their sock drawer for 10 minutes and they go on talking about the colors of socks the positions fabrics which drawer, color coded to what days. To me It feels like a big waste of time getting into that kind of details and it’s besides the point. You organized your sock drawer okay I get it… then what happened. I feel like I have to push Si’s onto the next point all the time. If not I zone out. It’s not a matter of intelligence. A lot of the time it’s about staying on point.

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

This is a funny and very accurate rant. As an Se dom… I’m guilty 😂

[@yellaperida7696]

That’s funny! I’m investigating if I’m ESFP atm and I’ve been mistyped as INTJ for long! On DCNH, I am Dominant, and ESFP-D aligned from Jung Analytical Psychology = INTJ subconscious of ESFP! I tend to be the one to put the conversation back on track when ppl are veering off.

[@TheNitr01]

I feel like sensors have very different skillsets to intuitives which doesn't make them any less smarter than them, they're just capable of different things. For example, I'm an INTJ and I see ISTJs as practical-minded INTJs. They're far more capable at handling things hands-on and I find that very admirable.

[@user-mc5vy2vk5n]

Same here, as INTJ I respect and admire the ISTPs, ISTJs and ISFJs, they seem more practical than us, just getting their sheet done and not overthinking.

[@gustavoguzman635]

ESTJ here (yay! everyone's least favorite type!). I've got a PhD in Engineering and direct a team of about 20 scientist at an AI startup. I've done well precisely due to the ability of balance cool abstract ideas and possibilities ( that third slot Ne) with their factual and effective real life implementation (Te-Si). Definitely lack the depth of the Ti doms or the vision of the Ni doms, yet we can all play as equals intellectually, just balancing different strengths. And they all still work for the Te dom ;)

[@gracemaple1060]

All the ESTJs I know are super competent. I'm an INTP and I actually think I work really well with them, as long as they don't see me as threatening to their position haha. I think sometimes they misunderstand my mild combativeness as trying to undermine their authority or something. But the glorious Ti and Te synergy is worth it.

[@hectorpikipiki]

So boring... :( -INFJ

[@gustavoguzman635]

@@gracemaple1060 Agreed! I have yet to meet an INTP with whom I don't have an effective working relationship.

[@idrk1507]

I know this is somewhat unrelated to your comment- which talks about intelligence and personal strengths- though I’d appreciate your honest answer Do you think positively of an ISTP that is prone to procrastination, yet still gets high grades/the highest grades?

[@gustavoguzman635]

@@idrk1507 I'd say ISTPs are extremely reliable in my book. Their no-nonsense attitude about problem solving is extremely refreshing. On the point of procrastination, as a Te dom I do not care how you get results as long as you do indeed get to the results in time

[@amidreaming333]

I really hate people mistyping as intuitive, because they don't want to relate to those stereotypes of somehow being less intelligent. They are overlooking their natural strengths and especially within this abstract world of personality typology, a sensor's perspective is so valuable and much needed. I love your channel and it's sad how sensor perspectives on mbti are so rare. Of course if you hear an ESFP decribed by an INTJ or and INTP it's going to be inaccurate and they are going to focus more on the negatives, because of their own relation to their cognitive functions and that's why some sensors might hear or read those inaccurate, negative descriptions and think well I should be an ituitive type as well.... When there are more sensors to represent the stengths and the depth of their personality type, I think all the mistyping will even out. I find it fascinating how accurate an ESFP's concepts can be, because of how much data needs to go into it for them to be confident in it. On the other hand, an INFJ's concepts can sometimes be a bit vague, because they're speaking very theoretically with not alot of examples. This shows how your strength can be your weakness and vice versa. Every type has the opportunity for growth and the most impressive and intelligent people are the ones how figure out how to fuse two sides of a story together.

[@violainetuuu5984]

This is so true. Almost all my friends are sensors, some are academically smarter, some not, but none of them are “stupid”, people just have different fields of specialty

[@hunter7nine]

Kristin - you're the best possible ambassador for ESFPs and have absolutely helped me to get over some sensor bias. You're clearly very smart, funny, creative, and super charismatic. Keep on keepin' on!

[@sofiaroura9652]

I think there's a lot of envy in the community from Intuitives to Sensors. Sensors don't really envy Intuitives imo because they're too busy actually living their lives lol I personally admit to be envious of ESTJs, XSFPs and ISTPs, in regards to the fact that they just LIVE their lives and DO things in the real world. But some intuitives won't admit it so they prefer to diminish sensors by calling them dumb.

[@idrk1507]

Envious of me? I’m flattered, thank you

[@thomasdawe1837]

I often feel slight envy at the ISTP stoicism. I don't have any close ESTJ friends but I have a ton of ESTJ colleagues and partners and they usually bring competence, clear thinking and a down to earth touch that is often much needed.

[@pattiepear3090]

I've always thought the opposite. I'm intuitive and I've always felt like sensors are "smarter" than me because they're handy, good with directions, and good at practical solutions, and I struggle with those things. I've had to learn to value my intuition despite feeling like sensors had the more useful skills.

[@tiana3358]

As an INFP I can relate this, probably because of my inferior Te and my shadow Se.

[@amanda_means_beloved3404]

(Isfj) I am aware that I hardly look at the big picture. I can equate it to my driving experience, being somewhat new to the roads. I drive and keep track of the cars, focus on obstacles, my speed etc. Often I don't understand how all the roads interlink, where I am, or even miss a turn because I was busy with immediate surroundings. This feels like an apt metaphor for high Si not taking the time to zoom out, driving through life diligently but getting lost, ya know? It is not high on my list of priorities, but sometimes I sit down and think about how I don't think deeply enough, waste my time, therefore my life, and never seem to grow. Then I try to be better. Sometimes lol. Preferences definitely seems the right term for the functions👍

[@tomasvetrak]

I'd say that externally, intuitives come off as much more stupid than sensors. Just like Te users externally might come off more "intelligent" than Ti users.

[@kaizokuwan5282]

I'd agree. I think only people inside the MBTI's community think sensors are stupid. But irl it's pretty much the opposite, since we actually live in a sensor society.

[@tomasvetrak]

@@kaizokuwan5282 i am glad it makes sense to u🙏

[@isaa1782]

I think the problem is that often MBTI becomes too "ideological". Some people just identify to much with it and want their type to be "the best". As an INFJ I often see this in posts from fellow INFJs feeling somewhat elite because "we are so seldom and so different", which is just stupid. But it's all just stereotypes. Sensors aren't stupid. INFJs not some super-humans that can read everybody's deepest thoughts in a second. And INTJs, for example, are not some evil geniuses. For me, my abstract thinking often caused me problems actually, especially when it came to maths in school. My brain was constantly drawing connections were there were none.

[@RetirededKat]

I'm INTP and my best friend is ESTP, whenever we have a philosophical discussion it's mostly him making bold assertions, me pointing out ways in which what he said might not be true, him making a slightly modified but still fairly bold assertion, me pointing out more ways he might be wrong, and so on. On the flip side, he gets me out and about, breaks me out of my head and helps me to experience the moment more fully. We compliment each other in a very intriguing way. I love my best friend!

[@justjennaish]

Well said, Krisp!! To contribute to this comment section... - Individual people are not all the same kind of intelligent, nor the same 'level' of intelligent. It's true that some people are definitely predisposed to be 'more intelligent' than other people in certain categories of intelligence (categories linked to personality) - but the way 'intelligence' is nurtured, expressed and experienced depends on several factors, many of these outside of 'type'. There are and have been many, many people (both Sensors and iNtuitives) who have been intelligent enough to stand out and shape human history in various ways over time. At the same time, not everyone is a genius. Being a certain 'type' doesn't guarantee you genius status. - Arguing about whether iNtuitives or sensors are more intelligent is silly, given that ALL of us are BOTH sensors and iNtuitives, and I'm sure all of us rely on intelligence in ourselves that originates from BOTH of those S & N functions. Also, all of us can be intelligent in our own, MUCH needed and valuable ways, no matter what our type. There is 'room in the world' for every type, and more than that - every type is essential to the human ecosystem. - 'Type' is your natural perception. Natural attention to certain cognitive functions may predispose you towards certain kinds of intelligence, but it doesn't guarantee that intelligence. Cognitive functions just tell you *where your attention goes* , not how good you will be at something or what you will CHOOSE to improve or develop in yourself. - If your response to this video is something like: 'if anything, iNtuitives are stupid!'... then perhaps you're missing the point. Just as Sensors are no more 'stupid' than iNtuitives for having a natural preference for 'the concrete', iNtuitive types are no more 'stupid' than sensors for having a natural preference for 'the abstract'. This attitude in general is problematic no matter which 'type' of person you're putting down. - 'Personality type' is, itself, an abstract system of concepts and *language* that helps us understand INDIVIDUALS (including ourselves). It's based on observable reality, sure, but someone's type is not *WHO* they are in all of their individual complexity. 'ESFP', 'INFJ', etc is not YOU. It's just an idea that helps you to describe and understand part of 'you'. - This is relevant to this video and almost everything else when we are describing 'type': *Cognitive functions are not behaviours* . Certain cognitive functions may manifest in behaviours in generally predictable ways, but particular behaviours are not always evidence of one particular cognitive function over another. In light of this: someone who demonstrates 'abstract intelligence' is not, by necessity, an iNtuitive, and someone who demonstrates 'practical intelligence' is not, by necessity, a Sensor. 'Thanks for reading my essay', I say as an ENFP.

[@restlessmosaic]

A real-world example of what are you saying: Kristin famously hates subtext, as her preferences don't attune her to subtext. I eschew subtext from an INTP perspective, because all subtext increases inaccuracy and my Ti can't stand for that. I craft my sentences carefully; they're not pinatas filled with subtext. Now, I'm more likely to euphemize than she is, particularly if speaking on a big, broad topic. But our expressions of personality unite on no subtext, even while coming from nearly opposite stacks.

[@pecoguy]

"-Between people using more Y or more X, who is the smartest ? -The one using best both"

[@kamitozaki5147]

My brother is an ISTJ and he is the smartest person that i know, he is very curious about many subjects and studies them in depth. Thinking that sensors are stupid only makes you a closed-minded person, you judge them, but forget that you do the same, we must remember that each person is different, with their strengths and weaknesses.

[@rmeuk]

I am loving your accurate and specific sketches! You're killing it with the observable data!

[@ezcognition8472]

Kristen i'm just really glad I found your channel back a couple years or so where I found your different personalities at a party skit that blew your channel up. You articulate things so beautifully and prove to me that the ideal (Ni dom hehe) definitely exists in terms of people opening their perspective to all walks of psychology (abstract and sensory should be appreciated). I have much more to learn about the sensory world as my intuition tries desperately to understand the ideal. So this is motivating, seeing a sensor like you to make sense of abstractions/patterns through sensing first.

[@averagejoe2232]

What’s funny about this is that while most sciences draw their roots back to Aristotle, a very intuitive guy (I presume) who asked lots of good questions and came up with all sorts of philosophical answers to such questions, it was Francis Bacon’s scientific method, which is all about coming to conclusions exclusively from observable data, that powered the Scientific Revolution .

[@dazaiosamu3660]

As an INTJ type I also had the stereotype that sensors are kinda dumb. But meeting more sensors and actually befriending them, they really aren't all black and grey. And your channel is one of most accurate portrayal of mbti!

[@sunchips18]

I love the drunk, “hold my beer,” “listen hear you little turd” energy of the beginning of the video. Such a vibe. XD (Also, 5:39-6:00 is a big vibe, too.) Yeah, I’ve personally had that kind of sensor bias before, (particularly with STs, and _especially_ STJs. 😂). But I’ve found that if you give people a chance, they’ll surprise you in many ways. N/S T/F, while valuable distinctions, can be very arbitrary if you make them that way.

[@FlamingCockatiel]

I watched an ISTJ video and someone in the comments (INFP, if I remember correctly) said that they were shallow and stupid. That was a shallow and stupid way to talk about another type.

[@margaretdrumm6658]

I used to have that bias, and I'm super glad that when I went to college I made friends first and learned their types afterwards. Turns out two of my best friends were an ISTJ and an ESTJ. No, they aren't stupid, and they can think abstractly well enough to be at the top of the philosophy class over a bunch of intuitives.

[@xyznightwing]

This is so true. I've always commented on how smart my isfj sister is. And she can hold her own in a philosophical debate and picks up new skills so fast, but at the end of the day, she would much prefer to watch her favorite K-dramas

[@restlessmosaic]

Your note about age development is SO important. Loads of people in this community keep comparing 30-year-olds and 20-year-olds who say they're the same type and find the 30-year-old suspicious for better use of lower functions. After 10 years of practicing life, they SHOULD have better use of SOMETHING, right? Ay yi yi.

[@justjennaish]

This is a great point but I'm more thrilled by your use of 'Ay yi yi', which is one of my personal favourite exclamations.

[@restlessmosaic]

@@justjennaish And to think I almost omitted it...

[@Sean-Ax]

@@restlessmosaic Is that how you're supposed to spell that?? I use that all the time, but never online because I can't figure out how to spell it.

[@restlessmosaic]

@@Sean-Ax It's certainly one way.

[@huntedsnark7507]

And in the type profession/discipline, like 80% are over 50! I'm sure some of the youthful enthusiasts on the trashier type sites would 'type' Dario Nardi as an ENFJ (he's an INTJ) just because he's so much about personal growth, and he does so much yoga. But this is how INTJs can mature, when they manage to achieve balance. As a rapidly ... maturing ...person, I can guarantee that type development is real and it happens, ready or not.

[@silela5458]

As an ESTP, thank you for this video. Nice to see a Se dom in the community presenting us so gracefully

[@grababundoberni]

There is a video in Spanish by Denial Typea where he interviews 2 ESTP (yes, every personality gets video) and they said that to their fellow ESTP they recommend to recognize the boundaries (theirs and of others) so not to be unfairly tagged and to do their favorite sensing activity (from makeup, jogging, to boxing) when angry or low. I as INFJ am glad that you are there when I need a UNO reverse...as an ESTP told me once, there are two methodologies (hers and mine) and both are worth the try as she notices my wisdom, she only wants to see me actually putting myself out there and being more of a doer.

[@chingchingbling2145]

As an INTJ and I feel like I can relate wayyy better with ESFPs now that I'm in my 30s. There is now a convergence between a developed Ni function in them, and a developed Se function in me.

[@RelyableLerilay]

YEAH SENSORS UNITE!.. Wait, I'm not a sensor...

[@alleycat1387]

You go girl! As an ISFJ and a sensor, I get so sick of people assuming I'm dumb or a certain way just because I'm not an intuitive. MBTI and cognitive functions has been an amazing tool for me to understanding people and myself more, but I think it's also established a superior complex or hierarchy to make some individuals feel like they are superior to other personality types. Sensors can see things intuitive people can't and intuitive people can see things that we can't. Sometimes there are even people who develop both their sensing and intuitive abilities that you don't even know what they are or how to peg them like you lol. You are quite classy and I love your videos! Keep it up!

[@SamanthaEcho]

I appreciate this video so much! As an ENFP with about an 80% preference for intuition I have been looking for resources to understand sensors better and I think that most descriptions online do a terrible job of explaining it: I kept looking at the “sensors are literal-minded” summaries and thinking there must be another way of framing it. I think you do a great job explaining the nuances of a sensing preference. Also, I think a lot of the sensor-shaming in the MBTI community comes from envy/jealousy. I’m an ENFP singer and actress. Can you imagine how hard it is being in the performing arts when Se is your demon function? It’s very frustrating! Anyway I love the detail and humor in your videos and your expressive acting range. (And the “through the eyes of an ENFP” video made me feel very seen!) Thanks for your great work!

[@MazorKuziaki]

I love Zelda & Chill, hearing it in the background makes this feel so comfy. I would love to see you talk about other MBTI stereotypes and even stigmas.

[@gracemaple1060]

This makes me wonder if my ~immediately look something up~ response when I don't know something is actually my tertiary Si. It's like, if I can't come up with anything good with my vague Ne brainstorming, I need to go find concrete specifics. Also, my isfj mother sends about a billion links when you ask her to help with something she doesn't know about, and my enfp little sister needs to be prompted to look anything up when she gets stumped.

[@monito3575]

Are you INFP or INTP? I do the same. I am am INFP and when I read about something and someone starts talking about that topic I can't articulate myself well or I suddenly have so many holes in my memory about that topic... Makes me feel stupid every single time...

[@maria_ivigeorgiou2519]

Thank you Kristin ❤

[@daydreamer_asmr]

The Es -> Ni vs Ni -> to ES explanation makes sense and helps me understand the dynamic better - as an INFJ newly connecting with an ESFP this is extra interesting/helpful....great insight!

[@trinaq]

I highly concur! Sensors are far from dumb, they're just more grounded and pay more attention to detail than inuitives, who get their brainwaves from within. Sensors are more in tune to their environments.

[@choonblaze]

I don't know about that, I find the sensors pretty dumb most of the time, actually only the SF types. xSTP types are usually very street smart and also have many technical skills and abilities

[@Caleb-zl4wk]

@@choonblaze ayo-

[@averagecatlover4635]

@@choonblaze nahh not you again 💀

[@hermianix8919]

@@choonblaze you seem so absorb about the fact you’re an istp it’s annoying asf

[@choonblaze]

@@hermianix8919 cry about it

[@ammachar]

Honestly I’m an INFP and I feel like it’s the reverse. I feel dumb to do simple stuff. And sensors are actually in the real world doing stuff while I’m in my imaginary world, imagining possibilities, overthinking, trying to anticipate things that won’t even happen. Ne can be useful and it often proved itself to be, but it also often feel like a waste of time and thoughts. My mom is ISFJ and I’m jealous of her productivity, like she just does stuff. And I’m over there, always thinking about the future, disregarding the present and its potential. I sometimes even miss opportunities in the present because I think about the future much more. I just wish I was more in the real world and more productive (could also be my inf Te talking there :P)

[@safi135]

coming from an infp, sensors are truly the smartest people i know, majority sensors have their sh* together so well. especially istps. theyre really winning in life

[@yourbootyholeisyourbeautyhole]

omg another infp who simps for istps they're just so cool 🫣

[@pecoguy]

I think it's because sensors "Learn from their mistakes" much better than N types because they do mistakes. Since sensors are always the first to do stuffs, they look dumb, until they "get it" but won't brag about it to everyone like N types. N types share all their ideas like knowledge is a shared treasure. N types want to share ANY ideas, where smart sensors would just keep to themselves unless it's good ideas useful here and now. Sensors are underestimated because they won't share their wisdom juste because they have greats ideas, but because it's appropriate and useful here and know. For N type, they don't care if an idea is useful now or in 20 years or in a other univers, as long it's a good idea. Sensors are self-censoring their ideas if "it make sens for me, but not for other people because they have a different life experience". People confuse people having bad intuition, and having low intuition. Bad intuition is saying BS, while having low intuition is talking true only after an extensive work. N types people can have crazy high and bad intuition, and became real degenerates trying to rebel against the world true ennemy : cats. Old sensors can have low but really good intuition, and be "simple but realistic people". N types looks smart until they try, IF they try. N types are really hit or miss. Sensors keeps doing wrong for ever, while N types keeps thinking wrong for ever. No one notice a N type is wrong, until he became a leader, and then everything is sensors fault for not doing what they were supposed to do. As an autistic person and INTP i keep thinking "it's always people fault for being illogical" when i get throw back into loneliness land. Until i dare to remember it's my differents values and cognitives functions priority that's making any talk fail. I can only fail in society, as long i keep acting like : truth > Ne - Ti > Te-Si > Fe and others Fi. It's like society priority list is the exact opposite of my priority list. Can't be myself at all, i need to be open to everyone, since no one would be open to me, unless i open first. The only way to hapiness, is to stop fighting the unfairness and just swallow it. Once people like me, it would finally my time, to be able to afford to try to be myself without being punished. "This is what i am, this is what i do, and this is why i do it. Stop trying to guess, and just accept who i am are not. I will try not walking on your toes". Having to Fe, and even worst Fi, before trying to have any real talk about anything is such a chore as an INTP to get social connexion.

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

It could also simply be that the typical 'shit together' things are he type of things sensors are more important to sensors than intuitives?

[@person.mp4222]

You need to make more videos like this, I love your raw visceral reaction to things!

[@CineShinya]

This matter has been bothering me for a while, as I find it absurd. And I won't lie, in the beginning of my MBTI journey, I kinda believed this is the other way around, as intuitives don't always get practical or base their ideas in evidence and in the end most of them don't enact their great plans. But then I saw this opposite direction stereotype. And it doesn't define me at all. Personally, I am extremely analytical and philosophical, in a nearly unhealthy extent. Even if I have my own mind, I always seek to listen the opinion on a matter of people that I know have a different perspective as well. Like my alter ego in types ENTP brother and my ENTJ girlfriend, since we don't share any cognitive functions. And yes, I am a sensor. ISFJ to be precise. So, through these conversations and the things I see in general, I have come to the conclusion that this stereotype comes partly from the American community. American mentality as you can see in every aspect of their culture, tends to idealize ambition and people with "vision", either this is realistic or not. Being an extroverted intuitive seems like the ideal combo for success and charisma to them, which doesn't apply in other cultures. And also the stereotypes themselves like INTP is the genius scientist and INTJ the evil mastermind, add to that assumption. Intelligence has not just one side though. Someone may be amazing in maths, but lack of understanding how people work. Or someone may be very analytical but unable to gather their thoughts and enact any of them. Or someone might be very quick to solve problems in a brilliant way but not form an opinion on their own. Someone can read people right away but get lost in their own house. Nobody is just perfect in every aspect of their lives. So instead of labelling people, I think we should appreciate the fact we can all work together for the greater good. Because having abstract ideas and vision is useful only when you get to work with a practical mind to make things actually work, or embrace this side of yourself. Intuitives and Sensors better be allies than rivals that belittle eachother. (If you managed to read all that, congratulations, you found the proof sensors also can overanalyze forever. And this was the shortest version possible of my comment.)

[@amanda_means_beloved3404]

Isfj here. I totally agree :) It's funny because I just commented your last point in simpler terms, basically that the diversity of people's strengths is beautiful and that humanity benefits when we work together. I also relate to the giant paragraphs. I'm either silent or all in lol

[@optimist-ri1439]

Just want to say thank you and amen!!

[@CineShinya]

@@amanda_means_beloved3404 Ahaha, fellow ISFJs think in similar way on the matter of diversity in collaboration works for the greater good. 😄 I am also grateful you commented that in simpler terms because there are more chances for your comment to be read instead of my ridiculously big one, and I think this message must be "heard". 🌸 (Sorry for the late reply, youtube notifications are a mess!)

[@CineShinya]

@@optimist-ri1439 🌸🏵️🌹🌺🌻🌼🌷 I return the gratitude, as your kind response to my comment made my night!

[@amanda_means_beloved3404]

I really like the functions described as being preferences. It makes sense to me. About the choice between an abstract conversation and a 'sensory' other option, an Si second option would probably be like 'I know that I love x activity, I'm going'. From what you've said, an Se user seeks thrill for the thrill, and I think an Si user would seek specific things they know is enjoyable. An abstract conversation could draw me in for the similar reasons as you. I have knowledge of that niche, or I want knowledge of it.

[@PeterJohnson-rh5hi]

5:58 When you run into your ex in an elevator.

[@MetaTomato]

Great vid. I also wanna point out that saying that sensors are stupid implies that being "smart" means to think abstractly? There are sensory things that intuitives aren't as good at, like dealing with concrete data, and that's okay too. Abstract thinking is important but sensory types shouldn't be held to a standard of intuition, because one isn't more important or valid than the other.

[@claytonia1586]

Heck yes! ✊️✊️✊️. I'm an intuitive but I often go to my wonderful, intelligent and deep Sensor friends for their thoughts and advice because as a lead Ni I can need that extra input to form a well rounded answer. intuition isn't always reliable. it jumps to conclusions too quickly. I love that sensors can calm me with their data. I think your channel is one of the most informative because of this too. you present information in such an accurate way and make it tangible. you know how to clearly express those Ni patterns. intuitives often struggle so much with this. nobody understands anything I say a lot of the time haha. We probably couldn't go out partying together as I'd be in the corner talking to some weird guy who wants to tell me his life story and you'd be breaking out your best moves on the dance floor! 💃 but there's no reason why intuitives and sensors can't come together in meaty conversation.

[@chironlee1042]

Thanks for this video ♥️

[@lilsneepsnorp4951]

As a ISTP, INTJ is what everyone things I am. I’m smart and understand things so well. I make my own clothes and I make paintings, I do fix things. But I’m not a mechanic, I’m a high school student who gets mediocre grades, but my skills are absolutely absurd to my peers. I’m just not what people think ISTP folks are. It’s exhausting.

[@lilleysuter7215]

I love this, even though I am an Intuitive. It really shows that people shouldn’t be put in boxes, especially ones that make them seem unintelligent. I liked the part where she explained that an Se-Ni user gathers information first and then creates patterns based on that data. And Ni-Se users prefer to gather after the patterns are created. Well said, even without a script. ❤️ENFP

[@doctordoc8014]

So glad you`ve decided to address this!

[@samwilcox10]

The baseline problem is everyone wants to be "special". Some of the most artistic and "special" people are sensors. Our world was built by sensors. The variety of type is what makes the world go around. We all need eachother and are all special in our individual ways.

[@ninaportoc]

this was such a wonderful video! as an ENFP i have spent most of my childhood and teen years hating that i couldn't remember details as much and was so messy and lost my belongings and hurt myself because i didn't check my surroundings. sensors DEFINITELY are very intelligent and have greater abilities in things i will probably will never be as great as them lmao (seeing minor mistakes or noticing something is out of order in the real world without really focusing on trying to find a mistake), but i admire you all very much! especially when i'm doing sensory things lmao, i see how valuable Si and Se intel are. i'm a terrible driver lmao. my ISFJ mom is proud of me for trying to do sensory stuff in a righter way and i believe i'm achieving it!

[@kristofpeleman978]

In Dutch, the word “dom” actually means “stupid”, so hearing you repeat the phrase “Se dom” several times in a row is quite the cognitive dissonance for us, dutch-speaking people 😄

[@marekpietron1998]

It's like all the types stepping on a dancefloor. Everybody chose to do so with a different cognitive function but everybody is dancing

[@sweetlavender4706]

thanks kristin, i really liked how you explained the way ni and se work together depending on how "prefered" they are ! could you do a similar explanation for ne and si ? thank you sm !!!!!!

[@radosawbartoszewicz7247]

First of all, I just wanted to thank you for making this video. There was one point that intrigued me. "People with sensing preference of any kind are incapable of abstract thought or depth". Now I would like to focus on depth specifically. I just can't wrap my head around why would it be more associated with intuition rather than sensing(keyword: more, I don't believe intuitives are completely discarding details), because depth requires to go from macro to micro. Similarly, if a person had to dive into a Mariana Trench he can't just know broadly where the location of it is, he must have precise knowledge of its whereabouts in order to reach it. Hope this sparks some thought, God bless you - ISFJ

[@margaretdrumm6658]

Excellent video, Kirstin! I had already discovered this fact for myself, but I definitely believed the lies for way too long. I finally got to know some sensors when I was attending a tiny little liberal arts college, and found myself friends with an ISTJ and an ESTJ who were both at the top of the class. I studied with the two of them a lot, and it was always interesting to see how differently our brains worked, especially when studying philosophy, which is very abstract to begin with . . . When either of them was explaining a concept, they would go through it step by step, very methodically, covering every detail but not really expanding on anything. I, the INFJ, would express it first as a vague amorphous concept and then try to make sense of it largely by reconciling it with the patterns of things I had already learned, and then usually jumping on to apply it to other ideas before I had articulated all the details. I still remember the frown of concentration as one or the other of them listened to me, trying to figure out where the heck I was going with this. :) In short, they collected all the little pieces and assembled it like a puzzle; I grabbed hold of a vague mist and gradually molded it into a fully articulated idea. We both benefited from each other's methods of thinking and I will never underestimate sensors again. Those two were awesome.

[@elypelowski5670]

I agree. I know plenty of very smart and logical ESTPs and ISTPs

[@cookiecat9015]

Thank you for making this video. I think the idea that certain personality types aren't capable of using certain functions and (this making them stupid) is the biggest misconception in the mbti community. As an istj I often feel misunderstood by other people who like mbti, because the majority of them are intuitives. At first I always doubted if I was an istj, because they are considered to be very serious and tedious. But I am happy I eventually learned that your personality type only describes your personal preferences of how you take in information in the world around you. There is still much for me to learn about mbti though, but I believe I know at least more than most people in this community and that makes me happy.

[@huntedsnark7507]

ISTJs can be hilarious, though! And so way sarcastic. I work with a bunch of them. If all else fails, even if we have no interests or experiences in common, ITXX types can always just converse in fluent sarcasm. Also, the existence of *very smart* ISTJs has never been a question for me. I've worked with a bunch of them for decades. (😁INTP)

[@farrex0]

What I have always said, is that function preference =/= function competence. A simple example, just because someone is an Fi Dom, doesn't mean they are good at dealing with their emotions.... The same way, just because someone is a Ti dom it doesn't mean they are good with dealing with logic. It is all about preference not competence. So by the same token, just because someone is an Se Dom, it doesn't mean that they would be great at sports. And somoene that is an Ni dom doesn't mean they would be great at dealing with abstract concepts. You could have Ti doms, that are better at using Fe than Fe doms, they wouldn't be doing it all the time because of preference, but they could be way better. Imagine it like introversion and extroversion. You can have extroverts that are hated by everyone, and introverts that are loved by everyone. What introversion and extroversion says, is what the person prefers, not how good they are at dealing with people. Functions are precisely that, what the person prefers, not what the person is good at. Also, Se is not a dumb function. Yeah, it might seem like it, to intuitives, at first glance. Unhealthy Se might make the person seem like they are extremely superficial people. But that is when unhealthy, and also not everyhtign is like it seems. There is a wisdom to Se. High Se users are collecting experiences and sensory data, which they learn from. Kristin is amazing at what she does, not because her Ni is great, but because her Se is great. Her Se allows her to gather a lot of information about the real world, gather a lot of information about people. And in her studying people and gathering sensory data, is how she is able to know so much about MBTI.

[@pecoguy]

People like you, are the one needing to talk for N types to understand sensors intelligence. Data collections maniac. I am feeling so dumb for never remembering anything. I won't remember what i ate 4 hours ago, but i can remember where and when i got a great idea ! But not remember on what basis that idea was made. Why i am so sure about this ? 10 years ago i was totaly sure about it. Do i trust my X years self about this? Yeah. I was smart enough at that age, about this stuff. I trust that younger-me, for that kind of thing. I remember exactly what i tought and my world view, but not so much what happened to me to get my old toughts and world view. The olds-me are stuffs are not really stored in memory, but my old-me opinions about anything are stored, with "from when to when i hold what ideas as true, and how much true" classification.

[@Carolina-cm6nu]

As an ENFJ with a lot of sensing friends and family members, I came to realize that their tiring of my abstract talking was not necessarily a “sensing” trait; it turns out that I am heavily an Ni user as well as Ne user but most of the people around me mostly used Ne or Si functions; it turned out the misunderstanding came at a difference of INTUITIVE functions with the occasional Si function user. Also I have to say, I KNEW you were a sensor Kristin. The way you put so many different types of “life” into the different types was a key sign of this to me. - An ENFJ who happens to have more of the functions of an INTJ according to cog funct tests

[@emilymiller5045]

I think some people assume sensors are stupid because they're the majority and because they assume that intuitives have something that sensors necessarily lack. Like intuitives are blind to the sensory world because they have ideas to explore in the intuitive world (they don't CARE to see it), whereas sensors are blind to the intuitive world because they CAN'T see it. So choice vs. ability.

[@johnwalker1058]

A video like this is especially refreshing after seeing plenty of online spaces being filled with people acting as though the sensor and extroverted types are less intelligent than their intuitive and introverted counterparts. If only more people saw personality charts and systems as a way to better understand ourselves and each other, instead of an excuse to set up some sort of hierarchy where we put each other down over a perceived sense of superiority to boost our own egos. (Btw, I say this as someone who is heavily introverted and usually gets classified as some sort of IN-- type / mostly INTJ, a couple times as INTP and INFJ).

[@trollloloololooo]

Let them be in their bubble of misery, would suck to be so full of jealousy and hate 😂 and good for you!

[@SimoneEppler]

Dude, wtf, this trope is still out there?. It's tiring. It's annoying. Do not want. We are all able to think logically. We are all able to see patterns.

[@Kronian]

There are tons of tropes in the MTBI community, this channel makes use of them quite often.

[@SimoneEppler]

@@Kronian Well, it's a difference between making funny skits and intentionally using overly exaggerated stereotypes and seriously stating these things as facts, imho.

[@Kronian]

@@SimoneEppler And how would you know that said people are stating these things as facts and not just being internet trolls? Besides, even comedy skits that are blatantly partial/biased for one side enhance this confirmation bias like "omg this channel gets it, I always knew KLMNs are the most toxic type, this is soooo true" with dozens of upvotes. Why isolate a pair of certain types and exclusively make them look bad, instead of doing it to every type for comedy relief, or not doing it at all?

[@SimoneEppler]

@@Kronian it's true that the skits can be taken as a way to feed confirmation biases, on the other hand, in my opinion, the recipients are equally responsable to educate themselves on a topic. And many fun MBTi channels such as Kristins offer educational videos to put everything in its context. You are right, I don't know how many of these people are internet trolls as I don't have the capacity to get to know everyone or read all the comments there are.

[@Human_01]

BE QUIET! THE UNINTELLIGENT SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO OPEN THEIR MOUTHS! YOU ESFP (PERSONALITY TYPE) ARE EVIL, MANIPULATIVE, FILLED WITH HATE, AND ARE ENABLING HELL SPAWN!!! THERE IS NO HEAVEN FOR YOU! YOU KNOW IT AS YOU ARE POSSESSED AND YOU KNOW THAT YOUR SPIRIT IS DAMNED! YOU DESERVE TO BE EMOTIONALLY-DISTURBED FOREVER!!! FRICKEN CANNIBALISTIC, MISCHIEVOUS SNAKE IN HUMAN CLOTHING!